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Title: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on May 21, 2014, 10:26:25 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/may/21/cigarettes-taken-meijer/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/may/21/cigarettes-taken-meijer/)


I am not surprised that someone is stealing from the company they work for.  What does surprise me is the comments!!  People are not disgusted with the thief, they are mad at the one who turned him in!  What the heck!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on May 21, 2014, 04:36:18 PM
Another story where the comments take on a MT like atmosphere,

The ones I saw tried to claim that it was to support buying heroin...   

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on May 22, 2014, 11:27:50 AM
http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/25588298/police-investigating-possible-drowning-in-monroes-plum-creek?utm_content=buffer23cae&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer (http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/25588298/police-investigating-possible-drowning-in-monroes-plum-creek?utm_content=buffer23cae&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on May 23, 2014, 06:04:54 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/may/23/man-found-creek-identified/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/may/23/man-found-creek-identified/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: livewire on May 23, 2014, 08:21:02 AM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/may/23/man-found-creek-identified/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/may/23/man-found-creek-identified/[/url])


These kinds of bazaar stories make me wonder.  Guy goes for a walk to the store, to possibly buy a pack of smokes, or gallon of milk.  Then, whoops!  Ends up face down in a creek, drowned.  The wife said he had medical issues... maybe that was the cause.  But if there were issues THAT severe, would he be walking to the store by himself?  He wasn't that old, and police say there were no signs of foul play.

Very strange, and tragic.  Many unanswered questions.  My heart goes out to his family.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on May 24, 2014, 09:28:53 PM
These kinds of bazaar stories make me wonder.  Guy goes for a walk to the store, to possibly buy a pack of smokes, or gallon of milk.  Then, whoops!  Ends up face down in a creek, drowned.  The wife said he had medical issues... maybe that was the cause.  But if there were issues THAT severe, would he be walking to the store by himself?  He wasn't that old, and police say there were no signs of foul play.

Very strange, and tragic.  Many unanswered questions.  My heart goes out to his family.

+1.  Very bizarre and tragic.  My heart goes out to the family.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on May 24, 2014, 10:17:22 PM
I believe it was the first report of this where it was said the wife went out walking and located him by calling his phone and that she heard it ringing.  I found that odd if he was in the water and drowned unless he threw his cell phone on the bank before he got in.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on May 24, 2014, 10:41:50 PM
Unless he wasn't totally submerged?

Not sure how you get in a creek in the first place.

Again - bizarre - difficult to even speculate on.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on May 25, 2014, 09:51:08 AM
I never did see anything on the news but did hear it on the scanner and youngest daughter actually saw it.  A young gal riding a green moped was hit by a vehicle at the corner of N. Custer and Custer Dr. last Thursday around 10:30am. She was talking while they loaded her for transport.  Anyone know any details on her condition?  If you prefer not to post then please either PM me or email me.  Thanks.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on May 25, 2014, 09:58:34 AM
Both daughters saw what appeared to be a police pursuit closer to downtown about the same time this happened!

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/may/24/shots-fired-suspects-scattered-friday-night-winche/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/may/24/shots-fired-suspects-scattered-friday-night-winche/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on May 25, 2014, 10:02:01 AM
Toledo not safe, especially at night..

You'll never see this in the news.  Only on twitter as someone picks up police scanner and puts info on twitter.

Typical night in toledo

TPD - immediate response weapons call, 100 block page st near vermont ave, female getting threatened by ex-boyfriend with a gun..

TPD - disorder, w laskey rd and jackman rd at the Miracle Mile shopping center, report of 40-50 people getting ready to fight..

TPD - fight, 1415 s bryne rd at the kroger, report of a group of 25 people fighting in the parking lot....

TFD/EMS - person stabbed, 1800 block duncan rd near matlack ave, person stabbed, with life squad 3.....

TPD/TFD/EMS - code 3 person shot, 1000 block hamilton st near n hawley st, report of a person shot...

TPD - check the safety, I-280 south at starr ave, report of intoxicated male at the exit, asking for money, stumbling into traffic.

TPD - extra police needed at Seagate convention center.  Afro Ball just let out and dozens of people fighting on streets of downtown.

There is more.  this all happened withing 1 hr of the first one.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on May 25, 2014, 10:07:07 AM
Both daughters saw what appeared to be a police pursuit closer to downtown about the same time this happened!

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/may/24/shots-fired-suspects-scattered-friday-night-winche/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/may/24/shots-fired-suspects-scattered-friday-night-winche/[/url])


Me, Mrs. Fuzz, and the youngest went out for kind of a late supper and rode town afterwards looking at cars at local dealerships and noticed a flurrying of emergency (fire and police) vehicle activity between the hours of 7:30 to 10:00.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: NewDawn on May 25, 2014, 11:18:35 AM
Toledo not safe, especially at night..

You'll never see this in the news.  Only on twitter as someone picks up police scanner and puts info on twitter.

Typical night in toledo

TPD - immediate response weapons call, 100 block page st near vermont ave, female getting threatened by ex-boyfriend with a gun..

TPD - disorder, w laskey rd and jackman rd at the Miracle Mile shopping center, report of 40-50 people getting ready to fight..

TPD - fight, 1415 s bryne rd at the kroger, report of a group of 25 people fighting in the parking lot....

TFD/EMS - person stabbed, 1800 block duncan rd near matlack ave, person stabbed, with life squad 3.....

TPD/TFD/EMS - code 3 person shot, 1000 block hamilton st near n hawley st, report of a person shot...

TPD - check the safety, I-280 south at starr ave, report of intoxicated male at the exit, asking for money, stumbling into traffic.

TPD - extra police needed at Seagate convention center.  Afro Ball just let out and dozens of people fighting on streets of downtown.

There is more.  this all happened withing 1 hr of the first one.


 AFRO BALL????  Darn...I missed it!  lol
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: tnweasel on May 25, 2014, 11:49:24 AM
not in the news..... one day last week after dropping my daughter off at school in Newport....driving back to Monroe on Telegraph I noticed a female....looked to be in her thirties SITTING on the side of the road between the liquor store and Kimberly Estates....she was sitting on the white line, rocking back and forth into traffic, screaming and hitting herself in the face....wouldn't have taken much effort to rock backwards into the path of a car or truck....and the vehicles coming down Telegraph toward Monroe are usually going well over 50.....anyway....stopped my van and walked back towards the woman...asking if she was okay....she was very agitated and wouldn't look at me.....so, went back to my car....turned on the flashers so people coming down the road would pay attention ...called 911....waited 17 minutes and no one showed up....finally, the woman got tired of me watching her and walked back into the trailer park screaming for some named Michael.....I called the 911 operator and told her the lady was gone....operator said someone was on their way....I told her that I could make it from my house to the high school to pick up my daughter in less than ten minutes....all without the benefits of blue lights and sirens....and I was going home. ....never passed a police car all the way back to Monroe.....VERY disappointed in the police department for not taking this more seriously....it was 7am...couldn't have been so much else going on that they couldn't have spared someone to check on this woman....
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Hearshear on May 25, 2014, 12:50:28 PM
Anybody know why the MEN always has the county police reports in the paper but never the city ones?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 25, 2014, 01:13:56 PM
not in the news..... one day last week after dropping my daughter off at school in Newport....driving back to Monroe on Telegraph I noticed a female....looked to be in her thirties SITTING on the side of the road between the liquor store and Kimberly Estates....she was sitting on the white line, rocking back and forth into traffic, screaming and hitting herself in the face....wouldn't have taken much effort to rock backwards into the path of a car or truck....and the vehicles coming down Telegraph toward Monroe are usually going well over 50.....anyway....stopped my van and walked back towards the woman...asking if she was okay....she was very agitated and wouldn't look at me.....so, went back to my car....turned on the flashers so people coming down the road would pay attention ...called 911....waited 17 minutes and no one showed up....finally, the woman got tired of me watching her and walked back into the trailer park screaming for some named Michael.....I called the 911 operator and told her the lady was gone....operator said someone was on their way....I told her that I could make it from my house to the high school to pick up my daughter in less than ten minutes....all without the benefits of blue lights and sirens....and I was going home. ....never passed a police car all the way back to Monroe.....VERY disappointed in the police department for not taking this more seriously....it was 7am...couldn't have been so much else going on that they couldn't have spared someone to check on this woman....

The main reason I maintain that it's just preudence to be armed, at home.  By the time LE arrives on the scene, the perp has either shot you or cleaned you out.

I would never depend on police responce time, for anything.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on May 26, 2014, 10:12:29 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/may/26/cpl-david-foley-dies-church/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/may/26/cpl-david-foley-dies-church/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on May 26, 2014, 10:32:21 AM
not in the news.....   <snip>
 ...called 911....waited 17 minutes and no one showed up....finally, the woman got tired of me watching her and walked back into the trailer park screaming for some named Michael.....I called the 911 operator and told her the lady was gone....operator said someone was on their way....I told her that I could make it from my house to the high school to pick up my daughter in less than ten minutes....all without the benefits of blue lights and sirens....and I was going home. ....never passed a police car all the way back to Monroe.....VERY disappointed in the police department for not taking this more seriously....it was 7am...couldn't have been so much else going on that they couldn't have spared someone to check on this woman....

Sheriff's Department not Police, 
and   I'm glad you put the time in...   That's Shift Change most likely  8)

Anybody know why the MEN always has the county police reports in the paper but never the city ones?
They would need to hire someone to take on that added responsibility of pushing a button to print out the report every day?

actually they do theirs on occasion with a city map to show the locations  weekly??
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on May 26, 2014, 10:41:45 AM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/may/26/cpl-david-foley-dies-church/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/may/26/cpl-david-foley-dies-church/[/url])

I was shocked and saddened to hear of his passing.  He was a great guy and I worked along side him many times over my career. 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on May 26, 2014, 02:28:34 PM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/may/26/cpl-david-foley-dies-church/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/may/26/cpl-david-foley-dies-church/[/url])


Very sad for his family, but happy for him, he is in a better place.....

I crossed paths with him many times, and each of them was a pleasure. 

I'm glad to hear his son is on the force.

 :'(
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 26, 2014, 03:10:27 PM
Everyone dies....eventually.  You come into this world naked and unknowing and leave the same way.....

Make everyday count.  It may be your last.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: livewire on May 27, 2014, 07:17:30 AM
I still want to know what an Afro Ball is.

Is it a party?  Formal dance?  What? ? ? ? ?

And what does it have to do with dozens of people fighting in the streets?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on May 27, 2014, 07:56:04 AM
THE RECESSION IS OVER!!!

The flowered 'Monroe' is back!!!

I honestly hadn't seen it.  I've been avoiding Monroe Street at all costs since they've been working on the street!

(http://monroenews.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2014/05/26/monroe-6ff1dm4kz351ffgfb74m_original_t670.jpg?b3f6a5d7692ccc373d56e40cf708e3fa67d9af9d)

Article at:  http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/may/27/monroe-again-spelled-out-flowers-memorial-park/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/may/27/monroe-again-spelled-out-flowers-memorial-park/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 27, 2014, 09:45:52 AM
I still want to know what an Afro Ball is.

Is it a party?  Formal dance?  What? ? ? ? ?

And what does it have to do with dozens of people fighting in the streets?

Maybe we want to go as chaperones?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on May 27, 2014, 10:37:57 AM
I just wrote everything i pulled off the toledo police scanner on here.
Fighting in streets of downtown after Afro ball lets out from Seagate convention center.
I guess you'll have to use your imagination as to what it was and why they were fighting.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on May 27, 2014, 01:21:53 PM
Nice to see the Kentucky Monument/Park  -  Floral City  (Monroe)  Back!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on May 28, 2014, 09:56:30 AM
Nice to see the Kentucky Monument/Park  -  Floral City  (Monroe)  Back!

+1

Is it that same flower - or did they find another species that could do it?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 28, 2014, 12:20:09 PM
I see the Fed has upperd the reward on the defendants that skipped bond in Detroit on the drug trial.... 

They ain't never gonna be found because they are out of the country as in GONE...

The judge that allowed bail should be removed from the bench....

The 21 Million in cash and vehicles that the Fed recovered should have tolf the judge that these guys were set cash wise.....

Probably somewhere warm and sunny dealing more drugs...........
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on May 28, 2014, 12:22:53 PM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/may/28/university-poet-author-maya-angelou-dies-86/?in-other-news (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/may/28/university-poet-author-maya-angelou-dies-86/?in-other-news)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on June 09, 2014, 12:42:28 PM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jun/09/monroe-woman-arrested-after-causing-scene/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jun/09/monroe-woman-arrested-after-causing-scene/)

I don't even know how this would have made the paper . . . must be a slow day!   8*
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on June 10, 2014, 07:49:56 AM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jun/09/monroe-woman-arrested-after-causing-scene/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jun/09/monroe-woman-arrested-after-causing-scene/[/url])

I don't even know how this would have made the paper . . . must be a slow day!   8*

Mother daughter fights,  chasing a hooker around a gas station,   writing tickets... 

good thing there is no real crime,   no wonder the police were looking for part time work to keep their staffing levels up  ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on June 10, 2014, 09:27:29 AM
I think it would be worth tracking and publishing heroine related arrests.  I'm not seeing many news releases for something that is publicized to be such a problem in town.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on June 10, 2014, 09:35:55 AM
I think it would be worth tracking and publishing heroine related arrests.  I'm not seeing many news releases for something that is publicized to be such a problem in town.


I'm guessing currently they're all just lumped together so really can't tell what is what...

not sure if that is done intentionally or just the way the court system handles things.

Here's the guy they're trying to ID...

found him walking out around Dunbar and Laplaisance...

I hope they checked the tent jail for walkaways 8* 8* 8*

(http://monroenews.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2014/06/09/hospital_trespasser_t670.jpg?b3f6a5d7692ccc373d56e40cf708e3fa67d9af9d)

Related article...  as always, the public comments at the bottom are almost as good as some I see here:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jun/09/police-seek-help-identifying-man/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jun/09/police-seek-help-identifying-man/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Debimark on June 10, 2014, 10:35:03 AM
Thought this might be the guy who always shows up at County Commissioner Meetings and rambles and rambles.  No wait, that's Jan Jay...................never mind.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on June 10, 2014, 10:58:44 AM
Maybe if they could talk him into shaving and then posting another picture he might look more familiar to someone :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on June 11, 2014, 07:54:57 AM
Thought this might be the guy who always shows up at County Commissioner Meetings and rambles and rambles.  No wait, that's Jan Jay...................never mind.

...   what ever happened to Jan?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on June 11, 2014, 08:09:20 AM
I heard he is running a Doggie Day Care Center and teaching them pig Latin.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on June 11, 2014, 10:03:03 AM
I heard he is running a Doggie Day Care Center and teaching them pig Latin.

You're on a roll this morning 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on June 11, 2014, 10:16:44 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jun/11/more-50-marijuana-plants-found-erie/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jun/11/more-50-marijuana-plants-found-erie/)

50 dead plants make the news... 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on June 11, 2014, 10:22:47 AM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jun/11/more-50-marijuana-plants-found-erie/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jun/11/more-50-marijuana-plants-found-erie/[/url])

50 dead plants make the news...


It's been a slow news week ;) ;) ;)

After the Al Barron story somewhat subsided there isn't much to talk about :o :o :o
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 11, 2014, 03:25:06 PM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jun/11/more-50-marijuana-plants-found-erie/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jun/11/more-50-marijuana-plants-found-erie/[/url])

50 dead plants make the news...


Dead is smokeable..... ;D

Wonder if thats EM's neighbor?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on June 17, 2014, 08:00:14 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jun/14/man-arrested-monroe-hotel-dealing-crack/?top-stories (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jun/14/man-arrested-monroe-hotel-dealing-crack/?top-stories)

Excerpt from article:
Quote
Police on special detail that targeted drug deals arrested a suspect crack cocaine dealer from Detroit at a Monroe hotel Wednesday night. #Reports said investigators found 35 individually wrapped chunks of crack cocaine hidden behind a television set. Also seized from the room were scales, paraphernalia and $363 in cash, reports said. The alleged dealer, 41, was lodged in the county jail on charges of possessing cocaine with intent to deliver. #Using a federal grant, Monroe police were watching area hotels where drug activity had been reported.


So they need a special grant now to catch drug dealers?   
I would think finding heroin and crack dealers would be their full time job - as those lead to most other crimes right now.  8*
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: rwwjr on June 17, 2014, 10:27:52 AM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jun/14/man-arrested-monroe-hotel-dealing-crack/?top-stories[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jun/14/man-arrested-monroe-hotel-dealing-crack/?top-stories[/url])

Excerpt from article:
So they need a special grant now to catch drug dealers?   

Too busy playing fireman to be finding heroin and crack dealers full time!
I would think finding heroin and crack dealers would be their full time job - as those lead to most other crimes right now.  8*

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on June 17, 2014, 07:39:46 PM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jun/14/man-arrested-monroe-hotel-dealing-crack/?top-stories[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jun/14/man-arrested-monroe-hotel-dealing-crack/?top-stories[/url])

Excerpt from article:
So they need a special grant now to catch drug dealers?   
I would think finding heroin and crack dealers would be their full time job - as those lead to most other crimes right now.  8*


They need a Federal Grant to pay for their activities - outside of their fire fighting duties - don't ya know....
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on June 18, 2014, 09:20:05 AM
LOL  ...   baby steps ...   firefighting - then catching drug dealers...   
I guess they have the City by the gonads, only have to do "work" when you get paid extra to do it!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on June 18, 2014, 03:31:27 PM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jun/18/101-year-old-michigan-woman-helps-catch-suspected-/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jun/18/101-year-old-michigan-woman-helps-catch-suspected-/)




Sometimes the police get help! :)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on June 18, 2014, 08:22:28 PM
I just looked and didn't see it online but there is an article in the paper today about the unidentified man they found walking on Dunbar a couple of weeks ago...   they still have no idea who he is.  His fingerprints have apparently never been in 'the system' so he's still a 'mystery man' :( :( :(

He is in a hospital and being taken care of though!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on June 21, 2014, 10:06:03 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jun/21/thief-says-he-steals-addicted-girlfriend/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jun/21/thief-says-he-steals-addicted-girlfriend/)


Money? Who needs money?!!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on June 30, 2014, 08:59:26 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jun/30/6-new-restaurants-planned-monroe-area/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jun/30/6-new-restaurants-planned-monroe-area/)


Just what Monroe needs!  6 new resaurants!    ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Debimark on June 30, 2014, 10:56:13 AM
I stand to fathom which existing restaurants would go under of any or all of these catch on.

There are a few existing dining establishments that I can only wonder how they remain open.

Bon Apetit, indeed.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on June 30, 2014, 11:16:14 AM
http://www.ijreview.com/2014/06/152229-breaking-benchmark-hobby-lobby-case-supreme-court-decides/ (http://www.ijreview.com/2014/06/152229-breaking-benchmark-hobby-lobby-case-supreme-court-decides/)




Hobby Lobby wins!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on June 30, 2014, 12:05:55 PM
Look soon for an Executive Order to override it.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 30, 2014, 10:40:27 PM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jun/30/6-new-restaurants-planned-monroe-area/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jun/30/6-new-restaurants-planned-monroe-area/[/url])


Just what Monroe needs!  6 new resaurants!    ;)


What Monroe needs is better urban planning and less one way streets to nowhere.... ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 01, 2014, 10:06:55 AM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jun/30/6-new-restaurants-planned-monroe-area/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jun/30/6-new-restaurants-planned-monroe-area/[/url])


Just what Monroe needs!  6 new resaurants!    ;)


As I commented on the 'other' thread...   even though the article counts 6 'new' eateries...

I only really see one...   maybe two at the most!

The heli-pad restaurant on Telegraph across from the SOS is absolutely new!

The new sports bar operation going into the 'old' Bob Evans on N. Dixie you might count as new since BE has been closed for several years and it was more of a breakfast place and probably was closed in the evening just about the time Angelo will have this place 'starting' to hop!!!

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 01, 2014, 09:05:10 PM
CL and myself and the rest of the HS crowd frequent Angelo's on Friday night ocassionally (one has to have a big wallet).  Never referred to as Northwood Villa, it's just Angelo's place.

They have the best prime rib, Angelo's cut is at least 3" thick and fish on Friday.

The old BE's will be nice for Angelo, he lives close to there, but it will never have the history or ambience the Villa has.  In the 20's the Villa was a speak easy and there was gambling and women and.....  But then the dog track was over on Benore where the truck dealership is now........

Angelo retained the decor inside, it's typical 20's ornate and dimly lit with 2 bars, one off the main dining room and a private invitation only bar on the side that faces dixie.  We usually dine in the invitation only bar, no tables, sit at the bar, real informal.

I've been to a couple private parties Angelo has catered and they are always walk in crawl out even if you don't drink...and Angelo and his wife are fun people besides.

He'll do well in a sports bar and his patrons north of Toledo will go there.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 02, 2014, 04:14:44 AM
http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/25921367/mi-man-dies-in-motorcycle-accident-in-monroe-co?utm_content=buffer2040b&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer (http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/25921367/mi-man-dies-in-motorcycle-accident-in-monroe-co?utm_content=buffer2040b&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on July 02, 2014, 09:04:45 AM
67 years old....sad.  There comes a point in time however when a man, or woman for that matter, have to realize and understand that their motor skills diminish over time to the point where one just can't do safely anymore.  I see it in myself and I don't believe I would get on a motorcycle even at my age.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 02, 2014, 09:44:35 AM
67 years old....sad.  There comes a point in time however when a man, or woman for that matter, have to realize and understand that their motor skills diminish over time to the point where one just can't do safely anymore.  I see it in myself and I don't believe I would get on a motorcycle even at my age.

I heard this on the scanner last night.  My guess is he had a sudden onset medical situation (possibly a heart attack as the first responders did start CPR immediately).  This stretch of road is actually fairly smooth (for Monroe County anyway) and has a 45mph speed limit so it's very nice for just an evening ride like he was probably doing. 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 02, 2014, 10:41:05 AM
Here's the stretch where the motorcycle went off the road last night.  This Google streetview is a couple of years old but it was done when they were actually in the process of re-paving the road so it's still in pretty decent shape so probably save to take hitting a pothole out of the equation...  Maybe something came out of one of the drives on the right. 

My wife hit a deer just south of here probably 15 years ago...   actually the deer kind of ran into the side of the car and kind of kept running right up over the hood of the car...   the deer kept going and so did my wife!  Our youngest was with her and she still talks about the incident!!!

https://www.google.com/maps/place/8001+Suder+Rd/@41.762463,-83.49023,3a,75y,1.75h,75.85t/data= (https://www.google.com/maps/place/8001+Suder+Rd/@41.762463,-83.49023,3a,75y,1.75h,75.85t/data=)!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sBv3Ux51rNWVJkuo-cTdPrQ!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x883b78c391bb364b:0x32aa67dd40f2b7b9
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 04, 2014, 02:43:31 PM
http://www.mlive.com/lansing-news/index.ssf/2014/07/jennifer_granholm_california_c.html (http://www.mlive.com/lansing-news/index.ssf/2014/07/jennifer_granholm_california_c.html)

Looks like CA is going to be blown away!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on July 04, 2014, 05:57:59 PM
They can have her.

I just hope we don't get Schnaured.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 04, 2014, 06:42:54 PM
I do.  I'm tired of can kicking Snyder.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 06, 2014, 03:03:22 PM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/06/pet-rabbit-killed-erie-township/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/06/pet-rabbit-killed-erie-township/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on July 06, 2014, 06:44:08 PM
LOL, I liked the "slow news day" comment down on the bottom.  Kinda true.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on July 06, 2014, 06:48:55 PM
Surprised they took the police report.....  must be a slow day for the Sheriff too.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on July 06, 2014, 06:59:36 PM
Reported on TV4 tonight there was a shooting in Detroit. 
Wow, shootings make the news in Detroit nowdays.
They are an everyday occurrence in Toledo.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 08, 2014, 12:18:59 PM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/08/mercy-memorial-promedica-announce-plan-join-forces/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/08/mercy-memorial-promedica-announce-plan-join-forces/)


I knew this was going to happen!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 08, 2014, 12:39:07 PM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/08/mercy-memorial-promedica-announce-plan-join-forces/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/08/mercy-memorial-promedica-announce-plan-join-forces/[/url])


I knew this was going to happen!


I think this deserves a discussion thread of it's own erie...

hope you don't mind if I post it!  I'll give you credit ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on July 08, 2014, 04:19:36 PM
Pretty obvious that Promedica would be the dancing partner......  must grow!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 09, 2014, 07:19:53 AM
http://blogs.metrotimes.com/news-blawg/8-25-fastest-shrinking-u-s-cities-michigan/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MetroTimesBlogsNewsBlawg+%28Metro+Times+Blogs+%C2%BB+News+Blawg%29 (http://blogs.metrotimes.com/news-blawg/8-25-fastest-shrinking-u-s-cities-michigan/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MetroTimesBlogsNewsBlawg+%28Metro+Times+Blogs+%C2%BB+News+Blawg%29)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 09, 2014, 04:38:35 PM
This happened Tuesday morning???

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/09/diesel-fuel-leaks-fermi/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/09/diesel-fuel-leaks-fermi/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 10, 2014, 12:23:40 PM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/10/monroe-man-allegedly-showed-obscene-video-teen/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/10/monroe-man-allegedly-showed-obscene-video-teen/)


Do we know where all our posters are this morning? LOL  Just kidding friends!   ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on July 10, 2014, 08:56:26 PM
MCCC asking for more money from taxpayers.
What about students that go there pay for it...

http://www.bedfordnow.com/news/2014/jul/09/mccc-seek-millage/ (http://www.bedfordnow.com/news/2014/jul/09/mccc-seek-millage/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on July 10, 2014, 10:23:48 PM
MCCC asking for more money from taxpayers.
What about students that go there pay for it...

[url]http://www.bedfordnow.com/news/2014/jul/09/mccc-seek-millage/[/url] ([url]http://www.bedfordnow.com/news/2014/jul/09/mccc-seek-millage/[/url])


I like how they sell these things.....

It will only cost a person with a $100,000 hose $4 a month......

Well - aren't there 12 months in a year?  Well isn't that $48 a year?

What about those with a $200,000 house?  That is like $96 a year.....

A $300,000 house?  That is like ONLY $144 a year.......

Come on.....  at some point can't you come up with a different way to fund these things?

You keep building new things out there....

I don't know how much more money I have to give to Government when the raises have just been SUCKING for a long time, and Food and Energy and everything else keeps costing more.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on July 10, 2014, 10:25:20 PM
MCCC asking for more money from taxpayers.
What about students that go there pay for it...

[url]http://www.bedfordnow.com/news/2014/jul/09/mccc-seek-millage/[/url] ([url]http://www.bedfordnow.com/news/2014/jul/09/mccc-seek-millage/[/url])


And here is the other sad thing.

Is it going to go to the students?

I sincerely doubt it.

I bet you ANYTHING it goes to pay for the underfunded pension bomb they have ticking out there - like they have ticking EVERYPLACE.

Why not just ask for a State Bailout like Detroit got?

 8*
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 10, 2014, 11:18:44 PM
'caue if it passes, you'll pay for it.  Michigan is basackwards.  In Ohio, Community Colleges like Owens and Penta are state funded, no assessment needed.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 11, 2014, 10:09:52 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/11/man-robbed-gunpoint-w-seventh-st-monroe/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/11/man-robbed-gunpoint-w-seventh-st-monroe/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 11, 2014, 10:26:06 AM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/11/man-robbed-gunpoint-w-seventh-st-monroe/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/11/man-robbed-gunpoint-w-seventh-st-monroe/[/url])


And all he wanted to do was 'hook up' with a woman from Monroe :o :o :o
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 11, 2014, 10:31:07 AM
LOL 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on July 11, 2014, 10:59:58 AM
It's even funnier that they know where they live... 

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 11, 2014, 01:10:42 PM
I'm glad they got these guys!

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/11/police-toledo-couple-killed-missing-michigan-man/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/11/police-toledo-couple-killed-missing-michigan-man/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 11, 2014, 03:13:36 PM
I'm glad they got these guys!

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/11/police-toledo-couple-killed-missing-michigan-man/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/11/police-toledo-couple-killed-missing-michigan-man/[/url])


Just saw on Toledo news that they're looking for the man's body in a shed or a barn 'somewhere' between Toledo and Anderson, IN...   has to be a lot of barns and sheds in that distance!

While we were sitting outside eating lunch we watched a helicopter flying all around us...   seems to be looking for something but it really wasn't flying much of a search pattern either.  Like it was wanting to look at a few particular areas...  strange!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 11, 2014, 03:16:06 PM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/11/pilot-killed-crash/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/11/pilot-killed-crash/)

They found what they were looking for BRD!   :(
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 11, 2014, 03:39:10 PM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/11/pilot-killed-crash/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/11/pilot-killed-crash/[/url])

They found what they were looking for BRD!   :(


That's a shame...   built his own plane too it sounds like!

I don't think they were looking for that though.  It was quite a bit after 2pm (my wife is on vacation so we were having a very late lunch...  in fact I looked at the time and it was exactly 3 when we finished and I could still hear the helicopter.  I knew it wasn't either of the Sheriff's birds and it kind of looked like a a LifeFlight chopper but it sure didn't sound like one!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 11, 2014, 09:05:35 PM
I think I finally figured out what the helicopter was doing out here flying around this afternoon:

http://monroetalks.com/forum/index.php?topic=29860.msg664436#msg664436 (http://monroetalks.com/forum/index.php?topic=29860.msg664436#msg664436)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 11, 2014, 09:07:16 PM
LOL So that's it! 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 11, 2014, 09:09:24 PM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/11/pilot-killed-crash/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/11/pilot-killed-crash/[/url])

They found what they were looking for BRD!   :(


Here are a few pictures from the crash site:

http://monroenews.smugmug.com/Gyrocopter-Fatal-Crash/i-ztSdRv8/A (http://monroenews.smugmug.com/Gyrocopter-Fatal-Crash/i-ztSdRv8/A)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 11, 2014, 09:10:41 PM
LOL So that's it!

It all makes perfect sense now...

I should have figured it out earlier ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on July 11, 2014, 09:11:02 PM
So do you need a license to build and fly your own?

Or do you just build it up in the barn and go for it?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 12, 2014, 08:32:01 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/12/monroe-gym-closes-no-notice-customers/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/12/monroe-gym-closes-no-notice-customers/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on July 12, 2014, 11:20:34 AM
Gyms are a big business but you have to be big to proper.  Superfitness on Telegraph owners are opening gyms in China.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 12, 2014, 04:26:42 PM
Gyms are a big business but you have to be big to proper.  Superfitness on Telegraph owners are opening gyms in China.

To me, that sounds like a loosing proposition.

I fail to understand why ayone would actually pay another party to sweat.  You want a workout and sweat some sebacious tissue off??  I'll put ya to work on a hay wagon and instead of you paying me, I'll pay you, that is if you are worth a shitte..... ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: livewire on July 12, 2014, 09:01:49 PM
Gyms make their money on people who pay for memberships, then rarely, or never use the gym.

People buy memberships at gyms to make themselves feel better - even if they never use the equipment.

I think it's a great gimmick.  Fortunes have been made on people wanting to feel good about themselves.

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Tiny on July 12, 2014, 10:38:10 PM
Planet Fitness the one that opened in the Mall only charges $ 10 a month no commitment and they are packed all the time.

http://www.planetfitness.com/membership-types (http://www.planetfitness.com/membership-types)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: livewire on July 12, 2014, 10:54:55 PM
Many gyms are busy.  I plow snow in the parking lot of a gym here in Milan, and I frequently plow at 2 or 3 in the morning.  Even at this hour, there are almost always cars in the lot.  But not a bunch. 

Even the big gyms that are busy, they sell FAR more memberships than those that actually use them.  Each local gym typically has hundreds of members.  If they all used their memberships, no one would be able to get near the place. 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 12, 2014, 10:59:05 PM
Gyms make their money on people who pay for memberships, then rarely, or never use the gym.

People buy memberships at gyms to make themselves feel better - even if they never use the equipment.

I think it's a great gimmick.  Fortunes have been made on people wanting to feel good about themselves.

No need for a health club mambership here.  HS owns a health club and all employees are members.

You implying that I should charge people for a hay workout....  Sounds good to me.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on July 13, 2014, 07:46:12 AM
No need for a health club mambership here.  HS owns a health club and all employees are members.

You implying that I should charge people for a hay workout....  Sounds good to me.

Nope.

You have to pay me.

Let me know when you want me to show.

You know what the Micky D rate is.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 13, 2014, 07:59:45 AM
I'm glad they got these guys!

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/11/police-toledo-couple-killed-missing-michigan-man/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/11/police-toledo-couple-killed-missing-michigan-man/[/url])


A lot more details coming out now on this...

apparently the victim 'hooked up' one too many times with the gal :o :o :o

http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2014/07/12/Police-seek-clues-in-apartment-of-East-Toledo-husband-wife.html (http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2014/07/12/Police-seek-clues-in-apartment-of-East-Toledo-husband-wife.html)

Article with video for those that don't like to read:

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/ohio-couple-accused-of-killing-missing-michigan-man/26901122 (http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/ohio-couple-accused-of-killing-missing-michigan-man/26901122)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 13, 2014, 11:55:50 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/13/new-mexico-driver-stalled-pickup-finds-slithering-/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/13/new-mexico-driver-stalled-pickup-finds-slithering-/)


I am glad I am in Tennessee!

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on July 13, 2014, 12:55:46 PM


I am glad I am in Tennessee!




In case you didn't know...  there's snakes in them thare hills...  ;)

might want to read this so you can ID the 4 venemous ones  ;D
http://www.tennsnakes.org/ (http://www.tennsnakes.org/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 13, 2014, 01:15:51 PM
Yikes!

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 13, 2014, 09:25:53 PM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/13/new-mexico-driver-stalled-pickup-finds-slithering-/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/13/new-mexico-driver-stalled-pickup-finds-slithering-/[/url])


I am glad I am in Tennessee!


Here's a good Tennessee song by one of the fuzz's favorite performers:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq94Q0APkgM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq94Q0APkgM#)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 14, 2014, 06:40:04 PM
http://www.mlive.com/golf/index.ssf/2014/07/west_michigan_friends_score_ba.html (http://www.mlive.com/golf/index.ssf/2014/07/west_michigan_friends_score_ba.html)

Here is one for the golfers!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on July 14, 2014, 09:09:32 PM
Here's a good Tennessee song by one of the fuzz's favorite performers:

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq94Q0APkgM]www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq94Q0APkgM[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq94Q0APkgM#[/url])


I always admired Johnny Carson, especially after this:

Dolly Parton on the Tonight Show starring Johnny Carson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw2W8ZC7pkM#)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 15, 2014, 07:22:02 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/15/suspect-work-stabbing-kills-self-us-23/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/15/suspect-work-stabbing-kills-self-us-23/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 15, 2014, 08:02:16 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/15/newport-homeowner-church-odds-over-building-projec/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/15/newport-homeowner-church-odds-over-building-projec/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 15, 2014, 08:17:27 AM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/15/newport-homeowner-church-odds-over-building-projec/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/15/newport-homeowner-church-odds-over-building-projec/[/url])


I had to laugh when I saw the 'layout' in the paper last night of the above article which was right beside Tom Treece's 'opinion' article:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/14/nothing-sweeter-family-harmony/?sharper-focus (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/14/nothing-sweeter-family-harmony/?sharper-focus)

I'm not sure if someone at the news has a great sense of humor or if they just weren't paying attention to the 'content' of either or both articles ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 15, 2014, 08:24:42 AM
An attempt at a child abduction (11 yr old girl) down in Bowling Green yesterday...

BG is a very quick road trip from our area!!!

http://www.sent-trib.com/local-news/attempted-child-abduction-reported-in-bg-7-14-14 (http://www.sent-trib.com/local-news/attempted-child-abduction-reported-in-bg-7-14-14)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 15, 2014, 08:49:24 PM
I actually saw these in the paper this evening...

but it was sent to press this morning so I guess it counts!

Still no confirmed cause on the fire at the Hidden Trails apartments.  Not considered suspicious...  could have been a candle or could have been an electric issue with an air conditioner!

The other was on a couple that are visiting Monroe and staying in their RV out at the HarborTown RV Resort on Laplaisance Road.  And literally as I was sitting and reading that article MonroeTown Fd was dispatched on a rescue call out there for a (I believe they said 12 yr old but I'm not 100% on that age) person who was flying a kite and it came into contact with the power lines.  Seems like that is where some of the really big lines are located.  I don't know anything else other than they took the victim direct to St. Vincent's in Toledo.  No details on condition though.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 15, 2014, 10:17:51 PM
I find it amusing that it's called an RV Resort.  Looks to me like a concrete parking lot with some trees in the middle of a wasteland of bankrupt businesses and an abandoned fast food joint.

It's actiullay a truckstop for RV's.

Close enough to 75 to be conveinent for transient RV'ers where they can hear the whine of tires on the Interstate all night long.  Thats a 'resort' for sure.

Even the Krudground (KOA in Summerfield) is a better choice (though probably more expensive).

I wonder if Erie lands in those places when she's motorhoming?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on July 15, 2014, 10:23:33 PM
I find it amusing that it's called an RV Resort.  Looks to me like a concrete parking lot with some trees in the middle of a wasteland of bankrupt businesses and an abandoned fast food joint.

It's actiullay a truckstop for RV's.

Close enough to 75 to be conveinent for transient RV'ers where they can hear the whine of tires on the Interstate all night long.  Thats a 'resort' for sure.

Even the Krudground (KOA in Summerfield) is a better choice (though probably more expensive).

I wonder if Erie lands in those places when she's motorhoming?

But jam packed full Flip.....

I don't get it.

The only way it makes ANY sense to me is Lake Erie is right there.....  are they all out boating and that is close to the lake?

I doubt it.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 16, 2014, 07:36:51 AM
Here's the article on the latest on Hidden Trails fire investigation:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/16/hidden-trails-apartment-fire-cause-still-unknown/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/16/hidden-trails-apartment-fire-cause-still-unknown/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 16, 2014, 09:36:47 PM
An attempt at a child abduction (11 yr old girl) down in Bowling Green yesterday...

BG is a very quick road trip from our area!!!

[url]http://www.sent-trib.com/local-news/attempted-child-abduction-reported-in-bg-7-14-14[/url] ([url]http://www.sent-trib.com/local-news/attempted-child-abduction-reported-in-bg-7-14-14[/url])


If I ever considered abducting anyone in BG, it would be one of those hottie college gals down there.  They are smok'in.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 17, 2014, 06:13:21 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/17/michigan-prison-workers-fired-inmate-contact/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/17/michigan-prison-workers-fired-inmate-contact/)

Yuck!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 17, 2014, 06:47:47 AM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/17/michigan-prison-workers-fired-inmate-contact/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/17/michigan-prison-workers-fired-inmate-contact/[/url])

Yuck!


Apparently nobody thought to look for cameras in side the cooler :-\ :-\ :-\

Seems like years ago I would buy my airline fittings in the shop from an outfit named Aramark...

These must be some of the new 'jobs' the governor said he was bringing to Michigan :o :o :o
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 17, 2014, 08:11:28 AM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/17/michigan-prison-workers-fired-inmate-contact/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/17/michigan-prison-workers-fired-inmate-contact/[/url])

Yuck!


Here are a couple of more articles from the Free Press with a few more 'details' ;D ;D ;D

http://www.freep.com/article/20140713/NEWS06/307130092/aramark-prison-food-fraternization (http://www.freep.com/article/20140713/NEWS06/307130092/aramark-prison-food-fraternization)

http://www.freep.com/article/20140716/NEWS06/307160148/aramark-inmate-sex-michigan-prison?odyssey=obinsite (http://www.freep.com/article/20140716/NEWS06/307160148/aramark-inmate-sex-michigan-prison?odyssey=obinsite)

So, the workers got fired...

what happens to the prisoners?

Did they just get 'off' so to speak ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on July 17, 2014, 08:15:35 AM
Maybe the "film" industry in Michigan will expand...   to adult entertainment found in prisons.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 17, 2014, 02:48:49 PM
I mentioned the early morning fire on Winchester street earlier today...

I thought the address sounded familiar...

it was on fire about 6 weeks ago but this time they finished the job!!!

I'm sure someone will comment about the lack of an east side station...

but it is bad when the first vehicle on the scene is from MCA :o :o :o

(http://monroenews.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2014/07/17/photo_2_copy_t670.jpg?b3f6a5d7692ccc373d56e40cf708e3fa67d9af9d)

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/17/vacant-house-burns-second-time/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/17/vacant-house-burns-second-time/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on July 17, 2014, 03:00:36 PM
The City plan gave up on the East side - so who's surprised?

At least they didn't tell the residents - "if you like your fire station you can keep your fire station"...

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 18, 2014, 07:34:27 AM
I heard the initial dispatch on this while we were having a late dinner last night.  Goetz road is the township line so central dispatched Summerfield FD to the scene although the vehicle actually ended up on the Whiteford Township side of the road.  The news report said her vehicle left the road on the right and then she over corrected and went off to the left and hit a concrete culvert!  There's nothing along there but farm fields and houses so my first guess is she swerved to avoid a dog or a cat!  I went back outside to work before I heard them call LifeFlight but did hear later when it left the scene for St. V's.  The FD was there until after 11...  probably providing lights for the sheriff's investigators.

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/18/toledo-woman-dies-one-car-crash-passenger-seriousl/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/18/toledo-woman-dies-one-car-crash-passenger-seriousl/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on July 18, 2014, 07:40:29 AM
The City plan gave up on the East side - so who's surprised?

At least they didn't tell the residents - "if you like your fire station you can keep your fire station"...

They gave up on the West side too.

They just didn't tell anyone.

I still think its impressive when you can burn down the house across the street from the fire station.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on July 18, 2014, 08:27:07 AM
Shhh...  you weren't supposed tell the public

The experiment works fine (If the townships can get there in time)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 18, 2014, 09:10:46 AM
Shhh...  you weren't supposed tell the public

The experiment works fine (If the townships can get there in time)

Unfortunately the 'cost cutting' politicians haven't all yet figured out that fire stations don't put out fires!!!

and fire trucks don't put out fires...

firefighters put out fires ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on July 18, 2014, 09:15:17 AM
Burn baby burn.....

Just get the women and children out first.....  and maybe the small animals if you have time....
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Tiny on July 18, 2014, 11:32:26 AM
Unfortunately the 'cost cutting' politicians haven't all yet figured out that fire stations don't put out fires!!!

and fire trucks don't put out fires...

firefighters put out fires ;) ;) ;)

And all this time I thought water put out fires.  :-[
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 18, 2014, 04:01:25 PM
And all this time I thought water put out fires.  :-[

Water does put out 'most' fires...

but sometimes it's better to use dry chemical...

other times it's better to use a carbon dioxide extinguisher (plus they're really good at cooling things 'fast')...

And if you're working around computers or fancy electrical equipment then the correct answer is 'none of the above'!!!  Usually you'll find the 'appropriate' extinguisher located near most anything that requires specialized extinguishers!!!

And of course, again, it's the firefighter that makes the decision of which extinguisher is best for which type of fire ;) ;) ;)

It's definitely not a 'one size fits all' world in that job ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 19, 2014, 10:08:22 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/19/woman-steals-pills-monroe-senior-citizen/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/19/woman-steals-pills-monroe-senior-citizen/)

Wasn't the last woman to "steal medicine" from Luna Pier too?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 20, 2014, 09:27:20 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/20/child-pornography-charges-filed-against-monroe-cou/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/20/child-pornography-charges-filed-against-monroe-cou/)

Sounds like this went from bad to worse :( :( :(
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 20, 2014, 09:29:33 AM
Well they're not going to have to look very far around here to write lots and lots of tickets!!!

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/19/michigan-state-police-distracted-driving-enforceme/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/19/michigan-state-police-distracted-driving-enforceme/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on July 20, 2014, 09:39:17 AM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/20/child-pornography-charges-filed-against-monroe-cou/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/20/child-pornography-charges-filed-against-monroe-cou/[/url])

Sounds like this went from bad to worse :( :( :(


Pretty sad that you have to look at people who work with your kids with a suspicious eye....

 :-[
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on July 20, 2014, 02:58:04 PM
At least LaBeau won't be presiding..........he is the judge who agreed with Prosecutors to give Luke Davis a hand slap with access to his little stripper wife.

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 20, 2014, 03:18:28 PM
At least LaBeau won't be presiding..........he is the judge who agreed with Prosecutors to give Luke Davis a hand slap with access to his little stripper wife.

I thought you were going to post pictures of the stripper wife ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on July 20, 2014, 05:42:03 PM
There are several of her in that link.....lol, a few notable side view shots.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 21, 2014, 11:04:12 AM
http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26056985/illinois-woman-posts-selfie-leads-to-her-arrest?clienttype=generic&mobilecgbypass&utm_content=buffer4fcec&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer (http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26056985/illinois-woman-posts-selfie-leads-to-her-arrest?clienttype=generic&mobilecgbypass&utm_content=buffer4fcec&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer)


Here is another brainy girl!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on July 21, 2014, 11:23:42 AM
LOL, that town is about 40 miles from where I stay near 2 manufacturing plants we have there.  Gotta love Southern Illinois women.....so much so that I married one almost 37 years ago.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 22, 2014, 07:49:06 AM
I listened to this 'play out' on the scanner last night! 

http://www.13abc.com/story/26074969/deputies-searching-for-man-in-temperance#at_pco=cfd-1.0 (http://www.13abc.com/story/26074969/deputies-searching-for-man-in-temperance#at_pco=cfd-1.0)

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/21/gunshot-reportedly-fired-bedford/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/21/gunshot-reportedly-fired-bedford/)

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 22, 2014, 08:32:03 AM
More details on the Bedford 'standoff' last night...

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/22/gunshot-reportedly-fired-bedford/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/22/gunshot-reportedly-fired-bedford/)

They missed the part about ProMedica sending a LifeFlight helicopter that 'stood by' (on the ground) for several hours 'just in case'!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 22, 2014, 04:56:04 PM
Obviously this is a 'file photo' of the Lotus Fountain...

I can't ever remember now the last time I saw it spraying...

before the hot dog cart was there though!

Anyway, looks like it's going to be more than just a 'minor' repair issue:

(http://monroenews.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2014/07/21/monroe-5vbeshpb4jkwlklna4b_original_t670.jpg?b3f6a5d7692ccc373d56e40cf708e3fa67d9af9d)

Article:  http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/22/glad-you-asked-why-isnt-lotus-fountain-operating/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/22/glad-you-asked-why-isnt-lotus-fountain-operating/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 22, 2014, 05:02:56 PM
Article on the front page of the MonroeNews today about the repairs to the "new" rock arches that were put in the river last year...  I haven't made it to the back page yet to see if it tells who is paying for these repairs.  The article says the ice jams did the damage... 

so...   isn't that going to happen every spring...

will this be an ongoing repair every year ??? ??? ???

And if it is then who foots the bill for it ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: nails on July 22, 2014, 08:10:13 PM

Seems to me that this fountain has been turned off much more than it's been running. 

Did the Road Commission build this thing?  It has leaked almost since it was built. I think they've replaced the pump a couple times also. Seriously...who did the engineering for this fountain. Don't think I want them working on any projects that I'm involved with.
Let's rename it " The Howard Penrod Memorial Fountain."

So the new river project has problems?
 
Didn't they also have problems when they put the "nice" lights on the bridge at St. Marys park?

By the way, I just spent several days in the top of the U.P. and Route 58, running along the Lake Superior shoreline is better than any road in Monroe County. So don't blame the frost and weather. There are NO potholes or patches in the pavement. A real pleasure to drive on. I think Route 28 is about as good.


Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Tiny on July 22, 2014, 09:39:44 PM
No heavy trucks running up and down them beating the crap out of them either.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: nails on July 22, 2014, 09:56:37 PM

No heavy trucks running up and down them beating the crap out of them either.

Yes but ........  They keep claiming the heavy trucks aren't a problem because the extra axles distribute the weight better. 

So .... If it isn't the heavy trucks, and it isn't the cold winter weather, it must be poor construction and poor maintenance.

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: sammy on July 22, 2014, 09:59:20 PM
Nah, they just need more money!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 23, 2014, 06:08:41 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/23/thieves-got-1k-stubhub-accounts/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/23/thieves-got-1k-stubhub-accounts/)


This scares me, with so many people/companies using the internet.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 23, 2014, 06:56:34 AM
Article on the front page of the MonroeNews today about the repairs to the "new" rock arches that were put in the river last year...  I haven't made it to the back page yet to see if it tells who is paying for these repairs.  The article says the ice jams did the damage... 

so...   isn't that going to happen every spring...

will this be an ongoing repair every year ??? ??? ???

And if it is then who foots the bill for it ??? ??? ???


Here's the full article and it answered my questions...    for the time being.

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/23/winters-wrath-forces-river-dam-repairs/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/23/winters-wrath-forces-river-dam-repairs/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

(http://monroenews.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2014/07/22/monroe-6g99f444vgh18h5n9vf_original_t670.jpg?b3f6a5d7692ccc373d56e40cf708e3fa67d9af9d)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 23, 2014, 06:59:19 AM
The wonders of miniaturization...

 http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/22/hopkins-pays-190m-pelvis-exam-pix-settlement/?in-other-news (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/22/hopkins-pays-190m-pelvis-exam-pix-settlement/?in-other-news)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 23, 2014, 07:05:43 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/23/agents-get-subsidized-obamacare-using-fake-ids/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/23/agents-get-subsidized-obamacare-using-fake-ids/)

And it continues!

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 23, 2014, 07:09:21 AM
The wonders of miniaturization...

 [url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/22/hopkins-pays-190m-pelvis-exam-pix-settlement/?in-other-news[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/22/hopkins-pays-190m-pelvis-exam-pix-settlement/?in-other-news[/url])


You would think, if you are a gyn, if you seen one, you've seen 'em all!

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 23, 2014, 07:56:45 AM
You would think, if you are a gyn, if you seen one, you've seen 'em all!

I guess it gives new meaning to the phrase "Taking your work home with you" :o :o :o
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Billy on July 23, 2014, 08:04:50 AM
Quote
so...   isn't that going to happen every spring...

will this be an ongoing repair every year ??? ??? ???

The answer if yes.

Anytime there is significant icing there will be problems. Those rocks don't stand a chance against moving ice flows.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 23, 2014, 08:09:31 AM
The answer if yes.

Anytime there is significant icing there will be problems. Those rocks don't stand a chance against moving ice flows.

That's kind of my thought too Billy... 

yes, maybe this year was worse than normal and maybe some years it won't happen at all but I think in most years there will be a very similar action needed.  If they wait until mid July to do the work every year then how many fish will actually get a chance to use it for it's intended 'ladder' effect?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 23, 2014, 08:56:26 AM
I read that and thought....  Play with the rocks every year.  I wonder too, who is paying for the recurring expense.

I find is amazing that man, in general, can't get the concept that Mothr Nature will change what she wants (like the rocks in the river) and there is nothing mortal man can do about it.

She moves them....  man puts them back, so on and so forth, every year.....

Big question....  Who pays.  I'm sure the contractor isn't doing it gratis.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 23, 2014, 09:58:39 AM
http://apmobile.worldnow.com/story/26082927/george-harrison-memorial-tree-killed-by-beetles (http://apmobile.worldnow.com/story/26082927/george-harrison-memorial-tree-killed-by-beetles)


Is this a "fitting" end? LOL

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 23, 2014, 02:46:28 PM
I read that and thought....  Play with the rocks every year.  I wonder too, who is paying for the recurring expense.

I find is amazing that man, in general, can't get the concept that Mothr Nature will change what she wants (like the rocks in the river) and there is nothing mortal man can do about it.

She moves them....  man puts them back, so on and so forth, every year.....

Big question....  Who pays. I'm sure the contractor isn't doing it gratis.

I did read through the article and it said that there was still grant money available for this so they were doing it now so the city wouldn't get hung with the bill...

I'm not sure who they think pays the money in taxes so there is grant money but somewhere along the line it's the taxpayers.  It didn't detail if it was a state or a federal grant.  I guess if it is somehow a 'private grant' (highly unlikely) then it's not the taxpayers directly footing the bill...

Maybe it's the LaZBoy Foundation making a grant to cover the costs because they feel guilty about all that corporate welfare they're receiving :o :o :o ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 23, 2014, 03:22:45 PM
I did read through the article and it said that there was still grant money available for this so they were doing it now so the city wouldn't get hung with the bill...

I'm not sure who they think pays the money in taxes so there is grant money but somewhere along the line it's the taxpayers.  It didn't detail if it was a state or a federal grant.  I guess if it is somehow a 'private grant' (highly unlikely) then it's not the taxpayers directly footing the bill...

Maybe it's the LaZBoy Foundation making a grant to cover the costs because they feel guilty about all that corporate welfare they're receiving :o :o :o ;) ;) ;).

I doubt it.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 23, 2014, 04:36:02 PM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/23/man-caught-w-seventh-after-fleeing-police/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/23/man-caught-w-seventh-after-fleeing-police/)

I listened to this 'go down' on the scanner earlier...

MCA was 'FIRST ON THE SCENE' (well, right after the 'take down' officers!!!)...

the guy then claimed he was having a heart attack so dispatch had to send MonroeTown too ;D ;D ;D

It sounds like he survived to 'run' another day ;D ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 23, 2014, 05:05:38 PM
Just reading the police news...

Man has his pocket picked and lost $50 while shopping in the 'parking lot' at the Mall of Monroe...

maybe having all that parking isn't such a good idea!

I'm sure he never would have had his pocket picked while shopping in the parking spots of downtown Monroe ;) ;) ;)

Apparently they have the tool tent set up out there again...

sort of a mobile 'Harbor Freight' :o :o :o
Title: Jimmie Johnson Jr. threatens to kill both Obama, Romney, Ryan and others!
Post by: BigRedDog on July 23, 2014, 05:33:39 PM
At least he's an equal opportunity 'house cleaner' on both sides of the aisle :o :o :o

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/23/tennessee-man-accused-threatening-kill-obama/?in-other-news (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/23/tennessee-man-accused-threatening-kill-obama/?in-other-news)
Title: Re: Jimmie Johnson Jr. threatens to kill both Obama, Romney, Ryan and others!
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 23, 2014, 09:36:43 PM
At least he's an equal opportunity 'house cleaner' on both sides of the aisle :o :o :o

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/23/tennessee-man-accused-threatening-kill-obama/?in-other-news[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/23/tennessee-man-accused-threatening-kill-obama/?in-other-news[/url])


Sounds like thats a one way ticket to the rubber room.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 23, 2014, 09:40:58 PM
...All this excitemant going on and my zuchini's keep getting bigger.  I have some major 'wife beaters' out there....

I took about 100 pounds of 'wife beater' size to work the other day and they got grabbed up right now.  Must be a bunch of zuchini bread getting baked in Toledo town....

Got some gigantic green zepplins out in the garden.... ;D

Next year I need to try growing giant pumpkins................ ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Tiny on July 23, 2014, 10:01:40 PM
You would think, if you are a gyn, if you seen one, you've seen 'em all!



I guess he enjoyed his work.  8*
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 23, 2014, 10:12:46 PM
[url]http://apmobile.worldnow.com/story/26082927/george-harrison-memorial-tree-killed-by-beetles[/url] ([url]http://apmobile.worldnow.com/story/26082927/george-harrison-memorial-tree-killed-by-beetles[/url])


Is this a "fitting" end? LOL


Stuff it in the chipper and make mulch.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 23, 2014, 10:16:19 PM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/23/agents-get-subsidized-obamacare-using-fake-ids/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/23/agents-get-subsidized-obamacare-using-fake-ids/[/url])

And it continues!


So long as the settlement money continues..........
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 24, 2014, 06:57:35 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/24/driver-killed-single-car-crash-erie/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/24/driver-killed-single-car-crash-erie/)



Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 24, 2014, 07:10:46 AM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/24/driver-killed-single-car-crash-erie/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/24/driver-killed-single-car-crash-erie/[/url])


This was originally dispatched as a possible garage fire for Erie and Morin Point.  And the location was given as Garden Court.  And then more info confirmed there was a vehicle involved and finally that it was just a vehicle on fire after it had rolled over!!!

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Erie,+MI/@41.7574396,-83.5162761,201m/data= (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Erie,+MI/@41.7574396,-83.5162761,201m/data=)!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x883b791daeb7d19d:0xe4925759fcd595a6

Sounds like this might have been the culvert that got hit:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Erie,+MI/@41.757285,-83.51567,3a,75y,306.53h,79.6t/data= (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Erie,+MI/@41.757285,-83.51567,3a,75y,306.53h,79.6t/data=)!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sH19jtfSVPR4ZX-6myGtxWg!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x883b791daeb7d19d:0xe4925759fcd595a6
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 24, 2014, 09:59:13 AM
http://charter.net/news/read/category/Africa%20News/article/the_associated_press-air_algerie_plane_disappears_from_radar-ap (http://charter.net/news/read/category/Africa%20News/article/the_associated_press-air_algerie_plane_disappears_from_radar-ap)


Wow, another plane? 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 24, 2014, 11:04:09 PM
[url]http://charter.net/news/read/category/Africa%20News/article/the_associated_press-air_algerie_plane_disappears_from_radar-ap[/url] ([url]http://charter.net/news/read/category/Africa%20News/article/the_associated_press-air_algerie_plane_disappears_from_radar-ap[/url])


Wow, another plane?


The last I heard they thought it had run into a bad thunderstorm :( :( :(


This was originally dispatched as a possible garage fire for Erie and Morin Point.  And the location was given as Garden Court.  And then more info confirmed there was a vehicle involved and finally that it was just a vehicle on fire after it had rolled over!!!

[url]https://www.google.com/maps/place/Erie,+MI/@41.7574396,-83.5162761,201m/data=[/url] ([url]https://www.google.com/maps/place/Erie,+MI/@41.7574396,-83.5162761,201m/data=[/url])!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x883b791daeb7d19d:0xe4925759fcd595a6

Sounds like this might have been the culvert that got hit:

[url]https://www.google.com/maps/place/Erie,+MI/@41.757285,-83.51567,3a,75y,306.53h,79.6t/data=[/url] ([url]https://www.google.com/maps/place/Erie,+MI/@41.757285,-83.51567,3a,75y,306.53h,79.6t/data=[/url])!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sH19jtfSVPR4ZX-6myGtxWg!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x883b791daeb7d19d:0xe4925759fcd595a6


We took a very slight detour and drove past this tonight too.  It was the culvert that I had put on the Google streetview.  The shrub that shows in the streetview is mostly all burned up.  I can see how anyone looking out and of those homes along there might easily have thought the garage was on fire when in reality it was the car just beyond the garage burning. 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 25, 2014, 08:21:09 AM
Do we know who was in the car yet?   :-\
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 25, 2014, 08:33:06 AM
Do we know who was in the car yet?   :-\

I'm guessing someone knows by now but I still haven't seen anything 'official'...  I've asked all my kids and they haven't heard who it was either though.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 25, 2014, 08:36:23 AM
Thanks BRD

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 25, 2014, 08:39:59 AM
Thanks BRD

I'm guessing there should be some news on it today.  Last night I even looked at the facebook comments at the bottom of the original article because sometimes friends and family will post there but didn't see anything except two posters wondering 'who' it was!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 25, 2014, 08:40:40 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/25/police-id-driver-single-car-crash/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/25/police-id-driver-single-car-crash/)

Here it is

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 25, 2014, 09:00:11 AM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/25/police-id-driver-single-car-crash/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/25/police-id-driver-single-car-crash/[/url])

Here it is


I don't recognize the name.  17 years old :-\ :-\ :-\ 

There were some skid marks on the pavement but it didn't look like he was speeding.  Looked more like the car got sideways and just slid off the road.  There's a county drain right along the road so it's a deep ditch and then the drive is all concrete so 'nothing gave' when he hit it.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 25, 2014, 09:04:56 AM
Whoever, he is somebodies baby.   :'(
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 25, 2014, 09:09:13 AM
Whoever, he is somebodies baby.   :'(

was
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 25, 2014, 09:10:24 AM
I don't recognize the name.  17 years old :-\ :-\ :-\ 

There were some skid marks on the pavement but it didn't look like he was speeding.  Looked more like the car got sideways and just slid off the road.  There's a county drain right along the road so it's a deep ditch and then the drive is all concrete so 'nothing gave' when he hit it.

Not skid marks...  Oh!  Shitte marks....
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Flanders on July 25, 2014, 09:58:41 AM
WTF sidecar??
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 25, 2014, 10:07:15 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/25/box-marijuana-left-bedford-porch/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/25/box-marijuana-left-bedford-porch/)

This must NOT have been the Fuzz's house!   ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on July 25, 2014, 12:45:52 PM
Quote
Church volunteers at St. Michael Catholic Church contacted Monroe police Tuesday after discovering that the altar and its linen covering had been burned. #

Police are investigating the incident as an arson case, as they believe the linens in the church in the 500 block of W. Front St. were intentionally set on fire, causing them and part of the solid oak altar to burn, according to police reports. #

There was no other damage or signs of forced entry.

Read more at: [url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/25/police-investigating-arson-after-altar-set-fire-st/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/25/police-investigating-arson-after-altar-set-fire-st/[/url])


Really?

What is wrong with you people?

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 25, 2014, 12:48:27 PM
Really?

What is wrong with you people?



To me, this one sounds like kids fooling around!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on July 25, 2014, 01:28:28 PM
We did catch a person starting fires in St. Mary's Church a few years back... 

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 25, 2014, 02:51:51 PM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/24/driver-killed-single-car-crash-erie/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/24/driver-killed-single-car-crash-erie/[/url])


This was a '97 Chevrolet Cavalier...

I wonder if those are part of the ignition switch recall?

What happens if the recall is announced on the news and the owner hasn't been officially notified by mail about the issues...

does that give GM some defense that they shouldn't have driving it anyway?

I have to think if I had one of those vehicles recalled for that switch that I could whip up some kind of 'lock' to fit around the steering column that I could flip down over the key or the switch once the engine was started...   it might look kind of ugly but I'll bet I could lock the switch and keep it from switching off!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 25, 2014, 03:16:45 PM
Thats way before the cheap azzed ignition switch.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on July 25, 2014, 04:14:10 PM
I haven't been a GM car for awhile but the ignition switches i my Jeep and Dodge are no where near where my knee would hit them.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 25, 2014, 06:44:40 PM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/25/macomb-county-body-woman-found-wooded-area/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/25/macomb-county-body-woman-found-wooded-area/)

What a sad story!

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Tiny on July 25, 2014, 09:11:11 PM

I have to think if I had one of those vehicles recalled for that switch that I could whip up some kind of 'lock' to fit around the steering column that I could flip down over the key or the switch once the engine was started...   it might look kind of ugly but I'll bet I could lock the switch and keep it from switching off!

I have a 2007 Impala which they added to the recall list and I have about 10 keys hanging from the key chain, and I have pulled and yanked and bumped it and cannot get it to turn off while driving. I wanted to see how far the key would turn off. I figured it would have to lock the steering column to cause an accident, and I can't believe it could turn that far just from keys hanging on it. It would have to push the  pin in that locks the column. If you just turn it off you can still steer and brake. I've been towed in many cars without the engine on and had no trouble steering and braking.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on July 26, 2014, 12:08:55 AM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/25/box-marijuana-left-bedford-porch/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/25/box-marijuana-left-bedford-porch/[/url])

This must NOT have been the Fuzz's house!   ;)


 ;)

Damn, that wasn't the address I told those idiots on Craigslist to send it. 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 26, 2014, 07:03:04 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/26/1-million-bond-set-killing-michigan-man/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/26/1-million-bond-set-killing-michigan-man/)

Here's to lookin' for love in all the wrong places!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on July 26, 2014, 07:10:03 AM
Women are catching up with men on the Crazy Scale.   ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 26, 2014, 07:58:36 AM
Desirae...

makes her sound so 'desirable' ;D ;D ;D ;D

When I first read this story a couple of weeks ago in The Blade I wondered then if that was her real name or her 'Alcatraz' name :o :o :o
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 26, 2014, 08:02:13 AM
I don't see anything on the MonroeNews website yet but there was another real bad wreck last night in Summerfield...   car vs. semi again!  At least one was killed and two more injured.  At least one of those was critical enough for Summerfield FD to call for LifeFlight. 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 26, 2014, 08:06:55 AM
Doesn't there seem to be more accidents lately?  What's up with that?  I remember there used to be a ?chart? in the News that said how many deaths, and it compared to last year at the same time.  I wonder what the comparison is now?  I think it may be because of the horrible roads, but also there could be more cars on the road compared to years past? 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 26, 2014, 08:22:45 AM
Doesn't there seem to be more accidents lately?  What's up with that?  I remember there used to be a ?chart? in the News that said how many deaths, and it compared to last year at the same time.  I wonder what the comparison is now?  I think it may be because of the horrible roads, but also there could be more cars on the road compared to years past?

My guess would be more 'distracted drivers'... 

way too many drivers talking on their phones or texting or playing games or trying to set their GPS while they're driving or playing with their stereo...

doing anything and everything BUT driving!!!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 26, 2014, 08:50:29 AM
http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2014/07/26/1-killed-2-injured-in-Monroe-County-crash.html (http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2014/07/26/1-killed-2-injured-in-Monroe-County-crash.html)

It also helps to wear your seat belts.  In this one it sounds like no one was wearing their seat belt but the driver had the least serious injuries...  probably because of the airbag in the wheel and having something to hold onto.  The first person responding last night told dispatch that there were two victims that had been ejected from the vehicle!

Quote
Three men were traveling south on Sylvania-Petersburg in a sport utility vehicle when for unknown reasons it left the roadway, traveled through a yard, and struck an asphalt semi trailer that was parked in a driveway, according to the sheriff‘‍s office.


All that came over the dispatch was that a vehicle had hit a semi trailer...  they didn't mention that the semi was parked in a yard.  Sounds like it must have been a real mess :( :( :(
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: CatLady on July 26, 2014, 08:59:25 AM
Doesn't there seem to be more accidents lately?  What's up with that?  I remember there used to be a ?chart? in the News that said how many deaths, and it compared to last year at the same time.  I wonder what the comparison is now?  I think it may be because of the horrible roads, but also there could be more cars on the road compared to years past?

I tend to agree with BRD that it has to do with distracted driving.  I continue to be amazed at the number of people talking on a cell phone, reading a book, putting on makeup, etc., etc.  I remember when I got my driver's license my dad saying a car is a lethal weapon - it can kill - so treat driving as such.  I was not allowed to have the radio on for a year after I got my license.  I can remember every time my mom or dad got in the car with me until I was about 30!, they  immediately turned off the radio.  And compared to a cell phone which requires the driver's interaction, the radio did not.  Do the bad roads contribute?  Probably but I don't think nearly as much as not driving when you're driving.  Bad roads mean SLOW DOWN and PAY ATTENTION.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on July 26, 2014, 09:09:06 AM
I've witnessed another distracting activity when driving that you failed to mention.   ;)

I do agree though,,,,,,way more distracted drivers nowadays that in the past.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 26, 2014, 09:09:34 AM
I tend to agree with BRD that it has to do with distracted driving.  I continue to be amazed at the number of people talking on a cell phone, reading a book, putting on makeup, etc., etc.  I remember when I got my driver's license my dad saying a car is a lethal weapon - it can kill - so treat driving as such.  I was not allowed to have the radio on for a year after I got my license.  I can remember every time my mom or dad got in the car with me until I was about 30!, they  immediately turned off the radio.  And compared to a cell phone which requires the driver's interaction, the radio did not.  Do the bad roads contribute?  Probably but I don't think nearly as much as not driving when you're driving.  Bad roads mean SLOW DOWN and PAY ATTENTION.

Absolutely you can slow down for the bad roads but there are still way too many drivers that don't.  I sit here and watch them fly down our road going from one side to the other to avoid the biggest potholes.  The crash in Summerfield last night was an SUV of some sort.  Higher center of gravity usually so more likely to do funny things at the worst possible time. 

Maybe 10 or 12 years ago there was a bad 'accident' on Telegraph out by the viaduct where a young driver (seems like she was 16 or 17) was adjusting her car radio and she got so focused on that she crossed the center line and hit at least one motorcycle.  I guess I didn't even think about making our kids leave the radio off.  The youngest one is the only one that had a cell phone that would do much though.  So far they've all turned out to be pretty good drivers.  One has her CDL and the youngest just got her chauffeur's license.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: CatLady on July 26, 2014, 09:10:20 AM
I've witnessed another distracting activity when driving that you failed to mention.   ;)

So have I but some things are better left unsaid....or to the imagination.   ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on July 26, 2014, 09:12:23 AM
 ;)  Come on, give me just a little bit of credit for not blurting it out.  I am amused however that you picked right up on that......I love it when I peg someone from the beginning.  LMAO
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 26, 2014, 09:13:09 AM
I've witnessed another distracting activity when driving that you failed to mention.   ;)

I do agree though,,,,,,way more distracted drivers nowadays that in the past.

I did have a Norelco triple head shaver that I kept in the console.  I'd often pull it out at a stop light and give myself a little 'touch up' if I was going to an appointment.  I have gotten the strangest looks from other drivers.  I would very seldom drive while shaving though and if I did it would be early in the morning when most drivers just seem to be a little more aware of what's going on. 

I am guilty of grabbing a burger and driving while I eat though ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: CatLady on July 26, 2014, 09:14:12 AM
;)  Come on, give me just a little bit of credit for not blurting it out.  I am amused however that you picked right up on that......I love it when I peg someone from the beginning.  LMAO

...and the view from a semi, high above the cars!  Oh, my!   ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on July 26, 2014, 09:17:00 AM
I bet.

The oldest distraction spawned from the oldest profession. 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 26, 2014, 09:57:05 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/26/one-dead-after-crash-summerfield-township-friday-n/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/26/one-dead-after-crash-summerfield-township-friday-n/)

A '96 Ford Explorer...   wasn't that back in the Firestone 'blow out and roll over' days?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on July 26, 2014, 10:07:31 AM
The federal investigation and all the publicity started in 2000.  It was the Wilderness AT tires that came out of the Decatur, Illinois plant.  I don't recall the model years impacted though, but I believe it to be about 3 million tires (not vehicles).
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 26, 2014, 10:15:29 AM
The federal investigation and all the publicity started in 2000.  It was the Wilderness AT tires that came out of the Decatur, Illinois plant.  I don't recall the model years impacted though, but I believe it to be about 3 million tires (not vehicles).

Now I remember...

we had a '99 Ranger with the same tires and they wouldn't replace them because the truck didn't have the high center of gravity like the Explorer so even if the tire blew out it wasn't 'likely' to roll over.  I actually had one blow out on me when I was going about 10 mph...   about a 3" triangle right out the sidewall.  I went the next day and put a set of Michelins on it and used the Firestones for wagon tires! 

And I haven't been back to Firestone or Bridgestone since ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 26, 2014, 06:45:55 PM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/26/woman-drunk-monroe-veterinarian/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/26/woman-drunk-monroe-veterinarian/)

The poor firefighter!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on July 26, 2014, 06:54:21 PM
I've told Mrs. Fuzz time and time again not to take the pets to the vet after drinking.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on July 26, 2014, 07:20:58 PM
I've told Mrs. Fuzz time and time again not to take the pets to the vet after drinking.

How much Ice Cream and Scotch before you go down and bail her out Fuzz?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on July 26, 2014, 07:57:05 PM
About a half hour after the Sheriff calls and says she has sobered up.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on July 26, 2014, 08:39:52 PM
[url]http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/07/post_21.html#incart_2box[url]

Article in MLIVE on Julia Niswender case.... 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on July 26, 2014, 08:48:54 PM
I think that is the first time I read where it was mentioned she was partially clothed in the tub.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 27, 2014, 07:26:16 AM
Emergency services were busy overnight...

A man is presumed drowned after his personal watercraft threw him off in a pond in Erie Twsp...

Someone crashed their motorcycle at the corner of Ida East Rd. and Geiger...   crashed it into a house!

Erie and Bedford were just toned out for a house fire in Temperance!!!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 27, 2014, 07:32:25 AM
Info on the drowning on Sterns Rd:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/26/ohio-man-drowns-after-jet-ski-crash-saturday/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/26/ohio-man-drowns-after-jet-ski-crash-saturday/)


http://www.13abc.com/story/26121935/report-man-drowns-after-jet-ski-crash-in-erie-township (http://www.13abc.com/story/26121935/report-man-drowns-after-jet-ski-crash-in-erie-township)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 27, 2014, 07:45:41 AM
Here is what they know about the motorcycle crash:



The Monroe County Sheriff's Department is investigating a motorcycle accident that took the life of a 21 year old Ida man after 3am this morning.
 Deputies say Jake Estes was riding a Yamaha motorcycle east on Ida East Road in Raisinville Township and failed to stop at a stop sign at Ida East and Geiger Road.  Mr. Estes continued riding his bike onto private property and struck a home.  He was not wearing a helmet and died of his injuries at the scene. Speed is believed to be a factor in the accident. The Ida Township Fire Department and Monroe Community Ambulance assisted at the scene.
 If anyone has information on the crash they are asked to contact the Sheriff's Department at (734) 240-7493.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 27, 2014, 07:52:02 AM
Here's more info from the article in The Blade:

http://www.toledoblade.com/news/2014/07/26/Search-under-way-off-of-Suder-Road.html (http://www.toledoblade.com/news/2014/07/26/Search-under-way-off-of-Suder-Road.html)

Here's the Google aerial map of the pond:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/1901+E+Sterns+Rd,+Erie,+MI+48133/@41.7454634,-83.5052443,1307m/data= (https://www.google.com/maps/place/1901+E+Sterns+Rd,+Erie,+MI+48133/@41.7454634,-83.5052443,1307m/data=)!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x883b78b0a928d727:0x8dbeb1474349b135?hl=en


There is a railroad grade that runs immediately to the west of this pond so I'm curious if maybe the railroad dug the pond back when they were either putting in the original rail grade or perhaps sometime when they were raising the grade.  There are some mature trees around the pond so it's been there a long time.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 27, 2014, 08:04:56 AM
Here is what they know about the motorcycle crash:



The Monroe County Sheriff's Department is investigating a motorcycle accident that took the life of a 21 year old Ida man after 3am this morning.
 Deputies say Jake Estes was riding a Yamaha motorcycle east on Ida East Road in Raisinville Township and failed to stop at a stop sign at Ida East and Geiger Road.  Mr. Estes continued riding his bike onto private property and struck a home.  He was not wearing a helmet and died of his injuries at the scene. Speed is believed to be a factor in the accident. The Ida Township Fire Department and Monroe Community Ambulance assisted at the scene.
 If anyone has information on the crash they are asked to contact the Sheriff's Department at (734) 240-7493.

I never heard them say he had been killed but that's what I assumed.  My wife was getting up for work so I happened to hear the dispatch pretty clear (not sleeping) and Ida had put 'a bird' on standby as soon as they answered the call and then when they arrived on the scene they said central could cancel 'the bird'. 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on July 27, 2014, 08:06:35 AM
I'm assuming it was that large rectangular pond, right BRD?  I zoomed in trying to find one closer and behind that farmhouse but don't see one.

I've driven jet skis only a few times and that was long ago.....blast btw, but accelerated quick, and I imagine even quicker nowadays.

It does appear there are many mature trees along that East shoreline.

Terrible deal, and a young man.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 27, 2014, 08:18:17 AM
I'm assuming it was that large rectangular pond, right BRD?  I zoomed in trying to find one closer and behind that farmhouse but don't see one.

I've driven jet skis only a few times and that was long ago.....blast btw, but accelerated quick, and I imagine even quicker nowadays.

It does appear there are many mature trees along that East shoreline.

Terrible deal, and a young man.

Yes, that has to be the one.  That property is 77.62 acres so the pond has to be 20 acres at least.  One of the news videos I saw said the jet ski hit a wave and threw him off.  I'm guessing there must have been another jet ski or boat or something in there to make the wave as even in a good wind I wouldn't think there'd be much of a wave. 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 27, 2014, 08:27:05 AM
Sounds like they had a real good 'knock down' on the Bedford fire this morning.  A neighbor was outside and could hear the smoke alarms going off and when he got close to the house he could see the smoke.  It probably helps to be within a half mile of a fire station too ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on July 27, 2014, 08:49:39 AM
Sounds like they had a real good 'knock down' on the Bedford fire this morning.  A neighbor was outside and could hear the smoke alarms going off and when he got close to the house he could see the smoke.  It probably helps to be within a half mile of a fire station too ;) ;) ;)

Not always!

 ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Maverick on July 27, 2014, 09:03:02 AM
Yes, that has to be the one.  That property is 77.62 acres so the pond has to be 20 acres at least.  One of the news videos I saw said the jet ski hit a wave and threw him off.  I'm guessing there must have been another jet ski or boat or something in there to make the wave as even in a good wind I wouldn't think there'd be much of a wave. 
If you look close at the lake you can see pylons set up the length of the lake like a ski course. You can also see that boats or jet skis go from one end, turn around and go back. It appears to be fairly shallow and obviously used for practice or competition skiing. It could be shallow enough that if you plunge into the water a high speed you hit the bottom.
Mav
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 27, 2014, 09:06:36 AM
So, I am reading the Sat. edition this morning, and I read this article:


Pelvis picture victims must describe trauma


 BALTIMORE ( AP) — Thousands of women whose genitals might have been photographed during gynecological exams can share a $190 million settle­ment  from Johns Hopkins Health System. But they’ll have to describe their trauma before seeing any money.

  That might be painful for some women who feel pro­foundly  violated by Dr. Ni­kita Levy, who committed suicide in February, 2013, after being caught with hundreds of pelvis pictures. Others who have gotten over their shock in the year and a half since then might wonder if it’s worth their trouble.

 And still other patients who didn’t recall any exam­room  trauma might try to collect anyway.

 One woman who con­tacted  The Associated Press seeking to join the class ac­tion  couldn’t remember Levy, but said she would try for the money.

  “I could have been a vic­tim,  and if I was, he should have to pay for what he did and the hospital should have been more aware of what was going on at the facility,” the woman said. The AP does not usually identify possible victims of sex crimes.

  As many as 8,000 women and girls already joined the class action.


I just don't get it . . . How could they feel traumatized?   I guess I'd need to know more about this situation, like, was the name attached to the vagina picture?  Did the Dr. have the camera rolling when he walked into the room and thru all the small talk?  Or was it just a picture of the genitals? 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 27, 2014, 09:22:48 AM
If you look close at the lake you can see pylons set up the length of the lake like a ski course. You can also see that boats or jet skis go from one end, turn around and go back. It appears to be fairly shallow and obviously used for practice or competition skiing. It could be shallow enough that if you plunge into the water a high speed you hit the bottom.
Mav

I see the pylons and they're about every 120'...   and you can see where there is a 'circle' at each end of the course where the boats or jet skis are turning around.  Looks like it's just a case of not as much muck or whatever in that area as the rest of the pond.

I did go back and look at the '56 DTE aerial and it still is a farm field.  But, they're just starting constructin on I-75 about a mile east of there.  My first thought was that this was too far from 75 to be a borrow pit but then I got to thinking it was probably hard to find any sand any closer than that along the lakeshore.  I went to the 1961 photo...   75 is complete with traffic and so is the pond!!!  I'd say it was highly likely it was sand for 75!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on July 27, 2014, 09:25:08 AM
Is it just me or are we on a tragic streak of young people dying in motorized accidents in Monroe County this summer?

I don't remember a clip like this in the past.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 27, 2014, 09:26:02 AM
Central just toned out MonroeTown FD for a non emergency response to their station to provide manpower assistance to the Sheriff Dept. for a water 'recovery'!   I doubt they'd call them for the recovery in Erie so it must be someone either in the quarry or in Lake Erie.

The sheriff's dive team was down in Erie pretty late so they're probably dragging this morning already.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 27, 2014, 09:42:42 AM
Updated info on the Erie Twsp. drowning:

http://www.nbc24.com/news/story.aspx?id=1075502 (http://www.nbc24.com/news/story.aspx?id=1075502)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Maverick on July 27, 2014, 09:51:23 AM
That is how I concluded that it must be shallow. The turbulence from the boat props or jets keeps the weeds from growing. In the Pontiac area they have ski clubs that rent lakes for their slalom courses. You pay annually or by the run to practice amongst the pylons. A lot of days in the summer you have a long wait for your turn. Some of the lakes rent equipment so you can practice. It's a big thing. I just didn't know of one locally.
They might have had a hard time locating the body because the water was stirred up from use. Another indicator that it is relatively shallow.
Mav
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on July 27, 2014, 10:05:49 AM
Yup....agree, if you zoom closely over the lake and scan it as you move through it you can see how shallow it is by the color differentials. 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 27, 2014, 02:46:38 PM
A body was recovered this afternoon around 1 pm in the Erie Township incident from last night.

Arson suspected in the Bedford Township fire this morning:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/27/arson-case-under-investigation-bedford-township/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/27/arson-case-under-investigation-bedford-township/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on July 27, 2014, 08:21:07 PM
Article with video from 13 ABC Toledo news:

http://www.13abc.com/story/26124378/neighbors-shocked-by-preventable-drowning (http://www.13abc.com/story/26124378/neighbors-shocked-by-preventable-drowning)

According to one of the divers the lake is about 15 feet deep.

Our son stopped to pick up his dog a bit ago.  He's been out of town since Friday morning and hadn't heard about the incident.  He is familiar with the property though and says at least one major water ski competition was filmed there.  I'm looking for it on YouTube but no luck so far. 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Maverick on July 27, 2014, 08:34:16 PM
MOst of those borrow pits took sand down to the clay layer. As it varies in depth all over the county it's not unusual that they went that far away to get sand for the expressway overpasses. The article said the water was 7 ft which could be accurate. Possibly the total depth of the pit was 15. Usually the bottom is consistently flat.
Mav
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 28, 2014, 12:15:13 PM
Look what's going on in Jackson: 

http://www.mlive.com/news/jackson/index.ssf/2014/07/muffin_top_billboard_for_plast.html (http://www.mlive.com/news/jackson/index.ssf/2014/07/muffin_top_billboard_for_plast.html)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on July 28, 2014, 02:37:06 PM
LOL

Plastic surgery has resorted to advertising

Their old billboard "size matters" lets you know their clientel
 
Title: Gasoline under $3/gallon in Toledo
Post by: BigRedDog on July 30, 2014, 12:09:39 PM
We were down there about a week ago and got our 35 gallons with our Kroger points and it was $2.249 / gallon...  prices have dropped a little over $.20 in the last week.  We still have a thousand points left so I'm hoping to see gas at a Kroger station for under $3!!!

http://www.13abc.com/clip/10419991/a-good-day-to-fill-the-tank (http://www.13abc.com/clip/10419991/a-good-day-to-fill-the-tank)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: pkrbkr on July 30, 2014, 12:37:29 PM
Just paid $3.07 off 75 on Alexis Tuesday morning ... No points involved
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Maverick on July 30, 2014, 11:40:49 PM
Diesel for $3.65 at Houghton Lake last weekend
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Tiny on July 30, 2014, 11:55:16 PM
Diesel for $3.65 at Houghton Lake last weekend

Is that good? Who buys diesel? Stuff stinks.  ;D

Long way to go to save money.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on July 31, 2014, 11:09:58 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/31/human-remains-found-monroe-quarry/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/jul/31/human-remains-found-monroe-quarry/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 31, 2014, 11:18:42 AM
Is that good? Who buys diesel? Stuff stinks.  ;D

Long way to go to save money.

Not as bad as weasel pee unleaded regular.

The stuff you eat, drink and sleep on came via a diesel powered truck.  When diesel is high, transportation companies apply a surcharge and it's passed on to the consuner, something to think about.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on August 06, 2014, 10:08:19 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/06/appliances-stolen-monroe-home/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/06/appliances-stolen-monroe-home/)

Wow, how would you like to come home to this?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on August 06, 2014, 11:02:09 AM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/06/appliances-stolen-monroe-home/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/06/appliances-stolen-monroe-home/[/url])

Wow, how would you like to come home to this?


They can have my GE Fridge.......

 8*

I am sure my insurance company would point out to me the value of that doesn't meet my deductible however.....
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on August 08, 2014, 08:05:28 AM
Melissa Andrews WTOL (https://www.facebook.com/371901772878862/photos/a.372269709508735.83153.371901772878862/685670504835319/?type=1&fref=nf)PLEASE, PLEASE SHARE, SHARE, SHARE! This is disturbing.
 The Monroe County Sheriff's Office is investigating the possible abduction of an 18-year-old Bedford Township woman. Last night around 10 PM, the sheriff's department went to Dean Road and Crabb Road in Bedford Township about the woman, who went missing under suspicious circumstances. 
 The victim, Hayley Turner, was on the phone with a friend when she stopped at the intersection to check on a person lying on the side of the road.  While still on the phone, Hailey told her friend a guy had a gun and he was following her. 
 Within minutes, Hailey's car was found idling on Dean Road east of Crabb Road. 
 During a neighborhood canvass, deputies spoke with a neighbor who observed saw a sedan (no description) with his parking lights activated. This vehicle was parked along Dean Road at Crabb Road.  One of the running lights was not working. 
 Hayley Turner, a white female
 5'0" tall, weighing approximately 130 lbs Long brown hair, just below the shoulders. 
 Brown eyes
 Last seen wearing black yoga pants and an orange T-shirt. 
 Anyone with information is asked to contact the Monroe County Sheriff's Office Detective Bureau at 734-240-7530 or 734-240-7700.
Too scary and too close to home!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 08, 2014, 09:53:24 AM
Usually a quiet area.  Thats my go to work route.

Erie....  Just another very good reason to have a Carry Permit.  If she had been armed and capable, the situation would have been extremely different.

I believe 18 is old enough for one but Live would know for sure.  18 is surely old enough for Mace or pepper spray, both of which might have allowd her some escape.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on August 08, 2014, 10:09:26 AM
I hate seeing these stories.  But even I have to take off my rose-colored glasses sometimes and see the world we live in, in the here and now!   :-\
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on August 08, 2014, 10:16:34 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/08/man-held-kidnapping-charges/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/08/man-held-kidnapping-charges/)

Here is another story - on the opposite side of the fence!   :-\   
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on August 08, 2014, 11:01:38 AM
Sorry Side...I carry and would not stop in that situation.  It is what it is today.  Just call 911 and drive beyond the scene to a safe distance and see if others come by.  Then it may be safe to help.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 08, 2014, 11:42:57 AM
Something is just not right here...

there is a house on every corner of that intersection and two of them have unobstructed views and one of the houses is almost at the intersection and not far off the road.

10pm is not all that late and there is a lot of traffic in that area still :-\ :-\ :-\

So, with all that traffic how does this 'bad guy' know that the next car through the intersection will be an un-armed 18 yr old gal?  Bedford has several contract sheriff cars...  how does he know one of them won't be the next car that pulls up?

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on August 08, 2014, 11:53:54 AM
A lot of bad guys are pretty brazen these days.  They aren't afraid of anything.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 08, 2014, 11:59:56 AM
Here's the press conference with Sheriff Malone from just a few minutes ago...

Someone matching her description was seen walking with a man in Erie about 4am today.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ5a-krNyz4&feature=youtu.be&a (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ5a-krNyz4&feature=youtu.be&a#)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Skittelroo on August 08, 2014, 03:37:40 PM
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/bedford-woman-missing-after-telling-friend-armed-man-was-following-her/27372334 (http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/bedford-woman-missing-after-telling-friend-armed-man-was-following-her/27372334)

she has been found alive/safe in a porch I  Ecorse.  No details?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on August 08, 2014, 03:54:17 PM
Good news, thanks Skit.

On a porch?  This could be an interesting story roll out.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Skittelroo on August 08, 2014, 06:45:15 PM
JMO ... I think this was planned.  According to something I read somewhere today, she has had emotional problems lately. (Sorry, can't recall where I saw it)  Mom asked (in the presser) for her to call home, no questions asked.   Phone found with batteries removed, wallet found (both @ 2 miles away, I think). 

Things don't add up for an abduction. 

----
Adding links:
https://www.facebook.com/Local4/posts/10153310070051002 (https://www.facebook.com/Local4/posts/10153310070051002)  (cell phone batteries removed, wallet NOT taken?)

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/bedford-woman-missing-after-telling-friend-armed-man-was-following-her/27372334 (http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/bedford-woman-missing-after-telling-friend-armed-man-was-following-her/27372334)    (Has had some emotional issues)
Her family said she was found Friday afternoon by a homeowner near West Outer Drive and East 19th Street in Ecorse. She was sitting outside and not wearing a shirt.

if the info in the second link are true, this may have been an abduction.  Still, everything just doesn't add up for me. 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on August 08, 2014, 08:37:53 PM
Police: Missing teen jumped from moving vehicle when she was found

Lots of conflicting stories out of the media, Skit.

http://www.freep.com/article/20140808/NEWS05/308080085/Teen-abducted-Bedford-Township (http://www.freep.com/article/20140808/NEWS05/308080085/Teen-abducted-Bedford-Township)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on August 08, 2014, 09:00:14 PM
I hope they get this straighten out pretty soon.  There will dozens of crazy stories until they do.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on August 08, 2014, 09:14:14 PM
The only thing that caught my attention was in the news conference this morning when her mother said "Call home, call anybody.  We promise, no questions asked."
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on August 08, 2014, 09:20:30 PM
Well - she is 18......

 8*
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Tiny on August 08, 2014, 09:40:09 PM
I got an email over a year ago warning that this kind of stuff was happening North of here.

Same MO, "Person lies along the road until a car stops and the driver gets out, and people hiding in the bushes jump out and car jack them or rob them."

Call the police and let them handle it.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on August 08, 2014, 09:59:02 PM
Well - she is 18......

 8*

They knew she had been abducted at that point.....18 or not.   8*
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on August 08, 2014, 10:02:46 PM
I didn't see the press conference Fuzz.

Working.  Having a fantastic day. 

I read your statement the wrong way.  Thought mom was talking to her? 

Just read they found her sitting on a porch in Ecorse, and then your statement.

Give me a break?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on August 08, 2014, 10:39:11 PM
No problem......I saw the news conference this morning, then the report of her being found on a porch, then that she was seen jumping out of a moving car to her freedom.

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 08, 2014, 11:22:12 PM
It still smells like last week's fish.  You can't get 2=2=4 from it.

I have to wonder if it's drug related.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: ell on August 09, 2014, 09:35:34 AM
Usually a quiet area.  Thats my go to work route.

Erie....  Just another very good reason to have a Carry Permit.  If she had been armed and capable, the situation would have been extremely different.

I believe 18 is old enough for one but Live would know for sure.  18 is surely old enough for Mace or pepper spray, both of which might have allowd her some escape.

You must be 21, Flip.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: CatLady on August 09, 2014, 10:17:16 AM
You must be 21, Flip.

Several times over.   :)

This has a lot of things that don't make sense.  To me it sounds like she had a disagreement with her parents, went off with her boyfriend and then had a disagreement with him.  All very strange.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on August 09, 2014, 11:08:50 AM
I wonder if the police had any input to what the parents said?  It was almost the same wording as the parents used in the case last week with the girl found at the quarry .
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on August 09, 2014, 11:21:15 AM
Several times over.   :)

This has a lot of things that don't make sense.  To me it sounds like she had a disagreement with her parents, went off with her boyfriend and then had a disagreement with him.  All very strange.

I thought he only looked twice over.   ;D

Ah yes, that wonderful age when it can't be distinguished between lust and love.  Wait, does that ever go away?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on August 09, 2014, 01:24:43 PM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/09/peeping-tom-newport-steals-bra/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/09/peeping-tom-newport-steals-bra/)


Move the hamper ladies! :)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on August 09, 2014, 02:42:11 PM
This looks to me to be the works of a former poster here......Farmer Ted!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on August 09, 2014, 02:49:42 PM
LOL!!

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 09, 2014, 11:40:21 PM
The article goes on to say......

A review of the video showed the man ap­proaching the house and looking into the win­dow while performing a lewd act.........

The he reached in and grabbed the bra.

I presume the 'lewd act' had something to do with self gratification.....

Maybe he needed the bra to wipe himself off...... ;D

Moron County breeds some strange folks.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on August 10, 2014, 07:59:16 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/10/nascars-stewart-hits-kills-driver-ny-track/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/10/nascars-stewart-hits-kills-driver-ny-track/)


Uh Oh, I think Tony Stewart is done driving!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 10, 2014, 08:22:16 AM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/10/nascars-stewart-hits-kills-driver-ny-track/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/10/nascars-stewart-hits-kills-driver-ny-track/[/url])


Uh Oh, I think Tony Stewart is done driving!


I just saw somewhere that he is racing today!

Here's a video of the incident.  Make up your own mine about any possible safety issues during the race!

Warning graphic footage and a couple of bad words from the announcer:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1VZ9qF4Y3I&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1VZ9qF4Y3I&feature=youtu.be#)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 10, 2014, 08:33:31 AM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/09/peeping-tom-newport-steals-bra/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/09/peeping-tom-newport-steals-bra/[/url])


Move the hamper ladies! :)


There wasn't even a description given...

are we at least talking black or white?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on August 10, 2014, 05:31:15 PM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/10/bedford-teen-abduction-unfounded/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/10/bedford-teen-abduction-unfounded/)


Call off the dogs . . . it was all made up!  Something tells me she is gonna be in T R O U B L E!!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on August 10, 2014, 05:38:02 PM
LOL, brother.......and it will probably be written off because after all, she was an 18 year old girl.   8*

Gonna be interesting to watch the FB comments at the bottom of that clip.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on August 10, 2014, 07:05:13 PM
Couple of interesting points in a few of the reports.  Like.....police would not investigate it had it been reported as an 18 year old runaway, and it appears the police and media caught on to the point I was trying to make in that why did the mother say (before she was found) come home, call home, no questions asked, promise.

http://www.wxyz.com/news/monroe-county-sheriffs-office-closes-hayley-turner-abduction-case (http://www.wxyz.com/news/monroe-county-sheriffs-office-closes-hayley-turner-abduction-case)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: rwwjr on August 10, 2014, 07:43:05 PM
And it makes me wonder why her friend did not call 911 instead of the young lady's parents?  With a gun involved, and phone goes dead?  That was the 1st thing I told my wife that something sounded suspicious
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on August 10, 2014, 07:49:21 PM
I think everyone should drop it.  It's between her and her parents and still maybe law enforcement but that's it.
I don't need to know any more
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on August 10, 2014, 07:52:45 PM
Yup, it's over.  On to the next story in tomorrow's paper! :)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on August 10, 2014, 07:53:34 PM
Will be the Tigers playing 19 innings~ LOL

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on August 10, 2014, 07:57:38 PM
I think everyone should drop it.  It's between her and her parents and still maybe law enforcement but that's it.
I don't need to know any more

I don't need to know anymore either, except I would like to see any added cost to the taxpayer that was spent reimbursed for this little fake ploy that the entire family was involved in, or just one.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on August 10, 2014, 08:20:46 PM
LOL, brother.......and it will probably be written off because after all, she was an 18 year old girl.   8*

Gonna be interesting to watch the FB comments at the bottom of that clip.

Hey Fuzz - I DID interpret what MOM said correctly!

I guess she knows her daughter!

 ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Tiny on August 10, 2014, 08:23:01 PM
Yup, it's over.  On to the next story in tomorrow's paper! :)

"Girls abducted from mud pit near River Raisin"  8*
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on August 10, 2014, 08:24:08 PM
"Girls abducted from mud pit near River Raisin"  8*

Which one?

 ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on August 10, 2014, 08:25:21 PM
Mud Slinging Gone Wild
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on August 10, 2014, 08:28:03 PM
She would get her young little butt spanked in the Puddin' Pit,,,,,,along with the parents if they had any knowing role in this ploy.

Hey Fuzz - I DID interpret what MOM said correctly!

I guess she knows her daughter!

 ;)

You TOTALLY didn't get my point when I clearly stated that it was odd that the mother said what she did before she was even found.  So no, you did not get it if the mother and father were lying....which is what I was implying, nothing to do with being 18.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Tiny on August 10, 2014, 08:36:28 PM
"Girls abducted from mud pit near River Raisin"  8*

Oh crap...I meant Puddin.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on August 10, 2014, 08:49:00 PM
Oh crap...I meant Puddin.

Oh - everyone knows where the Puddin Pit is.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 10, 2014, 09:30:37 PM
So what exactly happened to this girl and how/why did she wind up in Ecorse???  Inquiring minds would like to know.

Was it drug related or what???
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 11, 2014, 08:14:27 AM
If you're waiting for someone that was heading up 75 this morning you might as well go get a cup of coffee...   bad crash down around Bowling Green and they have both sides closed.  Sounds like they're opening it right now but the backup is miles long!  13ABC traffic cam is showing a backup at Perrysburg but I'm guessing it's the same one!!!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: livewire on August 11, 2014, 09:32:44 AM
So what exactly happened to this girl and how/why did she wind up in Ecorse???  Inquiring minds would like to know.

Was it drug related or what???

Sheriff is done with their investigation, and forwarding it on to the prosecutors office. 

Hopefully someone gets charged with filing a false police report, at least!!!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on August 11, 2014, 09:47:25 AM
Sheriff is done with their investigation, and forwarding it on to the prosecutors office. 

Hopefully someone gets charged with filing a false police report, at least!!!

Did she file a false police report?

She only fibbed to a friend.....

 ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Brian Beneteau on August 11, 2014, 09:58:50 AM
Did she file a false police report?

She only fibbed to a friend.....

 ;)
I'm sure that if charges are sought, that would be a great defense!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: rwwjr on August 11, 2014, 11:37:30 AM
Unless friend was in this too, covering for a clandestine meeting or something.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: excelsior on August 11, 2014, 11:59:23 AM

I wonder if Monroe county will file charges.

Ecorse police will pursue charges for false report in teen's abduction

ECORSE, Mich. - The Ecorse Police Department is pursuing charges in the case of an 18-year-old who falsely reported her abduction.

Detective Lt. Gregory Blade said he interviewed Hayley Turner after she was found Friday on a street corner in the city after allegedly being abducted the night before in her hometown of Bedford Township.

"There were a lot of questions that couldn’t be answered. I don’t think the young lady was being very truthful with me during the investigation," Blade said. "You don't get confused about telling the truth."

Police originally reported that Turner had been on the phone with a friend last Thursday night when she said she was being followed by a man who had a gun. Her car was found abandoned and still running at Crabb and Dean roads in Bedford Township. The following afternoon, Turner was found in Ecorse on a street corner.

"At no time was she in any danger," said Ecorse Police Chief Mike Moore. He added that someone "friendly" had been with Turner the whole time and the two were trying to get to Detroit, but their "calculations were off."

Moore wouldn't comment on who the person Turner was with, or if they would be facing any charges. Moore said his department would turn over its investigation to the Monroe County Sheriff's Office, which is spearheading the case. Charges could be issued in both Monroe County and Wayne County.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/ecorse-police-will-pursue-charges-for-false-report-in-teens-abduction/27408334 (http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/ecorse-police-will-pursue-charges-for-false-report-in-teens-abduction/27408334)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Skittelroo on August 11, 2014, 12:55:28 PM
http://m.clickondetroit.com/news/uncut-video-ecorse-police-on-hayley-turner-case/27408884 (http://m.clickondetroit.com/news/uncut-video-ecorse-police-on-hayley-turner-case/27408884)

15 minute interview with Ecorse detective.  (It stopped briefly on me @ 2 minutes, just let it run, it picks back up soon).  Apparently she told them the "abductors" gave her a puppy to keep her company;they drover her around to try to find where she was released. 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on August 11, 2014, 12:55:46 PM
http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26247394/topless-strippers-protest-outside-oh-church (http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26247394/topless-strippers-protest-outside-oh-church)


Oh WOW!  Some will have fun with this story! :)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 11, 2014, 01:08:13 PM
[url]http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26247394/topless-strippers-protest-outside-oh-church[/url] ([url]http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26247394/topless-strippers-protest-outside-oh-church[/url])


Oh WOW!  Some will have fun with this story! :)


Why can't everyone just get along ??? ??? ???

Here's a road map to Warsaw just in case anyone wants to go next Sunday ;) ;) ;)

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Monroe,+MI/Warsaw,+OH/@41.3077801,-83.5426743,8z/data= (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Monroe,+MI/Warsaw,+OH/@41.3077801,-83.5426743,8z/data=)!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x883b6fa6b2cc2bcd:0x1aff3b8ff9f0d231!2m2!1d-83.3977101!2d41.9164343!1m5!1m1!1s0x88379d0b7595d6df:0x1ba7001387d01955!2m2!1d-82.006807!2d40.3353465
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 11, 2014, 01:09:47 PM
[url]http://m.clickondetroit.com/news/uncut-video-ecorse-police-on-hayley-turner-case/27408884[/url] ([url]http://m.clickondetroit.com/news/uncut-video-ecorse-police-on-hayley-turner-case/27408884[/url])

15 minute interview with Ecorse detective.  (It stopped briefly on me @ 2 minutes, just let it run, it picks back up soon).  Apparently she told them the "abductors" gave her a puppy to keep her company;they drover her around to try to find where she was released.


Ahhh yes...

the old "do you want to pet my puppy little girl" routine :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 11, 2014, 11:43:47 PM
Ahhh yes...

the old "do you want to pet my puppy little girl" routine :-\ :-\ :-\

Pet your puppy and flog you dog are two entirely different things.... ;D ;D ;D

The whole thing gets stranger and stranger as the days roll on.....

She's either a pathological liar or a druggie or both and at some point, charges will be brought against her... and she deserves them.  She cost a couple communities some serious money in man hours.

Almost puts me in mind of being brought up in a home where punsihment was an option.

She needed her butt warmed a long time ago, and never got it.

I'm glad she's not my kid.  She really made her parents proud.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 12, 2014, 07:55:53 AM

Almost puts me in mind of being brought up in a home where punsihment was an option.

She needed her butt warmed a long time ago, and never got it.



She was raised with the best of everything.  She had just graduated from Notre Dame Academy (per the original news release) in Toledo which is an all girls high school. 

Her trip to the video store seems direct enough...  just a square mile away from home.  I've never heard the route she took to get there but no one has said that there seems to be any huge time gaps in her story before the 'abduction' occurred.  I' know her car had been moved away from the corner when it was found.  One news article interviewed a local hay baler who was working in the field so probably one of those fields about a half mile east of the corner but I didn't put it on my map because I'm not sure.

A is home
B is the video store
C is the corner where the so called abduction supposedly happened.  As you can see, a home on every corner and sure not where I would try to abduct someone (if I were into abducting the next unknown person that happened to stumble onto me):

http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=41.76742,-83.55457&z=15&t=H&marker0=41.77875%2C-83.54621%2C1.9%20km%20E%20of%20Temperance%20MI&marker1=41.76461%2C-83.56863%2C1.6%20km%20S%20of%20Temperance%20MI&marker2=41.76524%2C-83.54892%2C2.3%20km%20SE%20of%20Temperance%20MI (http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=41.76742,-83.55457&z=15&t=H&marker0=41.77875%2C-83.54621%2C1.9%20km%20E%20of%20Temperance%20MI&marker1=41.76461%2C-83.56863%2C1.6%20km%20S%20of%20Temperance%20MI&marker2=41.76524%2C-83.54892%2C2.3%20km%20SE%20of%20Temperance%20MI)

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on August 12, 2014, 09:40:50 AM
http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26249790/sons-of-guns-cast-member-arrested-charged-with-molestation-of-a-juvenile (http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26249790/sons-of-guns-cast-member-arrested-charged-with-molestation-of-a-juvenile)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on August 13, 2014, 10:09:06 AM
http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26250025/kansas-city-police-officer-challenges-kids-to-dance-off?clienttype=generic (http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26250025/kansas-city-police-officer-challenges-kids-to-dance-off?clienttype=generic)


Now we know what policemen do while not fighting fires! :)

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 13, 2014, 10:21:28 AM
[url]http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26250025/kansas-city-police-officer-challenges-kids-to-dance-off?clienttype=generic[/url] ([url]http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26250025/kansas-city-police-officer-challenges-kids-to-dance-off?clienttype=generic[/url])


Now we know what policemen do while not fighting fires! :)


Things are pretty quiet around Monroe this morning ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on August 13, 2014, 11:03:22 AM
Bedford Township Board proposing to assess property owners on the ave $75 a year for 5 years to fix the roads.
Bring up lots of questions.
I know the state doesn't contribute much but will they provide less then?
Will the MCRC have to do the work like previously stated?
Will they fix all the roads?
They can't fix yours but not mine if we all pay.
I don't mind paying my own way but others in Mich get this done without the residents paying.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 13, 2014, 11:16:33 AM
Bedford Township Board proposing to assess property owners on the ave $75 a year for 5 years to fix the roads.
Bring up lots of questions.
I know the state doesn't contribute much but will they provide less then?
Will the MCRC have to do the work like previously stated?
Will they fix all the roads?
They can't fix yours but not mine if we all pay.
I don't mind paying my own way but others in Mich get this done without the residents paying.

I know I'm paying way more than the extra $75/year for tires, struts, shocks, bent rims, rattling exhaust parts plus it takes me longer to driver everywhere I go...  of course just because they fix up Bedford doesn't mean you won't run into issues when you leave Bedford. 

Tough call I guess.  Those are all good questions btw. 

My guess is you'll end up paying that money to the township...

then in a year or two you'll pay about 4 times that to the county...

and then when the state gets all done kicking the can down the bumpy road you'll end up paying about 10 times that to them too :( :( :(
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 13, 2014, 02:31:07 PM
The big picture is broken.

Look at it this way.  If Bedford roads are all fixed and smooth, when you leave Bedford, the roads suck and and you are still destroying your vehicle, what good is fixing the local stuff?

What do you do, just drive around Bedford and never leave?  That's insane.

Like here, there is talk of putting a 4 mil assessment on the ballot for roads (already a mill) that makes a 5 mil assessment.  I'll vote against it because I have to leave Summerfield Township to do anything.  5 mils is a lot of Jack.

Fix the big picture, not the small one first.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on August 13, 2014, 02:46:57 PM
Bedford Township Board proposing to assess property owners on the ave $75 a year for 5 years to fix the roads.
Bring up lots of questions.
I know the state doesn't contribute much but will they provide less then?
Will the MCRC have to do the work like previously stated?
Will they fix all the roads?
They can't fix yours but not mine if we all pay.
I don't mind paying my own way but others in Mich get this done without the residents paying.

Pretty standard stuff in Cities Blue2 - everyone of them have part of their Millage go to Capital Improvements which includes fixing roads.

Many townships also already do this also.

I certainly hope Bedford finds a way to minimize the MCRC involvement in the funds.....  that will maximize their returns.  Just pick which roads to repair this year, bid them, and get them done - with the low approved bidders.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Maverick on August 13, 2014, 03:35:08 PM
This is proposed for the whole twp ? or just one subdivision ?
Likely the latter.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on August 13, 2014, 07:48:05 PM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/13/man-accused-dismembering-5-dogs-nevada-motel/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/13/man-accused-dismembering-5-dogs-nevada-motel/)


sick sick sick
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on August 13, 2014, 08:39:45 PM
MN,  I could be wrong but I've been told only the MCRC can work on the roads in Monroe county.  They may put the jobs out for bid but from what I understand Bedford cannot put this up for bid.
Governments take care of themselves.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 13, 2014, 09:24:14 PM
MN,  I could be wrong but I've been told only the MCRC can work on the roads in Monroe county.  They may put the jobs out for bid but from what I understand Bedford cannot put this up for bid.
Governments take care of themselves.

In essence I think you are.  I know our township did a couple roads this summer (Syl-Petersburg) and Ida West and we bid the jobs out ourselves.  Had to have MCRC permission but they conceded to it.  So, I'd say sometimes but not all the time.

I don't know all the particulars but it was done.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Maverick on August 14, 2014, 12:02:59 AM
MN,  I could be wrong but I've been told only the MCRC can work on the roads in Monroe county.  They may put the jobs out for bid but from what I understand Bedford cannot put this up for bid.
Governments take care of themselves.
That policy has been changed and twps can now bid out their own work with some limitations.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 14, 2014, 06:51:13 AM
[url]http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26247394/topless-strippers-protest-outside-oh-church[/url] ([url]http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26247394/topless-strippers-protest-outside-oh-church[/url])


Oh WOW!  Some will have fun with this story! :)


Just saw another report about this 'protest' on NBC24 Toledo news...  A quick Google search shows the story has gone international.  This tiny little strip club in Warsaw Ohio has suddenly become infamous around the world!  They were interviewing the pastor of the church and he says the club is raunchier than anything in San Francisco or New York...   I'm not sure how he knows unless he has been 'observing' at all these various clubs :-\ :-\ :-\  My guess is all this 'free' publicity will have the club packed every night ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on August 14, 2014, 07:10:41 AM
That policy has been changed and twps can now bid out their own work with some limitations.

Have they changed the specs that roads are built up to?

That seems to be the major issue - poor foundations, which lead to roads only lasting a short time.

Just saw another report about this 'protest' on NBC24 Toledo news...  A quick Google search shows the story has gone international.  This tiny little strip club in Warsaw Ohio has suddenly become infamous around the world!  They were interviewing the pastor of the church and he says the club is raunchier than anything in San Francisco or New York...   I'm not sure how he knows unless he has been 'observing' at all these various clubs :-\ :-\ :-\  My guess is all this 'free' publicity will have the club packed every night ;) ;) ;)
Well you know what they say in other states...   "Show me"
I'm thinking that seeing would make a believer of some
Funny how a town of 600 can garner this attention
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 14, 2014, 10:07:57 AM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/09/peeping-tom-newport-steals-bra/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/09/peeping-tom-newport-steals-bra/[/url])


Move the hamper ladies! :)


Looks like this moron from Mawnroe has made the bigtime:

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/video-peeping-tom-steals-bra/27462918 (http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/video-peeping-tom-steals-bra/27462918)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 14, 2014, 02:57:27 PM
Just saw another report about this 'protest' on NBC24 Toledo news...  A quick Google search shows the story has gone international.  This tiny little strip club in Warsaw Ohio has suddenly become infamous around the world!  They were interviewing the pastor of the church and he says the club is raunchier than anything in San Francisco or New York...   I'm not sure how he knows unless he has been 'observing' at all these various clubs :-\ :-\ :-\  My guess is all this 'free' publicity will have the club packed every night ;) ;) ;)

I'd be willing to bet that the 'good pastor' is a regular customer that was snubbed by one of the gals and now he's pi**ed and getting even.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 15, 2014, 08:32:16 AM
I'd be willing to bet that the 'good pastor' is a regular customer that was snubbed by one of the gals and now he's pi**ed and getting even.

Today I don't doubt anything ;) ;) ;)

Looks like another slow news day so far ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on August 15, 2014, 06:08:26 PM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/15/monroe-police-surround-home-gunman/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/15/monroe-police-surround-home-gunman/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 16, 2014, 08:11:33 AM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/15/monroe-police-surround-home-gunman/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/15/monroe-police-surround-home-gunman/[/url])


Rather than Custer's last stand this may go down as the 'last stand' on Custer ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on August 16, 2014, 08:18:36 AM
I read that last night and had a good chuckle.

I'm about 45 minutes away from Fergeson, MO where the news media is 24/7 on the unrest there.  Not sure who is stirring up more emotion more.....Al Sharpton or the media.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on August 16, 2014, 08:27:20 AM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/15/monroe-police-surround-home-gunman/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/15/monroe-police-surround-home-gunman/[/url])

Good news is they didn't shoot him...  or we'd have more riots going on
like the one in Adrian

I read that last night and had a good chuckle.

I'm about 45 minutes away from Fergeson, MO where the news media is 24/7 on the unrest there.  Not sure who is stirring up more emotion more.....Al Sharpton or the media.

Sounds like they were looking for an excuse to riot as I'm sure the rioters didn't even know the people involved -
To bad they haven't declared Marshal law - and then store owners could defend their property
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on August 16, 2014, 08:38:17 AM
The news down here this morning is that many residents from Ferguson stood guard outside of stores driving away out of the area people coming down to participate in the looting.

It's really crazy.....the Governor ordered the National Guard and local LE to pull back as it was thought the military appearance of those forces were inciting it even more.  It's truly a mess here.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 16, 2014, 08:40:01 AM

Sounds like they were looking for an excuse to riot as I'm sure the rioters didn't even know the people involved -
To bad they haven't declared Marshal law - and then store owners could defend their property

Since the state police moved in things have quieted right down.  Lots and lots of stories coming out now about past police abuse from that department.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on August 16, 2014, 08:49:26 AM
Maybe the Firefighters should take over...   ;D

I can see it now - the Feds will step in, and you'll see the top leaders all looking for new jobs soon.   

The looters and Rioters will think they "Won" - and will hold that trump card for future use
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 16, 2014, 08:57:15 AM
And then some days truth is even stranger than fiction:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/16/us-marshals-capture-fugitive-fighter-war-machine/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/16/us-marshals-capture-fugitive-fighter-war-machine/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on August 16, 2014, 09:44:36 AM
http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26294875/mr-t-pities-criminals-as-he-awaits-jury-duty?clienttype=generic (http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26294875/mr-t-pities-criminals-as-he-awaits-jury-duty?clienttype=generic)


Now for some really important news!   8*
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: nails on August 16, 2014, 02:29:25 PM
The news down here this morning is that many residents from Ferguson stood guard outside of stores driving away out of the area people coming down to participate in the looting.

It's really crazy.....the Governor ordered the National Guard and local LE to pull back as it was thought the military appearance of those forces were inciting it even more.  It's truly a mess here.

Let's see....
 
  * Showing the video of the pair robbing and strong arming the store owner is character assassination? 
On the contrary, I think it shows his character quite clearly.

 * This BIG guy is questioned immediately after the robbery while holding a pack of cigars,
 which was the object of the robbery that just took place nearby.
Realizing he's about to be connected to the robbery,
the BIG guy tries to access the police officers gun,
and the officer, fearing what would happen if his prisoner gains control of the gun,
stops him by shooting him.
Seems fair to me considering the disparity of force and the struggle for the officers weapon.

  * The main witness for the BIG dead guy, is his accomplice in the robbery.
   Yeah right.  No reason for him to twist the facts is there.


Sorry. I have no sympathy for lawbreakers who won't comply with police commands,
and who try to access the officers weapon.
Not complying may not be grounds for shooting someone,
but going after the officers weapon is a whole different ball game.


Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 16, 2014, 04:17:16 PM
Since the state police moved in things have quieted right down.  Lots and lots of stories coming out now about past police abuse from that department.

Substantiated stories or whining?  I bet the latter.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 16, 2014, 04:52:13 PM
Substantiated stories or whining?  I bet the latter.

Usually it takes time to tell which is which :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on August 16, 2014, 06:39:48 PM
If you can believe the police chief and mayor they have said they have tried to recruit African Americans to become policeman but they are interested in putting in the effort
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Frenchfry on August 16, 2014, 10:38:43 PM
Let's see....
 
  * Showing the video of the pair robbing and strong arming the store owner is character assassination? 
On the contrary, I think it shows his character quite clearly.

 * This BIG guy is questioned immediately after the robbery while holding a pack of cigars,
 which was the object of the robbery that just took place nearby.
Realizing he's about to be connected to the robbery,
the BIG guy tries to access the police officers gun,
and the officer, fearing what would happen if his prisoner gains control of the gun,
stops him by shooting him.
Seems fair to me considering the disparity of force and the struggle for the officers weapon.

  * The main witness for the BIG dead guy, is his accomplice in the robbery.
   Yeah right.  No reason for him to twist the facts is there.


Sorry. I have no sympathy for lawbreakers who won't comply with police commands,
and who try to access the officers weapon.
Not complying may not be grounds for shooting someone,
but going after the officers weapon is a whole different ball game.
The officer who shot Brown didn't know he was a robbery suspect.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/16/doj-robbery-video-michael-brown-ferguson_n_5684654.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/16/doj-robbery-video-michael-brown-ferguson_n_5684654.html)

Asked why Wilson stopped Brown, the police chief said because Brown and his friend "were walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic."
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/08/15/340594634/ferguson-police-release-name-of-officer-who-shot-michael-brown (http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/08/15/340594634/ferguson-police-release-name-of-officer-who-shot-michael-brown)

Ferguson police chief: Officer didn't stop Brown as robbery suspect
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/15/us/missouri-teen-shooting/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/15/us/missouri-teen-shooting/index.html)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 16, 2014, 10:44:18 PM
If you can believe the police chief and mayor they have said they have tried to recruit African Americans to become policeman but they are (not) interested in putting in the effort

Nothing new there and very believeable.  Same scenario where I work.  AA's are a minority simply because they either don't want to work, can't pass a drug screen or both.

Fact of life.  Fact od entitlement.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Frenchfry on August 16, 2014, 10:53:13 PM
Nothing new there and very believeable.  Same scenario where I work.  AA's are a minority simply because they either don't want to work, can't pass a drug screen or both.

Fact of life.  Fact od entitlement.
Just wanted to capture your ignorant racist mindset for posterity.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Frenchfry on August 16, 2014, 11:22:18 PM
Decades long trend of police militarization now in the spotlight

The militarization of local law enforcement is not a new trend. Since 1990, Congress has authorized the Pentagon to transfer Defense Department equipment to federal and state agencies, while local SWAT and police agencies received mine-resistant vehicles, assault rifles and even grenade launchers. Several former high-ranking police officials have come out against the practice, including Stephen Downing of the LAPD, who discusses the issue with RT’s Ameera David.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOvLLjDcb5Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOvLLjDcb5Q#)

===

Cuss warning:

Getting A Military Vehicle Is Shockingly Simple

"Images of police outfitted in paramilitary gear clashing with protesters in suburban St. Louis are giving new impetus to efforts to rein in a Pentagon program that provides free machine guns and other surplus military equipment to local law enforcement agencies.

Rep. Hank Johnson, D-Ga., says he plans to introduce legislation when Congress returns in September to curb what he describes as an increasing militarization of police agencies across the country. Police responding to protesters angry about the weekend shooting death of an unarmed black teenager in Ferguson, Missouri, wore riot gear and deployed tear gas, dogs and armored vehicles.

“Our Main Streets should be a place for business, families and relaxation, not tanks and M16s,” Johnson said Thursday.“

Getting A Military Vehicle Is Shockingly Simple (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnvJZRZ0dFE&index=3&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ#)

===

Ferguson tragedy: Police militarization on display

The police shooting and killing of unarmed African-American teenager Michael Brown has made Ferguson, MO known worldwide as citizens continue defying heavily armed police to protect their rights. Although the details of the initial incident remain murky, the tragedy has thrust the issues of racial disparity, police militarization and media portrayals of minorities into the mainstream’s attention, and no one knows what will happen next.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pT2oVvoijw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pT2oVvoijw#)

===

Police militarization making headlines after years of neglect by MSM

Police militarization is not confined to only Ferguson, MO, and despite the lack of mainstream attention, has continued growing for years. As the country wakes to the dangers of equipping local law enforcement with military-grade weapons and vehicles, heavily armed SWAT forces and ordinary officers carrying heavy weaponry are now being scrutinized by the media and the public. John Whitehead, president of The Rutherford Institute, speaks to RT’s Ameera David to provide background on the trend.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpPAf5AbsMs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpPAf5AbsMs#)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 17, 2014, 08:42:30 AM
This is probably not a real big surprise:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/16/alana-wilson-crowned-miss-monroe/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/16/alana-wilson-crowned-miss-monroe/)

(http://monroenews.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2014/08/16/MISSMONROE1_t670.jpg?b3f6a5d7692ccc373d56e40cf708e3fa67d9af9d)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 17, 2014, 12:33:13 PM
Bedford Township Board proposing to assess property owners on the ave $75 a year for 5 years to fix the roads.
Bring up lots of questions.
I know the state doesn't contribute much but will they provide less then?
Will the MCRC have to do the work like previously stated?
Will they fix all the roads?
They can't fix yours but not mine if we all pay.
I don't mind paying my own way but others in Mich get this done without the residents paying.


This is proposed for the whole twp ? or just one subdivision ?
Likely the latter.



It's for the whole township according to this article:

http://www.bedfordnow.com/news/2014/aug/13/bedford-considers-special-assessment-roads/ (http://www.bedfordnow.com/news/2014/aug/13/bedford-considers-special-assessment-roads/)

Interesting they're handling it as an 'assessment' as opposed to additional millage...

additional millage would require it to be voter approved by the public  (that's been pretty rare in Bedford for anything the last few years)...

so, the single Mom in the $40K house with one car ends up paying the same as the the well to do family in the $700K house with a pole barn full of vehicles 8* 8* 8*

And if it turns out to not be very popular during the public hearings then the board can vote it in anyway ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 17, 2014, 12:36:09 PM
Just wanted to capture your ignorant racist mindset for posterity.

Glad you appreciate my observations.  I didn't cause it and I can't do anythying about it.  It is what it is.

I take it you can't pass a drug screen either? ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on August 17, 2014, 12:39:17 PM
Holder is injecting himself into the shooting of the punk kid in Mo. 
Anything smells like racist and Holder will be there.  What a clown
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 17, 2014, 12:41:57 PM
Decades long trend of police militarization now in the spotlight

The militarization of local law enforcement is not a new trend. Since 1990, Congress has authorized the Pentagon to transfer Defense Department equipment to federal and state agencies, while local SWAT and police agencies received mine-resistant vehicles, assault rifles and even grenade launchers. Several former high-ranking police officials have come out against the practice, including Stephen Downing of the LAPD, who discusses the issue with RT’s Ameera David.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOvLLjDcb5Q]www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOvLLjDcb5Q[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOvLLjDcb5Q#[/url])

===

Cuss warning:

Getting A Military Vehicle Is Shockingly Simple

"Images of police outfitted in paramilitary gear clashing with protesters in suburban St. Louis are giving new impetus to efforts to rein in a Pentagon program that provides free machine guns and other surplus military equipment to local law enforcement agencies.

Rep. Hank Johnson, D-Ga., says he plans to introduce legislation when Congress returns in September to curb what he describes as an increasing militarization of police agencies across the country. Police responding to protesters angry about the weekend shooting death of an unarmed black teenager in Ferguson, Missouri, wore riot gear and deployed tear gas, dogs and armored vehicles.

“Our Main Streets should be a place for business, families and relaxation, not tanks and M16s,” Johnson said Thursday.“

Getting A Military Vehicle Is Shockingly Simple ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnvJZRZ0dFE&index=3&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ#[/url])

===

Ferguson tragedy: Police militarization on display

The police shooting and killing of unarmed African-American teenager Michael Brown has made Ferguson, MO known worldwide as citizens continue defying heavily armed police to protect their rights. Although the details of the initial incident remain murky, the tragedy has thrust the issues of racial disparity, police militarization and media portrayals of minorities into the mainstream’s attention, and no one knows what will happen next.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pT2oVvoijw]www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pT2oVvoijw[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pT2oVvoijw#[/url])

===

Police militarization making headlines after years of neglect by MSM

Police militarization is not confined to only Ferguson, MO, and despite the lack of mainstream attention, has continued growing for years. As the country wakes to the dangers of equipping local law enforcement with military-grade weapons and vehicles, heavily armed SWAT forces and ordinary officers carrying heavy weaponry are now being scrutinized by the media and the public. John Whitehead, president of The Rutherford Institute, speaks to RT’s Ameera David to provide background on the trend.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpPAf5AbsMs]www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpPAf5AbsMs[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpPAf5AbsMs#[/url])


It's all part of your Hero's (King Obama) plan to reign in the citizens, eliminate rights and impose serfdom.

You know, the guy you worship....  He's stuffing it right up your posterior.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 17, 2014, 12:43:53 PM
Holder is injecting himself into the shooting of the punk kid in Mo. 
Anything smells like racist and Holder will be there.  What a clown

I wonder if he's related to the other 2.  The 3 Stooges....  Al, Jessie and Eric.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Maverick on August 17, 2014, 12:49:20 PM
It's for the whole township according to this article:

[url]http://www.bedfordnow.com/news/2014/aug/13/bedford-considers-special-assessment-roads/[/url] ([url]http://www.bedfordnow.com/news/2014/aug/13/bedford-considers-special-assessment-roads/[/url])

Interesting they're handling it as an 'assessment' as opposed to additional millage...

additional millage would require it to be voter approved by the public  (that's been pretty rare in Bedford for anything the last few years)...

so, the single Mom in the $40K house with one car ends up paying the same as the the well to do family in the $700K house with a pole barn full of vehicles 8* 8* 8*

And if it turns out to not be very popular during the public hearings then the board can vote it in anyway ;) ;) ;)

Yes I saw the article.
Special assessments are getting more common because the threshold to stop them is hard to accomplish.
It takes written protest by 20% of the properties in the district to legally stop the creation of the district. Not many people or groups will attempt that and the twp certainly isn't going to announce how to stop the process.
It's a back door way to get money that the twp knows they wouldn't get any other way.
After the district is created you can also appeal it to the tax tribunal but there isn't much chance the entire district would be voided just maybe the property assessment that you appeal.
If they want to stop it they should circulate petitions objecting to it right now.

Mav
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 17, 2014, 12:58:02 PM
Yes I saw the article.
Special assessments are getting more common because the threshold to stop them is hard to accomplish.
It takes written protest by 20% of the properties in the district to legally stop the creation of the district. Not many people or groups will attempt that and the twp certainly isn't going to announce how to stop the process.
It's a back door way to get money that the twp knows they wouldn't get any other way.
After the district is created you can also appeal it to the tax tribunal but there isn't much chance the entire district would be voided just maybe the property assessment that you appeal.
If they want to stop it they should circulate petitions objecting to it right now.

Mav

I was aware that an assessment could be appealed on a one by one scenario.  In this case the $75 most likely isn't enough to make an appeal worthwhile though. 

It will be interesting to see if other townships attempt this type of an 'end run' :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Maverick on August 17, 2014, 01:01:34 PM
Several that I know of have already done it for fire protection. Exeter is in the process now and Raisinville passed there's several years ago.
Same statute. Same threshold for stopping it from happening.

Mav
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 17, 2014, 01:07:15 PM
Several that I know of have already done it for fire protection. Exeter is in the process now and Raisinville passed there's several years ago.
Same statute. Same threshold for stopping it from happening.

Mav

For the most part voters are usually happy to pay for fire protection.  We've never had any issue passing a millage for it and I'm not aware of many in the area that have unless they just plain got too greedy.

Roads definitely seem to fall under "we're already paying enough" though... 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Maverick on August 17, 2014, 02:11:41 PM
Roads: Less people would object to additional funding for roads if they were confident it would be spent wisely. Not a chance of that with the current road commission. I wouldn't support a millage or special assessment unless it was with the provision that the road commission received zero dollars of the money.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on August 17, 2014, 02:25:24 PM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/17/kroger-gas-station-moving-forward/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/17/kroger-gas-station-moving-forward/)

So they are tearing down a portion of the south end of the shopping center to put in a gas station...   must be a good profit in gas to lose that much space for retail?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on August 17, 2014, 07:48:27 PM
http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2014/08/kids_parade_through_local_stre.html#incart_river (http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2014/08/kids_parade_through_local_stre.html#incart_river)

One of Monroe's former firefighters who was laid off in the police takeover was fortunate enough to relocated  and find a job in Memphis TN,  stayed with his passion and brought kids from that area affected to this years camp.

Nice story about the Great Lakes Burn Camp that just adjourned.

Here's the camp website as well   http://greatlakesburncamp.org/ (http://greatlakesburncamp.org/)
=============================================
KALAMAZOO, MI – Lenore Hollingsworth, a 16-year-old from Memphis, Tenn., was all smiles as she climbed aboard a Fabius Park Township fire engine at Wings Stadium on Saturday afternoon and headed to Pretty Lake Vacation Camp in Mattawan.

Hollingsworth, along with nearly 70 other children between the ages of 6 and 17 from across the country, started a week of activities at the 20th annual Great Lakes Burn Camp after parading through local streets aboard fire engines and rescue vehicles.

The procession of 40 fire engines and rescue vehicles from communities throughout Southwest Michigan was flanked in the front and rear by more than 250 motorcycles that escorted the children to the camp.

Nestled in the cab of the bright red fire engine from Fabius Park Township, Hollingsworth swapped stories with firefighters, waved to people along the way and worked the vehicle's siren.

"I thought it was really cool," she said. "It felt good to ride in the truck. They let me work the siren. We mostly waved to people along the way. It was awesome."

Driving that fire engine and returning to volunteer with the parade for his sixth year was firefighter Brian Murphy, a veteran with more than 20 years of firefighting service under his belt.

Taking the opportunity to give back to children that they protect, Murphy said that participating in this event is something that he cherishes for a variety of reasons.

"It's one of the most touching events," Murphy said. "It's a great thing for the kids, it's all about them. It's our chance to give back to them. It means everything to me."

After arriving at the camp, the children will spend the next week partaking in activities ranging from water skiing, arts and crafts, a drive-in movie night and a fireworks display, camp director Mike Longenecker said.

Near the end of camp, all of the children will be given backpacks filled with school supplies for the upcoming school year, he said.

In addition to activities that the children will participate in during the course of the next week, Longenecker said that the fact that all of the children at the camp have something in common increases the bond that campers have with one another.

"All the kids have the same thing in common," he said. "They've all been through the tragedy of being burned. They're still kids and they need to be treated like that."

The Great Lakes Burn Camp is made possible each year by donations and through the tireless work of the organization's volunteer staff, in addition to support from the community, Longenecker said. This year alone, 20 of the camp's staff members were former campers, he said.

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: ducksoup on August 17, 2014, 08:26:02 PM
[url]http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2014/08/kids_parade_through_local_stre.html#incart_river[/url] ([url]http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2014/08/kids_parade_through_local_stre.html#incart_river[/url])

One of Monroe's former firefighters who was laid off in the police takeover was fortunate enough to relocated  and find a job in Memphis TN,  stayed with his passion and brought kids from that area affected to this years camp.

Nice story about the Great Lakes Burn Camp that just adjourned.

Here's the camp website as well   [url]http://greatlakesburncamp.org/[/url] ([url]http://greatlakesburncamp.org/[/url])
=============================================
KALAMAZOO, MI – Lenore Hollingsworth, a 16-year-old from Memphis, Tenn., was all smiles as she climbed aboard a Fabius Park Township fire engine at Wings Stadium on Saturday afternoon and headed to Pretty Lake Vacation Camp in Mattawan.

Hollingsworth, along with nearly 70 other children between the ages of 6 and 17 from across the country, started a week of activities at the 20th annual Great Lakes Burn Camp after parading through local streets aboard fire engines and rescue vehicles.

The procession of 40 fire engines and rescue vehicles from communities throughout Southwest Michigan was flanked in the front and rear by more than 250 motorcycles that escorted the children to the camp.

Nestled in the cab of the bright red fire engine from Fabius Park Township, Hollingsworth swapped stories with firefighters, waved to people along the way and worked the vehicle's siren.

"I thought it was really cool," she said. "It felt good to ride in the truck. They let me work the siren. We mostly waved to people along the way. It was awesome."

Driving that fire engine and returning to volunteer with the parade for his sixth year was firefighter Brian Murphy, a veteran with more than 20 years of firefighting service under his belt.

Taking the opportunity to give back to children that they protect, Murphy said that participating in this event is something that he cherishes for a variety of reasons.

"It's one of the most touching events," Murphy said. "It's a great thing for the kids, it's all about them. It's our chance to give back to them. It means everything to me."

After arriving at the camp, the children will spend the next week partaking in activities ranging from water skiing, arts and crafts, a drive-in movie night and a fireworks display, camp director Mike Longenecker said.

Near the end of camp, all of the children will be given backpacks filled with school supplies for the upcoming school year, he said.

In addition to activities that the children will participate in during the course of the next week, Longenecker said that the fact that all of the children at the camp have something in common increases the bond that campers have with one another.

"All the kids have the same thing in common," he said. "They've all been through the tragedy of being burned. They're still kids and they need to be treated like that."

The Great Lakes Burn Camp is made possible each year by donations and through the tireless work of the organization's volunteer staff, in addition to support from the community, Longenecker said. This year alone, 20 of the camp's staff members were former campers, he said.


Nice story, thanks.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 18, 2014, 09:29:53 AM
It must have been an absolute zoo this morning in Monroe...

and make sure you buckle up and stash your cell phone because they're also running seat belt enforcement in an area I'll just leave as 'undisclosed'!

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/18/train-blocks-traffic-front-st-and-dunbar-rd/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/18/train-blocks-traffic-front-st-and-dunbar-rd/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Tiny on August 18, 2014, 09:45:04 PM
The crew working on N. Monroe St. has knocked it down to two lanes from Stewart Rd to Nadeau Rd. They changed the lights at Nadeau Rd. to a short cycle allowing North bound traffic to go while Southbound waits. Then Southbound goes while North bound waits, then finally Nadeau Rd goes. Traffic was backed up from Nadeau Rd. all the way back almost to Hurd Rd. I waited 10 minutes to get through the light at N. Monroe and Nadeau Rds.

Nadeau Rd gets backed up also waiting to turn on N. Monroe St.

Front St was bumper to bumper this afternoon I guess because of all the railroad crossings being closed.

BTW they already have barrels back out and tearing up the new road on S. Monroe St between Fourth and Fifth today. Never fails.

It's miserable getting around town lately.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 18, 2014, 10:58:49 PM
Glad I never drive up that way.  However, Friday night I sat a good 45 minutes on the OTPK at the 110 mile post while they fiddled with the road.  It's too bad that you have to pay a toll to be marooned in nowheresville for 45 minutes.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on August 19, 2014, 08:06:29 AM
http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26307388/family-says-hate-crime (http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26307388/family-says-hate-crime)


Different state, more hate.  :-\
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on August 19, 2014, 08:06:59 AM

BTW they already have barrels back out and tearing up the new road on S. Monroe St between Fourth and Fifth today. Never fails.


Unless it was some "emergency" - that entity should be fined for not doing the work when the road was torn up...   that section will always be a bump in the road now

never could figure out why some coordination couldn't be set up when a project is that big and than long in the works.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 19, 2014, 08:42:17 AM
The crew working on N. Monroe St. has knocked it down to two lanes from Stewart Rd to Nadeau Rd. They changed the lights at Nadeau Rd. to a short cycle allowing North bound traffic to go while Southbound waits. Then Southbound goes while North bound waits, then finally Nadeau Rd goes. Traffic was backed up from Nadeau Rd. all the way back almost to Hurd Rd. I waited 10 minutes to get through the light at N. Monroe and Nadeau Rds.

Nadeau Rd gets backed up also waiting to turn on N. Monroe St.

Front St was bumper to bumper this afternoon I guess because of all the railroad crossings being closed.

BTW they already have barrels back out and tearing up the new road on S. Monroe St between Fourth and Fifth today. Never fails.

It's miserable getting around town lately.

We saw that yesterday afternoon.  They've removed a piece that looks just about square.  It's the entire right hand lane.  Looks like they've done some underground excavation there because there was some dirt and old bricks piled up by the curb.  Maybe an old storm water catch basin?  Now it's all fresh concrete 'base' down under there and it looks like they're probably just waiting for the concrete to cure before they 'patch' the road back. 

As the Professor noted that 'bump will always be there to remind the world of someone's 'oops' :o :o :o  I remember when they did south Dixie several years back.  They hadn't put the final striped down yet and 'somebody' had to make about a 5x5 opening in the new pavement right at the curb.  I think that's the side of the street the sewer line is on (it was just south of Allen Chevrolet and on that side).  To this day I 'feel' that 'plunk' every time we go through there.

BTW...  the area of this newest patch is the same area I mentioned in the S. Monroe Street thread that there was a noticeable 'dip' in the road after they put the first coat of asphalt down and switched the driving to the west side.  If this is actually one of those dippy doos I felt back then there very well may be one or even two more of them they'll have to fix (now or in the next few years) :o :o :o

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 19, 2014, 09:01:59 AM
Oh the irony:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/19/wayne-county-prosecutors-car-radio-stolen-_-again/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/19/wayne-county-prosecutors-car-radio-stolen-_-again/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 19, 2014, 10:34:06 AM
We were routed off Telegraph during this incident last night.  Hopefully we'll get more details today.  I kind of wonder since she is from Tecumseh if maybe she was trying to find a way across the county to get back to the west side of the county and avoid the road construction on M-151 which would be a typical east to west route for someone going that way.  Maybe was looking at her GPS and not paying as close attention as she should have been.  The 'drop' after you cross the tracks is quite steep right there and if you're not paying close attention it can easily send a vehicle out into oncoming traffic.  And of all things to get hit by...  not anything built much more solid than a wrecker!!!

Wishing comfort for her family and friends.  This is the third young person from Tecumseh to die in an auto related crash in just a few weeks.

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/18/woman-killed-afternoon-crash/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/18/woman-killed-afternoon-crash/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 19, 2014, 10:48:43 AM
I saw this in the paper last night after I'd heard the crash on Telegraph earlier had been a fatal.  Thought it was ironic...   this one a year ago was at the next road crossing south of the one yesterday.  We drove onto this one too although it's in the stretch of Telegraph that's divided.  We were heading south so the road was still open.  All emergency services were already there and the vehicles really didn't look that bad.  I was surprised to hear later that it had been a fatal crash.


http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/19/driver-receives-probation-fines-fatal-crash/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/19/driver-receives-probation-fines-fatal-crash/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on August 19, 2014, 02:14:03 PM
http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26317786/patrol-136000-worth-of-heroin-found-stashed-under-cars-air-filter (http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26317786/patrol-136000-worth-of-heroin-found-stashed-under-cars-air-filter)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 19, 2014, 03:22:11 PM
We were routed off Telegraph during this incident last night.  Hopefully we'll get more details today.  I kind of wonder since she is from Tecumseh if maybe she was trying to find a way across the county to get back to the west side of the county and avoid the road construction on M-151 which would be a typical east to west route for someone going that way.  Maybe was looking at her GPS and not paying as close attention as she should have been.  The 'drop' after you cross the tracks is quite steep right there and if you're not paying close attention it can easily send a vehicle out into oncoming traffic.  And of all things to get hit by...  not anything built much more solid than a wrecker!!!

Wishing comfort for her family and friends.  This is the third young person from Tecumseh to die in an auto related crash in just a few weeks.

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/18/woman-killed-afternoon-crash/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/18/woman-killed-afternoon-crash/[/url])


My wife drove home this way today. 

She says you can see the wrecker's tracks curve right across Telegraph and onto the shoulder by Lecklers'.  She said it looks just like when the semi crossed all 4 lanes of Telegraph and hit the van a couple of months ago :( :( :(
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on August 20, 2014, 06:45:16 AM
http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26323708/monroe-county-deputies-investigating-armed-gas-station-robbery (http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26323708/monroe-county-deputies-investigating-armed-gas-station-robbery)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 20, 2014, 08:22:06 AM
[url]http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26323708/monroe-county-deputies-investigating-armed-gas-station-robbery[/url] ([url]http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26323708/monroe-county-deputies-investigating-armed-gas-station-robbery[/url])


I'm surprised that station doesn't get robbed more often that it does.  It sits way 'out of town' by itself and always looks so dark other than the lights over the pumps.  It may become more popular now that they've re-paved Lewis Avenue most of the way from Toledo :o :o :o
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 20, 2014, 08:46:58 AM
[url]http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26317786/patrol-136000-worth-of-heroin-found-stashed-under-cars-air-filter[/url] ([url]http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26317786/patrol-136000-worth-of-heroin-found-stashed-under-cars-air-filter[/url])


About 90% of these people hauling this stuff end up getting stopped for something like speeding and then get all nervous...   along comes the drug sniffing dog and "busted"!!!

I would think if I were so inclined to be involved in this type of venture that I'd check my vehicle over before I left.  Kind of like the UPS drivers...    they might have been driving the same truck for 3 years but every morning they have to do a walk around safety inspection. 

And then I'd drive 5 under instead of 10 over...

sounds like this guy will have plenty of time to sort out what he 'could have done' ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 20, 2014, 10:49:51 AM
Info on the alleged robber at the Ida BP station:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/20/ida-bp-robbed/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/20/ida-bp-robbed/)

(http://monroenews.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2014/08/20/1473008_265066837017675_462405677652492042_n.jpg)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 20, 2014, 01:05:09 PM
Could that be.........................Skippy?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 20, 2014, 01:06:57 PM
About 90% of these people hauling this stuff end up getting stopped for something like speeding and then get all nervous...   along comes the drug sniffing dog and "busted"!!!

I would think if I were so inclined to be involved in this type of venture that I'd check my vehicle over before I left.  Kind of like the UPS drivers...    they might have been driving the same truck for 3 years but every morning they have to do a walk around safety inspection. 

And then I'd drive 5 under instead of 10 over...

sounds like this guy will have plenty of time to sort out what he 'could have done' ;) ;) ;)

Most, not all.  I know who runs their compliance department.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on August 21, 2014, 07:06:11 AM
http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26334002/several-arrested-after-shooting-outside-downtown-toledo-strip-club (http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26334002/several-arrested-after-shooting-outside-downtown-toledo-strip-club)


Someone better knock on the door at the fuzz household and make sure he's alright.   8*
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on August 21, 2014, 07:49:23 AM
I'm ok, I was inside just coming out of one of the private rooms when shots were fired.   ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on August 21, 2014, 07:53:33 AM
LOL  You always make me laugh!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on August 21, 2014, 08:19:31 AM
I'm sure that a few times over my lifetime that "distractions" kept me from being in the wrong place at the wrong time.   ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on August 21, 2014, 08:58:45 AM
Gentleman's Club...   They have those downtown?   ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on August 21, 2014, 07:46:37 PM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/21/prison-time-utah-woman-charged-baby-sitter-death/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/21/prison-time-utah-woman-charged-baby-sitter-death/)


We sure live in a sick, sick world.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on August 21, 2014, 08:02:51 PM
Friend txted me this morning. This happened across the street from him. Last night young kid was riding bike around streets in East Toledo pointing a BB gun at people.  Starr Broadway area.  Yeah, nice place.
Cops showed up followed him home.  Kid ran in house locked door.
Cops knocked then busted door down.  Dragged kid out in cuffs and waited for parents.  Probably had to call them with his obama phone.  See they are good for something.  Parents come in and go off on cops.
Today kid comes home and gets in trouble again.  Cops back just now.  Dad and brother intervene.  Big cop throws dad to ground and takes all 3 to jail.
Yes it is a sick world.  A lot of people with no respect.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on August 21, 2014, 08:39:54 PM
When I grew up - the "kid" who got in trouble - was in even more trouble when the parents came home... 

Parents defending their kids when they are in trouble - only send the message that it's okay to do whatever you did.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on August 21, 2014, 08:56:37 PM
and then al sharpton tells kids cops are picking on them
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on August 21, 2014, 09:12:31 PM
The "Root Cause" of many of the issues in this country is the break down of the Family Unit.

Parents - or far more typically a parent or sometimes NO ONE barking at teachers and cops when their kids terrorize classrooms and neighborhoods is just one symptom of that this is the case.

Parents used to teach their kids to RESPECT the authorities.

Now they teach them to disrespect them.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 22, 2014, 07:59:38 AM
It appears being a great football player doesn't necessarily make one even a decent cop:

http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/08/oklahoma_city_police_officer_daniel_holtzclaw_sexual_assault_emu.html (http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/08/oklahoma_city_police_officer_daniel_holtzclaw_sexual_assault_emu.html)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 22, 2014, 08:40:36 AM
[url]http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26334002/several-arrested-after-shooting-outside-downtown-toledo-strip-club[/url] ([url]http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26334002/several-arrested-after-shooting-outside-downtown-toledo-strip-club[/url])


Someone better knock on the door at the fuzz household and make sure he's alright.   8*


Nothing like a good pole dancing competition to bring out the worst in some people:

http://m.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2014/08/22/Pole-dancing-contest-turns-deadly-at-club.html (http://m.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2014/08/22/Pole-dancing-contest-turns-deadly-at-club.html)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on August 22, 2014, 05:55:25 PM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/22/man-found-unconscious-downtown-monroe/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/22/man-found-unconscious-downtown-monroe/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on August 22, 2014, 06:29:30 PM
Heartwarming comment underneath the article......

 8*
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on August 23, 2014, 11:30:52 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/23/ida-gas-station-suspect-arrested/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/23/ida-gas-station-suspect-arrested/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on August 23, 2014, 02:28:43 PM
Don't know why this didn't make the "news"... online edition

but in today's paper there is a story about a former Monroe County Police officer busted in Bowling Green
for trying to hire a prostitute to have sex with his girlfriend  :o
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 23, 2014, 02:55:18 PM
Sounds like a voyeur to me....
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on August 23, 2014, 03:17:27 PM
Don't know why this didn't make the "news"... online edition

but in today's paper there is a story about a former Monroe County Police officer busted in Bowling Green
for trying to hire a prostitute to have sex with his girlfriend  :o

Luke Davis?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Frenchfry on August 23, 2014, 03:53:12 PM
Luke Davis?
Not sure if the prostitute the officer solicited to have sex with his girlfriend was a female...but either way...it seems the guy didn't have what it takes to satisfy.

Which leads me to the question...is Luke related to that dilrod Daryl in Deerfield?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 23, 2014, 11:33:42 PM
Not sure if the prostitute the officer solicited to have sex with his girlfriend was a female...but either way...it seems the guy didn't have what it takes to satisfy.

Which leads me to the question...is Luke related to that dilrod Daryl in Deerfield?

Conversely, is Stevie Wonder related to that perveted, immature bigot Steve that lives in Detroit Beach?

Inquiring minds want to know...... 8*
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 24, 2014, 07:44:47 AM
Don't know why this didn't make the "news"... online edition

but in today's paper there is a story about a former Monroe County Police officer busted in Bowling Green
for trying to hire a prostitute to have sex with his girlfriend  :o


It had been in The Blade and the BG Sentinel a few days ago although it didn't specify the relationship between them or the fact he had a police background!

Sounds like a voyeur to me....


Different strokes for different folks!!!

Looks like they put in 'online' this morning Professor:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/24/ex-local-officer-arrested-human-trafficking-sting/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/24/ex-local-officer-arrested-human-trafficking-sting/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 24, 2014, 08:04:51 AM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/23/ida-gas-station-suspect-arrested/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/23/ida-gas-station-suspect-arrested/[/url])


He must have had a pretty good haul from the gas station if he had to go to Cabela's to spend it ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on August 24, 2014, 08:09:33 AM
Luke Davis?

Luke had his own stripper...  he may have cheated people out of their property for a slap on the wrist - but I can't imagine his ego wanting anyone else to share his stripper with  ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on August 24, 2014, 08:11:07 AM
He must have had a pretty good haul from the gas station if he had to go to Cabela's to spend it ;) ;) ;)

I thought the same - or he was upgrading to a bigger knife  8*
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on August 24, 2014, 08:18:31 AM
Luke had his own stripper...  he may have cheated people out of their property for a slap on the wrist - but I can't imagine his ego wanting anyone else to share his stripper with  ;D

Then they should have set the bail higher where he had no choice.   ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on August 24, 2014, 08:25:07 AM
Then they should have set the bail higher where he had no choice.   ;)
I have wondered if she had to return to work while he's in the pokey... 

no billboards announcing it that I've seen - wonder what they would say  ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 24, 2014, 10:57:59 AM
One big reason NOT to live in California:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bvzz7PXCAAANaca.jpg:large)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 24, 2014, 10:59:36 AM
I have wondered if she had to return to work while he's in the pokey... 

no billboards announcing it that I've seen - wonder what they would say  ;D

Maybe he's out putting into practice all the new 'tricks' he learned in Boot Camp :o :o :o
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on August 24, 2014, 11:01:06 AM
I have wondered if she had to return to work while he's in the pokey... 

no billboards announcing it that I've seen - wonder what they would say  ;D

I would have paid for private room dances for every person that was busted by him and had their personal property in his possession or sold to someone else.......and then had the grind pictures sent to him during his "slap on the wrist" punishment duration!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 24, 2014, 02:16:56 PM
One big reason NOT to live in California:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bvzz7PXCAAANaca.jpg:large)

The second is their dracconian gun laws and thirdly, Pelosi.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on August 24, 2014, 02:21:12 PM
The second is their dracconian gun laws and thirdly, Pelosi.

Fourth Brown Out Davis.

I hear he is thinking of running for President, and Jennifer Granholm may run for Governor out there.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on August 24, 2014, 07:43:36 PM
In the news tonight.
ISIS captured an air base in Syria today.
Now they have, war planes, helicopters, Tanks and much more.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: sammy on August 24, 2014, 10:33:17 PM
In the news tonight.
ISIS captured an air base in Syria today.
Now they have, war planes, helicopters, Tanks and much more.
Not to worry, that's a long way from here.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 24, 2014, 11:24:47 PM
Fourth Brown Out Davis.

I hear he is thinking of running for President, and Jennifer Granholm may run for Governor out there.

Granny would make an excellent governor in California.  She has the track record.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on August 25, 2014, 09:36:47 AM
Granny would make an excellent governor in California.  She has the track record.
It would be good for Michigan to attract California businesses ....  as she chases them out.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on August 25, 2014, 10:16:17 AM
One big reason NOT to live in California:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bvzz7PXCAAANaca.jpg:large)
Now that's a pot hole!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on August 25, 2014, 10:17:47 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/25/doctors-reiterate-need-free-medical-clinic/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/25/doctors-reiterate-need-free-medical-clinic/)

You mean not everyone obeyed and got their free obamacare?  ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 25, 2014, 01:33:17 PM
Now that's a pot hole!

Are you referring to the pavement or the gal in the nightgown?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Tiny on August 25, 2014, 11:43:39 PM
In the news tonight.
ISIS captured an air base in Syria today.
Now they have, war planes, helicopters, Tanks and much more.

Can they operate them?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 26, 2014, 10:45:05 AM
Can they operate them?

I can't speak for the warplanes or the helicopters but I doubt they have very many trained to fly them...

it's not real difficult to 'drive' a tank...   or even to fire off a shot or two...   but it's a lot more complicated to actually hit anything...  especially if it's a moving target. 

Mount a few Hellfire anti tank rockets on some drones and let them go tank hunting.  Even a fast tank is pretty slow for a drone!!!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 26, 2014, 10:49:07 AM
Are you referring to the pavement or the gal in the nightgown?

I've been wondering just what that is she's wearing...

or is she holding something out in front of her?

I even asked my wife what she thought and she said it looked like a nightgown :o :o :o
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: nails on August 26, 2014, 11:14:39 AM
Aw . . . I think those are neighborhood speed bumps.
There are a few streets in Toledo that have them.

One big reason NOT to live in California:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bvzz7PXCAAANaca.jpg:large)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 26, 2014, 11:20:15 AM
Aw . . . I think those are neighborhood speed bumps.
There are a few streets in Toledo that have them.

Well that's the first 'speed bump' I ever saw on a sidewalk ;) ;) ;)

I'll bet there were kids on skateboards and bicycles that were jumping them before the day was over ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Debimark on August 26, 2014, 11:37:58 AM
Toledo Water Superintendent resigns.

http://www.toledoblade.com/Politics/2014/08/26/Water-plant-chief-issues-resignation-copy.html (http://www.toledoblade.com/Politics/2014/08/26/Water-plant-chief-issues-resignation-copy.html)

Even a blind crossing guard had to see that one coming.............
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 26, 2014, 11:44:40 AM
Toledo Water Superintendent resigns.

[url]http://www.toledoblade.com/Politics/2014/08/26/Water-plant-chief-issues-resignation-copy.html[/url] ([url]http://www.toledoblade.com/Politics/2014/08/26/Water-plant-chief-issues-resignation-copy.html[/url])

Even a blind crossing guard had to see that one coming.............


When I first read your post I thought it said 'blonde'...

maybe I just have women on my mind this morning ;) ;) ;)

Here's your 'blind' crossing guard...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BigPmHhYNQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BigPmHhYNQ#)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on August 29, 2014, 01:39:19 PM
Chelsea Clinton Leaving Her Unbelievably Cushy Fake Job at NBC
By Joe CoscarelliFollow @joecoscarelli

Kicking off the annual Labor Day Friday News Dump, Chelsea Clinton has announced, via People, that she will no longer pretend to be a reporter. The once (and future?) First Daughter has been a “special correspondent” for NBC News since 2011, when she was dubbed, following her debut, “one of the most boring people of her era.” For the occasional feel-good segment or interview with the CGI Geico gecko, Clinton earned a reported annual salary of $600,000, or approximately $26,724 for every minute she was on-air.
She switched to a month-by-month contract earlier this year, allegedly because of her pregnancy and her mother's impending run for president, not because she was being paid an insane amount of money to do almost nothing.

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But she just doesn't have time to occasionally appear on TV for a few minutes anymore and is departing, amicably we're sure, “to continue focusing on my work at the Clinton Foundation and as Marc and I look forward to welcoming our first child,” Clinton told People.

“Chelsea's storytelling inspired people across the country and showcased the real power we have as individuals to make a difference in our communities,” said NBC News senior vice president Alex Wallace. “While she will be missed, we look forward to working with her in the future.”

A search for her recent work turns up “Oscar-Winning Actor Jeff Bridges Fights to End Childhood Hunger” and “Homework Diner Serves Up Education With a Side of Food” (a follow-up to the same story from last year), along with “Chelsea Clinton Pregnant: ‘Marc and I Are Very Excited,” “Chelsea Clinton: I’m Very Excited About First Child,” and “‘So Thrilled’: Chelsea Clinton Announces Pregnancy.”
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/08/chelsea-clinton-leaving-her-fake-job-at-nbc.html (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/08/chelsea-clinton-leaving-her-fake-job-at-nbc.html)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 29, 2014, 04:30:49 PM
Immaculate conception or artificial insemnation?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on August 29, 2014, 04:35:55 PM
It was just an illegal campaign contribution to Hillary
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on August 31, 2014, 08:47:02 AM

Just missed it...   I'm guessing that Fuzz was there giving his full "support"  ;D

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/GoTopless-rally-slated-for-downtown-San-Antonio-5704125.php (http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/GoTopless-rally-slated-for-downtown-San-Antonio-5704125.php)

(http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/31/61/47/6756802/4/622x350.jpg)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on August 31, 2014, 08:49:42 AM
I got there just in time.......cool, breezy evening on the Riverwalk brought a few things to attention.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 31, 2014, 09:15:06 AM
I got there just in time.......cool, breezy evening on the Riverwalk brought a few things to attention.


Maybe we can organize a 'rally' along the riverwalk downtown ;) ;) ;)

Article with video:

http://www.ksat.com/content/pns/ksat/news/2014/08/24/topless-protest-held-downtown.html (http://www.ksat.com/content/pns/ksat/news/2014/08/24/topless-protest-held-downtown.html)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 31, 2014, 09:50:48 AM
http://www.13abc.com/story/26414231/man-robbed-in-room-of-monroe-co-motel (http://www.13abc.com/story/26414231/man-robbed-in-room-of-monroe-co-motel)

Why would you even answer the door...

unless you were perhaps 'expecting' someone ;) ;) ;)

This has 'Backpage' written all over it in my humble opinion ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on August 31, 2014, 10:08:53 AM
Are you suggesting that Room service at those Bedford Notels has a whole different meaning  ;D

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on August 31, 2014, 10:10:29 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/31/man-arrested-stealing-cars-monroe-mobile-home-park/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/31/man-arrested-stealing-cars-monroe-mobile-home-park/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on August 31, 2014, 10:32:09 AM
Maybe we can organize a 'rally' along the riverwalk downtown ;) ;) ;)

Article with video:

[url]http://www.ksat.com/content/pns/ksat/news/2014/08/24/topless-protest-held-downtown.html[/url] ([url]http://www.ksat.com/content/pns/ksat/news/2014/08/24/topless-protest-held-downtown.html[/url])


I'll man the hot dog cart!   ;D

I suggest a Fall event.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on August 31, 2014, 10:58:10 AM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/31/man-arrested-stealing-cars-monroe-mobile-home-park/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/aug/31/man-arrested-stealing-cars-monroe-mobile-home-park/[/url])


At least he's no longer 'homeless' ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 02, 2014, 10:20:48 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/02/stewart-rd-crossing-close/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/02/stewart-rd-crossing-close/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

Glad to see them getting all the crossings fixed up...

now if we could just get the other 99.9% of our roads fixed ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on September 02, 2014, 02:22:38 PM
http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26408125/feral-cat-shuts-down-school?clienttype=generic (http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26408125/feral-cat-shuts-down-school?clienttype=generic)




Fuzz will get a kick out of this one! :)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: FritzTheKat on September 02, 2014, 02:32:38 PM
Those kids owe that cat a can of tuna...
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on September 02, 2014, 07:15:13 PM
http://m.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/02/telegraph-rd-bridge-closed-city-due-accident/# (http://m.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/02/telegraph-rd-bridge-closed-city-due-accident/#)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on September 02, 2014, 09:36:27 PM
What a downer......

 :-[

Hope everyone is doing okay.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on September 02, 2014, 10:36:04 PM
[url]http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26408125/feral-cat-shuts-down-school?clienttype=generic[/url] ([url]http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26408125/feral-cat-shuts-down-school?clienttype=generic[/url])




Fuzz will get a kick out of this one! :)


Some times it takes a lot of effort to capture a crafty little **** (cat).   ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on September 03, 2014, 08:21:38 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/02/man-59-kills-man-43-road-rage-incident/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/02/man-59-kills-man-43-road-rage-incident/)


This is happening way too much.  Why can't everyone just blow kisses like I do?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: nails on September 03, 2014, 08:45:15 AM


This is happening way too much.  Why can't everyone just blow kisses like I do?



Hi.   My friends call me . . . "Kisses".
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: livewire on September 03, 2014, 08:57:39 AM

Hi.   My friends call me . . . "Kisses".


LMFAO!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 03, 2014, 09:43:06 AM
If you have to go to Ida in the next couple of days you'll probably have to take a detour!  We've been watching them build a new grain storage silo at the Co-op over the last couple of weeks.  Apparently something in the hydraulic lift system broke yesterday afternoon and the silo is 'listing' :o :o :o

If it falls to the west it will land directly in front of the Ida Fire Station!!!  I could hear Ida and Summerfield Township FDs working there last night on the scanner but it wasn't clear what they were working on.  This morning I saw it on the news.

They build these silos by putting the top together on the ground and then sitting it on top of a jack system.  Then they raise it a few feet and put in another section, raise all that, repeat, repeat, repeat until it's done.  Sounds like they were at about 85 ft and maybe heading toward a hundred feet when part of the hydraulics gave way.  If you look close in some of the video you can see that the side walls at the bottom have buckled slightly however that slight list at ground level translates to a big issue at 85 ft in the air.

http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26434749/michigan-fire-department-concerned-silo-could-topple (http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26434749/michigan-fire-department-concerned-silo-could-topple)

http://www.13abc.com/story/26432228/mi-fire-dept-warns-of-unstable-silo (http://www.13abc.com/story/26432228/mi-fire-dept-warns-of-unstable-silo)

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 03, 2014, 10:14:35 AM
Our oldest daughter got caught up in this last night.  It took her an hour from when she first got stopped southbound on Telegraph and then detoured out N. Custer to Raisinville Rd. and then south on Raisinville to Dunbar and back to Telegraph!

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/02/telegraph-rd-bridge-closed-city-due-accident/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/02/telegraph-rd-bridge-closed-city-due-accident/)

(http://monroenews.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2014/09/02/IMG_0690.JPG_copy_t670.jpg?b3f6a5d7692ccc373d56e40cf708e3fa67d9af9d)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on September 03, 2014, 10:28:42 AM
I see the Monroe county police reports every morning on Twitter.  Frenchtown and Monroe Township sure have a lot of activity almost every day
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 03, 2014, 10:44:10 AM
Looks like Bedford has their fair share too...

Quote
Bedford Township 9800 block of Crabb Rd., trouble with man Sarah and Sterns Rds., drunken driving arrest 300 block of Temperance Rd., suicidal man 7300 block of Lewis Ave., shoplifting 7100 block of Wiltshire Dr., identity theft 2900 block of Consear Rd., death investigation 3100 block of Smith Rd., warrant arrest 6200 block of S. Telegraph Rd., larceny from vehicle 600 block of Sterns Rd., suspicious incident 9800 block of Crabb Rd., trouble with man 1000 block of Oakmont St., breaking and entering Erie and Minx Rds., fleeing and eluding 2900 block of Dean Rd., failure to return vehicle 3300 block of W. Sterns Rd., possession of marijuana 6600 block of Secor Rd., harassing phone calls

Read more at: [url]http://www.bedfordnow.com/news/2014/sep/02/monroe-county-police-calls-090214/[/url] ([url]http://www.bedfordnow.com/news/2014/sep/02/monroe-county-police-calls-090214/[/url])
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 03, 2014, 10:57:34 AM
Our oldest daughter got caught up in this last night.  It took her an hour from when she first got stopped southbound on Telegraph and then detoured out N. Custer to Raisinville Rd. and then south on Raisinville to Dunbar and back to Telegraph!

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/02/telegraph-rd-bridge-closed-city-due-accident/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/02/telegraph-rd-bridge-closed-city-due-accident/[/url])

([url]http://monroenews.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2014/09/02/IMG_0690.JPG_copy_t670.jpg?b3f6a5d7692ccc373d56e40cf708e3fa67d9af9d[/url])


Must have to do with the 'militarization' of LE but back in the old days, a fender bender was dealt with quickly, no closures of roads and disruption of traffic flow.  Today, they close the road, have numerous police and rescue vehicles and generally screw everything up.....
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Debimark on September 03, 2014, 11:11:18 AM
And I would be willing to bet drugs or alcohol "may have been a factor" with respect to the person hit. First, we shut down I-75 so we could rescue a jumper; now we shut down a bridge due to someone darting into traffic.

What's next? A cradle/net for the Golden Gate Bridge?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 03, 2014, 11:13:15 AM
Or government issued diapers for everyone........... ;D

Bottom line is we live in a society of over reaction to anything.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 03, 2014, 11:34:23 AM
And I would be willing to bet drugs or alcohol "may have been a factor" with respect to the person hit. First, we shut down I-75 so we could rescue a jumper; now we shut down a bridge due to someone darting into traffic.

What's next? A cradle/net for the Golden Gate Bridge?

One of the Facebook comments in the article suggested perhaps bridges should have guardrails to keep people from walking out into traffic :o :o :o
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 03, 2014, 11:46:26 AM
A photo of the silo in Ida from NBC24 Toledo Twitter post:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bwng6_yIcAAmowI.jpg)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 03, 2014, 11:55:12 AM
Ida FD just called for an assist from Summerfield FD again at Ida's fire station! 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Debimark on September 03, 2014, 12:19:09 PM
Could the same barrier/guardrail system deployed to prevent jumpers and folks running into traffic be used to stabilize 95-foot silos?  Just a thought.

Please tell me the MCRC would not be involved in the Design and Engineering of such a barrier/guardrail?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: livewire on September 03, 2014, 12:52:07 PM
If you have to go to Ida in the next couple of days you'll probably have to take a detour!  We've been watching them build a new grain storage silo at the Co-op over the last couple of weeks.  Apparently something in the hydraulic lift system broke yesterday afternoon and the silo is 'listing' :o :o :o

If it falls to the west it will land directly in front of the Ida Fire Station!!!  I could hear Ida and Summerfield Township FDs working there last night on the scanner but it wasn't clear what they were working on.  This morning I saw it on the news.

They build these silos by putting the top together on the ground and then sitting it on top of a jack system.  Then they raise it a few feet and put in another section, raise all that, repeat, repeat, repeat until it's done.  Sounds like they were at about 85 ft and maybe heading toward a hundred feet when part of the hydraulics gave way.  If you look close in some of the video you can see that the side walls at the bottom have buckled slightly however that slight list at ground level translates to a big issue at 85 ft in the air.

[url]http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26434749/michigan-fire-department-concerned-silo-could-topple[/url] ([url]http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26434749/michigan-fire-department-concerned-silo-could-topple[/url])

[url]http://www.13abc.com/story/26432228/mi-fire-dept-warns-of-unstable-silo[/url] ([url]http://www.13abc.com/story/26432228/mi-fire-dept-warns-of-unstable-silo[/url])


With the potential for a record-breaking crop of corn and soybeans this year, the Co-Op was being pro-active, trying to get more storage before harvest.  These huge bins are not cheap.

I certainly hope that the crew that was building it didn't take any shortcuts.  The article said a jack had failed.  In the few bins that I watched being built, there were MULTIPLE jacks inside - twice the number needed, as a redundant backup.  This is highly unusual.  These crews travel all over the country doing this - they have it down to a science.  One jack failing should not have caused this - it would have only been a minor delay in the construction as they replaced the jack.

I hope they get it fixed, and no one gets hurt.

I'm looking forward to hearing the real story on this, if and when it comes out.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on September 03, 2014, 03:00:58 PM
http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2014/09/michigan_man_charged_with_arme.html (http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2014/09/michigan_man_charged_with_arme.html)




Boy, this must be a big, brave man to mess with the Amish in a buggy. . .
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 03, 2014, 03:11:30 PM
With the potential for a record-breaking crop of corn and soybeans this year, the Co-Op was being pro-active, trying to get more storage before harvest.  These huge bins are not cheap.

I certainly hope that the crew that was building it didn't take any shortcuts.  The article said a jack had failed.  In the few bins that I watched being built, there were MULTIPLE jacks inside - twice the number needed, as a redundant backup.  This is highly unusual. These crews travel all over the country doing this - they have it down to a science.  One jack failing should not have caused this - it would have only been a minor delay in the construction as they replaced the jack.

I hope they get it fixed, and no one gets hurt.

I'm looking forward to hearing the real story on this, if and when it comes out.

We took a ride over to Ida to look the situation over.  I got some pictures and video but there really wasn't much to see.  It looked like most of the 'work' was done by the time we got there.  They have secured the problem 'bin'.  I'll have to look my pictures over closer and then post anything that looks interesting.

You're exactly right about the 'dual jacking system' livewire and that is actually exactly what happened... Somehow two of their jacks failed within just a few minutes of each other late yesterday afternoon.  It sounds like they had just finished putting some temporary braces around the bottom and were probably getting ready to leave for the night.  I imagine it could have been a possible tragedy if they had only put part of the bottom ring on and all of the weight was still on the jacks. 

I talked to one of the crew and he said this was very, very unusual and it was the first time he's ever run into something like this (but he's still quite young too)!  His shirt said 'D&K Construction' on the back and I believe he said they were out of Springfield, Ohio.  However, there was a trailer there that said 'Custom Agricultural Builders' from Washington, Indiana on the side.  Maybe that was the crew they were waiting for that had to arrive from Tennessee?

While we were there the FDs tore down the magic yellow vapor tape and Summerfield FD left and went home.  Then the road commission removed the road closed barriers.  We actually could have been the very first vehicle through on Lewis but I decided I'd just go back around behind again ;) ;) ;)  I looked it over pretty close while I was out taking pictures and I don't think the bin could make it to Lewis even if it did fall over...   but I'd bet it would make a lot of noise and dust and probably some of the pieces off the top would go flying :o :o :o
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 03, 2014, 03:17:17 PM
[url]http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2014/09/michigan_man_charged_with_arme.html[/url] ([url]http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2014/09/michigan_man_charged_with_arme.html[/url])




Boy, this must be a big, brave man to mess with the Amish in a buggy. . .


He was a 20 yr old punk... 

I'm very familiar with that area...   years ago this would probably not have happened...

the times they are a changin' >:( >:( >:(

www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7qQ6_RV4VQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7qQ6_RV4VQ#)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on September 03, 2014, 03:39:17 PM
One of the Facebook comments in the article suggested perhaps bridges should have guardrails to keep people from walking out into traffic :o :o :o
I shudder to think they will make it a 3 lane bridge like the others - and put in bike lanes...   
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on September 03, 2014, 04:26:46 PM
Yeah , Bedford had quite a few today.  Most of Bedfords reports are always on Telegraph. 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on September 03, 2014, 05:23:39 PM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/03/fake-massachusetts-license-plate-fools-no-one/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/03/fake-massachusetts-license-plate-fools-no-one/)


Gee, I don't know why this wouldn't work! 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on September 03, 2014, 05:42:22 PM
There are more weird people in this world than we think
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on September 03, 2014, 07:06:41 PM
You got that right!

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on September 03, 2014, 07:20:49 PM


Gee, I don't know why this wouldn't work! 


LOL  didn't even consider using a color printer... 
(http://monroenews.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2014/09/03/10624556_688555614561758_565169751947574424_n_t180.jpg?370a03faaa4bde2115f371a02430eb3e6a451be5)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on September 03, 2014, 07:24:08 PM
http://www.freep.com/article/20140902/NEWS03/309020174/Marian-teacher-gay-pregnancy-Catholic (http://www.freep.com/article/20140902/NEWS03/309020174/Marian-teacher-gay-pregnancy-Catholic)

Not sure why an open gay female would want to work at an "All Girl" Catholic school in the first place...   ???
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 03, 2014, 08:34:09 PM
Getting in a bit late and never heard about the grain bin issue....

It's good steel, it's ours.  Brock is one of our big customers for galvanized sheet.  They are out in Indiana south of LaGrange.  Actually, for the size of the bin, there really isn't a whole lot of weight in sheet there.  That stuff is 18 gage.  Maybe 30 ton in the whole bin.  The footer, floot is thick and the gueesting is what keeps it together.

If it came down, it would make a bunch of noise, a cloud of dust but not much damage....

I'm sure they (builder) has insurance anyway.

Looking for a record harvest and looking for new crop prices to tank as well.  Break even on corn is about $2.80.  I look for it to go below that.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Maverick on September 03, 2014, 09:01:20 PM
It's so low this year I am going to store most of mine until the prices firm up a little. Usually harvest prices aren't comparatively bad but with all the negative news about corn prices I think this year will be especially bad.

Mav
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on September 03, 2014, 09:19:15 PM
Another disaster year for agriculture?

 ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 04, 2014, 08:11:59 AM
A two semi crash had 75 SB near the state line closed most of the night...

I must have been sleeping pretty good because I never heard a thing :o :o :o

http://www.nbc24.com/news/story.aspx?id=1092201 (http://www.nbc24.com/news/story.aspx?id=1092201)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on September 04, 2014, 09:15:36 AM
Must have to do with the 'militarization' of LE but back in the old days, a fender bender was dealt with quickly, no closures of roads and disruption of traffic flow.  Today, they close the road, have numerous police and rescue vehicles and generally screw everything up.....
I think the main reason you see roads shut down now must be from lawsuits...   
The police must measure everything (Think of s CSI show), take pictures of everything - all for the potential use of the prosecutor
Never mind what witnesses saw - a person jumping in and out of traffic...   

Funny thing is they think it's okay to block the road completely for their work
However, how many times in the past few years have you heard of Firefighters being detained for doing the same to protect their personnel?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on September 04, 2014, 12:19:51 PM
My question is the legality... 
can they order other businesses that are "regulated" to give away stuff?
==============================================

California city mandates free medical marijuana for low-income residents


Weed welfare?

That’s what the Berkeley City Council in California has unanimously approved, ordering medical marijuana dispensaries to donate 2 percent of their stash to patients making less than $32,000 a year.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/09/04/california-city-ok-free-marijuana-for-charity/ (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/09/04/california-city-ok-free-marijuana-for-charity/)

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on September 04, 2014, 02:09:45 PM
I'm surprise obamacare doesn't provide for it
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 05, 2014, 07:25:28 AM
Another fatal crash on 75 early this morning...   yesterday it was closed at the south county line and today at the north county line :-\ :-\ :-\

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/05/traffic-accident-has-shut-down-i-75-s-huron-river/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/05/traffic-accident-has-shut-down-i-75-s-huron-river/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 05, 2014, 07:50:08 AM
And another one with 'eyes on the Whitehouse' crashes and burns...

http://online.wsj.com/articles/former-virginia-gov-bob-mcdonnell-and-wife-found-guilty-on-public-corruption-charges-1409858382 (http://online.wsj.com/articles/former-virginia-gov-bob-mcdonnell-and-wife-found-guilty-on-public-corruption-charges-1409858382)

Here is what bothers me most with this story...

that there is actually a 'need' for attorneys that specialize in this field :( :( :(

Quote
said Patrick O'Donnell, who specializes in defending public officials accused of corruption
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 05, 2014, 08:37:02 AM
Another fatal crash on 75 early this morning...   yesterday it was closed at the south county line and today at the north county line :-\ :-\ :-\

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/05/traffic-accident-has-shut-down-i-75-s-huron-river/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/05/traffic-accident-has-shut-down-i-75-s-huron-river/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter[/url])


I just heard Berlin and S. Rockwood FDs going out of service so 75 must be flowing again!!!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 05, 2014, 10:09:38 AM
There's a fully involved structure fire on N. Custer near Doty Road.  Sounds like a large garage with a couple of vehicles inside and burning.  At least they have a hydrant near the scene!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 05, 2014, 10:12:20 AM
and now the wheat stubble field across the road is on fire too!!!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 05, 2014, 10:18:00 AM
Sounds like the garage is about burned out but the wheat stubble field is really burning now!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 05, 2014, 10:37:36 AM
Sounds like the field fire is out or at least under control and they're 'mopping up' the structure fire.  They're requesting an investigator for the structure fire as there is no 'obvious cause' at this time.

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 05, 2014, 11:17:57 AM
Some personnel and equipment are starting to leave the scene now although the road is going to remain closed until they're done dealing with mop up, hot spots, investigation etc.  The hydrant is one side of the road and the fire was on the other side! 

Please don't ever drive over a fire hose unless you are directed to by a firefighter!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 05, 2014, 11:46:42 AM
Photo of the garage fire from

https://twitter.com/newschic/status/507911039413800960/photo/1

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bwx2ZfoCUAAUskI.jpg)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 05, 2014, 11:56:17 AM
Article and more photos from:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/05/fire-closing-ncuster-rd/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/05/fire-closing-ncuster-rd/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)


(http://monroenews.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2014/09/05/015_t670.JPG?b3f6a5d7692ccc373d56e40cf708e3fa67d9af9d)


(http://monroenews.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2014/09/05/051_1_t670.JPG?b3f6a5d7692ccc373d56e40cf708e3fa67d9af9d)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on September 05, 2014, 05:40:44 PM
There's a fully involved structure fire on N. Custer near Doty Road.  Sounds like a large garage with a couple of vehicles inside and burning.  At least they have a hydrant near the scene!
The "Doty" homestead?

I wondered where all that dark smoke was coming from - as I was on the Tee...   too far away to hear sirens, but knew from the color it was more than a brush fire.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on September 05, 2014, 06:20:16 PM
Did it distract you enough to hit into Brian's group playing just ahead of you?   ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Maverick on September 06, 2014, 12:17:48 AM
Al Wrights place. Not the house but the garage/barn to the east of the house.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on September 06, 2014, 07:17:03 AM
Did it distract you enough to hit into Brian's group playing just ahead of you?   ;D
We are playing today - I'm sure it will be all fantasy football lineup talk however  ;D
Al Wrights place. Not the house but the garage/barn to the east of the house.
I see now from the pics - thanks
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 07, 2014, 10:02:42 AM
There is a rescue operation going on just offshore of the J.R. Whiting plant at the end of Erie Road.  Sounds like a father and 2 kids got caught in the discharge current from the plant.  I've waded through that discharge and it can be pretty strong at times.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 07, 2014, 10:07:02 AM
The two children have been recovered but the father is still missing!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on September 07, 2014, 10:30:59 AM

Raisin Twp. may split police, fire departments
http://www.lenconnect.com/article/20140903/News/140909790 (http://www.lenconnect.com/article/20140903/News/140909790)

Quote
“It is my opinion that we were mistaken to merge the police and fire departments. This has created an administrative quagmire that really hasn’t benefited the township at all,” Lambka wrote in his letter. “I would like to suggest that you abandon the director’s position and return to a police chief and fire chief system.”


They usually don't benefit the governmental agency - just one of the departments that was involved
In most cases the police...  as they keep the funding and cut the fire services
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 07, 2014, 03:15:34 PM
The two children have been recovered but the father is still missing!


It turns out it was not the father that was with the boys (sounds like at least one may have been a teen) but rather a friend of the father.  They are still working on a recovery at the scene.

From 13ABC Toledo:

http://www.13abc.com/story/26468358/luna-pier-water-rescue (http://www.13abc.com/story/26468358/luna-pier-water-rescue)

This photo taken where Erie Rd. ends at Lake Erie was on 13ABC's twitter feed and the rest of the photos are from the above article!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bw8OMKuCQAAgu7z.jpg:large)

(http://wtvg.images.worldnow.com/images/4676360_G.jpg)

(http://wtvg.images.worldnow.com/images/4676504_G.jpg)

(http://wtvg.images.worldnow.com/images/4676505_G.jpg)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 07, 2014, 03:26:02 PM
Article from The Blade says the man missing was the father of one the boys who were 12 & 13.

http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2014/09/07/Man-attempting-rescue-missing.html (http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2014/09/07/Man-attempting-rescue-missing.html)

Also a story and photo from Channel 7 WXYZ:

http://www.wxyz.com/news/region/monroe-county/monroe-county-sheriff-searching-for-missing-father-in-lake-erie (http://www.wxyz.com/news/region/monroe-county/monroe-county-sheriff-searching-for-missing-father-in-lake-erie)

(http://media2.wxyz.com/photo/2014/09/07/photo%20_OP_7_CP__1410109449978_7810258_ver1.0_900_675.JPG)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 07, 2014, 04:20:25 PM
Why are prople attracted to such places...you included.  I don't get it.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Tiny on September 07, 2014, 10:58:17 PM
Raisin Twp. may split police, fire departments
[url]http://www.lenconnect.com/article/20140903/News/140909790[/url] ([url]http://www.lenconnect.com/article/20140903/News/140909790[/url])

They usually don't benefit the governmental agency - just one of the departments that was involved
In most cases the police...  as they keep the funding and cut the fire services



Where is Raisin Township?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on September 07, 2014, 11:06:47 PM
Where is Raisin Township?
Lenawee County

Raisin Township is located in South East Michigan, approximately 45 minutes south of Ann Arbor and Detroit Metropolitan Airport, and 45 minutes north of Toledo. The township is bordered by Tecumseh City to the North and Adrian City to the South.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Tiny on September 07, 2014, 11:11:53 PM
Comedian Drew Carey offers reward in bucket prank

Posted: Sep 06, 2014 4:23 PM EDT
Updated: Sep 07, 2014 4:49 PM EDT
 

BAY VILLAGE, Ohio (AP) - Comedian Drew Carey is offering to help police find those involved in dumping a bucket of urine and feces on a special-needs teen in Ohio who was reportedly told the prank was part of the "Ice Bucket Challenge."

The Cleveland native posted on his Twitter account Saturday that he's willing to donate $10,000 if police in suburban Bay Village want to start a reward fund.

The 14-year-old boy's mother found a cellphone video of teenagers dumping the bucket on her autistic son.

Bay Village High School organized a vigil for the teen before a football game on Friday and school officials have condemned the prank.

Carey is the host of the popular game show "The Price is Right" and starred in the comedy "The Drew Carey Show."
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 08, 2014, 08:59:47 AM
Update on the drowning yesterday at the J.R. Whiting plant:

http://www.13abc.com/story/26468358/luna-pier-water-rescue (http://www.13abc.com/story/26468358/luna-pier-water-rescue)

http://www.wxyz.com/news/region/monroe-county/monroe-county-sheriff-searching-for-missing-father-in-lake-erie (http://www.wxyz.com/news/region/monroe-county/monroe-county-sheriff-searching-for-missing-father-in-lake-erie)

The fire departments involved called off their search about 10 after 4 yesterday.  Sounds like the Sheriff Dept. stayed until about 6:30 and the Coast Guard stayed until dark. 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 08, 2014, 09:34:19 AM
Why are prople attracted to such places...you included.  I don't get it.


Well I wouldn't attempt to answer for anyone else but if I had to guess I'd say this group went there to go fishing. 

When I go there it isn't that particular area that I'm looking for but rather I have to go through there to get south on the Woodtick Peninsula.  And I go out there for the peace and solitude.  Sometimes one just has to get away from people...   I usually take the big red dog with me though.

I'm sure many people would ask why you are attracted to the area where you go big game hunting...   and if you tried explaining it to them they would just reply "I just don't get it."

Many would ask how you can sit in a tractor cab and go around and around the same field all day...

others would ask how anyone could drive 100,000 miles in a semi truck a year...

Different strokes for different folks...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKUI2Zwioc0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKUI2Zwioc0#)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 08, 2014, 11:25:06 AM
NBC 24 Toledo just had a tweet that a body matching the description of the missing man has been found in the area where he was lost.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on September 08, 2014, 11:52:40 AM
On September 1, 2014 at 12:42 AM, the Monroe County Sheriff’s Office was dispatched to the 6000 block of Colf Road in Exeter Township on a report of a fire involving a barn with a studio type
apartment over top.

[/size]The 54-year-old man that was found deceased in the fire has been positively identified by the Wayne County Medical Examiner's Office as Robert Swinkey of Monroe.[/color]
The cause of the fire has been ruled undetermined. The cause and manner of death still pends, and official ruling from the Monroe County Medical Examiner, which could still take several more weeks
due to toxicology testing.
The investigation continues. Anyone with information is asked to call the Monroe County Sheriff’s Office Detective Bureau at 734-
240-7530.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 08, 2014, 11:56:13 AM
Article on the body recovery from the MonroeNews website:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/08/body-recovered-lake-erie/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/08/body-recovered-lake-erie/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 08, 2014, 11:59:46 AM
On September 1, 2014 at 12:42 AM, the Monroe County Sheriff’s Office was dispatched to the 6000 block of Colf Road in Exeter Township on a report of a fire involving a barn with a studio type
apartment over top.

[/size]The 54-year-old man that was found deceased in the fire has been positively identified by the Wayne County Medical Examiner's Office as Robert Swinkey of Monroe.[/color]
The cause of the fire has been ruled undetermined. The cause and manner of death still pends, and official ruling from the Monroe County Medical Examiner, which could still take several more weeks
due to toxicology testing.
The investigation continues. Anyone with information is asked to call the Monroe County Sheriff’s Office Detective Bureau at 734-
240-7530.

I listened to this on the scanner...   not sure if it was a night I was just destined not to be sleeping of if all the scanner traffic just had me wide awake! 

Based on what I heard on the scanner that morning there's a lot more to this incident than has been reported so far. 

I have my own 'theory' but I'll wait until all the tests are done and everything is summarized.

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on September 08, 2014, 12:13:50 PM
Of good.  They have recovered the dad's body from the lake! 

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on September 08, 2014, 12:14:47 PM
http://qpolitical.com/founder-chick-fil-passed-away-morning/ (http://qpolitical.com/founder-chick-fil-passed-away-morning/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 08, 2014, 01:00:12 PM
Well I wouldn't attempt to answer for anyone else but if I had to guess I'd say this group went there to go fishing. 

When I go there it isn't that particular area that I'm looking for but rather I have to go through there to get south on the Woodtick Peninsula.  And I go out there for the peace and solitude.  Sometimes one just has to get away from people...   I usually take the big red dog with me though.

I'm sure many people would ask why you are attracted to the area where you go big game hunting...   and if you tried explaining it to them they would just reply "I just don't get it."

Many would ask how you can sit in a tractor cab and go around and around the same field all day...

others would ask how anyone could drive 100,000 miles in a semi truck a year...

Different strokes for different folks...

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKUI2Zwioc0]www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKUI2Zwioc0[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKUI2Zwioc0#[/url])


I still don't get the attraction.  It is plainly marked 'Danger' and below that 'People die here'. 

The truck is a job as is farming.  Going out there isn't far as I can see..............
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on September 08, 2014, 02:40:04 PM
It won't be a danger in a few more years...  aren't they shutting the plant down?

Lots of Boaters are attracted to the discharges - because the water is warmer - Same for the Edison one, except they probably had a newer and safer discharge design...   
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Tiny on September 08, 2014, 11:25:54 PM
[url]http://qpolitical.com/founder-chick-fil-passed-away-morning/[/url] ([url]http://qpolitical.com/founder-chick-fil-passed-away-morning/[/url])


"His simplistic, but developed sandwich consisted of a buttered bun, boneless chicken, and dill pickles. He called this his, ‘Chick-fil-A.’"

Sounds like the McDonalds Southern Style Chicken sandwich from a few years back.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Tiny on September 08, 2014, 11:32:22 PM
I still don't get the attraction.  It is plainly marked 'Danger' and below that 'People die here'. 

The truck is a job as is farming.  Going out there isn't far as I can see..............

I thought the newspaper said they were fishing several hundred yards out, the signs would be hard to read from there. How powerful is that discharge at several hundred yards out? They must pump an awful lot of water to be tat powerful.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on September 09, 2014, 08:31:36 AM
I thought the newspaper said they were fishing several hundred yards out, the signs would be hard to read from there. How powerful is that discharge at several hundred yards out? They must pump an awful lot of water to be tat powerful.
The Monroe power plant pretty much uses the flow of the river - yes they use a lot of water in the generation/cooling process.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 09, 2014, 10:34:59 AM
The Monroe power plant pretty much uses the flow of the river - yes they use a lot of water in the generation/cooling process.

The hot water discharge goes directly south from the plant in what was the 'original' channel of the River Raisin.  Eventually it mixes with water from Plum Creek and enters Lake Erie at the' hot hole.  There are barriers to prevent boats from getting too close to the discharge current in the channel.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 09, 2014, 10:40:37 AM
I thought the newspaper said they were fishing several hundred yards out, the signs would be hard to read from there. How powerful is that discharge at several hundred yards out? They must pump an awful lot of water to be tat powerful.

It is possible they were fishing from the shore and 'several hundred yards to the north' of the discharge pipe.  The water is fairly shallow there so they could have also waded out into the lake although several hundred yards seems a bit of a stretch.

You can clearly see the disruption the discharge causes from the shore and it goes out into the lake for several hundred yards.  At different times of day there is a larger flow of discharge water.  The plant uses coal and fuel oil for power.  It is used as a 'peaking' plant when demand for power suddenly jumps they can bring a fuel oil fired boiler up very fast.  It is not uncommon to see a huge cloud of black smoke over the plant around dinner time (peak demand). 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on September 09, 2014, 10:50:12 AM
Another incident in Bedford township on Telegraph.  A shooting.  I was thinking it's time for authorities to clean that area up.  There are calls everyday there.  But on the other hand it's out of the way and not bothering anyone else so maybe just leave them there.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 09, 2014, 10:54:09 AM
It won't be a danger in a few more years...  aren't they shutting the plant down?

Lots of Boaters are attracted to the discharges - because the water is warmer - Same for the Edison one, except they probably had a newer and safer discharge design...

The plant was originally going to be closed by right about now but has received a couple of extensions.  Seems like maybe a couple of more years right now but that is probably subject to change. 

The boaters (swimmers) were not attracted to the Luna Pier discharge like they are to the Monroe discharge water.  No hot water beach at Luna Pier like there is at Monroe.  I've seen 50-60 boats at the Monroe discharge.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 09, 2014, 10:55:52 AM
Another incident in Bedford township on Telegraph.  A shooting.  I was thinking it's time for authorities to clean that area up.  There are calls everyday there.  But on the other hand it's out of the way and not bothering anyone else so maybe just leave them there.

They headed right back to Toledo so most likely they were from Toledo...   

not sure how they'd go about cleaning it up...

stop every vehicle on Telegraph that has Ohio plates maybe ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 09, 2014, 11:00:48 AM
I thought the newspaper said they were fishing several hundred yards out, the signs would be hard to read from there. How powerful is that discharge at several hundred yards out? They must pump an awful lot of water to be tat powerful.

I try not to put too much faith into what I hear/read in any news report.  In two different articles yesterday on this subject the two reporters were using the same numbers (25-50) but one was using feet and the other yards...   there's a substantial difference between the two.

Many people have no concept of distance plus it's especially difficult to estimate distance over water without any real reference points.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 09, 2014, 12:37:51 PM
Another incident in Bedford township on Telegraph.  A shooting.  I was thinking it's time for authorities to clean that area up.  There are calls everyday there.  But on the other hand it's out of the way and not bothering anyone else so maybe just leave them there.


It's pretty hard to miss a silver Expedition at 1:30 in the morning:

http://www.nbc24.com/news/story.aspx?id=1094115#.VA8KzPldXh4 (http://www.nbc24.com/news/story.aspx?id=1094115#.VA8KzPldXh4)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on September 09, 2014, 03:34:00 PM
Another incident in Bedford township on Telegraph.  A shooting.  I was thinking it's time for authorities to clean that area up.  There are calls everyday there.  But on the other hand it's out of the way and not bothering anyone else so maybe just leave them there.

Clean it up?
You mean put the notels out of business?

If horny subject "A" is dumb enough to call a pimp
What can authorities do to prevent the robbery?  8*

I guess the good news for the locals is those are away from residential areas.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on September 09, 2014, 03:51:17 PM
That was my thoughts after thinking about. It's away from most everything and nobody is bothered.  Don't send the cops..Tell the motel owners to take care of it.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on September 09, 2014, 05:50:18 PM
 8)  I always wanted to go there, in the afternoon with my husband, and rent a room for just an hour. . .  8)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 09, 2014, 06:13:02 PM
Another incident in Bedford township on Telegraph.  A shooting.  I was thinking it's time for authorities to clean that area up.  There are calls everyday there.  But on the other hand it's out of the way and not bothering anyone else so maybe just leave them there.

Where exactly is this?  I run Telegraph north and south from Rauch to Lavoy all the time.  I take it you mean the cheap motels just north (and south of Lavoy?).
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on September 09, 2014, 06:51:08 PM
Yep that's the area.  All the hos and druggies hangout there i think
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on September 09, 2014, 06:56:03 PM
8)  I always wanted to go there, in the afternoon with my husband, and rent a room for just an hour. . .  8)

I won't say I've never used the amenities -   We even rented out most of the Bedford Motor Court for one of our after class reunion parties...   8)

Hot tub, mirrors, and water beds, heart shaped ones, and other themes throughout the years have attracted a few    ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 09, 2014, 09:02:15 PM
I won't say I've never used the amenities -   We even rented out most of the Bedford Motor Court for one of our after class reunion parties...   8)

Hot tub, mirrors, and water beds, heart shaped ones, and other themes throughout the years have attracted a few    ;)

Guess thats why we quit laying over our over the road drivers there....  They go to the Quality Inn on Alexis now.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 09, 2014, 09:04:09 PM
I don't want the to be construed as racial or ethnic intimidation but, aren't all those 'flea bags' owned by people of Arabic descent?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: sammy on September 09, 2014, 09:21:15 PM
I don't want the to be construed as racial or ethnic intimidation but, aren't all those 'flea bags' owned by people of Arabic descent?
So what? thirty years ago, they were the same, and not owned by people of Arabic descent..
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 09, 2014, 09:38:23 PM
So what? thirty years ago, they were the same, and not owned by people of Arabic descent..

Are they now or I presume they are...  Not sure.  They never seem to be very busy when I drive past.....

but then, maybe you don't have to be when you rent rooms by the hour.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on September 10, 2014, 09:38:46 AM
I don't want the to be construed as racial or ethnic intimidation but, aren't all those 'flea bags' owned by people of Arabic descent?
Not sure about the others - but the Motor Court isn't... 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 10, 2014, 11:43:22 PM
Not sure about the others - but the Motor Court isn't...

The reason I asked was, in all my travels arounf the country, it seems that evry motel I stay at is owned or run by people of Arabic descent.  I even stayed once in a Best Western in the middle of Iowa, I mean nowheresville, and it was run by a towelhead.  Probably thr only one for miles around in the middle of the cornbelt.....  wierd.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 12, 2014, 08:35:49 AM
Some people just have too much time on their hands...

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/12/mother-daughter-accused-damaging-bedford-field/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/12/mother-daughter-accused-damaging-bedford-field/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on September 12, 2014, 09:54:27 AM
I don't know if it's true or not, but I heard they put a giant sized penis on the ground, from one goal post to the other.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 12, 2014, 10:26:25 AM
I don't know if it's true or not, but I heard they put a giant sized penis on the ground, from one goal post to the other.

I've heard that same description used!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on September 12, 2014, 10:47:56 AM
I had a pic from my granddaughter.  I think the penis went across the field and just a strip of dead grass went the length of the field.  If someone doesn't post the pic I'll get it and put it up.
What the hell was a 50 year old woman thinking about that was part of this.  She has a problem and is not fit to be on he own if she thinks like that.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on September 12, 2014, 11:20:28 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/11/man-suffers-burns-monroe-porch-fire/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/11/man-suffers-burns-monroe-porch-fire/)


Sounds like it probably wasn't his own porch - as they are collecting "evidence"... 

Only Idiots use gasoline to start fires  8*
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 12, 2014, 11:35:46 AM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/11/man-suffers-burns-monroe-porch-fire/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/11/man-suffers-burns-monroe-porch-fire/[/url])


Sounds like it probably wasn't his own porch - as they are collecting "evidence"... 

Only Idiots use gasoline to start fires  8*


Sounds like a rescue call I heard...

it so then the burn 'victim' was in the back yard at the time...

not sure if that means it was a back porch or if he just managed to run that far 'before he ran out of gas' ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Maverick on September 12, 2014, 06:16:59 PM
I don't know if it's true or not, but I heard they put a giant sized penis on the ground, from one goal post to the other.
I say temporarily put some feet on the testicles and some horns on the tip and it will be an antlered giraffe and the field can still be used.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on September 12, 2014, 06:55:27 PM
LOL Good one Mav!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on September 12, 2014, 08:59:22 PM
Yeah it did go from one goal post to the other.  The pic i was was another field someone else had done and the Bedford mom an daug though it was funny so they duplicated it.
A 50 year old woman doing that isn't safe to be on her own.
A month ago a 46 year old woman in Bedford drove her kids around down letting them throw eggs at people and cars. She also though it was funny.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 12, 2014, 09:27:32 PM
I don't know if it's true or not, but I heard they put a giant sized penis on the ground, from one goal post to the other.

My question in all of this is....  Was the pecker flaccid or erect?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on September 12, 2014, 09:30:37 PM
Kind of humorous that mom participated - don't you think?

Great role model for todays youth?

Kid doesn't stand a chance.

Well, they can do their community service together.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 12, 2014, 09:34:58 PM
Cabdidly, I didn't lead a pristine childhood and my parents ocassionally participated in my pranks too.

I'm here and nt a felon or fugutive from justice....at least I don't believe I am.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on September 12, 2014, 09:37:37 PM
Never convicted?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 12, 2014, 09:47:04 PM
Only in Juvenile Court.  I raced a motorcycle cop with my 650 Triumph and beat his arse and he gave me a ticket.  Hardley riders have no sense of humor.

I lost my license for 6  months.  The referee in JC thought ir was funny that I moped up the cop.  The cop had no humor..... least thats how I remember it.

If I recollect it right, I pulled up next to him at a light and asked him if the potato bike would run and he said wanna find out, so when the light turned green, I smoked him.  Next light he smoked me. ;D

Ah to be young again.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 12, 2014, 09:48:22 PM
Harley's are slugs btw.  They are loud to make up for SLOW.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on September 12, 2014, 09:57:55 PM
The Sec of State took my license away for 30 days when I was a youth.

Not sure what it proved.

I had a whole 4 points on my license.

Just couldn't seem to clear that 3rd year of probation without picking up a ticket in the last two weeks.

Of course that was back when cops still had time to harass kids for the fun of it.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: sammy on September 12, 2014, 10:04:08 PM
Or, you deserved it. WAAH.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 12, 2014, 10:12:04 PM
Or, you deserved it. WAAH.

...and you were an angel....  RIGHT
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on September 13, 2014, 03:44:51 AM
was listening to a Bedford parent at dinner - they said the woman used something like roundup to make the penis, and that they heard it was about 9 thousand to replace the sod...    so a "prank" if that's what it was has reached the $$ amount of a potential felony... Malicious destruction of property,   probably doubled since on school property.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on September 13, 2014, 05:22:27 AM
Or, you deserved it. WAAH.

Maybe.  Who knows.

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on September 13, 2014, 05:36:15 AM
Cabdidly, I didn't lead a pristine childhood and my parents ocassionally participated in my pranks too.

I'm here and nt a felon or fugutive from justice....at least I don't believe I am.

LOL, I have to admit that I participated in pranks with my children and their friends on more than one occasion too.  I giggled as much as they did as we were pulling them off.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on September 13, 2014, 05:52:41 AM
I still remember about some of the completely senseless destruction done as a youth, that no doubt others had to clean up after.

Years later I got to be good friends with one of the guys whose lives was disrupted as a result of my antics.

I still haven't told him that I had a part in it.

I know the statute of limitations is up, but best not to talk about these things.

It all started as good fun, but when it started to get on the front page above the fold, you had to ask yourself what the heck are you thinking, and you realize you aren't thinking.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on September 13, 2014, 05:58:47 AM
Humm........was a school teacher involved, and with her husband upstairs with the kids?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on September 13, 2014, 06:33:07 AM
Humm........was a school teacher involved, and with her husband upstairs with the kids?

Nope - but that was a friend, and he wasn't thinking either, at least not with the big head.

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 13, 2014, 09:29:44 AM
was listening to a Bedford parent at dinner - they said the woman used something like roundup to make the penis, and that they heard it was about 9 thousand to replace the sod...    so a "prank" if that's what it was has reached the $$ amount of a potential felony... Malicious destruction of property,   probably doubled since on school property.

Maybe they should change the name from the Bedford 'Mules" to the Bedford 'Dicks"....   just say'in. ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on September 13, 2014, 09:39:09 AM
I did hear one comment that as long as this was on the field neither team would be able to get beyond 'third and schlong'!!!

I've heard damage reports approaching $20K!  Sounds like the parents and other volunteers are doing most of the work and a landscape company has supplied the replacement sod at their cost. 

Here's a report from WDIV:

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/vandals-use-grass-killer-to-make-graphic-imprint-on-bedford-high-school-football-field/28030786 (http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/vandals-use-grass-killer-to-make-graphic-imprint-on-bedford-high-school-football-field/28030786)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on September 13, 2014, 09:46:02 AM
I still remember about some of the completely senseless destruction done as a youth, that no doubt others had to clean up after.


Toilet papering, and collecting a trunk full of for sale signs - to put in one persons yard  ;D
nothing destructive here... 

We heard from the female who's house was the for sale target -
the Monroe Police knocked on their door and told her dad they were limited to one sign  ;D

I'm sure we didn't make friends with the realtors in the area - but hey we were having clean fun...
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on September 13, 2014, 09:49:43 AM
I did hear one comment that as long as this was on the field neither team would be able to get beyond 'third and schlong'!!!

I've heard damage reports approaching $20K!  Sounds like the parents and other volunteers are doing most of the work and a landscape company has supplied the replacement sod at their cost. 

Here's a report from WDIV:

[url]http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/vandals-use-grass-killer-to-make-graphic-imprint-on-bedford-high-school-football-field/28030786[/url] ([url]http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/vandals-use-grass-killer-to-make-graphic-imprint-on-bedford-high-school-football-field/28030786[/url])


Someone in my elimination football pool
(you pick a team every week but can't re-use that team - two losses and you're out)
is using that 3rd and Shlong name  ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 13, 2014, 09:53:10 AM
Toilet papering, and collecting a trunk full of for sale signs - to put in one persons yard  ;D
nothing destructive here... 

We heard from the female who's house was the for sale target -
the Monroe Police knocked on their door and told her dad they were limited to one sign  ;D

I'm sure we didn't make friends with the realtors in the area - but hey we were having clean fun...

oh really...  Looks like theft of someone else's property to me....
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 13, 2014, 09:55:35 AM
Which is really the basis for all the crap going on....  where do you draw the line, how do you intrepret actions outside of the workplace and how do you act on those actions in a responsible manner?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on September 16, 2014, 08:02:49 AM
Quote
For six months, Carol Tilley had to prove she was still alive. 


When her husband, Nathan, died of cancer in late January, the Social Security Administration listed her as the one who died.


“It’s ridiculous,” said Mrs. Tilley, 67, of Brownstown Township. “It’s hard enough getting used to Nathan not being here, then this stuff goes on.”


Fixing the error was no easy process.

Read more at: [url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/16/area-woman-mistakenly-listed-having-died/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/16/area-woman-mistakenly-listed-having-died/[/url])


Nice!  How do you prove you aren't dead?  You would think showing up in an office would be enough.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on September 16, 2014, 07:55:38 PM
oh really...  Looks like theft of someone else's property to me....
40 years ago - people had more common sense than to equate this stuff to be "theft"... 

I guess all pranks could be considered a crime in some form - now a days
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on September 17, 2014, 02:50:02 PM
http://m.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/17/two-thugs-rob-luna-pier-motel-workers/?templates=mobile (http://m.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/17/two-thugs-rob-luna-pier-motel-workers/?templates=mobile)


We need a boarder patrol at the state line! :)

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on September 17, 2014, 03:01:33 PM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/17/skunk-head-stuck-beer-can-rescued-ohio/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/17/skunk-head-stuck-beer-can-rescued-ohio/)


A bit like: Drunk as a skunk! LOL
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: tnweasel on September 17, 2014, 09:59:45 PM
watching the replay of today's The View.....not sure why but I am.....Monroe Michigan father who sat with son holding "I hit girls" sign topic of debate between Whoopi Goldberg and the others....not sure if this has been noted on any other part of MEN....but Whoopi defended the dad while the other three condemned his actions......
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 17, 2014, 10:59:32 PM
Been thinking about the coon  in the transformer I moved this afternoon.  He got across the T1 and T2 legs and got cooked.  Maintenance pulled the transformer and it's been sitting in the warehouse for a year.  He's well preserved, cooked nicely and dehydrated.  Has all his hair yet, just a big black spot on his belly where he closed the circuit.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on September 18, 2014, 10:56:55 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/18/motorcylist-injured-crash/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/18/motorcylist-injured-crash/)


Got to watch out for those little garbage trucks!

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on September 18, 2014, 12:20:40 PM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/18/new-monroe-fire-chief-ready-move-forward/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/18/new-monroe-fire-chief-ready-move-forward/)

New Chief - Rob Wight

Hopefully the department can be revived, as 9 people can't man 2 stations let alone one...   for 24/7 coverage.   
Glad to see he is a proponent to keeping Paramedics as well.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Tiny on September 23, 2014, 09:19:40 PM
Heard on the scanner about 8:45 a roll over PI accident on North bound I-75 at the 19 mile marker. Vehicle is on the passenger side and on fire with people trapped inside.

There has been a constant stream of emergency vehicles going by for half an hour now.
At least three ambulances and tons of fire vehicles. They also called out Berlin Twp.

Must be a real bad scene.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on September 25, 2014, 02:34:56 PM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/25/mercy-memorial-promedica-official-join/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/25/mercy-memorial-promedica-official-join/)

It's official - (January first)...   wonder what the new name will be?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on September 26, 2014, 03:51:00 PM
http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26630421/police-toledo-couple-indicted-for-running-brothel-in-west-toledo (http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26630421/police-toledo-couple-indicted-for-running-brothel-in-west-toledo)


Looks like some people will have to find a new favorite spot!  ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on September 26, 2014, 09:25:48 PM
2 years of taxpayer money spent to collect evidence against something that should be legal to begin with.  I believe the time, effort, and dollars would have been better spent towards say violent crime.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 26, 2014, 10:13:03 PM
+1

They will probably set up housekeeping in one of those motels on Telegraph near the Michigan line where rooms rent by 15 minute intervals. ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Maverick on September 26, 2014, 11:56:38 PM
2 years of taxpayer money spent to collect evidence against something that should be legal to begin with.  I believe the time, effort, and dollars would have been better spent towards say violent crime.

Or Heroin
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on September 27, 2014, 05:25:23 AM
Yea, you get my point Mav.  That is poor decisions made at the top and to me shows lack of leadership and misdirection considering the major issues of today.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on September 27, 2014, 07:56:54 AM
It's easier to catch gamblers, prostitutes and jaywalkers...  than say Heroin Dealers.

Two years!   LOL   
I wonder how many visits it took by the investigators  ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on September 27, 2014, 10:30:30 AM
I think it is ludicrous, and what exist in most LE agencies is misdirected focus on what the real crimes are in this country that the people want under control.....primarily their safety against violent crime.

They focus on either petty stuff that has little to no bearing on public safety, or on the things that generate revenue.  I'd much rather see the highway patrol masses that exist in this country on city streets versus highways.  There has to be some presence I admit to slow down reckless driving.....but to the magnitude I see them, NFW.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 27, 2014, 10:09:25 PM
It's easier to catch gamblers, prostitutes and jaywalkers...  than say Heroin Dealers.

Two years!   LOL   
I wonder how many visits it took by the investigators  ;D

What probably brought it to a head (so to speak ;D) was one of the 'investigative team' got the clapp or something and that blew the lid off the 'investigation'.

Everyone knows how that crap plays but no one talks about it.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 27, 2014, 10:10:36 PM
From what I've observed, most Toldeo cops are less than stellar citizens.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on September 28, 2014, 05:08:41 AM
I can imagine that cop coming home and telling his wife what a great day he had at work.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on September 28, 2014, 09:01:33 AM
I can imagine that cop coming home and telling his wife what a great day he had at work.
Adds new meaning to the term "under cover"...  as well  ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: ShorTea on September 29, 2014, 10:40:23 PM
Turtle smuggling' Canadian arrested http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-29387239 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-29387239)

Keep the turtles out of your pants !!!!  LOL
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Debimark on October 01, 2014, 07:20:29 AM
A migrant worker was shot in the field?  By home owners target shooting????

Live here all 49 years and have never heard anything like this before.
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/30/worker-shot-during-target-shooting/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/30/worker-shot-during-target-shooting/)


Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on October 01, 2014, 07:32:27 AM
Wow!  Now what would be the situation if they had shot a 10 year old?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on October 01, 2014, 07:36:05 AM
http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26672928/paralysis-cases-in-children-baffle-doctors (http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26672928/paralysis-cases-in-children-baffle-doctors)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on October 01, 2014, 07:38:13 AM
http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/09/enterovirus_d68_leads_to_hospi.html (http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/09/enterovirus_d68_leads_to_hospi.html)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on October 01, 2014, 05:50:08 PM
Great we have undocumented people bringing in Virus' and documented ones bringing in Ebola... 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on October 01, 2014, 08:40:43 PM
Future Politician for a small Michigan Community...   ;D

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/27/michigan-teacher-admits-having-sex-student/?top-stories (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/27/michigan-teacher-admits-having-sex-student/?top-stories)   
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on October 01, 2014, 10:56:17 PM
Future Politician for a small Michigan Community...   ;D

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/27/michigan-teacher-admits-having-sex-student/?top-stories[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/sep/27/michigan-teacher-admits-having-sex-student/?top-stories[/url])


Why not? 

I'm sure someone can tell us all why it's okay.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Debimark on October 02, 2014, 08:29:08 AM
A homicide in Monroe.  Sad.  26 yo victim............very young.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on October 02, 2014, 02:52:26 PM
http://www.ketknbc.com/news/teachers-accused-of-threesome-with-louisiana-stude (http://www.ketknbc.com/news/teachers-accused-of-threesome-with-louisiana-stude)

LSU must teach them threesomes are okay...   they just forgot that the third party should be 18
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on October 02, 2014, 03:32:11 PM
Why not? 

I'm sure someone can tell us all why it's okay.

I'd have to draw the line on that one because the kid was only 14, unlike the one you took so much offense to here in town where the kid was 18.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 02, 2014, 06:16:31 PM
I'd have to draw the line on that one because the kid was only 14, unlike the one you took so much offense to here in town where the kid was 18.

Touche'
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on October 02, 2014, 09:56:12 PM
I'd have to draw the line on that one because the kid was only 14, unlike the one you took so much offense to here in town where the kid was 18.

I'm not going to get sucked into it again Fuzz.

If you want to relive the whole debate please go read the old thread.

I guess some people trust the molester on what the facts were and how innocent and loving it all was.

Also, there was more than one, but hey, who is counting?  Guess we ignore the Hubby and Kids that were hurt in the whole deal too.  Screw them, who cares about them? 

Anyhow, can't really talk to him about it cause he isn't around anymore for whatever reason, which by the way still bums the heck out of me and a few others around town.

Oh well.  Very sad. 

We will have to take her word for it that she didn't do anything wrong, and of course her giant cheering section on Monroe Talks, of which you are the ring leader.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on October 03, 2014, 07:57:41 AM
The first irony in your post is that you have no clue how to rationally and intelligently debate a topic without turning it into twisted words and misrepresenting questions not meant to be rhetorical.  It's why most people, including your allies, stay away from your posts.

I don't know the history or the details of what happened here in town, all I saw out of it was two consenting adults who got busted.  I could have cared less and would not have been a cheerleader for that but saw just how much it got under your skin that I supported her in words.  Again, you are so easy.......just like at work.

My point was clear.......I stated that I draw the line where this was wrong because the kid was 14.

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 03, 2014, 05:51:57 PM
...and I just want to take video's. ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on October 03, 2014, 07:19:24 PM
...and I just want to take video's. ;D

You know how big a video recorder was back in the 1980s?

You would strain your back trying, and the battery wouldn't last as long as a teenager.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 03, 2014, 11:07:27 PM
Probably not.  I still have my original bag phone in the attic.  Maybe someday I'll off it on Flea Bay.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on October 05, 2014, 11:21:12 PM
Monroe native to show film

Read more at: http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/oct/05/monroe-native-show-film/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/oct/05/monroe-native-show-film/)

I was thinking -
What kind of Film would you expect from MN?  ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 06, 2014, 12:03:27 AM
Not our 'Monroe Native' for sure.  His films are probably porno's.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on October 06, 2014, 07:16:48 AM
Naw.....his film would be on how to win friends and influence people.   ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on October 06, 2014, 08:45:19 AM
...greatest moments of City Council meetings.

...Dash cam favorites of the hood


Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on October 06, 2014, 09:29:47 PM
...greatest moments of City Council meetings.

...Dash cam favorites of the hood

First would be dad.....

Second would be the past time of the Russians.

It is simply amazing how many awesome facial expressions you can get of a councilperson if you point a video camera at them for an entire meeting.  Everything from elation to looking like they ate something that didn't agree with them and it was just about to come back up. 

I think the stills are still posted online if anyone would like to see the evidence of this awesome scientific study.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on October 06, 2014, 09:34:22 PM
LOL   I remember those...   

If your dad is who I think - I enjoyed his involvement.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on October 06, 2014, 10:06:36 PM
Was one of the most hilarious things I've ever seen.  Classic.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on October 07, 2014, 08:47:13 AM
I'm guessing this woman will now have to install a much tougher fence and perhaps add some electronic surveillance and a pit bull or two :o :o :o

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/oct/07/10-pot-plants-stolen-bedford/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/oct/07/10-pot-plants-stolen-bedford/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on October 07, 2014, 12:29:41 PM
Unfortunate!  The bandits had probably been watching those plants for a while and knew that harvest time is upon us.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on October 07, 2014, 12:59:38 PM
The Ebola patient that came into our country lying about his exposure to Ebola has cause the state of Texas taxpayers $65,000 to clean up his apartment. 
Keep em coming obama you dumb arse
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 07, 2014, 02:16:33 PM
I heard there is another reported case.....  in Texas.

65 grand is a drop in the bucket considering what the end cost to Texas will be in lost tourism dollars...  Lots of folks won't be going there....

Wonder where the 'next case' will surface.

I agree, Obama is a dumb arse.

Lots of people I know are ready to button down and get serious about this.....
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 07, 2014, 02:18:23 PM
I dread to imagine what the hospital/treatment costs are.  Typically, a 24 hour stay in ICU is over 7 grand.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: livewire on October 07, 2014, 11:58:43 PM
I dread to imagine what the hospital/treatment costs are.  Typically, a 24 hour stay in ICU is over 7 grand.

Yeah, but with Obamacare, that's all FREEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 08, 2014, 12:09:22 AM
Yeah, but with Obamacare, that's all FREEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

Where are you getting that good angel dust you are huff'in.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on October 08, 2014, 09:50:53 AM
How could you walk out of the Monroe Walmart with 110 cases of Pepsi?
A 25-year-old Monroe man is being questioned in connection with the theft of more than 110 cases of Pepsi products valued at more than $1,000 from Walmart in Frenchtown Township. According to the Monroe County Sheriff’s Office, the cases were taken on various dates between May 25 and June 17. The only items recovered were the products taken June 17; they were returned to the store at 2150 N. Telegraph Rd. A video surveillance camera shows a man taking the products from a shelf. A report of the incident has been forwarded to the Monroe County Prosecutor’s Office for possible charges.

Read more at: http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/oct/07/110-cases-pepsi-stolen-monroe-walmart/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/oct/07/110-cases-pepsi-stolen-monroe-walmart/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on October 08, 2014, 10:13:31 AM
That is one heck of a caffeine  addiction.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on October 08, 2014, 11:09:22 AM
May and June and it's just now making the "news"...   

Probably required hours of overtime and deep thought -
to see if they wanted to press charges
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on October 08, 2014, 11:13:00 AM
Think this will make the National News???
Liberals only like storys when cops arrest bad guys

 By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS As of Tuesday, October 7, 2014, 11:47 p.m. Discuss Comment, Share this Email, Facebook, Twitter Video Instead of ticket, Michigan officer buys girl booster seat photo In this photo provided by Emmett Township, Mich., Department of Public Safety is Officer Ben Hall. Hall said was on patrol Friday, Oct. 3, 2014 when he stopped a vehicle Alexis DeLorenzo was driving following a report of an unsecured young child inside. Instead of ticketing DeLorenzo, who told him that she had fallen on tough times, Hall asked her to meet him at a local store where he bought a booster seat for her 5-year-old daughter. (AP Photo/Emmett Township Department of Public Safety) EMMETT TOWNSHIP, Mich. (AP) — A Michigan officer who pulled over a vehicle because a 5-year-old girl wasn't secured in a booster seat decided a ticket wouldn't cut it. Instead, Emmett Township public safety officer Ben Hall bought her a seat. "A ticket doesn't solve the situation," Hall told WXMI-TV. "What solves it is the child being in the booster seat like she should be. It was the easiest 50 bucks I ever spent." Hall was on patrol Friday in the southern Michigan community when he pulled over the vehicle after someone reported that it had an unsecured young child inside. Alexis DeLorenzo and her daughter were riding with a friend, and Hall said DeLorenzo told him that she had fallen on hard times and couldn't afford a booster seat. "I was in a spot where I could help her," Hall said. DeLorenzo said she knew that they could have been ticketed, but instead, DeLorenzo told her to meet him at a Wal-Mart, where he bought her the seat. "It changed my life," DeLorenzo said. "I'm never going to forget him. And neither will my daughter."

Read more at: http://www.bedfordnow.com/news/2014/oct/07/instead-ticket-michigan-officer-buys-girl-booster-/ (http://www.bedfordnow.com/news/2014/oct/07/instead-ticket-michigan-officer-buys-girl-booster-/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on October 08, 2014, 11:19:53 AM
Think this will make the National News???
Liberals only like storys when cops arrest bad guys


I've been seeing it on some 'national' news services for a couple of days now...

a quick Google search shows over 4000 articles so far...

https://www.google.com/#q=michigan+officer+booster+seat&tbm=nws (https://www.google.com/#q=michigan+officer+booster+seat&tbm=nws)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on October 08, 2014, 11:25:04 AM
Interesting that this was the topic of a class I taught last week dealing with "customer service"...   

I had lots of Fire Department examples - but no one could think of one for the police.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on October 08, 2014, 08:10:49 PM

Can't believe no one posted this yet![/size]

County board calls for resignation of road commissioner
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[/size] Jeff Zink said he apologized for a remark made at a road commission meeting that was termed inappropriate and offensive to people with disabilities.[/font][/size]

BY DEAN COUSINO
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dean@monroenews.com[/color][/size]
[/size]

Monroe County commissioners are seeking the resignation of Road Commissioner Jeff Zink for a comment he made at a road board meeting last month that was offensive to a road commission employee in the audience who has a disability.

County commissioners voted 8-0 Tuesday night to send a letter from the board to Mr. Zink asking that he resign immediately for making a comment at a Sept. 22 meeting that was deemed offensive to people with disabilities.

The board made the move after Gary Williams, a road commission employee for almost 14 years, and his wife, Chrissy, brought the matter to the board.

“ It deeply hurt me,” Mr. Williams told the board. “ I was at the meeting because I wanted to
[/size] get more involved at work. When he said what he did, I raised my hand to speak and said, ‘Are you kidding me?’ It hit me hard.”

Mr. Williams, 50, lost two fingers on his left hand and the tips of two other fingers on his right hand from an accident in 1998. He once worked as a mechanic for the county agency but is now working with the drain tile crew.

According to Mr. Williams and Commissioner David Hoffman, who was at the road meeting, the board was discussing a request from Managing Director Randy Pierce to hire a mechanic because the department was short of help.

The board backed the idea and Mr. Zink commented, “If you’re short- handed, make sure you hire a guy with 10 fingers,” Mr. Williams said.
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See
[/size] ZINK,[/size] Page [/color][/size][/size] I’m sorry anybody took offense. I don’t go around intentionally trying to hurt someone.”[/size]

— Jeff Zink
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Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 08, 2014, 08:25:38 PM
Zink apologized that should be sufficient.  Resign, hell no.  Everyone makes mistakes ocassionally.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on October 08, 2014, 09:57:04 PM
To Defend Mr Zink.....

In MOST cases having 10 fingers is a benefit for a mechanic.

Can you overcome not having a few digits?

Sure.

Here is the thing that is frightening me about this country more and more.

No one can take a frigging joke anymore. 

There is a sizable portion of our society that just gets bent out of shape and goes off the deep end and wants the death sentence for the slightest offence and they want to impose their version of political correctness on everyone.  People actually go around LOOKING for reasons to be offended at things so they can be outraged and campaign and be righteous.

It is getting old.

It is time the pendulum swings back the other way for awhile.

Oh wait - there is one group you are free to **** on and offend - White Male Christians.  You can **** on them all day.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Tiny on October 08, 2014, 10:18:37 PM
How could you walk out of the Monroe Walmart with 110 cases of Pepsi?
A 25-year-old Monroe man is being questioned in connection with the theft of more than 110 cases of Pepsi products valued at more than $1,000 from Walmart in Frenchtown Township. According to the Monroe County Sheriff’s Office, the cases were taken on various dates between May 25 and June 17. The only items recovered were the products taken June 17; they were returned to the store at 2150 N. Telegraph Rd. A video surveillance camera shows a man taking the products from a shelf. A report of the incident has been forwarded to the Monroe County Prosecutor’s Office for possible charges.

Read more at: [url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/oct/07/110-cases-pepsi-stolen-monroe-walmart/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/oct/07/110-cases-pepsi-stolen-monroe-walmart/[/url])


If Walmart charges $1,000 for 110 cases seems to me Walmart is robbing everyone else. That's $9 a case for Pepsi. 

I'll bet Miejer has that much walk right out the door every week. Sometime sit in the bench up front and watch people just walk out the door with carts full of unpaid for stuff.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on October 08, 2014, 10:52:27 PM
Can't believe no one posted this yet![/size]

County board calls for resignation of road commissioner
[/size]


Ya had me going - I thought they were calling for all of them to resign... 

but then they didn't have the Cojones to do it when they had the chance...   >:(
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Maverick on October 08, 2014, 10:57:58 PM
Agreed,
He thought he was being funny. The remark was in no way intended for the offended party.
I know mr Mr Zink well and he has an exceptionally dry sense of humor. Regardless he is an excellent Road Commissioner even if he put his foot in his mouth momentarily.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 08, 2014, 11:19:33 PM
Agreed,
He thought he was being funny. The remark was in no way intended for the offended party.
I know mr Mr Zink well and he has an exceptionally dry sense of humor. Regardless he is an excellent Road Commissioner even if he put his foot in his mouth momentarily.

Is he related to the Tinman?.....lol

We all do it.  The guy in the audinence that pushed it was IMO, very immature, typical road commish employee.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Maverick on October 09, 2014, 12:32:19 AM
Selling that hay or keeping it ?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on October 09, 2014, 07:42:07 AM
Have the police solved the murder yet?   The recent Stabbing at the craps game...  ?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 10, 2014, 12:06:56 AM
Selling that hay or keeping it ?

Feeding the nags with it.  I have plenty for sale but it's all squares.  The nags get rounds.  My new NH 450 U is tits.  Too bad the payment is not tits.  I need 30 rolls for the winter.......  I have 30.  I also have about 10 acres left in alfalfa/red clover that needs run.  Gonna wait for a freeze to render the alfalfa dormant and then run it.....  in rounds too.

Gonna buy a new rake this winter.  That will make all the equipment less than 5 years old, except the tractor, but it's pre-tier 4 so I'll keep it.  I don't want anything to do with Tier 4 Final tractors or trucks.  Bad Ju-Ju.

Just changed the oil and sent a sample to Blackstone.  I have to change the Hy-trans fluid yet and send in a sample as well.  Filters, oil, and hydraulic oil (I use all synthetic) is about 500 bucks a shot.

Like J, Paul Getty said....."You have to spend money to make money"......  problem is, I spend more than I make.....
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: nails on October 10, 2014, 03:37:37 PM

Zink apologized that should be sufficient.  Resign, hell no.  Everyone makes mistakes ocassionally.

Another commissioner gets a third time DUI with jail, and he still sits on the board.
Does anyone else see a problem here.
An inadvertent bad joke, doesn't equate to a bad commissioner.
As stated, we've all done it.

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 10, 2014, 08:44:31 PM
If I was Mr. Zink and was asked (verbally or in writing to resign), I'd ignore it.  Incident blown out of proportion.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on October 10, 2014, 10:30:24 PM
I guess I am happy that my County can afford to employ an handicapped person on our crews out there.

Also thrilled that our County Employees have time to attend the meetings and be involved and lobby for things that the rest of us don't care about.

Isn't that how we got in this mess in the first place?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Tiny on October 10, 2014, 11:05:45 PM
A tandem steel scrap hauler pulled into Pilot on Nadeau Rd tonight and must have been going too fast. Hit the cement blocks along side the driveway and flipped the cab and the first trailer full of steel scrap. I took some pictures then noticed someone in a shirt and tie taking pictures probably from the MEN.

Trucks couldn't get into Pilot for several hours while they cleaned up the mess.

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/oct/11/truck-rolls-over-nadeau-rd-pilot/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/oct/11/truck-rolls-over-nadeau-rd-pilot/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 11, 2014, 07:58:55 AM
R&M Recycling per chance?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on October 11, 2014, 09:01:03 AM

A tandem steel scrap hauler pulled into Pilot on Nadeau Rd tonight and must have been going too fast. Hit the cement blocks along side the driveway and flipped the cab and the first trailer full of steel scrap. I took some pictures then noticed someone in a shirt and tie taking pictures probably from the MEN.

Trucks couldn't get into Pilot for several hours while they cleaned up the mess.

Is the road still deep rutted along the approach?   
that always worried me going through there - but it's been a while
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on October 11, 2014, 09:17:06 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/oct/11/city-monroe-continues-marijuana-moratorium/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/oct/11/city-monroe-continues-marijuana-moratorium/)

What I would be curious of is if this decision is being based on statistics inside the state of Michigan where judicial decisions have been handed down, or if it is just an excuse to hide behind with the conflicting Federal law.

Quote
Medical marijuana growers and dispensers will have to wait at least another year before trying to open up shop in Monroe. The Monroe City Council Monday night extended its moratorium on that activity due to the concern over the legality of growing and selling the drug. Under the moratorium, the city will not accept applications, licenses or permits for businesses for growing, selling or dispensing medical marijuana for one year. Though the state passed the Michigan Medical Marihuana Act in 2008, making such activity legal, the federal government still regulates marijuana as a schedule 1 drug, which means it’s not accepted for medical use.

Read more at: [url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/oct/11/city-monroe-continues-marijuana-moratorium/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/oct/11/city-monroe-continues-marijuana-moratorium/[/url])
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on October 11, 2014, 09:23:18 AM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/oct/11/city-monroe-continues-marijuana-moratorium/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/oct/11/city-monroe-continues-marijuana-moratorium/[/url])

What I would be curious of is if this decision is being based on statistics inside the state of Michigan where judicial decisions have been handed down, or if it is just an excuse to hide behind with the conflicting Federal law.




For heaven sake it's legal in Colorado and the Feds haven't move in...

Monroe is just waiting for Custer to return for leadership it seems

They must not need the tax revenues anymore!

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: CatLady on October 11, 2014, 09:23:45 AM
Since moratoriums are supposed to be of short duration, I would think a court challenge would find a 3 year moratorium excessive. 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on October 11, 2014, 09:26:08 AM
.......and that was what I suspected.  I sure hope Custer comes back soon; I'd rather retire in Michigan versus Colorado.

Back home, we would refer to that decision as a lack of balls.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on October 11, 2014, 09:28:06 AM
Since moratoriums are supposed to be of short duration, I would think a court challenge would find a 3 year moratorium excessive.

Hummm, good point.  Perhaps I should submit that proposal to NORML to see if I can get my money's worth of contributions I have given over the years.   ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: CatLady on October 11, 2014, 09:29:52 AM
The "do nothing, it will go away" approach usually doesn't work.  Since the courts have already found the MMMA does not allow dispensaries or clubs, really all they need to do is regulate where and how private caregivers operate.  Any planner could help them with that in about an hour.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on October 11, 2014, 09:31:15 AM
They figure no one is going to challenge - because it costs $$ to do so...

unless they sue for the restitution costs of the suit in addition.   
I'd be willing to bet a NORML attorney would be available  ;D

The City has paid off others for less than what this would costs if you're ready to open that "farm"
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Maverick on October 11, 2014, 01:49:44 PM
Although the article says that the moratorium does not allow private growing I don't think that is true. A local ordinance cannot trump state law. They can restrict dispensaries and commercial grows greater than the state allowed limit but legal grows under the act are not affected by this moratorium.But extending the moratorium is in fact just a chickens hit way to avoid making a decision. If legally challenged the city would lose. Allow it or disallow it. Those are your only two choices after a reasonable moratorium.

Mav
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on October 11, 2014, 11:04:16 PM
You are allowed to do everything permitted by state law with the moratorium in place.

No additional restrictions are put on as a result of the moratorium.

All the City is saying is they are not entering the fray.

What is so hard to understand about that?

It is like don't ask don't tell.  Just follow the state law and hope the feds leave you alone.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on October 12, 2014, 07:55:32 AM
Well.....we are going to agree to disagree once again, and I'm not going to be at all surprised if you add another one of your labels to me as a stoner, drunkard, liberal, racist, bully, A hole (I think I'm going to have that put on a bumper sticker since it's too large for personalized license plates).

The only way I would support the position of not entering the fray is if there are a fair amount of municipalities in the State of Michigan, where popular vote legalized it for medicinal purposes, are fighting court battles with the Feds over said violation of Federal law.

In absence of such, it's a classic display of being chickenshit, and violates the will of the people.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Maverick on October 12, 2014, 09:59:24 AM
Legalize it, tax it, and use all of the tax money for fixing local roads. How can it be more simple or perfect ?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on October 12, 2014, 10:10:49 AM
I DO NOT want this county road commission using pot money, they act way too stoned in their decision making abilities already.   ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: CatLady on October 12, 2014, 10:59:07 AM
You are allowed to do everything permitted by state law with the moratorium in place.

No additional restrictions are put on as a result of the moratorium.

All the City is saying is they are not entering the fray.

What is so hard to understand about that?

It is like don't ask don't tell.  Just follow the state law and hope the feds leave you alone.

The moritorium means you cannot grow or dispense in the City of Monroe  even if you have a MMMA card .  It's not that there are no additional restrictions, it means don't ask because the answer is "no."  To me, that is a cop out.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on October 12, 2014, 06:31:17 PM
The moratorium means you cannot grow or dispense in the City of Monroe  even if you have a MMMA card .  It's not that there are no additional restrictions, it means don't ask because the answer is "no."  To me, that is a cop out.

CatLady.

You are TOTALLY incorrect.

In am sure you know there is a hierarchy of laws - or at least there is supposed to be.

It is supposed to go in something like this order.

US Constitution
Federal Law
State Constitution
State Law
Local Charter
Local Ordinances

I've been in three different meetings where the City Attorney in VERY PLAIN language said that the Citizens of Monroe are free to do anything permitted by State Medical Marijuana Act - if they follow the law - and the law enforcement at the STATE and MUNICIPAL levels are bound by the law to leave them alone if they do so.

The County Prosecutor came to another meeting and said the same thing.

Now the Feds - that is a whole other matter - because growing a possessing Marijuana as described in the Medical Marijuana act is still not exactly legal according to the Feds - but there is NOTHING a City Council can do about that.

So the Moratorium means go do what you are going to do.  The State Law is there.  Go read it and follow it if you so desire to do so.  Don't ask the city.  They don't want to know.

If you come down to the City and tell them you want to grow your 72 plants in your house they will probably give you a copy of the law and hope you understand it and tell you that you are on your own.  They aren't going to tell you not to do it.  They aren't going to inspect you.  They aren't going to tell you not to do it.  If you have a card you can go ahead and do it if you follow the law.

Why is that a cop out exactly?

Frankly the whole issue was full of complications - the biggest being that it is in fact against Federal Law. 

More complications - there are rules about protecting the confidentiality of medical records and patients - which this whole subject breaches.

More complications - everything at a Government level is supposed to be "Public Record" - right?  Say your neighbor wants a grow operation per the Medical Marijuana Act....  and will be distributing from their house....  how do you go about approving that use? 

Wait a minute - the person is not only a provider - they are also the patient - and they want it confidential.  Now you can't PUBLISH the meeting is happening.  What do you do now?  Generally if you grant a home business in a residential you notify everyone around that you are having a hearing - at least if it is a daycare or something like that....  but this has to be confidential - cause it is a medical record?

Well - does the fact that you are a patient and a provider have to be publicized on the application - or only the use?

Here is another problem that law enforcement brought up.....  Places with lots of pot plants tend to get knocked off, and often they get knocked off somewhat violently.  72 pot plants can be worth a tidy sum of money I am told.  I am also told that operations like this can have cash laying around?  So you publish that you approved an operation at XXXX Elm Avenue.  X number of months later it is knocked off.  It is like you are publishing a where to go to steal pot guide.  So should you not publish that you are approving a home business use for a Medical Marijuana Grow Operation?  It sure sounds like it to me.

This is all things that were talked about - the pros and cons of doing something versus doing nothing.

Given that people could follow the law while the city did nothing - that made the most sense to the groups I was around who have discussed this issue.

I'll also say that none of the groups EVER got into a discussion on the pros and cons of Medical Marijuana, and whether it should be legal or not.  It was only a discussion on the nuts and bolts of trying to administer it from a zoning enforcement angle. 

There are many cases being fought out in court from municipalities who tried to legislate their way through this through zoning - but met someone who didn't like their legislation.  None of us wanted Monroe to join that club.

What has your township done?  I am sure since you are critical of the City of Monroe your Township must have a fully implemented policy.  I am curious as to what that is?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: CatLady on October 12, 2014, 10:16:18 PM

Why is that a cop out exactly?

A Washtenaw County Circuit Court judge,  Archie Brown, has ruled that the Michigan Medical Marihuana Act does not pre-empt local zoning laws regulating the production and distribution of the drug.  The state law does not say where medical marijuana can and cannot be grown.  “There are no provisions in the MMMA that prohibit municipalities from adopting zoning ordinances regulating where medical marijuana caregivers can grow and dispense marijuana for other patients,” Brown wrote in his ruling.  According to state law, a person with a medical marijuana patient’s card can grow up to 12 plants for his or her personal use.  State law says registered caregivers can grow up to 72 plants for up to five patients and their own personal use.  Residents holding their medical marijuana card are currently allowed to use and carry authorized amounts of marijuana, according to Michigan law, but the moratorium stops the distribution.


Frankly the whole issue was full of complications - the biggest being that it is in fact against Federal Law. 

More complications - there are rules about protecting the confidentiality of medical records and patients - which this whole subject breaches.

More complications - everything at a Government level is supposed to be "Public Record" - right?  Say your neighbor wants a grow operation per the Medical Marijuana Act....  and will be distributing from their house....  how do you go about approving that use? 

Wait a minute - the person is not only a provider - they are also the patient - and they want it confidential.  Now you can't PUBLISH the meeting is happening.  What do you do now?  Generally if you grant a home business in a residential you notify everyone around that you are having a hearing - at least if it is a daycare or something like that....  but this has to be confidential - cause it is a medical record.

If there is a public hearing depends on the zoning ordinance.  We do not hold public hearings on home occupation applications.


What has your township done?  I am sure since you are critical of the City of Monroe your Township must have a fully implemented policy.  I am curious as to what that is?

Medical Marihuana Home Occupations.

A. Intent. It is the intent of this Ordinance to give effect to the intent of the Michigan Medical Marihuana Act, PA 2008 Initiated Law, MCL 333.26421 et seq as approved by the electors and not to determine and establish an altered policy with regard to marihuana. This Ordinance is designed to recognize the fundamental intent of the Act to allow the creation and maintenance of a private and confidential patient-caregiver relationship to facilitate the statutory authorization for the limited cultivation, storage, distribution and use of marihuana for medical purposes; and to regulate this fundamental intent in a manner that does not conflict with the Act so as to address issues that would otherwise expose the Township and its residents to significant adverse conditions. In consideration of this concern, local regulations enumerated below generally provide that: the primary caregiver must reside in the dwelling where his/her medical marihuana is cultivated and/or stored; the medical marihuana primary caregiver activity only occur within a single family dwelling except as otherwise set forth herein; and, the distribution and use of medical marihuana occur on the lot/parcel/site condominium unit occupied by the qualifying patient. Nothing in this Ordinance shall be construed as allowing persons to engage in conduct that endangers others or causes a public nuisance, or to allow the use, cultivation, growth, possession or
control of marihuana not in strict accordance with the express authorizations of the Act and this Ordinance; and nothing in this Ordinance shall be construed to undermine or provide immunity from federal and state law as it may be enforced by the federal or state government relative to the cultivation, storage, distribution or use of marihuana.

B. Definitions.
i. Dispensary. Any operation where marihuana is distributed to a qualifying patient by someone other than his or her designated primary caregiver.
ii. Marihuana. The substance defined as such in Section 7106 of the Public Health Code, PA 368 of 1976.
iii. Michigan Medical Marihuana Act or “Act.” Michigan Initiated Law 1 of 2008, MCL 333.26421, et seq.
iv. Primary Caregiver. A primary caregiver as defined under MCL 333.26423(g) of the Act, and who has been issued and possesses a Registry Identification Card under the Act.
v. Qualifying Patient. A qualifying patient as defined under MCL 333.26423(h) of the Act, and who has been issued and possesses a Registry Identification Card under the Act.
vi. Registry Identification Card. The document defined as such under MCL 333.26423(i) of the Act and which is issued by the State of Michigan to identify a person as a registered qualifying patient or registered primary caregiver.
vii. Compassion Club. A facility that allows multiple qualifying patients to consume or ingest medical marihuana upon the premises. This term does not encompass the consumption or ingestion of medical marihuana by a qualifying patient at his/her residence or at a hospital or hospice at which the qualifying patient is receiving care.
viii. Enclosed Locked Facility. A closet, room, or other comparable, stationary, and fully enclosed area equipped with secured locks or other functioning security devices that permit access only by a registered primary caregiver or registered qualifying patient.  Marihuana plants grown outdoors are considered to be in an enclosed, locked facility if they are not visible to the unaided eye from an adjacent property when viewed by an individual at ground level or from a permanent structure and are grown within a stationary structure that is enclosed on all sides, except for the base, by chain-link fencing, wooden slats, or a similar material that prevents access by the general public and that is anchored, attached, or affixed to the ground; located on land that is owned, leased, or rented by either the registered qualifying patient or a person designated through the departmental registration process as the primary caregiver for the registered qualifying patient or patients for whom the marihuana plants are grown; and equipped with functioning locks or other security devices that restrict access to only the registered qualifying patient or the registered primary caregiver who owns, leases, or rents the property on which the structure is located. Enclosed, locked facility includes a motor vehicle if both of the following conditions are met:
a. The vehicle is being used temporarily to transport living marihuana plants from 1 location to another with the intent to permanently retain those plants at the second location.
b. An individual is not inside the vehicle unless he or she is either the registered qualifying patient to whom the living marihuana plants belong or the individual designated through the departmental registration process as the primary caregiver for the registered qualifying patient.

C. Effect of Permit Approval. In recognition of the unique nature of the medical marihuana home occupation provided for hereunder, the conditions and requirements set forth in Section 3.100,(1) for home occupations shall not be applicable to medical marihuana home occupations. The issuance of a Medical Marihuana Home Occupation permit hereunder shall relieve the applicant from any obligation of site plan review or a land use permit for the activity authorized thereunder.

D. Medical Marihuana Home Occupation Permit Requirement.
i. The cultivation, storage and/or distribution of marihuana by a primary caregiver conducted in accordance with the Act shall be allowed as a permitted use in the AG-1, AG-2, R-1, and R-2 Zoning Districts subject to the terms and conditions set forth in this Ordinance. Except as set forth in Subsection G below, no such cultivation, storage and/or distribution shall be lawful in this Township unless and until the location of the premises in which such primary caregiver activity is conducted has received a Medical Marihuana Home Occupation Permit from the Township Board. A proposed Medical Marihuana Home Occupation may be approved, approved with conditions, or denied by the Township Board, upon recommendation of the Planning Commission, based on the requirements established herein.
ii. Application for Permit. The requirement of this provision is to require a permit for a location and not to license persons. A confidential application for a Medical Marihuana Home Occupation Permit on a form approved by the Township Board shall be submitted to the Zoning Enforcement Officer. An application shall:
a. Not require the name, home address or date of birth of a qualifying patient.
b. Include the name of the primary caregiver (or medical marihuana home occupation permit holder, if different), and the address of the premises (lot, parcel or site condominium unit) requested to be licensed.
c. Describe the enclosed locked facility in which any and all cultivation of marihuana is proposed to occur or where marihuana will be stored, with such description including the location of the facility in the building.
d. For safety and other code inspection purposes, it shall describe and provide detailed specifications of equipment  proposed to be used to facilitate the cultivation and harvesting of marihuana plants including, but not necessarily limited to, lighting, HVAC, electrical service, and plumbing.
e. Contain such other information as the Township Board determines is needed for the administration of this Ordinance or to ascertain satisfaction of the standards for the granting of a permit hereunder.
iii. Application Fee. No application for a permit hereunder shall be approved without payment of a non-refundable application fee to help defer a portion of the cost of administering and enforcing this
Ordinance. The application fee shall be set by resolution of the Township Board and may be adjusted from time to time thereafter as the Township Board deems appropriate.
iv. Confidentiality. It is the intent of this Ordinance that the information acquired through the permitting procedure prescribed herein shall be accessible to the Zoning Enforcement Officer, Michigan Construction Code and Fire Code enforcement officials, and law enforcement officials and their support personnel in the performance of their duties and shall otherwise remain confidential and not subject to public disclosure except as otherwise required by law.

E. Medical Marihuana Home Occupation Requirements.
i. There shall be no more than one primary caregiver operating upon the lot, parcel or site condominium unit for which a permit is requested. The primary caregiver shall reside within the dwelling located upon the lot/parcel or site condominium unit for which a permit is requested.
ii. The lot, parcel or site condominium unit for which a permit is requested shall not be located:
a. Within one-thousand (1,000) feet of a public or private elementary or secondary school, public or private preschool or licensed day care facility.
b. Within three-hundred (300) feet of a public park, public beach or public recreational area.
c. Within five-hundred (500) feet of another lot, parcel or site condominium unit for which a Medical Marihuana Home Occupation Permit has been issued pursuant to this Ordinance.  Measurements for the purposes of this Ordinance shall be made from parcel/lot/site condominium unit boundary to parcel/lot/site condominium unit boundary.
iii. Subject to the exceptions set forth in Subsection G below, the medical marihuana primary caregiver activity shall occur only within a single family dwelling. The primary caregiver activity shall at all times be subordinate and incidental to the use of the dwelling as a residence.
iv. All marihuana and marihuana plants shall at all times be contained inside the main residential structure except when being delivered by the primary caregiver to a qualifying patient off-site.
v. All medical marihuana must be kept in an enclosed locked facility to which only the registered patient and/or primary caregiver have access.
vi. The primary caregiver shall not distribute or allow the use of marihuana by the qualifying patients he/she is designated to serve upon the lot/parcel/site condominium unit for which a permit is issued hereunder unless the qualifying patient resides therein.
vii. If a residential room with windows is utilized as a marihuana growing location, any lighting methods that exceed usual residential use between the hours of 10:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. shall employ shielding methods to prevent ambient light spillage that causes or creates a distraction or nuisance to any adjacent
residential properties.
viii. All necessary building, electrical, plumbing and mechanical permits shall be obtained for any portion of a premises in which electrical wiring, lighting and/or watering devices are located, installed or modified that support the cultivation or harvesting of marihuana. Prior to a permit issued hereunder taking effect and the commencement of primary caregiver activities, the premises shall be inspected for compliance with applicable provisions of the Michigan Construction Code and the Michigan Fire Code. The premises shall be inspected annually thereafter for continued compliance with all applicable Zoning Ordinance and Construction Code and Fire Code requirements.
ix. There shall be no sign identifying the premises as a site at which marihuana is cultivated, harvested or distributed.
x. The primary caregiver activities conducted on the premises for which a Medical Marihuana Home Occupation Permit is granted hereunder shall be in conformance with the application approved hereunder, the Act, and the administrative rules promulgated pursuant to the Act.
xi. Nothing in this Ordinance shall be deemed to allow dispensaries or compassion clubs, which are hereby strictly prohibited.
F. Disclaimer of Immunity. Nothing in this Ordinance shall be construed as allowing the use, cultivation, distribution or possession of marihuana not in strict compliance with the express provisions of the Act and this Ordinance. Further, nothing in this Ordinance shall be construed to undermine or provide immunity from federal or state law as it may be enforced by the federal or state government relative to the use,
cultivation, distribution or possession of marihuana or to prevent prosecution thereunder.
G. Exceptions. This Ordinance shall not be deemed to prohibit or restrict or require a permit for the following:
i. The cultivation, storage and/or use of marihuana by a qualifying patient solely for his/her personal use at his/her residence or at a hospital or hospice at which he/she is receiving care and in accordance with the provisions of the Act and the administrative rules adopted thereunder.
ii. The cultivation, storage and/or distribution of marihuana in accordance with the Act by a primary caregiver solely to provide services to not more than one qualifying patient who is a member of the primary caregiver’s household and whose residence is shared with the primary caregiver.
iii. The provision of assistance to a qualifying patient by his/her designated primary caregiver relating to medical marihuana use, including distribution or other assistance, in accordance with the Act and the administrative rules adopted thereunder, at the residence of the qualifying patient or at a hospital or hospice at which the qualifying patient is receiving care.
F. Enforcement. Any violation of this Ordinance shall subject the offender to the enforcement penalties set forth in Section 18.120. The Zoning Enforcement Officer, or other designated Township Board representative, shall have the right at any time, to enter and inspect the premises for safety and compliance purposes for cause shown.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Maverick on October 12, 2014, 11:20:06 PM
Maybe the problem is that the MEN reported it wrong when they said that the moratorium prohibited growing. The city can't do that and that part is what I was talking about.
Mav
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Frenchfry on October 13, 2014, 06:40:06 AM
Monroe continues marijuana moratorium As of Saturday, October 11, 2014, 07:11 a.m. Medical marijuana growers and dispensers will have to wait at least another year before trying to open up shop in Monroe. The Monroe City Council Monday night extended its moratorium on that activity due to the concern over the legality of growing and selling the drug. Under the moratorium, the city will not accept applications, licenses or permits for businesses for growing, selling or dispensing medical marijuana for one year. Though the state passed the Michigan Medical Marihuana Act in 2008, making such activity legal, the federal government still regulates marijuana as a schedule 1 drug, which means it’s not accepted for medical use. The council imposed the moratorium in 2011 for the same reasons. The council passed it without discussion.

Read more at: http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/oct/11/city-monroe-continues-marijuana-moratorium/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/oct/11/city-monroe-continues-marijuana-moratorium/)

Vote 'em out!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Frenchfry on October 13, 2014, 06:45:11 AM
I guess I am happy that my County can afford to employ an handicapped person on our crews out there.

Also thrilled that our County Employees have time to attend the meetings and be involved and lobby for things that the rest of us don't care about.

Isn't that how we got in this mess in the first place?
Wow. Guess you share the same sentiment as Zink.
Yes Zink needs to resign...and I'd like to see you resign as well.
You've caused great harm to this forum.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on October 13, 2014, 02:26:10 PM
Kicking the can down the road is a popular sport here in Michigan Politics...   
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 13, 2014, 03:04:33 PM
Politicians must wear steel toe shoes.....
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 13, 2014, 03:09:01 PM
Wow. Guess you share the same sentiment as Zink.
Yes Zink needs to resign...and I'd like to see you resign as well.
You've caused great harm to this forum.

He did nothing wrong except say something a bit off color to which he apologized.  Considering how much you post thats 'off color'........

You ought to be in a hole, 6 feet deep, comuning with the earth worms.

Far as MN is concerned, he has as much right here, as you do.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on October 13, 2014, 11:59:00 PM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/oct/12/pot-seller-posts-craigs-list-arrested-dundee-mi/?top-stories (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/oct/12/pot-seller-posts-craigs-list-arrested-dundee-mi/?top-stories)

Apparently this guy didn't read this thread...   
along with being dumb - he didn't even have a medical marijuana card
(which you can apparently get pretty easy)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Maverick on October 13, 2014, 11:59:47 PM
Here's your sign !!!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on October 15, 2014, 12:06:43 AM
From the "News Today" link

No stories were published for this day.

It was a news free day apparently in Monroe... 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Frenchfry on October 16, 2014, 06:34:19 AM
He did nothing wrong except say something a bit off color to which he apologized.  Considering how much you post thats 'off color'........

You ought to be in a hole, 6 feet deep, comuning with the earth worms.

Far as MN is concerned, he has as much right here, as you do.
This is the type of nonsense that's killing this forum.

You saying I ought to die because I suggested a right-wing moron ought to resign.

Seems there's no end in sight to the amount of stupidity emanating from you conservative righties.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on October 16, 2014, 01:27:42 PM
Maybe the problem is that the MEN reported it wrong when they said that the moratorium prohibited growing. The city can't do that and that part is what I was talking about.
Mav

Imagine that.

The Monroe Evening News didn't get the facts right again.

Go figure.

Nice ordinance CatLady.

Not very useful, but nice.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on October 17, 2014, 07:29:16 AM
http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26809914/spider-gets-trapped-underneath-mans-skin (http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/26809914/spider-gets-trapped-underneath-mans-skin)


How spooky is this?  Yikes!

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on October 17, 2014, 08:15:52 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/oct/17/another-bedford-field-damaged/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/oct/17/another-bedford-field-damaged/)


Sheesh! Again?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on October 17, 2014, 01:17:17 PM
Another string of vehicle breakins overnight in Waterford sub off Dean rd east of Secor.  It's been a few weeks since other areas were hit.
This has been happening in Perrysburg and Maumee.
Maybe the same guys moving around.
If you leave your vehicles out, don't leave anything in them.
One neighbor related their garage door went up.  When he got up and turned lights on he didn't see anything.  But apparently they might have been waiting to see if someone was home.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on October 17, 2014, 01:21:06 PM
Another string of vehicle breakins overnight in Waterford sub off Dean rd east of Secor.  It's been a few weeks since other areas were hit.
This has been happening in Perrysburg and Maumee.
Maybe the same guys moving around.
If you leave your vehicles out, don't leave anything in them.
One neighbor related their garage door went up.  When he got up and turned lights on he didn't see anything.  But apparently they might have been waiting to see if someone was home.

It amazes me the people that leave their garage door openers in their cars and their cars unlocked!

I did hear the sheriff's helicopter down there early this morning but it didn't sound like they caught anyone!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: tnweasel on October 17, 2014, 02:11:25 PM
not to look as though I am passing judgment....but why in the world would you leave purses, wallets, cameras, phones, laptops, money....etc...in an unlocked car? I lock my car every time I get out of it....even in my driveway... but I have minivan and I am prone to accidentally pushing one of the buttons that open the sliding doors.... after coming out of Meijer and finding my doors open...I started locking it as a habit as I get out....
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 17, 2014, 08:33:28 PM
My keys are in my car's ignition all the time... ;D  If you want the POS, take it.  Just don't let me catch you, I'll drop yout butt right there....
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Tiny on October 17, 2014, 09:53:57 PM
not to look as though I am passing judgment....but why in the world would you leave purses, wallets, cameras, phones, laptops, money....etc...in an unlocked car? I lock my car every time I get out of it....even in my driveway... but I have minivan and I am prone to accidentally pushing one of the buttons that open the sliding doors.... after coming out of Meijer and finding my doors open...I started locking it as a habit as I get out....

I wouldn't leave any of that stuff in a locked car. They have no problem busting out a window to get whatever they want.

I've gotten up a couple of mornings and found my trunk wide open. Somehow the button gets pushed while in my pocket.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 18, 2014, 11:15:37 AM
I wouldn't leave any of that stuff in a locked car. They have no problem busting out a window to get whatever they want.

I've gotten up a couple of mornings and found my trunk wide open. Somehow the button gets pushed while in my pocket.

I'm trunkless.....lol
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on October 18, 2014, 11:06:17 PM
It's about the honesty - locked or unlocked doesn't change much - glass can be broken pretty quickly and rather quiet on a vehicle.   

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on October 19, 2014, 10:26:56 AM
It's about the honesty - locked or unlocked doesn't change much - glass can be broken pretty quickly and rather quiet on a vehicle.

Sure, but the factory car alarms make a ton of noise when the door opens though, and they are not so rare anymore.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on October 19, 2014, 06:11:34 PM
Sure, but the factory car alarms make a ton of noise when the door opens though, and they are not so rare anymore.
When is the last time you saw someone dial 911 or even pay attention to one of those annoying "car alarms"...?

They are like fire alarms - the public ignores them.

Grant it you may wake up and check if it was in your drive or garage - but by then the criminals have what they want and are gone.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on October 19, 2014, 06:19:56 PM
When is the last time you saw someone dial 911 or even pay attention to one of those annoying "car alarms"...?

They are like fire alarms - the public ignores them.

Grant it you may wake up and check if it was in your drive or garage - but by then the criminals have what they want and are gone.

Most perps scramble when there is light and or noise is my experience.

The goal is not to be seen or caught.

The cops are generally not a real ambitious group, but given an adequate enough description of an individual even they are forced to do their job, and most people who break into cars know that a blaring car alarm attracts attention that they don't want.

Now I agree that if I see an alarm going off I am probably not going to pick up a phone, but if I see someone taking out a stereo in said car I would, and everyone has a camera and video recorder on them now.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Tiny on October 19, 2014, 06:38:12 PM
X1-CLASS SOLAR FLARE: This comes as no surprise. Behemoth sunspot AR2192 has unleashed an X1-class solar flare. NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory recorded the blast in this extreme UV image of the sun on Oct. 19th (0500 UT): A pulse of ultraviolet and X-radiation from the flare caused a brief but strong HF radio blackout on the dayside of Earth, mainly over Asia and Australia.


(http://spaceweather.com/images2014/19oct14/x1_strip2.jpg)

Update (8:30 AM PDT): Remarkably, this explosion did not yield a significant CME. Just-arriving coronagraph images from SOHO show no cloud emerging from the blast site.

Big sunspots tend to produce big flares, and clearly AR2192 is no exception. More X-flares are likely as AR2192 turns toward Earth in the days ahead. Also, if you have a solar telescope, point it at the sun. This active region is a real beauty.

(http://spaceweather.com/images2014/19oct14/hmi200.gif)

------------------------------------------------------------------------

EMERALD DYNAMITE: On Oct. 18th, Earth passed through multiple folds in the heliospheric current sheet--a phenomenon known as "solar sector boundary crossings." This sparked a veritable explosion of bright auroras around the Arctic Circle. Ole Salomonsen of Tromso, Norway, captured the outburst in this photo, which he calls Emerald Dynamite:

(http://spaceweather.com/images2014/19oct14/dynamite_strip.jpg)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 19, 2014, 10:02:39 PM
There goes the cell phone..... ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on October 23, 2014, 06:34:10 AM
Before rumors begin circulating, this was not me who was arrested.

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/oct/21/high-speed-chase-us-23-ends-arrest/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/oct/21/high-speed-chase-us-23-ends-arrest/)

Officer Bruckner spotted the vehicle traveling north on US-23, reaching speeds of 115 mph. Michigan State Police Trooper Brett Smith joined the pursuit near mile marker 25, where the vehicle lost control and rolled several times before coming to rest in a ditch on the east side of the highway.

The driver was the only occupant in the vehicle and was not injured. The male driver lit a suspected marijuana bong and began smoking while officers attempted to break out a window of the vehicle, police said.

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on October 23, 2014, 07:45:05 AM
I was thinking about you when I read this.   ;)   But then I realized you were out of town.  Welcome back! :)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on October 23, 2014, 07:54:01 AM
LOL.....thanks.

Being the technical and detailed person I am, I wondered when I read it if it was a bong or a one-hitter.  Not even I travel with a bong anymore.   ;D

Packing up my fishing gear and headed North here in a bit.  Steel Head trout are calling my name......well, that and a well stocked liquor cabinet full of Irish Whiskey and Scotch up at the cabin.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on October 23, 2014, 08:53:53 AM
Have fun!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Baggins on October 23, 2014, 02:56:55 PM
LOL.....thanks.

Being the technical and detailed person I am, I wondered when I read it if it was a bong or a one-hitter.  Not even I travel with a bong anymore.   ;D

Packing up my fishing gear and headed North here in a bit.  Steel Head trout are calling my name......well, that and a well stocked liquor cabinet full of Irish Whiskey and Scotch up at the cabin.


lucky dog...
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on October 23, 2014, 08:22:26 PM
LOL  it's warm and sunny here in Atlanta - well at least this afternoon it was...   now it's dark and I think I saw a lot of smoke coming from the cigar bar next door... 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Tiny on October 23, 2014, 11:27:44 PM
LOL.....thanks.

Being the technical and detailed person I am, I wondered when I read it if it was a bong or a one-hitter.  Not even I travel with a bong anymore.   ;D

Packing up my fishing gear and headed North here in a bit.  Steel Head trout are calling my name......well, that and a well stocked liquor cabinet full of Irish Whiskey and Scotch up at the cabin.

My son went up to Ludington last week and came back with 6 nice ones. He said he could have had a lot more if they wouldn't break the fishing line. He smoked some and they are fantastic.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 24, 2014, 12:07:53 AM
My son went up to Ludington last week and came back with 6 nice ones. He said he could have had a lot more if they wouldn't break the fishing line. He smoked some and they are fantastic.

Smoked a towel head???  I thought they were already smoked.... :o
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on October 27, 2014, 07:26:56 AM

lucky dog...

Hey Z......every time I am up there and see a gaggle of Turkeys I laugh to myself thinking I'm going to see you fall down out of a tree naked, painted in body camouflage, and swinging a machete.  Hope all is well Z!

My son went up to Ludington last week and came back with 6 nice ones. He said he could have had a lot more if they wouldn't break the fishing line. He smoked some and they are fantastic.

I was a little further north than that....next rivers up in fact (Betsie at Frankfort and the Platte at Sleeping Bear Dunes).  The weather was gorgeous, which sucks for steel head fishing, and there were not a lot of salmon in the rivers there spawning so the fishing was slow.  I expect there will be a late run of steel head there when the bad weather moves in this week and cools down the river a little.

But still......the scotch and irish whiskey flowed like the water over Homestead Dam. 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on October 27, 2014, 08:46:29 AM
"I was a little further north than that....next rivers up in fact (Betsie at Frankfort and the Platte at Sleeping Bear Dunes)."

Nice,,,,,I use to go up there every fall for 4 or 5 days with a bunch of guys i worked with.  We would rent 3 houses at Crystal lake.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on October 27, 2014, 05:46:23 PM
I love the blue of Crystal Lake.  We surf fished there on the south end one afternoon when the wind kind of kicked from the north.  Picked up a few smaller rainbows......that fried up rather nicely.

There is a group of about a half dozen of us left now that go up every Spring and Fall to fish for those wily steel head.  One of them has a place of Big Platte Lake that we all stay at.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on October 27, 2014, 07:09:53 PM
South side.  Isn't that where all the big homes are.  My directions are messed up.  Seems like the houses we rented were on the North side and their was a lodge/restaurant with them but it was closed in Oct.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on October 27, 2014, 07:25:16 PM
Have the police solved the murder yet?   The recent Stabbing at the craps game...  ?


Looks like they're making progress...  at least they have a 'suspect' now:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/oct/27/video-crime-stoppers-offer-reward-monroe-murder-su/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/oct/27/video-crime-stoppers-offer-reward-monroe-murder-su/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on October 30, 2014, 09:36:46 AM
Bus touring Florida... 

(http://www.trbimg.com/img-5435a33b/turbine/sfl-medical-marijuana-bus-tours-south-florida-20141008)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on October 30, 2014, 09:38:42 AM
Looks like they're making progress...  at least they have a 'suspect' now:


$2500 for a homeless man in Detroit...   Likely will only get caught when he commits a crime and they find out he's wanted here.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on October 30, 2014, 02:00:16 PM
I want to drive that bus for 2 miles, or two one hitter hits, which ever comes first.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on October 31, 2014, 09:17:50 AM
From an MDOT Tweet this morning...

US 41 west of Ishpeming in the UP :( :( :(

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1RpU6MCAAEh0iR.jpg)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on October 31, 2014, 10:25:04 AM
Fire up the snowmobiles.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on October 31, 2014, 10:28:00 AM
My intent is to fire something up too.  Where in the hell did I hide my rolling papers?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 01, 2014, 02:10:10 AM
My intent is to fire something up too.  Where in the hell did I hide my rolling papers?

You obviously don't have to submit ti mandatory workplace drug screens and that suprises me.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on November 01, 2014, 06:07:38 AM
That would be correct.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 01, 2014, 03:01:20 PM
Hmmmmm.  How are you exempt?  Thats a Federal rule/law......  Having said that, I never wind up in the 'hat' either.....
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 01, 2014, 03:05:19 PM
Silly me...  I answered my own qeustion, 'probable cause'....  Now, if you were say, in a plant and were injured in the line of duty (work) and taken to the hospital, SOP is a draw/pull, especially if it involves WC.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on November 01, 2014, 03:54:11 PM
Hmmmmm.  How are you exempt?  Thats a Federal rule/law......  Having said that, I never wind up in the 'hat' either.....

Can't be a Federal Rule or Law.  If so, it must not apply to corporate offices.  Now new employees have to pass the test, and our manufacturing hourly and salaried employees have to be randomly tested, but not me.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on November 01, 2014, 04:47:35 PM
I knew it couldn't have been a federal law since I have never taken a drug test in my career, but decided to look it up anyway.

http://www.dol.gov/elaws/asp/drugfree/drugs/screen92.asp (http://www.dol.gov/elaws/asp/drugfree/drugs/screen92.asp)

From the Department of Labor:

Quote
Drug-Free Workplace Policy Builder

Section 7: Drug Testing

The majority of employers across the United States are NOT required to drug test and many state and local governments have statutes that limit or prohibit workplace testing, unless required by state or Federal regulations for certain jobs. Also, drug testing is NOT required under the Drug-Free Workplace Act of 1988. On the other hand, most private employers have the right to test for a wide variety of substances. It is very important that before designing a drug-testing program you familiarize yourself with the various state and Federal regulations that may apply to your organization.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 01, 2014, 11:01:16 PM
You need to add the rest......


"While private employers are not required to follow SAMHSA's guidelines, doing so will help them stay on safe legal ground. Court decisions have supported following the guidelines and testing for only those drugs identified in them and for which laboratories are certified. As a result, many employers choose to follow them."

I'm suprised your employer chooses not to in as much the hourly workers are engaged in an industrial atmosphere....

Lucky guy I guess, but then I don't do drugs of any kind.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on November 02, 2014, 05:52:17 AM
Of course I could have added the rest, but since it didn't apply in my specific case, nor the real question of whether it was legal or not was a moot point and why I didn't copy it over.  "Choose" is irrelevant to it being a law or regulation.

Also, my previous posts say that our hourly and salaried employees at our manufacturing divisions do have random screenings.  My position is our of our Design and Engineering Center of which random tests do not occur.  New employees there have to submit to hit when hired nowadays, but not back in the days I was hired on.

You call it luck, I call it strategic planning.   ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 02, 2014, 10:54:03 PM
B sure you don't get axed.  A new job would probably mean a p i s s test or hair pull...
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on November 03, 2014, 06:00:41 AM
LOL yes, I am aware of that point should I need a new job someday, but your original point of me having to take random tests at this moment was incorrect and what was being debated.

At this point if I get axed, I'd most likely just retire and perhaps pick up some consulting work......of which I could bypass the test once again.

I'm not overly concerned.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 03, 2014, 07:19:17 AM
There is one time they WOULD probably test.

If you are ever involved in a work accident doing a Tox screen is pretty standard.

It wouldn't really matter if the substance had anything to do with the incident or not, it just seems to be part of the routine cover their *** in case you sue them procedure now.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 03, 2014, 08:23:37 AM
Sure am glad I retired and don't have big brother hovering over my entertainment choices  ;D

On another note:  (My tree's still have leaves on them)...   not that I bag em  ;)
City of Monroe has run out of leaf bags
As of Saturday, November 1, 2014, 07:14 a.m. The City of Monroe has exhausted its supply of leaf bags for the 2014 season. Patrick M. Lewis, Director of Engineering and Public Services, said the city had handed out about 70,000 bags since distribution and yard waste collection began just three weeks ago on Oct.13. Residents can still purchase paper bags from area vendors. Regular trash cans with stickers for collection can also be used during the remaining yard waste collection period, which will end the week of Dec. 1, on the regular pickup day.

Read more at: http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/01/city-monroe-has-run-out-leaf-bags/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/01/city-monroe-has-run-out-leaf-bags/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 03, 2014, 08:30:02 AM
Sure am glad I retired and don't have big brother hovering over my entertainment choices  ;D

On another note:  (My tree's still have leaves on them)...   not that I bag em  ;)
City of Monroe has run out of leaf bags
As of Saturday, November 1, 2014, 07:14 a.m. The City of Monroe has exhausted its supply of leaf bags for the 2014 season. Patrick M. Lewis, Director of Engineering and Public Services, said the city had handed out about 70,000 bags since distribution and yard waste collection began just three weeks ago on Oct.13. Residents can still purchase paper bags from area vendors. Regular trash cans with stickers for collection can also be used during the remaining yard waste collection period, which will end the week of Dec. 1, on the regular pickup day.

Read more at: [url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/01/city-monroe-has-run-out-leaf-bags/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/01/city-monroe-has-run-out-leaf-bags/[/url])


Seems like they run out every year...  maybe buy extra...   they'll keep ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 03, 2014, 09:22:44 AM
I find them useful for beer can storage at a bonfire...   :D

They used to make FF's perform the job of leaf bag police - "checking ID"...  and a limit of "x" amount

...people had clever ways around each - ;D

Then they eliminated them at the East side (NOW CLOSED) fire station...   but kept them at the Central and West 
Never could figure out why the tree's on the east side of town didn't have leaves  8*
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 03, 2014, 09:26:56 AM
Sure am glad I retired and don't have big brother hovering over my entertainment choices  ;D

On another note:  (My tree's still have leaves on them)...   not that I bag em  ;)
City of Monroe has run out of leaf bags
As of Saturday, November 1, 2014, 07:14 a.m. The City of Monroe has exhausted its supply of leaf bags for the 2014 season. Patrick M. Lewis, Director of Engineering and Public Services, said the city had handed out about 70,000 bags since distribution and yard waste collection began just three weeks ago on Oct.13. Residents can still purchase paper bags from area vendors. Regular trash cans with stickers for collection can also be used during the remaining yard waste collection period, which will end the week of Dec. 1, on the regular pickup day.

Read more at: [url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/01/city-monroe-has-run-out-leaf-bags/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/01/city-monroe-has-run-out-leaf-bags/[/url])


I got mine!

 ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 03, 2014, 11:50:18 AM
Something else I've never done...bagged leaves....Total waste of time.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 03, 2014, 12:04:57 PM
Something else I've never done...bagged leaves....Total waste of time.

I say burn em myself!

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 03, 2014, 12:07:33 PM
Nah, let the prevailing winds move them on down the line.............
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 03, 2014, 12:10:55 PM
That is all good and fine - until they run into YOUR fence.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 03, 2014, 02:16:30 PM
That is all good and fine - until they run into YOUR fence.

People in the city only have fences if they are insecure.

I have fences to keep the stock in.  They are electrified but not solid so the leaves blow right on through.....  with the prevailing winds...right toward your house......lol
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on November 03, 2014, 03:12:59 PM
Someone was burning wet ones in my area last night.  The smoke and smell was so bad it somehow creeped into the house.
And at the corner of Smith and Douglas I could hardly see if there were cars coming down the road when I tried to turn because of the smoke.
There are a growing number people with respiratory conditions that are affected pretty badly.  Burning in the wide open country is one thing but in densely populated areas affects a lot of people
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 03, 2014, 05:39:00 PM
Don't you have an ordinance officer? 


I see the World Trade Center is officially open for business - - 13 years later
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/conde-nast-moves-now-open-1-world-trade-center-article-1.1997198 (http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/conde-nast-moves-now-open-1-world-trade-center-article-1.1997198)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 03, 2014, 05:47:04 PM
People in the city only have fences if they are insecure.

I have fences to keep the stock in.  They are electrified but not solid so the leaves blow right on through.....  with the prevailing winds...right toward your house......lol

My fence is also to keep the stock in.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: CatLady on November 03, 2014, 08:28:46 PM
Don't you have an ordinance officer? 

First, you have to have a burning ordinance.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on November 03, 2014, 08:56:28 PM
There is a burning ordinance in Bedford.  Don't recall exactly what it is because I don't burn.
But pretty sure you can't burn after 6:00 PM and some days not at all.

And yes the last time I knew there were 3 ordinance officers. And they do absolutely nothing.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: livewire on November 03, 2014, 09:10:26 PM
And yes the last time I knew there were 3 ordinance officers. And they do absolutely nothing.

Oh, so they're Democrats, then. 


;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 03, 2014, 09:18:05 PM
My fence is also to keep the stock in.

Your stock.....  dogs = chain link leaf catcher

My stock....horses = blow through fence
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 03, 2014, 09:24:39 PM
Someone was burning wet ones in my area last night.  The smoke and smell was so bad it somehow creeped into the house.
And at the corner of Smith and Douglas I could hardly see if there were cars coming down the road when I tried to turn because of the smoke.
There are a growing number people with respiratory conditions that are affected pretty badly.  Burning in the wide open country is one thing but in densely populated areas affects a lot of people

Burning wet ones puts me in mind of the next to my rental....  burning wet, nasty diapers.  Thats a stink to be reckoned with.....  I did.  I stunk him out literally by roasting a wet moldy round bale when the wind was blowing his way....  no more burning diapers.  He came over and told me they had to leave the house.  My commnent was TS.

Driving through P'Burg in the fall is an exercise in pollution.....

Leavees make great compost btw.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Frenchfry on November 03, 2014, 11:29:51 PM
Yep...I compost leaves, weeds, garden scraps, old fruit/vegetables, and even old pumpkins (but they take a long time to break down completely)

Not a fan of burning.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 04, 2014, 06:17:47 AM
Your stock.....  dogs = chain link leaf catcher

My stock....horses = blow through fence

True....

But the brown one eats as much as a horse.

I really need to shoot a duck or goose for her to retrieve so she can accomplish her lives mission.

Its funny watching her outside when the geese fly over honking.  If only she had wings or a shot gun she would take care of them herself.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monique on November 04, 2014, 08:26:25 AM
Oh, so they're Democrats, then. 


;D ;D ;D
Was that productive in any way? Nice? Kind?

No.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: livewire on November 04, 2014, 08:36:04 AM
Was that productive in any way? Nice? Kind?

No.

Did you see the  ;D ;D ;D ?

No.

I was joking.  If you can't take a joke, put me on ignore.


Have a great day, Monique!!!  And don't forget to VOTE!!!!

Your guys are gonna need it!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monique on November 04, 2014, 08:36:53 AM
It's not a joke when you're baring your fangs.

How about you just act civilly, or is that beyond your ken?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: livewire on November 04, 2014, 08:43:25 AM
It's not a joke when you're baring your fangs.

How about you just act civilly, or is that beyond your ken?

Ok, I have no idea what "beyond your ken" means.  :o

Oh well. 
I'm sure it's just because I'm uneducated, and don't understand normal English, or some such thing. 8*

Again, HAVE A GREAT DAY, Monique!!!!!!!

I think it's going to be a good day!!!   8)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Billy on November 04, 2014, 08:52:23 AM
Prof. maybe you can answer this for me ?

Can you burn leaves in a fully contained fire pit within city limits? I've looked at the city ordinance and it seemed  as if it was closed and contained it was okay? I bagged for a few years and get around 70 bags a year. Like Flip said it's a huge waste of time so I went the mulch route and only bag what I have to. My neighbor has a full blown fire pit and burns a lot which I could care less about so last year I was burning some sticks and other debris and started packing it with leaves too.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 04, 2014, 09:12:04 AM
It's not a joke when you're baring your fangs.

How about you just act civilly, or is that beyond your ken?

Now now - it was a joke  - 
I hope we can get to the point of off humor jokes being called that and move on  ;D

This is the more "civil" MT's  ;)

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Frenchfry on November 04, 2014, 09:15:54 AM
There was once a time when interjecting politics into topics outside of that section would be frowned upon...but then hypocrisy is a common trait among the right.  ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 04, 2014, 09:19:25 AM
Prof. maybe you can answer this for me ?

Can you burn leaves in a fully contained fire pit within city limits? I've looked at the city ordinance and it seemed  as if it was closed and contained it was okay? I bagged for a few years and get around 70 bags a year. Like Flip said it's a huge waste of time so I went the mulch route and only bag what I have to. My neighbor has a full blown fire pit and burns a lot which I could care less about so last year I was burning some sticks and other debris and started packing it with leaves too.

Technically no -   No open burning is allowed, and those pits and Chimnea's are still considered open.

The one exception is an open cooking fire - but I doubt you'll sell that if you have a smudge going with one hot dog on a stick  ;D

I will say that most of the complaints we had to respond to were all from neighbors -   so If you burn a clean fire (no smudge going through the neighbors) and get along with your neighbors - you have a better "chance" of not getting called on.   


I'm curious why the City doesn't contract with someone to vacuum and mulch - but I guess homeowner labor is cheaper than contracting someone to collect at the curbside.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 04, 2014, 09:21:52 AM
There was once a time when interjecting politics into topics outside of that section would be frowned upon...but then hypocrisy is a common trait among the right.  ;D
You are correct -
And it is still frowned upon

However HUMOR is welcome I hope
Even the great comedians of our time use politics in humor
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Billy on November 04, 2014, 09:42:28 AM
Thanks Prof. I don't know. Bagging leaves flat out suck and I don't see how it is any better for the environment.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 04, 2014, 09:46:02 AM
You are correct -
And it is still frowned upon

However HUMOR is welcome I hope
Even the great comedians of our time use politics in humor

HUMOR IS ALWAYS WELCOME...

just look how well it went over at the Road Commission meeting with the commissioner 'joking around' about avoiding the hiring of the disabled...   HA, HA, HA :o :o :o
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 04, 2014, 09:48:02 AM
Thanks Prof. I don't know. Bagging leaves flat out suck and I don't see how it is any better for the environment.
Jack's Lawn service used to take them and compost them out by 75 - I'm sure they still do but I'm not in the loop. 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 04, 2014, 09:49:49 AM
Jack's Lawn service used to take them and compost them out by 75 - I'm sure they still do but I'm not in the loop.

And on a couple of different occasions they caught fire out there too...

spontaneous combustion maybe ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 04, 2014, 09:50:57 AM
HUMOR IS ALWAYS WELCOME...

just look how well it went over at the Road Commission meeting with the commissioner 'joking around' about avoiding the hiring of the disabled...   HA, HA, HA :o :o :o
We've seen that humor has changed in what is allowed... in public

You can't tell ethnic/racial jokes,
and I'm pretty sure the ones about handicapped people are off limits in today's society as well.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 04, 2014, 09:54:59 AM
And on a couple of different occasions they caught fire out there too...

spontaneous combustion maybe ??? ??? ???
likely as they do get wet - but they try to keep stirring them
but operating machinery can as well as careless smokers

catalytic converters get real hot!
so watch where you park this time of the year
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 04, 2014, 09:57:53 AM
likely as they do get wet - but they try to keep stirring them
but operating machinery can as well as careless smokers

catalytic converters get real hot!
so watch where you park this time of the year

I've see a wheat stubble field catch fire from a catalytic converter...  and a couple of times just along the road when a vehicle pulled over in the tall summer grass/weeds and left the engine running (probably to keep the AC going)!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Billy on November 04, 2014, 10:02:07 AM
I get the compost part but is burning diesel fuel while driving all over town to pick them up in paper bags really better?

Hell even if they went back to the old way you'd eliminate the thousands of bags. I rather enjoyed the days of raking them into the driveway and burning them. Although it probably doesn't bring back fond memories for the fire fighters. I'm sure you had a least one call where somebody set the garage on fire while trying to burn a pile of leaves.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: ducksoup on November 04, 2014, 10:04:01 AM
Now now - it was a joke  - 
I hope we can get to the point of off humor jokes being called that and move on  ;D

This is the more "civil" MT's  ;)

So, something said exactly the same thing, possibly with or without the smiles, last week and was intended to be an insult, but this week is funny?

Do you laugh if someone comes up to you and asks why you are so ugly?  They laugh so it must be funny?
Do you tell your wife she is fat as a pig and laugh so she knows it is all a joke?

How many years have we put up with several saying all democrats and all liberals are stupid and morons and whatever other insults they wish to make up.  But, now it changes to funny to say the same thing?  Really?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 04, 2014, 10:15:08 AM
So, something said exactly the same thing, possibly with or without the smiles, last week and was intended to be an insult, but this week is funny?

Do you laugh if someone comes up to you and asks why you are so ugly?  They laugh so it must be funny?
Do you tell your wife she is fat as a pig and laugh so she knows it is all a joke?

How many years have we put up with several saying all democrats and all liberals are stupid and morons and whatever other insults they wish to make up.  But, now it changes to funny to say the same thing?  Really?
The point was made -
and we agree there are several topics that shouldn't even be considered in humor -

but "Politics" is the lifeblood of our comedians - and should be fair game
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: ducksoup on November 04, 2014, 10:26:03 AM
The point was made -
and we agree there are several topics that shouldn't even be considered in humor -

but "Politics" is the lifeblood of our comedians - and should be fair game

Umm, okay.  I can agree that professional comedians serve a purpose and are often very funny doing it.

I am pretty sure there are no professional comedians at MT and the supposed joke really wasn't.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 04, 2014, 10:42:41 AM
Thanks Prof. I don't know. Bagging leaves flat out suck and I don't see how it is any better for the environment.

+1000
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 04, 2014, 11:16:53 AM
likely as they do get wet - but they try to keep stirring them
but operating machinery can as well as careless smokers

catalytic converters get real hot!
so watch where you park this time of the year

Only if your a/f ratio is out of wack and/or your O2 sensors are not working properly.  Actually, a substrate convertor 'lights off' at about 400 degrees and should not exceed 600 if working properly in a gasoline powered vehicle.  Diesels are different.  The new engines with DPF filters achieve 1200 degrees with regenrating but are hat shielded.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 04, 2014, 11:50:28 AM
Only if your a/f ratio is out of wack and/or your O2 sensors are not working properly.  Actually, a substrate convertor 'lights off' at about 400 degrees and should not exceed 600 if working properly in a gasoline powered vehicle.  Diesels are different.  The new engines with DPF filters achieve 1200 degrees with regenrating but are hat shielded.

They don't fall off just like the ones on gas converters?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 04, 2014, 01:24:00 PM
Pickup truck just hit a train at Fix & Mentel Rd!!!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 04, 2014, 01:41:02 PM
Pickup truck just hit a train at Fix & Mentel Rd!!!

Who won?

The train or the truck?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 04, 2014, 02:43:25 PM
They don't fall off just like the ones on gas converters?

If it's a good convertor it shouldn't 'fall off''......

DPF units are usually well above the bottom of the chassis and are not lik a cat on a car.  Much heavier construction plus they come apart bcause you have to empty them when they get full of ash (which incidentally has to go to a hazardous waste landfill).
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on November 04, 2014, 09:54:18 PM
There is one time they WOULD probably test.

If you are ever involved in a work accident doing a Tox screen is pretty standard.

It wouldn't really matter if the substance had anything to do with the incident or not, it just seems to be part of the routine cover their *** in case you sue them procedure now.

Yup......that's pretty well SOP in industrial accidents.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 04, 2014, 10:46:24 PM
So Fuzz, if you are, say on the production floor and you get hit by a hi-low, that sets you up for a drug screen right?  You fail and guess what......

Too much to gamble with IMO.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on November 05, 2014, 09:15:01 AM
At my age, no, not really.  Nothing you are going to say is going to convince me that getting stoned on occasion is going to make me stop.  Perhaps if I had to get a different job then maybe.

Other than that, I always follow the rules of the manufacturing floor in walking inside the painted area in the aisles.  A forklift driver hits me there then it would probably be him that would be tested.

You ain't gonna win this one with me Flip.   ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 05, 2014, 09:23:31 AM
At my age, no, not really.  Nothing you are going to say is going to convince me that getting stoned on occasion is going to make me stop.  Perhaps if I had to get a different job then maybe.

Other than that, I always follow the rules of the manufacturing floor in walking inside the painted area in the aisles.  A forklift driver hits me there then it would probably be him that would be tested.

You ain't gonna win this one with me Flip.   ;D

No problem, shitte happens just insure that it don't happen to you....
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 05, 2014, 11:31:30 AM
Pickup truck just hit a train at Fix & Mentel Rd!!!


Article:  http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/04/car-train-collision-reported/?police-and-fire (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/04/car-train-collision-reported/?police-and-fire)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on November 05, 2014, 08:53:44 PM
No problem, shitte happens just insure that it don't happen to you....

The old saying that discretion is the better part of valor is a common sense approach.  Is there a risk, hell yes, but there is a risk of getting run over in a parking lot too.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 06, 2014, 12:39:05 AM
The old saying that discretion is the better part of valor is a common sense approach.  Is there a risk, hell yes, but there is a risk of getting run over in a parking lot too.

Run over on the parking lot and a good mouthpiece = a bonus payday.

Positive on a drug screen = loss of income, in your case, you have to weigh if, you can afford that.

Two entirely differnt animals from my perspective but then I never worry about a drug test.  More pressing things to be concerned about.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 06, 2014, 09:19:31 AM
Gee I'm curious why you would test the injured if they didn't cause the accident?   While I understand the "for cause" testing - it should be for causing an accident instead of being in one.   

One solution is to retire - then enjoy - worry free  ;D


BERKLEY, MICH. — Voters in six Michigan communities have passed marijuana decriminalization measures, while those in five others have rejected similar proposals.

Eleven Michigan communities had marijuana proposals on the ballot Tuesday.

Unofficial results show the measures passing in Berkley, Huntington Woods, Mount Pleasant, Pleasant Ridge, Port Huron and Saginaw.

Voters (http://defeated marijuana measures in Clare, Frankfort, Harrison, Lapeer and Onaway.)

Voters in Hazel Park and Oak Park passed measures in August. Voters in Ferndale, Jackson and Lansing approved decriminalization proposals last year.

The decriminalization measures put the communities in potential conflict with state law. Michigan bans marijuana use and possession unless it's medical marijuana.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/11/04/4295100/voters-in-3-communities-pass-marijuana.html?sp=/99/102/114/#storylink=cpy (http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/11/04/4295100/voters-in-3-communities-pass-marijuana.html?sp=/99/102/114/#storylink=cpy)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 06, 2014, 09:25:56 AM
I see Oregon, Alaska, and Washington DC legalized recreational marijuana...   
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 06, 2014, 09:40:14 AM
1.  Normally in an industrial accident/incident, when injury is involved, it's SOP to test all parties directly involved, it mitigates future litigation and relieves the company of liability if the parties test positive.

2.  Just because canabis is legalized in the community/region that a company is located in, when on that company property, the employees are governed by the rules that company sets forth as a condition of employment and that suprsedes any local law ordinance.

Example.  As a commercial driver, it's stated under Federal law that there is a '0' tolerance to drugs and alcohol as a tenant to obtaining and using a commercial drivrs license as a source of employment.  For instance, if a commercial driver was involveed in a wreck in a community where canabis was declared legal, he/she would still be tested for drugs/alcohol and would fall under Federal guidelins, no matter what local law stated.  Same applies to an employers property or workplace, thats how it works.

I don't make the rules but I abide by them as a condition of being a productive citizen.  I guess if you want to live under a bridge, in a cardboard box, it don't apply.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 06, 2014, 09:54:56 AM


I don't make the rules but I abide by them as a condition of being a productive citizen.  I guess if you want to live under a bridge, in a cardboard box, it don't apply.

We all see how some people (Law enforcement) get by certain rules... 
like stealing - Luke Davis, the cops spending 14k on food and alcohol come to mind...   
I'm sure there are strict companies, or strict to those on the line, but when it comes to execs - I doubt they fall under the same "rules"

I wouldn't advise any young person to test the system however!
want to smoke now - it appears the NFL is the job of choice, at least they tell you in advance when they are going to test you...
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on November 06, 2014, 04:35:21 PM
Run over on the parking lot and a good mouthpiece = a bonus payday.

Positive on a drug screen = loss of income, in your case, you have to weigh if, you can afford that.

Two entirely differnt animals from my perspective but then I never worry about a drug test.  More pressing things to be concerned about.

Are you trying to be like Mrs. Fuzz and get in that last word?  LOL

No worries here, trust me.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 06, 2014, 04:41:43 PM
Are you trying to be like Mrs. Fuzz and get in that last word?  LOL

No worries here, trust me.

More  like CL actually.  She always gets the last word around here.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on November 06, 2014, 04:42:49 PM
I feel your pain Flip......not even I would go up against CL.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 06, 2014, 04:56:41 PM
I feel your pain Flip......not even I would go up against CL.

After 30 odd years, I've learned the hard way when to cease and desist.

Last time I got nasty with Fry, she was standing over my shoulder and let go a tirade.  I'll have to either totally ignore him or just not reply anymore.  It's not in me to say something nice to him.  Conditioned reflex I guess.....

Got a few expletives from that one.....
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: livewire on November 06, 2014, 07:12:44 PM
Gee I'm curious why you would test the injured if they didn't cause the accident?   While I understand the "for cause" testing - it should be for causing an accident instead of being in one.   

One solution is to retire - then enjoy - worry free  ;D


BERKLEY, MICH. — Voters in six Michigan communities have passed marijuana decriminalization measures, while those in five others have rejected similar proposals.

Eleven Michigan communities had marijuana proposals on the ballot Tuesday.

Unofficial results show the measures passing in Berkley, Huntington Woods, Mount Pleasant, Pleasant Ridge, Port Huron and Saginaw.

Voters ([url]http://defeated[/url] marijuana measures in Clare, Frankfort, Harrison, Lapeer and Onaway.)

Voters in Hazel Park and Oak Park passed measures in August. Voters in Ferndale, Jackson and Lansing approved decriminalization proposals last year.

The decriminalization measures put the communities in potential conflict with state law. Michigan bans marijuana use and possession unless it's medical marijuana.

Read more here: [url]http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/11/04/4295100/voters-in-3-communities-pass-marijuana.html?sp=/99/102/114/#storylink=cpy[/url] ([url]http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/11/04/4295100/voters-in-3-communities-pass-marijuana.html?sp=/99/102/114/#storylink=cpy[/url])


This is Bullshlt.  Why the hell doesn't the Federal government just decriminalize marijuana?  Maybe up to 3 ounces for personal use?

It didn't work with alcohol prohibition, and it has NEVER worked for pot.  It would free up a LOT of space in our jails, saving everyone money.

I really don't care, personally, since I don't partake.  But there are NO good reasons to keep it illegal, in my opinion.

Ok, all you libs out there can jump all over me and say why this is a bad idea.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 06, 2014, 08:09:59 PM
This is Bullshlt.  Why the hell doesn't the Federal government just decriminalize marijuana?  Maybe up to 3 ounces for personal use?

It didn't work with alcohol prohibition, and it has NEVER worked for pot.  It would free up a LOT of space in our jails, saving everyone money.

I really don't care, personally, since I don't partake.  But there are NO good reasons to keep it illegal, in my opinion.

Ok, all you libs out there can jump all over me and say why this is a bad idea.

Maybe later....  all out doi'n a doobie.... ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Maverick on November 06, 2014, 08:50:22 PM
Legalize it, tax it at a reasonable rate and, use the majority of the taxes collected for road repairs.
Simple and effective plan !!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 06, 2014, 08:56:04 PM
Legalize it, tax it at a reasonable rate and, use the majority of the taxes collected for road repairs.
Simple and effective plan !!

"Mav for Governor" ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 06, 2014, 09:03:46 PM
Legalize it, tax it at a reasonable rate and the snot out of it, use the majority of the taxes collected for road repairs.
Simple and effective plan !!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: excelsior on November 06, 2014, 09:04:16 PM
Legalize it, tax it at a reasonable rate and, use the majority of the taxes collected for road repairs.
Simple and effective plan !!


There will be no money or profit to be made after the feds take their cut.

Marijuana profits up in smoke under IRS rules

West works for an association of more than 750 cannabis-related businesses across the United States, and says that 280E results in her clients paying more than 70% of their profits in taxes to the federal government.

Sometimes, the rates are far higher than that.

"A lot of times, instead of paying a tax rate that should be 30 to 40%, they are paying rates between 80 or 90%," Cornelius, the accountant, said. "I even have a client right now that is paying more than 100% effective tax rate."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/03/irs-limits-profits-marijuana-businesses/18165033/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/03/irs-limits-profits-marijuana-businesses/18165033/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Maverick on November 06, 2014, 09:27:57 PM
If it's not taxed at a reasonable rate the black market will never go away.
One of lifes unavoidable facts.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 06, 2014, 09:29:44 PM
If it's not taxed at a reasonable rate the black market will never go away.
One of lives unavoidable facts.

It will if you keep confiscating property.

Keep the Luke Davis's of the world in business.

People will go the legal route just to avoid the headaches.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Maverick on November 06, 2014, 09:34:36 PM
Confiscating property hasn't worked yet. No reason why it ever would.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 06, 2014, 11:27:36 PM
I just wanna grow hemp...... ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Maverick on November 06, 2014, 11:35:59 PM
The prohibition on hemp growing is actually one of the negative effects of our current marijuana laws. Hemp is really a miracle plant of sorts. It is used for a variety of things which are all imported from other countries. The initial ban on marijuana swept hemp growing into it's illegal status. Politicians won't even talk about making growing hemp legal again in this country because they would have to admit that the Reefer Madness scare was all just a massive deception by our government to demonize marijuana.

Mav
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 06, 2014, 11:50:32 PM
I know that.  Beeen discussed on forage related forums I'm on and associations I belong to.  Of course 'John Q. Citizen' don't know the difference.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on November 07, 2014, 01:37:58 AM
The prohibition on hemp growing is actually one of the negative effects of our current marijuana laws. Hemp is really a miracle plant of sorts. It is used for a variety of things which are all imported from other countries. The initial ban on marijuana swept hemp growing into it's illegal status. Politicians won't even talk about making growing hemp legal again in this country because they would have to admit that the Reefer Madness scare was all just a massive deception by our government to demonize marijuana.

Mav

"Mav for Governor" ;) ;) ;)

F that.......President or Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.  I'd donate my time as an aid.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 07, 2014, 06:55:48 AM
F that.......President or Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.  I'd donate my time as an aid.
.

I'd do it for pay.

He does get a handsome budget after all.

I'd work for free until elected of course.

 ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Maverick on November 07, 2014, 09:20:32 AM
F that.......President or Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.  I'd donate my time as an aid.
Just let me be a dictator for a month or so. I'd do it for free

Mav
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 07, 2014, 11:04:18 AM
Just let me be a dictator for a month or so. I'd do it for free

Mav

We already have a Dictator.

Would you be benevolent?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 07, 2014, 12:45:58 PM
Right now, we don't have a dictator, we have a dickhead..... ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Frenchfry on November 07, 2014, 04:06:05 PM
This is Bullshlt.  Why the hell doesn't the Federal government just decriminalize marijuana?  Maybe up to 3 ounces for personal use?

It didn't work with alcohol prohibition, and it has NEVER worked for pot.  It would free up a LOT of space in our jails, saving everyone money.

I really don't care, personally, since I don't partake.  But there are NO good reasons to keep it illegal, in my opinion.

Ok, all you libs out there can jump all over me and say why this is a bad idea.
LOL...it's the conservatives that are against decriminalization. You know, those of your ilk.
It's amazing how easily you righties can embrace the populism of the left and then claim is as some sort of conservative position.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: livewire on November 07, 2014, 09:01:30 PM
LOL...it's the conservatives that are against decriminalization. You know, those of your ilk.
It's amazing how easily you righties can embrace the populism of the left and then claim is as some sort of conservative position.

So, I say legalize it, but they can't, because I say to keep it illegal. WTF?

What the he'll are YOU smoking, dude? ? ? ? ?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Maverick on November 07, 2014, 09:03:47 PM
Right now, we don't have a dictator, we have a dickhead..... ;D
Or is it Tatorhead ?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 07, 2014, 09:05:24 PM
Or is it Tatorhead ?

Mr. and Mrs Tatorhead.....
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 07, 2014, 09:28:46 PM
If only Taterhead had a brain....

If I Only Had a Brain - The Wizard of Oz (4/8) Movie CLIP (1939) HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nauLgZISozs#)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 08, 2014, 11:01:54 AM
No brain but a pen and a phone.........
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on November 08, 2014, 11:36:22 AM
Oh he has a brain.  It's just that he likes the muslim lifestyle better than ours
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 08, 2014, 04:17:57 PM
LOL...it's the conservatives that are against decriminalization. You know, those of your ilk.
It's amazing how easily you righties can embrace the populism of the left and then claim is as some sort of conservative position.
It's like I was against it before I was for it?

Not many people flip flop on this topic -
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on November 09, 2014, 08:27:34 AM
LOL...it's the conservatives that are against decriminalization.

I really wonder to what extent though, Fry????  :-\

I agree that within that group that is where the most of the opposition is, but I'm not so sure that there is a significant number of conservatives that support decriminalization either from a revenue potential perspective or just acknowledgement of a mood change in philosophy.  I think it is the leadership within that community pounding down the opposition of it too its masses.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 09, 2014, 09:57:17 AM
The Decriminalization of drugs is a very Libertarian position actually, and has been for a very long time.

I am not sure how anyone couldn't have understood that.

The whole War on Drugs has been as spectacular a failure as the whole War on Poverty.

Actually I think we you declare War on anything you are kind of up front admitting it is a losing cause.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on November 09, 2014, 10:18:36 AM
The Decriminalization of drugs is a very Libertarian position actually, and has been for a very long time.

Didn't say it wasn't!  Bet you would find some Liberals as well as Conservatives that think it should be decriminalized is what my point was.

That's one of the issues with politics.......hardliners see an issue as black or white, period.  What is failed to realize is that both labels have varying opinions and views inside their own fundamental philosophies. It is that inflexibility in leadership that gridlocks the progress to what some would call a populist view.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 10, 2014, 07:09:34 PM
Plastered right on the front page of the MN tonoght, in color, is a young shooter sighting in his slug gun at Dundee Sportsmens Club on Plank Road.  Look at the picture and tell me whats wrong, seriously wrong................

I can't believe the MN actually put that on the front page.....  STUPID on their part EVEN MORE STUPID on the part of Dumdeee Sportsmens Club.....  glad I quit.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 10, 2014, 07:50:34 PM
Didn't say it wasn't!  Bet you would find some Liberals as well as Conservatives that think it should be decriminalized is what my point was.

That's one of the issues with politics.......hardliners see an issue as black or white, period.  What is failed to realize is that both labels have varying opinions and views inside their own fundamental philosophies. It is that inflexibility in leadership that gridlocks the progress to what some would call a populist view.

I would say decriminalization is an area that you could actually get some broad based support for across multiple groups.

By the way Fuzz - I didn't say Liberals and Conservatives don't support it either.

I'm a Conservative and I do.....  so some Conservatives must right?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 10, 2014, 08:56:28 PM
Quote
Mailboxes smashed; Monroe teens face charges As of Sunday, November 9, 2014, 06:56 a.m. Three Monroe teenagers who decided to go out on a night of vandalism by smashing mailboxes with a baseball bat picked the wrong the neighborhood. Sheriff’s deputies reported the three drove to Estral Beach to randomly smash mailboxes with the bat. But one house had a surveillance camera. And when the owner heard the noise he got out and saw the car. Knowing there was only one way out of the community, he waited until they returned and got the license plate number. Deputies went to the house in Monroe and spoke to one of the boys. At first he denied involvement, reports said. But when Deputy Matthew Pitcher told him he had surveillance footage and his license plate number, the teen confessed. Two of the three boys, all aged 16 or 17, admitted their random act of mischief. Between 10 and 12 mailboxes were smashed, mainly on Lakeshore and Lakeview Sts. They now face possible criminal charges and likely must pay restitution.

Read more at: [url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/09/mailboxes-smashed-monroe-teens-face-charges/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/09/mailboxes-smashed-monroe-teens-face-charges/[/url])


Now you can't play a little Mailbox Baseball?

No one has a sense of humor anymore!

 ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 11, 2014, 12:32:49 AM
Now you can't play a little Mailbox Baseball?

No one has a sense of humor anymore!

 ;)

Thats a Fedeal offense.

Come smash mine...If you can.  It's 1/8" plate steel on a 6" steel post, cemented in the ground 6 feet deep and concrete filled.... looks nice, bullet-firecraker-baseball bat and pipe proof.

Couple years ago in the summer, I heard the sound of glass breaking in the road and a car speed away.  Knew what happened.  Kids tried to smash the box driving by and the bat or pipe recoiled into the car window....   Oh well.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 11, 2014, 07:05:29 AM
Thats a Fedeal offense.

Come smash mine...If you can.  It's 1/8" plate steel on a 6" steel post, cemented in the ground 6 feet deep and concrete filled.... looks nice, bullet-firecraker-baseball bat and pipe proof.

Couple years ago in the summer, I heard the sound of glass breaking in the road and a car speed away.  Knew what happened.  Kids tried to smash the box driving by and the bat or pipe recoiled into the car window....   Oh well.

I've heard those indestructible mailboxes can get you in trouble if someone gets hurt if they inadvertently hit it on "accident."

You might want to watch that.....
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 11, 2014, 08:41:22 AM
The road commission "tests" those all the time,
mine fail that test about every 5 years
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on November 11, 2014, 08:55:21 AM
I have a friend that lives on one of the main roads in Bedford that put up an indestructible mail box and was ordered to remove it.  He kept ignoring the order until he received something from the sheriff.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 11, 2014, 08:59:40 AM
I wouldn't worry about the Road Commission Plow or the Sheriff.

I would be more worried about personal liability.

I'd rather replace my mail box than get the snot sued out of me because someone got hurt when they hit my indestructible mailbox I put there for them.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Maverick on November 11, 2014, 09:20:48 AM
Mine is on a guardrail post straight from a federal highway project. It has the big hole drilled in it so it breaks away supposedly. My box is 1/4 inch plate also. It has survived a couple of direct hits and only needed to be straightened out a bit. I figure I can always claim that if the post is authorized for public highway use it should be good for a sturdy mailbox post.

Mav
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 11, 2014, 09:45:30 AM
With some of the solid brick structures I see around with a mailbox stuck in them I can't imagine anyone is really too concerned with this 'issue'...

at least until someone hits one!!!

(http://localtvwjw.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/mailbox1.jpeg?w=1200)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 11, 2014, 09:49:38 AM
So the law or Tort Lawyers think it's "YOUR FAULT" their client ran off the road and hit your property?

That's the kind of legal reform we need - get rid of these and carry your own coverage for those incidents
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 11, 2014, 09:51:17 AM
How on earth did a dad catch a person kidnapping his 5 year old daughter - and the person wasn't injured as he kept falling down?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 11, 2014, 12:16:54 PM
So the law or Tort Lawyers think it's "YOUR FAULT" their client ran off the road and hit your property?

That's the kind of legal reform we need - get rid of these and carry your own coverage for those incidents

Come on Prof - we live in the "No Fault" State.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 11, 2014, 12:35:29 PM
I've heard those indestructible mailboxes can get you in trouble if someone gets hurt if they inadvertently hit it on "accident."

You might want to watch that.....

I'll try not to watch it................
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 11, 2014, 12:40:42 PM
What I may do is put in a wood post (at some point) and mount a large USPS approved box with a smaller USPS approved box inside it with the void filled with machinery setting grout.  That way it can be t'eed off the post but survives unharmed.

I have no issue with the MCRC or the post office with my shop built box or post.  I have the box and post set back from the road and I cut in with the loader so the mailperson can gt to it.  Problems arise when the box juts into the right of way....
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on November 11, 2014, 06:25:56 PM
I see there was just a shooting in the Kroger parking lot at the corner of Monroe and Secor.  Must not just be trouble in our parking lot.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Skittelroo on November 11, 2014, 06:40:08 PM
I see there was just a shooting in the Kroger parking lot at the corner of Monroe and Secor.  Must not just be trouble in our parking lot.


Here ya go, Erie. 

 Seems there was a minor bump by another vehicle, both went into the Shell station lot and got out, a gun was pulled out and shot the man in neck and mouth.  He then went to Kroger for help.   hmmmmm....

http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2004/10/18/Man-shot-in-quarrel-over-truck-vandalism.html (http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2004/10/18/Man-shot-in-quarrel-over-truck-vandalism.html)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on November 11, 2014, 06:50:09 PM
I think this just happened tonight??
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Skittelroo on November 11, 2014, 07:12:06 PM
According to the article it was "2:40 am yesterday"

.... unless there was another at that corner. don't find anything else, tho
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 11, 2014, 07:19:05 PM
I think this just happened tonight??


Yes, it just happened tonight:

http://www.13abc.com/story/27358316/2-shot-at-kroger-parking-lot-on-monroe-st (http://www.13abc.com/story/27358316/2-shot-at-kroger-parking-lot-on-monroe-st)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 11, 2014, 07:31:30 PM
I knw the price of beef is up, but shooting somone over grocries....  is too much.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 11, 2014, 09:46:39 PM
Temper Temper - Temperance...

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 12, 2014, 07:10:38 AM
I have to think that was over something other than groceries.....  I would hope.

If people are shooting people over groceries than.......

 8* :P :-[
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 12, 2014, 07:15:04 AM
Temper Temper - Temperance...

I'm not sure if it was Temperance but it was in Bedford Township...   some of the people down there must have more money than common sense...   someone got a call from the IRS and was told they owed past due taxes and they had to send in NOW or go to jail.  First off, if I did owe the IRS money I'm pretty sure I'd be aware of it and the IRS doesn't put you in jail over taxes until (maybe) a lot of steps down the road.  Then to top it off the money was to be sent to them by these green dot cards or whatever they are...   they are totally un-traceable though.  When you give them the PIN # your money is gone forever!!!  There was a bit of Karma though...   after the clerk who sold the cards informed the buyer (who was back for an additional $2K the 'irs' decided was due) that it was probably a scam...   while the victim is filling out a report with a deputy sitting there the 'irs' called again...  hung up on the deputy though ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 12, 2014, 08:00:05 AM
I mentioned the 'possible' 18" of snow along Lake Superior yesterday...

well, the weather person missed their target on this one big time...

it turned into 3 feet of snow instead :o :o :o >:( >:( >:(

Having spent a lot of time in the area before I got married I have to say Negaunee and Ishpeming were two of the most 'laid back' towns in the entire UP!  I'm pretty sure they're getting along just fine this morning with all the snow ;) ;) ;)

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/12/3-feet-snow-falls-michigans-upper-peninsula/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/12/3-feet-snow-falls-michigans-upper-peninsula/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

Photo from above link:

(http://monroenews.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2014/11/11/Wintry_Weather_Gorc_t1200.jpg?57a0c2296240c280e9492005c3cad63e7cbe80f4)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 12, 2014, 08:15:18 AM
I see there was just a shooting in the Kroger parking lot at the corner of Monroe and Secor.  Must not just be trouble in our parking lot.


The victims were two young 'gentlemen' (that word is being used loosely) 18 & 20 years old.  I'd almost guess they hadn't been in the Kroger store looking for bacon and eggs for breakfast this morning. 

http://www.13abc.com/story/27358316/2-shot-at-kroger-parking-lot-on-monroe-st (http://www.13abc.com/story/27358316/2-shot-at-kroger-parking-lot-on-monroe-st)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 12, 2014, 08:39:15 AM
My son txted that it was snowing in Big Rapids yesterday as well... 
I know the UP can handle that much snow - pretty easily -   
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 12, 2014, 09:54:12 AM
I'm not sure if it was Temperance but it was in Bedford Township...   some of the people down there must have more money than common sense...   someone got a call from the IRS and was told they owed past due taxes and they had to send in NOW or go to jail.  First off, if I did owe the IRS money I'm pretty sure I'd be aware of it and the IRS doesn't put you in jail over taxes until (maybe) a lot of steps down the road.  Then to top it off the money was to be sent to them by these green dot cards or whatever they are...   they are totally un-traceable though.  When you give them the PIN # your money is gone forever!!!  There was a bit of Karma though...   after the clerk who sold the cards informed the buyer (who was back for an additional $2K the 'irs' decided was due) that it was probably a scam...   while the victim is filling out a report with a deputy sitting there the 'irs' called again...  hung up on the deputy though ;) ;) ;)


If you know of someone who falls victim to this scam they can report it here:

http://www.treasury.gov/tigta/contact_report_scam.shtml (http://www.treasury.gov/tigta/contact_report_scam.shtml)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 12, 2014, 10:47:23 AM
It's hard to believe someone would fall for this.   

I guess they are the likely ones to think that someone in a foreign land has decided to leave their inheritance to them in an e-mail...  if only they pay the processing fee
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 12, 2014, 10:50:29 AM
It's hard to believe someone would fall for this.   

I guess they are the likely ones to think that someone in a foreign land has decided to leave their inheritance to them in an e-mail...  if only they pay the processing fee

If they just want to hand their money over to someone I'll gladly drive by and pick it up...

save them the costs of the green dot cards ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 12, 2014, 01:19:15 PM
I see the Euro Space program landed a space ship on an Asteroid... 

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/13/science/space/european-space-agencys-spacecraft-lands-on-comets-surface.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/13/science/space/european-space-agencys-spacecraft-lands-on-comets-surface.html?_r=0)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 12, 2014, 06:02:16 PM
I see there was just a shooting in the Kroger parking lot at the corner of Monroe and Secor.  Must not just be trouble in our parking lot.



Quote
Police said the victims went to the Kroger parking lot, 4543 Monroe St., near Secor Road, “for a meet.” The victims met with two suspects who apparently shot them after some sort of confrontation. The suspects then fled in what was described as a dark-colored sedan.


Read more at http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2014/11/12/West-Toledo-shooting-victims-deliberately-targeted-police-say.html#TCLIcgzdOqZ1D7YA.99 (http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2014/11/12/West-Toledo-shooting-victims-deliberately-targeted-police-say.html#TCLIcgzdOqZ1D7YA.99)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 12, 2014, 09:48:08 PM
Smells like drugs to me......
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: kielbasa on November 13, 2014, 05:39:46 AM
It's in Toledo , not Bedford Township.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 13, 2014, 06:45:15 AM
It's in Toledo , not Bedford Township.

 ??? ??? ???

Not sure where you got the idea that anyone here posted (or even thought) it was in Bedford...

The mermaid originally posted about it being in Toledo...   all the news articles I've posted clearly stated it was in Toledo and now you're here stating it's not in Bedford...  unless someone posted something since I last saw the thread and then deleted that post I never saw any reference to Bedford :-\ :-\ :-\

Now if you're implying they don't have social issues or drugs in Bedford Twsp. then I have a very rude awakening for you! 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: tnweasel on November 13, 2014, 06:52:02 AM
BRD....I think there was a crossover of two different stories....one about a shooting at a Kroger in Toledo and the other about an IRS scam in Bedford......looks that way to me anyway...... as for in the news.....thank you President Obama for making it easier to illegal immigrants to stay in this county.....my family is grateful that the illegal immigrant who chose to drive drunk and kill our brother gets another chance to be in America......what a guy!!!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 13, 2014, 07:04:40 AM
BRD....I think there was a crossover of two different stories....one about a shooting at a Kroger in Toledo and the other about an IRS scam in Bedford......looks that way to me anyway...... as for in the news.....thank you President Obama for making it easier to illegal immigrants to stay in this county.....my family is grateful that the illegal immigrant who chose to drive drunk and kill our brother gets another chance to be in America......what a guy!!!

If that's the case then the article I read about the tax scam was in the MonroeNews and they very definitely said it had recently happened in Bedford Township.  The article didn't say it hadn't happened in Toledo and I have no doubt it's highly likely it has happened in lots and lots of places...  but the MonroeNews article specifically said Bedford Township :o :o :o
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: ducksoup on November 13, 2014, 09:28:49 AM
I see the Euro Space program landed a space ship on an Asteroid... 

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/13/science/space/european-space-agencys-spacecraft-lands-on-comets-surface.html?_r=0[/url] ([url]http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/13/science/space/european-space-agencys-spacecraft-lands-on-comets-surface.html?_r=0[/url])

Images...
http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/2014/11/13/philaes-landing-through-rosettas-eye/ (http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/2014/11/13/philaes-landing-through-rosettas-eye/)
http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/2014/11/13/welcome-to-a-comet/ (http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/2014/11/13/welcome-to-a-comet/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 16, 2014, 10:11:17 AM
I see the hospital name is going to be Promedica - Monroe

No doubt then that they will want the ambulance services - or at least the vehicles to be "green" soon


http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/16/new-hospital-name-be-promedica-monroe/?news (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/16/new-hospital-name-be-promedica-monroe/?news)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 16, 2014, 10:19:57 AM
I see the hospital name is going to be Promedica - Monroe

No doubt then that they will want the ambulance services - or at least the vehicles to be "green" soon


[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/16/new-hospital-name-be-promedica-monroe/?news[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/16/new-hospital-name-be-promedica-monroe/?news[/url])


So why not Promedica Mercy Memorial?

Kind of like Promedica Bixby?

Could it be that Promedica knows that Mercy Memorials reputation is not good - and they want to distance themselves from the name?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 16, 2014, 10:24:45 AM
So why not Promedica Mercy Memorial?

Kind of like Promedica Bixby?

Could it be that Promedica knows that Mercy Memorials reputation is not good - and they want to distance themselves from the name?
Actually the article said it's because there are already Mercy's in Toledo and it was going to be confusing to some...

The name originated from the times when the Nun's built the hospital - and the one in Toledo with the same names were similar

(What they didn't say is - Mercy is the name of their competition)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 16, 2014, 10:31:59 AM
Actually the article said it's because there are already Mercy's in Toledo and it was going to be confusing to some...

The name originated from the times when the Nun's built the hospital - and the one in Toledo with the same names were similar

(What they didn't say is - Mercy is the name of their competition)

I'm not buying the story.

If they used "Mercy Memorial" you wouldn't confuse it with their competitor in Toledo.

I think they new management knows what a steaming pile they bought into, and they want to distance themselves from the reputation.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 16, 2014, 10:39:51 AM
As long as they take over the billing department - I'm good with the name change  ;D

The local sign shops will be happy as they have lots of satellite offices and clinics needing changes.

I wonder what the Doctors affiliated with the Ann Arbor hospitals will do now - will they "have" to refer to Promedica for procedures?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on November 16, 2014, 10:53:32 AM
Well, if they can train the staff to perform as well as that at Promedica's Toledo Hospital everyone will be happy.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 16, 2014, 10:57:11 AM
As long as they take over the billing department - I'm good with the name change  ;D

The local sign shops will be happy as they have lots of satellite offices and clinics needing changes.

I wonder what the Doctors affiliated with the Ann Arbor hospitals will do now - will they "have" to refer to Promedica for procedures?

I've been gravitating to Ann Arbor and Detroit (U of M and Henry Ford Health Systems) for my health care needs for a long time.

This changes nothing for me personally. 

I don't think Promedica has anything on either of those two systems in terms of specialists or expertise, and I want to go where the best doctors are.

My Family Doctor has long not been all that happy that I will not go to any of his friends in town but him, and everytime he wants me to see a specialist he tries to steer me to someone local, and I just say what type of doctor do I need and why, and if I need a referral and someone calls for one please send it along he begrudgingly does so.  When he asks why I just tell him I work too far away from Monroe, and its too hard to get an appointment during work hours and not miss a bunch of time, so I prefer specialists closer to where I work.  That is all true, but in reality it is to get into the system I want.

I assume with the Promedica tie in there will be even more pressure on him to steer business into that system then ever, but I will continue to disappoint him.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 16, 2014, 11:03:04 AM
Well, if they can train the staff to perform as well as that at Promedica's Toledo Hospital everyone will be happy.

I don't doubt it will be an upgrade.

I've been impressed with the Toledo Hospital when I've had family in there.  Very professional, but I will say I always felt like they were always looking for something else wrong with you to run a test on to make a buck.  Had one person I knew in there who had a knee replacement, and they wanted to send her into a sleep center study because they thought she had sleep apnea.  Don't you think you should wait until after you are off the pain killers before you start a sleep study?  Maybe two days after your leg is sawed in half is the wrong time to do that...... 

I hope they send some management and doctors up to take over the joint as soon as they can.

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Mayonnaise on November 16, 2014, 11:27:41 AM
I mostly go to the VA hospital in Ann Arbor.
I'm usually in seeing the doctor at my appointment time. Most of the time, it's the same with special clinics or testing. Even if I feel or need to go to the emergency room. That is usually the long waits at times.
The only bad thing is the Resident Doctors. Grant it, people got to start somewhere and the doctor believes they're right no matter how much you question them.
So it's good to have their Attending Physician that you can go to to with any problems. If you don't think they're helping, you can go to the Patient Advocate.
With all the crap that's been going on withing the VA medical system, it seems [they] are eager to get the matter straightened out.
I know if something happens, I'll most likely be sent to Mercy and transferred to Ann Arbor. Not a choice but if it is, I'm going to Ann Arbor.
I was in Mercy for a week a couple years ago. Since I don't have a local doctor, they assigned me some Corporate Doctors. I don't think I saw the same doctor for the time I was there.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 16, 2014, 03:37:01 PM
Mercy my butt.  I wouldn't let Mercy Monroe dress a deer for me, let alone do any procedure to my person.

That place is the pits.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Hearshear on November 16, 2014, 09:30:32 PM
Mercy has done both a hernia surgery and a total knee for me. They did great on both occassions. Unless they give me a good reason to go elsewhere they will continue to get my business. I also like that the health care funds are staying a little more local. The grass isn't always greener IMHO.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 16, 2014, 09:43:22 PM
It's all about the Doctors/Nurses...  and you get to pick your doctors - for any elective stuff.   
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 16, 2014, 09:51:16 PM
It's all about the Doctors/Nurses...  and you get to pick your doctors - for any elective stuff.

But if you get checked in.....  you don't.

So I wish you luck then.

I had a friend - (had being the key word) who stayed at Mercy Memorial for a very long time being misdiagnosed by their crack staff with a number of ailments before finally breaking out - against the severe protests of the medical staff and family doctor - and heading straight to the ER at U of M Ann Arbor.

She had cancer.  They figured it out in an afternoon. 

Monroe Mercy Memorial had her for weeks.

That is one crack staff if you ask me.

I'm not saying that would have made the difference - but early detection matters.

So when days and minutes count - don't go to Mercy Memorial or whatever they want to call it now.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 16, 2014, 10:54:30 PM
Monroe Mercy is a merciless shitehole.  Thats coming from personal experience.  Like I said previously, I wouldn't let them dress a deer for me.

They were real anxious to cut on me years ago.  I said no and got out on my own two feet btw.

IMO, thats a band-aid hospital.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 16, 2014, 10:57:59 PM
Monroe Mercy is a merciless shitehole.  Thats coming from personal experience.  Like I said previously, I wouldn't let them dress a deer for me.

They were real anxious to cut on me years ago.  I said no and got out on my own two feet btw.

IMO, thats a band-aid hospital.

Personally I wouldn't go there unless I was going to bleed to death before I got someplace else.

On second thought if I was hurt that bad get a tourniquet on it.... and get me to a trauma center.

I'll take my chances that I'll make it.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Mayonnaise on November 16, 2014, 11:29:17 PM
I remember when the hospital on Stewart Rd. I remember going there a couple of times when I was younger. Even then, I felt that hospital was better then the one on Macomb.
A lot of family members felt the same way.

IMO, I think they should have kept the one on Stewart a hospital. A lot of land they could have expanded on.
Of course, by now it may have changed to what we have now.
Maybe??
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on November 17, 2014, 09:06:18 AM
I have had a couple minor surgeries and my daughter had an emergency appendectomy at Mercy.  No issues, service and care were good, but billing go screwed up on one of them but ended up fixed.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 17, 2014, 09:23:13 AM
I've never had a bad experience with family/friends at MMH...

I forgot about the property on Stewart -
Wonder if that will be called Promedica Nursing...  and if Promedica has experience in the nursing home/rehab business?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Flanders on November 17, 2014, 09:43:56 AM
It had been a while since I had to go or take anyone there.  I thought maybe it had changed for the better after the big remodel...  Nope.  Best thing about that hospital is the helipad.  Seriously, it's bad.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 17, 2014, 09:58:59 AM
Some of the problems came about when the management decided to clean house of anyone with years of service...   

Losing experience to save a buck can come back to haunt you
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: naomi43 on November 17, 2014, 10:44:35 AM
I had a major surgery 2 years ago a Henry Ford, well I devoped
a fever and my doc said go to emergency room, so went to Mercy
here in town they said I had an abcess and needed surgery.....
I went back to Henry Ford they just gave me antibiotic and I was on
my way.....and the general surgeon from Monroe called my doctor
and was nasty sayin how could you butcher some one etc........
I goes with out sayin' I will NEVER go to Mercy AGAIN or whatever
the F*** the new name is....LOL
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 17, 2014, 12:49:02 PM
Some of the problems came about when the management decided to clean house of anyone with years of service...   

Losing experience to save a buck can come back to haunt you

But it sure does help to get those PROFIT$$$ UP ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 17, 2014, 12:52:45 PM
Wendy's on S. Monroe street robbed last night...

sounds like just a 'strong arm' robbery as no weapons were seen or mentioned!!!  They just forced their way behind the counter and seemed to have a pretty good idea of how to open the cash drawer 8* 8* 8*

http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2014/11/17/Monroe-Twp-Wendy-s-robbed-Sunday-night.html (http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2014/11/17/Monroe-Twp-Wendy-s-robbed-Sunday-night.html)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Flanders on November 17, 2014, 01:13:51 PM
I am asking myself what I would realistically do in that situation if I happened to be waiting in line to order food last night.

Would I just stand there and watch?  Probably.  After all, from what the story says, my safety would not have been in jeopardy and they wanted the restaurant's money, not mine.

They showed no weapon, but that doesn't mean they didn't have one.

So yeah, I would probably have just watched some of Monroe's finest at work.  But so much of me wants to have been there to show the punks why you shouldn't be looking down at the register when a right hook is headed for your chin.

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 17, 2014, 01:55:12 PM
I am asking myself what I would realistically do in that situation if I happened to be waiting in line to order food last night.

Would I just stand there and watch?  Probably.  After all, from what the story says, my safety would not have been in jeopardy and they wanted the restaurant's money, not mine.

They showed no weapon, but that doesn't mean they didn't have one.

So yeah, I would probably have just watched some of Monroe's finest at work.  But so much of me wants to have been there to show the punks why you shouldn't be looking down at the register when a right hook is headed for your chin.

Great question Flanders...

I read some of the Facebook comments that were on the MonroeNews article (which strangely came out about 4 hours after the one I posted from The Blade).  One poster thought all businesses should have weapons available to protect the 'cash'!  Another who sounded like he had worked for a similar business or maybe even for Wendy's and he explained how employees are always told to just 'give them the money'...

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have 'intervened' while they were in the building but I probably would have gone out the door to at least see which way they left and perhaps have followed them :-\ :-\ :-\

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 17, 2014, 02:36:01 PM
Most if not all businesses have instructed employee's to give them the money as they usually have insurance and can replace $$  - not a human life.

The crooks are lucky that non of the patrons were "carrying"... 
as if I were in a situation - and this occurred - I would feel that my life was in danger...   Lowlifes looking to steal money have no regard for anything but their next fix in most cases...
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Flanders on November 17, 2014, 03:12:53 PM
I'm with you BRD.  That's probably how I would react as well.  If I were 100% they were unarmed, it would be different, but I'm not willing to place a bet even if I'm 99% it's just a couple of losers knowing that no one will stop them.

Prof, I'm not sure I would want anyone "carrying" to intervene.  The last thing I want is a gunfight or at least some adrenaline pumped patron opening fire in a place my family could be eating at.  I think a jury may agree as well if the guy just walked behind the counter and opened the drawer.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on November 17, 2014, 04:36:54 PM
I would have gotten my gun out if someone was being threatened. You can't just shoot someone stealing something.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: ell on November 17, 2014, 06:39:11 PM
I have had a couple minor surgeries and my daughter had an emergency appendectomy at Mercy.  No issues, service and care were good, but billing go screwed up on one of them but ended up fixed.

My grandson was born there this summer.  Right after a routine birth process, he stopped breathing.  Words can't express how fast the staff responded and saved the little guy's life.  Yes, he was transferred to a NICU, but no community hospital has that type of facility.  Advance care was ordered immediately.

I haven't had any problems with treatment.  Of course, there are always those dang billing SNAFUs.  Hell, I've heard even UofM hospital has lost a patient or two.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on November 17, 2014, 06:43:46 PM
I hear ya, Ell.  We have had billing screw ups from practically every doctor or hospital we have ever used.

As I said, my experiences with them were satisfactory and had no issues but obviously some don't feel the same.  I'm thankful we have a hospital here, period.  One of the things we always look for when placing a manufacturing facility in a location is the vicinity to the nearest hospital......significant insurance breaks for the company versus an area without one immediately available.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 19, 2014, 05:49:55 AM
Just been watching how bad the winter weather is out on the east coast...

parts of New York were absolutely overwhelmed! 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 19, 2014, 09:27:15 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/19/weather-holding-road-work-county/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/19/weather-holding-road-work-county/)

Looks like orange barrels will be a permanent fixture in some area's

I know the City bike path was in the process as well...  by veterans park

Darn Global warming strikes again   This time in Snovember
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 19, 2014, 04:57:29 PM
Just been watching how bad the winter weather is out on the east coast...

parts of New York were absolutely overwhelmed!

Global warming, just ask Gore....  what an idiot.

I'm sure the Lake Erie snowmachine is in overdrive in Buffalo....
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 19, 2014, 05:05:58 PM
Great question Flanders...

I read some of the Facebook comments that were on the MonroeNews article (which strangely came out about 4 hours after the one I posted from The Blade).  One poster thought all businesses should have weapons available to protect the 'cash'!  Another who sounded like he had worked for a similar business or maybe even for Wendy's and he explained how employees are always told to just 'give them the money'...

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have 'intervened' while they were in the building but I probably would have gone out the door to at least see which way they left and perhaps have followed them :-\ :-\ :-\
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Not me.  Gimme my 'hot and jucy' and my fries and a frosty and I'll be on my way thankyou.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on November 20, 2014, 08:57:19 AM
How does a skimming devise get inside a gas pump?  Am employee is a crook!
Security staff at Monroe Bank & Trust assisted in the probe and determined that the personal information was being stolen from the travel center at 1200 Nadeau Rd. The manager of the travel center and its corporate office both were contacted about the complaints. The sheriff’s office reported that a black credit card “skimming device” was found Friday morning inside one of the gas pumps. The device was sent to the U.S. Secret Service for analysis, deputies said.

Read more at: http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/18/police-investigating-credit-card-fraud-monroe-gas-/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/18/police-investigating-credit-card-fraud-monroe-gas-/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 20, 2014, 09:16:45 AM
How does a skimming devise get inside a gas pump?  Am employee is a crook!
Security staff at Monroe Bank & Trust assisted in the probe and determined that the personal information was being stolen from the travel center at 1200 Nadeau Rd. The manager of the travel center and its corporate office both were contacted about the complaints. The sheriff’s office reported that a black credit card “skimming device” was found Friday morning inside one of the gas pumps. The device was sent to the U.S. Secret Service for analysis, deputies said.

Read more at: [url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/18/police-investigating-credit-card-fraud-monroe-gas-/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/18/police-investigating-credit-card-fraud-monroe-gas-/[/url])


I think something got missed in the translation between the info from a bank employee and the writer of the article. 

I won't say there is no such thing as a skimmer that could be inside the machine (and yes, that would probably require an employee or someone with a key to the pump anyway) however most of them I've ever read about stick right over the top of where you put your credit-debit card on the face of the pump.  They are far from invisible and I would think many customers would have realized 'something isn't right'.  Maybe they were so distracted talking or texting (something you definitely should not be doing while filling up with gasoline especially) that they didn't pay any attention.

The one like the one in this video are what I've seen most of but I'm sure since then there are far more sophisticated ones...  and yes, if someone could get inside the machine then I guess they'd be pretty much undetectable.

Article with video:  http://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-scammers-can-steal-your-credit-card-information-at-the-gas-pump/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-scammers-can-steal-your-credit-card-information-at-the-gas-pump/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 20, 2014, 09:25:04 AM
Here's a great video that goes into detail on gas pumps with the internal skimmers...   apparently there is a universal key that fits most pumps across the country...   and you can purchase those keys online (I wonder if you have to pay Michigan sales tax on that)!!!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RFTuhY4K8k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RFTuhY4K8k#)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Mayonnaise on November 20, 2014, 10:03:07 AM
Ok. I received a notice from my bank (MCCCU) last week that my card was cancelled and I was going to be issued another one because of some suspicious withdraw from my card.
However, I did not go to the Pilot on Nadeau Rd. I used the one on N. Dixie Hwy.
All I've been hearing about is the one on Nadeau, the one on Dixie needs to be investigated as well.
One of my wife's co-workers also used the one on Dixie and she also had extra money taken from her account.
One thing about it is when using the card, the purchase is not listed, some are immediate, some take days to appear on our on-line notice. Heck! Some take a week at time's. Those are usually Insurance, Vehicle Payments, Utilities & Cable.
I would be great if the bank's would have for their on-line notices, have the date when the purchase was made and time stamp. Not just when the money was taken from the account.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 20, 2014, 12:07:59 PM
Obviously, the key is 'pay inside' not at the pump and if you must 'pay at the pumo', use a pump thats closest to the attendant or store.

What a deal.  I know the pumps at Meijers on Alexis have tamper alarms ond non-stamdard circular keys for access.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 20, 2014, 04:03:08 PM
She was raised with the best of everything.  She had just graduated from Notre Dame Academy (per the original news release) in Toledo which is an all girls high school. 

Her trip to the video store seems direct enough...  just a square mile away from home.  I've never heard the route she took to get there but no one has said that there seems to be any huge time gaps in her story before the 'abduction' occurred.  I' know her car had been moved away from the corner when it was found.  One news article interviewed a local hay baler who was working in the field so probably one of those fields about a half mile east of the corner but I didn't put it on my map because I'm not sure.

A is home
B is the video store
C is the corner where the so called abduction supposedly happened.  As you can see, a home on every corner and sure not where I would try to abduct someone (if I were into abducting the next unknown person that happened to stumble onto me):

[url]http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=41.76742,-83.55457&z=15&t=H&marker0=41.77875%2C-83.54621%2C1.9%20km%20E%20of%20Temperance%20MI&marker1=41.76461%2C-83.56863%2C1.6%20km%20S%20of%20Temperance%20MI&marker2=41.76524%2C-83.54892%2C2.3%20km%20SE%20of%20Temperance%20MI[/url] ([url]http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=41.76742,-83.55457&z=15&t=H&marker0=41.77875%2C-83.54621%2C1.9%20km%20E%20of%20Temperance%20MI&marker1=41.76461%2C-83.56863%2C1.6%20km%20S%20of%20Temperance%20MI&marker2=41.76524%2C-83.54892%2C2.3%20km%20SE%20of%20Temperance%20MI[/url])


And she got off with community service and probation...

I'd guess her dentist daddy has already written the check to re-imburse the county for the search costs!

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/20/hayley-turner-faces-sentence-faked-kidnapping/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/20/hayley-turner-faces-sentence-faked-kidnapping/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Mayonnaise on November 20, 2014, 04:59:10 PM
That was probably why I saw a Channel 2 News van parking in front of the Court House taking the wife to work this afternoon. I also saw a Channel 4 News van at the McDonald's on N. Dixie.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 20, 2014, 08:25:38 PM
Bet the parents never disciplined her either.  Shows.  Spoiled brat needs her behind warmed...

Fuzz, you available??
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 20, 2014, 08:31:31 PM
God I am glad I chose the pump without the skimmer when I went to Pilot a week or so ago.

What a pain that is.

Just another stupid thief.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on November 20, 2014, 10:09:43 PM
Bet the parents never disciplined her either.  Shows.  Spoiled brat needs her behind warmed...

Fuzz, you available??

Gotta love administering a little redass.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 21, 2014, 02:45:21 AM
Some video from the recent robbery at Monroe Twsp. Wendy's:

https://vine.co/v/OJDA3HzwiHq
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Skittelroo on November 21, 2014, 06:48:46 AM
And she got off with community service and probation...

I'd guess her dentist daddy has already written the check to re-imburse the county for the search costs!

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/20/hayley-turner-faces-sentence-faked-kidnapping/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/20/hayley-turner-faces-sentence-faked-kidnapping/[/url])


There is a video here with more info than any article I have seen.   Someone with the family shoves reporter/camera person before court, she had no apology when asked if she wanted to say anything by judge, and supposedly smirked when leaving and was asked about the missing Chelsea Bruck.   It says  she has paid $5,000 of the fine, is going to school in Toledo; and I think it said she has a job? 

Sorry to say ..... I am not at all impressed with this girl's attitude. 
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/monroe-county-woman-who-faked-her-disappearance-is-back-in-court-for-sentence/29833444 (http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/monroe-county-woman-who-faked-her-disappearance-is-back-in-court-for-sentence/29833444)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 21, 2014, 08:12:48 AM
I'm sure that's not the only thing she'll be faking in her life...   ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 21, 2014, 08:37:11 AM
There is a video here with more info than any article I have seen.   Someone with the family shoves reporter/camera person before court, she had no apology when asked if she wanted to say anything by judge, and supposedly smirked when leaving and was asked about the missing Chelsea Bruck.   It says  she has paid $5,000 of the fine, is going to school in Toledo; and I think it said she has a job? 

Sorry to say ..... I am not at all impressed with this girl's attitude. 
[url]http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/monroe-county-woman-who-faked-her-disappearance-is-back-in-court-for-sentence/29833444[/url] ([url]http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/monroe-county-woman-who-faked-her-disappearance-is-back-in-court-for-sentence/29833444[/url])


The family member pushing his way past the reporter tells a 'lot' about the overall situation :( :( :(

Interesting there was an 'apology' written to the court (probably by the attorney)...  but none given to the public :( :( :(

29 days of community service...   I wonder what kind of a cushy arrangement the attorney will make for her to complete that :( :( :(

I sure hope she has a better 'attitude' at Old Navy than she did in court :-\ :-\ :-\

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 21, 2014, 08:57:19 AM
It is interesting the wide variety of community service - that is accepted...   
we think of picking up trash along the road - but they also can work in Libraries, animal shelters, and many other places - putting in their time.   
In fact if you have a business and want "community servers" - you can request to be on the list.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 21, 2014, 09:25:59 AM
Anyone going to Ford Field for a little live Monday night football ??? ??? ???
Title: ATM customer robbed at Monroe St. bank
Post by: BigRedDog on November 21, 2014, 10:22:19 AM
Doesn't say what time it was...   just "this morning"!!!

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/21/atm-customer-robbed/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/21/atm-customer-robbed/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on November 21, 2014, 11:07:39 AM
I really hate to go to Detroit for anything or even pass thru the death trap
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 21, 2014, 11:37:37 AM
I see California is now on the list of banned States for MCCCU ATM transactions... 
Wonder when Michigan will make the list with all the thieves hacking into stuff.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on November 21, 2014, 08:38:30 PM
Yahoo news just reporting investigators may have just uncovered data from Lois Learners hard drive and probably has 30,000 or so of her emails..
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 22, 2014, 08:59:04 AM
The ice is making things crazy out there this morning!

Metro airport is closed...  there's a Delta plane that slid off the runway earlier! 

Our daughter and her husband are up there and sitting on a plane for almost 3 hours :( :( :(

Lots of crashes everywhere in the county.  At least 2 of them are vehicles into power poles and waiting for Edison to respond.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 22, 2014, 09:07:09 AM
Weather alert says we're going to have freezing rain until 11am.  No one was hurt when the plane slid off the runway.  Daughter says they haven't moved in over 2 hours and they still have to go back and re-fuel before they try again!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 22, 2014, 09:38:36 AM
The drivers in Monroe County aren't disappointing me this morning... 

they're continuing to drive too fast for road conditions and continuing to get into crashes.  The body shop business is literally 'booming' today ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 22, 2014, 09:40:52 AM
Daughter just watched a plane land...   while she's sitting 50' from the gate!!!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 22, 2014, 10:10:16 AM
The drivers in Monroe County aren't disappointing me this morning... 

they're continuing to drive too fast for road conditions and continuing to get into crashes.  The body shop business is literally 'booming' today ;D ;D ;D

They are called 'accidents', in reality they should be called 'stupidity'.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 22, 2014, 10:28:54 AM
They are called 'accidents', in reality they should be called 'stupidity'.


Accident is one of the most over used words in our vocabulary!

There are very, very few vehicle crashes that couldn't have been prevented...  most frequently just by slowing down and paying attention to what's going on around you (not talking on the phone, texting, talking to the kids in the backseat...  or worse yet yelling at them...   eating a burger and fries...   putting on makeup or shaving (yes, I keep an electric in my vehicle for quick touchups!)...  or any other number of distractions!!! 

I had a friend with one of the bumper stickers:

(http://dumais.us/newtown/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/hangupdrive2.png)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 22, 2014, 10:34:19 AM
Planes are now taking off and landing at DTW...   daughter's new scheduled departure is for 11...   the exact same time their connecting flight is also scheduled to leave >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 22, 2014, 11:18:16 AM
Accident is one of the most over used words in our vocabulary!

There are very, very few vehicle crashes that couldn't have been prevented...  most frequently just by slowing down and paying attention to what's going on around you (not talking on the phone, texting, talking to the kids in the backseat...  or worse yet yelling at them...   eating a burger and fries...   putting on makeup or shaving (yes, I keep an electric in my vehicle for quick touchups!)...  or any other number of distractions!!! 

I had a friend with one of the bumper stickers:

([url]http://dumais.us/newtown/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/hangupdrive2.png[/url])


Lets include masturbation as it applies to both sexes....  Keep your hands on the wheel not the shift lever..... ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Mayonnaise on November 22, 2014, 12:19:31 PM
Poop bus fueled by human waste
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/22/poop-bus-fueled-by-human-wasted/19395135/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/22/poop-bus-fueled-by-human-wasted/19395135/)

Quote
The BBC reports that the 40-seat bus can go 186 miles on a single tank of gas; creating that tank requires the equivalent of five people's waste for one year. (It's unclear if that's sewage waste only, or includes a person's food waste, too.)


186 miles on a single tank of gas... If this takes off and they make an RV... The wife and I are going on a serious road trip. Lot's of fast food places and greasy spoon places across the country. ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 22, 2014, 12:24:21 PM
Poop bus fueled by human waste
[url]http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/22/poop-bus-fueled-by-human-wasted/19395135/[/url] ([url]http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/22/poop-bus-fueled-by-human-wasted/19395135/[/url])

186 miles on a single tank of gas... If this takes off and they make an RV... The wife and I are going on a serious road trip. Lot's of fast food places and greasy spoon places across the country. ;)


I see a lot of future for this in Washington :o :o :o
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 23, 2014, 08:01:41 AM
Missing Ohio man found in Frenchtown:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/23/missing-ohio-man-found-monroe/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/23/missing-ohio-man-found-monroe/)

Butler county is just west of I-75, south of the Dayton area and north of Cincinnati.  He obviously had to have been driving at least a few hours.  Not many details on when he first disappeared.  He probably got on 75 and just drove until he needed fuel (or a bathroom)!!!

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 23, 2014, 10:16:39 AM

Silver Alert system isn't used often "up north"...

It's real common in Florida
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 23, 2014, 11:07:36 AM
And here's a guy 69 years old out still doing one of the more physically challenging jobs there are today.  This is exactly what I did for my first job...   busting down, demounting and then remounting truck and tractor tires.  Just good hard physical back breaking work.  The article says he was changing the tire but my guess is that means he wasn't just taking off a tire-wheel combo and replacing it...  that's still some physical work just manhandling the tire wheel combo...   several hundred pounds and then if it's an inside dual you have to handle two of them!  I'm guessing he was having to install a new tire on the existing wheel which even with modern equipment to break it down is still a lot of work.  And if he was breaking it down by hand it's a really touch job!!! 

At least there was someone there to call 911 and start providing first aid right away!  He was most likely dead when he hit the ground the way it sounds.  Sympathy to his family and to all the first responders involved...  you're always disappointed to 'lose one' like that :o :o :o








http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/23/worker-dies-while-changing-truck-tire-whiteford-tr/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/23/worker-dies-while-changing-truck-tire-whiteford-tr/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 24, 2014, 08:14:34 AM
And the big news this morning is the weather this afternoon!

We've already hit the high temp for the day and it will be a slow downward slide until the front moves through sometime around 2... 

and then...   

the 'big blow' :o :o :o

This is trash day so I'll have to round up the trash cans after they pick it up.  I was out yesterday and got up most of the leaves 'up close' to the house...   

hopefully the wind will get rid of the rest of them today ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 24, 2014, 12:16:13 PM
And the 'big blow' has commenced!!!

Watching the 13ABC noon news and Blizzard Bill just said the upper atmosphere winds in our area are already at 75 mph!!!  Some of the lower clouds are moving pretty fast too. 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 24, 2014, 12:18:11 PM
And here goes the first call for wires down...   out on N. Raisinville rd...   I'm guessing it won't be the last of the day either :( :( :(
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on November 24, 2014, 12:23:14 PM
I'm measuring ground level winds at 20.
Bill likes to hype things up.  13 should get him off the air.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 24, 2014, 01:01:42 PM
I'm measuring ground level winds at 20.
Bill likes to hype things up.  13 should get him off the air.

I have no idea what the upper level wind speed is but our ground level speeds here are a lot more than 20 mph...   one gust almost blew me over!!!

The scanner has been going non-stop the last half hour!!!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Mayonnaise on November 24, 2014, 01:51:01 PM
Tree blown over on road. On Roman Dr. off of Cole Rd. Frenchtown Twp.
(http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu235/jjmj63/Downtree_zpse8b70ea3.jpg) (http://s651.photobucket.com/user/jjmj63/media/Downtree_zpse8b70ea3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 24, 2014, 01:56:59 PM
Update from the MonroeNews:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/24/power-outages-reported-throughtout-monroe-county/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/24/power-outages-reported-throughtout-monroe-county/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 24, 2014, 02:44:39 PM
Monroe fire had to rescue someone taking trash out and a tree fell on them
Don't see a link anywhere.
Toledo station had video footage

13abc has it
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 24, 2014, 02:51:53 PM
Monroe fire had to rescue someone taking trash out and a tree fell on them
Don't see a link anywhere.
Toledo station had video footage

13abc has it

City fire is doing a call back right now!  Several rescue calls that don't sound related to the wind but people get excited!!!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on November 24, 2014, 03:39:54 PM
I had 2 sections of wood privacy fence blow over. The one post was rotted and I have a bunch of vines growing on it
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 24, 2014, 03:57:36 PM
City fire is doing a call back right now!  Several rescue calls that don't sound related to the wind but people get excited!!!
With 3 people - it doesn't take much to have a call back... 
(Gee were Frenchtown and Monroe Township were too busy to support the City?) 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 24, 2014, 04:20:17 PM
I have no idea what the upper level wind speed is but our ground level speeds here are a lot more than 20 mph...   one gust almost blew me over!!!

The scanner has been going non-stop the last half hour!!!

How about 50-60.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 24, 2014, 04:21:20 PM
Erie should be elated.  Her leaves are migrating toward the lake..... ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 24, 2014, 05:12:34 PM
With 3 people - it doesn't take much to have a call back... 
(Gee were Frenchtown and Monroe Township were too busy to support the City?)

Right now MonroeTown is helping out the city water dept...

The wind blew so hard it must have ruptured a water main on S. Dixie near Dunbar.  MonroeTown is re-routing traffic while the water department tries to get the water shut down.  Apparently the storm drains won't handle it and the road is flooded in front of Groulx auto...   if they could just figure out how to get it in to the quarry ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 24, 2014, 06:28:13 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3PJj4vCIAA-pJP.jpg)

Above from:  MonroeNews Twitter feed:

https://twitter.com/monroenews/status/536994478947856384/photo/1

Apparently that particular piece of water main is made out of concrete...

heard them talking on the scanner and it sounded like they said they may have to bring in a crew from Dayton to repair it.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 24, 2014, 06:33:15 PM
Article on the water main break:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/24/water-main-break-s-monroe-st-congests-traffic/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/24/water-main-break-s-monroe-st-congests-traffic/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on November 24, 2014, 07:21:55 PM
Erie should be elated.  Her leaves are migrating toward the lake..... ;D

It ain't working yet . . . they were too wet to move far.  Maybe I'll be surprised when I get up in the morning.

This morning, right after it was starting to get windy, I was looking at my leaves and all of the sudden, I heard a crack and I looked up and seen a dead ash take out the neighbors' back porch.  I walked over to see if any glass was broken, then walked home.  Looked up the number where they work (school) and called and left a message for them.  I went back outside to my back yard and yup, another crack and my neighbors dead ash came down in my yard :(  boo hiss
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 24, 2014, 07:27:53 PM
Monroe fire had to rescue someone taking trash out and a tree fell on them
Don't see a link anywhere.
Toledo station had video footage

13abc has it


Here's the link to the video from their 6pm newscast.  Looking at what's left of that tree it probably should have been taken down before the storm 8* 8* 8*

http://www.13abc.com/clip/10885197/fallen-tree-traps-man-for-nearly-an-hour (http://www.13abc.com/clip/10885197/fallen-tree-traps-man-for-nearly-an-hour)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 24, 2014, 07:28:59 PM
It ain't working yet . . . they were too wet to move far.  Maybe I'll be surprised when I get up in the morning.

This morning, right after it was starting to get windy, I was looking at my leaves and all of the sudden, I heard a crack and I looked up and seen a dead ash take out the neighbors' back porch.  I walked over to see if any glass was broken, then walked home.  Looked up the number where they work (school) and called and left a message for them.  I went back outside to my back yard and yup, another crack and my neighbors dead ash came down in my yard :(  boo hiss

Those trees should have been taken down several years ago!!!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: eriemermaid on November 24, 2014, 07:36:41 PM
Yes they should have been BRD.  I went to complain AGAIN today! :(
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: livewire on November 24, 2014, 07:57:37 PM
Wind is still blowing hard here.  Gusts over 50 MPH.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 24, 2014, 08:05:20 PM
Yes they should have been BRD.  I went to complain AGAIN today! :(
Send them (or their insurance company) the bill for your fence/whatever else was damaged - or just the labor for cleanup...

Then they may get the message.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 24, 2014, 09:19:24 PM
Those trees should have been taken down several years ago!!!

The wind does a good job, problem is, dwellings are in the way...
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Maverick on November 24, 2014, 09:20:19 PM
I patiently wait every year for this storm. One always comes through and neatly piles all of my leaves against the fence.
THANKS Mother Nature !!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 24, 2014, 09:27:53 PM
No retaining fences here. they migrate toward you place....  Thanks Mother Nature...
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 25, 2014, 06:45:43 AM
There's not as much wind right now ;) ;) ;)

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 25, 2014, 07:14:15 AM
Just saw on Twitter that Airport schools are closed today...  didn't say why but I'm guess due to the wind or a lack of power.  That area seemed especially hard hit by the wind last night!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 25, 2014, 07:53:40 AM
There's not as much wind right now ;) ;) ;)

The wind is picking up a little now...

and the furnace is running a little more often :( :( :(
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: livewire on November 25, 2014, 08:18:19 AM
It was a little breezy this morning, but nothing like yesterday!!
That wind helped to dry things up a bit, though.
We got about an inch of rain, and as soon as the frost left, the ground sucked up all that water.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 25, 2014, 08:57:44 AM
 :)  Leaf patrol  :)

They are either in the field or piled up ...   

Thanks Mother Nature
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 25, 2014, 09:00:24 AM
:)  Leaf patrol  :)

They are either in the field or piled up ...   

Thanks Mother Nature

We lost a lot of leaves but gained a few corn husks from the half harvested field across the road :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 25, 2014, 09:34:49 AM
Still working to finish the water main repairs at Dunbar and S. Dixie!

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/25/water-main-break-s-monroe-st-congests-traffic/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/25/water-main-break-s-monroe-st-congests-traffic/)

(http://monroenews.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2014/11/25/IMG_3725.JPG_t1200.jpeg?57a0c2296240c280e9492005c3cad63e7cbe80f4)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 25, 2014, 02:31:39 PM
Looks like it's about wrapped up.  Those are hydraulic collars on the ground by the workers used to connect the repair sections.  Any main break in this weather is miserable.
Title: The River Raisin is bleeding red!!!
Post by: BigRedDog on November 26, 2014, 01:31:17 PM
So far no one knows what is going on!!!

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/26/suspicious-red-dye-spotted-river-raisin/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/26/suspicious-red-dye-spotted-river-raisin/)
Title: Vehicle vs. pedestrian near the Gravel Pit on N. Telegraph this evening!
Post by: BigRedDog on November 26, 2014, 08:17:22 PM
We weren't home so I didn't hear any details.  This is from the MonroeNews website:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/26/car-pedestrian-accident-reported-frenchtown/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/26/car-pedestrian-accident-reported-frenchtown/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on November 26, 2014, 08:22:23 PM
Mrs Fuzz just sobered up long enough to add that that stretch of road really isn't that well lit considering the number of people who most likely cross that stretch from that convenience store down to The Pit over into the mobile home park that is there.
Title: Re: Vehicle vs. pedestrian near the Gravel Pit on N. Telegraph this evening!
Post by: Viper52 on November 26, 2014, 08:23:08 PM
We weren't home so I didn't hear any details.  This is from the MonroeNews website:

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/26/car-pedestrian-accident-reported-frenchtown/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/26/car-pedestrian-accident-reported-frenchtown/[/url])


It's no longer called the Gravel Pit.
Title: Re: Vehicle vs. pedestrian near the Gravel Pit on N. Telegraph this evening!
Post by: BigRedDog on November 26, 2014, 08:25:52 PM
It's no longer called the Gravel Pit.

I'm sure it will be referred to as 'the gravel pit' for a long time yet!

What is the new name ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Vehicle vs. pedestrian near the Gravel Pit on N. Telegraph this evening!
Post by: Viper52 on November 26, 2014, 08:29:05 PM
I'm sure it will be referred to as 'the gravel pit' for a long time yet!

What is the new name ??? ??? ???

I was really surprised to see the name change. It's now called "Newport Inn"
Title: Re: Vehicle vs. pedestrian near the Gravel Pit on N. Telegraph this evening!
Post by: BigRedDog on November 26, 2014, 08:35:25 PM
I was really surprised to see the name change. It's now called "Newport Inn"

I hadn't heard that 'news'...

I did a Google search and the only reference I see is a Google Plus page...

and on the Google map it even still says "Gravel Pit" ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vehicle vs. pedestrian near the Gravel Pit on N. Telegraph this evening!
Post by: Viper52 on November 26, 2014, 08:39:07 PM
I hadn't heard that 'news'...

I did a Google search and the only reference I see is a Google Plus page...

and on the Google map it even still says "Gravel Pit" ;D ;D ;D

I drive by there often and noticed the new sign.
Title: Re: Vehicle vs. pedestrian near the Gravel Pit on N. Telegraph this evening!
Post by: BigRedDog on November 26, 2014, 08:45:14 PM
I drive by there often and noticed the new sign.

My wife drives by 5 days a week too...

but at about 5am and she hasn't noticed the new sign ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 27, 2014, 08:06:43 AM
The victim didn't make it :( :( :(

This article says it was closer to Kenny's Market:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/26/car-pedestrian-accident-reported-frenchtown/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/26/car-pedestrian-accident-reported-frenchtown/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 27, 2014, 08:24:34 AM
I see people walking ON Telegraph from Wal Mart on my way to work all the time.

I just wonder how long until one on them gets killed.

Frenchtown really needs to take some steps to make things safer for bikes and pedestrians along the Telegraph Corridor.

The body count is getting impressive, especially up by Kennys Market.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on November 27, 2014, 09:16:59 AM
I really do think some better lighting would work.....both areas you mention there are a little dark, at least to me.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: halo_girl on November 27, 2014, 02:14:39 PM
while lighting certainly would not hurt in all honesty it wouldn't help all that much with the pedestrian vs car accidents between Kimberly Estates and Kenny's.  The easiest way to get to the store from the mobile home park is straight across the street.  If one has no vehicle or just chooses to walk, you certainly are not going to walk all the way down to Newport Rd, cross over and walk down to the store then reverse it to go home.  At the same time you can not safely cross at the "Y" intersection because that green arrow is 24/7.  I see people from here all the time walking over to the store and back and no matter what time of day it is, it just is not a safe thing to do. Telegraph is a very dangerous road to be on and now that it is apparently back to being wide open and the speed limit is 55 (though everybody goes faster anyways) - yeah try beating a car let alone 4 lanes plus turn lane - majority of the time you will be on the losing end.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on November 27, 2014, 03:34:46 PM
I really do think some better lighting would work.....both areas you mention there are a little dark, at least to me.

I agree that lighting would be the thing to do around the Kimberly Estates / Kennys Market Area since most of the issues there are from pedestrians trying to cross the road - and you just can't see them.

Along Telegraph Between Kohls / Walmart and the city they really need to extend the sidewalk or put in bike / walking paths on both sides.

You can see where people have walked ruts into the grass where they walk - but many chose to walk in the road for whatever reason.

Give them a place to walk.  When you wear in a path that is pretty good evidence there is a need.

It doesn't mean anyone will get hit (witness the fatality on the Telegraph Bridge), but it would help.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: halo_girl on November 27, 2014, 03:43:28 PM
I agree that lighting would be the thing to do around the Kimberly Estates / Kennys Market Area since most of the issues there are from pedestrians trying to cross the road - and you just can't see them.
again, lighting that area is not going to give a vehicle going 55+ enough time to stop and avoid his/her own vehicle from being rear ended to avoid a pedestrian.  There simply has to be another safe walking alternative.  There actually is some land right on the corner of Grafton/Telegraph - build a store there and I bet they would make a fortune.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on November 27, 2014, 04:07:00 PM
That may be true, but lighting would help the situation in that it would increase the odds that a driver would see the person sufficiently in advance where most would focus on the pedestrian.  I'd probably watch that person closer and be prepared to stop.

Sorry Halo, awareness from the driver's perspective would be better....may not solve the problem, but decrease the odds.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: halo_girl on November 27, 2014, 04:10:55 PM
That may be true, but lighting would help the situation in that it would increase the odds that a driver would see the person sufficiently in advance where most would focus on the pedestrian.  I'd probably watch that person closer and be prepared to stop.

Sorry Halo, awareness from the driver's perspective would be better....may not solve the problem, but decrease the odds.

No need to be sorry :-) I guess coming from my angle and living right here I see it as one person may be aware and "try" to stop but then you have north/south traffic all flying by and while a pedestrian's life may be spared, there would be rear end accidents along the way. 

I guess on this one, we will have to agree to disagree
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on November 27, 2014, 04:16:13 PM
No, I don't and can't accept it, I want to have an endless battle over this........Happy Thanksgiving!   ;D

I just know as a driver that if I am able to see someone I will focus on their actions and be in a much more state of awareness. 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: ShorTea on November 27, 2014, 04:20:28 PM
Lighting could be better, and if pedestrians could wear light colored or bright clothes, both would help.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: halo_girl on November 27, 2014, 04:27:34 PM
Wishing everybody a Happy Thanksgiving!!  I have done what I can to explain my viewpoint so will not drag it on any further :-)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 27, 2014, 04:35:39 PM
Welcome Halo Girl and Happy Thanksgiving -

Until Frenchtown or the State does a traffic study on the area - nothing will be accomplished "saftey" wise - it appears... 

So stay safe and vigilant in that area and all down the Telegraph Corridor.

Too bad they don't have a "Frenchtown Traffic Safety committee..."
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: halo_girl on November 27, 2014, 04:44:34 PM
Welcome Halo Girl and Happy Thanksgiving -

Until Frenchtown or the State does a traffic study on the area - nothing will be accomplished "saftey" wise - it appears... 

So stay safe and vigilant in that area and all down the Telegraph Corridor.

Too bad they don't have a "Frenchtown Traffic Safety committee..."

Thanks Professor :-) been here for a while actually but usually stay quiet; guess this particular one just hits a bit too close to home.  And you are exactly right on the "safety" issue - we have had at least 4 accidents in same general area in just over a year and half and nothing has been done and doubtful it ever will.  I will never ever ever attempt a "simple walk across the street" as there is nothing simple about it for sure.
Title: 13 year old arrested after breaking into Monroe liquor store
Post by: BigRedDog on November 28, 2014, 07:54:15 AM
I could drive pretty good at 13 but I never even thought about crashing into a liquor store!!!

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/28/teen-arrested-after-breaking-liquor-store/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/28/teen-arrested-after-breaking-liquor-store/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on November 28, 2014, 07:59:32 AM
If any viewers out there are fans of NetFlix's Trailer Park Boys, tell me where you don't think this incident came right off that show.   ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 28, 2014, 08:22:10 AM
If any viewers out there are fans of NetFlix's Trailer Park Boys, tell me where you don't think this incident came right off that show.   ;D

Wouldn't be the first time someone decided to act out something they saw on TV or a movie...

in fact I may have even tried a few things I saw in some videos ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 28, 2014, 08:26:06 AM
Here's a story about some Bedford students that's at the opposite end of the spectrum...

These 2 young gals are reaching far and above their physical age:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/28/accident-turns-lesson-two-jackman-rd-students/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/28/accident-turns-lesson-two-jackman-rd-students/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on November 28, 2014, 08:28:06 AM
Wouldn't be the first time someone decided to act out something they saw on TV or a movie...

in fact I may have even tried a few things I saw in some videos ;) ;) ;)

That's a good point, BRD.......once while vacationing in Jamaica I tried to talk Mrs. Fuzz into,,,,,,,,well, best stop there.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on November 28, 2014, 09:46:17 AM
Wouldn't be the first time someone decided to act out something they saw on TV or a movie...

in fact I may have even tried a few things I saw in some videos ;) ;) ;)
I spit out some coffee laughing... 

I hope everyone has experienced this...  movie challenge  ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 28, 2014, 09:48:30 AM
That's a good point, BRD.......once while vacationing in Jamaica I tried to talk Mrs. Fuzz into,,,,,,,,well, best stop there.

Are you speaking of the 'Jamaican Volcano' by any chance ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 28, 2014, 10:04:33 AM
There's a four vehicle crash on US 23 southbound around the 5 mile marker!  Minor injuries but they are shutting the freeway down.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on November 28, 2014, 10:30:31 AM
Are you speaking of the 'Jamaican Volcano' by any chance ;) ;) ;)

and the subsequent "Jamaican Earthquake".   ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Billy on November 28, 2014, 11:16:32 AM
If any viewers out there are fans of NetFlix's Trailer Park Boys, tell me where you don't think this incident came right off that show.   ;D

I freak'in love the Trailer Park Boys. Funny thing is I just mentioned the story to my wife and she said "was it the trailer park boys". I know the show isn't everyones cup of tea but I can't believe it hasn't caught on here in the U.S. I stumbled on it on you tube and drove to Windsor to buy every season this was prior to netflix of course.

Warning language but this is one of my favorite clips!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJphX1WtVSY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJphX1WtVSY)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on November 28, 2014, 11:21:47 AM
There isn't an episode or movie I haven't seen twice, and have seen 2 of their road shows in Ann Arbor and Dearborn.

I figured you were a supporter of "the cause", Billy!   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Billy on November 28, 2014, 12:04:41 PM
That's funny Fuzz.

I caught their Christmas show in Ann Arbor last year.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on November 30, 2014, 10:06:29 AM
Poop bus fueled by human waste
[url]http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/22/poop-bus-fueled-by-human-wasted/19395135/[/url] ([url]http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/22/poop-bus-fueled-by-human-wasted/19395135/[/url])

186 miles on a single tank of gas... If this takes off and they make an RV... The wife and I are going on a serious road trip. Lot's of fast food places and greasy spoon places across the country. ;)


And now they can use it for rocket fuel...

http://www.wxyz.com/news/researchers-convert-human-waste-into-rocket-fuel (http://www.wxyz.com/news/researchers-convert-human-waste-into-rocket-fuel)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on December 01, 2014, 07:40:57 AM
Quote
The City of Monroe is eyeing the former Masonic Temple downtown as a new library location.

The Monroe City Council is expected to decide whether to enter into an agreement with the building’s owners, the Beneteau family, during its meeting Monday.

If the proposal passes, the city would conduct an architectural analysis of the building at 8 N. Monroe St. along the River Raisin to determine renovation costs and build-out options, said Dan Swallow, director of economic and community development.

By the end of May, the council could choose to buy the building for $515,000.

It would pay for the purchase and renovations through the general fund and loans while seeking support from grants, private donors and public fundraising.

The new library would not replace the Dorsch Memorial or Navarre branch libraries but would expand services and increase community space, said City Manager George Brown. “The city is underserved in library facilities and this opens up a different site for the community,” Mr. Brown said, adding that people in town wouldn’t have to travel as far for services that are available in other libraries in the county.

Read more at: [url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/01/old-masonic-temple-may-become-library/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/01/old-masonic-temple-may-become-library/[/url])


Really?

Libraries are now computers.

Why do you need MORE space for computers?

The third floor of city hall is mostly vacant.  Put computers up there.

This is just STUPID.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 01, 2014, 08:57:28 AM
Another armed robbery last night...

at the Subway next to Ciolinos' on Telegraph!!!

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/01/n-telegraph-subway-robbed-sunday-night/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/01/n-telegraph-subway-robbed-sunday-night/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on December 01, 2014, 09:03:27 AM
Really?

Libraries are now computers.

Why do you need MORE space for computers?

The third floor of city hall is mostly vacant.  Put computers up there.

This is just STUPID.


I agree on the intended use, but that appears to be a very well built structure that is ideally located for some use or the other.....I've said that every time I drive past it.  If the price is right it may be a good investment for the City IMO.

Another armed robbery last night...

at the Subway next to Ciolinos' on Telegraph!!!

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/01/n-telegraph-subway-robbed-sunday-night/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/01/n-telegraph-subway-robbed-sunday-night/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter[/url])


Wonder if it was caught on tape?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 01, 2014, 09:46:43 AM
Saw this yesterday - former FF in Bedford suing the township for his constitutional rights?

I'd classify this as "what were you thinking"...   as he is a business owner in the same community!

sounds like a grudge carried over from getting fired.
BTW how does one get fired from a volunteer fire department anyhow?


http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/30/lambertville-resident-seeks-lawsuit-against-bedfor/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/30/lambertville-resident-seeks-lawsuit-against-bedfor/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 01, 2014, 09:58:21 AM
Saw this yesterday - former FF in Bedford suing the township for his constitutional rights?

I'd classify this as "what were you thinking"...   as he is a business owner in the same community!

sounds like a grudge carried over from getting fired.
BTW how does one get fired from a volunteer fire department anyhow?


[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/30/lambertville-resident-seeks-lawsuit-against-bedfor/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/30/lambertville-resident-seeks-lawsuit-against-bedfor/[/url])


There is definitely more to this whole story :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 01, 2014, 10:17:12 AM
There is definitely more to this whole story :-\ :-\ :-\
Quote
Mr. Bruning calls a contract between the township and the fire department "illusory" and states that, therefore, the township has violated his constitutional rights by not exercising "any management or control of the funding" it gives to the fire department.

Hey if this argument wins - it will send shockwaves to all levels of government in the county...   

I like how everyone has these imaginary constitutional rights
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monique on December 01, 2014, 08:20:59 PM
I agree on the intended use, but that appears to be a very well built structure that is ideally located for some use or the other.....I've said that every time I drive past it.  If the price is right it may be a good investment for the City IMO.

It's a handsome structure, but according to a former tenant, it is a heating nightmare. I think the windows have been replaced with more efficient windows, but I don't know if this was before or after that tenant was there.

Personally, I'd LOVE to see that lovely building used for the community, and a library resource--even if it's a computer lab / classroom combination--would be awesome! We have a great library system in Monroe, and I think those folks would put that building to great use! Also, such a scenic and centrally located site! It could be a jewel!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on December 01, 2014, 08:40:25 PM
I heard that same comment about the energy efficiency Moaner.

But that location, and the robust construction appearance of that building certainly could be put to good use in some form or the other.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on December 01, 2014, 10:07:07 PM
Perhaps we can make this a multi-governmental pursuit since it is going to be so lovely?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 02, 2014, 10:40:04 AM
Surprised they don't want it for a police station...
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 02, 2014, 05:00:42 PM
Sounds like it's moving along pretty good...

they've even figured out how to pay for it ;) ;) ;)

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/02/update-city-monroe-closer-deal-new-library/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/02/update-city-monroe-closer-deal-new-library/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 02, 2014, 05:05:19 PM
So, here we are a year later and we still don't know if the Road Commission's 'advisories' will have any actual 'bite' in them:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/02/sheriff-road-commission-must-reach-consensus-advis/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/02/sheriff-road-commission-must-reach-consensus-advis/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 02, 2014, 07:00:22 PM
Just saw this on Twitter:

Quote
BREAKING: Body believed to be missing man Brian Martin found in Putnam County. More to come at [url]http://toledoblade.com[/url] ([url]http://toledoblade.com[/url])


And now there's a short story on 13ABC:

http://www.13abc.com/story/27530964/police-find-human-remains-believed-to-be-missing-man-brian-martin (http://www.13abc.com/story/27530964/police-find-human-remains-believed-to-be-missing-man-brian-martin)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 04, 2014, 09:13:03 AM
There's a structure fire (sounds like the house but the aerial shows some barns there too) burning up on Plank Rd. just north of Ostrander.  Several fire departments on scene and more are on standby!!!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 04, 2014, 11:00:00 AM
There's a structure fire (sounds like the house but the aerial shows some barns there too) burning up on Plank Rd. just north of Ostrander.  Several fire departments on scene and more are on standby!!!


The MonroeNews has this posted on their website now:

(http://monroenews.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2014/12/04/IMG_0010_t1200.JPG?57a0c2296240c280e9492005c3cad63e7cbe80f4)

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/04/crews-respond-structure-fire/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/04/crews-respond-structure-fire/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on December 05, 2014, 06:19:54 PM
Guess Subway wasn't equipped with a security camera near the cash register......I thought that was standard equipment in fast food joints.

Composite drawing released of Subway robbery suspect

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/05/composite-drawing-released-subway-robbery-suspect/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/05/composite-drawing-released-subway-robbery-suspect/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 11, 2014, 11:10:21 AM
Heard on the radio this morning that the Ohio legislature is finalizing legislation that should put an end to their red light cameras.  Now, a police officer will have to be stationed at the camera before it can issue tickets.  That should at least slow down that 'cash cow'!  Anyone heard if Michigan's wonderful legislature is still working on approving them?  Talk about 5 years late >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on December 11, 2014, 12:28:13 PM
The Blade says Ohio House oks traffic-camera bill. Kasich not likely to veto so cameras come down...maybe!
Local litigation could delay it
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 11, 2014, 12:33:19 PM
They were still "flashing" away... last week,  not for me but I see the brazen drivers have figured out that they are no longer being upheld... 

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on December 11, 2014, 01:50:23 PM
I must admit it was nice to go to Toledo without having 4 cars run every light.

I hope it doesn't go back to that.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: livewire on December 12, 2014, 08:57:45 AM
The MonroeNews has this posted on their website now:

([url]http://monroenews.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2014/12/04/IMG_0010_t1200.JPG?57a0c2296240c280e9492005c3cad63e7cbe80f4[/url])

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/04/crews-respond-structure-fire/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/04/crews-respond-structure-fire/[/url])


This looked like a devastating fire...  I'm surprised the fire department actually saved the building.  Out here with no city water (no hydrants) most house fires destroy the structure.  Kudos to the fire department!

The home owners must have good insurance, too.  The roof was tarped within a day or two, and cleanup and possibly restoration work has been going on at a steady pace, by the looks of it from the road.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 12, 2014, 11:37:26 AM
Not in the news... but it appears a lot of "action" has been occurring around Dunbar and Herr    I can see tire marks from a crash - and the unmistakable remains of a vehicle fire from the scorched asphalt, and another where someone went off road and took down a large pine  -
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 12, 2014, 11:44:29 AM
I did see something on the MonroeNews website about the person on Union street yesterday afternoon that decided to cut down a tree or two...   seems at least one of the trees fell on the power lines and caught fire...  several homes without power for a few hours.

I wonder if DTE will send them a bill for the 'restoration' efforts :o :o :o
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 12, 2014, 02:27:23 PM
What is the going rate for stupidity?

When I was in High school I worked for a local commercial Tree service,
people used to complain about the higher costs - until he explained
that he had insurance - while many others just bid and hoped they didn't need it. 

The person probably watched a youtube video and thought it look pretty easy to get one to fall where you want
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on December 12, 2014, 03:23:35 PM
You mean the tree doesn't fall the way you were wishing it to fall?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 13, 2014, 08:38:49 AM
You mean the tree doesn't fall the way you were wishing it to fall?

Sounds like it might have made a great video to submit to the tv show ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 13, 2014, 09:30:55 AM
I stand to fathom which existing restaurants would go under of any or all of these catch on.

There are a few existing dining establishments that I can only wonder how they remain open.

Bon Apetit, indeed.

At the rate they're actually opening it may take a long time for even the worst competition to go out of business ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: livewire on December 13, 2014, 09:39:21 AM
You mean the tree doesn't fall the way you were wishing it to fall?

I've cut down a LOT of trees, but I'll never be as good as this guy!!!




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJXPXTaVlMY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJXPXTaVlMY)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 13, 2014, 09:51:11 AM
I've cut down a LOT of trees, but I'll never be as good as this guy!!!




[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJXPXTaVlMY[/url] ([url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJXPXTaVlMY[/url])


That is good...   

but he's out in the land of the real timber too!!!

I watched a crew take down several palm trees in Florida like this a couple of winters ago...

I've never seen it done up here so wonder if there is some particular reason?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLkgWFh9lDs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLkgWFh9lDs#)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: livewire on December 13, 2014, 10:05:21 AM
That is good...   

but he's out in the land of the real timber too!!!

I watched a crew take down several palm trees in Florida like this a couple of winters ago...

I've never seen it done up here so wonder if there is some particular reason?

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLkgWFh9lDs]www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLkgWFh9lDs[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLkgWFh9lDs#[/url])



That looks like an awful lot of work to do the same thing!  lol
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on December 14, 2014, 08:37:14 AM
It wasn't me, I'm out of town.

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/14/monroe-man-arrested-police-impersonation/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/14/monroe-man-arrested-police-impersonation/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 14, 2014, 09:36:03 AM
It wasn't me, I'm out of town.

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/14/monroe-man-arrested-police-impersonation/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/14/monroe-man-arrested-police-impersonation/[/url])


LOL...

I knew it wasn't you when I saw the article...

not your 'MO" ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on December 14, 2014, 09:37:40 AM
Yea, I would have tried waving $20 bills before getting the pry bar out.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Mayonnaise on December 14, 2014, 11:33:42 AM
It wasn't me, I'm out of town.

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/14/monroe-man-arrested-police-impersonation/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/14/monroe-man-arrested-police-impersonation/[/url])

I think this is a load of BULL!!
If someone impersonates a cop, fireman or any public official or certain profession, they get arrested and go to jail, maybe serve some time.

Someone says they're a Military Veteran and "maybe" said received certain awards and NEVER put on a uniform or from any branch of service  Don't get crap happen to them... Why? Because it has been brought up and dismissed in courts throughout the country as a "Violation of the Freedom of Speech".
This is one of the laws that needs to be changed.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 15, 2014, 07:06:10 PM
Quote
I think this is a load of BULL!!
If someone impersonates a cop, fireman or any public official or certain profession, they get arrested and go to jail, maybe serve some time.

Someone says they're a Military Veteran and "maybe" said received certain awards and NEVER put on a uniform or from any branch of service  Don't get crap happen to them... Why? Because it has been brought up and dismissed in courts throughout the country as a "Violation of the Freedom of Speech".
This is one of the laws that needs to be changed.

When I went into the SOS to get the Veteran's endorsement on my Driver's license I had to take my DD214 and they double checked to make sure there was a raised 'seal' on it.  There was no additional charge for getting the endorsement though!

However, when I went in to get a Veteran's license plate for the car they didn't ask me to verify I was a veteran in any way, shape or form although they did charge me extra for the plate and then even more extra because it was a vanity plate to boot.

But, I didn't feel too bad because I'm sure all of that either went to some state fund for Veterans or to help rebuild our roads somehow...

ok...   so I really do know better and I did feel bad but it was something I wanted anyway ;) ;) ;)

The difference I see is that if you're paying extra they don't care who you are but if they're giving it to you free then they want you to 'prove' you are what you say you are!!! 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 17, 2014, 05:49:10 AM
I'm not sure that I'd say spending the $50K restoring the car was a total waste...

and I like the concept of hiring strippers as mortgage processors...

but trying to break out of the Monroe County Jail was obviously a bad idea :o :o :o

I wonder what happened to the car ??? ??? ???

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/wayne-county/2014/12/16/fraud-kingpin-charged-escape-attempt/20517381/ (http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/wayne-county/2014/12/16/fraud-kingpin-charged-escape-attempt/20517381/)

(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/bcf9b69d88cf3381934420f4fbaf2f0378bd0129/c=0-64-2000-1568&r=x513&c=680x510/local/-/media/2014/12/16/DetroitNews/DetroitNews/635543682989026048-duke-general-lee.jpg)

(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/92560b12342849be74c9d15465627ec813fdebfe/c=0-40-2000-1544&r=x513&c=680x510/local/-/media/2014/12/16/DetroitNews/DetroitNews/635543682988926046-dukeandgirl.jpg)

(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/92560b12342849be74c9d15465627ec813fdebfe/c=0-40-2000-1544&r=x513&c=680x510/local/-/media/2014/12/16/DetroitNews/DetroitNews/635543682988676041-ronnie-duke-subis.jpg)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 17, 2014, 06:18:56 AM
Some more background on Duke before he visited Monroe:

http://article.wn.com/view/2014/12/17/Ronnie_Duke_fraud_kingpin_attempts_jail_escape/ (http://article.wn.com/view/2014/12/17/Ronnie_Duke_fraud_kingpin_attempts_jail_escape/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on December 17, 2014, 09:35:18 AM
The obozo's feeling disrespected..  Gee I wonder why..

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-reflect-personal-incidents-racial-discrimination/story?id=27636612 (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-reflect-personal-incidents-racial-discrimination/story?id=27636612)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 18, 2014, 02:03:50 PM
Saw this yesterday - former FF in Bedford suing the township for his constitutional rights?

I'd classify this as "what were you thinking"...   as he is a business owner in the same community!

sounds like a grudge carried over from getting fired.
BTW how does one get fired from a volunteer fire department anyhow?


[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/30/lambertville-resident-seeks-lawsuit-against-bedfor/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/30/lambertville-resident-seeks-lawsuit-against-bedfor/[/url])


I saw in a national publication - where Bedford is redoing their pay for FF's, and must be going to schedule staffing to have them in Station... 

Dec. 15--TEMPERANCE -- Bedford Township firefighters are in line for a pay raise, and officials say the community can expect improved public safety with the implementation of a plan that will staff fire stations during the day, all at no additional cost to the taxpayers.

The plan is the work of fire Chief Rudy Ruiz, who unveiled it to the public and township board at a special meeting last week. It was praised by board members, who are expected to approve it Tuesday so it can take effect in January. The township's volunteer firefighters currently are paid $16.50 per call. Under the plan, they would be paid $25 for the first hour spent on a call and $10 for each additional hour.

Officers, who are salaried now, would be paid in the same way, according to an incremental scale based on rank. Lieutenants would receive $27.50 for the first hour of a call and $10 per hour thereafter; for captains the new pay rate is $30.25 and $15, and for deputy chiefs it's $33 and $18.

Chief Ruiz said his plan in part was the result of instructions he received from the board in June to give the volunteer firefighters a raise. He said he also wanted to improve service and believed another part of his plan that deals with staffing would do this.

The chief proposes to put three firefighters and an officer in the township's three stations from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. Monday through Friday for a maximum of 24 hours per person per week.

Only one station would be staffed at a time, with personnel rotating among the Temperance and Lambertville stations. When on shift duty, firefighters would be paid $12 per hour, lieutenants $15, and captains $18. As soon as they were dispatched, they would receive the per-call pay.

The chief selected these hours because work schedules make them the most difficult to cover. This staffing arrangement would shorten response times, which are five minutes for a fire call and seven to nine minutes for EMS, because the responders would not have to stop at the station before being dispatched.

Chief Ruiz said the plan was worked up in consultation with members of the fire department, who are on board with the changes. It is financially possible because of the board's decision this month not to pay the Temperance and Lambertville firefighter associations for maintenance work at the stations. Instead, the $118,000 paid to the associations from a $9.75 special assessment will go directly into the fire department budget and pay for the shift work.

"It's a great plan. I like that we are helping the firefighters," Clerk Trudy Hershberger told the chief.

Trustee Larry O'Dell noted 90 percent of the department's calls were medical. "If you can improve that response time, then it's well worth all the effort," he said.

http://www.firehouse.com/news/11791854/some-ohio-firefighters-to-get-big-pay-increase-for-fire-responses (http://www.firehouse.com/news/11791854/some-ohio-firefighters-to-get-big-pay-increase-for-fire-responses)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 18, 2014, 02:07:03 PM
... and yet the School board trustee/former firefighter/community business owner with the lawsuit isn't happy

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/12/brunings-lawsuit-against-bedford-remains/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/12/brunings-lawsuit-against-bedford-remains/)

He got the township firefighters more direct money - instead of to their "association"...     
At that rate of pay - I'm sure you'll see some people using that as their full time job
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on December 18, 2014, 03:59:27 PM
I doubt the lawsuit had anything to do with the changes outlined in the Bedford Now.  They were brought about by the new chief that was hired months before the lawsuit.
Yeah it seems strange a business owner would want to alienate a portion of the citizens.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 19, 2014, 08:07:44 AM
Flat Rock did the "schedule" your volunteer (paid-on-call) years ago... 
it makes more sense for the EMS side of calls - as when the Fire call goes out you need all hands available to respond.

This is the first step towards hiring full time -
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: nails on December 19, 2014, 06:58:14 PM
Boy . . . Somebody at the MEN must have a real hard on for former teacher Al Barron.

What is the purpose of bringing up the story in the paper today about Mr. Barron's disciplinary action from the past?
If the purpose is to make a case for racism jokes, or racism in general, it sure seems like there are enough
current examples going on right now in the news to find something as relevant, or even more racial in tone.
This is a lot of "out of context" second hand storytelling.

To dig for old info on someone who has retired seems like a vendetta.
It's not like it was a spectacular event that defined the subject.


Barron document shows racism in class

■ BY ALEX ALUSHEFF
alex@monroenews.com

A Monroe Public Schools disciplinary document claims former teacher Alan Barron regularly made racist jokes in his classroom before being placed on administrative leave in May after an assistant principal observed a lesson on stereotypes.
According to the document obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request, students shared with administrators during the investigation that Mr. Barron had made statements such as “Mexicans are bullies and run fast because they like to steal” and “ black people are dumb … and only eat chicken, grape Kool-Aid and watermelon.” The document said it was issued as a “written reprimand.”
“ You can get an eighth- grader to say anything if you phrase the question a certain way,” Mr. Barron said in a recent interview with The Monroe News. “A professional conversation should have taken place between ( the administration) and I.”
Mr. Barron said it wasn’t him making the jokes, but the students.
In the introduction to his lesson, which he said Assistant Principal Melissa Provo missed, he asked the students what stereotypes they knew and they provided examples like the watermelon one. Mrs. Provo, who resigned her post Aug. 26 and took an assistant principalship at Northville Public Schools, declined to comment for this story. “ I did not make jokes to my students,” Mr. Barron said. “I’m 60 years old. Have I ever made a joke like that in my life? Who hasn’t? But I never told any to my students.”



Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 21, 2014, 07:10:11 AM
Flat Rock did the "schedule" your volunteer (paid-on-call) years ago... 
it makes more sense for the EMS side of calls - as when the Fire call goes out you need all hands available to respond.

This is the first step towards hiring full time -

I'm not sure how Bedford has managed to keep away from a 'full time' department as long as they have.  They run a lot of calls every day!!!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 21, 2014, 07:13:47 AM
My wife was just walking out the door to go to work so I listened to this incident while I had another cup of coffee...   actually a couple more!

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/20/update-monoe-man-dies-fire/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/20/update-monoe-man-dies-fire/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 21, 2014, 09:19:05 AM
Stealing someones music at a gym...  sad
Sounds like they likely must know who they are if they know they are from Flint?

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/20/computer-tablet-taken-monroe-community-center/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/20/computer-tablet-taken-monroe-community-center/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on December 21, 2014, 05:59:06 PM
Mayo - how did your Santa gig go?

 ;D

Detroit police say that a man in a Santa suit is behind bars after shooting two men during a confrontation at a downtown gas station.

Officer Adam Madera says the men got in an argument about 2 a.m. Sunday over "Santa's girlfriend, Mrs. Claus." (http://Detroit police say that a man in a Santa suit is behind bars after shooting two men during a confrontation at a downtown gas station.

Officer Adam Madera says the men got in an argument about 2 a.m. Sunday over "Santa's girlfriend, Mrs. Claus.")

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2014/12/21/santa-shooting-detroit/20728403/ (http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2014/12/21/santa-shooting-detroit/20728403/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 21, 2014, 06:09:59 PM
maybe they thought her jewelry was the real stuff...

(http://faceybros.com/wp-content/uploads/Sexy-Santa-0049.jpg)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on December 21, 2014, 06:11:11 PM
maybe they thought her jewelry was the real stuff...

([url]http://faceybros.com/wp-content/uploads/Sexy-Santa-0049.jpg[/url])


I might shoot someone for that!

 :o
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 21, 2014, 06:35:08 PM
Isn't it odd how people protest others showing their faith -

Can't imagine there are that many devil worshippers around - but hey we still have freedoms...  regardless of the ACLU


(http://monroenews.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2014/12/21/Satanic_Display-Capit_Gorc_t1200.jpg?57a0c2296240c280e9492005c3cad63e7cbe80f4)


http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/21/satanic-group-puts-display-michigan-capitol/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/21/satanic-group-puts-display-michigan-capitol/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Mayonnaise on December 21, 2014, 06:40:08 PM
Mayo - how did your Santa gig go?

 ;D

Detroit police say that a man in a Santa suit is behind bars after shooting two men during a confrontation at a downtown gas station.

Officer Adam Madera says the men got in an argument about 2 a.m. Sunday over "Santa's girlfriend, Mrs. Claus." ([url]http://Detroit[/url] police say that a man in a Santa suit is behind bars after shooting two men during a confrontation at a downtown gas station.

Officer Adam Madera says the men got in an argument about 2 a.m. Sunday over "Santa's girlfriend, Mrs. Claus.")

[url]http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2014/12/21/santa-shooting-detroit/20728403/[/url] ([url]http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2014/12/21/santa-shooting-detroit/20728403/[/url])

It went really good. Too bad it was the only one I've gotten since July.
No it wasn't me... The one I did was local. Honest.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on December 21, 2014, 06:41:29 PM
It went really good. Too bad it was the only one I've gotten since July.
No it wasn't me... The one I did was local. Honest.

Glad to hear that it went well!

I hope you get more!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on December 21, 2014, 06:43:09 PM
Isn't it odd how people protest others showing their faith -

Can't imagine there are that many devil worshippers around - but hey we still have freedoms...  regardless of the ACLU


([url]http://monroenews.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2014/12/21/Satanic_Display-Capit_Gorc_t1200.jpg?57a0c2296240c280e9492005c3cad63e7cbe80f4[/url])


[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/21/satanic-group-puts-display-michigan-capitol/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/21/satanic-group-puts-display-michigan-capitol/[/url])



Is it just me - or is the snake wearing fishnet pantyhose?

That is kind of one kinky satanic snake if you ask me!

 :)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Mayonnaise on December 21, 2014, 06:54:14 PM
Glad to hear that it went well!

I hope you get more!
Thanks. I hope so. I tried to get the job for Monroe and Ida this year but for Monroe, I guess I don't know the right people. For Ida, I was told their Santa has one more year. I'm not sure if that's true or not.
I thought maybe a country Santa for the fair parade.
A lot of businesses and groups usually already have someone so I think it's just going to be just being at the right place at the right time.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 21, 2014, 10:11:42 PM
Fuzz could probably do a good Santa stand in (stuffed of course) at some local gig, if all the girls were legal and young that sat on his lap....dirty old man..... ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 21, 2014, 10:14:17 PM
maybe they thought her jewelry was the real stuff...

([url]http://faceybros.com/wp-content/uploads/Sexy-Santa-0049.jpg[/url])


That, would obviously get stuck in a chimney but have plenty of volunteers to help 'unstuck' her.... ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on December 22, 2014, 08:11:34 AM
Fuzz could probably do a good Santa stand in (stuffed of course) at some local gig, if all the girls were legal and young that sat on his lap....dirty old man..... ;D

I'm thinking I could do that provided my chair was put in a private room, and perhaps a swing hung from the ceiling.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Mayonnaise on December 22, 2014, 08:37:19 AM
I'm thinking I could do that provided my chair was put in a private room, and perhaps a swing hung from the ceiling.
Set it up like the Santa scene from "A Christmas Story"... After your done with "the visit" they go down the slide into the Puddin' Pit.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on December 22, 2014, 09:50:42 AM
I'm thinking I could do that provided my chair was put in a private room, and perhaps a swing hung from the ceiling.

That would be my neighbor....  in front of a bay window
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 22, 2014, 12:28:42 PM
From a friend:

It is rare that our telecommunicators (dispatchers and call takers) get the credit they deserve. They are the critical link between someone calling 9-1-1 and help arriving. This is just one of the good deeds they routinely do that goes unnoticed. Next time you see one or talk with one, please tell them "thank you" for a job well done!

"DISPATCH Monthly Magazine
Flood Of 911 Calls Turns Into A Good Deed
Posted: 18 Dec 2014 11:35 PM PST
Dispatchers at the Valley Emergency Communications Center (Utah) were answering 911 calls from a unregistered cellular phone every 10 seconds or, tallying over 4,000 in one week last month. The heavy call load tied up their 911 lines and diverted them from promptly handling other emergency calls. They enlisted the police to track down the offender, hoping to stop the calls and send the person to jail. But then, the situation quickly turned. Police traced the calls to a cell phone being used by a man with a mental disability, who was using the phone to play music on the deactivated handset. Somehow, as he listened, the man repeatedly dialed 911. Hearing that story, the dispatchers quickly raised money to buy the man an iPod and a $100 iTunes gift card so he could keep listening to his music, but without the chance to misdial 911."
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 23, 2014, 08:36:31 AM
From a friend:

It is rare that our telecommunicators (dispatchers and call takers) get the credit they deserve. They are the critical link between someone calling 9-1-1 and help arriving. This is just one of the good deeds they routinely do that goes unnoticed. Next time you see one or talk with one, please tell them "thank you" for a job well done!

"DISPATCH Monthly Magazine
Flood Of 911 Calls Turns Into A Good Deed
Posted: 18 Dec 2014 11:35 PM PST
Dispatchers at the Valley Emergency Communications Center (Utah) were answering 911 calls from a unregistered cellular phone every 10 seconds or, tallying over 4,000 in one week last month. The heavy call load tied up their 911 lines and diverted them from promptly handling other emergency calls. They enlisted the police to track down the offender, hoping to stop the calls and send the person to jail. But then, the situation quickly turned. Police traced the calls to a cell phone being used by a man with a mental disability, who was using the phone to play music on the deactivated handset. Somehow, as he listened, the man repeatedly dialed 911. Hearing that story, the dispatchers quickly raised money to buy the man an iPod and a $100 iTunes gift card so he could keep listening to his music, but without the chance to misdial 911."

So typical today that even a dispatcher (assuming that was their feelings and not what the reporter wrote) jumps to the 'conclusion' that someone is intentionally messing with them.  Fortunately this time there was a positive and newsworthy outcome! 

Did it ever say what kind of a phone it was?

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 23, 2014, 08:43:15 AM
Another fire in the city this morning.  My wife has the day off so I wasn't up but did hear the scanner talking around 5am.  Hagans street, only a few blocks from the current 'ambulance quarters'!  The city and Monroetown responded promptly but couldn't knock it down with the water on their trucks...   and either the water line or the hydrant itself failed.  They had to back off on the attack and go into a defensive mode while they found a hydrant that did have water.  I thought I heard someone say the one the found was about 6-700 feet away.  MonroeTown is just now clearing the scene.

Have no fear though...   

they'll all be ready to respond on Christmas Eve...   

Christmas morning....   

Christmas night!!!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 23, 2014, 08:52:25 AM
And now they're calling for the water department to respond to the scene...

when they did unhook the firetruck from the hydrant they couldn't shut the water off!!! 

Sounds like maybe it's time for some hydrant maintenance :o :o :o
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 23, 2014, 09:06:53 AM
That section of town has some old hydrants and mains - likely it broke under the pressure of being used...   
The FF's test hydrants annually - (or at least when they had more than one or two) - curious if the PSO's helped?   after all you only need a wrench and wheels.   They also check the older ones that still need pumping before the winter freeze. 

Citizens are still just learning about the "ambulance station" and the opposite end of town's station not being staffed 24/7...     

but at least they have all the crimes being solved ;-)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on December 23, 2014, 09:20:31 AM
I guess the water department still has more mains out there that need replaced after all.

I guess having firefighters really doesn't matter when the waterlines are wore out.

Its still in better shape than it was a few short years ago.  The city has been pretty aggressive in replacing them.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 23, 2014, 09:21:27 AM
That section of town has some old hydrants and mains - likely it broke under the pressure of being used...   
The FF's test hydrants annually - (or at least when they had more than one or two) - curious if the PSO's helped?   after all you only need a wrench and wheels.   They also check the older ones that still need pumping before the winter freeze. 

Citizens are still just learning about the "ambulance station" and the opposite end of town's station not being staffed 24/7...     

but at least they have all the crimes being solved ;-)

The general citizenry knows that they hear sirens every day...

they see fire trucks zipping this way and that way...

all is well...

until it's their home on fire or their loved one laying on the floor waiting precious 'minutes'  for emergency care to arrive!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on December 23, 2014, 09:29:12 AM
It is so amusing all the problems of the city being solved by the township folk....

 ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 23, 2014, 10:49:35 AM
It is so amusing all the problems of the city being solved by the township folk....

 ;D
and yet you actually "NEED" those townships...   to solve the city's experiment with PSO's.   

Curious when they will start asking for the Police to respond in the townships ?   
Same difference but only in reverse. - and they have a fancy name for the inability to provide your own staffing - "automatic aid"   ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on December 23, 2014, 11:40:30 AM
Hey - my solution is to combine the City of Monroe, Monroe Town, French Town into one Municipality.

It would make sense on many many levels.

I have to think if a few of us sat down in a room we could hammer out something that worked, and saved a ton of money, and improved services for everyone involved.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Mayonnaise on December 23, 2014, 12:27:56 PM
Hey - my solution is to combine the City of Monroe, Monroe Town, French Town into one Municipality.

It would make sense on many many levels.

I have to think if a few of us sat down in a room we could hammer out something that worked, and saved a ton of money, and improved services for everyone involved.
I’ve talked about that to a few Monroe Twp. Board members in the past and was told that “IF” that was to be considered, it would have to be put on a ballot and voted on by the resident’s. From the comments made from some residents during those times, none really wanted to get involved with City issues however; there were a few that would have liked to have been able to vote for the Mayor.
I can’t really say about Frenchtown but it seems there’s always been some-sort of territory and utilities issues at times. That is said why Frenchtown built their own water treatment plant.- Just my observation and opinion.
Now “IF” Monroe and/or Frenchtown became part of the City… Would City officials have over-all power of decision making? Would the respective Township Board members be able to keep their positions? I’m sure that there would be other details to work out. Again, “IF” a merger would happen.
Just my opinion… I think some people would not like to give up some of the power and/or position that they have. Either in the City, Monroe or Frenchtown.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 23, 2014, 08:16:33 PM
I’ve talked about that to a few Monroe Twp. Board members in the past and was told that “IF” that was to be considered, it would have to be put on a ballot and voted on by the resident’s. From the comments made from some residents during those times, none really wanted to get involved with City issues however; there were a few that would have liked to have been able to vote for the Mayor.
I can’t really say about Frenchtown but it seems there’s always been some-sort of territory and utilities issues at times. That is said why Frenchtown built their own water treatment plant.- Just my observation and opinion.
Now “IF” Monroe and/or Frenchtown became part of the City… Would City officials have over-all power of decision making? Would the respective Township Board members be able to keep their positions? I’m sure that there would be other details to work out. Again, “IF” a merger would happen.
Just my opinion… I think some people would not like to give up some of the power and/or position that they have. Either in the City, Monroe or Frenchtown.


There are too many benefits to make it ever work around here...  ;)

There are a variety of models that would work, in my opinion - the more favorable one would be County wide (you keep County and City government - as each has their own benefits/requirements under state laws) -
This establishes services and taxes along the same levels for starters - and then when the City/County starts to expand - or has the call for greater service levels they can address it.   Everyone votes for Mayor .   

Kansas City Kansas made that model work - and have been growing businesses and service, with benefits of larger tax base shared among all...
I have a friend in the area - and they kept the volunteer stations where needed until the population/services needed expanded and called for it.

It would be real easy to do it with just the 3 units - if the politicians ever got out of the business of protecting fiefdoms and looking at what is the best for their constituents...
Problem is the Townships would be the ones "giving" in appearance - as the City under State Laws would be the logical end form of any merger.     
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on December 23, 2014, 08:39:50 PM
It doesn't seem to happen in Michigan though.

It does in other States.

I blame that directly on our Legislature.

One more area that Michigan is lagging behind other states - and it shows.

Must protect the Fiefdom.  Screw the citizens.

Hence we have the MCRC and Shitty Roads - and we get to vote on a Sales Tax Increase - but I guess that is a topic for another thread.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on December 24, 2014, 07:12:22 AM
The FF's test hydrants annually - (or at least when they had more than one or two) - curious if the PSO's helped?   after all you only need a wrench and wheels.   They also check the older ones that still need pumping before the winter freeze. 

Seems to me that annual test should be done by the Water Department.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Brian Beneteau on December 24, 2014, 07:35:18 AM
That section of town has some old hydrants and mains - likely it broke under the pressure of being used...   
The FF's test hydrants annually - (or at least when they had more than one or two) - curious if the PSO's helped?   after all you only need a wrench and wheels.   They also check the older ones that still need pumping before the winter freeze. 

Citizens are still just learning about the "ambulance station" and the opposite end of town's station not being staffed 24/7...     

but at least they have all the crimes being solved ;-)
If I remember correctly, the Spainhower fire had a fully staffed (or overstaffed as it was) fire department, and those hydrants in the near proximity were either frozen up, or just didn't work! Seems all of those on duty still couldn't handle their responsibilities. Were you a Captain at that time?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on December 24, 2014, 07:39:18 AM
OMG, WOW.......now that is a display of trash talk that made me nearly spit coffee on the keyboard!

I am curious though you two, shouldn't that be the responsibility of the water department to flush and test hydrants on a regular basis to make sure there are no issues?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Brian Beneteau on December 24, 2014, 07:44:28 AM
OMG, WOW.......now that is a display of trash talk that made me nearly spit coffee on the keyboard!

I am curious though you two, shouldn't that be the responsibility of the water department to flush and test hydrants on a regular basis to make sure there are no issues?
That would make the most sense Fuzz. They would have more experience with the mechanical aspects of the hydrant, as well as the water pressure. I mean, after all, anyone can turn on a water faucet, but it would take a call to the plumber for most to have one installed!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on December 24, 2014, 07:53:42 AM
Kinda what I thought too Brian.

It is a function of the water system and therefore the responsibility should lie within that department to determine the testing frequency based on water line failures in specific areas that hydrants are on.  Some of the hydrants may need to be tested on a more frequent basis than annually if it is on a line experiencing more failures......of which the Water Department would have more familiarity with.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Brian Beneteau on December 24, 2014, 08:11:46 AM
Kinda what I thought too Brian.

It is a function of the water system and therefore the responsibility should lie within that department to determine the testing frequency based on water line failures in specific areas that hydrants are on.  Some of the hydrants may need to be tested on a more frequent basis than annually if it is on a line experiencing more failures......of which the Water Department would have more familiarity with.
Replacements of failing hydrants and water lines have been of the highest priority since the Spainhower fire, as well as a fire on, I believe, Winchester Street a few years back. I'm not sure of the current progress  nor the current priorities unfortunately.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on December 24, 2014, 08:28:43 AM
That's kinda my point Brian......the Water Department would/should know where the new, old, and previous failed hydrants and lines are more so than any other department.  Just makes sense to me that they would determine the testing frequency on hydrants on old lines (perhaps 2 or 3 tests a year until replaced), and the ones on new lines perhaps just annually.

Makes no sense to me to have the PSO folks even part of it.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Brian Beneteau on December 24, 2014, 08:36:03 AM
That's kinda my point Brian......the Water Department would/should know where the new, old, and previous failed hydrants and lines are more so than any other department.  Just makes sense to me that they would determine the testing frequency on hydrants on old lines (perhaps 2 or 3 tests a year until replaced), and the ones on new lines perhaps just annually.

Makes no sense to me to have the PSO folks even part of it.
Not to mention that there should be random tests throughout the year, even winter, so that residents are assured that when there is a fire, there is absolutely no question that there will be appropriate water at the hydrant!
Perhaps that is why, way back when, the fire department was put in charge of testing the hydrants....so they could be sure the water was there for their own use and protection....without relying on another department?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on December 24, 2014, 09:05:36 AM
I can see how it became that way if there were enough failures to the point of compromising the safety of the public and firefighters, but that is neglecting to hold the department responsible for the operation of the water system by those whom they report to.

That should be fixed and accountability established if it has not been already. 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 24, 2014, 03:52:50 PM
Funny to hear people speculate on things they have no real knowledge on... 

Back in History of MFD:
The fire department used to be charged a line item in their budget for hydrants - as the water department had no mandate on fire hydrants.

The fire department was the only agency that checked them annually and also was engaged in painting them...

Why did the fire department do this - their lives depend on water supplies...

Flow test to ensure they were operational - and then the fall winterizing checks to see if any needed to be pumped (the self draining ones could plug up and where later outmoded as they were concerned about contamination feedback) 

The major problem is that after these test are often performed - many other entities have access and may use those hydrants...  street sweepers, construction crews, even the water department.   

Poorly constructed hydrants may leak as well...  so when the ground freezes, you may have hydrants that are frozen and out of service.   
For major fires you need to also consider drawing from hydrants on separate mains, as you can pump too much from a main and cause problems there as well... but that is a hydraulics class for pump operators - not sure how they teach them today... 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 24, 2014, 04:06:11 PM
If I remember correctly, the Spainhower fire had a fully staffed (or overstaffed as it was) fire department, and those hydrants in the near proximity were either frozen up, or just didn't work! Seems all of those on duty still couldn't handle their responsibilities. Were you a Captain at that time?

Funny the buildings on either side are still in business... 
No one was injured -
and yes - hydrants were inoperable but in this case we used - not abused the mutual aid system...    ;D

Take any fire that has gone to the attic/roof - and you will be hard pressed to put it out -   
I hope you never have to see how the experiment works if one ever happened downtown...   
 I was on many that were confined  - but then again that pesky staffing/time issue arises...     before they increased staff - they lost the Mad Hatter, and the old bowling alley downtown. 

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 24, 2014, 04:08:07 PM
It doesn't seem to happen in Michigan though.

It does in other States.

I blame that directly on our Legislature.

One more area that Michigan is lagging behind other states - and it shows.

Must protect the Fiefdom.  Screw the citizens.

Hence we have the MCRC and Shitty Roads - and we get to vote on a Sales Tax Increase - but I guess that is a topic for another thread.
It was probably the only good thing Granholm ever "tried" to do... 
but alas was unsuccessful in getting it even started.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Brian Beneteau on December 24, 2014, 04:11:47 PM
Funny the buildings on either side are still in business... 
No one was injured -
and yes - hydrants were inoperable but in this case we used - not abused the mutual aid system...    ;D

Take any fire that has gone to the attic/roof - and you will be hard pressed to put it out -   
I hope you never have to see how the experiment works if one ever happened downtown...   
 I was on many that were confined  - but then again that pesky staffing/time issue arises...     before they increased staff - they lost the Mad Hatter, and the old bowling alley downtown.
Fortunately building and fire codes have decreased the chance of the Mad Hatter type of fire. Fire blocking, fire board, two hour fire separation between floors, fire caulking, etc.
That was a great fire though! Stood across the street and watched.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Brian Beneteau on December 24, 2014, 04:18:01 PM
Funny to hear people speculate on things they have no real knowledge on... 

Back in History of MFD:
The fire department used to be charged a line item in their budget for hydrants - as the water department had no mandate on fire hydrants.

The fire department was the only agency that checked them annually and also was engaged in painting them...

 :Dd

Flow test to ensure they were operational - and then the fall winterizing checks to see if any needed to be pumped (the self draining ones could plug up and where later outmoded as they were concerned about contamination feedback) 

The major problem is that after these test are often performed - many other entities have access and may use those hydrants...  street sweepers, construction crews, even the water department.   

Poorly constructed hydrants may leak as well...  so when the ground freezes, you may have hydrants that are frozen and out of service.   
For major fires you need to also consider drawing from hydrants on separate mains, as you can pump too much from a main and cause problems there as well... but that is a hydraulics class for pump operators - not sure how they teach them today...
Guess I speculated somewhat correctly, lol.
"Perhaps that is why, way back when, the fire department was put in charge of testing the hydrants....so they could be sure the water was there for their own use and protection....without relying on another department?"
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 24, 2014, 07:29:15 PM
Another fire in the city this morning.  My wife has the day off so I wasn't up but did hear the scanner talking around 5am.  Hagans street, only a few blocks from the current 'ambulance quarters'!  The city and Monroetown responded promptly but couldn't knock it down with the water on their trucks...   and either the water line or the hydrant itself failed.  They had to back off on the attack and go into a defensive mode while they found a hydrant that did have water.  I thought I heard someone say the one the found was about 6-700 feet away.  MonroeTown is just now clearing the scene.

Have no fear though...   

they'll all be ready to respond on Christmas Eve...   

Christmas morning....   

Christmas night!!!


Just saw that there was a woman critically injured in this fire!

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/24/monroe-home-damaged-blaze/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/24/monroe-home-damaged-blaze/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Mayonnaise on December 24, 2014, 08:38:28 PM
Monroe police officer injured in crash
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/24/monroe-police-officer-injured-crash/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/24/monroe-police-officer-injured-crash/)

First of all, I'm glad injuries were not serious. It is stated that
Quote
The cause of the accident is unknown at this time, Sgt. Tolstedt said.

Secondly, I noticed no mention that the officer was cited for failure to maintain his vehicle... That would include for current weather and road conditions. . I know if it was me or some other people I know, we would have got a ticket.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 24, 2014, 10:50:09 PM
Monroe police officer injured in crash
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/24/monroe-police-officer-injured-crash/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/24/monroe-police-officer-injured-crash/[/url])

First of all, I'm glad injuries were not serious. It is stated that Secondly, I noticed no mention that the officer was cited for failure to maintain his vehicle... That would include for current weather and road conditions. . I know if it was me or some other people I know, we would have got a ticket.


I know Josh, he's a pretty conscientious officer.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 25, 2014, 09:34:13 AM
Guess I speculated somewhat correctly, lol.
"Perhaps that is why, way back when, the fire department was put in charge of testing the hydrants....so they could be sure the water was there for their own use and protection....without relying on another department?"
LOL - you are starting to sound like another poster that is never wrong...
You missed the point that hydrants weren't a thing the water department had much use for -   In fact if you didn't have houses in an area - they used to just not put them in.      Going out S.Custer towards the fairgrounds on the River side is a good example,  unless they've gone back an added some there is a long stretch between hydrants. 

I never said we didn't need assistance from time to time of other departments, we just didn't abuse it to the point where you now rely on them to fill your needs.   Sad that the last fire was a few blocks from the shuttered fire station -
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on December 25, 2014, 09:39:10 AM
LOL - you are starting to sound like another poster that is never wrong...

Prof?  Are you talking about yourself in the third person?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 25, 2014, 09:41:50 AM
Monroe police officer injured in crash
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/24/monroe-police-officer-injured-crash/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/24/monroe-police-officer-injured-crash/[/url])

First of all, I'm glad injuries were not serious. It is stated that Secondly, I noticed no mention that the officer was cited for failure to maintain his vehicle... That would include for current weather and road conditions. . I know if it was me or some other people I know, we would have got a ticket.


With Cell phones, radio, computer, I'm surprised we haven't had (or if so it was minor and didn't make the news) more incidents...

(http://monroenews.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2014/12/24/police_1224_alex_1_t670.JPG?b3f6a5d7692ccc373d56e40cf708e3fa67d9af9d)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 25, 2014, 09:43:03 AM
Prof?  Are you talking about yourself in the third person?
I know you'll be shocked to learn - but I have made a few mistakes  ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on December 25, 2014, 09:47:16 AM
I know you'll be shocked to learn - but I have made a few mistakes  ;D

Me too!

We have alot in common.

Heck - I have things in common with that Police Officer too.

I've wrecked a few of those big Panther cars in my day.  Its easy to do!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on December 25, 2014, 09:59:26 AM
Prof?  Are you talking about yourself in the third person?

LOL, the funny part is that you don't recognize the varying levels of self-righteousness, know it all persona you put on display at times. 

Merry Xmas!

With Cell phones, radio, computer, I'm surprised we haven't had (or if so it was minor and didn't make the news) more incidents...


That is something I had not considered.  Lots of distractions in that cockpit.

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Brian Beneteau on December 25, 2014, 08:46:24 PM
LOL - you are starting to sound like another poster that is never wrong...
You missed the point that hydrants weren't a thing the water department had much use for -   In fact if you didn't have houses in an area - they used to just not put them in.      Going out S.Custer towards the fairgrounds on the River side is a good example,  unless they've gone back an added some there is a long stretch between hydrants. 

I never said we didn't need assistance from time to time of other departments, we just didn't abuse it to the point where you now rely on them to fill your needs.   Sad that the last fire was a few blocks from the shuttered fire station -
I never said I was never wrong, however in this case, I stated an opinion that sounded pretty similar to your comment.
As far as you tapping into the subject of mutual or automatic aid, if more municipalities trained together to simply take care of people without worrying about whose toes are being stepped on, the taxpayers would reap the benefits. Yeah, yeah, your department was cut down in staffing, we are aware of that. But the City should be responding anywhere close, say Ruff Drive, regardless if it isn't in the City, and townships should also respond when close. That is the right thing to do...and it is what is being done!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on December 25, 2014, 09:15:17 PM
I never said I was never wrong, however in this case, I stated an opinion that sounded pretty similar to your comment.
As far as you tapping into the subject of mutual or automatic aid, if more municipalities trained together to simply take care of people without worrying about whose toes are being stepped on, the taxpayers would reap the benefits. Yeah, yeah, your department was cut down in staffing, we are aware of that. But the City should be responding anywhere close, say Ruff Drive, regardless if it isn't in the City, and townships should also respond when close. That is the right thing to do...and it is what is being done!

Wow!

Have you ever thought about running for public office?

 ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 25, 2014, 10:06:57 PM
I never said I was never wrong, however in this case, I stated an opinion that sounded pretty similar to your comment.
As far as you tapping into the subject of mutual or automatic aid, if more municipalities trained together to simply take care of people without worrying about whose toes are being stepped on, the taxpayers would reap the benefits. Yeah, yeah, your department was cut down in staffing, we are aware of that. But the City should be responding anywhere close, say Ruff Drive, regardless if it isn't in the City, and townships should also respond when close. That is the right thing to do...and it is what is being done!

So we can expect the police to reciprocate in the future?   

After all its the right thing to do - heck they can even train with the Deputies and stop using separate doors to go in the same building someday  ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: NewDawn on December 26, 2014, 06:20:58 AM
Just saw that there was a woman critically injured in this fire!

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/24/monroe-home-damaged-blaze/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/24/monroe-home-damaged-blaze/[/url])


BRD. The woman's friend, posted on FB, that she passed away yesterday. She was only 59 years old.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 26, 2014, 08:28:00 AM
BRD. The woman's friend, posted on FB, that she passed away yesterday. She was only 59 years old.

Thanks NewDawn...   I hadn't heard that.

After I re-read the article a couple of times I realized I know one of the guys that was in the house too. 

How terrible for her family to have her pass on Christmas day :( :( :(
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Brian Beneteau on December 26, 2014, 10:27:24 AM
So we can expect the police to reciprocate in the future?   

After all its the right thing to do - heck they can even train with the Deputies and stop using separate doors to go in the same building someday  ;)
If all of the townships chipped in their fair share for police protection, then absolutely!
Problem right now is that some townships who wish to put on a false faćade for their residents will contract with the MCSD for a Deputy...however, those Deputies may be called out to any calls in the County at any given time, thus leaving absolutely no protection for those townships. Not to mention that even though they are contracting for those services, the rest of us are subsidizing that protection...since they only pick up, I believe, 80% of the costs.
Dundee saw the problem with contracting Deputies, and found that having their own force for their village was more beneficial for their residents.
As before, let's both call 911 for a break in, and I'll bet you that I get a MPD unit or two before you ever hope to see a MCSD car! And that's not knocking the Sheriff's Department...as they can only do as much as they can with their limited staff!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on December 26, 2014, 10:33:30 AM
This is way over my head but it seems like a centralized force like the MCSD could be more effective and less costly than every village and township having their own police force.  But it would required cooperation..hum!!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 26, 2014, 11:12:37 AM
This is way over my head but it seems like a centralized force like the MCSD could be more effective and less costly than every village and township having their own police force.  But it would required cooperation..hum!!

Think about it this way blue2...

many, many years ago each township took care of their own roads and from what I've read they were in pretty good condition for the day.

Then, some of the 'good people' all got together and mulled idea around of having a 'County wide road commission'...

Take your exact words above and substitute 'road commission' for "police force"...

at least now we have the benefit of being able to look back and see how well that is working out for the taxpayers ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Brian Beneteau on December 26, 2014, 11:32:48 AM
Wow!

Have you ever thought about running for public office?

 ;D
Nope! I am enjoying my time with my family instead!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: tnweasel on December 26, 2014, 12:46:01 PM
Thanks NewDawn...   I hadn't heard that.

After I re-read the article a couple of times I realized I know one of the guys that was in the house too. 

How terrible for her family to have her pass on Christmas day :( :( :(

I met this lady when she did volunteer work at a local shelter where I worked several years ago.....she was always a pleasant, hardworking lady.....liked and respected her..... my sympathies for her friends and family....
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 26, 2014, 04:21:07 PM
If all of the townships chipped in their fair share for police protection, then absolutely!
Problem right now is that some townships who wish to put on a false faćade for their residents will contract with the MCSD for a Deputy...however, those Deputies may be called out to any calls in the County at any given time, thus leaving absolutely no protection for those townships. Not to mention that even though they are contracting for those services, the rest of us are subsidizing that protection...since they only pick up, I believe, 80% of the costs.
Dundee saw the problem with contracting Deputies, and found that having their own force for their village was more beneficial for their residents.
As before, let's both call 911 for a break in, and I'll bet you that I get a MPD unit or two before you ever hope to see a MCSD car! And that's not knocking the Sheriff's Department...as they can only do as much as they can with their limited staff!

So on that same note - why is it okay for the fire service in the City to put on a false facade that they have 2 stations, yet they use/abuse the townships by relying on them for staffing?

but vice versa for Police is out of the question  8*

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 26, 2014, 06:43:17 PM
If all of the townships chipped in their fair share for police protection, then absolutely!
Problem right now is that some townships who wish to put on a false faćade for their residents will contract with the MCSD for a Deputy...however, those Deputies may be called out to any calls in the County at any given time, thus leaving absolutely no protection for those townships. Not to mention that even though they are contracting for those services, the rest of us are subsidizing that protection...since they only pick up, I believe, 80% of the costs.
Dundee saw the problem with contracting Deputies, and found that having their own force for their village was more beneficial for their residents.
As before, let's both call 911 for a break in, and I'll bet you that I get a MPD unit or two before you ever hope to see a MCSD car! And that's not knocking the Sheriff's Department...as they can only do as much as they can with their limited staff!

I should start reading your posts more carefully.  I totally disagree with your premise...

It was at the insistence of Uhl that Dundee formed it's own police force, as a recepticle for retited officers to 'double dip'.  Nothing more and everything less.  Get your facts straight.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: rwwjr on December 26, 2014, 06:47:55 PM
I never said I was never wrong, however in this case, I stated an opinion that sounded pretty similar to your comment.
As far as you tapping into the subject of mutual or automatic aid, if more municipalities trained together to simply take care of people without worrying about whose toes are being stepped on, the taxpayers would reap the benefits. Yeah, yeah, your department was cut down in staffing, we are aware of that. But the City should be responding anywhere close, say Ruff Drive, regardless if it isn't in the City, and townships should also respond when close. That is the right thing to do...and it is what is being done!

The West side fire station, if staffed, is responding on automatic aide to several places in Frenchtown already.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Brian Beneteau on December 26, 2014, 10:48:46 PM
I should start reading your posts more carefully.  I totally disagree with your premise...

It was at the insistence of Uhl that Dundee formed it's own police force, as a recepticle for retited officers to 'double dip'.  Nothing more and everything less.  Get your facts straight.
OK.... so let me get this straight. The Village of Dundee was receiving the same level of service as when they had contract Deputies, but then changed because Uhl insisted that they change simply to re-hire retired officers from other departments, just so they can "double dip" and make more money? Hmmmm! Either he has a tremendous amount of power over the administration, or he is just a great salesman.
As for double dipping, I can't see where it is such. Retired officers go back to work....just as other retired people go back to work. They are not hired by the same employer.
I'll stick with my premise...and totally disagree with yours.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Brian Beneteau on December 26, 2014, 10:49:41 PM
The West side fire station, if staffed, is responding on automatic aide to several places in Frenchtown already.
As they should be.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Brian Beneteau on December 26, 2014, 10:54:36 PM
So on that same note - why is it okay for the fire service in the City to put on a false facade that they have 2 stations, yet they use/abuse the townships by relying on them for staffing?

but vice versa for Police is out of the question  8*
They have two stations, currently staffed, and the automatic aid is working for the City, Frenchtown, Monroetown, etc.
The only one it doesn't seem to work for is you, lol
And since there will be three new fire hires, the level of sitting in the station waiting for a fire will be increased...if anyone is qualified to be hired due to the Civil Service process! Seems that great system you guys fought for is causing quite a problem with getting qualified candidates! It would have been a lot easier to actively search out the best candidates for the job!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 26, 2014, 11:20:13 PM
They have two stations, currently staffed, and the automatic aid is working for the City, Frenchtown, Monroetown, etc.
The only one it doesn't seem to work for is you, lol
And since there will be three new fire hires, the level of sitting in the station waiting for a fire will be increased...if anyone is qualified to be hired due to the Civil Service process! Seems that great system you guys fought for is causing quite a problem with getting qualified candidates! It would have been a lot easier to actively search out the best candidates for the job!
Might want to do your homework -
The Civil service system was voted in by the public back before I was even born...   It was done so that politicians couldn't put their buddies in positions for supporting them.  ;D
The "city politicians" - eventually gave it to the police - even though the public didn't vote it in for them...

Finding candidates to come to a department that is/was moving toward PSO could decrease your pool - as the jobs are completely different.   You've gutted the services offered to one that relies on outside agencies - and you want to sell that to quality candidates? 

I like how you are concerned about the townships providing free assistance for fires to keep the police budgeted...   
yet won't use that budget to help the townships for police emergencies  8*

Nice message -  Got a fire emergency   we need the townships - lets work together
                        Got a Police emergency - go fly a kite

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Brian Beneteau on December 26, 2014, 11:47:05 PM
Might want to do your homework -
The Civil service system was voted in by the public back before I was even born...   It was done so that politicians couldn't put their buddies in positions for supporting them.  ;D
The "city politicians" - eventually gave it to the police - even though the public didn't vote it in for them...

Finding candidates to come to a department that is/was moving toward PSO could decrease your pool - as the jobs are completely different.   You've gutted the services offered to one that relies on outside agencies - and you want to sell that to quality candidates? 

I like how you are concerned about the townships providing free assistance for fires to keep the police budgeted...   
yet won't use that budget to help the townships for police emergencies  8*

Nice message -  Got a fire emergency   we need the townships - lets work together
                        Got a Police emergency - go fly a kite
Homework? Not necessary. Practice your reading comprehension. I didn't say you created it, I said your guys fought for it (when it was on the ballot to change which would have prevented this hiring cluster flunk).
The list of candidates couldn't pass physicals...I would rather have a qualified person hired who is healthy enough to do the job and not sit getting paid because of an injury...but you know that never happened, lol
Plus, the job being hired for is fire, not PSO, so you might want to do your homework Professor!
Unfortunately you compare an apple to a football, so just stick with the services you demand out in Raisinville/Ida...oh that's right, you only care about the service City residents receive.
And for the record, I always encouraged and worked toward intergovernmental cooperation...however, some areas are not as simple as others.
Noticed that Lasalle (with Monroe Township Aid) responded to a fire. Is that an ok arrangement, or should that not occur either?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 27, 2014, 12:32:30 AM
Fire has always cooperated - because in our world an emergency is an emergency...  but we also see results from our work.

Police - heaven forbid anyone share your precious service... 
those emergencies in the township are not to be bothered with

So you're telling me the City can't put on a hiring list?
and somehow it's the fault of the firefighters?

That's funny and yet sad -
who runs HR, who sets standards, who advertises?
Funny how it worked for years - but all the sudden now it doesn't?

I'm guessing an old retiree could probably come back and do it - since the HR outsources all work anyhow.   

I knew the council directed to hire "FIRE" fighters... but the City manager and the police chief still have PSO on their mind - so any quality candidate may look elsewhere, as most quality candidates have more than one choice...

As far as your claims on civil service - when did the vote occur?
you make it sound like the firefighters had some magical powers to stop the citizens vote.
or was that one of the "CHARTER COMMISSION" changes that tried to make the city a kingdom - bestowing all powers over everything to one person...   ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Brian Beneteau on December 27, 2014, 12:54:53 AM
Fire has always cooperated - because in our world an emergency is an emergency...  but we also see results from our work.

Police - heaven forbid anyone share your precious service... 
those emergencies in the township are not to be bothered with

So you're telling me the City can't put on a hiring list?
and somehow it's the fault of the firefighters?

That's funny and yet sad -
who runs HR, who sets standards, who advertises?
Funny how it worked for years - but all the sudden now it doesn't?

I'm guessing an old retiree could probably come back and do it - since the HR outsources all work anyhow.   

I knew the council directed to hire "FIRE" fighters... but the City manager and the police chief still have PSO on their mind - so any quality candidate may look elsewhere, as most quality candidates have more than one choice...

As far as your claims on civil service - when did the vote occur?
you make it sound like the firefighters had some magical powers to stop the citizens vote.
or was that one of the "CHARTER COMMISSION" changes that tried to make the city a kingdom - bestowing all powers over everything to one person...   ;D
And so the circle of life continues on!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 29, 2014, 08:44:19 AM
BRD. The woman's friend, posted on FB, that she passed away yesterday. She was only 59 years old.


The MonroeNews finally has an article online about her passing:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/28/monroe-woman-injured-house-fire-dies/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/28/monroe-woman-injured-house-fire-dies/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 29, 2014, 09:42:55 AM
Shame and prayers for family,
didn't sound like a smoke detector was working in the home -
good time for all to recheck the ones we use
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 29, 2014, 10:14:12 AM
There will probably be a lot more dumpster diving around here now ;D ;D ;D

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/29/marijuana-plants-found-behind-monroe-store/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/29/marijuana-plants-found-behind-monroe-store/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 29, 2014, 10:53:37 AM
There will probably be a lot more dumpster diving around here now ;D ;D ;D

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/29/marijuana-plants-found-behind-monroe-store/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/29/marijuana-plants-found-behind-monroe-store/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter[/url])

LOL  just saw this myself -
Nice to know they are keeping us safe from this legalized drug
While heroin is no where to be found... 

How many people have died of marijuana overdoses again?

I will admit I did run out and check my dumpster  ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on December 29, 2014, 12:39:07 PM
Any Colorado golf trips planned?   ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 29, 2014, 01:00:59 PM
Shame and prayers for family,
didn't sound like a smoke detector was working in the home -
good time for all to recheck the ones we use

The 13ABC noon news had a nice piece along with some live video from the scene.  Monroe's own MacKenzie Kuehnlein (I always hope I spell both of her names right) interviewed Dale 'Randy' Bacon from the scene.  Someone is supposed to be at the scene yet this afternoon to do additional investigation.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: NewDawn on December 29, 2014, 01:49:16 PM
The MonroeNews finally has an article online about her passing:

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/28/monroe-woman-injured-house-fire-dies/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/28/monroe-woman-injured-house-fire-dies/[/url])


Thanks BRD!! I was wondering about an announcement.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on December 29, 2014, 09:01:13 PM
They said the man was mumbling about losing the MT Fantasy football league championship, and couldn't understand why nobody likes a know it all.

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/29/man-tased-after-running-oncoming-traffic/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/29/man-tased-after-running-oncoming-traffic/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on December 29, 2014, 10:22:06 PM
Two Stats in the article I find hard to believe
5k for ER visit -
50% of prisoners are mental patients
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Every time an inmate from the Monroe County jail requires medical care at an emergency room, it costs roughly $5,000.

And many of those prisoner patients have mental illnesses. But with a new grant expected to become available in January, jail and mental health officials are hoping to curtail those and other burdensome costs.

Monroe is one of a handful of Michigan counties that have been approved to receive grant dollars to offer treatment options for people with mental illness. The Monroe Community Mental Health Authority is set to receive $120,830.

“This is a very important grant,” said Jane Terwilliger, executive director of the mental health agency based on S. Raisinville Rd. “ We just don’t have money available to provide services in the jail. The Monroe County jail isn’t a mental health facility.”

Jail Administrator Maj. Troy Goodnough said the grant approval is welcome news. As many as 50 percent or more of inmates housed in jails have mental health issues, and Maj. Goodnough said providing them with counseling and other services is a great need.

“ We look forward to collaborating with CMH to provide mental health care to our inmates and the continuity of mental health care,” he said.

Ms. Terwilliger said one plan includes having a CMH staff member work from an office within the jail so contact with certain inmates could be immediate if needed.

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“ This is a great way to coordinate services,” she said. “ The jail will now become accessible to us.”

The Michigan Department of Community Health provided nearly $1.7 million in grants and the Department of Corrections contributed nearly $1 million. Six sites will be receiving the funds for pilot programs, and there are plans to expand two existing efforts to offer treatment options for people with mental illness who are imprisoned or at the risk of being imprisoned.

In addition to Monroe, pilot programs are planned for the next year in Detroit, Barry County, Berrien County, Kent County and Oakland County. Ms. Terwilliger said details of Monroe’s program still must be finalized. And, she added, she was surprised Monroe was selected because most of these types of grants are awarded to larger communities.

The programs are intended to help people prior to them becoming involved with the court system. Those in jail who are eligible can receive treatment and potential diversion from the courts. There also is discussion of creating a Mental Health Court in Monroe similar to a Veterans Court that was established this year by First District Judge Terrence Bronson.

Ms. Terwilliger said, in many instances, those with mental health issues who are not properly treated resort to criminal activity or substance abuse. If those people are treated properly, perhaps they can avoid unnecessary punishment and, at the same time, save taxpayers’ money, such as with pricey trips to the hospital.

“If we can reduce emergency room visits and recidivism at the jail, we could save money,” Ms. Terwilliger said. “That savings then can be applied to other programs.”
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/28/grant-help-monroe-county-inmates/?news (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/28/grant-help-monroe-county-inmates/?news)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Frenchfry on December 29, 2014, 10:48:49 PM
Two Stats in the article I find hard to believe
5k for ER visit -
50% of prisoners are mental patients
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Every time an inmate from the Monroe County jail requires medical care at an emergency room, it costs roughly $5,000.

And many of those prisoner patients have mental illnesses. But with a new grant expected to become available in January, jail and mental health officials are hoping to curtail those and other burdensome costs.

Monroe is one of a handful of Michigan counties that have been approved to receive grant dollars to offer treatment options for people with mental illness. The Monroe Community Mental Health Authority is set to receive $120,830.

“This is a very important grant,” said Jane Terwilliger, executive director of the mental health agency based on S. Raisinville Rd. “ We just don’t have money available to provide services in the jail. The Monroe County jail isn’t a mental health facility.”

Jail Administrator Maj. Troy Goodnough said the grant approval is welcome news. As many as 50 percent or more of inmates housed in jails have mental health issues, and Maj. Goodnough said providing them with counseling and other services is a great need.

“ We look forward to collaborating with CMH to provide mental health care to our inmates and the continuity of mental health care,” he said.

Ms. Terwilliger said one plan includes having a CMH staff member work from an office within the jail so contact with certain inmates could be immediate if needed.

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“ This is a great way to coordinate services,” she said. “ The jail will now become accessible to us.”

The Michigan Department of Community Health provided nearly $1.7 million in grants and the Department of Corrections contributed nearly $1 million. Six sites will be receiving the funds for pilot programs, and there are plans to expand two existing efforts to offer treatment options for people with mental illness who are imprisoned or at the risk of being imprisoned.

In addition to Monroe, pilot programs are planned for the next year in Detroit, Barry County, Berrien County, Kent County and Oakland County. Ms. Terwilliger said details of Monroe’s program still must be finalized. And, she added, she was surprised Monroe was selected because most of these types of grants are awarded to larger communities.

The programs are intended to help people prior to them becoming involved with the court system. Those in jail who are eligible can receive treatment and potential diversion from the courts. There also is discussion of creating a Mental Health Court in Monroe similar to a Veterans Court that was established this year by First District Judge Terrence Bronson.

Ms. Terwilliger said, in many instances, those with mental health issues who are not properly treated resort to criminal activity or substance abuse. If those people are treated properly, perhaps they can avoid unnecessary punishment and, at the same time, save taxpayers’ money, such as with pricey trips to the hospital.

“If we can reduce emergency room visits and recidivism at the jail, we could save money,” Ms. Terwilliger said. “That savings then can be applied to other programs.”
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/28/grant-help-monroe-county-inmates/?news[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/28/grant-help-monroe-county-inmates/?news[/url])
A step in the right direction. Too bad Gov. Engler (Republicans) decimated the mental health system in Michigan:
http://www.wxyz.com/news/local-news/investigations/the-dumping-ground-how-jails-and-prisons-have-become-the-last-hope-for-michigans-mentally-ill (http://www.wxyz.com/news/local-news/investigations/the-dumping-ground-how-jails-and-prisons-have-become-the-last-hope-for-michigans-mentally-ill)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on December 30, 2014, 11:15:26 AM
The 13ABC noon news had a nice piece along with some live video from the scene.  Monroe's own MacKenzie Kuehnlein (I always hope I spell both of her names right) interviewed Dale 'Randy' Bacon from the scene.  Someone is supposed to be at the scene yet this afternoon to do additional investigation.


Here's the video from yesterday:

http://www.13abc.com/story/27721683/woman-59-dies-2-days-after-fire-at-monroe-house (http://www.13abc.com/story/27721683/woman-59-dies-2-days-after-fire-at-monroe-house)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on January 01, 2015, 01:17:54 PM
First crime of the year solved...

Monroe Police investigated a complaint of child abuse when a woman who had just given birth used an open oven Monday to keep her newborn baby warm in an apartment with no heat. The woman, 23, told police she had just returned from the hospital and placed the two-day-old infant girl in a car seat on the open oven door while she called the manager of the apartment complex to find out why her heat wasn’t working. The maintenance man who responded noticed the baby in the car seat had her back to the glowing oven. After fixing the problem, the man told the woman she shouldn’t leave an infant so close to the oven. The woman then moved the car seat away from the oven. There were two other small children living in the apartment. A report of the incident was forwarded to the youth bureau and Child Protective Services.

Read more at: http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/31/woman-leaves-baby-car-seat-near-oven/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/31/woman-leaves-baby-car-seat-near-oven/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on January 01, 2015, 01:28:56 PM
The FB comments on the bottom are interesting ones......
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on January 01, 2015, 01:56:36 PM
Sounds like some new recruits for Monroe Talks on those comments!

 ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on January 01, 2015, 02:29:45 PM
Not sure why this is a story.  The landlords furnace went out so she kept baby warm by what means she had until he fixed it.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on January 01, 2015, 03:03:58 PM
True enough blue, but I can't imagine how stoned I would have to be to leave a child on the oven door.  Poor choice.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on January 01, 2015, 05:41:25 PM
Certainly nothing for Protective Services. Unless they aren't telling the whole story
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on January 01, 2015, 07:15:19 PM
Ah,,I'll have to reread. I didn't catch the oven door bit.  Yeah that's stupid
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on January 01, 2015, 07:22:17 PM
One would almost think that there could be some benefit to a Parental Test before being allowed to have children......and yes, I know that would be controversial as hell but I'm only thinking of the poor children.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on January 01, 2015, 07:30:59 PM
I have to wonder......  aren't those seats made out of plastic?

Was it melting?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on January 01, 2015, 08:08:33 PM
I have to wonder......  aren't those seats made out of plastic?

Was it melting?
I highly doubt that the temperature of an open oven - would get that hot, also, we are talking about a mothers instinct to keep her 2 day old infant warm -  not rising to a standard of neglect - thus my comment about why was child protective services called?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on January 01, 2015, 08:15:35 PM
Everything was ok except putting on the oven door.  A chairi in front of oven maybe would have been better option.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 01, 2015, 08:17:14 PM
I highly doubt that the temperature of an open oven - would get that hot, also, we are talking about a mothers instinct to keep her 2 day old infant warm -  not rising to a standard of neglect - thus my comment about why was child protective services called?

My comment is, the maintenance man should have minded his own business.  Too many people mind other's businsss when their own store's are in dissarray.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on January 01, 2015, 08:25:44 PM
The fact he called the police, and they called protective services, makes me think something happened.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on January 01, 2015, 08:33:53 PM
Everything was ok except putting on the oven door.  A chairi in front of oven maybe would have been better option.

I agree.

I highly doubt that the temperature of an open oven - would get that hot, also, we are talking about a mothers instinct to keep her 2 day old infant warm -  not rising to a standard of neglect - thus my comment about why was child protective services called?

I agree on the plastic statement, and kind of agree with the second....the system is over burdened trying to keep up in that service, but still, it was stupid and one of those things if damned if you do, damned if you don't.  Personally, I would have scolded the hell out of her and made her think I was going to do it for such a stupid act.

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 01, 2015, 08:35:58 PM
Anything reported in a paper today is always riddled with holes.  Nothing is factual and concise anyway.......  Can't even get the weather right......lol
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on January 01, 2015, 08:42:45 PM
... a spanking then - Agreed!

but Child protective services should maybe address a landlords problem with heating a house in the winter...   but instead of that - they want to make it look like the mother was abusing her kids.
That whole agency is secretive and doesn't seem to answer to anyone - I've reported stuff that actually was bad - and never heard a peep.

I think they report to the land buying arm of the MCRC
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on January 01, 2015, 08:46:59 PM
How is it a Landlord problem Prof?

She called - and the guy showed up to work on it.

The paper didn't say the heat had been out for a month.

For all we know she didn't pay the gas bill.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on January 01, 2015, 08:56:33 PM
How is it a Landlord problem Prof?

She called - and the guy showed up to work on it.

The paper didn't say the heat had been out for a month.

For all we know she didn't pay the gas bill.

So landlords are in the habit of shutting off heat/ gas in the winter now?

Apparently the maintenance man knows more than we do - he's the one who called the police.   The "NEWS" is very limited in what facts they put forth.

I'd say a landlord who can't provide proper heating equipment would qualify - but then again we are all speculating.   we don't even know if it was gas or electric... 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: sammy on January 01, 2015, 08:57:26 PM
How is it a Landlord problem Prof?

She called - and the guy showed up to work on it.

The paper didn't say the heat had been out for a month.

For all we know she didn't pay the gas bill.
But the oven worked.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on January 01, 2015, 08:59:55 PM
I think they report to the land buying arm of the MCRC

LOL.....excellent analogy.  I gotta remember that one.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on January 01, 2015, 09:30:52 PM
Apparently more to story than what was reported.  Wouldn't say putting baby on oven door is reason for a maint man to call police.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on January 02, 2015, 09:41:22 PM
you don't report an assault when it happened
because someone has a warrant - but report it the next day?

Geniuses we are not dealing with...  8*


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A man and woman both suffered facial injuries after another man attempted to snatch the woman’s purse while in the back parking lot of Denny’s Restaurant in Monroe Saturday night. The woman, 30, told deputies the man grabbed her purse about 10 p. m. Saturday just after she exited her vehicle to go inside the restaurant. The man struck her several times in the face. The other man who drove the vehicle intervened on the woman’s behalf and was bitten on his nose after he attempted to hold the attacker down on the ground. The man then fled southbound toward the Cracker Barrel restaurant, deputies said. The man and woman didn’t report the assault until Monday because the woman had an outstanding warrant for her arrest for shoplifting from Woodhaven Police

Read more at: http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/02/man-woman-assaulted-parking-lot-monroe-dennys/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/02/man-woman-assaulted-parking-lot-monroe-dennys/)

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 03, 2015, 03:16:31 PM
you don't report an assault when it happened
because someone has a warrant - but report it the next day?

Geniuses we are not dealing with...  8*


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A man and woman both suffered facial injuries after another man attempted to snatch the woman’s purse while in the back parking lot of Denny’s Restaurant in Monroe Saturday night. The woman, 30, told deputies the man grabbed her purse about 10 p. m. Saturday just after she exited her vehicle to go inside the restaurant. The man struck her several times in the face. The other man who drove the vehicle intervened on the woman’s behalf and was bitten on his nose after he attempted to hold the attacker down on the ground. The man then fled southbound toward the Cracker Barrel restaurant, deputies said. The man and woman didn’t report the assault until Monday because the woman had an outstanding warrant for her arrest for shoplifting from Woodhaven Police

Read more at: [url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/02/man-woman-assaulted-parking-lot-monroe-dennys/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/02/man-woman-assaulted-parking-lot-monroe-dennys/[/url])


I'm thinking she went and turned herself in on the warrant and got that taken care of and then came back to Monroe and reported this incident...  otherwise she was not passing Go and was not collecting her $200...  but she would have been going directly to jail in Monroe while she waited a day or two for the paperwork to get taken care of and get her back to downriver!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 03, 2015, 03:18:38 PM
Not sure if a measly $1400 worth of stuff from Cabela's would be worth getting run over by a semi truck!!!

And for the record...   they guy was a shoplifter and not a 'robber'!!!

 http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/robber-at-cabelas-almost-hit-by-truck-on-us23-while-fleeing-police/30513738 (http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/robber-at-cabelas-almost-hit-by-truck-on-us23-while-fleeing-police/30513738)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 03, 2015, 07:01:42 PM
Usually the pizza delivery guy has to worry about a robber shooting at him...

not the homeowner!!!

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/03/gun-fired-pizza-delivery-dispute/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/03/gun-fired-pizza-delivery-dispute/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on January 03, 2015, 07:40:15 PM
LOL.....and it looks like we found out where Jan Jay is.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on January 03, 2015, 10:47:59 PM
LOL.....and it looks like we found out where Jan Jay is.
I thought that was a Bretschnider (sp) thing - you know fire warning shots from the castle... 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on January 06, 2015, 09:03:57 AM
Toledo's Franklin Park Mall limiting kids on weekends after 4:00PM.  17 and younger must be with a 21 year responsible adult.  Security will be at all entrances limiting access.    Long past due..
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on January 06, 2015, 07:28:07 PM
(http://monroenews.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2015/01/05/monroe-6innm8aob4glny99jzu_original_r670x400.jpg?413a5173744e72de6bea970507330f289654d438)

The driver of a pickup truck drove out onto freshly formed ice on Lake Erie off Stony Point Sunday and became stuck when the vehicle partially broke through the surface. The driver of a second pickup apparently went to help when his vehicle partially broke through and also became trapped. Monroe County Sheriff’s Lt. Brian Angerer said no one was injured after the two trucks became stuck about 200 yards off Ave. E in Stony Point. However, since there was no way to safely determine if someone was in distress at the time, the sheriff’s helicopter flew over the scene to make certain no one was in danger.
“Their safety and well-being were priorities,” he said. Lt. Angerer said the unidentified driver rolled onto the frozen lake to assess the ice conditions apparently for fishing when it broke through and got stuck. The second driver headed out to offer assistance when it also broke through. On Monday afternoon both vehicles could be seen in the distance from shore on the frozen surface off Stony Point. Frigid temperatures have created ice on Lake Erie but conditions are not even good enough to walk on, said Jim Longnecker, a Michigan Department of Natural Resources ranger based at Sterling State Park.“I can see ice but there’s no way I’d venture out there,” Mr. Longnecker said. “It’s far from safe.” Mr. Longnecker said ice has formed quickly but there still are weak spots and open water. He said the ice on the lagoons inside the state park isn’t even safe enough. Fishermen have been testing the ice’s strength by tossing stones on the surface. “I wouldn’t walk out there,” he said. It is the responsibility of the trucks’ owners to remove their vehicles, Lt. Angerer said.
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Read more at: http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/06/two-pickup-trucks-stuck-ice-lake/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/06/two-pickup-trucks-stuck-ice-lake/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on January 06, 2015, 08:37:32 PM
So will maritime law be in effect - for the person who tow's them out?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: excelsior on January 06, 2015, 08:46:27 PM


I wonder why they deployed the Raptor and not the hovercraft?

Monroe County's Finest and Their Hovercraft (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5PLQ9-1rlk#)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on January 06, 2015, 08:56:38 PM
Wow.its been cold for what, 2 days and these guys drive on the lake ice!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: livewire on January 06, 2015, 09:29:59 PM
What morons.  The ice couldn't be more than a couple inches thick... If that.

World's full of idiots, that's for sure.

I wonder if the MC Sheriff will send them a bill for the RAPTOR flyby?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: excelsior on January 06, 2015, 10:38:44 PM

The comments on Facebook are about 150 and growing:

https://www.facebook.com/monroenews/posts/10153006541756692 (https://www.facebook.com/monroenews/posts/10153006541756692)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on January 07, 2015, 06:58:00 AM
I hope they had the stupid rider on their insurance policies......

What was the second guy thinking?

My truck is lighter?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on January 07, 2015, 10:19:43 AM

I wonder why they deployed the Raptor and not the hovercraft?

Monroe County's Finest and Their Hovercraft ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5PLQ9-1rlk#[/url])

The "raptor" sounds better?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on January 07, 2015, 12:52:48 PM
What was the second guy thinking?

"Hey, if we get stoned and try it it may just work for us!"
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on January 07, 2015, 01:42:13 PM
I'd like to see a live feed video cam focused on the trucks -
I can almost guarantee there will be some future youtube video that will make people laugh 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: ShorTea on January 07, 2015, 09:06:39 PM
School closings are being posted, lucky lil suckers!!! Everyone else, bundle up, layers & be careful.  >:(  cause we're just SOL !!!


http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/07/school-announcements-jan-8/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/07/school-announcements-jan-8/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: excelsior on January 07, 2015, 09:09:07 PM
The "raptor" sounds better?

Thin ice would seem to be the prime use case for a hovercraft.   I wonder if MCS got the sky crane upgrade package on the raptor?

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQXDp1k0GHCVplkhbSWmnabnHRFrRp4Dmglrzj-d0LSztLvYAMe)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: excelsior on January 07, 2015, 09:16:11 PM

Strange story, but I am glad that everyone survived.

Minivan dragged 16 miles after rear-ending semi trailer amid heavy snow, police say

(http://imgick.mlive.com/home/mlive-media/width620/img/grpress/news_impact/photo/16717517-mmmain.jpeg)

ROSCOMMON COUNTY, MI -- A minivan with four occupants was dragged 16 miles by a semi truck early Wednesday after the driver rear-ended the rig, then called 911 while still moving down the road, police say.

Roscommon sheriff's deputies were dispatched at 1:57 a.m. Jan. 7 after dispatchers received an emergency call from the minivan driver who had reportedly rear-ended a semi truck on I-75 due to poor visibility from heavily falling snow.

The caller's minivan became lodged under the semi trailer and was being pulled down I-75, unbeknownst to the truck driver, police say.
 
Occupants of the mini-van could not see due to snow and were unable to tell dispatchers exactly where they were.

http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2015/01/mini-van_dragged_16_miles_afte.html (http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2015/01/mini-van_dragged_16_miles_afte.html)

_____________________

Minivan crashes into tractor-trailer on I-75, then dragged 16 miles

Read more at: http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/07/minivan-crashes-tractor-trailer-i-75-then-dragged-/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/07/minivan-crashes-tractor-trailer-i-75-then-dragged-/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monique on January 07, 2015, 10:09:43 PM
School closings are being posted, lucky lil suckers!!! Everyone else, bundle up, layers & be careful.  >:(  cause we're just SOL !!!
It's our first official snuggle-on-the-sofa-in-PJs-all-day-while-watching-movies-and-playing-video-games day of 2015!!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monique on January 07, 2015, 10:19:39 PM
What morons.  The ice couldn't be more than a couple inches thick... If that.

World's full of idiots, that's for sure.

Banner day! We agree on TWO things!!!!!!!!  :D :D :D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: ShorTea on January 07, 2015, 10:23:07 PM
It's our first official snuggle-on-the-sofa-in-PJs-all-day-while-watching-movies-and-playing-video-games day of 2015!!

Enjoy it, I remember those days!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on January 09, 2015, 10:10:44 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/french-terror-suspects-phone-contact-115903188.html (http://news.yahoo.com/french-terror-suspects-phone-contact-115903188.html)

The 2 terrorists want to die as martyrs.  Can't let that happen!
After shooting them I'd video tape for their friends some Frenchmen slautering some pigs and dumping blood and pigshit on them.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 09, 2015, 10:21:32 AM
Strange story, but I am glad that everyone survived.

Minivan dragged 16 miles after rear-ending semi trailer amid heavy snow, police say

([url]http://imgick.mlive.com/home/mlive-media/width620/img/grpress/news_impact/photo/16717517-mmmain.jpeg[/url])

ROSCOMMON COUNTY, MI -- A minivan with four occupants was dragged 16 miles by a semi truck early Wednesday after the driver rear-ended the rig, then called 911 while still moving down the road, police say.

Roscommon sheriff's deputies were dispatched at 1:57 a.m. Jan. 7 after dispatchers received an emergency call from the minivan driver who had reportedly rear-ended a semi truck on I-75 due to poor visibility from heavily falling snow.

The caller's minivan became lodged under the semi trailer and was being pulled down I-75, unbeknownst to the truck driver, police say.
 
Occupants of the mini-van could not see due to snow and were unable to tell dispatchers exactly where they were.

[url]http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2015/01/mini-van_dragged_16_miles_afte.html[/url] ([url]http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2015/01/mini-van_dragged_16_miles_afte.html[/url])

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Minivan crashes into tractor-trailer on I-75, then dragged 16 miles

Read more at: [url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/07/minivan-crashes-tractor-trailer-i-75-then-dragged-/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/07/minivan-crashes-tractor-trailer-i-75-then-dragged-/[/url])


This story ended up going at least national... 

slow down on the snow!!!

I remember on a trip back from Florida in the winter we were as far north as central Ohio.  The snow was starting to come down pretty hard and it was getting hard to see.  We ended up right behind a semi from Cadillac MI...   I decided if anyone on the road knew how to drive in the snow it would be him so we pulled in behind him and followed him right into Toledo.  There were plenty of cars and a few semis passing us but we made it home fine and I'd bet the trucker made it to Cadillac just fine too ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 09, 2015, 10:31:53 AM
([url]http://monroenews.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2015/01/05/monroe-6innm8aob4glny99jzu_original_r670x400.jpg?413a5173744e72de6bea970507330f289654d438[/url])

The driver of a pickup truck drove out onto freshly formed ice on Lake Erie off Stony Point Sunday and became stuck when the vehicle partially broke through the surface. The driver of a second pickup apparently went to help when his vehicle partially broke through and also became trapped. Monroe County Sheriff’s Lt. Brian Angerer said no one was injured after the two trucks became stuck about 200 yards off Ave. E in Stony Point. However, since there was no way to safely determine if someone was in distress at the time, the sheriff’s helicopter flew over the scene to make certain no one was in danger.
“Their safety and well-being were priorities,” he said. Lt. Angerer said the unidentified driver rolled onto the frozen lake to assess the ice conditions apparently for fishing when it broke through and got stuck. The second driver headed out to offer assistance when it also broke through. On Monday afternoon both vehicles could be seen in the distance from shore on the frozen surface off Stony Point. Frigid temperatures have created ice on Lake Erie but conditions are not even good enough to walk on, said Jim Longnecker, a Michigan Department of Natural Resources ranger based at Sterling State Park.“I can see ice but there’s no way I’d venture out there,” Mr. Longnecker said. “It’s far from safe.” Mr. Longnecker said ice has formed quickly but there still are weak spots and open water. He said the ice on the lagoons inside the state park isn’t even safe enough. Fishermen have been testing the ice’s strength by tossing stones on the surface. “I wouldn’t walk out there,” he said. It is the responsibility of the trucks’ owners to remove their vehicles, Lt. Angerer said.
([url]http://monroenews.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2015/01/06/Screenshot_2015-01-06-13-00-18_t670.png?b3f6a5d7692ccc373d56e40cf708e3fa67d9af9d[/url])
Read more at: [url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/06/two-pickup-trucks-stuck-ice-lake/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/06/two-pickup-trucks-stuck-ice-lake/[/url])


In my opinion this entire situation was way overblown.  From what I can see looking at the photos the trucks or the drivers were never in any danger at any time.  Putting together facebook comments from the MonroeNews page and my personal knowledge of the area they appear to have been out 'mudding' the night before in the 'very shallow' waters of Brest Bay.  They got stuck and the water rolled back into the bay around them...  a few inches of water...  not a few or several feet of water.  The biggest danger anyone involved was ever in was possibly slipping on the ice...   which could happen on their sidewalk at home!

I can't tell exactly where they were from the news photos because they were using extreme telephoto lenses and the homes in the distance are very distorted.  My best guess is one of the two locations below.  you can see how shallow the water is in that area. 

Unfortunately (in this case) someone looked out and saw the trucks and put the recorded chain of events into action.  If everyone would have left them alone they would have probably had their trucks out and back on the road again without all the attention (and probably sooner than they did) ;) ;) ;)

http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=41.94177,-83.28287&z=14&t=H&marker0=41.94118%2C-83.27997%2Cunnamed&marker1=41.93943%2C-83.27495%2Cunnamed (http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=41.94177,-83.28287&z=14&t=H&marker0=41.94118%2C-83.27997%2Cunnamed&marker1=41.93943%2C-83.27495%2Cunnamed)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on January 09, 2015, 11:13:11 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/09/i-75-south-closed-after-tanker-truck-overturns/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/09/i-75-south-closed-after-tanker-truck-overturns/)

Idiots passing and changing lanes most likely! - I ran into that last night when the roads weren't even this clear.

And look at the North bound side... 
GAWKER DELAY   
  8*

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Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 09, 2015, 11:14:34 AM
LaSalle just called for another MCA unit...

priority 3 so not sure what is going on with that :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 09, 2015, 11:26:12 AM
According to 13ABC it's a tanker of chocolate!!!

http://www.13abc.com/story/27801930/chocolate-tanker-causes-highway-back-up (http://www.13abc.com/story/27801930/chocolate-tanker-causes-highway-back-up)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 09, 2015, 11:35:23 AM
[url]http://news.yahoo.com/french-terror-suspects-phone-contact-115903188.html[/url] ([url]http://news.yahoo.com/french-terror-suspects-phone-contact-115903188.html[/url])

The 2 terrorists want to die as martyrs.  Can't let that happen!
After shooting them I'd video tape for their friends some Frenchmen slautering some pigs and dumping blood and pigshit on them.


ABC says it appears the standoff may have ended although no factual info.  It's still night in France so may take a long time to sort things out.  There were two explosions but it isn't clear who detonated what!

And just now they're reporting all 3 gunmen are dead!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 09, 2015, 12:00:01 PM
Hostages all freed...

up to 7 more police injured in the release efforts.

There is still a woman gunman (that doesn't sound correct) is still on the loose...

I wouldn't take any of this is fact yet...  there are lots of different stories being reported!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on January 09, 2015, 12:06:00 PM
LaSalle just called for another MCA unit...

priority 3 so not sure what is going on with that :-\ :-\ :-\
Someone got their "ticket"...  ?

Most likely the longer people had to sit around and wait - they started feeling the stiffness and pains that accompany stopping suddenly.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 09, 2015, 12:18:43 PM
USA today is now reporting four of the French hostages were killed!  Saw it on Twitter so no link to post!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 09, 2015, 12:49:55 PM
Waze is showing traffic on southbound 75 backed up to Front street exit...  average speed from there to S. Otter Creek is 2mph.  13ABC just reported that they are letting traffic by on the shoulder now and that a crane has been brought in to lift the tanker of chocolate...   I wonder if they're giving out any samples?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 09, 2015, 02:12:55 PM
US 23 north and south is now closed just north of Milan due to some nasty snow squalls...   they're kind of following along I-94 and heading east.  There was a 90 vehicle pileup on 94 over by Kalamazoo earlier in this same storm.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 09, 2015, 02:20:05 PM
US 23 north and south is now closed just north of Milan due to some nasty snow squalls...   they're kind of following along I-94 and heading east.  There was a 90 vehicle pileup on 94 over by Kalamazoo earlier in this same storm.


That crash count is up to 150 now with one fatality!

http://woodtv.com/2015/01/09/i-94-closed-in-both-directions-near-galesburg/ (http://woodtv.com/2015/01/09/i-94-closed-in-both-directions-near-galesburg/)

My wife just drove from the Wayne county line to Monroe with no problem on the freeway.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Skittelroo on January 09, 2015, 04:10:30 PM
US 23 north and south is now closed just north of Milan due to some nasty snow squalls...   they're kind of following along I-94 and heading east.  There was a 90 vehicle pileup on 94 over by Kalamazoo earlier in this same storm.


Thanks, BRD.   Now I know hubs will be late getting home.   Southbound-23 at Milan (Willis to Plank Rds.) will be closed for hours for investigation.   One fatality

http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2015/01/massive_us_23_pileup_2_in_crit.html#incart_related_stories (http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2015/01/massive_us_23_pileup_2_in_crit.html#incart_related_stories)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Skittelroo on January 09, 2015, 04:19:38 PM


Slideshow of pics for accident in Milan area
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/27803387/us-23-closed-near-milan-after-massive-pileup (http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/27803387/us-23-closed-near-milan-after-massive-pileup)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on January 09, 2015, 04:21:19 PM
USA today is now reporting four of the French hostages were killed!  Saw it on Twitter so no link to post!
The terror war on Western Countries is alive - Al Quida is taking credit for this attack.
To bad our war on terror is over...  8*
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Mayonnaise on January 09, 2015, 04:41:47 PM
That crash count is up to 150 now with one fatality!

[url]http://woodtv.com/2015/01/09/i-94-closed-in-both-directions-near-galesburg/[/url] ([url]http://woodtv.com/2015/01/09/i-94-closed-in-both-directions-near-galesburg/[/url])

My wife just drove from the Wayne county line to Monroe with no problem on the freeway.

I know that area very well. That is around the exit where I had to get off to take my son back to school this past Sunday. I drove back to mostly white out conditions. It didn't really let up until I finally got on 23. I'm hoping when I have to go back at the end of the month, the weather will be a little better.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 09, 2015, 04:48:35 PM
I know that area very well. That is around the exit where I had to get off to take my son back to school this past Sunday. I drove back to mostly white out conditions. It didn't really let up until I finally got on 23. I'm hoping when I have to go back at the end of the month, the weather will be a little better.

One of the trucks was carrying fireworks...   put on quite a show it sounds like!!!

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on January 09, 2015, 05:28:48 PM
Talking about school.. My daughter flying into Chicago any minute and will be driving back to Michigan tonight..  Went to Phoenix with daug and friend from chicago in friends car.  I thiink I'd a stayed in Phoenix a few more days
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 09, 2015, 05:37:38 PM
Talking about school.. My daughter flying into Chicago any minute and will be driving back to Michigan tonight..  Went to Phoenix with daug and friend from chicago in friends car.  I thiink I'd a stayed in Phoenix a few more days


94 won't be open until after midnight!!!

http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2015/01/i-94_expected_to_re-open_at_mi.html#incart_river (http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2015/01/i-94_expected_to_re-open_at_mi.html#incart_river)



Survival Flight couldn't fly to the crash on 23:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLiRtXsoTm8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLiRtXsoTm8)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on January 09, 2015, 06:37:34 PM
Ok. Turnpike all the way. to Toledo
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Mayonnaise on January 09, 2015, 08:10:12 PM
Another news report with video of the fireworks on the I-94 crash.
http://fox17online.com/2015/01/09/video-truck-carrying-fireworks-explodes-near-i-94-hazmat-situation/ (http://fox17online.com/2015/01/09/video-truck-carrying-fireworks-explodes-near-i-94-hazmat-situation/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 10, 2015, 06:17:04 AM
Ok. Turnpike all the way. to Toledo

Hope she got home safely and timely ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 10, 2015, 06:18:52 AM
A home invasion with a shooting on the 'west side' last night...

Related to the 'heroin' issues...   probably a pretty good chance!

I just saw it reported on the 13ABC morning news so checked Twitter and it was there from last night!

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/09/man-injured-monroe-shooting/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/09/man-injured-monroe-shooting/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 10, 2015, 06:33:39 AM

Slideshow of pics for accident in Milan area
[url]http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/27803387/us-23-closed-near-milan-after-massive-pileup[/url] ([url]http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/27803387/us-23-closed-near-milan-after-massive-pileup[/url])


Video and article from WDIV...

looks like it was from their 11pm news last night so may have updated info:

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/crash-closes-sb-us23-at-carpenter-road/30616738 (http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/crash-closes-sb-us23-at-carpenter-road/30616738)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on January 10, 2015, 08:50:29 AM
Once she cleared South Bend area the TP cleared up. Glad she had one of my 4WD vehicles instead of her muscle car
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on January 10, 2015, 08:53:49 AM
A home invasion with a shooting on the 'west side' last night...

Related to the 'heroin' issues...   probably a pretty good chance!

I just saw it reported on the 13ABC morning news so checked Twitter and it was there from last night!

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/09/man-injured-monroe-shooting/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/09/man-injured-monroe-shooting/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter[/url])

That's exactly my first thoughts -   and the very neighborhood in another discussion that the police need to "secure" from the druggies...

Once she cleared South Bend area the TP cleared up. Glad she had one of my 4WD vehicles instead of her muscle car

My Daughter was getting off 23 at the Milan exit right as the Squall hit the area...  Lucky!   She called and wanted to know If we were getting the snow here, and later learned how close she was to the accidents.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on January 10, 2015, 09:00:36 AM
geesus,  Is Monroe's hospital really that bad?

The victim was taken to St. Vincent Mercy Medical Center in Toledo;

Read more at: http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/09/man-injured-monroe-shooting/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/09/man-injured-monroe-shooting/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on January 10, 2015, 09:01:30 AM
That's exactly my first thoughts -   and the very neighborhood in another discussion that the police need to "secure" from the druggies...

But if the CITY police concentrate on fires then how can they be expected to secure an area from druggies?   ;D

Or is it the responsibility of that phantom LE agency comprised of City, County, and State that take 3 years to build a case to bring charges against a heroine dealer (but still have time to dumpster dive for 2 pot plants) to clean up the CITY where it appears the problem is rampant in?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on January 10, 2015, 09:13:46 AM
geesus,  Is Monroe's hospital really that bad?

The victim was taken to St. Vincent Mercy Medical Center in Toledo;

Read more at: [url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/09/man-injured-monroe-shooting/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/09/man-injured-monroe-shooting/[/url])


This is not a case of the local hospital being bad  - it just doesn't handle major trauma like the larger university type hospitals - and would likely just stabilize and send the patient there anyway

Trauma (gun shot wounds) needs specialty doctors that come at a Level 1 Trauma Center...   
There are several hospitals that meet that criteria - and it was appropriate to take them directly if they were stable at the time.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on January 10, 2015, 09:28:32 AM
But if the CITY police concentrate on fires then how can they be expected to secure an area from druggies?   ;D

Or is it the responsibility of that phantom LE agency comprised of City, County, and State that take 3 years to build a case to bring charges against a heroine dealer (but still have time to dumpster dive for 2 pot plants) to clean up the CITY where it appears the problem is rampant in?

To be fair - the Dumpster divers were County Sheriff's and we know that the City/County don't like to share LE efforts ....  just firefighting.

I'm betting Luke Davis could find the Heroin if you told him it would bring cash rewards... he could be a paid consultant for the City police  ;D

Mothers from Belleville are finding it - but highly trained officers can't?
May be why they were all trying to change jobs...
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Tiny on January 11, 2015, 10:52:53 PM
I heard today that a local store caught a shop lifter and when they checked his bags he had heroin, needles, grass and a list of his Monroe suppliers in there. That should help out local LE.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on January 11, 2015, 11:34:55 PM
I heard today that a local store caught a shop lifter and when they checked his bags he had heroin, needles, grass and a list of his Monroe suppliers in there. That should help out local LE.
Yep they will chase the marijuana leads...  More $$ there...

Heroin users/abusers are generally poor  - thus the increase in petty crimes, as they don't need a lot of cash to get it.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on January 12, 2015, 08:03:57 AM
So the solution is to make more successful people use heroin - so the cops will go after their assets?
Title: Official: Driver behavior, speed to blame for freeway pileup
Post by: BigRedDog on January 13, 2015, 10:05:31 AM
Who would have ever thought speed and driver behavior could cause a crash :o :o :o

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/13/official-driver-behavior-speed-blame-freeway-pileu/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/13/official-driver-behavior-speed-blame-freeway-pileu/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on January 13, 2015, 10:35:03 AM
Interesting that no one carried the torch from all the years we did this in Monroe... 
Used to be kinda fun training behind the west side station, as you learned about Ice rescue techniques, tools and equipment...   

I do know there were times that we had to stop from the blinding light reflected off of someones wine bottle tree   ;D

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/13/frenchtown-host-training-surface-ice-rescues/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/13/frenchtown-host-training-surface-ice-rescues/)
Title: Re: Official: Driver behavior, speed to blame for freeway pileup
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 13, 2015, 02:05:10 PM
Who would have ever thought speed and driver behavior could cause a crash :o :o :o

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/13/official-driver-behavior-speed-blame-freeway-pileu/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/13/official-driver-behavior-speed-blame-freeway-pileu/[/url])


Not at all suprising in as much as we live in a society where everyone is in a hurry to get nowhere, has no patience with anyone else and flys off the handle at the least provication....  (sounds like this forum don't it?)......
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Mayonnaise on January 13, 2015, 03:12:05 PM
Who would have ever thought speed and driver behavior could cause a crash :o :o :o

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/13/official-driver-behavior-speed-blame-freeway-pileu/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/13/official-driver-behavior-speed-blame-freeway-pileu/[/url])

You know... You would think that with today's technology... There would be a tire developed that would keep it's grip no matter the weather conditions. Then I remember that thing about Job Security... Probably has happened but was shelved.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 13, 2015, 04:45:22 PM
You know... You would think that with today's technology... There would be a tire developed that would keep it's grip no matter the weather conditions. Then I remember that thing about Job Security... Probably has happened but was shelved.

We had a tire back in the late 60s that went a long way toward what you're suggesting Mayonnaise...

winter tires with steel studs in them...   

the biggest problem was they literally cut trenches in the high use roads and were eventually outlawed!!!

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on January 13, 2015, 05:52:00 PM

I do know there were times that we had to stop from the blinding light reflected off of someones wine bottle tree   ;D


I'm not certain what happened to that uglyassthing, but sure glad it disappeared on a very dark night before snow tracks could be traced.

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Mayonnaise on January 13, 2015, 07:11:08 PM
We had a tire back in the late 60s that went a long way toward what you're suggesting Mayonnaise...

winter tires with steel studs in them...   

the biggest problem was they literally cut trenches in the high use roads and were eventually outlawed!!!


I remember them well. I remember being outside with my uncles using a screwdriver to remove the studs. Hmmm now that I think about it. I think that was my first hand held game. ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on January 13, 2015, 08:31:38 PM
You have to wonder how those studded tires were ever approved.  Just on the surface any idiot could tell you they would chew up the roadway
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Mayonnaise on January 13, 2015, 09:16:58 PM
Just like the people who use chains on their tires and "forget" to take them off. ;)
I remember seeing that a few time's in Monroe growing up.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on January 14, 2015, 07:28:38 AM
I was out west in Seattle a few years ago, and got a 4x4 pickup truck as a rental car.  I couldn't believe what was parked in the spot when I got there.  I almost started laughing.

We got done with the job done way early - and had a day to kill - so we decided to drive over to Mt Rainier and tool around - why not - we have a 4x4 pickup truck, might as well use it?

We drove into the park.  At a check point they made us turn around because we didn't have chains on.  No chains - no entry.  A 4x4 Pickup was not sufficient to explore their great white north.

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 14, 2015, 09:00:39 AM
You have to wonder how those studded tires were ever approved.  Just on the surface any idiot could tell you they would chew up the roadway

I graduated from high school at 17 and worked that summer at the local Goodyear tire store.  I remember seeing the stock of winter tires up in the racks...  some already had studs in them and some didn't...   but even the ones that didn't have studs had the holes molded in for them.  I didn't think much of it until I came home from school and stopped by the tire store the next day hoping they 'might' need some help...  they were in the process of 'studding' tires so I spent most of my time off school doing that! 

At that age I wasn't much into any street rules except the speed limit and I might have even violated that a few times ;D ;D ;D 

I know there were only certain months you could have them on your vehicle so we would take them off in the spring and store them for the customer then re-install them in the fall.  I know Ontario had something to do with the law because even after they were prohibited in Michigan you would occasionally 'hear' (very distinct noise) one on the road and that vehicle would almost always have a Canadian license plate on it. 
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 14, 2015, 09:13:10 AM
This is how we'd have to 'stud' the tires if they didn't come from the factory with the studs in them (I have no idea how they got them in at the factory)!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC6Kp-1gtc0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC6Kp-1gtc0#)


And here's a guy getting a ticket for studs in his tires out in Washington state. The roads look like they could be nasty if they were snow covered!  I guess he's lucky he didn't get a ticket for the big crack in his windshield too ;) ;) ;)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmwPYgiCGJI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmwPYgiCGJI#)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 14, 2015, 09:47:00 AM
Seems to me that Monroe would have been the perfect location for this project...

we have a lot of vehicles on the road already without a driver in them :o :o :o

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/14/michigan-driverless-vehicle-test-site-be-operation/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/14/michigan-driverless-vehicle-test-site-be-operation/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on January 14, 2015, 02:28:34 PM
I wonder if it would hit one of those series of islands out by the skating rink?   ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on January 14, 2015, 06:21:34 PM
I wonder if it would hit one of those series of islands out by the skating rink?   ;D
I drove by those the other day - It seems for a no cost item, they have a lot of man hours tied up...     
It's a burlap island right now with all kinds of posts and burlap so it's more like going through a tunnel than passing an island...    Silly looking if you ask anyone I'm sure.  8*

I'm thinking if they tried real hard they could probably squeeze a few more plants/tree's shrubs in there as well...    ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on January 14, 2015, 10:49:44 PM
They probably could get some more plants on those islands, but I'm not sure the citizens would support the elimination of another FF to fund it.   ;)

Amazing the things we debate and laugh at in this forum, ain't it?  The thing not worth laughing at is how the elected officials in this town are not hammering on those in charge to clean up this heroine epidemic problem.  I don't care what the root cause of it is, just clean it up.....hell, most would settle for just getting it somewhat under control.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on January 15, 2015, 07:29:03 AM
They probably could get some more plants on those islands, but I'm not sure the citizens would support the elimination of another FF to fund it.   ;)

Amazing the things we debate and laugh at in this forum, ain't it?  The thing not worth laughing at is how the elected officials in this town are not hammering on those in charge to clean up this heroine epidemic problem.  I don't care what the root cause of it is, just clean it up.....hell, most would settle for just getting it somewhat under control.
The plants you'd prefer on the islands, would certainly slow down and calm traffic  ;D

Addressing Heroin:
And yet to do that...  it would likely entail something that cities like Ann Arbor, and Grand Rapids - and even Detroit have started to do...
Decriminalize a medically approved, non-addictive, non-violent, drug  (marijuana) for certain amounts and maybe someday start taxing it.

but like many things - that makes too much sense  ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on January 16, 2015, 06:57:02 AM
Don't we already have a legal drug - alcohol?

 8*
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Mayonnaise on January 16, 2015, 07:21:37 AM
I would really like to make a find like this.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jan/16/132-year-old-cowboys-rifle-found-propped-up-against-tree-in-nevada-desert?CMP=fb_gu (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jan/16/132-year-old-cowboys-rifle-found-propped-up-against-tree-in-nevada-desert?CMP=fb_gu)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 16, 2015, 08:21:01 AM
I would really like to make a find like this.
[url]http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jan/16/132-year-old-cowboys-rifle-found-propped-up-against-tree-in-nevada-desert?CMP=fb_gu[/url] ([url]http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jan/16/132-year-old-cowboys-rifle-found-propped-up-against-tree-in-nevada-desert?CMP=fb_gu[/url])


There has to be a real interesting 'story' behind that rifle (apparently) sitting there for all these years!!!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 16, 2015, 08:23:26 AM
Fifty four truck batteries...

they didn't take those in a Ford Ranger :o :o :o

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/16/semi-truck-batteries-stolen-monroe-business/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/16/semi-truck-batteries-stolen-monroe-business/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 16, 2015, 08:31:11 AM
Article on the Deb Shop at the mall closing:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/15/deb-shops-mall-monroe-close/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/15/deb-shops-mall-monroe-close/)

This is my favorite quote from the article...   it's not like the mall's leasing agents haven't been looking for tenants 'prior' to this closing ;) ;) ;)


Quote
Mr. Bell said Cafaro was aware of Deb Shops’ financial trouble for a year, and since the company announced it was going out of business last week, the mall’s leasing agents have been looking for other retailers to fill the space.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 16, 2015, 12:29:34 PM
Fifty four truck batteries...

they didn't take those in a Ford Ranger :o :o :o

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/16/semi-truck-batteries-stolen-monroe-business/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/16/semi-truck-batteries-stolen-monroe-business/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter[/url])


............my employer.  The Group 31's weigh about 60 pounds each.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on January 16, 2015, 04:58:05 PM
Don't we already have a legal drug - alcohol?

 8*
I said a non-violent, medically approved...   
Alcohol tends to raise up the bravado - and some get stupid,
and I'm doubtful of the medicinal purposes...  (it just has/had a better lobby)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on January 16, 2015, 05:50:39 PM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/16/monroe-detectives-seek-credit-card-thief/?news (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/16/monroe-detectives-seek-credit-card-thief/?news)

Who leaves credit cards in their vehicle?   

It appears this is the US 23 bandit... up and down the expressway he goes.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: blue2 on January 16, 2015, 06:32:23 PM
People that are stupid!
I have a couple of $25 Outback cards because I'd always leave them at home when I go.  But they aren't laying on the seat or dash.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on January 16, 2015, 07:47:31 PM
I said a non-violent, medically approved...   
Alcohol tends to raise up the bravado - and some get stupid,
and I'm doubtful of the medicinal purposes...  (it just has/had a better lobby)

No medicinal purposes?

Grandpa and Grandma would beg to differ with you!

 ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 18, 2015, 08:21:51 AM
Sounds like the London 'locals' aren't too thrilled with their 'new' road...   

seems like that is the stretch that got all the 'recycled' road bed from 'bump bump M-151'...

maybe it was to be expected :o :o :o

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/17/petition-urges-upgrading-potholed-plank-rd/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/17/petition-urges-upgrading-potholed-plank-rd/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 18, 2015, 11:20:21 AM
Just being dispatched...

People and a 4 wheeler out on the ice about a mile offshore from Brest Bay Marina...

appears the ice is breaking or did break and people are in the water!!!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on January 18, 2015, 11:29:07 AM
Ohshit......please keep me updated BRD.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 18, 2015, 11:32:20 AM
Sounds like a total of 8 people...

2 are away from the group and are walking towards shore...

the others (6 or 7) are on an ice floe that has broken off and is drifting out into open water at this point...

Sounds like the group must have ventured right up near the edge of ice!!!

Maybe that's where the best 'fishing' is :o :o :o
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 18, 2015, 11:52:51 AM
One of the fire departments is launching a very small boat (10 feet) from the end of Stoney Pointe...

The Coast Guard has a helicopter enroute...  trying to get an ETA right now.  Sometimes they have to respond from either Traverse City or Cleveland...

The Toledo Coast Guard is sending a crew but via road...   no boat!!!

The FD is in phone contact with the group on the ice floe and they state they are all 'fine' at this point!

The Coast Guard doesn't know yet when they'll even be able to launch a helicopter...   and still didn't hear where it would be responding from when it does launch!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 18, 2015, 12:01:02 PM
The gap between the ice floe and the main ice is now about 12 feet...

I thought I heard a mention of the Raptor...
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on January 18, 2015, 12:03:14 PM
Appreciate the updates......looks to be under control.



Sounds like the group must have ventured right up near the edge of ice!!!

Maybe that's where the best 'fishing' is :o :o :o

......and where the stoners and idiots hang out!   ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 18, 2015, 12:06:13 PM
Sounds like the Raptor is flying overhead to direct the rescue effort. 

Interesting that Frenchtown either soon will be or just held a training exercise in 'ice rescue'..

This has to be the worst scenario...   open water combined with ice!!!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on January 18, 2015, 12:19:41 PM
Break out the hovercraft!

 ;D
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 18, 2015, 12:21:10 PM
Sounds like the 'folding boat' and the rescue crew carrying it are close to the gap in the ice and they're preparing to launch the boat at the narrow point in the gap!

Still haven't heard anything more on the Coast Guard.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 18, 2015, 12:23:55 PM
The Raptor is reporting that one person has been transported back to the 'safe' side of the break!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 18, 2015, 12:25:08 PM
And now another...

sounds like it's going pretty quick now!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 18, 2015, 12:27:42 PM
Everyone is back to solid ice and the Raptor is leaving!

Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Monroe Native on January 18, 2015, 12:28:44 PM
Are they drilling a new hole at the edge of the "solid" ice?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on January 18, 2015, 02:28:30 PM
I remember seeing the rescue cost charged by the County or the Coast Guard, one of the two.  Wonder how much this will set them back?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on January 19, 2015, 12:09:50 AM
Gee you mean the warm weather doesn't create thicker ice?

I guess ice road truckers and stupid fisherpeople have lots in common!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 19, 2015, 06:46:38 AM

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article:  http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/18/two-men-stranded-ice-flow-near-newport/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/18/two-men-stranded-ice-flow-near-newport/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on January 19, 2015, 11:58:24 AM
The city used to be able to put a crew on the rubber raft, for Ice/water rescue... but it takes a lot of manpower with crew, ropes, and communications to ensure safety of the rescuers as well.   
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 19, 2015, 01:14:21 PM
Here's a video of the rescue operation yesterday the MonroeNews just posted on their website.  It looks like it's been added to the link I posted earlier to the photo above.  Appears it was recorded by the Raptor which was circling during the rescue.  I watched it once on my phone and didn't ever see the 4 wheeler the guys were riding but I'll watch again...  maybe blow it up on the bigscreen TV where I can really see some detail.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxtq7Z3nztM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxtq7Z3nztM#)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Mayonnaise on January 19, 2015, 01:22:41 PM
I didn't see the 4 wheeler either. I think I might know a few people who might be scuba diving soon. At least in the next 30 days. ;)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 19, 2015, 03:25:45 PM
There was some kind of  fire at the Burger King on Newport Rd. at 75 this afternoon...

sounded like the fire may have been out before the FD even got there or they put it out quickly...

they did have to request an ambulance for someone that had been in the building and had inhaled some of the smoke  :-\ :-\ :-\  Didn't sound like they were too bad off as the request for the ambulance was a code 3 response!



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Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 19, 2015, 03:33:56 PM
Not sure if this is related to the 'heroin' crimes or if these guys are just a slightly higher class of crook...

they're 'rolling their own' it sounds like!!!

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/19/counterfeit-money-used-monroe-walmart/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/19/counterfeit-money-used-monroe-walmart/)

At least the clerk was sharp enough not to accept their $3 bills ;D ;D ;D

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Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 19, 2015, 03:47:21 PM
I didn't catch for sure which unit just requested an 'arson' investigator be sent to their scene but I believe Berlin (Newport station) is the only department out on a fire right now!

Curious if they really mean 'arson' or just an 'origin and cause' investigator :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 19, 2015, 04:25:11 PM
The city used to be able to put a crew on the rubber raft, for Ice/water rescue... but it takes a lot of manpower with crew, ropes, and communications to ensure safety of the rescuers as well.


I remember training with the 'Gumby' suits many years ago.  For those not familiar with them I believe Gumby is a brand name.  I see in the photo that it looks like three of the rescuers have on Gumby suits and the 4th rescuer has on some other type of suit. 

They're an insulated suit to protect from the cold water temperatures plus the material is slightly buoyant on it's own plus there is an air bladder inside that you can control by either blowing air in or letting it out!
I'm guessing that 4th suit is similar.  Maybe that person bought their own or maybe the department just has various brands.

I believe they were originally developed for crews onboard ships...   maybe even here in the Great Lakes on the freighters.  The first one I ever encountered was a friend's that worked on a tugboat up in the Lake St. Clair and the Detroit River.

Here are some 'Gumby Suit' vids:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI0h_PgIGog (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI0h_PgIGog#)


These gals are a little 'goofy' but fun to watch anyway ;D ;D ;D
 www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve7MZhZLyXw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve7MZhZLyXw#)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on January 19, 2015, 04:33:38 PM
I didn't see the 4 wheeler either. I think I might know a few people who might be scuba diving soon. At least in the next 30 days. ;)

Is the local term for people like this called Dickweeds?
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 20, 2015, 08:36:12 AM
If you're heading southbound on 75 beyond Ohio you may want to add some extra time...

a bridge collapsed right in downtown Cincinnati last night!

 http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2015/01/20/hopple-bridge-collapse-i-75-cincinnati-traffic/22035351/ (http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2015/01/20/hopple-bridge-collapse-i-75-cincinnati-traffic/22035351/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 21, 2015, 08:30:02 AM
News:  it snowed...

results:  drivers all over the county have forgotten that snow makes the roads slippery.  Rescue calls going on all over the county!!! 

There's a semi jackknifed on southbound 75 by the weigh station...   sounds like it has fuel leaking!
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 21, 2015, 08:57:11 AM
If you're heading southbound on 75 beyond Ohio you may want to add some extra time...

a bridge collapsed right in downtown Cincinnati last night!

 [url]http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2015/01/20/hopple-bridge-collapse-i-75-cincinnati-traffic/22035351/[/url] ([url]http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2015/01/20/hopple-bridge-collapse-i-75-cincinnati-traffic/22035351/[/url])


The construction company got the mess cleaned up and 75 is open in the area again.  The truck driver is from Howell MI.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on January 21, 2015, 10:19:57 AM
News:  it snowed...

results:  drivers all over the county have forgotten that snow makes the roads slippery.  Rescue calls going on all over the county!!! 

There's a semi jackknifed on southbound 75 by the weigh station...   sounds like it has fuel leaking!

Here's one for the ice fishemen...

News Flash:   Ice needs cold weather

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/21/local-officials-warn-unsafe-ice-conditions-lake-er/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/21/local-officials-warn-unsafe-ice-conditions-lake-er/)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on January 23, 2015, 11:20:29 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/23/traffic-alert-southbound-telegraph-stewart-closed-/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/23/traffic-alert-southbound-telegraph-stewart-closed-/)

Could have posted this as good news...   I must have just missed this  ;D

Used to be one of the most dangerous intersection in the county - not sure if they even keep those stats anymore - since they are so busy with shoplifters and dodging drug dealers...
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: BigRedDog on January 23, 2015, 01:53:01 PM
Is Owosso the closest they could find a Ford dealer?

Which crashed vehicle was this replacing?

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/23/monroe-city-council-approves-cop-car-purchase/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/23/monroe-city-council-approves-cop-car-purchase/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: Professor H on January 23, 2015, 02:59:26 PM
Is Owosso the closest they could find a Ford dealer?

Which crashed vehicle was this replacing?

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/23/monroe-city-council-approves-cop-car-purchase/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/23/monroe-city-council-approves-cop-car-purchase/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter[/url])


Not bad crash an old patrol car and upgrade to a SUV...   

100k?   Why don't they drive them until they start having mechanical problems that can't be fixed...   100k is nothing in todays engines - but I guess it's only money they took from the fire budget  :(
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: The Fuzz on January 23, 2015, 06:34:00 PM
I never thought of this before, but I wonder what the annual insurance rate is on a squad car?  I bet that is a hefty sum.
Title: Re: In the News This Morning
Post by: livewire on January 24, 2015, 09:37:18 AM
Wait just a minute here...

All I hear about is skyrocketing tuition costs, kids that can't pay their student loans, wah, wah, wah.
Now I see 120 U of M students:

1.  Had no problem coming up with the cash to go to a ski resort

2.  Had no problem coming up with the cash to party all weekend long

3.  Destroyed two ski resort hotels in the process, causing approximately $100,000 in damages


Am I supposed to feel sorry for these criminals?

What the hell was going through their minds when they were destroying the furniture and hallways of these hotels?

And yeah, Obama wants to forgive the student loans for azzholes like these, and have the rest of us working stiffs pay for it.

They go to a liberal college.

I'll bet $1,000 that their parents are liberals as well.

Unfuckingbelievable.




Frat Party that Caused $75,000 of Damage at a Ski Resort

Students from the University of Michigan, including members from six fraternities and sororities, are accused of causing thousands of dollars' worth of damages during a weekend stay at two northern Michigan ski resorts.

The students, which included members of the Sigma Alpha Mu, Pi Kappa Alp