Its not an experiment Prof, and you know that very well.
To call it an experiment would be to pretend that there is a different model to go back to, and you know the money just isn't there to man it like it was. I was at the meeting where your Union pissed away the last hope for manpower to be sitting at that station, and as we discussed it was a sad night for the town.
Maybe there are other models we could use. I advocate a City of Monroe Volunteer force. As you stated so eloquently it seems to work in Monroe TWP, and that is what you have in your TWP, even though you don't live in Monroe TWP. We could also explore Paid on Call - like Frenchtown recently did. Either service model would work - but I bet you the union you belong / belonged to would squeal like a stuck pig if either one of them were proposed. But hey - I am all about what is the best service for the citizens, and if they go to volunteer, I will be the first to sign up. Heck, I would even think about paid on call if all the pay was deferred.
There isn't money to go back to a Traditional Fire Department - at least not until all that pension obligations are paid off. Its just too bad that last millage increase had to go to pay for past obligations instead to pay current services rendered?
I mean wouldn't it be nice if the current residents weren't paying for services rendered 20 years ago and today? I bet you we could get better service then!
Hope you didn't find this confrontation like Fuzz is accusing me off, and humorous like I intended it. Frankly I found his little fit to be fairly humorous, because I do find it sad that there isn't manning at that station around the clock. At least ONE guy to drive the truck to the fire at least.
It is something that isn't talked about much, the cone of silence is over it, and when something happens they pretend it is the exception, not the rule.
With that said Larry Merkle runs one heck of a Fire Dept in Monroe Township, does he not?
I hear that the City is hiring Firefighters again - so that's why I call it what it was... a failed experiment.
You almost had a mutiny of cops leaving the program - if they hadn't let the ring leader have a cushy desk job without testing for it...
Check your sources you'll figure it out quick
As far as the pension - it's funded
Just got the retirement system letter
98.2% funded! with an increase of 13.7 million last year.
I doubt many other systems are funded at that level
Your complaint is that the Council gave raises - not figured in the actuarial calculations - and now they have to pay for it.
As far as your knowledge on what other departments have and what works best - I'll leave it at best you really don't know the terminology.
Monroe Twp is paid on call, Frenchtown has both full and paid on call...
The term "Volunteer" is from the past when the government had no interest, but the citizens formed units to provide services... then over time the governments got involved (especially after they learned they were liable).
There may be a few departments that still have volunteers - but with the time involvement of calls and training - the people willing to do it are less and less,
The numbers are down and the age of those left are increasing...
I hate reading about a 60 plus yo firefighter who died after responding to a call... this is not a job for 60 plus year olds!
We really should discuss this sometime in person...
although it may take hours as I enjoy a good debate
and neither of us is lacking in getting in the last word