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Re: Voter fraud - does it happen or just another conspiracy theory
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2014, 09:35:27 PM »

Yes it does happen and at the local county political parties as well. Case in point the 2008 Monroe County Republican Party Convention.

The Richardville clan rigged he election by procedure. It happens at the state level and national levels also. He who has the money and can lie the best makes the rules, the Richardville supporting clan were experts but the old lady's are getting older. It's gonna be harder for them to protect their pretty boy. Their day will come to roost.
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Re: Voter fraud - does it happen or just another conspiracy theory
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2014, 10:10:54 AM »

It appears that eight months is enough time for someone convicted of four counts of voter fraud in Ohio. 
She was a poll worker. Which means not one of the right-wing/conservative/republican/tea party false efforts to stymie voter fraud would've prevented that incident.
http://www.brennancenter.org/publication/truth-about-voter-fraud

The truth is, it's the republican right that's been stealing the votes.

http://michiganredistricting.org/redistricting-and-gerrymandering/

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/03/opinion/sunday/the-great-gerrymander-of-2012.html?pagewanted=all


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-18/republicans-foil-what-most-u-s-wants-with-gerrymandering.html

Republicans enjoy a 33-seat margin in the U.S. House seated yesterday in the 113th Congress, having endured Democratic successes atop the ticket and over one million more votes cast for Democratic House candidates than Republicans.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/17/1459991/rslc-gerrymandering-house/

Americans didn't intend to elect a Republican majority to the House of Representatives. Thanks to GOP-engineered redistricting, they did.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/11/republicans-gerrymandering-house-representatives-election-chart

At this point you have to either be an unreconstructed Southerner or a Michele Bachmann constituent to not understand that the Republican congressional strategy is to undermine the United States and cause as many people as possible as much pain as they can. House Republicans aren’t even hiding it any longer. That’s because of gerrymandering. Their districts have been drawn so precisely to exclude anyone who hasn’t been brainwashed by Fox, that no matter what normal people think about GOP treachery, the congressmen leading and enabling it can be reelected forever and ever.
http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-liberal/2013/01/gerrymandering-another-anti-democracy-tool-in-the-right-wing-arsenal-2454066.html

Governor Rick Snyder (R) signed the state's legislative redistricting plan
http://ballotpedia.org/Redistricting_in_Michigan

The maps are horrible:
http://www.michigan.gov/documents/cgi/senate10statewide_371479_7.pdf
http://www.michigan.gov/documents/cgi/house10statewide_371473_7.pdf
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Re: Voter fraud - does it happen or just another conspiracy theory
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2014, 12:52:18 AM »

What are the odds of 765 registered voters in North Carolina with the same first names, last names, dates of birth and the final four digits of their Social Security numbers of voters in other states?

State elections officials seek tighter security

http://www.wral.com/state-elections-officials-seek-tighter-security/13533579/

State elections officials said Wednesday that they're investigating hundreds of cases of voters who appear to have voted in two states and several dozen who appear to have voted after their deaths.

State lawmakers last year mandated the State Board of Elections to enter into an "Interstate Crosscheck" – a compact of 28 states that agreed to check their voter registration records against those of other states. The program is run by a Kansas consortium, checking 101 million voter records. The largest states – CA, FL, NY, and TX – are not part of the consortium.

State Board of Elections Executive Director Kim Westbrook Strach delivered the report Wednesday to the legislative Elections Oversight committee.

Strach said North Carolina's check found 765 registered North Carolina voters who appear to match registered voters in other states on their first names, last names, dates of birth and the final four digits of their Social Security numbers. Those voters appear to have voted in North Carolina in 2012 and also voted in another state in 2012.
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Re: Voter fraud - does it happen or just another conspiracy theory
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2014, 06:04:27 AM »

What are the odds of 765 registered voters in North Carolina with the same first names, last names, dates of birth and the final four digits of their Social Security numbers of voters in other states?

State elections officials seek tighter security

http://www.wral.com/state-elections-officials-seek-tighter-security/13533579/

State elections officials said Wednesday that they're investigating hundreds of cases of voters who appear to have voted in two states and several dozen who appear to have voted after their deaths.

State lawmakers last year mandated the State Board of Elections to enter into an "Interstate Crosscheck" – a compact of 28 states that agreed to check their voter registration records against those of other states. The program is run by a Kansas consortium, checking 101 million voter records. The largest states – CA, FL, NY, and TX – are not part of the consortium.

State Board of Elections Executive Director Kim Westbrook Strach delivered the report Wednesday to the legislative Elections Oversight committee.

Strach said North Carolina's check found 765 registered North Carolina voters who appear to match registered voters in other states on their first names, last names, dates of birth and the final four digits of their Social Security numbers. Those voters appear to have voted in North Carolina in 2012 and also voted in another state in 2012.
"Could there have been data error?"
http://www.wral.com/state-elections-officials-seek-tighter-security/13533579/
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Re: Voter fraud - does it happen or just another conspiracy theory
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2014, 11:13:37 PM »

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Re: Voter fraud - does it happen or just another conspiracy theory
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It appears charges against other members of her family may be pending.

Bridgeport State Rep. Christina Ayala arrested on 19 voting fraud charges

HARTFORD >> State Rep. Christina “Tita” Ayala, D-Bridgeport, was arrested Friday on 19 voting fraud charges.

Ayala, 31, is accused of voting in local and state elections in districts she did not live, the Chief State’s Attorney’s Office said in a press release.

The arrest warrant affidavit also alleges Ayala provided fabricated evidence to state Election Enforcement Commission investigators that showed she lived at an address in a district where she voted while actually living outside the district, according to the release.

Ayala, who represents the 128th District, was elected in 2012, replacing her cousin, Andres Ayala, who was elected to the state Senate. She chose to run for reelection earlier this year, despite the voting fraud investigation, but lost a four-way primary in August.

The Elections Enforcement Commission referred the case to the Office of the Chief State’s Attorney in October 2013, recommending criminal charges.

Ayala allegedly voted in various Bridgeport Democratic Town Committee elections, a municipal primary election and a state primary election between 2009 and 2012 in districts inconsistent with the location of her residence, according to the release. She is also accused of voting in the Bridgeport state general election in 2012 in a district where she didn’t live.

According to the Connecticut Post, Ayala’s mother, Santa, was also investigated by the Elections Enforcement Commission. The commission also recommended criminal charges be filed against Santa Ayala, the Democratic registrar of voters in Bridgeport, but none have been filed as of Friday.

Christina Ayala was charged with eight counts of fraudulent voting, 10 counts of primary or enrollment violations and one count of tampering with or fabricating physical evidence.

http://www.nhregister.com/government-and-politics/20140926/bridgeport-state-rep-christina-ayala-arrested-on-19-voting-fraud-charges
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Re: Voter fraud - does it happen or just another conspiracy theory
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2014, 08:47:24 AM »

What about the 2000 prison inmates that all voted (illegally) in Minn when Al Frankin won by a couple of hundred votes.
Do you really think it was the inmates that voted?
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Re: Voter fraud - does it happen or just another conspiracy theory
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2014, 10:26:52 PM »

I haven't read all the posts, but here is my take. I can't recall having read anywhere where Republicans have been
involved in voter fraud. Maybe I missed something. On the other hand I have seen a good number of instances where
Dems have been are involved in voter fraud. In any event, it seems rather telling the Dems are stridently opposed to
anything that might alleviate the problem.
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Re: Voter fraud - does it happen or just another conspiracy theory
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2014, 07:04:51 AM »

I haven't read all the posts, but here is my take. I can't recall having read anywhere where Republicans have been
involved in voter fraud. Maybe I missed something. On the other hand I have seen a good number of instances where
Dems have been are involved in voter fraud. In any event, it seems rather telling the Dems are stridently opposed to
anything that might alleviate the problem.
Employee of company Republican Party hired arrested in voter fraud probe

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/news/employee-of-company-republican-party-hired-arrested-in-voter-fraud-probe/28020746#ixzz3Ez6bV4u4
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Re: Voter fraud - does it happen or just another conspiracy theory
« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2014, 07:11:46 AM »

What about the 2000 prison inmates that all voted (illegally) in Minn when Al Frankin won by a couple of hundred votes.
Do you really think it was the inmates that voted?
Conservative media hype "not accurate" report to suggest Franken's election was "an illegal victory"

Right-wing media -- led by a FoxNews.com article rife with distortions -- have hyped a report by a right-wing group alleging instances of voter fraud in the 2008 Minnesota Senate election to baselessly suggest that Al Franken was "elected by felons" and that his win represents a "Senate seat stolen" and "an illegal victory." But, local officials have reportedly said that the group's data "is not good," and that the report makes claims that are "not accurate" and "likely inflated."
http://mediamatters.org/research/2010/07/13/conservative-media-hype-not-accurate-report-to/185985

http://www.minnpost.com/political-agenda/2010/07/fraud-allegations-franken-coleman-senate-election-spur-investigation-also-o

http://www.minnpost.com/politics-policy/2010/07/franken-coleman-senate-recount-flap-over-felon-votes-shows-gop-playing-fast-

It's sad that you conservative media/fox news followers lack the ability to think critically.
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Re: Voter fraud - does it happen or just another conspiracy theory
« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2014, 10:34:30 AM »

GOP Voter Fraud Hucksters Latest Lie: Felons Made Franken U.S. Senator

http://www.alternet.org/gop-voter-fraud-hucksters-latest-lie-felons-made-franken-us-senator
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Re: Voter fraud - does it happen or just another conspiracy theory
« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2014, 09:57:48 PM »

Mostly, voting is fair.  Some places have problems from both sides, unethical, but not usually illegal.
The issue of electronic voting machines is different.  They are verifiable and proven to be EASILY hacked.  Most don't even record individual votes, just a computer tally that can be manipulated before, during,. or after a vote. with no way to check in any way.
Some places had thousand more votes cast than the amount registered to vote, and all elections are a smaller percentage of all registered voters.

THe kind that we use apparently the machines that tabulate can be hacked, but we have a paper backup to fall back on for verification to assure integrity.

Duck:

"Mostly voting is fair". So no problem. "Some places have problems from "both sides", unethical, but not usually illegal.
Nonsense. Well, Duck I'll tell you what, you offer forth instances of Republican voter fraud and I'll provide you with 10
instances of Dem voter fraud. Want to take the bet?
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Re: Voter fraud - does it happen or just another conspiracy theory
« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2014, 10:08:40 PM »

OH yes, that paper is so reliable.

Hanging chads, dimpled chads, pregnant chads.

Why we KNOW the voter intent of that vote in Broward County!

Of course we only Recount the ultra Liberal Counties......  we NEVER recount the Conservative Counties.

Same crap happened in MN with Al Franken.

Don't tell me how the paper is always there for verification and integrity.  Plenty of elections have been stolen on recounts, and they have tried to steal others.

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Re: Voter fraud - does it happen or just another conspiracy theory
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2014, 04:02:28 AM »

I haven't read all the posts, but here is my take. I can't recall having read anywhere where Republicans have been
involved in voter fraud. Maybe I missed something. On the other hand I have seen a good number of instances where
Dems have been are involved in voter fraud. In any event, it seems rather telling the Dems are stridently opposed to
anything that might alleviate the problem.
Well John, it's clearly a case of not bothering to look.

There is voter fraud, and when there is, most times it's the republicans doing it.

http://wonkette.com/562107/voter-fraud-is-real-and-its-all-republicans
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Re: Voter fraud - does it happen or just another conspiracy theory
« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2014, 07:36:44 AM »

Blinders engaged....

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