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Title: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on February 27, 2010, 11:07:54 PM
Anyone know of any businesses that are closing?

I was at the mall today and had lunch at TJ's Pizza. I was talking to the owner and was told that they would be closing in two weeks.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on February 27, 2010, 11:13:44 PM
Anyone know of any businesses that are closing?

I was at the mall today and had lunch at TJ's Pizza. I was talking to the owner and was told that they would be closing in two weeks.

There's just not enough traffic at the mall to warrant three food places. Most everyone just goes to Taco Bell, whose profit margins for producing 30 menu items out of five ingredients (tortilla, meat, sour cream, tomatoes, cheese) have to be out of this world.

The Chinese place I'm pretty sure has to be a front for something. Their food is absurdly terrible.

I miss the place that was in TJ's spot in 2005-2006... they had delicious, greasy calzones for like 5 bucks. Awesome.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on February 27, 2010, 11:18:34 PM
There's just not enough traffic at the mall to warrant three food places. Most everyone just goes to Taco Bell, whose profit margins for producing 30 menu items out of five ingredients (tortilla, meat, sour cream, tomatoes, cheese) have to be out of this world.

The Chinese place I'm pretty sure has to be a front for something. Their food is absurdly terrible.

I miss the place that was in TJ's spot in 2005-2006... they had delicious, greasy calzones for like 5 bucks. Awesome.

I had a Philly Steak & Cheese Calzone. Tasted real good.
Yeah when they redesigned the place, a lot of spaces were taken out. I found out today that the open space in the corner is supposed to be a children's play area.
I was told that they are not making the money to stay.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on February 28, 2010, 07:41:33 AM
Anyone know of any businesses that are closing?

I was at the mall today and had lunch at TJ's Pizza. I was talking to the owner and was told that they would be closing in two weeks.

Only because I am not 100% am I qualifying this..,,,but, Shish Kabob may be closing.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ell on February 28, 2010, 08:42:25 AM
Only because I am not 100% am I qualifying this..,,,but, Shish Kabob may be closing.

That's a shame.  The food was good everytime I ate there.  I doubt that Monroe is up to expanding their dining horizons beyond Chinese, Italian, Mexican, and traditional American fare.  Not to mention many probably think they would be financing jihad by dining there (jmo).  The location probably wasn't the best either.  I am surprised they have lasted as long as they did.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on February 28, 2010, 09:02:13 AM
Been a while since I agreed on something with a Spartan fan  ;), but I agree, ell.  Would have been nice to keep as many ethnic foods as possible in town.....variety is the spice of life (so I hear)!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ell on February 28, 2010, 09:12:55 AM
Been a while since I agreed on something with a Spartan fan  ;), but I agree, ell.  Would have been nice to keep as many ethnic foods as possible in town.....variety is the spice of life (so I hear)!

There ya' go Fuzz.  This should increase your comfort level a bit! LOL  Normally, that avatar is reserved for football Saturdays.  I guess I was just to lazy to change it.

Back on topic though, it really is a shame about places like Shish Kabob.  If the food was bad, that's one thing.  Even if a decent percentage of the Monroe diners had at least tried the place, it would have been viable.  Hopefully they can remain open and become profitable.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Kingsley on February 28, 2010, 10:11:48 AM
Unfortunately Monroe is a town of burgers and fries and go to Wal-Mart to save 10 cents. Most would rather see a business lose money, whether it be by having to ring up $2.00 credit card purchases or by giving away food at prices comparable to Burger King. Most wouldn't know good food or good service. Only what they want for their $5 value meal dining experience. Shish Kabob is excellent food at very good prices. Too bad Monroeites don't see this.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: densme on February 28, 2010, 10:35:45 AM
It is so sad that we keep losing stores in Monroe, I had to actually leave Monroe Yesterday to buy a spool of thread ,how sad is that, I sure hope someone reopens a fabric store soon. Sewing costs are expensive anyway,much less having to drive out of town for thread and fabric if you want black or white thread its not a problem,but any other color you have big problems.Sure wish craft 2000 would open a fabric department.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Original Riv on February 28, 2010, 11:21:22 AM
There ya' go Fuzz.  This should increase your comfort level a bit! LOL  Normally, that avatar is reserved for football Saturdays.  I guess I was just to lazy to change it.

Back on topic though, it really is a shame about places like Shish Kabob.  If the food was bad, that's one thing.  Even if a decent percentage of the Monroe diners had at least tried the place, it would have beed viable.  Hopefully they can remain open and become profitable.


I ate there last night. I spoke to the owner, he says they have no plans on closing.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on February 28, 2010, 11:32:59 AM
Unfortunately Monroe is a town of burgers and fries and go to Wal-Mart to save 10 cents. Most would rather see a business lose money, whether it be by having to ring up $2.00 credit card purchases or by giving away food at prices comparable to Burger King. Most wouldn't know good food or good service. Only what they want for their $5 value meal dining experience. Shish Kabob is excellent food at very good prices. Too bad Monroeites don't see this.

I don't get this comment.  I've been thru Monroe in the evenings and see that the parking lots are pretty full at all the restaurants.   A couple of months ago I went to the Mich B&G and it was packed.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: naomi43 on February 28, 2010, 11:49:05 AM
Yeah Mich Bar&Grill is my favorite place to go (when I can afford it) LOL
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: PXaiver on February 28, 2010, 12:58:30 PM
Yeah Mich Bar&Grill is my favorite place to go (when I can afford it) LOL

Every time I've ate there the food I had was horrible.  That's one of the places I won't go to in Monroe anymore.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on February 28, 2010, 01:10:47 PM

I ate there last night. I spoke to the owner, he says they have no plans on closing.

Good deal....I'm glad there was a change of mind, or I just heard incorrectly.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on February 28, 2010, 01:49:39 PM
Good deal....I'm glad there was a change of mind, or I just heard incorrectly.

In that case we should plan a huge outing there. I always enjoyed the food there. It's different than the traditional "burgers and fries" everywhere else in Monroe.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on February 28, 2010, 01:51:56 PM
The plan is to head there for supper tonight at The Fuzz Household.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Kingsley on February 28, 2010, 02:27:38 PM
I don't get this comment.  I've been thru Monroe in the evenings and see that the parking lots are pretty full at all the restaurants.   A couple of months ago I went to the Mich B&G and it was packed.

What part are you having problems with? Monroe won't support anything out of the ordinary. Middle Eastern cuisine, Indian cuisine, Cuban, etc. Typical of small towns where residents are stuck on traditional American cuisine. Throw in pizza as well.
Glad to hear Shish is not closing. May go there tonight as well.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: PXaiver on February 28, 2010, 02:57:13 PM
Damn, I'm at work and won't get home until around 11 so I guess that's not going to be dinner tonight.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Original Riv on February 28, 2010, 03:37:31 PM


I had heard shish-ka-bob was closing somewhere other than here, which is what prompted me to ask.  They could be, who knows, maybe the guy just doesn't want to announce it.   :-\
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on March 01, 2010, 11:56:06 AM
I'm going there for lunch. Support unique businesses, dammit.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: El Guapo on March 01, 2010, 05:41:35 PM
Support all Monroe businesses!  I've lived in a lot of cities in my life, but I've never lived in a city like Monroe where the citizens seem to hate their city and the businesses in it.  We talk so poorly about our businesses, hospitals, schools, parks, everything.  Yet we gripe when we don't have choices.  So everyone goes to Ann Arbor, Detroit or Toledo.  What do we expect.  Love the place you live and make it a better place!  If more people spend here than more businesses will come.  The competition will make them all better!  When we don't support, the good ones leave and we're left with poorly run stores that are desperate and cut corners.  ----disclaimer...not all of them, this is just a general statement to highlight my point!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: PXaiver on March 01, 2010, 05:54:18 PM
Support all Monroe businesses!  I've lived in a lot of cities in my life, but I've never lived in a city like Monroe where the citizens seem to hate their city and the businesses in it.  We talk so poorly about our businesses, hospitals, schools, parks, everything.  Yet we gripe when we don't have choices.  So everyone goes to Ann Arbor, Detroit or Toledo.  What do we expect.  Love the place you live and make it a better place!  If more people spend here than more businesses will come.  The competition will make them all better!  When we don't support, the good ones leave and we're left with poorly run stores that are desperate and cut corners.  ----disclaimer...not all of them, this is just a general statement to highlight my point!

I agree and with the exception of the occasional lunch at work, I work in Ann Arbor, I spend at Monroe County businesses as much as possible.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Pawson7 on March 01, 2010, 07:24:32 PM
I love the owners of TJ's they are super nice people. Sad to see another business in this town closing. Good luck to them in whatever comes next for them.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Frenchfry on March 01, 2010, 08:05:47 PM
Buy Local Campaign (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLDnKF9CTds#)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SimpleMan on March 01, 2010, 08:58:35 PM
What part are you having problems with? Monroe won't support anything out of the ordinary. Middle Eastern cuisine, Indian cuisine, Cuban, etc. Typical of small towns where residents are stuck on traditional American cuisine. Throw in pizza as well.
Glad to hear Shish is not closing. May go there tonight as well.

I have a solution for you. You desire exotic food. Monroe is is within easy driving distance of either Detroit Metro or Toledo Express airports. You want Cuban food? Book tickets to the Florida Keys. You want authentic Indian or Middle Eaatern cuisine, book the large city of your choice. Monroe isn't big enough, isn't diverse enough, to support your exotic palate.

I will say, for Middle Eaastern cuisine, you don't need to hop on a plane. Dearborn Michigan is only about 45 minutes from Monroe, and if you want Middle Eastern cuisine, that's the place to be.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on March 01, 2010, 11:24:46 PM
Went to Shish today. Delicious food, really.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on March 02, 2010, 07:56:17 PM
Back on topic, I notice Nena's Tacos went under.... :(
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: PXaiver on March 02, 2010, 08:00:53 PM
I didn't even know there was such a place.  Were they good?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: jbs49238 on March 02, 2010, 09:14:50 PM
I didn't even know there was such a place.  Were they good?

By my account...... NO!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on March 03, 2010, 01:11:15 AM
Nobody liked them except for me and the wife, it seems. They had really good traditional tacos.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: PXaiver on March 03, 2010, 07:02:35 AM
Nobody liked them except for me and the wife, it seems. They had really good traditional tacos.

Damn, i would have liked them then.  Being stationed in San Diego I developed a taste for traditional Mexican food.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ktreas on March 03, 2010, 07:35:16 AM
Back on topic, I notice Nena's Tacos went under.... :(


Oh Man, That was my husbands favorite place to get taco's  :(
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: therethere76 on March 03, 2010, 12:12:17 PM
Oh Man, That was my husbands favorite place to get taco's  :(

I tried them a few times, decent food, good traditional tacos but terrible service. The waitress never greeted us when we entered, couldn't smile and barely even said thanks. We also had to go to the register to get our bill. Sorry, but customer service is key.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: T-M-T on March 03, 2010, 12:36:30 PM
Monroe is a very strange market for restaurants.  People flock to Bob Evans and Cracker Barrel and rave about worse-than-mediocre places like Lafiesta.

Fortunately, we are close enough to Toledo, Ann Arbor and Metro Detroit that we have tons of decent choices within an hour’s drive. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on March 03, 2010, 07:08:38 PM
Back on topic, I notice Nena's Tacos went under.... :(

Just drove past there and someone is inside working...

poster in the window says MEXI DELI opening soon !!!                                                   also says HELP WANTED!!!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on March 03, 2010, 07:22:15 PM
I noticed the Mexican Restaurant where Save-a-Lot is didn't last to long.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: cullet on March 03, 2010, 08:06:13 PM
Sorry to see Nena's close, always had good food there although their tacos were a little on the small side.
 
Can't remember the name of the one by Save-a-Lot but their food was good with nice size portions but they just could,t draw the customers I guess.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: PXaiver on March 03, 2010, 08:09:54 PM
How many Mexican joints does Monroe really need?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on March 03, 2010, 08:31:50 PM
I noticed the Mexican Restaurant where Save-a-Lot is didn't last to long.

We went there once. Their menus were disasters in the English language and they didn't have hot sauce. NO HOT SAUCE. The food was bland.

Actually, most Mexican food around here is pretty damn bland. Nena's was the only one I found that comes close to more traditional Mexican fare; flavorful, greasy, and full of fresh veggies.

People seem to enjoy the places that just give them LOTS of food, as opposed to good food. It's a shame.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Kingsley on March 03, 2010, 09:07:25 PM

Actually, most Mexican food around here is pretty damn bland. Nena's was the only one I found that comes close to more traditional Mexican fare; flavorful, greasy, and full of fresh veggies.

Grande Lagos has very good food. It beats all the others hands down. They have authentic dishes that you won't get elsewhere, or the traditional like the rest. If you have not tried it, do so. You won't be disappointed.
As for Nena's...dog food! Actually more like goat food, since if a goat will eat a can then it may be able to stomach what they called food.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: PXaiver on March 03, 2010, 09:15:28 PM
Frankly I'm a big fan of Vaqueros Polla a la diabla.  Not enough heat but tasty nonetheless.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SimpleMan on March 03, 2010, 09:23:29 PM
Frankly I'm a big fan of Vaqueros Polla a la diabla.  Not enough heat but tasty nonetheless.

Ever since you introduced me to that dish, I have been a fervent admirer of it. I order it every time we vistit Vaqueros.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: cullet on March 03, 2010, 09:41:30 PM
Frankly I'm a big fan of Vaqueros Polla a la diabla.  Not enough heat but tasty nonetheless.
Ok Shaggy what is Polla a la diabla?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on March 03, 2010, 11:49:49 PM
Ok Shaggy what is Polla a la diabla?

If I'm not mistaken the literal translation is "chicken of the Devil". I'm reckoning it's supposed to be extremely spicy.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Billy on March 04, 2010, 07:43:25 AM
I have also wondered about the local affection for La Fiesta I think that their food is awful.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: PXaiver on March 04, 2010, 11:12:04 AM
Polla a la diabla is a dish there where they take grilled chicken and put it in a thick and spicy red sauce.  Its served with beans, rice and soft tortillas.  The flavor is excllent and its not too spicy.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Pawson7 on March 04, 2010, 01:32:24 PM
If your willing to take a drive Mario's in Adrian is AWESOME!!! It's one of those hole in the wall type places with WONDERFUL AUTHENTIC Mexican food. We drive out there about once a week for dinner. They make their own chips and salsa daily! They have hot and mild salsa. Check them out on Facebook. Like I said, little bit of a drive for GREAT food.

PS I am super picky about Mexican food. I think the best Mexican food in Monroe has to be Taco Bell.  :D 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: choff4 on March 04, 2010, 02:02:18 PM
Lucios Mexi Deli is one of my favorite.
They have wonderful tamales and so far everything else we  have tried is awesome.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Chicken on March 04, 2010, 03:41:43 PM


I have never understood all the Mexican Restaurants...  Cuban food is great... If I had a chance.. I would have a simple Cuban sandwich shop... With maybe a special or two.. like Ropa Vieja or Arroz Pollo with black beans, plantains and Yucca..  Small with low overhead.. a place to eat but mostly carry out.. Everything is on a steam table.. So rapid service...  I can make a spanish pork roast to die for....  Cuban food is also something you can make very easily in large quanities at low cost, so it is great for catering...  Since it is not spicy but very flavorful.. More people can eat it...

My only problem with Monroe is finding a place to bake th Cuban Bread... you have to have the bread...

I think I need to go get some Boliche at La Lunchera..  Six bucks, I get Boliche which is eye of round roast stuffed with Chorizo...(I get it without chorizo because I don't like the fat)  in a tomato based gravy with Potatoes.. Yellow rice, black beans, Yucca and fried plantains.. it takes about two minutes to get it ready... I never can eat all of it!!! You have your proteins, your veggies from the tomatoes... Lots of fiber from the rice, beans and Yucca... The plantains gives you lots of stuff like bananas.. It is good eating...
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: cullet on March 04, 2010, 08:39:34 PM
I have also wondered about the local affection for La Fiesta I think that their food is awful.
La Fiesta was the only Mexican restaurant in or around Monroe for about forty years so alot of people grew up with them.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on March 04, 2010, 10:21:19 PM
Ok, What did I miss about Ambassador Hall?
I was told there was an auction for stuff inside. I need to read the paper a little more carefully. (That is, if something was in it).
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 04, 2010, 10:26:39 PM
La Fiesta was the only Mexican restaurant in or around Monroe for about forty years so alot of people grew up with them.

....Not exactly correct.  Carls Hideaway has been in the same location (on Lewis near Ida West Road) in downtown Ida for at least forty years.  The food there isn't all that hot either.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 04, 2010, 10:28:33 PM

I have never understood all the Mexican Restaurants...  Cuban food is great... If I had a chance.. I would have a simple Cuban sandwich shop... With maybe a special or two.. like Ropa Vieja or Arroz Pollo with black beans, plantains and Yucca..  Small with low overhead.. a place to eat but mostly carry out.. Everything is on a steam table.. So rapid service...  I can make a spanish pork roast to die for....  Cuban food is also something you can make very easily in large quanities at low cost, so it is great for catering...  Since it is not spicy but very flavorful.. More people can eat it...

My only problem with Monroe is finding a place to bake th Cuban Bread... you have to have the bread...

I think I need to go get some Boliche at La Lunchera..  Six bucks, I get Boliche which is eye of round roast stuffed with Chorizo...(I get it without chorizo because I don't like the fat)  in a tomato based gravy with Potatoes.. Yellow rice, black beans, Yucca and fried plantains.. it takes about two minutes to get it ready... I never can eat all of it!!! You have your proteins, your veggies from the tomatoes... Lots of fiber from the rice, beans and Yucca... The plantains gives you lots of stuff like bananas.. It is good eating...

My opinion of Cubans or their cusine isn't postable here. 8*
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on March 04, 2010, 11:08:04 PM
....Not exactly correct.  Carls Hideaway has been in the same location (on Lewis near Ida West Road) in downtown Ida for at least forty years.  The food there isn't all that hot either.

True, but eating the tacos at Carl's warps me back to my childhood, so I'm very pro-Carl's. :P

Nostalgia ruins everybody's taste buds, it seems
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on March 04, 2010, 11:16:17 PM
Ok, What did I miss about Ambassador Hall?
I was told there was an auction for stuff inside. I need to read the paper a little more carefully. (That is, if something was in it).

I do remember seeing an article in the paper...

don't remember if it was before the auction or not though ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: TheShepherd on March 05, 2010, 08:00:29 AM
Yesterday I noticed all the signage off the Yamaha dealer on Telegraph. Did they close their doors too? It looked like a bare building as I drove by.

I hope my eyes were playing tricks on me.......... We don't need any more closings of anything. :(
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on March 05, 2010, 08:03:28 AM
Is Muffler Man out of business? I went by yesterday. I noticed the building was repainted but no signs.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: TheShepherd on March 05, 2010, 08:05:21 AM
Is Muffler Man out of business? I went by yesterday. I noticed the building was repainted but no signs.


Her's what we have on that, Mayo: http://monroetalks.com/forum/index.php?topic=18075.0 (http://monroetalks.com/forum/index.php?topic=18075.0)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on March 05, 2010, 08:07:58 AM
Her's what we have on that, Mayo: [url]http://monroetalks.com/forum/index.php?topic=18075.0[/url] ([url]http://monroetalks.com/forum/index.php?topic=18075.0[/url])

Thanks Shep. I guess I missed that thread. Must be the lack of warmth on top. LOL!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 05, 2010, 08:19:09 AM
Yesterday I noticed all the signage off the Yamaha dealer on Telegraph. Did they close their doors too? It looked like a bare building as I drove by.

I hope my eyes were playing tricks on me.......... We don't need any more closings of anything. :(

Atomic (formerly Ray's) went tits up early last month.  I heard the owners (who has other locations) just consolidated his inventory to his other stores.  My experience with them was that they were high priced and basically rude, not unlike most powersports dealers.  Not, most.

You have Poupard's place adjacent on the opposite side of Telegraph a bit south.  It's hard to compete with 2 dealers so close.  Granted, they were different lines, but ,except the brands, all the accessories are the same, dealer to dealer.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: TheShepherd on March 05, 2010, 08:23:23 AM
Atomic (formerly Ray's) went tits up early last month.  I heard the owners (who has other locations) just consolidated his inventory to his other stores.  My experience with them was that they were high priced and basically rude, not unlike most powersports dealers.  Not, most.

Thanks Sidecar. I don't pay as much attention to the powersports places as I did when I was younger....... I still want a side by side one of these days though!

The last one of those places I was at was Peterson's Sales and Service. lol
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 05, 2010, 08:34:26 AM
I'm involved in the indusrty as it is, so I'm very aware of the going's on.  The local market or what there is, can't support multiple dealers.  Only the strong and the competitive survive and price point comes down to cents, not dollars.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Chicken on March 05, 2010, 08:40:44 AM
....Not exactly correct.  Carls Hideaway has been in the same location (on Lewis near Ida West Road) in downtown Ida for at least forty years.  The food there isn't all that hot either.

Carl's didn't start serving Mexican until well after the La Fiesta... I would say around 1981 or 82.. then one of the Sons and Daughter in laws.. bought the Bowl R Drome From Frank Lux and started making the food there and having dances upstairs where the ally's used to be... Don't know when that closed it was still open when I left town..
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Chicken on March 05, 2010, 08:43:04 AM
My opinion of Cubans or their cusine isn't postable here. 8*

Too Bad.. I love Cubans.. They are great people.... Of Course I'm not a racist bigot...
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Kingsley on March 05, 2010, 08:52:13 AM
Carl's didn't start serving Mexican until well after the La Fiesta... I would say around 1981 or 82.. then one of the Sons and Daughter in laws.. bought the Bowl R Drome From Frank Lux and started making the food there and having dances upstairs where the ally's used to be... Don't know when that closed it was still open when I left town..

Didn't the Basile family own the restaurant at the Bowl A Drome? For some reason that name seems right. Their food was OK but the place was kinda run down.
Carl's has a cult following, but their food is not that great. Their guacamole tastes like it came out of a can.
I agree with you Chicken, Cuban food is very good, and Cuban sandwiches would be great here. Just think of a deli sandwich cooked in a shirt press. Delicious. Especially those in Miami, which is the last place I had one. You are also correct about the bigots in this town, or should I say from near this town, like in Deerfield. Hard to believe this is a business owner. 8* 8* 8* 8* 8*
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on March 05, 2010, 09:58:09 AM
Didn't the Basile family own the restaurant at the Bowl A Drome? For some reason that name seems right. Their food was OK but the place was kinda run down.
Carl's has a cult following, but their food is not that great. Their guacamole tastes like it came out of a can.
I agree with you Chicken, Cuban food is very good, and Cuban sandwiches would be great here. Just think of a deli sandwich cooked in a shirt press. Delicious. Especially those in Miami, which is the last place I had one. You are also correct about the bigots in this town, or should I say from near this town, like in Deerfield. Hard to believe this is a business owner. 8* 8* 8* 8* 8*
I remember that place real well. The name after the Bowl A Drome was The Alamo. Good Time's and some good memories.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: eriemermaid on March 05, 2010, 10:00:11 AM
And what was the name of that bar on the back side of Midas Muffler?  That was a few years ago . . .
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Kingsley on March 05, 2010, 10:06:29 AM
And what was the name of that bar on the back side of Midas Muffler?  That was a few years ago . . .

I believe it was the Friendly Inn. It was where Rite Aid is now.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on March 05, 2010, 10:40:41 AM
Anyone know what's going on with Allen Chevrolet?
They look like there still open but not a lot on the lot. I know the deal with GM but was wondering. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: eriemermaid on March 05, 2010, 11:29:12 AM
I believe it was the Friendly Inn. It was where Rite Aid is now.

Oh yeah, that was the name.  Thanks Kingsley.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: TheShepherd on March 05, 2010, 11:37:31 AM
I see a "Now open" sign back at the old Muffler Man.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 05, 2010, 01:26:20 PM
Too Bad.. I love Cubans.. They are great people.... Of Course I'm not a racist bigot...

Neither am I.  I'm an equal opportunity hater and I'm sure not a carpet muncher. ;D   Next?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 05, 2010, 01:27:30 PM
I see a "Now open" sign back at the old Muffler Man.

'Tis the season to be in the muffler / shocks / suspension and rim business.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: TheShepherd on March 05, 2010, 01:28:57 PM
'Tis the season to be in the muffler / shocks / suspension and rim business.

Driving down Monroe County roads it's never out of season. :(
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 05, 2010, 01:43:07 PM
Didn't the Basile family own the restaurant at the Bowl A Drome? For some reason that name seems right. Their food was OK but the place was kinda run down.
Carl's has a cult following, but their food is not that great. Their guacamole tastes like it came out of a can.
I agree with you Chicken, Cuban food is very good, and Cuban sandwiches would be great here. Just think of a deli sandwich cooked in a shirt press. Delicious. Especially those in Miami, which is the last place I had one. You are also correct about the bigots in this town, or should I say from near this town, like in Deerfield. Hard to believe this is a business owner. 8* 8* 8* 8* 8*

Shows me just how little you know.  Just because I own a business don't mean I have to be or desire to play Harvey Milktoast.  Most of my customers are just as polarized as I am.

I wouldn't be at all suprised if you were actually a closet bigot yourself.  venue's like this allow people like yourself to play the 'Two Faces of Eve' without revealing your true intent.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Kingsley on March 05, 2010, 01:58:59 PM
Shows me just how little you know.  Just because I own a business don't mean I have to be or desire to play Harvey Milktoast.  Most of my customers are just as polarized as I am.

I wouldn't be at all suprised if you were actually a closet bigot yourself.  venue's like this allow people like yourself to play the 'Two Faces of Eve' without revealing your true intent.

Sorry but I am not a closet bigot. I don't hate anyone based on their color beliefs or any other reason. Sorry to hear that you aren't a carpet muncher though. Guess that means you are leaving your partner a little less than satisfied. Show me a man who won't munch the rug and I'll show you a wife to be stolen. :o
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 05, 2010, 02:04:28 PM
Sorry but I am not a closet bigot. I don't hate anyone based on their color beliefs or any other reason. Sorry to hear that you aren't a carpet muncher though. Guess that means you are leaving your partner a little less than satisfied. Show me a man who won't munch the rug and I'll show you a wife to be stolen. :o

Again, you missed the boat.  That comment was directed toward someone other than you.  Maybe you are the over the tank Frank type, not that I care.

I digress.  This thread isn't about personal sexual preferences anyway or what or who you are or what or who I am.

I have a mailbox on this site.  Use it.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Kingsley on March 05, 2010, 02:09:30 PM
Shows me just how little you know.  Just because I own a business don't mean I have to be or desire to play Harvey Milktoast.  Most of my customers are just as polarized as I am.

I wouldn't be at all suprised if you were actually a closet bigot yourself.  venue's like this allow people like yourself to play the 'Two Faces of Eve' without revealing your true intent.

Well this was directed at me.

What a great slogan for your business.
"Come to Flip*#@$*#$'s where the owner and all of our customers are bigots"

I guess that would appeal to some.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: choff4 on March 05, 2010, 05:48:21 PM
I just spoke with one of the owner's at Lucio's Deli today and they are moving into the building where Nena's was.He said if he gets approved on Monday he will be opened by Friday.It will be a sit down place also unlike their North Monroe st. place.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: MM1 on March 05, 2010, 07:20:56 PM
I noticed Lucio's new sign up in the Kroger parking lot today.  I wish them well.  I really like their tamales.  And they have GREAT homemade tortillas.

I really hope they do well. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: cullet on March 05, 2010, 07:57:35 PM
Ok this is only by memory. La Fiesta early to mid sixty's in a house on telegraph around where Jets pizza is now, late sixty's to early seventy's on the corner of Hurd and Monroe in the old Pit Stop burger joint, then they moved out to Lasalle on South Dixie, then to their present location, and then opened the one in Dundee.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: cullet on March 05, 2010, 08:03:32 PM
I noticed Lucio's new sign up in the Kroger parking lot today.  I wish them well.  I really like their tamales.  And they have GREAT homemade tortillas.

I really hope they do well. 
MM1 how right you are they do have great tamales have been buying them by the dozen since they opened now they will be closer to home and I can sit down and try their other food.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Billy on March 05, 2010, 08:08:15 PM
So Lucio's will have two locations? Or they are closing the one they are currently in and moving to the Kroger site?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Chicken on March 05, 2010, 08:22:37 PM

I don't know how old you are Cullet, I think my dad owned the Pit Stop at one time.. him and my Uncle.. it was before I was born and people laughed hysterically when they mentioned it... I guess the two of them were like a Lucy and Ethyl... lol

It was him and another uncle that had the Pizza place in the East End... They wanted a Beer Garden, bought it, couldn't get a license... So they thought they would "Dump" it on his sister... Long Story short... It became the Little Dixie... After that my Dad stuck with being a car hauler....

Erie I worked at the Friendly Inn too... lol I always think of Gunsmoke.. he was quite the character...

and yes.. The Daughter in Law.. was a Basile, her dad owned the Shell Station out on Dixie.. They bought it.. but used Carl's food recipes.. I think... She married one of their sons... I can't remember her name, but I seem to recall we didn't like each other.. I know I never went into the place.. I think it had something to do with a pool game.. I use to play the tables a bit, and pissed a few people off along the way..  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: JMO on March 05, 2010, 08:35:21 PM
Good stuff

i haven't heard the words beer garden in a while.

which little dixie?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: cullet on March 05, 2010, 08:48:07 PM
Too old sometimes, I was only in the Pit Stop one time, if I remember right it was after boot camp in 1966, had the super stocker burger, that bad boy was the size of a dinner plate and at that time they said it would feed four. Long time ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: choff4 on March 06, 2010, 09:52:27 AM
I believe Lucio's deli is moving because they needed more room so the one by Kroger will be the only one they will be running. I can't wait.After talking to Tom at the deli yesterday I didn't get the impression there would be 2 places open. He said "We are moving is all".
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on March 06, 2010, 10:02:33 AM
Good stuff

i haven't heard the words beer garden in a while.

which little dixie?

A true "beer garden" is an outside place to drink your beer and food...

from the german biergarten...

my guess is it was a popular phrase after WW2 when soldiers were returning from Europe and it has kind of died out over the years...

I heard my dad (a WW2 veteran of Germany and France) speak of beer gardens all the time when I was growing up...

I spent some time in Germany in the Army in the early 70's and did see some true Biergartens...    Germany has weather very similar to ours right here in southern Michigan so you can see where an outside place to drink and eat might not be too popular for part of the year...
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on March 06, 2010, 10:12:03 AM
So Lucio's will have two locations? Or they are closing the one they are currently in and moving to the Kroger site?


Their website doesn't say one way or the other...

Hopefully they will update it soon...

http://luciosmexideli.com/ (http://luciosmexideli.com/)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: afveteran88 on March 07, 2010, 06:44:04 AM
I see that the Bedford Car Wash on Lewis Ave just closed up and there is a for sale sign in the front. I called the # and found out it was selling for $650,000. Wow was I shocked. For those of you who don't know where it is, it's right next to the Secretary of State office they have decided to keep open.
BTW. I think La Fiesta's food and service sucks. I would hands down choose Carl's Hide Away for any Mexican food.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 07, 2010, 10:22:34 AM
I'm sure the 650 is substantially biased toward the physical plant.  Car Wash equipment is very expensive to purchase and has a pretty high maintenance factor as well.

That's why the coin car washes are popular.  Very little investment in physical plant and upkeep is minimal.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: eriemermaid on March 07, 2010, 11:43:45 AM
I see that the Bedford Car Wash on Lewis Ave just closed up and there is a for sale sign in the front. I called the # and found out it was selling for $650,000. Wow was I shocked. For those of you who don't know where it is, it's right next to the Secretary of State office they have decided to keep open.
BTW. I think La Fiesta's food and service sucks. I would hands down choose Carl's Hide Away for any Mexican food.

I seen last week there is a for sale sign on the car wash in Luna Pier also.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on March 09, 2010, 07:55:16 AM
The sign on Bedford Auto Wash says "Bank Owned" and "Must Sell."
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: jt921 on March 09, 2010, 08:06:28 AM

I seen last week there is a for sale sign on the car wash in Luna Pier also.

seems like that sign has been there for a few years. maybe i'm mistaken
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on March 10, 2010, 11:50:52 PM
Sidecar:
I owned a self serve car wash for over 20 years. They are very equipment cost intense and maintenance is a virtual nightmare. The nightmare gets worse in the frigid michigan winters. Imagine paying the heating bill to keep the entire slab under the car wash heated enough to keep the ice from freezing all winter. Mine had a 600,000 btu heater for the floor and a 400,000 btu heater for the hot water to wash the cars. Each bay had 22 selenoids that controlled the distribution of product to each bay.
I sold it to a guy that had your same theory about self serve car washes. He assumed that the worst part of the job would be counting all of those quarters.
He went belly up in 2 years.

BTW: A group of investors bought 22 car washes in Michigan and Ohio about 3 years ago. The bank took them back and is now trying to sell them for about 20 cents on the dollar.
All of the Toledo YOU DO IT'S were part of that deal. I can link the brochure if anybody is interested.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: the nosh on March 12, 2010, 08:12:48 AM
speaking of lafiesta...did anyone notice they took out all the booths???  8*

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Kingsley on March 12, 2010, 08:17:12 AM
Sidecar:
I owned a self serve car wash for over 20 years. They are very equipment cost intense and maintenance is a virtual nightmare. The nightmare gets worse in the frigid michigan winters. Imagine paying the heating bill to keep the entire slab under the car wash heated enough to keep the ice from freezing all winter. Mine had a 600,000 btu heater for the floor and a 400,000 btu heater for the hot water to wash the cars. Each bay had 22 selenoids that controlled the distribution of product to each bay.
I sold it to a guy that had your same theory about self serve car washes. He assumed that the worst part of the job would be counting all of those quarters.
He went belly up in 2 years.

Absolutely correct. Most think of these types of car washes as a garden hose in a block building and then start taking in money. Now with the spotless rince water purifier and all of the chemicals involved, it is cost prohibitive to even try to open a new car wash.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 12, 2010, 08:30:42 AM
Sidecar:
I owned a self serve car wash for over 20 years. They are very equipment cost intense and maintenance is a virtual nightmare. The nightmare gets worse in the frigid michigan winters. Imagine paying the heating bill to keep the entire slab under the car wash heated enough to keep the ice from freezing all winter. Mine had a 600,000 btu heater for the floor and a 400,000 btu heater for the hot water to wash the cars. Each bay had 22 selenoids that controlled the distribution of product to each bay.
I sold it to a guy that had your same theory about self serve car washes. He assumed that the worst part of the job would be counting all of those quarters.
He went belly up in 2 years.

BTW: A group of investors bought 22 car washes in Michigan and Ohio about 3 years ago. The bank took them back and is now trying to sell them for about 20 cents on the dollar.
All of the Toledo YOU DO IT'S were part of that deal. I can link the brochure if anybody is interested.

I was under the impression that it was full service, not self service but then I've never saw it so I was crap shooting.  I tend to avoid that area.  It's too populated for my liking.

I imagine initial investment is high.  I have an Alladin 3500 psi diesel HW unit myself and it was over 5 grand, so yes, it takes a lot of quarters and yes, the economy is such that a garden hose is cheaper or a cheapie box store Karcher disposable PW.

Plus you deal with the public in an unattended situation and I don't want to go there except to say that I'm familiar with unattended public and their attitudes....probably why surveilance cameras are so popular.

I would imagine that when coin carwashes were first conceived, they were a goldmine (like a coin laundries were).
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: dawn9368 on April 08, 2010, 08:03:51 PM
so what other businesses have you heard that are gonna be closing?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Kingsley on May 04, 2010, 01:09:01 AM
i just heard today that the owner of marcos in Monroe got a job driving a school bus cuz business is so slow for him, and that he said he wants to get out of the pizza business cuz his new competitor is taking his customers from him,
He's a nice guy, and Marco's has good pizza. Guess I'll have to order more from him from now on to help him out.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: copiocus on May 09, 2010, 10:27:01 PM
you better order a lot, cuz i just heard again today he is on his way out, so ya probably dont have much time left, and now Mary saccos pizza is no longer Tiffany's so they have a much larger delivery area than before, they are gonna cut into the marcos market more too now, so that's not gonna be good for him either
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Kingsley on July 31, 2010, 05:35:31 PM
White Castle
Johnny Rockets (again)
Burger King LaPlaisance

What's next.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 01, 2010, 10:55:25 PM
Showboat Video in thriving Downtown Petersburg is done, going out of business.  been there about 15 years.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 01, 2010, 10:56:14 PM
White Castle
Johnny Rockets (again)
Burger King LaPlaisance

What's next.

White Castle?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Billy on August 02, 2010, 03:59:08 PM
x2 White Castle is closed?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on August 02, 2010, 04:03:38 PM
Hot Dog House
Hollywood Video
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: T-M-T on August 02, 2010, 04:07:59 PM
Hollywood Video

Hard to blame that one on Monroe.  Pay-per-view and online streaming will have all of these video places obsolete in a couple more years.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Collegekid on August 02, 2010, 04:11:51 PM
Hard to blame that one on Monroe.  Pay-per-view and online streaming will have all of these video places obsolete in a couple more years.

Yeah, the whole chain went under there, hardly any one city's fault.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: AngelaK on August 02, 2010, 04:26:33 PM
x2 White Castle is closed?

White Castle isn't closed or closing.  Just ate there last weekend.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: PXaiver on August 02, 2010, 04:30:24 PM
Hard to blame that one on Monroe.  Pay-per-view and online streaming will have all of these video places obsolete in a couple more years.

Netflix too.  I know that now I've discovered it I could never go back to a regular video store.  I mean how many video stores do you know that carry the beautiful German flick Salon Kitty?  Who knows how far I would have had to drive to rent it.....
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: choff4 on August 02, 2010, 04:43:25 PM
LOL Shaggy you can always find it at Amazon.com
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: PXaiver on August 02, 2010, 04:54:44 PM
Yeah but you can't rent it at Amazon.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: choff4 on August 02, 2010, 04:56:58 PM
True. I just thought you might want a copy of your own. ;)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: PXaiver on August 02, 2010, 05:04:32 PM
Actually I would.  It's been known to impress dates when we have a movie night.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 02, 2010, 06:08:19 PM
White Castle isn't closed or closing.  Just ate there last weekend.

I love White Castle.  Laxitave on a bun...... ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: arpydave on August 03, 2010, 08:18:17 AM
I love White Castle.  Laxitave on a bun...... ;D

Either a laxative or an air freshener
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Billy on August 27, 2010, 02:08:35 PM
Looks llike Gen X games on Monroe street closed. I never went in there (not a big gamer) but I hate to see people give it a shot and not make it. Maybee the location, businesses seem to come and go from that spot quite often. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: forever39 on August 27, 2010, 02:21:09 PM
We live near the game store.  My son and grandson were in there about a week prior to their closing and the person working told them they were planning to expand with more games, systems, etc.  We were shocked when we realized they were closed.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Billy on August 27, 2010, 02:24:57 PM
That's strange it didn't seem as if they had a lot of business, anytime I went by the store was empty.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: mattm16 on August 28, 2010, 11:09:50 PM
Actually, I talked to the owner of Gen X Games, and he told me they would be moving to either a place south of that by Monroe Flowers (I think) or north of that by the Harwood dealership.  So, no they didn't close, just moved.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on August 29, 2010, 04:03:56 AM
The dirty secret of any video game store is that there is essentially zero margin on the games themselves. Well, new games anyway. You make your money selling accessories and used games. They had lots of used games, but they were for ancient systems, and the one time I went in there looking for an HDMI cord, they didn't carry them. Silly for them, because the usual margin on HDMI cables is in the range of 90-95%.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monique on August 29, 2010, 09:54:17 AM
Actually, I talked to the owner of Gen X Games, and he told me they would be moving to either a place south of that by Monroe Flowers (I think) or north of that by the Harwood dealership.  So, no they didn't close, just moved.
That's good to know. I'm glad they haven't closed permanently.

Wonder why that little building on Monroe and Lorain can't seem to sustain a business? It's a good location with its own parking, even. Easy in, easy out access, too.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Duke on September 01, 2010, 07:23:33 PM
Frankly I'm a big fan of Vaqueros Polla a la diabla.  Not enough heat but tasty nonetheless.
Maybe I should try something different, the food I ate there was terrible. The sauce on my enchiladas tasted exactly like sphagetti o's, minus the o's of course.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: PXaiver on September 01, 2010, 07:31:14 PM
Never order a la carte items there.  Personally I'm a fan of chicken dishes sp I can recommend thee polla a la diabla, the yucatan chicken, and the chicken and chorizo.  The yucatan chicken has lots of veggies and no heat.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on September 01, 2010, 08:11:44 PM
The dirty secret of any video game store is that there is essentially zero margin on the games themselves. Well, new games anyway. You make your money selling accessories and used games. They had lots of used games, but they were for ancient systems, and the one time I went in there looking for an HDMI cord, they didn't carry them. Silly for them, because the usual margin on HDMI cables is in the range of 90-95%.

Holy cow!

Are you saying a $10 cable has a wholesale cost of 50 cents to a dollar?

Damn.  I'm in the wrong business!   :D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on September 01, 2010, 08:22:28 PM
Holy cow!

Are you saying a $10 cable has a wholesale cost of 50 cents to a dollar?

Damn.  I'm in the wrong business!   :D

A $40 HDMI cable at Wallyworld normally has a 90-95% profit margin. dealextreme.com sells the same cables for $3.95.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: PXaiver on September 01, 2010, 09:27:25 PM
I personally know about the manpower and resources that it takes to build any electrical cable, and Lordfly has it about spot on.  There is some give and take on the cost to build, but not much.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Duke on September 07, 2010, 05:12:35 PM
Never order a la carte items there.  Personally I'm a fan of chicken dishes sp I can recommend thee polla a la diabla, the yucatan chicken, and the chicken and chorizo.  The yucatan chicken has lots of veggies and no heat.
maybe i will give it another shot, there are items on every menu at every restaurant that i do not like, and others that I can't get enough of.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: PXaiver on September 07, 2010, 05:23:41 PM
I'm of the mindset that I will give any place 3 times.  I figure that gives me enough chances to sample different dishes to tell if they're decent. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monique on September 07, 2010, 05:26:59 PM
maybe i will give it another shot, there are items on every menu at every restaurant that i do not like, and others that I can't get enough of.
Duke, try the carnitas. Chunks of roasted pork with tortillas, guacamole, pico de gallo, beans, and rice. Great meal. I always bring half of mine home!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on September 07, 2010, 05:27:40 PM
I used to have that mindset on women too, Shag.   ;)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: PXaiver on September 07, 2010, 05:31:33 PM
Fuzz, this isn't the right thread for the comment I want to make about your statement...
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on September 07, 2010, 05:53:53 PM
LOL....watch it, the admin is on line.   ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Duke on September 08, 2010, 06:32:07 PM
Duke, try the carnitas. Chunks of roasted pork with tortillas, guacamole, pico de gallo, beans, and rice. Great meal. I always bring half of mine home!
Sounds like a plan! Thanks
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Collegekid on September 13, 2010, 05:27:14 PM
Just got a tweet from Doby's Dagwoods that they have went out of business. I really liked that place.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on September 16, 2010, 07:17:39 PM
I don't get out on the east side of town much for now... I was wondering when did Heather's County Kitchen close? I ate there when it was the Harmony House. Its been a while.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: T-M-T on December 07, 2010, 09:19:24 PM
I received a letter today about Bank of America closing the South Custer branch in March.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ell on December 07, 2010, 09:30:31 PM
Too bad about Inga's bakery downtown.  I hadn't been in there, but then I try to steer clear of bakeries do to my weakness for sweets.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: jalbright on March 04, 2011, 09:59:49 AM
Is Monroe Multi-Sports Complex done with?  I can't find it online anymore...  I read it was taken over by new management.  I'm just wondering if Bounce Mania is still open for the kiddos...
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on March 08, 2011, 12:43:31 PM
Isn't the Complex city-owned? Doubt it's out.

On the other hand, United Furniture on Telegraph just went under. There's a big building that'll never get rented again.

Both art galleries downtown closed... the hookah lounge downtown didn't last a month...
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on March 08, 2011, 12:55:38 PM
Isn't the Complex city-owned? Doubt it's out.

On the other hand, United Furniture on Telegraph just went under. There's a big building that'll never get rented again.

Both art galleries downtown closed... the hookah lounge downtown didn't last a month...

There was a big article in the MEN several months ago.  Owner was getting ready to retire.  They had been having a going out of business sale for several months.  Not sure it's fair to say he went under.  Sounds more like a planned sell off.  He does still own the building I believe.  The article talked about the other investments (real estate) he has made.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on March 09, 2011, 08:50:39 AM
There was a big article in the MEN several months ago.  Owner was getting ready to retire.  They had been having a going out of business sale for several months.  Not sure it's fair to say he went under.  Sounds more like a planned sell off.  He does still own the building I believe.  The article talked about the other investments (real estate) he has made.
BRD - You are correct, he retired and sold off the stock but still owns the building.

I bought a table during the closing and he told me that he was ready to retire and enjoy other things.   I don't think he had any family to carry on the business, and the employees there didn't want to try and take on that task either.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: zero on March 20, 2011, 09:14:27 AM
I'd put the entire "Mall of Monroe" on "deathwatch".  Almost no recognizable business that's gone in there in the last 5-10 years has been able or willing to stay.  The ones that have are probably barely hanging on.  The area's "finest" parents allow their kids to hang-out there with no adult supervision making for a less than desirable shopping experience.  The theater is a joke.  No free or even paid wifi available to make up for the poor cell reception in the building.  Probably paid a ton for the remodel which hasn't paid off either.

Lose one more "anchor" store and they are done-for.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on March 20, 2011, 09:57:46 AM
I'd put the entire "Mall of Monroe" on "deathwatch".  Almost no recognizable business that's gone in there in the last 5-10 years has been able or willing to stay.  The ones that have are probably barely hanging on.  The area's "finest" parents allow their kids to hang-out there with no adult supervision making for a less than desirable shopping experience.  The theater is a joke.  No free or even paid wifi available to make up for the poor cell reception in the building.  Probably paid a ton for the remodel which hasn't paid off either.

Lose one more "anchor" store and they are done-for.

People have been saying this about the mall since 1988. Reports of its death are routinely exaggerated.

PS, there's free wi-fi all over the mall.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: zero on March 20, 2011, 10:52:44 AM
People have been saying this about the mall since 1988. Reports of its death are routinely exaggerated.

PS, there's free wi-fi all over the mall.

Sure, reports of the mall's failure around that time period would be exaggerated; that's when the mall was at its peak!  It's slow and steady decline since then has all the markings of a business teetering on failure.

It's a mystery to me why someone keeps pumping money into it.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: El Guapo on March 20, 2011, 11:04:01 AM
It's a mystery to you because you don't understand business.  NO ONE would be there if they weren't making at least a little bit of money!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: zero on March 20, 2011, 11:12:10 AM
It's a mystery to you because you don't understand business.  NO ONE would be there if they weren't making at least a little bit of money!
Touch a sensitive nerve, did I?

Um, I don't advertise myself as the most knowledgeable person when it comes to business matters, but common sense tells me that a mall that's roughly a third empty (and has been for quite some time) and can't even keep a store like Old Navy (which always appeared to be quite popular) has got to be doing SOMETHING wrong.

It's possible there's stores there because they are under long-term leases with hefty fees for getting out of them.  Or, there might be some that don't know when to throw in the towel.  Who knows...

All I know is, the place is essentially dead during the week and not terribly busy on the weekend.  And, half of the people that are walking around are teen/preteens with nothing else better to do and aren't there to shop in the first place.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: El Guapo on March 22, 2011, 05:34:46 PM
you didn't touch a nerve, I was simply pointing out that you're wrong.  Besides an observation of how many people are there on a weekday, what do you base your assertion on?  Have you talked to Taco Bell which has been there for over 20 years and still seems to be doing fine?  Have you talked to the manager at Target to find out how his profit and loss statement is stacking up lately?  Do you think that a large company Aeropostale` just makes willy nilly decisions about where to open stores, and then just hangs on to a store that loses money month after month after month?  That mall will never be the regional super center that you want it to be, but Monroe doesn't support that level of shopping.  Apparently, after reading multiple posts by you, your support of Monroe seems fairly low as well.  If people support their local vendors, then more will come to our small town and set up shop. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: zero on March 27, 2011, 05:47:41 AM
you didn't touch a nerve, I was simply pointing out that you're wrong.  Besides an observation of how many people are there on a weekday, what do you base your assertion on?  Have you talked to Taco Bell which has been there for over 20 years and still seems to be doing fine?  Have you talked to the manager at Target to find out how his profit and loss statement is stacking up lately?  Do you think that a large company Aeropostale` just makes willy nilly decisions about where to open stores, and then just hangs on to a store that loses money month after month after month?  That mall will never be the regional super center that you want it to be, but Monroe doesn't support that level of shopping.  Apparently, after reading multiple posts by you, your support of Monroe seems fairly low as well.  If people support their local vendors, then more will come to our small town and set up shop. 
You're opinion is that I'm wrong -- big difference.

Yes, I'm basing my assertion on my experience, which is all I have to go on.  It's not like the management of the mall advertises customer traffic data, nor and I going to take time out of my busy day to waltz into the mall office and inquire how business is going.

By the way, nice pointing out the few and far between examples of what is keeping the mall open.  Target is the only store that brings me to mall.  Everything else is either too small to offer an enticing selection (Walden Books for example) or more competitive pricing can be found elsewhere.

No, I don't think large companies make "willy nilly" decisions as a whole.  Smart and successful business don't. 

I don't want or care if it becomes a "regional supercenter"; I can find just about whatever I want at a price I can agree with thanks to the Internet.  You seem to be making a lot of assumptions about me, by the way.

My support of local business couldn't be higher.  I just support local businesses that make sense to me, not blindly out of some misplaced sense of hometown loyalty.  For example, I won't step foot in another Tim Hortons if I can help it, especially if I'm in town.  I only deal with Monica's Baker Boy; their quality, price, and selection are far above and beyond what any national bakery/donut/coffee chain could ever hope for.  When I need replacement computer parts FAST, I stop in a Thompson Computers or the computer shop on Telegraph Rd instead of paying Staples overly inflated pricing.

Don't mistake my, sometimes harsh, criticism of local business for me be anti-local.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: adria on March 27, 2011, 09:44:22 AM
Throughout 2008 and 2009, Old Navy closed several underperforming stores throughout the country.  Monroe was one of them.  Personally, I've never liked them...their clothes run too small and seem cheaply made.

Anyway, what deters me from shopping at the mall, is there is no place there I'm really interested in.  If you look at a very well performing mall like Franklin Park mall (Westfield, I think it's really called), you find a variety of stores and restaurants in the food court.  I know they are way bigger than Monroe, but still, Monroe needs more of a variety.  And how about a good coffee kiosk?  Like Starbucks or Caribou Coffee?

Also, they MUST do something more about the teens there at night on weekends. Just having the guards walking around is looking to be useless.  I mean, they try to stop them from hanging out outside the food court entrance, so now they are congregating outside of Target.  I was there at 9 o'clock on Friday night, had to run in to Target.  There was a group of teen boys, running around and pushing each other and loudly and frequently using the "F" word.  Target employees stopped the kids acting up right inside the door, but don't seem to go outside and make them stop.

I told my kids one night (who are also teens), I felt like going up to those kids and telling them to watch their language, and my oldest son told me that they wouldn't care what I said and would probably cuss me out.  I said, "then we'd see how they like it when I stand right in their face and call 911, to report threats from a rowdy group of teens."  I don't know...I guess as a mother to three teens, whom I make respect me and other adults, I find these kids' behavior infuriating.

I don't see anything wrong with kids hanging out a mall.  That's what American kids have done for years.  It's the behavior of the kids that wrong and needs to be checked.  When I was a teen in the 80's and hung out at Northtowne mall, I don't remember anyone ever making a fool out of themselves, yelling, running, cussing loudly or any of the things that these kids do now.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: MM1 on March 27, 2011, 10:09:08 AM
I guess I'm one of the few who likes our mall.  But, then again, I don't do a lot of power shopping.  When I do though, they meet my needs.

Shops I use:

Sears, Target, Walden Books, Master Cuts, Elder Beerman, the Kitchen Gadget store, Kay Jewelers, Radio Shack, Bath & Body, Christopher &  Banks, Olgas Kitchen. 

I think they should add a stadium seating theater in the area out back of the mall.  I'm spoiled and will not go to any other theater than Franklin Park for that reason.  Not the stores, only the theater.  If that happened in Monroe, I would probably not head to Toledo at all. 

Oh well.  Could the mall add more stores?  Yes.  Is it a deal breaker until they do?  No.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monique on March 27, 2011, 11:46:43 AM
Adria, thanks for being a responsible parent and teaching your kids to be respectful and considerate. That's hard work to do, and many lazy parents would rather just drop their PITA kids off for a few hours rather than take the time to teach them to be good citizens. Unfortunately, it seems like there's more of them than us. I'd be very tempted to confront the kids, too, but as your wise teen pointed out, it wouldn't change a thing.

I think kids also act so outrageous and disrespectful because that's what they've seen on TV for their entire lives. All of the idiotic reality TV shows filled with teen angst and drama and horrible behavior makes these kids think they're on camera and need to show out. They have "look at me syndrome" to the max.

As far as the mall, I go to Target and Elder-Beerman, and not much more. Sears for our kids' pictures (they do have a good portrait studio) and the occasional power tool. We ARE looking forward to the Celebrate Kids event held there next weekend!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: tnweasel on March 27, 2011, 12:44:21 PM
I like our theater...it's not the nicest I have ever been in....but it's always clean when we go (usually matinee), it's close to home, and I have found the staff to be great....love the popcorn!!!...we shop at B&B...Target...Sears....Elder Beerman Homestore....but I am not a mall shopper in general....and yes....someone...PARENTS...needs to get the teens under control....but teens everywhere are obnoxious....try sitting outside waiting on a high schooler or even a middle schooler come out of school in the afternoon and you will get a real education. however, I can remember being wild  as a teen in the 80's.....
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: El Guapo on March 27, 2011, 01:23:52 PM
@Adria, teen issues happen at every mall.  I don't think our mall is that bad.  Last year, multiple police units responded to a brawl in the foodcourt at Westfield.  They have issues as well and their issues seem to be worse than ours. 

@zero, what frustrates me, as a resident of Monroe, is when people bad mouth their city and the choices offered.  It's very simple, if you do not support your town, why would any business want to move in here?  If you go to Toledo, or Ann Arbor, or Downriver, than all new businesses are also going to go there.  If you really don't like Monroe, why do you stay?  you say your support of local businesses couldn't be higher and then in another sentence you say how you can find things cheaper on the internet.  I'm not making assumptions about you, I'm pointing out your quotes.

BTW, I completely agree with your donut choice.  Tim's sucks.  Monica's is the only place I go.  I'm not sure you could even call those things "donuts" at Tim's.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: adria on March 27, 2011, 03:37:31 PM
@Adria, teen issues happen at every mall.  I don't think our mall is that bad.  Last year, multiple police units responded to a brawl in the foodcourt at Westfield.  They have issues as well and their issues seem to be worse than ours. 


I'm not saying anything about the kids.  I'm sure they have problems. Bigger mall, bigger problems. I was saying that I think they have a nice, diverse selection of stores.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: El Guapo on March 27, 2011, 07:43:27 PM
cool....agreed.  But, they are a regional supercenter.  Our mall will never be that.  We need to manage our expectations.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on May 02, 2011, 12:06:50 PM
I noticed the other day that the laundromat across from Nortel Lanes is closed. Or are they just remodeling?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on May 03, 2011, 01:19:04 PM
In a reversal of this thread's name, Nena's Tacos is reopening on Monroe Street across from Victory Honda. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: family man on May 03, 2011, 01:29:48 PM
In a reversal of this thread's name, Nena's Tacos is reopening on Monroe Street across from Victory Honda. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Where's Fuzz to make fun of this post?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: AngelaK on May 03, 2011, 03:55:40 PM
In a reversal of this thread's name, Nena's Tacos is reopening on Monroe Street across from Victory Honda. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

ewe
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: General Buster on May 03, 2011, 05:45:55 PM
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lordfly reverses to me, i call green and play is back to angela...
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on May 07, 2011, 07:24:52 AM
Where's Fuzz to make fun of this post?

Gotta love it when a taco reopens for business!

How is that familyman?   ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Collegekid on May 07, 2011, 07:31:43 PM
Gotta love it when a taco reopens for business!

How is that familyman?   ;D

Lamesauce...
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on May 10, 2011, 11:28:54 AM
You guys are no fun. Greasy open-faced tacos are the best food in the universe.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: family man on May 10, 2011, 12:01:00 PM
Gotta love it when a taco reopens for business!

How is that familyman?   ;D

Perfect. LOL
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: zero on May 25, 2011, 08:03:05 PM
@Adria, teen issues happen at every mall.  I don't think our mall is that bad.  Last year, multiple police units responded to a brawl in the foodcourt at Westfield.  They have issues as well and their issues seem to be worse than ours. 

@zero, what frustrates me, as a resident of Monroe, is when people bad mouth their city and the choices offered.  It's very simple, if you do not support your town, why would any business want to move in here?  If you go to Toledo, or Ann Arbor, or Downriver, than all new businesses are also going to go there.  If you really don't like Monroe, why do you stay?  you say your support of local businesses couldn't be higher and then in another sentence you say how you can find things cheaper on the internet.  I'm not making assumptions about you, I'm pointing out your quotes.

BTW, I completely agree with your donut choice.  Tim's sucks.  Monica's is the only place I go.  I'm not sure you could even call those things "donuts" at Tim's.

I don't dislike Monroe.  I just find it disturbing and disheartening to see too many business stagnant and not willing to change with the times.  Their lack of flexibility will be their demise. Think outside the box; don't just expect customers to just roll in.  Go out and show some effort to "win" their business, that's all.

Again, I'll shop Monroe businesses when they make sense to me and my wallet, not out of blind loyalty. 

And to those who think I don't like the mall... I don't.  I don't like what it's become.  It's withering on the vine.  At least a quarter of it has to be vacant shops or turned into, essentially, empty space (the food court). I used to vibrant and fun, a social center in some respects.  It's now dull and a dumping ground for youths whose parents don't know what to do with them.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on June 03, 2011, 06:55:10 PM
I went by Steve's Tavern earlier and saw he was selling stuff. I stopped in and asked what was going on and I was told that the owner of the building wants to renovate and wanted him out.
Still lots of stuff for sale. Some are a little to "pricey" for me.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on June 05, 2011, 10:57:45 PM
Cafe Classics: Gone.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: PXaiver on June 06, 2011, 12:50:38 PM
Cafe Classics: Gone.



Score one for the good guys.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Frenchfry on June 06, 2011, 01:26:23 PM
Cafe Classics: Gone.
Hmmm...a religious coffee shop with folk music couldn't make it in Monroe?

Maybe a tea house would draw the conservative caucus tea-baggers back downtown.

But then there's the hassle of validating for parking.

I'd like to see Steve's tavern relocate there but my guess is the costs of that corner may have a lot to do with the demise of Cafe Classics.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on June 06, 2011, 09:44:04 PM
I couldn't go there after around 6pm, because of the insanely loud music of questionable quality.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Frenchfry on June 07, 2011, 07:39:42 AM
Café Classics, a coffeehouse, entertainment venue and fixture in downtown Monroe, closed abruptly over the weekend, apparently due to a complex set of business circumstances.
"There's just not enough traffic downtown to sustain the business," said Kevin Brown, one of two partners in the operation at 29 S. Monroe St. at E. Front St.
"I hope somebody sees it's closed and says we'll take a shot at this business," said Brian Beneteau, the landlord. "We'll work with them."
I'm positively hoping it stays a coffee shop," he said. "There's definitely a need for it in town."
For more details, see Tuesday's Monroe Evening News.
http://www.monroenews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110606/NEWS01/110609984 (http://www.monroenews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110606/NEWS01/110609984)

Hmmm...didn't know who owned the place....guess the rent was too high
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monique on June 07, 2011, 08:39:34 AM
A downtown coffee shop is a nice thing to have. I hope if another one comes in, it has significantly more panache. I found CC to be exceedingly dull in all ways.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 07, 2011, 08:41:04 AM
A downtown coffee shop is a nice thing to have. I hope if another one comes in, it has significantly more panache. I found CC to be exceedingly dull in all ways.

Apparently a lot of other people weren't too excited about going in there either 8* 8* 8*
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: FritzTheKat on June 07, 2011, 08:46:46 AM
A downtown coffee shop is a nice thing to have. I hope if another one comes in, it has significantly more panache. I found CC to be exceedingly dull in all ways.
We have a lot of them around here. I could loan you one. I'm sure it wouldn't be missed. ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 07, 2011, 08:48:37 AM
We have a lot of them around here. I could loan you one. I'm sure it wouldn't be missed. ;D

The people there must have more reasons to go downtown FTK ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monique on June 07, 2011, 09:19:39 AM
We have a lot of them around here. I could loan you one. I'm sure it wouldn't be missed. ;D
I've heard that about RO. A good coffee shop can be a draw on its own if it's appealing enough. Perhaps you can get an owner of a really cool shop to open a franchise in Monroe?  ;)
 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: T-M-T on June 07, 2011, 09:34:05 AM
My wife and I were driving through downtown a couple weeks ago on a Friday night and were talking about getting a latte from McDonald's on the way home.  I mentioned Café Classics and we decided to stop and try it.  As we approached, we noticed a group of religious nuts on the corner with signs and bullhorns.  They were holding bibles and shouting to everyone that passed by.  We decided to avoid the hassle and drive on.  Having those freaks outside on a regular basis certainly wasn’t good for business.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on June 07, 2011, 10:02:52 AM
My wife and I were driving through downtown a couple weeks ago on a Friday night and were talking about getting a latte from McDonald's on the way home.  I mentioned Café Classics and we decided to stop and try it.  As we approached, we noticed a group of religious nuts on the corner with signs and bullhorns.  They were holding bibles and shouting to everyone that passed by.  We decided to avoid the hassle and drive on.  Having those freaks outside on a regular basis certainly wasn’t good for business.
Unfortunately those people are frequently around town, and are protected by free speech. They were in no way associated with Cafe Classics.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: T-M-T on June 07, 2011, 10:08:21 AM
Unfortunately those people are frequently around town, and are protected by free speech. They were in no way associated with Cafe Classics.

Yeah, I figured that.  They sure are annoying, though. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 07, 2011, 10:08:42 AM
I'm sure if "The Fuzz" was posting this morning he would point out the likelihood that Cafe Classics would still be going strong if there was something like a hot dog cart in town help draw people in 8* 8* 8*
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monique on June 07, 2011, 10:08:46 AM
What about loitering or disturbing the peace? I'm all for free speech and peaceful demonstration, but they're way too loud with the bullhorns. It's a traffic risk when they're at Elm and Monroe, a glaring distraction. Everyone's looking at them instead of the road.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Billy on June 07, 2011, 10:20:39 AM
This is a significant loss to the downtown area. I stopped in occasionally on my evening stroll never stayed but liked the fact I could grab a coffee, hot chocolate or even water without having to endure the pain of our various dive bars. Sad to say ultimately it falls on the shoulders of the people but there just isn't anything to get people down there in the first place.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on June 07, 2011, 10:22:20 AM
Unfortunately those people are frequently around town, and are protected by free speech. They were in no way associated with Cafe Classics.

What is the process needed to organize a counter-protest with even more bullhorns across the street?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on June 07, 2011, 10:25:46 AM
Hmmm...didn't know who owned the place....guess the rent was too high
Perhaps with all of your experience with commercial rental property you could enlighten me with the proper amount that should be charged for 2850 square feet of street level space located on a high visibility corner Downtown. Not even factoring in taxes, Landlord improvements, and maintenance, simply provide your number for a "white box" rental space.
 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: family man on June 07, 2011, 10:28:36 AM
Perhaps with all of your experience with commercial rental property you could enlighten me with the proper amount that should be charged for 2850 square feet of street level space located on a high visibility corner Downtown. Not even factoring in taxes, Landlord improvements, and maintenance, simply provide your number for a "white box" rental space.

What would you expect from FF? As my dear old dad would say, he doesn't know crap from shoe polish. He's just jealous.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on June 07, 2011, 10:30:46 AM
What is the process needed to organize a counter-protest with even more bullhorns across the street?
I guess it would depend on your "religious" cause. This group sued the City and is allowed to operate without the necessary assembly permits. I would imagine you would need to get an assembly permit if you were a group. Now, on the other hand, if a chance gathering of individual citizens simply showed up and mingled around voicing their concerns in a non-violent way, that may simply fall under free speech as well. Sticky situation, and unfortunately I have tried in the past to do something about this disruptive bunch who do cause traffic safety issues to no avail.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on June 07, 2011, 10:38:21 AM
This is a significant loss to the downtown area. I stopped in occasionally on my evening stroll never stayed but liked the fact I could grab a coffee, hot chocolate or even water without having to endure the pain of our various dive bars. Sad to say ultimately it falls on the shoulders of the people but there just isn't anything to get people down there in the first place.
This is a loss to Downtown, and hopefully someone will re-open the business. The equipment remains in the building for the time being, and a new tenant will be sought after, not only by myself, but also by the previous owners of Cafe Classics who still own the equipment.
Your opinion about Downtown was not shared by the visitors from Utica during Mayor's exchange day. They, in fact, commented about the downtown and even claimed they wanted to model Utica after Monroe. Go figure. Visitors from outside of the City see it's value more than residents. That happens on more than a chance occasion by out of town visitors that we have.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Billy on June 07, 2011, 10:51:08 AM
Brian I think we could have something special in that area. We don't. What are the chances of a regular Joe from Utica getting in their car and driving to Monroe to hang out for the evening? During the Jazz fest sure but I'm talking about a regular night. Someone tagging along at a mayors conference enjoying a free lunch isn't going to tell you your town sucks. Bottom line is we've lost a decent business downtown and hopefully something does utilize one of the best corners in our city.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: superspice_10 on June 07, 2011, 11:14:38 AM
Sorry to see it go . I hadnt been there in a while , but stopped in for a Double Latte ( yes that was a double) every so often, I thought the coffe was really good , Hope someone opens it up again , The frozen coffee was good too.  :)

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on June 07, 2011, 11:18:23 AM
Brian I think we could have something special in that area. We don't. What are the chances of a regular Joe from Utica getting in their car and driving to Monroe to hang out for the evening? During the Jazz fest sure but I'm talking about a regular night. Someone tagging along at a mayors conference enjoying a free lunch isn't going to tell you your town sucks. Bottom line is we've lost a decent business downtown and hopefully something does utilize one of the best corners in our city.
Well since you didn't speak with Utica's Mayor, I will consider your comment as your opinion as to what may have been intended by the comment.

What would it take to get these regular Joe's to Monroe? Who is out there to invest their money to do this? Better yet, would you come down when it was done? With the investment being put into three buildings into downtown right now totalling well over $2 million dollars, hopefully they will find people willing to open businesses in these new spaces. Maybe you yourself should try opening a business that would bring the masses back to downtown. There are building owners willing to give below market rental rates and even months of free rent as incentives. Everyone says what should be here, but without the private investment it will not happen.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 07, 2011, 11:27:36 AM
Well since you didn't speak with Utica's Mayor, I will consider your comment as your opinion as to what may have been intended by the comment.

What would it take to get these regular Joe's to Monroe? Who is out there to invest their money to do this? Better yet, would you come down when it was done? With the investment being put into three buildings into downtown right now totalling well over $2 million dollars, hopefully they will find people willing to open businesses in these new spaces. Maybe you yourself should try opening a business that would bring the masses back to downtown. There are building owners willing to give below market rental rates and even months of free rent as incentives. Everyone says what should be here, but without the private investment it will not happen.

You're hitting on part of the problem Brian...

too often the only "measure" of what will make someplace "appealing" is how many Million$ was poured into it...

Maybe try looking at some things that have been successful in other towns that didn't cost Million$...

a couple that come to mind that I have seen in several other downtowns but have been fought tooth and nail in downtown Monroe...

hot dog carts...   and murals on the buildings...

Rich people think they have to spend $$$$$$ to make it appealing (probably do for themselves)...  but the masses are going to be people of lesser means and they aren't always impressed with the Million$ as much as the people that invested it 8* 8* 8*

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 07, 2011, 11:34:17 AM
Sorry to see it go . I hadnt been there in a while , but stopped in for a Double Latte ( yes that was a double) every so often, I thought the coffe was really good , Hope someone opens it up again , The frozen coffee was good too.  :)

I hadn't been in there lately either...

I always enjoyed talking to Bethany the barista when I did go in there though 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Chicken on June 07, 2011, 11:37:26 AM

I love Coffee shops.. I did not know those religious people were not part of the Coffee Shop..  As some know, I come to town and stay for a month or so..

Last time, my mother said there was a Blues Jam at that place..  She wanted me to go.. She knows that is my element..  But I had remembered from a previous trip.. and attempt.. To go to Cafe Classics..  I ran into a crowd of people that were trying to save me...  I was alone... Honestly, religious people like that scare the hell out of me.. I have good cause, and no I won't share why 8)

Now I feel bad that I did not go to their Blues Jam... 

You want to run off the religious nuts..  Lets get a permit to have Gay Pride!!!!!...  and a bull horn permit so our numbers out number their numbers and we can yell right back at them!!!!..

You know there is nothing better to flush out a bunch of zealots than support for Gay People...  They will be so busy praying for the souls of Monroe they won't have time to harass them..

Or.. I can let them violate my rights because I do not identify myself as someone Jesus needs to save.. if they block your way.. or touch you, they have violated your rights...

We can have a big ole court fight!!!...

But it is sad that people have to endure the preaching of others on a public sidewalk...
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Chicken on June 07, 2011, 11:59:16 AM


speaking of other businesses..  I do know someone who has been trying to sell their bar..  I had considered approaching them about leasing the business..  having a place for Blues...

But the footprint of the place would not work out.. and the way the place is, it would take a major renovation..

Then Steve's is losing his building... He is no spring chicken... Wonder where is liquor license would go..  I know a certain BBQ guy that needs a license.. He should approach Steve... they are in the same township.. I don't think the license has to stay in the City.. but they do have to stay in the same Township... If Steve doesn't reopen, he can keep his license in escrow until he finds the right buyer..  but that has a time limit on how many years you can escrow your license..

Of course things may have changed since my bar days....   but I am pretty sure Michigan only issues so many per townships and that goes by population...  That why like when the new places opened that sell liquor.. a lot of the dives went away.. their license were worth more than the business and the building combined..

I would love to try Cuban Sandwiches and a Coffee Cafe.. I don't have the finances to start one.. but if anyone else does.. and would like to know my ideas.. I think I could make something work..  Monroe likes inexpensive...  not fru fru...

but I would be leery if there were people around preaching... There should be some loitering law.. I know the don't hang on the corner of E. Front and Winchester... So if the drug dealers wanted to deal there.. all they would have to do is preach a little.. then it would not be loitering? 

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: tnweasel on June 07, 2011, 12:00:01 PM
sorry to see Cafe Classics go....my daughter and her friends used to go there to study during mid-terms/finals...hate to see them lose a place they really enjoyed and so close  to school. On a different note....anyone been to Dunham's lately...went by there for a quick pick up of some softball equipment for my daughter a couple of weeks ago....spent almost an hour and a half...couldn't find an employee without going 'up front' and disturbing the girls at the register....they were very busy talking since there were only four customers in the store....everyone else seemed to be on break in the back of the building...what a mess! they left the 'don't steal me tag' on one of the items we purchased...had to take it back later that day and the manager was still telling all the customers who complained about the lack of service that 'some employees didn't show up for work.' My last visit to Dunham's.... went by Rick's Sports yesterday to get numbers on her softball shirt....they have just about everything we need.....we will definitely return to Rick's for future purchases
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Chicken on June 07, 2011, 12:04:05 PM


I miss the Coney Island...  That was such a treat for us as kids to go window shopping and stop at the Coney..

Even though we ate at the Little Dixie all the time...   Going to the Coney Island was like going out to us!!!...
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Billy on June 07, 2011, 12:17:00 PM
That's all it is in the first place is an opinion. Honestly I would be terrified to invest in any new business downtown. Even you would have to admit the recent track record for new businesses in the core area is not a great one. I am glad that there are those that are brave enough to give it a shot. I try to support what businesses I can in that area but it's based on quality and service not just location. It is what it is down there I personally don't have a desire to be involved with a business in that area but I'm not pleased when one fails and do have the desire to support one if it is to my liking. And again I'm glad the mayor of Utica was impressed. But I also don't think once he and his entourage got into their vehicle and away from their free lunches and whatever other goodies they received from their hosts, that they were truly impressed with our downtown. I don't know what should be located in the area that would increase foot traffic from other cities but we can't even get our own citizens down there. I do attend many of the functions that take place down there and would recommend the Jazz fest or even the drum and fife muster to anyone. And before all the trees were cut down I thought it was very appealing to the eye. I don't know what the correct formula may or may not be. What I do know is with the closure of this particular business we aren't any closer to becoming a downtown that must be visited. Again just an opinion. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Billy on June 07, 2011, 12:21:18 PM
Quote
I miss the Coney Island... 

Me to Chicken, man would I love a coney burger platter with a chilli dog on the side about right now. I have to give Radovans their props as well they had a damn good burger.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on June 07, 2011, 12:36:31 PM
You're hitting on part of the problem Brian...

too often the only "measure" of what will make someplace "appealing" is how many Million$ was poured into it...

Maybe try looking at some things that have been successful in other towns that didn't cost Million$...

a couple that come to mind that I have seen in several other downtowns but have been fought tooth and nail in downtown Monroe...

hot dog carts...   and murals on the buildings...

Rich people think they have to spend $$$$$$ to make it appealing (probably do for themselves)...  but the masses are going to be people of lesser means and they aren't always impressed with the Million$ as much as the people that invested it 8* 8* 8*
Actually that was put simply to show that there is investment in downtown Monroe, and that it is not dead.
When Cafe Classics opened, it did quite well. When the opportunity to expand and make the business more visible by moving to the corner location, the business did even better, more than doubling the previous years business. Millions were not spent, and the business did well.
Hot dog carts were not fought tooth and nail, only the regulations for where they could be located. Currently they may operate downtown, yet choose not to. While I like the mural idea, there were challenges with upkeep, ownership and subject matter, not to mention regulation and the secretary of the interior standards for historic buildings to contend with.
While many will be impressed with the former Steve's Tavern location, many still will not visit downtown for whatever reasons they come up with. Some people like downtowns, and others like the malls. Some like new upscale bars and restaurants, and others like dives. A mix is needed to appeal to all. Yet it still takes private investment, no matter the cost.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 07, 2011, 12:49:09 PM
Actually that was put simply to show that there is investment in downtown Monroe, and that it is not dead.
When Cafe Classics opened, it did quite well. When the opportunity to expand and make the business more visible by moving to the corner location, the business did even better, more than doubling the previous years business. Millions were not spent, and the business did well.
Hot dog carts were not fought tooth and nail, only the regulations for where they could be located. Currently they may operate downtown, yet choose not to. While I like the mural idea, there were challenges with upkeep, ownership and subject matter, not to mention regulation and the secretary of the interior standards for historic buildings to contend with.
While many will be impressed with the former Steve's Tavern location, many still will not visit downtown for whatever reasons they come up with. Some people like downtowns, and others like the malls. Some like new upscale bars and restaurants, and others like dives. A mix is needed to appeal to all. Yet it still takes private investment, no matter the cost.

I think anyone who would have considered a "cart business" in Monroe has seen the "handwriting on the wall" of what they would be up against...

as far as murals...  thankfully there are no maintenance issues on any of those old historic buildings downtown 8* 8* 8*

I guess the only logical answer is to throw a few more Million$ at it ;) ;) ;)

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: dcb on June 07, 2011, 12:55:40 PM
Interesting that people talk abut the religious freaks on the street but not about the obvious christian bent to the business inside. I would go there to study on the weekends and had to bring headphones to drown out the horrid religious music.

It did not have the feel of a laid back coffee house since the new owner took over. He seemed like a nice guy, but I don't find "JESUS JESUS JESUS" music to blend nicely in to the background for me to read or have a conversation. As a result, the only people I consistently saw in there on Saturdays were bible study groups and a group of tea-party folks discussing politics.

My point? I don't want to be preached at, directly by side walk screamers or implicitly by the general atmosphere.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on June 07, 2011, 01:02:18 PM
I think anyone who would have considered a "cart business" in Monroe has seen the "handwriting on the wall" of what they would be up against...

as far as murals...  thankfully there are no maintenance issues on any of those old historic buildings downtown 8* 8* 8*

I guess the only logical answer is to throw a few more Million$ at it ;) ;) ;)
What handwriting? Follow the laws that everyone has to follow? They have a permit (or did for last year anyways) and all they have to do is open up. No, they can't set up in a cemetary/memorial park or on City Hall property, nor can they pull a trailer on the sidewalks, but they are lagally able to operate their cart.

Too much to type regarding the murals, and regardless it wouldn't do any good. 8* 8* 8*

And not necessary to throw millions to open up a business. Cravings opened up 1 1/2 years ago, and do a great job with not a huge investment. They provide a good product for a good price and are a very friendly place to visit. All it took was a positive vision.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 07, 2011, 01:05:54 PM
What handwriting? Follow the laws that everyone has to follow? They have a permit (or did for last year anyways) and all they have to do is open up. No, they can't set up in a cemetary/memorial park or on City Hall property, nor can they pull a trailer on the sidewalks, but they are lagally able to operate their cart.

Too much to type regarding the murals, and regardless it wouldn't do any good. 8* 8* 8*

And not necessary to throw millions to open up a business. Cravings opened up 1 1/2 years ago, and do a great job with not a huge investment. They provide a good product for a good price and are a very friendly place to visit. All it took was a positive vision.

The reference to the Million% is not to open a business...  but the idea of making lots of expensive improvements to the properties in order to draw the "masses" downtown...   honestly, that is now what the "masses" are looking for...

as far as the rules and regs for the carts...   I'm afraid you're just too close to the situation to see what I (and apparently a lot of others) see!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Billy on June 07, 2011, 01:13:18 PM
And just may be why people are reluctant to give it a try down there in the first place.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 07, 2011, 01:14:47 PM
I couldn't go there after around 6pm, because of the insanely loud music of questionable quality.


Here you go lf...

in case you really start missing the music downthere ;) ;) ;)

John Betz Live Show Cafe Classics PT9 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMfXxnMm3_k#)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on June 07, 2011, 01:16:10 PM
The reference to the Million% is not to open a business...  but the idea of making lots of expensive improvements to the properties in order to draw the "masses" downtown...   honestly, that is now what the "masses" are looking for...

as far as the rules and regs for the carts...   I'm afraid you're just too close to the situation to see what I (and apparently a lot of others) see!
Permits are available for hot dog carts. Bring them again like John V. did several years ago. Also Steve C. had a cart for a while. As did Laney and her boyfriend. They were here and did not bring the masses. They also complied with ordinances. If that is too close then so be it. On occasion we utilized their carts for a change of pace, and probably would try any new one out. I don't believe it to be the savior of downtown like private investment and new businesses would be, but that is just my opinion.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 07, 2011, 01:18:34 PM
Permits are available for hot dog carts. Bring them again like John V. did several years ago. Also Steve C. had a cart for a while. As did Laney and her boyfriend. They were here and did not bring the masses. They also complied with ordinances. If that is too close then so be it. On occasion we utilized their carts for a change of pace, and probably would try any new one out. I don't believe it to be the savior of downtown like private investment and new businesses would be, but that is just my opinion.

And I support your right to offer your opinion!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on June 07, 2011, 01:47:44 PM
And I support your right to offer your opinion!
As I do for you! Let's hope all of our opinions make a difference. ;)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on June 07, 2011, 02:18:41 PM
I'd be willing to privately invest art installations, or at least get a group interested in doing the same. Large-print photographs, murals, paintings, metal sculptures, whatever. We have a lot of public space downtown, thankfully, I believe it would look better covered in local art.

But first, I have to plan my other grumpy art project tomorrow.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on June 07, 2011, 02:21:09 PM
Here you go lf...

in case you really start missing the music downthere ;) ;) ;)

John Betz Live Show Cafe Classics PT9 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMfXxnMm3_k#[/url])


I worked with him at Wallyworld; really nice guy, very intent on learning his craft.

No, I was more complaining about "open mic night", or the 5-piece bands showing up with a wall of amps and plug-in guitars. If i can hear your music outside on the other side of the road, it's too loud. I come to coffee shops to have a conversation, not get shouted down by a Kerrang! affecionado.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Chicken on June 07, 2011, 02:31:24 PM

I think my mother was smart when she had her place downtown..  She had the option to buy the business and the building... or lease the business..

Pete, who had Pete's... thought she was crazy not buying it.. but she leased the business..

She worked hard for years.. She had a good business.. It was never a dive bar, she had a Restaurant and a good lunch crowd.. weekends she had live music or a DJ and Dancing..  I really wasn't around.. I had already moved to Florida when she went into that venture.. 

She made her money.. and when she turned 62... She had enough.. She just handed the business back..  No headaches of building maintenance or the apartment rentals that were above the place..  no having to find a buyer...  Which is how she was able to Lease it in the first place... They owners could not find a buyer and they were tired... It takes a lot of work... even with employees..

And in my opinion.. She got out at the right time....   
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Chicken on June 07, 2011, 02:38:41 PM
Interesting that people talk abut the religious freaks on the street but not about the obvious christian bent to the business inside. I would go there to study on the weekends and had to bring headphones to drown out the horrid religious music.

It did not have the feel of a laid back coffee house since the new owner took over. He seemed like a nice guy, but I don't find "JESUS JESUS JESUS" music to blend nicely in to the background for me to read or have a conversation. As a result, the only people I consistently saw in there on Saturdays were bible study groups and a group of tea-party folks discussing politics.

My point? I don't want to be preached at, directly by side walk screamers or implicitly by the general atmosphere.

Then I am glad the religious people scared me away...  Hey I am all for Religion.. Its just mine is I can't listen to it in Public Places...  Jesus said those were the hypocrites that pray in Public...

So.. I would have walked out if its Jesus stuff... Its my understanding that there are the buildings with Steeples and people.. go to those places to do that sort of stuff..

I don't want to hear it if I am trying to enjoy a cup of coffee...  So.. I can certainly understand..  If they want to risk their business..  Well then I don't feel sorry about it....  Apparently there were not enough Christians Flocking there to keep them open.. and yes.. Pun intended..  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on June 07, 2011, 02:42:47 PM
And not necessary to throw millions to open up a business. Cravings opened up 1 1/2 years ago, and do a great job with not a huge investment. They provide a good product for a good price and are a very friendly place to visit. All it took was a positive vision.

I love Cravings. I'm glad they're doing well.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Frenchfry on June 07, 2011, 05:30:31 PM
I love Cravings. I'm glad they're doing well.
Just found their website
http://cravingsmonroe.com/ (http://cravingsmonroe.com/)

Maybe they have a more reasonable landlord.

Can't help but recall that the same landlord was behind the demise of the Coney Island....and putting up a roadblock against hotdog carts.

Actually it just appears the Jesus freak coffee shop concept was a failure.

It would be nice if those that tried to make it work would share their insight on what they think happened.

But instead a certain politician will undoubtedly pipe in with his nasty attitude.  8*
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on June 07, 2011, 05:44:15 PM
Just found their website
[url]http://cravingsmonroe.com/[/url] ([url]http://cravingsmonroe.com/[/url])

Maybe they have a more reasonable landlord.

Can't help but recall that the same landlord was behind the demise of the Coney Island....and putting up a roadblock against hotdog carts.

Actually it just appears the Jesus freak coffee shop concept was a failure.

It would be nice if those that tried to make it work would share their insight on what they think happened.

But instead a certain politician will undoubtedly pipe in with his nasty attitude.  8*

Wow. This may be a new record for incorrect information, even for the Fry.

Landlord is the same!

The man from the coney island you are referring to didn't pay his rent and he was evicted. That is the way leases work. You rent you pay. You don't pay you don't stay. He made the decision to not pay. I made the decision to evict after he fell many months behind. Looking back I should have started the proceedings immediately, but gave him some latitude and I ended up on the wrong side financially on that decision.

I did not have input on the hot dog cart action and did not have a vote.

I still haven't seen your figures on rent that I asked you for, in an effort for you to confirm your initial statement about the rental amount.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on June 07, 2011, 05:45:17 PM
I think my mother was smart when she had her place downtown..  She had the option to buy the business and the building... or lease the business..

Pete, who had Pete's... thought she was crazy not buying it.. but she leased the business..

She worked hard for years.. She had a good business.. It was never a dive bar, she had a Restaurant and a good lunch crowd.. weekends she had live music or a DJ and Dancing..  I really wasn't around.. I had already moved to Florida when she went into that venture.. 

She made her money.. and when she turned 62... She had enough.. She just handed the business back..  No headaches of building maintenance or the apartment rentals that were above the place..  no having to find a buyer...  Which is how she was able to Lease it in the first place... They owners could not find a buyer and they were tired... It takes a lot of work... even with employees..

And in my opinion.. She got out at the right time....
Was that the Blue Diamond?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Frenchfry on June 07, 2011, 06:18:21 PM
Wow. This may be a new record for incorrect information, even for the Fry.

Landlord is the same!

The man from the coney island you are referring to didn't pay his rent and he was evicted. That is the way leases work. You rent you pay. You don't pay you don't stay. He made the decision to not pay. I made the decision to evict after he fell many months behind. Looking back I should have started the proceedings immediately, but gave him some latitude and I ended up on the wrong side financially on that decision.

I did not have input on the hot dog cart action and did not have a vote.

I still haven't seen your figures on rent that I asked you for, in an effort for you to confirm your initial statement about the rental amount.
Yes the landlord was the same....and yes you reneged on your agreement with the Coney Island proprietor to give him more time....so don't act as though it was his decision when in fact not only was business down but he was fighting the legal proceedings hellbent on incarcerating him. You robbed him blind. The man was down on his luck ans you swooped in and stomped him some more.
You are a despicable human being but I guess that's business.  8*
I would love to hear what nastiness you've contributed to the demise of Cafe Classics.

It seems while being on the council doesn't pay all that well....the benefit to you personally has been especially rewarding.
But that's not what this topic is about...we're discussing business closings.

The irony here is while you seem to enjoy discussing the intricacies of gold...it seems you are the inverse of Midas.
(the greedy king of Phrygia who Dionysus gave the power to turn everything he touched into gold)

Pretty sure everybody understands how voting for the hotdog cart worked....you abstained...the other members voted the way you wanted the vote to go and you reciprocated favorably on issues that they valued.

As for your last question....I wouldn't know what's considered reasonable for that space or any other....I'm merely speculating...which helps further the discussion and perhaps someone somewhere will learn a thing or two......I'm trying to absorb everything like a sponge......and in my best impression of old salt doing his impression of Obama....I'm all ears.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on June 07, 2011, 06:36:26 PM
Yes the landlord was the same....and yes you reneged on your agreement with the Coney Island proprietor to give him more time....so don't act as though it was his decision when in fact not only was business down but he was fighting the legal proceedings hellbent on incarcerating him. You robbed him blind. The man was down on his luck ans you swooped in and stomped him some more.
You are a despicable human being but I guess that's business.  8*
I would love to hear what nastiness you've contributed to the demise of Cafe Classics.

It seems while being on the council doesn't pay all that well....the benefit to you personally has been especially rewarding.
But that's not what this topic is about...we're discussing business closings.

The irony here is while you seem to enjoy discussing the intricacies of gold...it seems you are the inverse of Midas.
(the greedy king of Phrygia who Dionysus gave the power to turn everything he touched into gold)

Pretty sure everybody understands how voting for the hotdog cart worked....you abstained...the other members voted the way you wanted the vote to go and you reciprocated favorably on issues that they valued.

As for your last question....I wouldn't know what's considered reasonable for that space or any other....I'm merely speculating...which helps further the discussion and perhaps someone somewhere will learn a thing or two......I'm trying to absorb everything like a sponge......and in my best impression of old salt doing his impression of Obama....I'm all ears.
How did I reneg on the agreement? How was he robbed? Again you are clueless about what you are speaking about. Perhaps you are not very smart on contracts and how they work. 8* 
He was not down on his luck. He was not fulfilling his contract. How many thousands of dollars is enough to lose? My limit turned out to be ten. I guess I wouldn't expect someone like you to understand.
 
As for the hot dog vote, you again are clueless. Six people came to their own decision on that. I had no input to them nor would I hold such a great deal of influence over them that you feel I do. I wish I did when dealing with certain people. ;) 
 
I didn't figure you would have any input regarding your comment about the rent. Thank you for at least admitting that your comment was baseless and made without any foundation or knowledge of the subject matter. ???
 
I see that you have now resorted to name calling since you have nothing else.You, of course, were ill equipped from the onset, since you have very little knowledge of most of the subjects you attack me about. Have a great evening.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ell on June 07, 2011, 09:33:25 PM


Then Steve's is losing his building... He is no spring chicken... Wonder where is liquor license would go..  I know a certain BBQ guy that needs a license.. He should approach Steve... they are in the same township.. I don't think the license has to stay in the City.. but they do have to stay in the same Township...

The city of Monroe is not in a township.  I'm not 100% sure how license ownership is transferred, but I believe Steve's would have to stay in the city.  Anybody out there know?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Frenchfry on June 08, 2011, 01:02:09 AM
How did I reneg on the agreement? How was he robbed? Again you are clueless about what you are speaking about. Perhaps you are not very smart on contracts and how they work. 8* 
He was not down on his luck. He was not fulfilling his contract. How many thousands of dollars is enough to lose? My limit turned out to be ten. I guess I wouldn't expect someone like you to understand.
 
As for the hot dog vote, you again are clueless. Six people came to their own decision on that. I had no input to them nor would I hold such a great deal of influence over them that you feel I do. I wish I did when dealing with certain people. ;) 
 
I didn't figure you would have any input regarding your comment about the rent. Thank you for at least admitting that your comment was baseless and made without any foundation or knowledge of the subject matter. ???
 
I see that you have now resorted to name calling since you have nothing else.You, of course, were ill equipped from the onset, since you have very little knowledge of most of the subjects you attack me about. Have a great evening.
I merely stated my opinion. It's not about name calling but while you're hiding behind your glass house, you may want to review your posts to see how frequently you've inserted insulting remarks.
Not only to me but when you reply to others as well.
And unnecessarily so.
But I guess if you want to be an ahole then that's your business.

Man....10K?.....2 months behind.....that's 5k a month...seems high to me for that little Zorba's spot....but as you've said many many many times before....I'm clueless.

Now I know how a topic can take twists and turns but let's remember the focus of the topic....business closings
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on June 08, 2011, 01:07:00 AM
I merely stated my opinion. It's not about name calling but while you're hiding behind your glass house, you may want to review your posts to see how frequently you've inserted insulting remarks.
Not only to me but when you reply to others as well.
And unnecessarily so.
But I guess if you want to be an ahole then that's your business.

Man....10K?.....2 months behind.....that's 5k a month...seems high to me for that little Zorba's spot....but as you've said many many many times before....I'm clueless.

Absolutely!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: chick on June 09, 2011, 11:25:16 AM
Seriously...there is just too much testosterone on here somedays.  Just saying...can't we all just play nice?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 09, 2011, 12:14:32 PM
Seriously...there is just too much testosterone on here somedays.  Just saying...can't we all just play nice?


I don't suppose you want to use this for an avatar do you chick 8* 8* 8*

(http://www.medicinecoach.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Testosterone.jpg)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: chick on June 09, 2011, 12:19:51 PM
I don't suppose you want to use this for an avatar do you chick 8* 8* 8*

([url]http://www.medicinecoach.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Testosterone.jpg[/url])


LOL...hahaha.  I think I should!  Some days it's like the boys club on here.  We need to go back to the rules of kindergarten...play nice, be good, respect your peers (even when you have differences of opinion)...yadda, yadda, yadda, I know.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 09, 2011, 12:35:49 PM
LOL...hahaha.  I think I should!  Some days it's like the boys club on here.  We need to go back to the rules of kindergarten...play nice, be good, respect your peers (even when you have differences of opinion)...yadda, yadda, yadda, I know.


Cheer Up (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyv_9fs5YDU#)

I hope you have a wonderful afternoon and evening chick ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: General Buster on June 09, 2011, 01:33:00 PM
thanks BRD! im gonna be whistling that all day now!!!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Chicken on June 09, 2011, 01:35:12 PM
Was that the Blue Diamond?

It was the Blue Diamond when Cousin Thelma had it... She bought it from Milton.. Remember Milton's?  Then she sold it to Frank Bellino.. and then he sold it to these other people... They changed the name to the Lockeroom and then my mother leased it from them for about five or six years I think? 

I don't know how old you are Brian, a lot of people know my mother from various places.. going back to the Dixie.. or other restaurants my father side of the family owned.. or her store she had in Dundee.. or helping Thelma out when she opened the Blue Diamond..   Thelma put a lot of money into that place...

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on June 09, 2011, 02:27:28 PM
Add (probably) Waldenbooks/Borders Express/whatever-its-called at the "Mall of Monroe."

Quote
Just outside the metro area, the Borders Express store in the Mall of Monroe in Monroe would close.


http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20110609/FREE/110609879/borders-group-seeks-to-shut-4-more-local-stores-on-list-of-51-closings# (http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20110609/FREE/110609879/borders-group-seeks-to-shut-4-more-local-stores-on-list-of-51-closings#)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: AtypicalGirl on June 09, 2011, 02:43:24 PM
Ugh! I hope not! I was just in there yesterday.

It's so much nicer for me to go there rather than going into A2 to the HUGE store (unless of course I have to). 

Grrrr.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on June 09, 2011, 03:21:13 PM
Ugh! I hope not! I was just in there yesterday.

It's so much nicer for me to go there rather than going into A2 to the HUGE store (unless of course I have to). 

Grrrr.

*pets his Nook Color and/or Amazon account*
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: chick on June 09, 2011, 04:05:44 PM
Cheer Up ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyv_9fs5YDU#[/url])

I hope you have a wonderful afternoon and evening chick ;) ;) ;)


OK..that was cute!  Thanks...I needed the chuckle.  You have a great evening too BRD.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: AtypicalGirl on June 09, 2011, 04:25:18 PM
*pets his Nook Color and/or Amazon account*


Hey now, nothing can replace the feeling of a bookstore!  ;)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on June 09, 2011, 06:24:14 PM
Hey now, nothing can replace the feeling of a bookstore!  ;)

Not true......doing it in a library replaces it just fine.   ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: AtypicalGirl on June 09, 2011, 06:49:10 PM
Not true......doing it in a library replaces it just fine.   ;D

lmao! I wouldn't know, fuzzy....  :P
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on June 09, 2011, 06:55:42 PM
It's that element of risk, I think you may know what I'm talking about.  LMAO
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ShorTea on June 09, 2011, 06:56:49 PM
Not true......doing it in a library replaces it just fine.   ;D


Hey, that's catchy! Gotta remember that one next time the millage comes up for renewal!  ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on June 09, 2011, 07:02:34 PM
I'd kick in a few bucks to create a "private aisle".   ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: AtypicalGirl on June 09, 2011, 07:17:42 PM
LMAO!! Too funny... 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Billy on June 27, 2011, 05:08:04 PM
Looks like the sports apparel shop on Monroe and Lorain is closed. I don't know but for some reason that's a tough location for businesses to get started.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on June 27, 2011, 06:33:54 PM
Looks like the sports apparel shop on Monroe and Lorain is closed. I don't know but for some reason that's a tough location for businesses to get started.

I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did. I live nearby, and never saw a single customer in there. No surprise, considering he didn't seem to have much merchandise on display.

That location doesn't seem bad; Broadway Market gets a lot of foot and vehicle traffic and it's at the edge of downtown.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on June 27, 2011, 06:37:48 PM
Sports Apparel?

I wonder what kind of market research they did prior to opening their business. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on June 27, 2011, 06:51:54 PM
I dunno, every third person i see in Monroe is wearing a sports jersey of some sort, maybe he figured it would be a moneymaker.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on June 27, 2011, 07:10:16 PM
I've noticed that too, Fly.....have seen a few gals lately with either St. Louis Cardinals or Detroit Tigers field jerseys.  Didn't recognize the name of any of the players though.....Bambi, Angel, Kitty, Cinnamon, and Bunny.  Who knows. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on June 27, 2011, 08:26:54 PM
With names like those, did they happen to have anything else on at the time of, er, observation?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on June 27, 2011, 08:31:20 PM
Only for a brief period Fly.   ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on June 28, 2011, 10:31:26 AM
I noticed the other day that the drycleaners on N. Monroe (next to Victory lube) is now closed.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: T-M-T on June 28, 2011, 10:48:28 AM
I noticed the other day that the drycleaners on N. Monroe (next to Victory lube) is now closed.

That has to be a dying business.  The trend towards casual dress continues and even some of the dressier clothes are now made from fabrics that are easy to care for.  I visit the dry cleaners about 1/10 as often as I did several years ago. 

I always felt sorry for the people working at both of those Martinizing locations because it seemed incredibly hot in there in the Summer with no A/C.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on June 28, 2011, 05:30:24 PM
Same here, T.  My dress shirts are the only items I take there anymore and that is less than a half dozen times a year.

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Billy on July 11, 2011, 04:24:28 PM
I just noticed Steve's tavern had closed this weekend. That place has been in business pretty much my entire life. Is something else going in there?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 11, 2011, 06:30:09 PM
Has Crawford Garage Door sales and service closed too?

I've been going to ask since I saw their building on Telegraph is for sale.

Their website is still active but showing at the address that is for sale...  http://www.crawfordmonroe.com/index.html (http://www.crawfordmonroe.com/index.html)

the building on Telegraph looks empty :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on July 19, 2011, 08:16:06 AM
Borders, including Waldenbooks, is done. http://annarbor.com/business-review/borders-liquidation-chapter-11-ann-arbor-bookstore-chain-borders-group-e-books/ (http://annarbor.com/business-review/borders-liquidation-chapter-11-ann-arbor-bookstore-chain-borders-group-e-books/)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on July 21, 2011, 04:10:26 PM
There's a glimmer of hope that the Waldenbooks in Monroe could be saved as a Books-A-Million.

Quote
If approved by the Creditors Committee (as well as DIP lenders and landlords), the proposal for more than 20 superstores along with small-format stores, would give BAM a significantly broader reach: north to South Portland and Bangor, Maine; closer to New York City in Atlantic City and Waterford, Ct., and west to Monterey, Calif. BAM would even take one store in Borders’s home state: Monroe, Mich.


http://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/bookselling/article/48096-borders-sale-approved.html (http://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/bookselling/article/48096-borders-sale-approved.html)

Odd that the only store worth saving in Michigan would be in Monroe.  With the size of that store, they might need to change the name to "Books-A-Thousand".
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 29, 2011, 01:09:04 PM
We can add Boomer's Diner to the list...

we stopped by there this morning and there are hand lettered signs in each doorway :( :( :(

"Boomers has closed, thank you for your patronage!"
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on August 29, 2011, 06:31:43 PM
Seriously? They were always pretty busy when we stopped in.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Flanders on August 29, 2011, 08:02:50 PM
Out of pure speculation, I bet that rent was HUGE.  They probably leased the space & equipment from Johnny Rockets.

They may have been busy, but they were only open for breakfast & lunch.  But that's just a guess.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ell on August 29, 2011, 08:13:52 PM
I ate lunch there quite often and alway enjoyed the food.  And they always seemed to have a decent crowd.  Maybe it was the rent.  I'll miss 'em.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: PXaiver on August 29, 2011, 09:00:26 PM
I need a new waffle place now.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: sammy on August 29, 2011, 09:21:06 PM
I need a new waffle place now.
Get yourself a waffle iron!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: PXaiver on August 29, 2011, 09:22:59 PM
Get yourself a waffle iron!

I don't eat them enough to actually make them.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Baby Hitler on August 29, 2011, 09:41:46 PM
Ate at Boomer's a few times with the family. Was good food, at a decent price. And the eye candy sure didn't hurt either.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on August 30, 2011, 09:25:04 PM
I hadn't noticed that FB,,,, ;D.

I did find the O's captivating though,
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on September 01, 2011, 06:44:57 PM
President Tuxedo is now on the list.
I don't know when they closed.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Billy on September 02, 2011, 05:02:19 PM
Also the wholesale place located in the old Doby's Dagwood's spot has been closed. The location doesn't seem to have much luck.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on September 03, 2011, 06:13:52 PM
That place was basically just an indoor garage sale. Maybe it's just me, but old vinyl LPs and used toys don't count as wholesale.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on September 21, 2011, 07:28:25 PM
I saw the wedding dress store on S. Custer (past J's) had a sign out. Going out of Business Sale
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: tnweasel on October 12, 2011, 05:10:08 PM
went by Shirley's popcorn downtown the other day....says they will be closed by the end of the month....we really liked all the different popcorns they have....
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 12, 2011, 06:42:08 PM
went by Shirley's popcorn downtown the other day....says they will be closed by the end of the month....we really liked all the different popcorns they have....

I've heard they have great popcorn...   must just not sell enough of it :( :( :(
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monique on October 12, 2011, 07:36:56 PM
went by Shirley's popcorn downtown the other day....says they will be closed by the end of the month....we really liked all the different popcorns they have....
Didn't even know where they were. (Where were they?)

It's too bad little shops can't make it here. I think of the old Emporium and wonder if someone opened a larger space like that and sublet booths if small places like a popcorn shop or a Michigan goods or a used book store could survive.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on October 12, 2011, 09:47:33 PM
went by Shirley's popcorn downtown the other day....says they will be closed by the end of the month....we really liked all the different popcorns they have....
Shirley's is closing but reopening in a different location under a different name and carrying more products. I can't think of the name, but I have it in the store and will post when I get a chance.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on October 12, 2011, 11:15:43 PM
With different owners?  Maybe they would have made it in a different time and a different place? :)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on October 13, 2011, 01:05:30 AM
And downtown empties out.... again.... sigh.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 13, 2011, 06:42:54 AM
Shirley's is closing but reopening in a different location under a different name and carrying more products. I can't think of the name, but I have it in the store and will post when I get a chance.

If I remember correctly from when I first looked Shirley's up there were a few other locations...   seems like down in Ohio probably.  Maybe this one was a "franchised" outlet and the owner here is now dropping the franchise.  They would certainly have to change the name at the very minimum.  I don't know this as fact and it is merely speculation on my part 8* 8* 8*
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 13, 2011, 07:06:58 AM
Didn't even know where they were. (Where were they?)

It's too bad little shops can't make it here. I think of the old Emporium and wonder if someone opened a larger space like that and sublet booths if small places like a popcorn shop or a Michigan goods or a used book store could survive.

The first block of S. Monroe st...   near the cigar shop ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on October 13, 2011, 09:36:08 AM
And downtown empties out.... again.... sigh.
Actually, Shirleys is simply changing their name, expanding to carry new products (Premium Popcorn, Retro Pop, Retro Candies, Gourmet Amish Foods, and Gift Baskets) and relocating to 21 W. First Street, which is directly across the street from the Monroe Evening News' First Street entrance.
They are opening under the name "Susie's Sweets & Eats" in November, but will remain open at Shirley's current location until then.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: tnweasel on October 14, 2011, 12:45:54 PM
thanks for the info Brian...pleased to know we can still get our gourmet popcorn fix.....I think the new location may be better for me as well.....
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on December 01, 2011, 04:10:42 PM
I went to O'Reilly's and noticed that Sharky's looked like it was closed up for good.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monique on January 31, 2012, 06:25:15 PM
Found out today that our Monroe Sears starts their liquidation sale February 10. If you have any returns, they have to be back before then.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on February 04, 2012, 11:30:54 AM
I wonder what kind of specials Sears will have on their tools?

Or will they just remove the high dollar tools to another location?

Hmmmmm.....
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: excelsior on February 04, 2012, 12:12:22 PM
I wonder what kind of specials Sears will have on their tools?

Or will they just remove the high dollar tools to another location?

Hmmmmm.....

I believe it is common practice for retailers to sell the store stock to a company that specializes in store liquidation instead of attempting to run a store closure sale themselves.   All sales are final signs are usually a good indication that a solvent retailer like Sears is not running the operation.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monique on February 04, 2012, 12:52:52 PM
When I was there a few days ago, they already have lots of stuff on clearance. It's worth taking a look and asking. I'm going back to stock up on pillows and pick up a few kitchen items. I'll miss Sears. They had a great photography studio; the folks there really knew how to work with little kids.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on February 05, 2012, 10:54:28 AM
When I was there a few days ago, they already have lots of stuff on clearance. It's worth taking a look and asking. I'm going back to stock up on pillows and pick up a few kitchen items. I'll miss Sears. They had a great photography studio; the folks there really knew how to work with little kids.
The one at K-marts was pretty good with our grandchildren.  Olan Mills I believe.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monique on February 06, 2012, 11:43:56 AM
Nico's Pizza has closed. I had a slice once and it was very good. I know some relatives who are really bummed that their favorite pizza place has closed. Always sad to see an independent go under.

That just leaves 254 other pizza places in Monroe.  ;)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Will Sweat on February 06, 2012, 11:46:58 AM
It is sad that Nico's closed . . . good family . . . good food. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: NewDawn on February 06, 2012, 01:11:43 PM
Nico's was very good pizza. So sad to see them go. They were so much better than Mary Sicco's and Daffy Tiff'"s. The owners at Nico's were awesome...can't say that about the latter two... Horrible .
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: lordfly on February 06, 2012, 08:51:00 PM
Nico's Pizza has closed. I had a slice once and it was very good. I know some relatives who are really bummed that their favorite pizza place has closed. Always sad to see an independent go under.

That just leaves 254 other pizza places in Monroe.  ;)

Aw, that sucks. They had real good grinders.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Crox77 on February 06, 2012, 09:14:27 PM
It is sad that Nico's closed . . . good family . . . good food.
Don't worry,  Mary Sacco is opening a place in there, just so we can have cardboard flavored pizza on every block in Monroe.  Yay! bleh
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monique on February 06, 2012, 09:27:55 PM
I haven't had Tiffany's in years and I don't plan to try Sacco's. I used to love Tiffany's but when they started doing their $5 carryout specials, their ingredients took a nosedive.

I've said it before, Buscemi's is the only 'za for me.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: superspice_10 on February 07, 2012, 10:41:25 AM
I agree . We only order from  Buscemi's or Cottage Inn. CI has a Pulled Pork pizza & I always get it with  the gold sauce .(its Cattlemans Carolina Gold sauce ). Been searching alover for that sauce too. found out its only avalible in the south or a gallon jug from Gordens food service.
 That Pizza is so good I have to stop myself from eating the whole thing .  8* 8*
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on February 07, 2012, 11:06:50 AM
There's an article in the MEN today about the liquidation sale at Sears:

http://www.monroenews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120206/NEWS01/702069979 (http://www.monroenews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120206/NEWS01/702069979)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Frenchfry on February 07, 2012, 12:42:42 PM
There's an article in the MEN today about the liquidation sale at Sears:

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120206/NEWS01/702069979[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120206/NEWS01/702069979[/url])
My wife overheard someone that works there say that Sears continues trucking in the merchandise....and stuff they normally don't sell.

I've not found many deals in the going out of business game...nothing but hype but it fools lots of people into thinking they're getting a bargain.

Now if they were liquidating via an auction.....one never knows what great deals might appear...but it's way too easy to overpay in that scenario as well.

One has to hope the attendees are as astute as they are.
Title: Does anyone know if Mancino's is closing or just moving again?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 24, 2012, 07:45:41 PM
We made a rare outing to the Mall (of Monroe) today...

I was looking around while my wife was shopping and I saw a few signs at Power Play Music that they were moving into the current Mancino's location...

they even had a photo of the building with their sign photoshopped on the front of the building...

I wondered maybe if it was going to be music and pizza 8* 8* 8*

When we drove past Mancino's later the lights (including the neon OPEN sign) were all on :-\ :-\ :-\

I just checked Power Play's website and it's on there too about them moving on the 15th of March...    http://www.powerplaymusic.com/ (http://www.powerplaymusic.com/)

That mall shore is gettin' empty :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Frenchfry on February 24, 2012, 09:45:39 PM
Did anyone find any deals at the Sears going out of business sale?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: AtypicalGirl on February 28, 2012, 03:01:15 PM
Did anyone find any deals at the Sears going out of business sale?

I went in there to see what kind of deals they had on their towels. The towels were originally $7.99 (not including tax) and their great deal brought them down to $7.41 out the door!  8* 8* 8* 

I did find a cute pair of boots, though. They were originally $39.99 and I paid about $14.00 for them. I was pretty happy with that. :)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: monroemuskrat on March 13, 2012, 09:13:51 PM
I heard that Schottenheimer's was closing -the owners supposedly lost the business.  Is this a rumor?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ducksoup on March 13, 2012, 11:09:40 PM
I heard that Schottenheimer's was closing -the owners supposedly lost the business.  Is this a rumor?

If you mean where Monroe Diner used to be, yeah, closed a couple weeks that I noticed no cars there.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: MM1 on March 25, 2012, 09:34:10 AM
RE:  SCHOTTENHEIMER'S

We saw a sign on their front door on what had to be a day or so after they closed.  It said they were relocating and to stay updated on their FB Page. 

Does anyone know what the plan is?  Or was it just a way to step out while avoiding the appearance of a business failure?

Per FB Page February 17:To All our Patrons:
We are in the process of Moving to a new location. Please keep checking our page for further updates...Thank You for your patience!

Per FB Page February 19:
Our relocating venture is still in progress...Please stay tuned!!!


We were not avid customers, but we did like going their on occasion.  I loved their Leprechaun Burgers.  They were little burgers served on pretzel buns and were great!  And they had a Sampler Plate that we really enjoyed as well. 

Does anyone know anything?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on March 25, 2012, 09:45:51 AM
RE:  SCHOTTENHEIMER'S

We saw a sign on their front door on what had to be a day or so after they closed.  It said they were relocating and to stay updated on their FB Page. 

Does anyone know what the plan is?  Or was it just a way to step out while avoiding the appearance of a business failure?

Per FB Page February 17:To All our Patrons:
We are in the process of Moving to a new location. Please keep checking our page for further updates...Thank You for your patience!

Per FB Page February 19:
Our relocating venture is still in progress...Please stay tuned!!!


We were not avid customers, but we did like going their on occasion.  I loved their Leprechaun Burgers.  They were little burgers served on pretzel buns and were great!  And they had a Sampler Plate that we really enjoyed as well. 

Does anyone know anything?

That seems like a long time but it's only a little over a month...

Maybe they're the ones doing all the work in the Riverbend Commons...

and "No I don't know that as a fact"...   actually a little tongue in cheek because it would be a much larger and more expensive lease anyway...

Also saw that the new rib place in the old Dominic's on S. Dixie in the "old" Kroger Plaza is making some progress...

they still have all the mexican restaurant signs up although they do have a banner over one sign that says something and yesterday I noticed they have one of those trailer signs set up that says something about them "Coming Soon"!!!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Skittelroo on April 03, 2012, 06:38:11 PM
According to The Indepent's Facebook page, the Coffee Beanery in Dundee has closed.  I'm sad because I really enjoyed an occasional mocha from there :(
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: MM1 on April 03, 2012, 07:18:37 PM
I hate to hear of coffee houses closing.  Pretty soon all there will be is Panera and Tim Hortons for a "Specialty" coffee.  yuk.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Skittelroo on April 03, 2012, 07:44:30 PM
I hate to hear of coffee houses closing.  Pretty soon all there will be is Panera and Tim Hortons for a "Specialty" coffee.  yuk.

I think it's a conspiracy to force me to lose a few pounds
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on April 04, 2012, 07:48:56 AM
Coffee Beanery isn't any better than Tim Hortons.  With any luck, someone will take over the building.  With decent signage so you could actually see it coming out of Cabelas something should do well there.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Skittelroo on April 04, 2012, 08:09:10 AM
Coffee Beanery isn't any better than Tim Hortons.  With any luck, someone will take over the building.  With decent signage so you could actually see it coming out of Cabelas something should do well there.

I liked it because it was close to home.   I agree that we need better signs for all the businesses here.   Someone not familiar isn't easily able to patronize what they don't know is available.   

Even though I don't go often, I found the pie shop (right behind Arby's) to be very good.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monique on April 04, 2012, 08:25:29 AM
I enjoy Coffee Beanery's coffee, and I like Tim Horton's ok, too. I might give a slight edge to CB's coffee just because that's their main focus, and each time I've had it it's been nice and fresh and rich tasting. Haven't been to the one in Dundee, just making a general comment about the chain.

Seems like the location in Dundee would've been ideal for such a place. Wonder what did them in?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Skittelroo on June 20, 2012, 07:20:28 PM
The Hallmark store on Telegraph closed earlier this month.  Fashion Bug in the same complex will be closing (date unknown).
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2012/jun/20/clothing-store-card-shop-shuttered/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2012/jun/20/clothing-store-card-shop-shuttered/)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ShorTea on June 20, 2012, 07:34:40 PM
The Hallmark store on Telegraph closed earlier this month.  Fashion Bug in the same complex will be closing (date unknown).
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2012/jun/20/clothing-store-card-shop-shuttered/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2012/jun/20/clothing-store-card-shop-shuttered/[/url])


Makes me sad to see two more places go, but there are so many businesses out there to pick from, and the more I think about things the less stuff I want to buy.  :(
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Skittelroo on June 20, 2012, 08:17:02 PM
Makes me sad to see two more places go, but there are so many businesses out there to pick from, and the more I think about things the less stuff I want to buy.  :(

It bothers me to see so many empty businesses wherever we go.

 Seems I do most of my "shopping" at flea markets and yard sales now.   Finding a "like new" item for $1 can be a thrill if it is useful.  One year I outfitted a entire apartment for a relative that way and the most I paid for an item was $10. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: MM1 on June 20, 2012, 08:31:31 PM
I think Kohls & TG Maxx gave Fashion Bug a run for the money, and they won.


I agree there are way too many empty storefronts in Monroe. (Outlet comes to mind among many others)


Oh well. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ShorTea on June 20, 2012, 09:06:27 PM
It bothers me to see so many empty businesses wherever we go.

 One year I outfitted a entire apartment for a relative that way and the most I paid for an item was $10.

That's the best way to do things, then if something fantastic at a bargain comes along you have the money to get it and enjoy yourself!!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on June 21, 2012, 09:28:26 AM
I'm actually surprised a few "Mall" stores haven't looked at this area - Telegraph/Front...   Strip Mall rent vs Mall rent should be more economical - and you can actually drive through the area without traffic jams.   I detest driving N. Telegraph past Meirers with the one lane traffic.
 
Hopefully the economy improvements we hear about will start to happen around here soon.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: MM1 on June 21, 2012, 10:08:51 AM

I know of an organization that was interested in acquiring the old Farmer Jacks bldg, but the  overwhelming legal red-tape involved (because of issues with the prior buidling owners) caused interest to ultimately fade.

It's such a nice shopping area on that corner of Front/Telegraph that I can't understand why someone can't make it work. 


But, then again . . . . The Outlet sits empty and literally disintegrates more and more with every month. 

Such a waste.  :-\   



Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on June 21, 2012, 02:58:00 PM
Curious if Farmer Jack or their holding company still owns all the property?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on June 22, 2012, 09:41:19 AM
Curious if Farmer Jack or their holding company still owns all the property?
From my understanding, the entire complex was recently purchased in a foreclosure/reorganization from an investor out of Toledo.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 23, 2012, 07:05:25 AM
I know of an organization that was interested in acquiring the old Farmer Jacks bldg, but the  overwhelming legal red-tape involved (because of issues with the prior buidling owners) caused interest to ultimately fade.

It's such a nice shopping area on that corner of Front/Telegraph that I can't understand why someone can't make it work. 


But, then again . . . . The Outlet sits empty and literally disintegrates more and more with every month. 

Such a waste.  :-\

When we first moved here someone pointed out to me that at one point that had been the site of the local dump 8* 8* 8*

Maybe too many of the locals still remember that :) :) :)

Not sure what you mean by "the Outlet"...

If you're talking the complexes out on Laplaisance road, they are far from "empty"...

certainly below capacity but not empty....

The Harwood family has purchased the two northern "complexes" and is slowly revitalizing them. 

I was out there this week and Joe Bryant was working in the parking lot, filling potholes it looked like. 

From what I can see the original "outlet mall" is overloaded...   

with fireworks stores...   plus there are a couple of "tent" outlets for fireworks at the same intersection!!!

On one of your frequent trips to Catawba maybe you should get off the freeway and actually drive through the parking lots and past the storefronts...

Apparently it's hard to see what's actually happening when you're just zooming by 8* 8* 8*
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on June 23, 2012, 11:53:41 AM
Heard that Skateway is closing again.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on June 23, 2012, 12:00:36 PM
Went by Pilot on Nadeau Rd. and saw what looked like Arby's was being remodeled. Found out later that they was going out and Taco Bell was coming in.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Frenchfry on June 23, 2012, 12:15:03 PM
Went by Pilot on Nadeau Rd. and saw what looked like Arby's was being remodeled. Found out later that they was going out and Taco Bell was coming in.
Yep, I recently posted about it in the Salvation Army thread:
Arby's in the Pilot on Nadeau Rd has been closed for the remodel and reopening as a Taco Bell.

Some former employees were retained....some were offered employment at other locations to avoid paying unemployment.

Those chosen as managers had to travel to Missouri for training and the regular employees had to go to Findley for their training....I'm told on their dime but that doesn't sound right to me.

http://monroetalks.com/forum/index.php?topic=26311.0 (http://monroetalks.com/forum/index.php?topic=26311.0)

I've mentioned it prior to that as well...but not sure which thread...the search function didn't yield any results for "arby's"....maybe the admin removed my prior post.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on June 23, 2012, 12:16:44 PM
Ok FF, I must have missed it. I haven't really read the SA thread much.
 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Frenchfry on June 23, 2012, 12:27:35 PM
Just adding to it...I wonder how the lack of a drive-thru affected that Arby's location or if it will have any bearing on the success of the new Taco Bell.

I recall way back when that Arby's (Pilot location) wouldn't honor Arby's coupons.

It's possible the new Taco Bell there won't follow the National ad campaigns either.

I suspect the problem there wasn't the brand of restaurant...but the decisions of the management...in this case the Pilot Corporation.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on June 23, 2012, 12:32:16 PM
If anything, after Arby's was to leave, I was thinking it would become a Subway like on N. Dixie.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: rwwjr on July 09, 2012, 03:33:48 PM
Does anyone know about Don's Car Wash on N Monroe St?  They have been closed for at least 2 weeks.  Is this permanent?  Always did a lot of business with them.  So sad
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on March 05, 2013, 07:18:40 PM
Heard that Skateway is closing again.


And now it's for sale 'again'...

is roller skating a dying fad...  or is it just Monroe?

http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/16957884/925-S-Telegraph-Road-Monroe-MI/ (http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/16957884/925-S-Telegraph-Road-Monroe-MI/)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on March 05, 2013, 07:42:25 PM
I saw that Jim's Party Store (Cole & Vivian) is closed.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on March 06, 2013, 07:26:06 AM
I saw that Jim's Party Store (Cole & Vivian) is closed.
That's interesting...  you don't see to many party stores closing...  but when you do it seems like everyone that goes into the spot has a rough time making it.  I'm thinking of the little store and sometimes pizza shop out on Ida West road about a mile from US 23.  Not sure if it was the same people or not but Jim's has been there a long time!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Skittelroo on March 06, 2013, 07:41:37 AM
That's interesting...  you don't see to many party stores closing...  but when you do it seems like everyone that goes into the spot has a rough time making it.  I'm thinking of the little store and sometimes pizza shop out on Ida West road about a mile from US 23.  Not sure if it was the same people or not but Jim's has been there a long time!

We have talked about that Ida West place, too.   Wondered if it was the location?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: eriemermaid on March 06, 2013, 07:42:34 AM
I see Rivalrey's in Erie is closed up too.  I don't know when that happened, but this is the first I noticed it.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: eriemermaid on March 06, 2013, 07:43:36 AM
That's interesting...  you don't see to many party stores closing...  but when you do it seems like everyone that goes into the spot has a rough time making it.  I'm thinking of the little store and sometimes pizza shop out on Ida West road about a mile from US 23.  Not sure if it was the same people or not but Jim's has been there a long time!

Is this the one that used to be called Pozy's Groceries?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on March 06, 2013, 08:07:27 AM
Is this the one that used to be called Pozy's Groceries?

Seems like that is one of the many, many names I recall there.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Will Sweat on March 06, 2013, 08:25:07 AM
I saw that Jim's Party Store (Cole & Vivian) is closed.


Sad.  I have great memories of getting "junk food" there when I was a kid and used to ride my bike to the MGCC to work as a golf caddy on the weekends.  :-( . .
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: FritzTheKat on March 06, 2013, 08:37:35 AM
Didn't it used to be  Rosati's ?
That's how far back I go...
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monique on March 06, 2013, 08:56:03 AM
I don't recall any of the names of that little market, but it's been open for as long as I can remember. I think they had a break in or two in recent years. Maybe these owners thought it wasn't worth it. I bet a new owner opens it back up pretty quickly. It's a handy spot for lots of folks.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on March 06, 2013, 09:07:42 AM
I don't recall any of the names of that little market, but it's been open for as long as I can remember. I think they had a break in or two in recent years. Maybe these owners thought it wasn't worth it. I bet a new owner opens it back up pretty quickly. It's a handy spot for lots of folks.

Seems like there was maybe even an armed robbery there not too long ago...  one of the gals my wife works with lives right down the road and I remember hearing something on the scanner going on right there and telling her to text ***!!!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: arpydave on March 06, 2013, 05:42:21 PM
We have talked about that Ida West place, too.   Wondered if it was the location?

Never the location, as it has a lot of traffic.

The owners in the '90s got tired of Oil trader contracts and changing fuel tank rules and pulled the tanks and never suffered.  Around that time installed the pizza ovens He was a skilled butcher.  They burned out and retired to Florida. 8)

Subsequent owners didn't seem to be as skilled at running a business :(
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on March 06, 2013, 07:10:44 PM
They're open now. I have been meaning to stop in.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on March 07, 2013, 06:00:53 AM
They're open now. I have been meaning to stop in.

We went by there a couple of weeks ago and after we were past I thought maybe they were open.  Then when we were on the return trip we ended up going a different direction. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on March 07, 2013, 10:07:15 AM
We have talked about that Ida West place, too.   Wondered if it was the location?
The original owners of the Ida near 23 store - retired and moved,
no one else has been able to make it, probably due to the population in the area, and I'm not sure if the hey-days were when the Strand Corporation was operating - not sure if anything is in the complex now. 
It is unusual for party stores to close - usually a sign of bad customer service.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on March 07, 2013, 10:16:04 AM
The original owners of the Ida near 23 store - retired and moved,
no one else has been able to make it, probably due to the population in the area, and I'm not sure if the hey-days were when the Strand Corporation was operating - not sure if anything is in the complex now. 
It is unusual for party stores to close - usually a sign of bad customer service.

The little bar across from the Strand plant has been closed on and off too so maybe you're onto something Prof...
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: arpydave on March 07, 2013, 12:21:53 PM
The original owners of the Ida near 23 store - retired and moved,
no one else has been able to make it, probably due to the population in the area, and I'm not sure if the hey-days were when the Strand Corporation was operating - not sure if anything is in the complex now. 
It is unusual for party stores to close - usually a sign of bad customer service.

The subsequent failures had nothing to do with the plant closing, it was because they failed to stock their shelves with items people would need on short notice rather than drive to Dundee Foodtown/Kroger.  If you need cooking oil or Pam or paper plates, why go there other than the beer/pizza?  And yes, service was also lacking.

Any convenient store is just that, convenient.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: jbs49238 on March 11, 2013, 07:24:24 AM
It was convenient when it was a gas station.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monique on March 11, 2013, 09:58:40 AM
I just found out that my favorite and most trusted mechanic, Randy at Import Auto, has gone out of business.  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on March 11, 2013, 10:58:59 AM
Been gone. i tried going there 4 months ago and
he was gone.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monique on March 11, 2013, 11:12:28 AM
Been gone. i tried going there 4 months ago and
he was gone.
I didn't realize it had been so long since we were there, but the guy at Custer Glass said he's been gone 6 months.

Geeze, I really depended on him. For years. Anyone know another awesome and trustworthy mechanic?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on March 11, 2013, 11:42:05 AM
I have had good luck at Paul's Automotive for use after my warranty runs out for just general mechanic work.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Billy on March 11, 2013, 12:09:41 PM
Kevin Schlosser at Schall Automotive out on N. Monroe where Nadeau dead ends into it (former Harwood Buick). Best in town in my opinion.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on March 11, 2013, 04:29:24 PM
Actually Paul's fixed my old Mercedes after I realized Randy was no longer there.

Mav
Title: Sensational Beginnings closing soon?
Post by: BigRedDog on March 26, 2013, 07:53:34 PM
This is yet another 'rumor' I heard tonight.  I haven't read it or heard it anywhere else and hope it isn't true.  Anyone have any more info to share?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: tnweasel on April 24, 2013, 06:25:05 PM
sad to see the Monroe Street Grill is closing.....we always enjoyed the food and the atmosphere of the building....
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: MM1 on April 24, 2013, 08:02:55 PM
I was VERY sad to see that Monroe Street Grille is closing in tonight's paper.  It is/was my favorite weekend breakfast spot. 

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monique on April 24, 2013, 08:34:06 PM
Rancid?

 ;D ;D ;D

Seriously, they had good food, but we never went. It just wasn't high on our list of places to go. I guess lots of people felt the same. Sad to see them go, though.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on April 24, 2013, 08:58:40 PM
Thanks for that huge chuckle!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: MM1 on April 24, 2013, 09:14:47 PM
Who are you kidding Fuzz.  You're sitting there with a front row seat waiting/hoping for a show. 



Not tonight.   ;D ;D ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on April 25, 2013, 07:24:03 AM
I even melted some extra butter for my popcorn and changed into my PJ's to watch this, DAMN!

Even thought of opening up a temporary Puddin' Pit with Charlie Sheen, Rancid, Michigan Bar and Grille, and opposing Gun Control banners all around it.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: MM1 on April 25, 2013, 08:23:47 AM
 

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You really ARE mischievous!    ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on April 25, 2013, 03:36:53 PM
Nothin beats a cat fight in a cold rain!   ;)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: MM1 on April 25, 2013, 07:28:25 PM
Men.....  8*

Seinfeld - Elaine understands cat fights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Uc1Lr4x0W4#)


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on April 25, 2013, 09:15:58 PM
Damn Right!   ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: supermom on April 26, 2013, 05:10:21 PM
Locally owned businesses can only survive if the community supports them.
FYI: When you purchase something from a local mom and pop store, 75% of your purchase price goes back into your community.
When you purchase something from a big box store, or chain store, only 10% goes back into your community.
Something to think about!!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on September 03, 2013, 01:42:48 PM
I noticed 7 West, on the corner of Telegraph & 7th is now closed.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on July 15, 2014, 05:38:18 PM
Got notice that Kims Kountry Smokehouse - in LaSalle on Telegraph - the owners have decided to "retire"...   
The Kids are supposed to be renovating the location and changing to a day care.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on July 16, 2014, 08:36:59 AM
The Wendy's on LaPlaisance has closed in the past couple of weeks. That stretch has been a dead zone for some reason.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Flanders on July 16, 2014, 09:27:57 AM
I will never understand why LaPlaisance is such a dead zone.  Great access to 75 and plenty of room.

I will also never understand why the outlets went bust.  Every time we go to Howell or Birch Run the place is packed.  I can't recall, but maybe the stores in our outlet mall were not quality? 

It was nice to see Ms Knabusch get her marina up and running with a nice store in that area.  I just wonder if the boating industry will ever return...
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 16, 2014, 09:59:31 AM
Don't know why either (outlets went bust).  The ones in Howell are expanding.  All thats left basically are the fireworks outlets and a few others.  The secondary group is vacant for the most part and falling apart.

I think (conjecture) that it might be attributable to the Internet.  All the 'outlet' stores sell online.



Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 16, 2014, 11:18:03 AM
The Wendy's on LaPlaisance has closed in the past couple of weeks. That stretch has been a dead zone for some reason.

I wonder how long before someone opens up a fireworks' store in that building!

The Wendy's on LaPlaisance has closed in the past couple of weeks. That stretch has been a dead zone for some reason.

Actually the fireworks' business has been booming ;) ;) ;)

Did you see the article in the MN just after the 4th where the guys bought their fireworks at the tent setup on the corner of Albain and then just set them off out in the parking lot aimed right back into the tent?

That might be a good argument for not allowing tent sales!!!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 16, 2014, 11:30:27 AM
Don't know why either (outlets went bust).  The ones in Howell are expanding.  All thats left basically are the fireworks outlets and a few others.  The secondary group is vacant for the most part and falling apart.

I think (conjecture) that it might be attributable to the Internet.  All the 'outlet' stores sell online.

But so do the stores at the Birch Run outlets...   doesn't seem to be a rhyme or reason to it...

Back in the 80s outlet malls like the ones here in Michigan jumped up all along 75 clear to Florida...

some have thrived and some look just like 'our oulets' on Laplaisance...

I don't understand the fast food places out there closing either.  I always prefer Wendy's and then BK and the golden arches are dead last!  But the clown is still there (for now anyway).  There's really no other fast food between there and Toledo and even at Alexis you have to drive a lot more to get to the fast food places. 

I'm thinking maybe they just saw all the 'coming soon' signs on restaurants around town and figured they didn't stand a chance!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on July 16, 2014, 11:39:32 AM
Birch Run is booming, as is the newer outlet mall in Monroe, Ohio, between Dayton and Cincinnati!
Of course there is a Jack in the Box restaurant near there too...may just be the real draw!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on July 16, 2014, 11:59:33 AM
Birch Run is booming, as is the newer outlet mall in Monroe, Ohio, between Dayton and Cincinnati!
Of course there is a Jack in the Box restaurant near there too...may just be the real draw!

Remember when Monroe had a Jack in the Box?

Best tacos ever......

Man how we have fallen.....
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on July 16, 2014, 01:14:17 PM
Remember when Monroe had a Jack in the Box?

Best tacos ever......

Man how we have fallen.....
Everywhere lost a JITB...and this one near Cincinnati is fairly new...maybe they will start opening more East of the Mississippi?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: rwwjr on July 16, 2014, 06:34:03 PM
I noticed that the northern parking lot of the outlet mall has been repaved and remarked?  Why?  Who knows.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 16, 2014, 09:06:39 PM
Remember when Monroe had a Jack in the Box?

Best tacos ever......

Man how we have fallen.....

We used to llike 'Hot-n-Now' in both Adrian and Monroe, Best chili dogs and Olive Burgers around and cheap.  Both gone.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 16, 2014, 09:07:45 PM
Taco's give me flatus.

Taco Bell plain sucks.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on July 16, 2014, 10:18:26 PM
I wonder how long before someone opens up a fireworks' store in that building!


Drive through dispensary
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on July 16, 2014, 10:20:55 PM
When I go to NC to visit my daughter I always go to Jack's when I get to choose. Everyone thinks I'm nuts. I used to be able to eat 12 for lunch in High school. Munchies plus Jack in The Box tacos. The perfect meal.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 17, 2014, 07:06:01 AM
Drive through dispensary

There you go...

creative marketing and it's 'out in the township'!!!

And, you already had all the patients driving up 75 to 'the pain clinic' ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on July 17, 2014, 07:29:35 AM
When I go to NC to visit my daughter I always go to Jack's when I get to choose. Everyone thinks I'm nuts. I used to be able to eat 12 for lunch in High school. Munchies plus Jack in The Box tacos. The perfect meal.

I hit the one in Nashville once in awhile....  for old times sake.

I find the half life of a Taco is pretty short though.

You have to drive fast to get them back to the hotel.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 17, 2014, 09:03:37 AM
I hit the one in Nashville once in awhile....  for old times sake.

I find the half life of a Taco is pretty short though.

You have to drive fast to get them back to the hotel.

The other 'half life' lasts all night.............. ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 17, 2014, 09:39:14 AM
We used to llike 'Hot-n-Now' in both Adrian and Monroe, Best chili dogs and Olive Burgers around and cheap.  Both gone.

Loved their Olive Burgers!!!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Debimark on July 17, 2014, 02:09:40 PM
What was the name of the Restaurant that was located Downtown a number of years ago? This was a very nice place on East Front, with downstairs dining that had a patio/concourse over the river. I was younger then, but always recall the experience fondly.

I asked a trusted adviser/banker a few years ago about the possibility of purchasing/refurbishing the Edison Building, and trying to get a Mongolian Barbecue or other restaurant in that location from which to bring the Loranger Square area alive. My advice was to forget about it because the red tape would be insurmountable, and far too many hoops to jump through. My enthusiasm was bridled, but I understood.

I do see some refurbishing of the Edison Building, but the Lotus Fountain is sadly being let rot. Sad to see such a beautiful fountain empty and peeling.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 17, 2014, 02:42:49 PM
What was the name of the Restaurant that was located Downtown a number of years ago? This was a very nice place on East Front, with downstairs dining that had a patio/concourse over the river. I was younger then, but always recall the experience fondly.

I asked a trusted adviser/banker a few years ago about the possibility of purchasing/refurbishing the Edison Building, and trying to get a Mongolian Barbecue or other restaurant in that location from which to bring the Loranger Square area alive. My advice was to forget about it because the red tape would be insurmountable, and far too many hoops to jump through. My enthusiasm was bridled, but I understood.

I do see some refurbishing of the Edison Building, but the Lotus Fountain is sadly being let rot. Sad to see such a beautiful fountain empty and peeling.

I believe you're referring to Kennons' Dm... 

I don't think anything is ever insurmountable but I do think your trusted banker/adviser gave you some good advice!

Very few things are insurmountable if your pockets are deep enough but I can see the problems there taking some very deep pockets to take care of!  And then you'd hear the 'no parking' complaint all day too ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Debimark on July 17, 2014, 02:55:48 PM
Indeed, the insurmountable obstacle focused on parking. The Edison Building only has 3 or 4 spaces inclusive. All else is a City/Private lot that resides beside and behind the building.

Kennon's, indeed. Thank you for the reminder.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on July 17, 2014, 03:53:27 PM
I also looked at buying the Edison building. I love its architecture.
Biggest problem and the one that ended it for me was that the heating boiler was 100% electric. Not an issue when Edison owned the building but it would eat anyone else alive if they heated with electric.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Billy on July 17, 2014, 04:38:11 PM
And before it was Kennon's it was Haeger's.

You and I talked about that a few years ago BRD. It was a little to much for Monroe at the time.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ybnrmal on July 18, 2014, 02:27:05 PM
Loved their Olive Burgers!!!
Checkers still has the olive burger. Hubby and I go and get it and a baconzilla and share. yummy!!!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Billy on August 05, 2014, 08:52:53 PM
I heard tonight that the Big Boy on Dixie Hwy. has been sold and all the workers have been told their services were no longer needed. My source wasn't sure if that meant that they were closing or just changing hands.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: rwwjr on August 05, 2014, 10:53:38 PM
Indeed, the insurmountable obstacle focused on parking. The Edison Building only has 3 or 4 spaces inclusive. All else is a City/Private lot that resides beside and behind the building.

Kennon's, indeed. Thank you for the reminder.
From talking to business people who have wanted to do business in the city, the biggest insurmountable obstacle is the city itself, specifically the building dept.  So many obstacles they come up with.  I spoke with an owner who bought property in the city, and wanted to move his business into the city. He had so many hoops to jump through, it cost him thousands of extra dollars  He said if he had known, he would have stayed where he was.  He admitted he did not investigate, just never assumed the city was so anti business
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on August 05, 2014, 11:01:32 PM
From talking to business people who have wanted to do business in the city, the biggest insurmountable obstacle is the city itself, specifically the building dept.  So many obstacles they come up with.  I spoke with an owner who bought property in the city, and wanted to move his business into the city. He had so many hoops to jump through, it cost him thousands of extra dollars  He said if he had known, he would have stayed where he was.  He admitted he did not investigate, just never assumed the city was so anti business
Many people wanting to buy a property don't hire a qualified architect that knows the building codes as well as fire codes. All of the building codes are the same throughout the state, no matter which city or township.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 05, 2014, 11:22:57 PM
I also looked at buying the Edison building. I love its architecture.
Biggest problem and the one that ended it for me was that the heating boiler was 100% electric. Not an issue when Edison owned the building but it would eat anyone else alive if they heated with electric.

When we bought the farm many years ago we looked at a very nice place with acreage but the house was all electric and it nixed that.

Knowing what I do today, I should have bought it and just installed a biomass heating system but I didn't know at the time.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on August 07, 2014, 03:20:31 PM
When did Wendy's on Laplaisance Rd. close?
I could have sworn I saw it open before July 4th when the fireworks stores and tent were open out that way.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: rwwjr on October 03, 2014, 10:44:43 AM
Hate to say this, cause I only heard rumor.  Please someone tell me it isnt so.  I heard Big Blues was closed by health dept.  Does anyone know if this is true or not?  Have had very good food and service there, so not trying to cause problems  Just wondering if fact or not.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: pkrbkr on October 03, 2014, 11:23:15 AM
Definitely NOT TRUE !!! A disgruntled POS former employee started posting blatant & disgusting lies about this restaurant and its owner which have been shared quite a bit through "social media". Big Blues & its sister restaurant Rocky's Eatery are open for business & continue to serve great food. As a matter of fact, Big Blues recently had an inspection by the health dept (as do all restaurants on a periodic basis) and passed with flying colors just as they always have.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on October 03, 2014, 06:53:53 PM
I noticed that the Dollar and above store on the corner of Telegraph and Lorain has a sign in the window that reads the store is closing....
I wonder if this time it is true....
I remember he had a store closing sign up around this time last year and the store wasn't closed.
Hmmmm?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: rwwjr on October 04, 2014, 12:04:16 PM
pkrbkr, thank you for the info.  Like I say was just checking for confirmation one way or the other.  Will be happy to go there again then!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on November 02, 2014, 11:06:24 PM
I noticed that the used clothing store next to Sally's and Midtown Restaurant is now closed.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 03, 2014, 07:45:55 AM
I noticed that the used clothing store next to Sally's and Midtown Restaurant is now closed.

Probably with all those new 'high paying' jobs that have been created all over Monroe County the economy has gotten so good that people are just buying NEW again.  I always liked that little store too...   went in a few times with my wife and youngest daughter.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 03, 2014, 07:55:35 AM
Probably with all those new 'high paying' jobs that have been created all over Monroe County the economy has gotten so good that people are just buying NEW again.  I always liked that little store too...   went in a few times with my wife and youngest daughter.

Ya mean the economy that Zorn/Richardville jumpstarted with higher taxes and the smooth roads that Zorn championed so his constitutients would havee a smooth ride to work.  I find it intrsting that to get to the few newely paved roads, on still has to drive on crap roads...so whats the point anyway??
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on November 03, 2014, 08:56:10 AM
I'm kind of surprised that the LET didn't buy the closed Car Wash and expanded the terminal.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on November 03, 2014, 09:26:04 AM
The city didn't want to lose that revenue property - so probably behind the scenes didn't encourage such.   

Is it going to be a car wash or will it be torn down and a new business put there?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Flanders on November 03, 2014, 10:05:03 AM
So that car wash sold?  I drove by not too long ago and it still had a For Sale sign.

What purpose does that LET terminal serve?  Did it need to be a new building on a piece of great investment property?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 03, 2014, 10:07:00 AM
Ya mean the economy that Zorn/Richardville jumpstarted with higher taxes and the smooth roads that Zorn championed so his constitutients would havee a smooth ride to work.  I find it intrsting that to get to the few newely paved roads, on still has to drive on crap roads...so whats the point anyway??

LOL...   yes...   'that' economy 8* 8* 8*
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 03, 2014, 11:46:28 AM
The city didn't want to lose that revenue property - so probably behind the scenes didn't encourage such.   

Is it going to be a car wash or will it be torn down and a new business put there?

If a carwash depended on m to survive, they would go boke.  Haven't been ro a car wash in decades
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 03, 2014, 11:52:28 AM
If a carwash depended on m to survive, they would go boke.  Haven't been ro a car wash in decades

I've never washed a car there but it looks like everything there has pretty much seen better days...

MB&T is showing as the 'owner' on the tax rolls so I assume they must have foreclosed on the property.

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Flanders on November 03, 2014, 12:31:08 PM
Yeah I thought the car wash was still for sale BRD.  I think it's been through 2 auctions and must have not made the reserve each time..

Self-Serve Coin Ops are on their way out.  It costs nearly as much as an automatic if you go beyond soap/rinse spray.

But an enterprising person would simply remove the coin-op and staff each wash bay with wet suit / bikini clad ladies....  Brilliant!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 03, 2014, 01:33:50 PM
Yeah I thought the car wash was still for sale BRD.  I think it's been through 2 auctions and must have not made the reserve each time..

Self-Serve Coin Ops are on their way out.  It costs nearly as much as an automatic if you go beyond soap/rinse spray.

But an enterprising person would simply remove the coin-op and staff each wash bay with wet suit / bikini clad ladies....  Brilliant!

Especially this time of year...

I'm sure 'the fuzz' would have the cleanest car in town ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on November 03, 2014, 02:31:21 PM
Reminds me of the one in Greensboro NC,  it was inside a larger garage... 
and they had lots of fun sudsing up your windows... 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Flanders on November 03, 2014, 03:11:25 PM
LOL!  Exactly! 

I really wasn't joking, everything is already in place for this business re-branding and transformation.  Doesn't have to be 18+, although it would be interesting. Just provide a decent hand wash in an efficient layout, such as a former coin op wash.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 03, 2014, 05:10:44 PM
Yeah I thought the car wash was still for sale BRD.  I think it's been through 2 auctions and must have not made the reserve each time..

Self-Serve Coin Ops are on their way out.  It costs nearly as much as an automatic if you go beyond soap/rinse spray.

But an enterprising person would simply remove the coin-op and staff each wash bay with wet suit / bikini clad ladies....  Brilliant!


How about using one of the bays for a 'drive thru' coffe shop with bikini baristas ??? ??? ???

(http://bikini-baristas.com/bikini-baristas/bikini-barista-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on November 03, 2014, 09:05:35 PM
Heard some scuttlebutt on facebook that Target will be closing.

Can anyone confirm this?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on November 03, 2014, 09:16:53 PM
Heard some scuttlebutt on facebook that Target will be closing.

Can anyone confirm this?

Oh, now I see the other thread on this.

Never mind. Lol
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on November 05, 2014, 09:08:11 PM
Especially this time of year...

I'm sure 'the fuzz' would have the cleanest car in town ;) ;) ;)

Inside and out.......would be interesting to see how they would vacuum the driver seat floor mat with me sitting on the seat. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on November 26, 2014, 09:14:55 AM
I don't go to the local mall as much so I don't really know what goes on there at times.
So, my father-in-law was there recently and told me that Coach House Gifts are closed.
I'm kind of wondering why now. That store seems to do very well during the holiday season.
It was one of the stores that the wife and I actually liked.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 26, 2014, 10:37:51 AM
I don't go to the local mall as much so I don't really know what goes on there at times.
So, my father-in-law was there recently and told me that Coach House Gifts are closed.
I'm kind of wondering why now. That store seems to do very well during the holiday season.
It was one of the stores that the wife and I actually liked.

Yes, I noticed that too...  surprised we didn't hear more about it before it closed.  That was one of the few stores out there I even enjoyed going into anymore.  I'm like you though, it does seem like they would have toughed it out through the holiday season.

Maybe their lease was up...   maybe it was something in their personal lives :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on November 26, 2014, 12:34:53 PM
Coach House owned a bunch of Hallmark stores and has apparently gone out of business.   Monroe's seems to have been one of the last.   Probably not a good time in history to own a Hallmark franchise.   
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 26, 2014, 12:41:33 PM
Coach House owned a bunch of Hallmark stores and has apparently gone out of business.   Monroe's seems to have been one of the last.   Probably not a good time in history to own a Hallmark franchise.

Thanks for the background info ytrewq...   I guess I just thought they were a local operation. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 11, 2014, 11:28:40 AM
On the business page of the paper yesterday it says The Gap at the Outlet Mall will close in January!!!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Billy on December 11, 2014, 11:52:43 AM
And with that announcement I think I just heard a bulldozer start.

Amazing what that place was and what it is today. I worked at the Outlet mall in high school and I'm here to tell you the place was absolutely packed back then. A lot of full and part time jobs were in that mall back then.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on December 11, 2014, 12:39:07 PM
Can you say "light" industrial park anyone?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on December 11, 2014, 01:01:51 PM
I can think of another use if the Red Light District downtown fails.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Billy on December 11, 2014, 01:24:30 PM
I just don't buy the light industrial park.

Plenty of room and established infrastructure at the next exit.

If there was true demand those areas would already be full.

Don't get me wrong the idea of having a job creator is appealing. I just don't see it. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on December 11, 2014, 01:28:05 PM
Me either Billy, especially if there is still capacity at the next exit.

I envision every chain of adult entertainment club occupying that place and then I will just move into an RV and park it there.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Billy on December 11, 2014, 01:36:01 PM
Lol, they'd have all your favorites. Fishing, strip clubs and that soil seems fertile out there. You could establish a small garden.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on December 11, 2014, 03:38:01 PM
Me either Billy, especially if there is still capacity at the next exit.

I envision every chain of adult entertainment club occupying that place and then I will just move into an RV and park it there.

They had an area like that outside Niagara Falls on the Canadian side...
 - and you bought a membership for the day - that got you in each of them ...   
not that I would have ever been to a place like that   ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Billy on December 11, 2014, 03:56:59 PM
Now there's a money maker.

I hate to say it but I bet the place was packed?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on December 11, 2014, 05:08:00 PM
???????  Wonder how much of an investment we are talking here ????????
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 11, 2014, 11:58:46 PM
Me either Billy, especially if there is still capacity at the next exit.

I envision every chain of adult entertainment club occupying that place and then I will just move into an RV and park it there.

If you didn't own an RV, you could stay at the Hospitality (or whatever it is) and get mugged.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on January 13, 2015, 02:48:07 PM
Sounds like there is about to be a big wave of mall closings.   Radio Shack is clearly closing--signs say Clearance, but the store is over half empty.   Not surprising as most experts don't see the whole company surviving the year.   Target we already knew about.   Deb went bankrupt and is closing all stores chain-wide.   

Unsubstantiated but I also heard rumors that the clothing store in the former Old Navy space (which looked temporary at best), Claire's and GNC are closing.   

If true, it makes you wonder if they aren't clearing that whole wing either for something else or to mothball it or even tear it down since Master Cuts recently moved to the other wing.   With most mall-based large retailers closing stores the odds of leasing the old Sears have to be slim at best.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on January 13, 2015, 03:08:01 PM
Sounds like there is about to be a big wave of mall closings.   Radio Shack is clearly closing--signs say Clearance, but the store is over half empty.   Not surprising as most experts don't see the whole company surviving the year.   Target we already knew about.   Deb went bankrupt and is closing all stores chain-wide.   

Unsubstantiated but I also heard rumors that the clothing store in the former Old Navy space (which looked temporary at best), Claire's and GNC are closing.   

If true, it makes you wonder if they aren't clearing that whole wing either for something else or to mothball it or even tear it down since Master Cuts recently moved to the other wing.   With most mall-based large retailers closing stores the odds of leasing the old Sears have to be slim at best.
There was an article on an on-line news, I think it was MSN, that Radio Shack was said was going to make some cuts in the future. I don't shop there as much as I used too. It used to be a good place to get things and actually build thing's like radio's or upgrade your CB radios. But that all changed when they jumped on the cell phone band wagon.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 13, 2015, 04:35:51 PM
Sounds like there is about to be a big wave of mall closings.   Radio Shack is clearly closing--signs say Clearance, but the store is over half empty.   Not surprising as most experts don't see the whole company surviving the year.   Target we already knew about.  Deb went bankrupt and is closing all stores chain-wide.   

Unsubstantiated but I also heard rumors that the clothing store in the former Old Navy space (which looked temporary at best), Claire's and GNC are closing.   

If true, it makes you wonder if they aren't clearing that whole wing either for something else or to mothball it or even tear it down since Master Cuts recently moved to the other wing.   With most mall-based large retailers closing stores the odds of leasing the old Sears have to be slim at best.


http://www.ourmidland.com/news/deb-shops-clothing-store-closing-in-midland-mall/article_12580e5c-9b63-11e4-a6af-ef53f9b2991f.html (http://www.ourmidland.com/news/deb-shops-clothing-store-closing-in-midland-mall/article_12580e5c-9b63-11e4-a6af-ef53f9b2991f.html)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: tnweasel on January 15, 2015, 10:10:45 PM
we hardly ever visit the mall...unless it's for the movie theater..... love those new seats by the way..... we just are not mall people.... I am not a 'shopper' by nature so unless I have a purpose .....I don't feel the need to window shop.... hate to see local people lose their jobs due to closings
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: arpydave on January 15, 2015, 11:37:28 PM
Theres a mall in monroe?  What the heck is that?

Oh yeah, now i remember. Back in the '70s they were a place that you hung out with other teenagers and never spent any money.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 16, 2015, 08:01:47 AM
Theres a mall in monroe?  What the heck is that?

Oh yeah, now i remember. Back in the '70s they were a place that you hung out with other teenagers and never spent any money.

We went out there a couple of times to 'walk' during the recent cold spell...

it was late afternoon and I commented to my wife that there were as many people there as just before Christmas and she said they were probably out there for all the 'going out of business' sales!!!

Radio Shack has some stock on either side wall and some on the floor back in the far corner and otherwise it is empty!!!  Target has what racks are out still loaded but it's getting to be a long way between racks (we just looked in from the 'mall' entrance so don't know what the rest of the store looked like.

Will be interesting to see how busy the mall is in a couple of weeks after these stores are 'gone' :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 16, 2015, 12:19:57 PM
The heyday for malls were the 60's.  They are out of fashion now.  Direlicts of the computer age.  Tear 'em down and put in a parking lot.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 16, 2015, 07:53:48 PM
But didn't all these stores hear the legislature just saved them by taxing the internet?

 :)

Good times are here again!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on January 16, 2015, 07:59:40 PM
But I thought the economy was BOOMING?  That's what Obaaaaaama keeps saying. 

I just got back from a gun dealer show, sort of like the Shot Show, but smaller... And the general mood is not good in the sporting goods industry.  2014 was very tough for a lot of stores, and 2015 is expected to be bad, too.  Fishing and archery stores are going to be especially hard hit. 

Thanks Obaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaama.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Tiny on January 16, 2015, 10:53:55 PM
Theres a mall in monroe?  What the heck is that?

Oh yeah, now i remember. Back in the '70s they were a place that you hung out with other teenagers and never spent any money.

In the 70's it was still Rink's Bargain City. The Mall wasn't built until 1988.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Frenchfry on January 17, 2015, 10:39:17 AM
But I thought the economy was BOOMING?  That's what Obaaaaaama keeps saying. 

I just got back from a gun dealer show, sort of like the Shot Show, but smaller... And the general mood is not good in the sporting goods industry.  2014 was very tough for a lot of stores, and 2015 is expected to be bad, too.  Fishing and archery stores are going to be especially hard hit. 

Thanks Obaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaama.
LOL...misplaced blame. The republican party, the party of NO!, did everything in their power to ensure the legacy of Obama wouldn't be a good one. But for those with short memories...the real blame belongs to the financial meltdown created by the republican policies enacted by Bush. But perhaps you could provide the evidence that Obama is to blame so the stage is all yours.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Frenchfry on January 17, 2015, 10:44:47 AM
Dropped by Target the other day...the place was deserted. Not a single customer in sight...at the registers...at the service desk...nowhere.

Same thing at Pat Catans.

Seems it's mainly a mall thing.

The other places we visited were doing fine.

But let's face it...Moron County lags behind in every area of recovery.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on January 17, 2015, 11:20:10 PM
Stand alone stores seem to be doing just fine...  Kohl's  Meijer's  Wally world  Down the Telegraph strip... 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on January 18, 2015, 09:07:26 AM
LOL...misplaced blame. The republican party, the party of NO!, did everything in their power to ensure the legacy of Obama wouldn't be a good one. But for those with short memories...the real blame belongs to the financial meltdown created by the republican policies enacted by Bush. But perhaps you could provide the evidence that Obama is to blame so the stage is all yours.

Ah, yes.  The old "It's all bush's fault!" ploy.

Dude, it's been over six YEARS since the messiah has been in the white house.  The national debt has increased by $8,000,000,000,000.00 during that time.  That's almost as much debt as ALL of the debt incurred by ALL of the presidents in history.

Quite an accomplishment, to be sure. 

And how is this Bush's fault?  Did Bush FORCE Obama to spend that money?   8*

Even YOU are not that stupid, to believe such an outrageous premise. 

You really need some new material.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on January 18, 2015, 09:14:47 AM

Dude, it's been over six YEARS since the messiah has been in the white house.  The national debt has increased by $8,000,000,000,000.00 during that time.  That's almost as much debt as ALL of the debt incurred by ALL of the presidents in history.


I hear ya, and agree.......but in all fairness, doesn't that $8,000,000,000,000 include interest on the national debt left by previous administrations? 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on January 18, 2015, 09:39:00 AM
I hear ya, and agree.......but in all fairness, doesn't that $8,000,000,000,000 include interest on the national debt left by previous administrations?

I'm sure that's true, Fuzz.  But the interest is insignificant, compared to the increasing principal that is added each and every month by the Obama administration.  They are printing over 75 Billion dollars each MONTH, in fake money, just to prevent the economy from collapsing.  Not only are they spending WAY more than they are taking in, in the form of taxes, but this added funny money is diluting the value of our dollar in the world market, further weakening our economic power in the world market. 

It's NOT healthy for our country, and it's NOT good for the citizens of our country.

It's a dead end road, unless something changes.  There is NO OTHER possibility.  If we continue on this path, it WILL destroy the United States.  That is a fact.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 18, 2015, 11:01:56 AM
Not truly a 'closing' but I guess a 'consolidation' of services...

going to make it rough for their customers that live 'south of the river' though...

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/17/monroe-township-key-bank-close-consolidate-frencht/?business (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/17/monroe-township-key-bank-close-consolidate-frencht/?business)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on January 18, 2015, 02:58:00 PM
I'm sure that's true, Fuzz.  But the interest is insignificant, compared to the increasing principal that is added each and every month by the Obama administration.  They are printing over 75 Billion dollars each MONTH, in fake money, just to prevent the economy from collapsing.  Not only are they spending WAY more than they are taking in, in the form of taxes, but this added funny money is diluting the value of our dollar in the world market, further weakening our economic power in the world market. 

It's NOT healthy for our country, and it's NOT good for the citizens of our country.

It's a dead end road, unless something changes.  There is NO OTHER possibility.  If we continue on this path, it WILL destroy the United States.  That is a fact.

I'm not disputing that.....but I read a long time ago how much just the interest alone was adding daily/yearly to the national debt.  It is part of the entire problem, and is what if I remember correctly, quite significant.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on January 18, 2015, 07:15:12 PM
I'm not disputing that.....but I read a long time ago how much just the interest alone was adding daily/yearly to the national debt.  It is part of the entire problem, and is what if I remember correctly, quite significant.


You're right, Fuzz.  The interest is a big problem, and getting bigger.  Coupled with the uncontrolled spending by our government, we're in trouble.  BIG trouble.

The CBO report also points out that interest on the debt is becoming an ever larger portion of federal spending. This year, the federal government will pay $221 billion in interest charges. By 2024, that will rise to more than $876 billion. Not long afterward, we will be paying a trillion dollars every year just for interest on the debt.

No matter how you look at it, we're screwed.



http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/dc-forgets-about-debt?gclid=COen9O7hnsMCFQiEaQodUDIAuw (http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/dc-forgets-about-debt?gclid=COen9O7hnsMCFQiEaQodUDIAuw)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 18, 2015, 07:31:46 PM
Whats the problem?

We are printing money - and telling people that inflation is LOW, and all is well.

Never mind everything costs more than it used to.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 20, 2015, 02:16:29 PM
I'm not disputing that.....but I read a long time ago how much just the interest alone was adding daily/yearly to the national debt.  It is part of the entire problem, and is what if I remember correctly, quite significant.


I'm not sure if this website will give you the info you're looking for or not...   I don't think it's a government website even though it's intended to look like one but with a quick look I don't see that it's 'leaning' one way or another:

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/debt_deficit_history (http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/debt_deficit_history)

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_deficit_chart.html (http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_deficit_chart.html)

Some good reading here too although it's obviously going to have a 'Forbes lean' to it:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/stancollender/2014/10/16/stop-and-smell-the-roses-final-2014-federal-deficit-fell-big-time/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/stancollender/2014/10/16/stop-and-smell-the-roses-final-2014-federal-deficit-fell-big-time/)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: superspice_10 on January 20, 2015, 08:59:55 PM
Dropped by Target the other day...the place was deserted. Not a single customer in sight...at the registers...at the service desk...nowhere.

Same thing at Pat Catans.



Seems it's mainly a mall thing.

The other places we visited were doing fine.

But let's face it...Moron County lags behind in every area of recovery.



Yea, you should have been in there when they took all chemicals , storage , bedding , home , etc , on clearance 30% off .... We couldn't keep up with the messes people were making ... come to think of it you should have seen the coupon ears grabbing up everything ... Pretty entertaining :)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on January 20, 2015, 11:31:17 PM
Not truly a 'closing' but I guess a 'consolidation' of services...

going to make it rough for their customers that live 'south of the river' though...

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/17/monroe-township-key-bank-close-consolidate-frencht/?business[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/17/monroe-township-key-bank-close-consolidate-frencht/?business[/url])

Always wondered why Frenchtown business area expanded,  and Monroe Township has contracted... 

Is their a correlation?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Debimark on January 21, 2015, 06:46:38 AM
I had asked where the Frenchtown Charter busses were this year with the trips to Florida and the casino's.  Did not know that Gary and his wife retired and closed the business. All happened very quietly, really. A good company ran by good people.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 21, 2015, 08:46:23 AM
I had asked where the Frenchtown Charter busses were this year with the trips to Florida and the casino's.  Did not know that Gary and his wife retired and closed the business. All happened very quietly, really. A good company ran by good people.

I always heard good things about them.  Probably not the type of a business that one could sell readily.

Always wondered why Frenchtown business area expanded,  and Monroe Township has contracted... 

Is their a correlation?

The expansion in Frenchtown followed a couple of major factors.  I-275 having a direct link to Telegraph Rd. certainly had some impact over the years.  The housing growth in the Ash-Berlin-Frenchtown area back in the 80s and 90s was a lot of people moving out of Wayne County (and DEEEEtroit)! 

Interesting that the predicted 'new' (back then) Fermi Nuclear Power Station would chase people from it's shadow never happened...   in fact it obviously seemed to be the reverse effect.  Even though most of the nuclear plant staff moved to Bedford (what did they know that everyone else ignored?)...

We've just been discussing how about that same time MonroeTown had their 'growth spurt' out on Laplaisance road around the outlet mall...   for whatever reasons the mall didn't catch on and we're still seeing the long term 'consequences' of that.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 21, 2015, 09:43:23 AM


Yea, you should have been in there when they took all chemicals , storage , bedding , home , etc , on clearance 30% off .... We couldn't keep up with the messes people were making ... come to think of it you should have seen the coupon ears grabbing up everything ... Pretty entertaining :)

Glad to see you're still able to maintain your 'sense of consumer humor' through this ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on January 21, 2015, 10:32:59 AM
I had asked where the Frenchtown Charter busses were this year with the trips to Florida and the casino's.  Did not know that Gary and his wife retired and closed the business. All happened very quietly, really. A good company ran by good people.
Had known many "seniors" that enjoyed their charter bus trips,  but that seemed to be the target audience - and over time they likely weren't adding new and losing old customers.   

It would have been interesting to see if they did try to "sell"... 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Debimark on January 21, 2015, 10:38:22 AM
I do agree with you BRD, expansion and population follows logistics.  I expect to see another shift towards Berlin/Ash in a few years when/if Fermi 3 receives permitting to move forward with construction. The momentum shift will benefit the areas close by, and will present Monroe and South County with challenges in order to have the workforce locate there.

The LaPlaisance Road (Marketplace) situation is much more dire IMHO. I like the idea of flattening it all and starting over with Light Industrial. I would even go so far as to suggest an Incubator/Breeder for start ups. I doubt Greater Monroe will ever see anything the size of GEMA/Dundee Chrysler, and thusly may wish to focus on small businesses or startups.

Downtown/City of Monroe presents a challenge unique in and of itself. I still envision Downtown as a Government/Financial Center, and not the retail model that has been struggling for 30 years. The Industrial Area is dated, and I don't foresee the Battlefield Region creating high-paying jobs.

If I were betting on the likes of anything coming in the size and scope near the Dundee project I mentioned, I would almost bet that South County/North County would have the acreage and logistics to support it.

Don't rule out our neighbors to the West trying to lure a large-scale operation to the Britton/Tecumseh Area. The Tecumseh Products and (soon to be former) Herrick Hospital site will make it interesting in Lenawee County.

New jobs, new businesses, all require a skilled workforce. Yet MCCC had their mileage request denied.

Perhaps a new Topic, BRD.  All of these issues seem to tie together.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 21, 2015, 11:16:17 AM
I do agree with you BRD, expansion and population follows logistics.  I expect to see another shift towards Berlin/Ash in a few years when/if Fermi 3 receives permitting to move forward with construction. The momentum shift will benefit the areas close by, and will present Monroe and South County with challenges in order to have the workforce locate there.

The LaPlaisance Road (Marketplace) situation is much more dire IMHO. I like the idea of flattening it all and starting over with Light Industrial. I would even go so far as to suggest an Incubator/Breeder for start ups. I doubt Greater Monroe will ever see anything the size of GEMA/Dundee Chrysler, and thusly may wish to focus on small businesses or startups.

Downtown/City of Monroe presents a challenge unique in and of itself. I still envision Downtown as a Government/Financial Center, and not the retail model that has been struggling for 30 years. The Industrial Area is dated, and I don't foresee the Battlefield Region creating high-paying jobs.

If I were betting on the likes of anything coming in the size and scope near the Dundee project I mentioned, I would almost bet that South County/North County would have the acreage and logistics to support it.

Don't rule out our neighbors to the West trying to lure a large-scale operation to the Britton/Tecumseh Area. The Tecumseh Products and (soon to be former) Herrick Hospital site will make it interesting in Lenawee County.

New jobs, new businesses, all require a skilled workforce. Yet MCCC had their mileage request denied.

Perhaps a new Topic, BRD.  All of these issues seem to tie together.

Great idea...   go ahead and start it and I'll be glad to contribute ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 22, 2015, 11:19:43 AM
Not an entire business closing but the Tim Horton's kiosk at Meijer will be closing by the end of January (according to one of the facebook comments they haven't been open for a couple of weeks)! 

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/22/tim-hortons-moving-out-monroe-meijer/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/22/tim-hortons-moving-out-monroe-meijer/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on January 22, 2015, 01:48:06 PM
That one never made sense to start with with "real" Tim Hortons a block away.   Plus it was somewhat hidden in that corner and had no outside signage to remind people it was there. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 22, 2015, 06:11:44 PM
I presume the TH a few blocks away provided the coffee and sliders for the kisok?  Not that the TH made anything (other than the coffee) because TH sliders (like Sno-White) are made elsewhere and trucked in.

High mileage sliders.......... ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 30, 2015, 06:30:05 AM
Article from the MonroeNews on the last few days of Target in Monroe:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/30/customers-mall-monroe-will-miss-target/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jan/30/customers-mall-monroe-will-miss-target/)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on February 03, 2015, 09:03:02 AM
Looks like it's only a matter of a short time until we'll be losing the other Radio Shack store on Telegraph...

but the good news is it might become just what Monroe needs...

another Cell Phone store ;D ;D ;D

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102376542 (http://www.cnbc.com/id/102376542)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: carguy on February 05, 2015, 06:15:04 PM
Ciolino's monroes location is leaving. New produce company bought the monroe location
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on February 05, 2015, 06:21:24 PM
I sure hope the new guy does better because I missed the quality of produce Ciolino's had when they were out at the location near Lowe's.  I used to buy almost all my fresh produce from there, but something seemed to happen when they changed location.  I finally stopped shopping there shortly after they moved.

Any word on who the new produce company is?

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on February 05, 2015, 06:34:05 PM
Looks like it's only a matter of a short time until we'll be losing the other Radio Shack store on Telegraph...

but the good news is it might become just what Monroe needs...

another Cell Phone store ;D ;D ;D

[url]http://www.cnbc.com/id/102376542[/url] ([url]http://www.cnbc.com/id/102376542[/url])

Me and my son had lunch at Olga's yesterday. The Radio Shack was nearly cleaned out. IMO, they should have stayed the way they were and not try to compete with the bigger cell phone companies.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: excelsior on February 05, 2015, 07:42:52 PM
All RadioShacks are going down in the U.S.  Stores in Mexico and Asia will remain open.

RadioShack Cuts The Cord After 94 Years, Files For Bankruptcy

http://www.forbes.com/sites/antoinegara/2015/02/05/radioshack-cuts-the-cord-after-90-years-files-for-bankruptcy/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/antoinegara/2015/02/05/radioshack-cuts-the-cord-after-90-years-files-for-bankruptcy/)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Debimark on February 05, 2015, 08:58:03 PM
Radio Shack..........sad news, but I knew it was coming. Still remember my TRS-80 and "Armatron", the first 'robotic' arm. Great memories. My adulthood, however, saw my tastes and habits change and evolve, eventually becoming an Amazon Prime customer.

The Fortune 500 list from 1962 has names such as Sinclair Oil, ARMCO, Bendix, Youngstown Sheet and Tube..........all whom (to my best data) are out of business, have been absorbed, merged, etc. Radio Shack is another example of a large entity that could not/did not change fast enough with the changing online habits to remain relevant. Sad that "The Shack" did not stand the test of time.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Frenchfry on February 06, 2015, 08:13:06 PM
Saw this a few days ago:

What Amazon Could Do With RadioShack Stores

After facing enduring criticism that Amazon wrecked the traditional brick-and-mortar retail model, the Internet retail giant may be interested in creating its own version of it.

Amazon.com Inc. is reportedly in talks with RadioShack, based in Fort Worth, Texas, to acquire some of the beleaguered retailer's store locations, but that could be a risky endeavor, analysts say.

Amazon is considering using an unspecified number of RadioShack stores to showcase some of the company's hardware and as a potential pick-up and drop-off center for online customers, Bloomberg reported, citing two unnamed people familiar with the matter.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/amazon-radioshack-stores/story?id=28693983 (http://abcnews.go.com/Business/amazon-radioshack-stores/story?id=28693983)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on February 07, 2015, 04:29:51 AM
Saw this a few days ago:

What Amazon Could Do With RadioShack Stores

After facing enduring criticism that Amazon wrecked the traditional brick-and-mortar retail model, the Internet retail giant may be interested in creating its own version of it.

Amazon.com Inc. is reportedly in talks with RadioShack, based in Fort Worth, Texas, to acquire some of the beleaguered retailer's store locations, but that could be a risky endeavor, analysts say.

Amazon is considering using an unspecified number of RadioShack stores to showcase some of the company's hardware and as a potential pick-up and drop-off center for online customers, Bloomberg reported, citing two unnamed people familiar with the matter.
[url]http://abcnews.go.com/Business/amazon-radioshack-stores/story?id=28693983[/url] ([url]http://abcnews.go.com/Business/amazon-radioshack-stores/story?id=28693983[/url])


I can see some potential for this at the mall store!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on February 07, 2015, 05:01:55 PM
Radio Shack..........sad news, but I knew it was coming. Still remember my TRS-80 and "Armatron", the first 'robotic' arm. Great memories. My adulthood, however, saw my tastes and habits change and evolve, eventually becoming an Amazon Prime customer.

The Fortune 500 list from 1962 has names such as Sinclair Oil, ARMCO, Bendix, Youngstown Sheet and Tube..........all whom (to my best data) are out of business, have been absorbed, merged, etc. Radio Shack is another example of a large entity that could not/did not change fast enough with the changing online habits to remain relevant. Sad that "The Shack" did not stand the test of time.

I remember Layfayette Electronics, a Radio Shack wannabe that I think Radio Shack bought out, and Heathkit too.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Tiny on February 07, 2015, 06:46:18 PM
From 1947 until 1992, Heathkit — which was the “brand name of kits and other electronic products produced and marketed by the Heath Company,” according to Wikipedia — was among the biggest, if not the biggest, game in town when it came to electronics kits.

Most ham radio enthusiasts and electrical engineers “of a certain age remember fondly their first Heathkit,” wrote EDN Network in May, 2013. “Everybody had at least one Heathkit.”

Heath got its start in 1926 in Maine as an aircraft firm before pivoting, in today’s parlance, to other businesses. According to that state’s Herald-Palladium newspaper, Heath eventually turned to electronics after World War II “and bought a large surplus of wartime electronic parts to build kits.” At its peak, it had 1,800 workers.

By 1992, though, things had changed. For some years, the company moved into the educational market, but in 2008, that last hope of staying alive died. “The situation was purely one of the economy,” Heathkit’s last known owner, Don Desrochers, told the Herald-Palladium in 2012. “Heathkit (Educational Systems) was primarily dependent upon federal and state funding for schools. Spending in education continued to drop down, and it was economically unfeasible to continue operating.”

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The company was started as "Radio Shack" in 1921 by two brothers, Theodore and Milton Deutschmann, who wanted to provide equipment for the then-nascent field of amateur, or ham radio.[5] The brothers opened a one-store retail and mail-order operation in the heart of downtown Boston at 46 Brattle Street, near the site of the Boston Massacre. They chose the name "Radio Shack", which was the term for a small, wooden structure that housed a ship's radio equipment. The Deutschmanns thought the name was appropriate for a store that would supply the needs of radio officers aboard ships, as well as "ham" radio operators. The term was already in use — and is to this day — by "hams" when referring to the location of their stations.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on February 08, 2015, 05:31:03 AM
I remember Layfayette Electronics, a Radio Shack wannabe that I think Radio Shack bought out, and Heathkit too.


I had (it may even still be out in the attic in the barn) a Heathkit Engine Scope.  I picked it up used off the Snap-On truck.  Even though the display was smaller than anything we had in the shop it was 12V DC powered so we could put it right in the boat and take it along when testing! 

That little scope helped us find problems that the big boys just couldn't because whatever would only act up under certain conditions.  Plus it worked just fine on a lawnmower or a chain saw!

(http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/attachments/c1-and-c2-corvettes/47661338d1289440100-heathkit-ignition-analyzer-img_0404.jpg)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on February 08, 2015, 07:18:15 AM
I wish I had kept it for a keepsake, but in college I built a Z-80 for use at home so that I wouldn't have to run to campus to do assignments.

Used the big ole 8" floopy discs and was CPM driven.......that CPM was so damn loud that I would have to cover it with a heavy towel so as not to wake my wife and eldest daughter in the early morning hours.  I was really high tech with that dot-matrix printer too.   ;D


(http://classiccmp.org/dunfield/heath/h/h89.jpg)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on February 08, 2015, 08:56:01 AM
My wife went to a class sometime not too long after we were first married (71) and she brought back an 8" floppy...   I spent the longest time looking at it and trying to figure out how the information got in and out!!!  It was about then that I decided computers just weren't for me ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on February 08, 2015, 09:37:20 AM
The technology has developed and ballooned so fast in applications that it is simply mind boggling.

The younger kids now coming into the workforce in my industry are simply amazed that when I started we did not have full CAD capable design programs, Excel, MS Word, and email.  I just grin.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on February 08, 2015, 10:16:04 AM
I have lost count how many CAD systems and Data Management Systems I've been through now.

My first job I remember the designers working on drafting boards.  That was cool.  The print room data management system was very easy to understand.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on February 08, 2015, 10:30:24 AM
I remember the drafting boards and etching of plates to produce drawings in the basement of Ford PDC.  The building was called Body Engineering at the time but is right there connected to the Rotunda Design Studio.

Hell yes,,,,,,,I remember PDGS and the other software packages (IDEAS) required to surface those PDGS files separately.  Wow has it come a long way!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on February 08, 2015, 10:52:15 AM
Not a business closing but it seems like they closed the Bedford Now Forum.
it's been about 2 weeks displaying the message we'll be back in a minute or 2.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on February 08, 2015, 11:07:48 AM
Maybe it's 'Bedford Later' instead of now, now.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on February 08, 2015, 01:52:25 PM
Not a business closing but it seems like they closed the Bedford Now Forum.
it's been about 2 weeks displaying the message we'll be back in a minute or 2.

Brian Williams is coming over to fix it - since he's on "Vacation"...  ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on February 08, 2015, 02:36:45 PM
He could gain back some credibility with me by coming here and exposing the MEN and local LE agency heads for their own lack of integrity and credibility. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on February 08, 2015, 02:37:50 PM
He's probably had some experience in that too.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on February 09, 2015, 09:16:46 AM
Not a business closing but it seems like they closed the Bedford Now Forum.
it's been about 2 weeks displaying the message we'll be back in a minute or 2.
I see he fixed it...
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on February 09, 2015, 10:29:58 AM
I can't get into the BN Forum
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on February 09, 2015, 11:27:32 AM
I can't get into the BN Forum
I just did...  you may have to refresh something,  or maybe you've been banned ;-)

I just opened to view as guest - didn't log in...  so that may be the issue
It looks like a mini version of MT
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on February 13, 2015, 10:46:16 AM
I was at the Mall yesterday afternoon...

stopped and looked around the Radio Shack...   the place is bare except their counter and a few items hanging on the two outside walls...   very sparse and from what I could see mostly picked over cell phone accessories.  Even if people were buying left and right (they weren't while I was there) at the discounted price it can't be enough income to pay the light bill...

much less hourly wage of staff!!!

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/feb/12/radioshack-closing-mall-location-sunday/?business (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/feb/12/radioshack-closing-mall-location-sunday/?business)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on February 13, 2015, 11:10:43 AM
Curious how long the other location will remain  open... 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on February 13, 2015, 11:50:38 AM
Curious how long the other location will remain  open...

I posted a link somewhere recently about them trying to convert some of their locations to cell phone stores...   just what we need in Monroe! 

Maybe they could put in a combo cell phone / pizza shop  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on February 16, 2015, 12:49:43 PM
I went to the mall today to look for some boots and saw that Raven Rock was closed.
There were posters turned around and had "Closed" written on them and people were inside boxing things up.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on February 16, 2015, 05:15:02 PM
I predict that whole chain is tanking as well.   Doing some research, in 2007 they had plans to open 50 stores.   They listed 17 stores in 5 states in 2009.   They now list 6 stores in 3 states, one of those being Monroe as their only Michigan store.   Another is inside a Whirlpool plant in Ohio for employees only.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on February 16, 2015, 06:19:09 PM
I went to the mall today to look for some boots and saw that Raven Rock was closed.
There were posters turned around and had "Closed" written on them and people were inside boxing things up.

I predict that whole chain is tanking as well.   Doing some research, in 2007 they had plans to open 50 stores.   They listed 17 stores in 5 states in 2009.   They now list 6 stores in 3 states, one of those being Monroe as their only Michigan store.   Another is inside a Whirlpool plant in Ohio for employees only.

I've seen their 'Up to 50% off' posters the last couple of times I've been in the mall, but didn't realize they were closing.  Actually, with all the other stores having all their closing sales it's hard to tell what is going on with what!

They probably would have done just fine in Monroe 25 years ago when this was actually still a 'working' town...

Probably the only workers around here anymore buying their products were the MCRC crews!!!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on February 16, 2015, 09:26:36 PM
Probably the only workers around here anymore buying their products were the MCRC crews!!!

They "work"?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on February 17, 2015, 08:18:23 AM
They "work"?

Well, they do have to dress for it...

you know...

just in case ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: rwwjr on March 29, 2015, 09:48:20 AM
Just out of curiosity, has anyone heard why the car wash on South Dixie closed?  Windows blacked out, writings of closed on windows, and sign out front stating closed.  Been about a week now.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on March 29, 2015, 11:05:18 AM
someone may have milked the cash cow and didn't pay bills/ taxes?   
Just a guess - as I know the business was successful under previous owners. - but there was a family dispute in the past as well.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on March 29, 2015, 08:16:06 PM
I saw the Pawn Shop on N. Monroe St. & Kessler closed.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on March 30, 2015, 08:56:16 AM
Service at that car wash has been TERRIBLE for several months.  Word probably got around.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on March 30, 2015, 09:10:08 AM
Just out of curiosity, has anyone heard why the car wash on South Dixie closed?  Windows blacked out, writings of closed on windows, and sign out front stating closed.  Been about a week now.

It got sold.

The new owner decided to cut corners.

Who needs soap to wash a car?

It didn't take me long to figure that out and quit going there.

I'm sure other customers were just as smart.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on March 30, 2015, 09:52:51 AM
Service at that car wash has been TERRIBLE for several months.  Word probably got around.

Funny how people think it's so easy to just buy a business - and they will be rolling in the dough...     especially a cash business like this one!

I knew the original family from years ago - and they made a decent living,  but sadly when the owners die and the family squabbles over who does/gets what - you end up destroying the business/reputation.   
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on March 31, 2015, 08:36:15 AM
Shame they ruined it.   The one on Telegraph the back of my car never gets clean.   There's still Don's, assuming its open, which doesn't seem to have been a problem lately.

Does Giuseppe's have new owners?   Last couple times I got pizza there it wasn't the same quality and was under cooked.   I've heard the same complaint from a couple others, more than enough samples to know its not a fluke.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on March 31, 2015, 09:20:55 AM
Shame they ruined it.   The one on Telegraph the back of my car never gets clean.   There's still Don's, assuming its open, which doesn't seem to have been a problem lately.

Does Giuseppe's have new owners?   Last couple times I got pizza there it wasn't the same quality and was under cooked.   I've heard the same complaint from a couple others, more than enough samples to know its not a fluke.

The owner got sick, (Joe?) not sure if he's able to cook anymore - also why they cut back their hours. 
Good cooks are hard to come by - and I hope they correct the issues - (tell the owners wife as she is still there) 

Have enjoyed their pizza's and the toasted Joe's sub for years
would be saddened to see them lose quality - as it was a great place.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on March 31, 2015, 10:52:26 AM
I've been going to Don's.

They are up to 5 bucks for the cheapest, but they have stepped up their level of service from what they were.

They actually spend time prepping and scrubbing down the car before they send you through the machine, and they towel dry it on the far end.  I'm amazed how much time they spend - like the other place did before they went downhill.

They do a pretty decent job - well worth the cost difference from the joint on Telegraph in my opinion.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 31, 2015, 03:35:57 PM
I haven't been to a car wash in 30 years....  and my car looks like it.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on April 01, 2015, 05:41:55 PM
I've been going to Don's.

They are up to 5 bucks for the cheapest, but they have stepped up their level of service from what they were.

They actually spend time prepping and scrubbing down the car before they send you through the machine, and they towel dry it on the far end.  I'm amazed how much time they spend - like the other place did before they went downhill.

They do a pretty decent job - well worth the cost difference from the joint on Telegraph in my opinion.

Where is that? 

I miss BRD, he'd plot me out a map. 

PS...hope all is alright?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on April 01, 2015, 08:09:03 PM
Well I'm no BRD - but it's on N. Monroe Street - N of K Mart on the west side of the road

And I hope all is well also!

(https://www.google.com/maps/vt/data=RfCSdfNZ0LFPrHSm0ublXdzhdrDFhtmHhN1u-gM,4eDVLxTiUw3Zrrn2vgR27nfwgy2W_QTfokkfqYI-7jNQZrWSTXbAbrfAs7YnHCprVmkiefDy2QfF2R02xWdqbRgZj8L11JXjjtNnaRQgRL992lYgGh4qBEykxJXh9PllIxN_SMhpYKu1pO7XZfPOepcWMM3vjpscAuRDPYrxN_uR3t0BYU_7KlStH3PeDNu5tVlBtT-o6jE)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on April 01, 2015, 08:54:43 PM
Thanks, not sure I noticed it the few times I ventured back that way.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 01, 2015, 09:34:20 PM
I see the powerhouse gym closed....again.  (In the MN).  Those people with memberships are really taking a bath............
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Tiny on April 01, 2015, 11:13:00 PM
I see they have a for sale sign out front of the La-Z-Boy building on Telegraph, I thought someone had plans for that area.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on April 02, 2015, 10:22:15 AM
I see they have a for sale sign out front of the La-Z-Boy building on Telegraph, I thought someone had plans for that area.
They already have another building in mind for the Library  ;D

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on April 02, 2015, 12:24:31 PM
Lots of people have plans for the LZB property.   Unfortunately they all want someone else to pay for it.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on April 02, 2015, 03:56:46 PM
I saw some sale signs out in front of Sottiles today. Looks like they're trying to sell the property. Maybe the business as well.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 02, 2015, 05:34:08 PM
Lots of people have plans for the LZB property.   Unfortunately they all want someone else to pay for it.

Isn't that how it usually works?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on April 02, 2015, 05:46:51 PM
Keeps the architects and planners employed... 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on April 03, 2015, 08:34:25 AM
True.  It will be interesting to see what happens with that property.   It would be nice to see the site cleared as there's virtually no chance of it being reused as-is unless there's some major announcement about someone moving to Monroe.  It would be preferable to see it sit as an open field for a few years than an unkept former headquarters.   

There's some interesting, or maybe depressing things if you search the real estate listings.   Target wants $2M for their store.   Can't see that happening.   It would appear from the Loopnet listing that they actually own the main front driveway to the mall!, McGeady's and Dena's apparently want to cash out.   White Castle is for sale too, but its confidential so don't tell anyone ????   Guessing whoever owns that is looking to cash in if the LZB property sells.

Sotille's is being sold as 2 parcels, one for either $94K or $120K (2 listings) which is basically the southern part of the yard starting just south of the big blue building and the other including the blue building for $380K with the description "Unique property great opportunity!"  Unique for sure.   Probably can't find that level of contamination anywhere else in the county except the industrial areas near the river and lake.



Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on April 03, 2015, 09:34:33 AM
Can't imagine anyone trusting a Gym around here they way they fold up and close...   except for the YMCA which probably charges a little more and has other money making things to support it.

Business sales could almost be another thread - as they are still open (or should be) - as you get much more from a open business sale than for an empty building with no customer base. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on April 03, 2015, 09:52:08 AM
Menards or Super Target are my guesses for the old LZB property. I heard that they already sold some of the back of the property but don't have any verification.
Mav
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on April 03, 2015, 11:55:48 AM
Super Target came up before.   I don't see it.   Why would they close, lose all their staff,  give customers away to Meijer and Walmart, then come back?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Tiny on April 03, 2015, 09:26:49 PM
Menards or Super Target are my guesses for the old LZB property. I heard that they already sold some of the back of the property but don't have any verification.
Mav

What is LaZboy doing with their under ground bomb shelter/bunker that housed all there computer systems that sits back behind the buildings? Did they move all that equipment?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on April 27, 2015, 08:27:55 AM
Another victim to this "robust" economy.



Bolles Harbor Cafe shutting down

After nearly 16 years in business, Bolles Harbor Cafe will be closing its doors. Owner Silverio Conte said operating the restaurant at 13986 Laplaisance Rd. was no longer feasible. Its last day is Thursday.

The cafe is known for its fresh ingredients, specialty breakfasts, burgers, seafood and pasta dishes. Mr. Conte grew up working in his family’s restaurant, Detroit Beach Pizzeria, and opened the cafe in July, 1999. “I wanted to try something different,” he said, noting how his menu offers crepes and homemade baked goods. “ I wanted to offer a fresh, healthy menu, but the Monroe market doesn’t go for that.”

Business was doing well until the recession hit, Mr. Conte said. advertisement “I’m disappointed because the foods I prepared were good and unique,” he said. “Maybe I was going overboard on what I wanted to prepare for the price.” Bolles Harbor Cafe has been recognized numerous times for its food offerings in the past 15 years. In 2000, AAA Michigan named it the second best new restaurant in the state and it was once voted as having the best burger in a radio contest. The cafe also was featured on an episode of “Under the Radar Michigan” when the show came to Monroe in 2011.

Mr. Conte said he is unsure what he will do after the restaurant closes, but he has had a lot of offers from businesses to work for them. He may also return to helping out at Detroit Beach Pizzeria. However, he said he might take it slow for a bit as he has been having some issues with his diabetes. The cafe will operate from 6 a. m. to 9 p.m. today and 6 a.m. to 2 p.m. Sunday, Tuesday and Wednesday. On its last day, Thursday, it will be open from 6 a.m. to 9 p.m. The cafe is closed on Monday.

Read more at: http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/apr/27/bolles-harbor-cafe-shutting-down/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/apr/27/bolles-harbor-cafe-shutting-down/)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on April 27, 2015, 08:51:53 AM
I'm bummed out about Bolles Harbor Cafe.

It was a regular Sunday Morning stop for some casual dining.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on April 27, 2015, 09:27:04 AM
What is LaZboy doing with their under ground bomb shelter/bunker that housed all there computer systems that sits back behind the buildings? Did they move all that equipment?
Sounds like a unique business opportunity for "storage" of local business data... 

People forget how important data is until they lose it!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on April 28, 2015, 08:05:33 AM
White Castle closed.

Bolles Harbor Cafe should have advertised more.   Didn't even know it was anything special.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on April 28, 2015, 09:02:26 AM
White Castle and Church's Chicken.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on April 28, 2015, 01:47:04 PM
Wow - what a robust economy we have.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: NewDawn on April 28, 2015, 06:34:31 PM
White Castle and Church's Chicken.


Do you know when they closed?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on April 28, 2015, 09:36:00 PM
Do you know when they closed?
Nope.... Noticed a couple days ago driving by.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 28, 2015, 10:37:48 PM
White Castle and Church's Chicken.

Nothing beats 6 sliders and a Coke.  About 6 hours after ingesting 6 sliders, I could inflate the Hindenberg by myself. ;D

Church's never did it for me.  I prefer KFC for many reasons.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on May 19, 2015, 01:42:27 PM
I went to the mall today to look for some boots and saw that Raven Rock was closed.
There were posters turned around and had "Closed" written on them and people were inside boxing things up.

Followup on this...Raven Rock went out of business company-wide.   Guess they tried to scale back to their original store in Dayton earlier this year which has now closed as well.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Frenchfry on May 22, 2015, 09:22:10 AM
Well I'll miss having a local White Castle.

Hopefully someone will bring in another one.

Putting it near the freeway would make better sense.

That location on Telegraph was a bit out of the way for me.

Plus for a long time after they opened...the sliders seemed a little too soggy for my liking...which may be why I generally went to other locations...but then sometimes those other locations would serve crispy sliders...sort of like stale buns.

But for the most part...sliders are great!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on May 22, 2015, 10:08:26 AM
Fry -

Maybe you could get a job at the next White Castle - and teach them some of McDonalds speed techniques.

That would help them a BUNCH.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Frenchfry on May 22, 2015, 10:14:42 AM
Fry -

Maybe you could get a job at the next White Castle - and teach them some of McDonalds speed techniques.

That would help them a BUNCH.
How sad, the imbecile thinks that since I chose the moniker frenchfry, that I'm somehow connected to the fast food industry.

Well I'm not.

But I have been known to visit the drive-thru on occasion. (not very often though)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on May 23, 2015, 08:00:53 PM
How sad, the imbecile thinks that since I chose the moniker frenchfry, that I'm somehow connected to the fast food industry.

Well I'm not.

But I have been known to visit the drive-thru on occasion. (not very often though)

It has nothing to do with your moniker Frenchfry.

It has to do with your profession.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: AtypicalGirl on May 24, 2015, 11:51:21 AM
Well I'll miss having a local White Castle.

Hopefully someone will bring in another one.

Putting it near the freeway would make better sense.

That location on Telegraph was a bit out of the way for me.

Plus for a long time after they opened...the sliders seemed a little too soggy for my liking...which may be why I generally went to other locations...but then sometimes those other locations would serve crispy sliders...sort of like stale buns.

But for the most part...sliders are great!

I'm gonna miss them too!! It would be nice if someone opened a new one, but closer to the freeway would suck for me... lol
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on May 24, 2015, 12:22:44 PM
The joke in my house is that I told all that I want to put the house up for sale because I do not want to live in a town that doesn't have a White Castle.  I tell them that I won't even drive that stretch of Telegraph anymore in fear of breaking down into tears.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on May 24, 2015, 01:00:42 PM
The joke in my house is that I told all that I want to put the house up for sale because I do not want to live in a town that doesn't have a White Castle.  I tell them that I won't even drive that stretch of Telegraph anymore in fear of breaking down into tears.
Just go eat somewhere else...and take Ex Lax before going to bed!
In the morning you will think that you had White Castle!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: AtypicalGirl on May 24, 2015, 01:26:38 PM
The joke in my house is that I told all that I want to put the house up for sale because I do not want to live in a town that doesn't have a White Castle.  I tell them that I won't even drive that stretch of Telegraph anymore in fear of breaking down into tears.

LMAO!!!! I know!! It's just not right!  :'( >:( ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Tiny on May 24, 2015, 05:53:55 PM
I've had one slider in my life, never wanted another one. Never could stand the smell of vomit they left in the car when I bought a case for kids.

Now the Church's chicken strips were fabulous but probably unhealthy as hell.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on May 24, 2015, 06:24:27 PM
Just go eat somewhere else...and take Ex Lax before going to bed!
In the morning you will think that you had White Castle!

I'd have to add that special ingredient that White Castle uses that gives me just a terrible case of heartburn/indigestion in addition to the Ex Lax.

Those things have made me sick for years, but I seldom pass one up.

I'd like to see one move in downtown,,,,,,,,,then go harass local business owners down there.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 24, 2015, 07:10:15 PM
Everytime I go up eight mile over to Mound, I stop in and get a six pack of sliders and a pepsi.  Great flatus guaranteed.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on May 25, 2015, 02:30:56 PM
I'll miss the fried clams strips - as they were my "Fries"... 

nice little snack on my ride to Livonia
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Frenchfry on May 26, 2015, 10:15:22 PM
I've had one slider in my life, never wanted another one. Never could stand the smell of vomit they left in the car when I bought a case for kids.

Now the Church's chicken strips were fabulous but probably unhealthy as hell.
Vomit? Maybe a little like someone passed some gas but not quite as bad as your experience.

While there seems to be a running joke about sliders...they've never done that to me.

Now I do recall having that happen after visiting a local buffet style Chinese restaurant.

Every single time I visit, it cleans me out completely.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Frenchfry on May 26, 2015, 10:21:23 PM
It has nothing to do with your moniker Frenchfry.

It has to do with your profession.
What does being a stud have to do with McDonalds? (Thanks for referring to it as a profession but I retired and now only service my wife)

Oh...maybe you meant Burger King...not because I've ever worked there but because it's home of the whopper.  ;)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: indy99 on May 26, 2015, 10:58:21 PM
Looks like Cozy Cafe on M-50 went belly up.  They had good coneys and fries, didn't care much for any of the fish items.  Good people owned it but I don't think the location was very good.  Sad.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on May 27, 2015, 12:44:02 AM
Looks like Cozy Cafe on M-50 went belly up.  They had good coneys and fries, didn't care much for any of the fish items.  Good people owned it but I don't think the location was very good.  Sad.
Shame I did breakfast there quite often as it was closest place...   
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on May 27, 2015, 06:50:40 AM
Well Hell, closest place to me too Prof.  Would grab a quick meal there often.

Great people who have had some difficult family tragedies......I wish them luck.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Tiny on May 27, 2015, 10:39:49 PM
Weren't they the ones that gave out free meals during the holidays?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on May 27, 2015, 10:43:25 PM
I saw a note on the door - but didn't stop to read it -   will have to stop and see what it says
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on May 28, 2015, 09:55:38 AM
Weren't they the ones that gave out free meals during the holidays?

Yes.....they really were good folks, and fun to just talk with while dining.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on May 29, 2015, 12:44:11 PM
Too bad......prime and visible location to set empty, and a reflection on the downtown the longer a for lease sign hangs out in front of it.

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/may/29/rockys-eatery-downtown-closes/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/may/29/rockys-eatery-downtown-closes/)

Great spot for a new White Castle IMO.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: pkrbkr on May 29, 2015, 03:24:11 PM
I hated to see Rocky's close earlier this month, as the food was always excellent. They had become my go to breakfast location in Monroe and will be missed very much.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: excelsior on May 29, 2015, 03:39:52 PM
Too bad......prime and visible location to set empty, and a reflection on the downtown the longer a for lease sign hangs out in front of it.

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/may/29/rockys-eatery-downtown-closes/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/may/29/rockys-eatery-downtown-closes/[/url])

Great spot for a new White Castle IMO.


Lots of turnover in that location.   I am thinking that landlord must be spending too much time scouting the AARP membership rolls for his 2015 FF team.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on May 29, 2015, 04:03:31 PM
LOL.....funny stuff.

It is a great location though, guess just the right thing hasn't gone in there......like a White Castle.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 29, 2015, 10:51:26 PM
I hated to see Rocky's close earlier this month, as the food was always excellent. They had become my go to breakfast location in Monroe and will be missed very much.

I see Brian is the landlord.....
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on May 30, 2015, 06:38:26 AM
Yea, saw that.  Knew him and his family had some property holdings downtown but didn't know this particular building was theirs.

Happened to drive past it yesterday......nice frontage on that building, and perfect location for some sort of business.  I have no idea why businesses struggle to survive downtown, not sure I buy the parking deal. 

Looks like a perfect spot for a high end restaurant to me, the renter would just have to tolerate dealing with a know it all landlord who struggled endlessly to get a hole in one.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on May 30, 2015, 09:32:40 AM
I am thinking that landlord must be spending too much time scouting the AARP membership rolls for his 2015 FF team.
And here I thought picking Fuzz at number 1 as my quarterback was a great move!! Damn AARP!!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on May 30, 2015, 09:33:57 AM
Oh WOW, cheap shot........I like thatshit!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on May 31, 2015, 07:54:01 AM
Oh WOW, cheap shot........I like thatshit!
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: indy99 on June 01, 2015, 03:06:43 PM
Looks like Cozy Cafe is open again.  They must have found some cash to keep it open.  Great dogs and fries.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 01, 2015, 09:38:05 PM
That's great news indy99!

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 01, 2015, 10:51:16 PM
Cabin Creek Pizza in Petersburg closed up.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on June 04, 2015, 11:15:02 PM
Looks like Cozy Cafe is open again.  They must have found some cash to keep it open.  Great dogs and fries.
I think they were closed for a death in the family - I stopped in today to catch a late Lunch and the crew was all there...   the "Mom" was crying and wanted to know how to print a picture from her cell phone
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on June 18, 2015, 12:34:41 PM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jun/18/olgas-kitchen-mall-stay-open/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jun/18/olgas-kitchen-mall-stay-open/)


for now... 

But the handwriting is on the wall - as who is going to lend them more if they already plan on negotiation pennies on the dollar for what they already haven't paid?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on June 19, 2015, 08:35:19 AM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jun/18/olgas-kitchen-mall-stay-open/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jun/18/olgas-kitchen-mall-stay-open/[/url])


for now... 

But the handwriting is on the wall - as who is going to lend them more if they already plan on negotiation pennies on the dollar for what they already haven't paid?


You never know.  Debt can strangle a business.  If bankruptcy can help eliminate the majority of their debt, existing cash flow can fund the business, without the need for anyone lending them money.  I haven't seen their books, so I have no idea what their cash situation is like... but in many cases, Chapter 11 can be a Godsend to a business like Olga's.

Times are tough right now for small businesses, no matter what Obama says.  I wish them well - both for the business owners, as well as the employees.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: eriemermaid on June 24, 2015, 04:45:48 PM
Looks like Miles pizza and more is closed up for good. How long did that last? Three months?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on June 25, 2015, 08:30:42 AM
Opening a restaurant (or any business) is easy.


Running one is entirely different.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on June 25, 2015, 09:33:37 AM
Opening a restaurant (or any business) is easy.


Running one is entirely different.
I often wonder if some even do a business plan...  or just think they know enough and can do it cause it looks "easy"... 

The easy part may be the actual doing... but there is much much more behind the scene stuff for any success.       Some you can learn from being in the business  - but the important lessons are often missed or not passed down.     

Having the finances to withstand the startup costs and 6 months of operations is one that many failed businesses can't fulfill -    That and a business model/plan that did research for their operations or sales of whatever it is they are in.      (paperwork, taxes, regulations, inspections, fee's - inventory control, payroll) just to name a few things that one must handle and control.   
...  a good cook/menu or specialty is also important in the restaurant business if you aren't buying something that is franchised and controls that stuff.   

Years ago I thought about starting a business at a "Mall" until my business plan showed what the mall rent would be - along with the startup costs...   couple of 20 year olds with no "family" name or backing weren't going to be able to make it happen. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 25, 2015, 09:51:05 AM
I often wonder if some even do a business plan...  or just think they know enough and can do it cause it looks "easy"... 

The easy part may be the actual doing... but there is much much more behind the scene stuff for any success.       Some you can learn from being in the business  - but the important lessons are often missed or not passed down.     

Having the finances to withstand the startup costs and 6 months of operations is one that many failed businesses can't fulfill -    That and a business model/plan that did research for their operations or sales of whatever it is they are in.      (paperwork, taxes, regulations, inspections, fee's - inventory control, payroll) just to name a few things that one must handle and control.   
...  a good cook/menu or specialty is also important in the restaurant business if you aren't buying something that is franchised and controls that stuff.   

Years ago I thought about starting a business at a "Mall" until my business plan showed what the mall rent would be - along with the startup costs...   couple of 20 year olds with no "family" name or backing weren't going to be able to make it happen.

In this case I think Miles was a pretty good cook (he had worked at Trapperz for some time) so it was most likely some of those 'many' other issues that came into play. 

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Frenchfry on July 22, 2015, 04:41:08 AM
A&P was ‘the Wal-Mart of its day.’ Now it’s filing for bankruptcy.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/07/20/ap-was-the-walmart-of-its-day-now-its-filing-for-bankruptcy/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/07/20/ap-was-the-walmart-of-its-day-now-its-filing-for-bankruptcy/)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 22, 2015, 06:28:51 AM
A&P was ‘the Wal-Mart of its day.’ Now it’s filing for bankruptcy.
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/07/20/ap-was-the-walmart-of-its-day-now-its-filing-for-bankruptcy/[/url] ([url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/07/20/ap-was-the-walmart-of-its-day-now-its-filing-for-bankruptcy/[/url])


We had an A&P in our town when I was little.  My Mom always liked shopping there.

A&P was founded about 25 years before Barney Kroger founded his first store.  Interesting to see where they've both ended up over the years.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on July 25, 2015, 11:35:17 AM
A&P was ‘the Wal-Mart of its day.’ Now it’s filing for bankruptcy.

Shouldn't they be bailed out with tax dollars too?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on July 25, 2015, 08:34:37 PM
We had an A&P in our town when I was little.  My Mom always liked shopping there.

My grandfather retired from an A&P in Pittsburgh as a butcher many years ago.
Title: Fifth Third bank is closing their branch at Dunbar and Telegraph.
Post by: BigRedDog on August 23, 2015, 09:12:04 AM
 
Well, I will say they came into Monroe very aggressively and at a time the economy was shrinking (collapsing?)...

not sure where they got their demographics from but apparently they were't accurate.

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/aug/23/fifth-third-close-nov-4/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/aug/23/fifth-third-close-nov-4/)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on August 23, 2015, 08:47:25 PM
I think their use case is changing.   Used to be about the only time I went to the bank after opening accounts was to cash or deposit a rare paper check and even then it was easier to use the ATM.   Now I can do that with my phone.     There's two more within 10 minutes of the one that's closing.

I can't believe MB&T can justify the number of branches they still have open.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on August 24, 2015, 08:24:21 PM
I think their use case is changing.   Used to be about the only time I went to the bank after opening accounts was to cash or deposit a rare paper check and even then it was easier to use the ATM.   Now I can do that with my phone.     There's two more within 10 minutes of the one that's closing.

I can't believe MB&T can justify the number of branches they still have open.

I heard MB&T is working on building another new branch......

I mean they have one downtown, and one by K-marts, and one on N Custer, so there aren't enough to chose from if they had to close one down due to a business expanding.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on August 24, 2015, 10:29:24 PM
They closed the one by the Fairgrounds... 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 24, 2015, 10:56:08 PM
They closed the one by the Fairgrounds...

IMO, MB&T is a poorly managed corporation.  Kind of like the MN.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on August 25, 2015, 09:20:21 AM
They closed the one at Nadeau Rd too, the one in the mall, and one in Dundee, but then reopened it (because it takes what, 5 minutest to drive across Dundee?)   I've never used them--are they not keeping up on technology like the bigger banks meaning their customers must do more in person?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on August 25, 2015, 10:01:26 AM
I go to the branches in Flat Rock, Milan and Monroe, and they are usually dealing with several customers at a time, when I'm there.  MB&T is geared for businesses, more than credit unions, I think.  Branches do more than cash checks.  I use them for getting change (can't do that at an ATM), making large cash deposits (can't do that at an ATM), and communicating with the bank personnel about various loans and investments.

Branches DO have their place, IMO.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Tiny on August 25, 2015, 04:48:19 PM
Do the branches still give out free lollipops?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 25, 2015, 04:53:11 PM
Does anyone give out free suckers?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on August 26, 2015, 08:28:00 AM
Do the branches still give out free lollipops?

Yes they do.

They're candy canes before Christmas, though.

And if you have a dog in your car in the drive thru, they give you a dog treat.
Title: Re: Fifth Third bank is closing their branch at Dunbar and Telegraph.
Post by: BigRedDog on August 26, 2015, 08:28:37 AM

Well, I will say they came into Monroe very aggressively and at a time the economy was shrinking (collapsing?)...

not sure where they got their demographics from but apparently they were't accurate.

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/aug/23/fifth-third-close-nov-4/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/aug/23/fifth-third-close-nov-4/[/url])


Interesting...

this article says they're closing five branches across the state but then they don't even mention the one in Monroe :-\ :-\ :-\

They list one in Flat Rock so not sure exactly how they do their counting.

Maybe the ones in Monroe are considered 'Ohio' branches.  Kroger does that with the Lambertville store...   it's considered an Ohio store for 'marketing purposes'.

http://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/index.ssf/2015/08/fifth_third_bancorp_announces.html#incart_2box_ (http://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/index.ssf/2015/08/fifth_third_bancorp_announces.html#incart_2box_)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 26, 2015, 08:30:37 AM
Does anyone give out free suckers?

Two of our state reps have been in the news quite a bit lately for that ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 26, 2015, 10:22:23 AM
Two of our state reps have been in the news quite a bit lately for that ;) ;) ;)

How forgetful of me..  The sucker and the suckee....... ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 27, 2015, 08:53:23 AM
The Crafts 2000 store on S. Dixie is finally closing.  They were originally going to close when they opened the new store in the mall and they I read where they were going to leave it open as a 'clearance' store.  I haven't read anything lately about that store but hey have lots of 'clearance' signage out along the road. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 15, 2015, 07:33:02 AM
We were at the mall yesterday...

I was talking with some of the different vendors and both said Chinese Food gal is closing her storefront in the food court. 

I'm not a big fan of Chinese but I know that lots of people seemed to enjoy her food. 

What I always enjoyed was seeing her positive attitude and work ethic.  Both people I talked to said she was leaving because her family was relocating to one of the Carolinas.  I'll kind of miss seeing her around there. 

I guess her leaving will make it simple for the Theater to expand out into the food court. 

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on December 15, 2015, 07:52:34 AM
I really don't get the theater investing in that mall.   With 2 vacant anchors and probably close to 50% vacancy in the in-line stores it seems like a risky move.  Don't get me wrong, I think the theater investment is great...but I would have been a lot less surprised to hear they were building a new facility somewhere else in town than I was to hear its going in the mall.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 15, 2015, 07:58:37 AM
I really don't get the theater investing in that mall.   With 2 vacant anchors and probably close to 50% vacancy in the in-line stores it seems like a risky move.  Don't get me wrong, I think the theater investment is great...but I would have been a lot less surprised to hear they were building a new facility somewhere else in town than I was to hear its going in the mall.

Maybe they feel they can 'survive' at that location even if the mall were to fold eventually.  If it's a typical lease situation then it will be the mall owner that makes the major inve$tment up front and it will be up to the theater to 'repay' over the years.

I did notice they had torn out a lot of carpet in the concession area in the theater.  Big rolled up pieces of old carpet scattered around and people literally walking around it.  I didn't walk in to look real close but from out in the mall it looked a little dangerous to me.

Maybe an attorney should open up in one of those vacant storefronts ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on December 15, 2015, 11:42:05 AM
WalMart,  Probably not on the closing list..I don't usually go there but did today and used a debit card for a couple hundred...checking my bank acct when i got home as i hadn't done yet today i see my debit already cleared.  Everywhere else it seems to take hours or a full day.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on December 15, 2015, 11:38:15 PM
WalMart,  Probably not on the closing list..I don't usually go there but did today and used a debit card for a couple hundred...checking my bank acct when i got home as i hadn't done yet today i see my debit already cleared.  Everywhere else it seems to take hours or a full day.
That's probably because wally world is a "bank" per se now...  in most states they have all the rights of a bank by the transactions they do/provide.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Tiny on December 16, 2015, 11:21:19 PM
WalMart,  Probably not on the closing list..I don't usually go there but did today and used a debit card for a couple hundred...checking my bank acct when i got home as i hadn't done yet today i see my debit already cleared.  Everywhere else it seems to take hours or a full day.

My debit card (used with pin #) is always instant, when used as credit it takes a couple of days.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 18, 2015, 07:57:51 AM
My wife wanted to go back to the mall again yesterday (her day off) so we went late in the afternoon.  A week before Christmas and we didn't have any trouble finding a parking spot.  There did seem to be more people in there than the last time but I didn't see any long lines except at the theater when we were leaving.

When we were there last week my wife had noticed the christopher&banks store was closing the day after Christmas.  She had a $20 certificate she needs to use but they had so little inventory left in the store that she couldn't find a thing she wanted.  Apparently they have a store in Taylor and in Toledo so we may have to make a road trip (spend $40 to save $20)!

Anyway, there will be another vacancy in that wing of the mall.

Has anyone heard where they'll move the arcade when they expand the theater?  That always seemed like one of the more popular places out there.

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 18, 2015, 08:23:49 AM
While my wife was shopping (trying to shop) at christopher&banks I went walking...

I tried to remember all (I would have settled for some) the different stores that I've seen leave over the years.  I could remember four and five stores that had been in some of the locations over the years. 

I remember probably two years after JC Penny closed up in Monroe we got a post card type ad from them inviting us to visit them in Toledo or Downriver...

The card said they were sad we had 'left them' and wanted us back...

apparently whoever did the ad campaign didn't realize that it was them that had left us!!!

They have a real nice store in Florida where we go so I will go in there and shop. 

We did go into the Hallmark store and get a birthday card for our youngest daughter... 

then to Kroger and got her a gift card for Penny's. 

Then to the post office to mail the card off to the sunshine state 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on December 18, 2015, 05:05:20 PM
Big Rapids still has a Penny's ...   Downtown!   funny how they are able to keep one.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 18, 2015, 06:20:32 PM
Big Rapids still has a Penny's ...   Downtown!   funny how they are able to keep one.

It's a college town...

I'd bet a high percent of their sales is to college students.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on December 29, 2015, 03:21:39 PM
Saw Christopher Banks about to be finishing packing up in the Mall of Monroe and Aeropostale on it's way out. Now up to 70% off. Never shopped in either store. Nothing I was interested in.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 30, 2015, 06:51:59 AM
Saw Christopher Banks about to be finishing packing up in the Mall of Monroe and Aeropostale on it's way out. Now up to 70% off. Never shopped in either store. Nothing I was interested in.

My wife shops at the Banks store for her work clothes and had been in there before Christmas because she had a coupon.  Stuff was already picked over to the point she couldn't find anything.  Sunday afternoon we went down to Perrysburg (Ohio) to their stores (they actually have two across the boulevard from each other) at Levis Commons.  Pretty neat mall...   looks like and old town and the best part was we literally parked at the front door ;D ;D ;D  It wasn't 10 steps across the wide sidewalk. 

I hadn't noticed the Aeropostale store was closing.  That's a young kids store.  My youngest will be disappointed for sure.  I always figured she spent too much there and now this proves it...  she moved and they closed down ;) ;) ;)

Going to be 'quiet' in the mall after all the Christmas vendors get moved out!

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 30, 2015, 10:00:54 AM
'Malls' seem to be going out of style pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on December 30, 2015, 10:10:08 AM
'Malls' seem to be going out of style pretty quickly.

In Monroe, yes.  That mall is dead.

Briarwood is hopping, though.  Before Christmas, I couldn't find a parking spot in their lot.  Even now they are doing great.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 30, 2015, 10:39:28 AM
'Malls' seem to be going out of style pretty quickly.

In Monroe, yes.  That mall is dead.

Briarwood is hopping, though.  Before Christmas, I couldn't find a parking spot in their lot.  Even now they are doing great.

I guess I should have clarified that although we did find a parking spot (without going around and around) it was still one of only a few in that entire block. 

After we left Levis Commons we went back up to Fallen Timbers in Maumee...   had to park seven rows out to find a spot at 3:45 in the afternoon.  We were heading to Granite City Brewery for dinner with our two oldest and their families. 

Based on those two places within an hour of the 'Mall of Monroe' I don't think malls are dying...

I just think the entire Monroe area is dying. 

I still don't know where Starbucks got their demographics that this area can sustain one of their stores...

I do wish them well though!!!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on December 30, 2015, 11:01:53 AM
Lots of people with big jobs and cash in their pockets close to Fallen Timbers and Levis. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 30, 2015, 11:39:31 AM
Lots of people with big jobs and cash in their pockets close to Fallen Timbers and Levis.

There were license plates from multiple states including Michigan so they're not all just local shoppers.

The GPS showed travel time to Perrysburg as 46 minutes when we were leaving home so about the same travel time as A2 for us. 

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Tim Heiss on December 30, 2015, 11:58:10 AM
Based on those two places within an hour of the 'Mall of Monroe' I don't think malls are dying...

I just think the entire Monroe area is dying. 
Sad but true.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: arpydave on December 30, 2015, 01:11:12 PM
'Malls' seem to be going out of style pretty quickly.

Don't forget that Northtowne on Lewis and Alexis was booming about 25 years ago, but has been gone for quite awhile now. IMHO, malls were the big thing way back when, but I think they over-saturated themselves. Kinda like Outlet malls. Maybe even Cabela's?   ???

Briarwood always been a big draw. Lotsa disposable income up that way, sorta like Levis Commons. Enough distance, and money, between the 2 of them.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Tim Heiss on December 30, 2015, 01:28:20 PM
As far as Cabela's goes, the outlots around them, are they leased out by Cabela's or were they purchased?

If they are leased, it may be beneficial for Cabela's to stay open even at a loss, so that they could continue to rake in the rent proceeds from their tenants.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on December 30, 2015, 01:44:51 PM
As far as Cabela's goes, the outlots around them, are they leased out by Cabela's or were they purchased?

If they are leased, it may be beneficial for Cabela's to stay open even at a loss, so that they could continue to rake in the rent proceeds from their tenants.
I would believe that they were all sold, but if not, the cost to run a business the size of Cabela's with the overhead alone for their own building would not even get dented by the income from those properties...especially due to the initial costs and infrastructure for those out lot properties.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on December 30, 2015, 01:58:29 PM
As far as Cabela's goes, the outlots around them, are they leased out by Cabela's or were they purchased?

If they are leased, it may be beneficial for Cabela's to stay open even at a loss, so that they could continue to rake in the rent proceeds from their tenants.
I've kind of keeping on eye on Cabela's since it was reported that Bass Pro Shops might be buying them. So far from what I'm seeing is that its still in negotiations.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on December 30, 2015, 03:34:07 PM
I think Cabelas has a better location inDundee than Bass Pro south of Toledo.  You can see Bass Pro easily enough from I75 but its a nightmare getting back there.   The state really effect them over on providing access..
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on December 30, 2015, 04:59:54 PM
'Malls' seem to be going out of style pretty quickly.

Will make it easier for the movie theater to expand with all that empty space

Probably the #1 reason most people go to the mall anymore...

One Anchor store won't cut it for long and I don't see anyone lining up for the vacant spaces.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on December 30, 2015, 05:14:00 PM
Will make it easier for the movie theater to expand with all that empty space

Probably the #1 reason most people go to the mall anymore...

One Anchor store won't cut it for long and I don't see anyone lining up for the vacant spaces.
Might be a good place for Livewire to open a long range indoor range. He could open tomorrow and wouldn't hurt anyone! Open the food court as the store and have 100 plus yard ranges in two directions. Wouldn't affect the theater at all!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 30, 2015, 07:11:12 PM
I think Cabelas has a better location inDundee than Bass Pro south of Toledo.  You can see Bass Pro easily enough from I75 but its a nightmare getting back there.   The state really  effed them over on providing access..

Last year Jim and I went to Bass Pro for some turkey calls (we were in Maumee for something...can't remember what, but I do remember having a helluva time getting into and out of the parking lot.....  roads to nowhere...lol  Extremely poor traffic patterns.

Fixed it for ya too.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 30, 2015, 07:12:59 PM
Might be a good place for Livewire to open a long range indoor range. He could open tomorrow and wouldn't hurt anyone! Open the food court as the store and have 100 plus yard ranges in two directions. Wouldn't affect the theater at all!

You covering the insurance end?  I can't imagine what the liability premium would be....  if you could get the city to grant a variance..... ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on December 30, 2015, 09:42:21 PM
I would believe that they were all sold, but if not, the cost to run a business the size of Cabela's with the overhead alone for their own building would not even get dented by the income from those properties...especially due to the initial costs and infrastructure for those out lot properties.

I'm not aware of any of those outlots around Cabela's that are leased out by Cabela's.  I agree, I think they were all sold.

I also agree that Cabela's overhead is HUGE.  They can't survive, in my opinion.  Especially in this horrible economy.

Might be a good place for Livewire to open a long range indoor range. He could open tomorrow and wouldn't hurt anyone! Open the food court as the store and have 100 plus yard ranges in two directions. Wouldn't affect the theater at all!

Not interested.  Even if I had that kind of money, I'd have to charge a LOT to pay for it, and the customers around here are, well, cheap.  They wouldn't pay it.  It would fail.  I don't even need to do any market analysis. 

If it would work, Cabelas would have done it by now.  They stay away from the shooting range business.  They're smart. 

You covering the insurance end?  I can't imagine what the liability premium would be....  if you could get the city to grant a variance..... ;D

Liability insurance is not too bad, actually.  It wouldn't be much different from my current range.  Also, I wouldn't need any variance to put an indoor range in.  Most municipalities have ordinances restricting the construction of outdoor shooting ranges, but not indoors.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 16, 2016, 08:33:25 AM
Article in the paper yesterday about Aeropostle closing at the end of the month:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2016/jan/16/aeropostale-mall-monroe-close/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2016/jan/16/aeropostale-mall-monroe-close/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

We were at the mall last night and the sign is gone and the store was dark and it's only the middle of the month.  When we were there last week they were only using about the front third of the store for merchandising. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: arpydave on January 16, 2016, 09:44:50 AM
This is really hurting down here, losing 11 in this state not to mention the slashinjg that corporate headquarters up the road is taking. I know of 1 mid-level person that's moving from Port Huron to Metro Atlanta. Sure hope she has a job when she gets there.

10,000 just added to the jobless rolls. Obammie must have hit the john and puked when he heard that.

   
Is Your Wal-Mart Closing?

http://www.wsj.com/articles/is-your-wal-mart-closing-1452888890 (http://www.wsj.com/articles/is-your-wal-mart-closing-1452888890)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 16, 2016, 10:19:55 AM
This is really hurting down here, losing 11 in this state not to mention the slashinjg that corporate headquarters up the road is taking. I know of 1 mid-level person that's moving from Port Huron to Metro Atlanta. Sure hope she has a job when she gets there.

10,000 just added to the jobless rolls. Obammie must have hit the john and puked when he heard that.

   
Is Your Wal-Mart Closing?

[url]http://www.wsj.com/articles/is-your-wal-mart-closing-1452888890[/url] ([url]http://www.wsj.com/articles/is-your-wal-mart-closing-1452888890[/url])


Free Press article this morning on two closing in Michigan...

both north of Detroit:

http://www.freep.com/story/money/business/2016/01/15/wal-mart-to-shutter-stores/78840070/ (http://www.freep.com/story/money/business/2016/01/15/wal-mart-to-shutter-stores/78840070/)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on January 16, 2016, 11:22:54 AM
Yeah... Too bad Bush caused all this.  What we need is a liberal Democrat in the White House to fix this.


Oh, wait...


Nevermind.

The economy is doing GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stupid idiotic Obama supporters.   8*


Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on January 16, 2016, 11:52:56 AM
Wait for it - the Asian Trade Agreement will fix all this...   then Wallyworld can import even more crap from China
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Frenchfry on January 16, 2016, 09:16:27 PM
Yeah... Too bad Bush caused all this.  What we need is a liberal Democrat in the White House to fix this.


Oh, wait...


Nevermind.

The economy is doing GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stupid idiotic Obama supporters.   8*
If anyone is to blame to this perceived downturn it's the republican party.

They roadblocked Obama at every turn...which is why they became known as the party of no.

The hatred toward our black President was the driving force behind their effort to limit him to one term...and that hatred still exists to this day...all the while doing their best to influence the most negatives as possible to make the historical record of Obama as bad as possible...even though the rest of America had to suffer through that republican obstructionism as well.

So the truth is...anybody that voted for a republican is a moron.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Frenchfry on January 16, 2016, 09:21:57 PM
More on Walmart:

Wal-Mart will shut down 269 stores to focus on other aspects of the business, including online sales, the company announced Friday. Among the shuttered stores will be 154 in the U.S.

Wal-Mart, however, is not shrinking. In the same announcement, the company said it is planning to open 300 more stores globally next year. Because of this, NPR's Chris Arnold described Wal-Mart's move as more of a "repositioning" rather than scaling back. He said the company will also be more heavily focused on its e-commerce business, as online marketplaces like Amazon continue to flourish.

Of the 154 U.S. Wal-Mart locations being closed, 102 of them are Wal-Mart Express stores, the company's smallest-format stores that had been in the pilot stage since 2011.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/15/463217478/walmart-to-close-269-stores-including-154-in-u-s (http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/15/463217478/walmart-to-close-269-stores-including-154-in-u-s)

===

The stores being shuttered account for a fraction of the company's 11,000 stores worldwide and less than 1 percent of its global revenue.
http://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2016-01-15/wal-mart-to-shutter-269-stores-154-of-them-in-the-us (http://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2016-01-15/wal-mart-to-shutter-269-stores-154-of-them-in-the-us)

===

List of the 154 U.S. stores Walmart is closing
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2016/01/15/list-of-walmart-stores-closing/78852898/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2016/01/15/list-of-walmart-stores-closing/78852898/)

===

Today’s action follows a thorough review of Walmart’s nearly 11,600 worldwide stores that took into account a number of factors, including financial performance as well as strategic alignment with long-term plans. In total, the impacted stores represent less than 1 percent of both global square footage and revenue.

“Actively managing our portfolio of assets is essential to maintaining a healthy business,” said Doug McMillon, president and CEO, Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.
http://news.walmart.com/news-archive/2016/01/15/walmart-continues-sharpened-focus-on-portfolio-management (http://news.walmart.com/news-archive/2016/01/15/walmart-continues-sharpened-focus-on-portfolio-management)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 16, 2016, 09:37:56 PM
More on Walmart:

Wal-Mart will shut down 269 stores to focus on other aspects of the business, including online sales, the company announced Friday. Among the shuttered stores will be 154 in the U.S.

Wal-Mart, however, is not shrinking. In the same announcement, the company said it is planning to open 300 more stores globally next year. Because of this, NPR's Chris Arnold described Wal-Mart's move as more of a "repositioning" rather than scaling back. He said the company will also be more heavily focused on its e-commerce business, as online marketplaces like Amazon continue to flourish.

Of the 154 U.S. Wal-Mart locations being closed, 102 of them are Wal-Mart Express stores, the company's smallest-format stores that had been in the pilot stage since 2011.
[url]http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/15/463217478/walmart-to-close-269-stores-including-154-in-u-s[/url] ([url]http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/15/463217478/walmart-to-close-269-stores-including-154-in-u-s[/url])

===

The stores being shuttered account for a fraction of the company's 11,000 stores worldwide and less than 1 percent of its global revenue.
[url]http://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2016-01-15/wal-mart-to-shutter-269-stores-154-of-them-in-the-us[/url] ([url]http://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2016-01-15/wal-mart-to-shutter-269-stores-154-of-them-in-the-us[/url])

===

List of the 154 U.S. stores Walmart is closing
[url]http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2016/01/15/list-of-walmart-stores-closing/78852898/[/url] ([url]http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2016/01/15/list-of-walmart-stores-closing/78852898/[/url])

===

Today’s action follows a thorough review of Walmart’s nearly 11,600 worldwide stores that took into account a number of factors, including financial performance as well as strategic alignment with long-term plans. In total, the impacted stores represent less than 1 percent of both global square footage and revenue.

“Actively managing our portfolio of assets is essential to maintaining a healthy business,” said Doug McMillon, president and CEO, Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.
[url]http://news.walmart.com/news-archive/2016/01/15/walmart-continues-sharpened-focus-on-portfolio-management[/url] ([url]http://news.walmart.com/news-archive/2016/01/15/walmart-continues-sharpened-focus-on-portfolio-management[/url])


But Obama says the Economy is just Great - so we have NOTHING to worry about.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Frenchfry on January 16, 2016, 10:09:19 PM
But Obama says the Economy is just Great - so we have NOTHING to worry about.
If not for the right-wing republican obstructionism....it could've been better.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 16, 2016, 10:33:47 PM
If not for the right-wing republican obstructionism....it could've been better.

Stop parroting what you watch on MSLSD.

Prove your assertions DICKWEED.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Frenchfry on January 16, 2016, 10:43:20 PM
Stop parroting what you watch on MSLSD.

Prove your assertions DICKWEED.
Guess the name calling means you've lost.

You never did have a cogent argument for anything anyway.

Just the usual argumentative trolling you've become known for.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Tim Heiss on January 16, 2016, 10:56:00 PM
Stop parroting what you watch on MSLSD.

Prove your assertions DICKWEED.
Hey Major Dumass, prove your assertion that Trump would be a better President.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 16, 2016, 11:07:46 PM
Hey Major Dumass, prove your assertion that Trump would be a better President.

Uhhhh......  He couldn't be much worse.....?

At least he claims Putin would deal with him.

That would be better.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Tim Heiss on January 16, 2016, 11:13:02 PM
Uhhhh......  He couldn't be much worse.....?

At least he claims Putin would deal with him.

That would be better.
Prove it.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Frenchfry on January 16, 2016, 11:22:03 PM
Prove it.
He can't

Parroting is all he knows.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 16, 2016, 11:23:47 PM
Prove it.

Prove that Trump said he could deal with Putin?

Really?

You don't have Google?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Frenchfry on January 16, 2016, 11:25:10 PM
Uhhhh......  He couldn't be much worse.....?

At least he claims Putin would deal with him.

That would be better.
Prove that Trump said he could deal with Putin?

Really?

You don't have Google?
Those two sentences are the same to you?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Tim Heiss on January 16, 2016, 11:41:08 PM
Prove that Trump said he could deal with Putin?

Really?

You don't have Google?
You just don't get it do you?

You can't prove something if it hasn't happened. It's just not possible.

Trump hasn't dealt with Putin so you can't prove that he can.

How can you prove it!?

You stated to Fry to prove that the country would have recovered faster if it hadn't been for those Republican obstructionists who conspired together to do everything in their power to oppose anything Obama proposed, regardless if it was going to help the country or not.

How can he prove it!?

Never mind, you won't get it.

Tell you what, go ahead and post one of your memes or call me a name and then run off and claim victory.

It's what you do.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on January 17, 2016, 09:18:41 AM
I don't know that I see the closing of some Walmart stores a direct reflection of the economy, but see it more as they recognized over saturation/expansion in some areas.  Some of the stores they closed were within 10 to 20 miles from an existing one.....perhaps a dumb move to begin with.  Kind of like the Cabela deal.....too many stores for the market.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on January 17, 2016, 10:38:21 AM
Jeep plant in toledo cutting product by 30% for this years model but keeping all the employees.  How's that going to work?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 17, 2016, 11:26:08 AM
Jeep plant in toledo cutting product by 30% for this years model but keeping all the employees.  How's that going to work?

They will get longer breaks and lunches so they can whip up to the Yabba-Dabba's Sunoco at Matzinger and Stickney and get stoned longer............ ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 17, 2016, 12:34:13 PM
Jeep plant in toledo cutting product by 30% for this years model but keeping all the employees.  How's that going to work?

The have been running stupid OT.

I'm guessing that all goes away.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 17, 2016, 12:37:18 PM
You just don't get it do you?

You can't prove something if it hasn't happened. It's just not possible.

Trump hasn't dealt with Putin so you can't prove that he can.

How can you prove it!?

You stated to Fry to prove that the country would have recovered faster if it hadn't been for those Republican obstructionists who conspired together to do everything in their power to oppose anything Obama proposed, regardless if it was going to help the country or not.

How can he prove it!?

Never mind, you won't get it.

Tell you what, go ahead and post one of your memes or call me a name and then run off and claim victory.

It's what you do.

You don't get it.

1.  Obama Can't deal with Putin.  That is a fact.

2.  Trump claims he WILL be able to.  That is a claim.  You can believe his bravado, or you can dismiss it.  Up to you, but he has claimed it.

3.  I never said I could prove number 2.  I merely said Trump CLAIMS he can deal with Putin.  I assume he can better than a limp wristed Liberal who thinks that appeasement is how you deal with bullies.  Anything has to be better than what we have.  This is just my OPINION.

Now - Deal with that BABY HITLER.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Tim Heiss on January 17, 2016, 01:22:20 PM
You don't get it.

1.  Obama Can't deal with Putin.  That is a fact.

2.  Trump claims he WILL be able to.  That is a claim.  You can believe his bravado, or you can dismiss it.  Up to you, but he has claimed it.

3.  I never said I could prove number 2.  I merely said Trump CLAIMS he can deal with Putin.  I assume he can better than a limp wristed Liberal who thinks that appeasement is how you deal with bullies.  Anything has to be better than what we have.  This is just my OPINION.

Now - Deal with that BABY HITLER.
Well we can finally agree that your original request for Fry to prove that the economy would be better off if not for the obstructing Republicans was an absurd request.

See that wasn't so hard now was it.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Tiny on January 18, 2016, 09:24:57 PM
You don't get it.

1.  Obama Can't deal with Putin.  That is a fact.

2.  Trump claims he WILL be able to.  That is a claim.  You can believe his bravado, or you can dismiss it.  Up to you, but he has claimed it.

3.  I never said I could prove number 2.  I merely said Trump CLAIMS he can deal with Putin.  I assume he can better than a limp wristed Liberal who thinks that appeasement is how you deal with bullies.  Anything has to be better than what we have.  This is just my OPINION.

Now - Deal with that BABY HITLER.

Claims don't mean crap...Obama claimed he was going to Change the country.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on January 19, 2016, 05:44:33 PM
Claims don't mean crap...Obama claimed he was going to Change the country.

True.

But there's a HUGE difference.

Obama did NOTHING prior to being elected.  Zip.

Actually, he did nothing positive AFTER he was elected.

Trump, however, has a lifetime of successes that he can point to.

Bottom line - Trump is MUCH more believable.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Frenchfry on January 19, 2016, 06:01:29 PM
True.

But there's a HUGE difference.

Obama did NOTHING prior to being elected.  Zip.

Actually, he did nothing positive AFTER he was elected.

Trump, however, has a lifetime of successes that he can point to.

Bottom line - Trump is MUCH more believable.
Actually it's the other way 'round.

In spite of the record obstructionism from the right...he accomplished quite a bit.

On the other hand...Trump is a serial liar.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/ (http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on January 19, 2016, 06:08:00 PM
Not a business closing". Couple of retired truckers I talk to are scared. Teamsters want to cut their pension, some by more than half.  I ask if they didn't know they kept electing a bunch of gangsters and crooks to run the Union for the last 50 years..
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Frenchfry on January 19, 2016, 06:12:51 PM
Not a business closing". Couple of retired truckers I talk to are scared. Teamsters want to cut their pension, some by more than half.  I ask if they didn't know they kept electing a bunch of gangsters and crooks to run the Union for the last 50 years..
Tell em about ERISA:
http://www.dol.gov/general/topic/health-plans/erisa (http://www.dol.gov/general/topic/health-plans/erisa)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 19, 2016, 07:38:51 PM
Not a business closing". Couple of retired truckers I talk to are scared. Teamsters want to cut their pension, some by more than half.  I ask if they didn't know they kept electing a bunch of gangsters and crooks to run the Union for the last 50 years..

More good economic news.....

 :o
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on January 19, 2016, 08:51:47 PM

In spite of the record obstructionism from the right...he accomplished quite a bit.


Really?  Like WHAT? ? ?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 19, 2016, 08:54:04 PM
Really?  Like WHAT? ? ?

He got Fry - who by the way is Management where he works - a great subsidy on a Silver Health Care Plan.

How about THAT!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on January 19, 2016, 09:09:30 PM
He got Fry - who by the way is Management where he works - a great subsidy on a Silver Health Care Plan.

How about THAT!

So Frenchie wears a different color shirt at Mickey Dees?  He probably makes 50 cents more an hour than everyone else, too.  I can't believe they trust him with a key to the restaurant.  The employee pool is awfully shallow, I guess. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Tiny on January 19, 2016, 09:19:22 PM
True.

But there's a HUGE difference.

Obama did NOTHING prior to being elected.  Zip.

Actually, he did nothing positive AFTER he was elected.

Trump, however, has a lifetime of successes that he can point to.

Bottom line - Trump is MUCH more believable.

Lifetime of successes?

After 3 business bankruptcies maybe he just got lucky. Will he get lucky with the country and Congress?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on January 20, 2016, 08:16:33 AM
Lifetime of successes?

After 3 business bankruptcies maybe he just got lucky. Will he get lucky with the country and Congress?


Actually, Trump has had four of his businesses file for bankruptcy, not three.  All of them casinos.

And that is one of the reasons he is PERFECT for the Presidency at this time.  In case you weren't aware of this, the United States has been bankrupt for a very long time.  Trump knows how to right a sinking ship.  And the Unites States is sinking... fast.  Fixing a failing business (or country) isn't easy, nor is it painless.  But it MUST be done. 

I'd MUCH rather see Trump in the White House, as opposed to another Obama, who is totally clueless as to what it takes to survive in the real world.  Hilary and Bernie are more of the same thing as Obama.  Spend like crazy, rack up the debt, destroy our military, and destroy the country for personal gain and power.  In addition, Hillary and Bernie have done nothing with their lives, except be politicians.  THAT is not an accomplishment.  They were bought, and PUT INTO power.  They have never TRIED something in real life, and failed, and picked themselves back up.  THAT is what people need to do to LEARN.


(http://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/21984/21984913b769f9cbdab1f5bf558cf32db78f5bbe.jpg) (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=21984913&showlnk=0)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on January 20, 2016, 09:56:27 AM
Some who never created jobs or held management positions (like career politicians) can't fathom what it is like in the real world...

How many failures did Edison have?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 20, 2016, 06:03:21 PM
Some who never created jobs or held management positions (like career politicians) can't fathom what it is like in the real world...

How many failures did Edison have?

Edison failed more than he succeeded.

So did Ford I believe.

Fry is the resident Management Expert - being Management himself.  I'll have to take his word for it how to best balance the cash register at the end of the night.....
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on January 20, 2016, 07:11:52 PM
I think it's hilarious when people like Fry proclaim their expertise when it comes to running a business, which is very similar to running a government, financially.  But then again, he IS in management.  So maybe he owns his own corporation or two? 


Yeah.  Right.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 20, 2016, 09:20:53 PM
Everyone manages something.  In his case, not sure what...
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on March 01, 2016, 10:52:51 AM
I went to the Mall this morning to pay my phone bill and got a surprise. Verizon has moved out to a new location... In Ohio.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on March 01, 2016, 11:05:10 AM
Hum,  I'm mention that to my friend.  He has about 100 Verizon franchise stores; Cellular Central, around the country.  A lot in Ohio.  Maybe it's time to move one to Monroe.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on March 01, 2016, 11:31:12 AM
I went to the Mall this morning to pay my phone bill and got a surprise. Verizon has moved out to a new location... In Ohio.

I've never understood why a re-seller would even put a store within a half mile of a factory store.  Monroe is pretty well saturated with cell phone stores I would say.  Plus most of the pharmacies and grocery stores all sell the prepaid ones. 

We've been out there walking in the afternoon and I'll do five laps and never see a single shopper in that store.  Guess I won't be seeing anyone in there now!

Hum,  I'm mention that to my friend.  He has about 100 Verizon franchise stores; Cellular Central, around the country.  A lot in Ohio.  Maybe it's time to move one to Monroe.

That name sounds familiar...

I'm thinking they may have had a store here several years ago. 

Anyway, I'm sure he has his own criteria to use but the last place in Monroe I'd put one is in that mall.  I haven't been walking lately (the weather has been nice enough to walk or just plain work outside) so I'll have to go out and see how many more stores have closed since Christmas.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 01, 2016, 03:21:31 PM
Sure is nice to have a company provided I-phone.  no monthly bill.  I remember back when I was issued it, cancelled my Sprint account immediately, that was about 7 years ago.  Saved me a bunch of mooolah.

I'd like them to upgrade to Samsung Galaxy Note 4's, but that is a pipedream....  Ie works and pairs with the new ride's haqndsfree stuff.  I'm happy.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on March 01, 2016, 04:19:25 PM
Sure is nice to have a company provided I-phone.  no monthly bill.  I remember back when I was issued it, cancelled my Sprint account immediately, that was about 7 years ago.  Saved me a bunch of mooolah.

I'd like them to upgrade to Samsung Galaxy Note 4's, but that is a pipedream....  Ie works and pairs with the new ride's haqndsfree stuff.  I'm happy.
And now with the encyprtion option making it spy proof - You'll probably never find an IT suggesting anything else!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on March 01, 2016, 07:14:18 PM
And now with the encyprtion option making it spy proof - You'll probably never find an IT suggesting anything else!

LOL!  That is a selling point.

If I was Google I would become uncooperative immediately.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: jbs49238 on March 05, 2016, 06:47:49 PM
Hum,  I'm mention that to my friend.  He has about 100 Verizon franchise stores; Cellular Central, around the country.  A lot in Ohio.  Maybe it's time to move one to Monroe.

All you need is adequate parking for 4-8 at a time within a short walking distance of the store front.  Almost any strip mall would work, maybe even a place downtown.  Has to be lower rent than MoM.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Tiny on March 07, 2016, 11:50:17 PM
I went to the Mall this morning to pay my phone bill and got a surprise. Verizon has moved out to a new location... In Ohio.

There is a Verizon store out front of Kohl's across from Walmart.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9549144,-83.3974314,3a,60y,42.64h,89.28t/data= (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9549144,-83.3974314,3a,60y,42.64h,89.28t/data=)!3m7!1e1!3m5!1saOfXR23QhtriwaQB6Z4Sow!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DaOfXR23QhtriwaQB6Z4Sow%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D42.460564%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Mayonnaise on March 10, 2016, 03:01:49 PM
We stopped by the military surplus store in Dundee on the way back from Ann Arbor. Was told that the store will be closing sometime next month. Except for consignments, everything else is 10% off for now and percentage to go up more later.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on March 10, 2016, 03:57:48 PM
Not a closing yet.  A record company on Secor near Sylvania Ave in Toledo was nearly shut down 5 yrs ago because the city took a year to fix infrastructure.  The owner glued hundreds of 45 and 78 records to the facade to create awareness.  Now the city is saying its blight and he has a week to remove them. 
The whole city is a blight.  I hope he closes down and moves to a suburb.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on April 07, 2016, 08:03:11 PM
I hear Marwin's is going to close.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on April 07, 2016, 09:11:48 PM
I hear Marwin's is going to close.
I heard they are closing by next week. I drove by tonight and they had quite a few cars in the lot...guess not enough.
I only went there once...for a breakfast buffet...and it was decent.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 07, 2016, 09:42:16 PM
We stopped by the military surplus store in Dundee on the way back from Ann Arbor. Was told that the store will be closing sometime next month. Except for consignments, everything else is 10% off for now and percentage to go up more later.

Where is that at???

I'm amazed the 'Beef Jerky Outlet' on M50 hasn't closed.  I never see any cars in the parking lot.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 07, 2016, 09:46:01 PM
Must be a lot of 'Clunkers' in Dumdee.  They have no less than 4 auto parts stores.  Auto-Zone, O'Riely's, NAPA Truck and Tractor on 50 past TSC and Dundee Auto Parts across from the old Fire Station...  They only need one.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on April 08, 2016, 06:36:03 AM
Must be a lot of 'Clunkers' in Dumdee.  They have no less than 4 auto parts stores.  Auto-Zone, O'Riely's, NAPA Truck and Tractor on 50 past TSC and Dundee Auto Parts across from the old Fire Station...  They only need one.

The town we're in here shows a population of around 12K but it probably has 30K snowbirds in the winter and quite a bit of tourism.

We're a couple of blocks from the AutoZone store and they're building a new O'Reiley's literally on the lot next door to the AZ...   a block down the road and across the corner is the Advance Auto Parts store.  There's a NAPA and a Carquest on down the road to the south and north six miles in Avon Park is another bunch of auto parts stores.  There can't be that much need for parts that I can see.  Some of these stores are going to have to start folding sooner or later.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 08, 2016, 02:53:51 PM
Especially when Rock Auto is so much cheaper.  The ONLY time I go to an auto parts store now is if I need it asap.  Motor oil is less at Menards or Wally World.  I don't get it, there are only so much in sales...

Typically, the 'discount' auto parts stores are 30% more than Rock and you pay tax.  At Rock, you don't.  You are aware that a Yabba-Dabba owns Rock Auto???
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on April 09, 2016, 09:22:03 PM
Especially when Rock Auto is so much cheaper.  The ONLY time I go to an auto parts store now is if I need it asap.  Motor oil is less at Menards or Wally World.  I don't get it, there are only so much in sales...

Typically, the 'discount' auto parts stores are 30% more than Rock and you pay tax.  At Rock, you don't.  You are aware that a Yabba-Dabba owns Rock Auto???

I don't care if Yabba Dabba Doo owns Rock Auto.

I can get the brand I want, at a lower price.

More selection, better prices.

All it takes is a little planning on my part.

At the local auto parts stores you get choice A or choice B, usually both bad, at higher prices.

No thanks.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 09, 2016, 11:12:58 PM
I don't care if Yabba Dabba Doo owns Rock Auto.

I can get the brand I want, at a lower price.

More selection, better prices.

All it takes is a little planning on my part.

At the local auto parts stores you get choice A or choice B, usually both bad, at higher prices.

No thanks.

I do and I don't.  I don't care that he's a successful businessman.  I do care that he probably got preferential treatment somewhere along the line because he is a yabba-dabba.

I buy there constantly.  I have a multitude of their little magnetic stick on's of classic cars stuck to my hot water tank in the shop.

Prices are excellent, shipping is always good and returns are easy.  His business ethic is excellent....for a yabba-dabba.

What I don't understand is the proliferation of discount auto stores that all sell the same thing at basically the same price.  Makes no sense to me and IMO is a piss poor business ethic.

There is an AV right next to Menards on Alexis.  Rotella 5-40 Synthetic is 21 bucks a gallon at Menards, every day.  It's 28 at AV right next door.  I can't believe anyone is that stupid to buy oil at AV, I know I don't.

You live in Detroit, all you have are yabba-dabba's that own every gas station and carryout.  All have those thick lexan windows too...... 8*
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on April 10, 2016, 07:53:38 AM
What I don't understand is the proliferation of discount auto stores that all sell the same thing at basically the same price.  Makes no sense to me and IMO is a piss poor business ethic.

That has amazed me here recently too......I see it elsewhere in the Midwest too.

Drug store development are the same way.......just looks like an oversaturated market to me for any of them to be extremely successful. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on April 10, 2016, 08:38:32 AM
That has amazed me here recently too......I see it elsewhere in the Midwest too.

Drug store development are the same way.......just looks like an oversaturated market to me for any of them to be extremely successful.

The profit margin on prescription drug markup at the corner pharmacy is unreal.

My company operates a "company" pharmacy for the employees - and they sell at cost.  I'm pretty sure they do it because it saves them money in health care dollars - along with the employees.

It is unreal what you can buy for at the Walgreens Company Pharmacy with Free Shipping vs Walgreens at M50/Telegraph.  One that I use every month was like $3 vs $17.  They even blow away "Express Scripts."

Maybe Hillary should make a commercial on that?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on April 10, 2016, 09:49:20 AM
That has amazed me here recently too......I see it elsewhere in the Midwest too.

Drug store development are the same way.......just looks like an oversaturated market to me for any of them to be extremely successful.

Do you remember back in the 80s when Perry Drugs and Perry Auto Works (maybe it was (Autoworks) were out on S. Monroe street where the old Kroger store was?

The guy that originated that idea combined the rapid expansion model to both pharmacies and auto parts under a combined business model...   

I guess these newer 'expansion' models are just late getting to the party!

He eventually sold the Pharmacies to Rite Aid and the auto parts line to some other minor player I don't even recall right now. 

I still have a floor jack out in the barn I bought from a 'sale' at the Auto Works...  Japanese or Chinese built probably but it's held up pretty decent for just personal use over the years.  It's leaking around the cylinder now and probably no parts available for it so it will probably go to R&M one of these trips.

My favorite memory of the Perry Drug store...

We were having a party at the fire station and I went into Perry to buy the liquor for the party.  I picked out fifths of several varieties but I was getting a half a gallon of rum.  The young gal that was running the check out bagged everything up in what I 'assumed' were very strong 'plastic' bags.  I picked the bags up to put in my cart and was down to the half a gallon of rum...  I picked it up by the plastic bag handles and turned to put it in the cart...

I lifted...   I turned...

the single plastic bag broke and the half gallon (glass, no plastic jugs back then) took off on an arc to intersect the floor right at the bottom of the shelves behind me...

There was a very loud 'crash' and the air was instantly filled with the unmistakable smell of 'rum'!!!

To the day they closed that store I could still smell rum in there every time I went into the store ;) ;) ;)

I always wondered if the same person checked the condoms that checked the plastic bags ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Skittelroo on April 10, 2016, 09:09:25 PM
I haven't been there so this cannot be confirmed yet, but I heard Cabela's has started having sales in preparations for leaving.   I assume Bass Pro Shops did buy them.   
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 10, 2016, 09:53:00 PM
I know they discontinued their 'Suburban Farm Tractor' line so that was being phased out with super discounts (aka: just above retail price anywhere else) but far as being bought out, I don't think so.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on April 10, 2016, 11:47:54 PM
Even if Bass Pro buys them the Dundee store will probably still stay open. Cabelas stores will in all likelihood still be Cabelas stores. They will just be owned by Bass Pro.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on April 11, 2016, 08:11:58 AM
I've heard rumblings in the gun industry that Cabela's will close.  May or may not be true.

Their marketing plan has changed, and they are DEFINITELY trimming down, at least.

I do know that Dundee will die if Cabela's closes.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Skittelroo on April 11, 2016, 08:53:06 AM
Well, if Cabela's closes, maybe the "powers that be" will realize Dundee is not a mini Ann Arbor.   
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on April 11, 2016, 09:13:14 AM
And would Bass Pro keep the Dundee place open with another Bass Pro at southern end of Toledo.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Skittelroo on April 11, 2016, 12:13:09 PM
OK, I stopped in at Cabela's and nothing looks any different to me.  The sales they have are the usual, no "bigger than normal sales" to be seen.   I asked a couple employees, and (naturally) they said they hadn't heard anything about closing -- but they aren't usually told much along this line.   So for now, I believe this is still the rumor that started at the end of last year.   

Here are a couple articles about the possibility of mergers or buy-outs for Cabela's:

http://www.kearneyhub.com/news/regional/cabela-s-faces-several-possible-futures-including-sale-to-competitor/article_fc88f68c-b2ee-11e5-ac56-df32d469f584.html (http://www.kearneyhub.com/news/regional/cabela-s-faces-several-possible-futures-including-sale-to-competitor/article_fc88f68c-b2ee-11e5-ac56-df32d469f584.html) 

- from 1/4/2016:
When the New York hedge fund, a so-called activist investor, declared its 11 percent stake in late October, it hinted that it would be forcing Cabela’s to sell the company, its real estate or its profitable credit card business.

http://www.kearneyhub.com/news/regional/cabela-s-announcement-of-shareholders-meeting-is-next-chance-for/article_18b9912a-fa68-11e5-b7b4-53dec7f57bf7.html (http://www.kearneyhub.com/news/regional/cabela-s-announcement-of-shareholders-meeting-is-next-chance-for/article_18b9912a-fa68-11e5-b7b4-53dec7f57bf7.html)

-from 4/4/2016:
Cabela’s employees and shareholders wondering what’s ahead for the Sidney, Nebraska, retailer could have an answer by the end of the month.

If past years are any indicator — and Wall Street types say they should be — Cabela’s will announce the date of the company’s annual shareholders’ meeting by the end of April.

That meeting takes on extra importance this year: It’s the first annual meeting since the company has been under pressure from a powerful “activist” investor, New York-based Elliott Management. Elliott has been pressing Cabela’s to make big changes.


But if Cabela’s announces a sale of all or parts of the company at the time of its annual meeting announcement, and Elliott is satisfied, the activist hedge fund would have little reason to take over the board.

So it’s likely any big changes at Cabela’s will be announced at the same time as the annual meeting, a number of people who track activist investors told The World-Herald.

Cabela’s declined to comment for this story. Elliott didn’t respond to a request for comment.

For many on Wall Street, it’s not a matter of whether Cabela’s will sell but when the outdoors retailer will make the sale public, and who the buyer will be.

“The assumption we’re operating under is that the company is trying to sell itself,” said Don Bilson, a research analyst with New York-based Gordon Haskett, a firm that keeps track of hedge funds.


Cabela’s lucrative credit-card business and the real estate the retailer owns both have been called out as likely candidates to be carved off and sold.
http://www.kearneyhub.com/news/regional/cabela-s-announcement-of-shareholders-meeting-is-next-chance-for/article_18b9912a-fa68-11e5-b7b4-53dec7f57bf7.html (http://www.kearneyhub.com/news/regional/cabela-s-announcement-of-shareholders-meeting-is-next-chance-for/article_18b9912a-fa68-11e5-b7b4-53dec7f57bf7.html)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 11, 2016, 06:48:32 PM
Cabelas and Foremost Bank, NA, has become a big player in the plastic business, BIG.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on April 12, 2016, 09:40:34 AM
And would Bass Pro keep the Dundee place open with another Bass Pro at southern end of Toledo.

I can see both of them maybe cutting back on some stock or maybe some duplication of high end management positions. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on May 26, 2016, 08:14:36 AM
Surprised to learn this by reading the paper instead of seeing it happen first.   No big surprise but the last remaining Food Town in Monroe is closing.   Last time I was in there, and its been a few years, it was disgusting in there and I haven't been back.

Surprising though that they have already re-leased the space and a new retailer, Family Farm and Home.   Looks to be like Tractor Supply, but maybe with better quality brands (Husqvarna, Honda, and Weber are among the brands in their current ad.)   Seems like an odd location for a store like that but who cares if it doesn't result in another empty space.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 26, 2016, 08:55:09 AM
Surprised to learn this by reading the paper instead of seeing it happen first.   No big surprise but the last remaining Food Town in Monroe is closing.   Last time I was in there, and its been a few years, it was disgusting in there and I haven't been back.

Surprising though that they have already re-leased the space and a new retailer, Family Farm and Home.   Looks to be like Tractor Supply, but maybe with better quality brands (Husqvarna, Honda, and Weber are among the brands in their current ad.)   Seems like an odd location for a store like that but who cares if it doesn't result in another empty space.

It's the old, reincarnated County Post (used to be one in Dundee on M50 on the east side of town).

I'm not impressed with them.  They have a store in Adrian on M52, just south of the 223-52 intersection, in the strip with Harbor Freight.

TSC has much better pricing btw. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 26, 2016, 09:16:08 AM
It's the old, reincarnated County Post (used to be one in Dundee on M50 on the east side of town).

I'm not impressed with them.  They have a store in Adrian on M52, just south of the 223-52 intersection, in the strip with Harbor Freight.

TSC has much better pricing btw.

I bought my chipper-shredder from them when they were closing the store. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on May 26, 2016, 09:25:52 AM
Surprised to learn this by reading the paper instead of seeing it happen first.   No big surprise but the last remaining Food Town in Monroe is closing.   Last time I was in there, and its been a few years, it was disgusting in there and I haven't been back.

Surprising though that they have already re-leased the space and a new retailer, Family Farm and Home.   Looks to be like Tractor Supply, but maybe with better quality brands (Husqvarna, Honda, and Weber are among the brands in their current ad.)   Seems like an odd location for a store like that but who cares if it doesn't result in another empty space.
Probably because they didn't own the "building" they didn't put much into remodeling and it did cost them...   contrary to the people who purchased HiLite's and have done a nice job in the changeover/remodel.

Will be interesting to see how the new business changes the interior - and if they do anything to the entrance.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 26, 2016, 10:04:09 AM
Probably because they didn't own the "building" they didn't put much into remodeling and it did cost them...   contrary to the people who purchased HiLite's and have done a nice job in the changeover/remodel.

Will be interesting to see how the new business changes the interior - and if they do anything to the entrance.

The owner of the complex didn't put much into that end either.  Always found it was interesting to see the difference between the north end (brand new well maintained GoodWill store) down to the FoodTown store...   drive around back and look at the general lack of maintenance (other than the new addition).
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on May 26, 2016, 10:06:50 AM
The FoodTown in Temperance is nice.  They closed the one in Lambertville for a redo.  But i don't see them redoing much.  I was told they are not owned by same person(s). 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 27, 2016, 10:05:44 AM
The FoodTown in Temperance is nice.  They closed the one in Lambertville for a redo.  But i don't see them redoing much.  I was told they are not owned by same person(s).

In all my years I've never been in the one in Lambertville...

we stop at the one in Temperance occasionally...

I've been in the one in Monroe a few times but the last couple of times it was so yucky I really didn't want to go back.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on May 27, 2016, 10:11:14 AM
Lambertville was supposedly going to be a more upscale market (think Whole Foods) which would probably do well down there.   Similar to what Hi-Lite was supposedly doing, though I haven't seen much sign of that yet.  Maybe they are waiting to finish construction, some year, before starting to change their inventory.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: excelsior on July 08, 2016, 11:34:26 PM


It appears that the Produce Fresh Market on Telegraph has closed for good.  It is too bad.   Looks like I will have to go veggie shopping when I am out of town.


http://www.producemonroe.com (http://www.producemonroe.com)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on August 13, 2016, 12:56:30 AM
Ruby Tuesday to close 95 locations within the next three weeks

http://www.heraldcourier.com/news/ruby-tuesday-to-close-locations-within-the-next-three-weeks/article_7b297e1c-60af-11e6-a81e-e76cd12ddf9d.html (http://www.heraldcourier.com/news/ruby-tuesday-to-close-locations-within-the-next-three-weeks/article_7b297e1c-60af-11e6-a81e-e76cd12ddf9d.html)

Haven't been in years to the one in Monroe - The article says they havn't released locations
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 13, 2016, 08:23:41 AM
Ruby Tuesday to close 95 locations within the next three weeks

[url]http://www.heraldcourier.com/news/ruby-tuesday-to-close-locations-within-the-next-three-weeks/article_7b297e1c-60af-11e6-a81e-e76cd12ddf9d.html[/url] ([url]http://www.heraldcourier.com/news/ruby-tuesday-to-close-locations-within-the-next-three-weeks/article_7b297e1c-60af-11e6-a81e-e76cd12ddf9d.html[/url])

Haven't been in years to the one in Monroe - The article says they havn't released locations


We were just talking about how long it's been since we've been in there.  I say close it and put in another pizza joint...

that's what Monroe really needs ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Tiny on August 15, 2016, 08:55:44 PM
I wish they would bring back Ponderosa Steakhouse, I always like that place back in the 1970's. They had boneless rib-eye steaks you could cut with a fork.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: excelsior on August 15, 2016, 09:05:16 PM
I wish they would bring back Ponderosa Steakhouse, I always like that place back in the 1970's. They had boneless rib-eye steaks you could cut with a fork.



Ponderosa #1291
19014 Van Born Rd.
Dearborn Heights, MI 48125

http://ponderosasteakhouses.com/locations/ (http://ponderosasteakhouses.com/locations/)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Tiny on August 15, 2016, 09:12:08 PM

Ponderosa #1291
19014 Van Born Rd.
Dearborn Heights, MI 48125

[url]http://ponderosasteakhouses.com/locations/[/url] ([url]http://ponderosasteakhouses.com/locations/[/url])



Thanks, it looks even better than it was back then. I'll have to head up there soon. We used to go to their Tuesday night special - Rib-eye steak, baked potato, salad and drink, plus dessert bar for $2.50. Won't get that anymore.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 15, 2016, 09:59:29 PM
I wish they would bring back Ponderosa Steakhouse, I always like that place back in the 1970's. They had boneless rib-eye steaks you could cut with a fork.

Thats because they got marinated in tenderizer.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: rwwjr on August 16, 2016, 11:47:35 AM
Thanks, it looks even better than it was back then. I'll have to head up there soon. We used to go to their Tuesday night special - Rib-eye steak, baked potato, salad and drink, plus dessert bar for $2.50. Won't get that anymore.

Monroe Talks group road trip?  I may have to go too.  I have seen one in Midland but thats about all I can remember
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 16, 2016, 12:12:04 PM
I wish they would bring back Ponderosa Steakhouse, I always like that place back in the 1970's. They had boneless rib-eye steaks you could cut with a fork.

My first job when I returned from the Army was working in a marina in Bay City.  Some guy that owned several of them (seems like he may have been from Indiana but not positive on that) would buy a new boat from us every 2 or 3 years and then stored it there in the winter.  Not sure where he took it in the summer but I'm sure there are many local stories surrounding it wherever it went.

In the spring after we would get it in the water it would be tied up at one of our docks for several weeks before it left for 'wherever'.  We could always tell when 'he' was going to be there because early on the gals would start showing up and 'sunning' themselves on the boat.  It wasn't uncommon for there to be a dozen or so before he showed up with a few more in tow. 

I was only 23-24 at the time and some of those gals appeared quite 'young' to me. 

Every once in a while someone would complain that the girls were going topless on the boat (I can assure you it was not any of the employees at the marina  ;D ;D ;D ).  I can only imagine what some of those 'cruises' must have been like!!!

The guy was probably late 30s to mid 40s...

really hard to tell because he was just not a good looking guys...

Many times I wondered just what all those gals could possibly see in him...

I was raised in a fairly sheltered atmosphere so I was still a bit naive even after a couple of years in the Army...

as I got older I figured it out though ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on October 03, 2016, 02:11:15 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/bass-pro-shops-to-acquire-cabelas-2016-10 (http://www.businessinsider.com/bass-pro-shops-to-acquire-cabelas-2016-10)

Worst Kept business secret is out... 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 03, 2016, 02:41:56 PM
[url]http://www.businessinsider.com/bass-pro-shops-to-acquire-cabelas-2016-10[/url] ([url]http://www.businessinsider.com/bass-pro-shops-to-acquire-cabelas-2016-10[/url])

Worst Kept business secret is out...


But will they be closing one name or the other?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 03, 2016, 03:30:25 PM
But will they be closing one name or the other?

Neither.  Everything stays as it is...for now.

I thought for a moment that MT was closing...lol
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: T-M-T on December 28, 2016, 09:25:34 AM
Anybody know what happened to J's Smokehouse?  I drove by the other day and it was closed with a real estate sign in the front window.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on December 28, 2016, 09:41:52 AM
Bad service, inconsistent food ??  Every time I went there they were out of something. Half the time the ribs were over cooked. We were the only ones in there and still had to ask for refills.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on December 28, 2016, 10:20:20 AM
The service and menu availability was getting much worse in the last year or so.  I patronized them often because I the place was so close and convenient for take out orders.  I will miss the sauce....the guys did a great job on that.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on December 28, 2016, 11:57:48 AM
Any word on which stores at the mall will be leaving this year?   Its an annual tradition anymore...
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: excelsior on December 28, 2016, 12:06:48 PM
Anybody know what happened to J's Smokehouse?  I drove by the other day and it was closed with a real estate sign in the front window.

Looks like they moved:


If you haven't heard, we moved into The Other Place bar and grill located at 1090 North Dixie across the street from heck park. We are serving our full menu saturday and sunday and going full time starting tuesday.
Smokehouse lives!

https://www.facebook.com/js.smokehouse/ (https://www.facebook.com/js.smokehouse/)


Prof H. should fire up the Lincoln and we can hit this place when we go trampoline shopping.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on December 28, 2016, 12:14:34 PM
Any word on which stores at the mall will be leaving this year?   Its an annual tradition anymore...

I heard Mav is going to buy the entire place and run all the merchants out so it can be converted to a grow and distribution operation.   ;D  My idol!

Looks like they moved:


If you haven't heard, we moved into The Other Place bar and grill located at 1090 North Dixie across the street from heck park. We are serving our full menu saturday and sunday and going full time starting tuesday.
Smokehouse lives!

https://www.facebook.com/js.smokehouse/ (https://www.facebook.com/js.smokehouse/)


Prof H. should fire up the Lincoln and we can hit this place when we go trampoline shopping.

Thanks for that update TMT - hope all is fine and you and yours are having a Happy Holiday season!

Hopefully that works out to be a better location for them......as busy as M50 is near my place I'm not certain a lot of that traffic stopped there to take something home with them.  Out there may be a better location.....and NOW Mrs. Fuzz can swing by there on the way home from work.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: excelsior on December 28, 2016, 12:23:36 PM
I heard Mav is going to buy the entire place and run all the merchants out so it can be converted to a grow and distribution operation.   ;D  My idol!

Thanks for that update TMT - hope all is fine and you and yours are having a Happy Holiday season!

Hopefully that works out to be a better location for them......as busy as M50 is near my place I'm not certain a lot of that traffic stopped there to take something home with them.  Out there may be a better location.....and NOW Mrs. Fuzz can swing by there on the way home from work.

TMT?

I think if they cater to the truckers stopping at the truck stops they could do pretty well at the new location.    Might need a shuttle running to bring them in.   
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 28, 2016, 03:32:28 PM
TMT?

I think if they cater to the truckers stopping at the truck stops they could do pretty well at the new location.    Might need a shuttle running to bring them in.   

Most of the 'truckers' who stop at that truckstop eat goat or gyro's not BBQ.  IOW. towel heads.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 28, 2016, 06:21:35 PM
Anyone know the story on J&L Upholstery?

Tried to go their today - but it is a heating a cooling place now.

Called the number and it is disconnected.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on December 28, 2016, 08:23:27 PM
I heard Mav is going to buy the entire place and run all the merchants out so it can be converted to a grow and distribution operation.   ;D  My idol!

Thanks for that update TMT - hope all is fine and you and yours are having a Happy Holiday season!
I made an offer on the place contingent on them putting in a retractable roof. Haven't heard back from them ????

Hopefully that works out to be a better location for them......as busy as M50 is near my place I'm not certain a lot of that traffic stopped there to take something home with them.  Out there may be a better location.....and NOW Mrs. Fuzz can swing by there on the way home from work.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on December 28, 2016, 08:51:29 PM
LOL
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on December 29, 2016, 11:56:59 AM
Anyone know the story on J&L Upholstery?

Tried to go their today - but it is a heating a cooling place now.

Called the number and it is disconnected.

Like most "family" businesses - when the kids take over they think things will run themselves? 

Is there any upholstery places left around?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on December 29, 2016, 12:03:08 PM
Theres one right next door. Years ago the brothers decided they hateed each other so one of them built an upholstery shop right next door.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on December 29, 2016, 12:13:07 PM
LOL, that's funny and didn't know that.  I used one of them a few years back, good work and interesting shop.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on December 29, 2016, 04:05:03 PM
I think it was the one brother's kids that opened the new one when the other brother brought in his kids who now run the original one.   Probably a good move on the latter's part since that one is the one still in business.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 29, 2016, 06:00:07 PM
Theres one right next door. Years ago the brothers decided they hateed each other so one of them built an upholstery shop right next door.

I knew that story....  just wondered what happened to Hoffmans #2.

Now Bush Htg & Cooling.

Did the family reconcile?  Retirement?  Just curious.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on January 01, 2017, 11:29:06 PM
I see a new restaurant in the old Chili place  at the strip mall Telegraph & Front
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on January 06, 2017, 07:09:44 AM
Looks like they moved:


If you haven't heard, we moved into The Other Place bar and grill located at 1090 North Dixie across the street from heck park. We are serving our full menu saturday and sunday and going full time starting tuesday.
Smokehouse lives!

https://www.facebook.com/js.smokehouse/ (https://www.facebook.com/js.smokehouse/)


Prof H. should fire up the Lincoln and we can hit this place when we go trampoline shopping.

I've seen several facebook posts from J saying he's working as a bartender at the OP.  I'm not entirely sure how (or if) he's serving BBQ while he's bartending...

But I wish him well.

Running ANY type of small business these days is tough. 

I'm surprised his restaurant stayed open as long as it did.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 10, 2017, 12:13:20 PM
2 recent ones in Petersburg.  The hardware store closed up (the owner secured a position with Summerfield schools as athletic director and closed the business...and

Coach and Carriage Auto parts closed up (longtime business).  I suspect with the discount auto parts stores nearby (Auto Zine and O'Reily in Dumbdee, it was too difficult to stay afloat.

Too bad.  I hate seeing local business go tits up.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on January 11, 2017, 08:05:57 AM
Milan Bakery and Diner just went out of business. 

They started as a very successful little bakery in downtown Milan, then they remodeled that whole block of the city, and they moved out to another location on Dexter Road, by the freeway.  MUCH bigger building, with a complete restaurant attached.  Selling bread and donuts is totally different from running a full restaurant.

It was just too much for them to handle.  I know the owner of the building... I plow their snow.  I ate there frequently, trying to give them some business.

It's really a shame that all these little businesses are struggling so much. 

If anyone says our economy is flourishing, they are either a fool, or a liar.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 11, 2017, 10:54:29 AM
You and I both know that when in business, you only 'grow' as much as you can afford with ling term projections.  SB owners get a 'pie in the sky' vision, borrow funding and then go tits up because the financial projection isn't reality.

Pie in the sky only works in politics and entites that can tax.  Not for profit business.

Too bad but probably predictable....
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 11, 2017, 07:46:25 PM
If anyone says our economy is flourishing, they are either a fool, or a liar.

They could just be a Dummycrat.

Baby Hitler says things are swell.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on January 11, 2017, 11:42:19 PM
Will take Fermi III and Ford to revisit the vast land for future business propsects to get our region on all cylinders for a while.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 12, 2017, 09:42:05 AM
Like most "family" businesses - when the kids take over they think things will run themselves? 

Is there any upholstery places left around?

In Blissfield.  Been there forever and does a bang up job too.  Corner of Lane and 223.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on January 15, 2017, 07:44:45 PM
The Andersons closing its 4 retail stores in 2nd Qtr of 2017..
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: T-M-T on January 15, 2017, 07:47:24 PM
The Andersons closing its 4 retail stores in 2nd Qtr of 2017..

And putting 1,000 people out of work.  Thanks, Trump!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on January 15, 2017, 08:36:18 PM
And putting 1,000 people out of work.  Thanks, Trump!

LOL   Your buddy Obama has to take the credit for this one  :)       

Actually -
Retail outlets are a changing world - too many online shoppers to keep some stores viable.   Its the Amazon effect - and will cycle through in the next few years.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on January 15, 2017, 08:40:34 PM
I always sa a lot of people at the Toledo store and friends say the Maumee store  always busy.
Some time ago there was an attempt to take over Andersons. This may be an effort to shore up profits to thwart that
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on January 15, 2017, 08:44:08 PM
Lot of big retail having issues. Macy's JCP. Sears. Kmart. Probably others. People getting lazy and would rather have everything delivered to home.  Kroger says email orders for front door pickup increasing..
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 15, 2017, 09:22:56 PM
Lot of big retail having issues. Macy's JCP. Sears. Kmart. Probably others. People getting lazy and would rather have everything delivered to home.  Kroger says email orders for front door pickup increasing..

For me it's not being lazy.

It is getting what closer to what you want in less time.

Why buy what they have in stock in the local store when I can have access to a far larger inventory to select from - and get exactly what I want?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on January 15, 2017, 09:47:20 PM
Trucking industry looking to double trucks on the road in next 5 years.. Where they going to put them all?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 15, 2017, 11:12:27 PM
Trucking industry looking to double trucks on the road in next 5 years.. Where they going to put them all?

Won't happen, no qualified drivers, especially if Trump whacks the immigration influx.  The only drivers left are rag heads and wet backs.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 15, 2017, 11:23:03 PM
For me it's not being lazy.

It is getting what closer to what you want in less time.

Why buy what they have in stock in the local store when I can have access to a far larger inventory to select from - and get exactly what I want?


.........and usually pay no sales tax either....  an added bonus.  I buy probably 85% on line.  100% of my reloading supplies.

I only buy local if it's a 'need now' thing.

Andersons is closing out the retail stores in Toledo and Columbus.  I figured it was only a matter of time that they would get out of the retail business.

Additionally, Lowes is following the Menards 11% off everything at select stores (Adrian is one).  Me thinks Lowes and Home Despot is taking a flogging from Menards.  I shop Menards regularly (Alexis Road).  Nice people, helpful, clean store, big selection and good prices too.  Sometimes even better than online.  Bought a battery for the wife's buggy, had to order it, be in this week but it was $79.99 - 11% rebate at Menards and the cheapest I could get it online was 139 bucks.  I'll pay the Lucass 7% sales tax when the price is that good.

The retail business is extremely cut throat.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Tim Heiss on January 16, 2017, 08:26:43 AM
I always sa a lot of people at the Toledo store and friends say the Maumee store  always busy.
Some time ago there was an attempt to take over Andersons. This may be an effort to shore up profits to thwart that

Actually they may be getting rid of the retail to support the buyout. It's in the article
http://www.toledoblade.com/Retail/2017/01/15/The-Andersons-to-close-its-stores-affecting-1-050-employees.html (http://www.toledoblade.com/Retail/2017/01/15/The-Andersons-to-close-its-stores-affecting-1-050-employees.html)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on January 16, 2017, 10:11:39 AM
Actually they may be getting rid of the retail to support the buyout. It's in the article
[url]http://www.toledoblade.com/Retail/2017/01/15/The-Andersons-to-close-its-stores-affecting-1-050-employees.html[/url] ([url]http://www.toledoblade.com/Retail/2017/01/15/The-Andersons-to-close-its-stores-affecting-1-050-employees.html[/url])


Thought the same thing.  There seems to be many ways to eliminate items in the store that might make them profitable.  Go back to the basics that served them.  Farm supplies and garden products..
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on January 18, 2017, 07:46:36 AM
And putting 1,000 people out of work.  Thanks, Trump!

Why is Trump to blame for the Anderson's closing stores?

He's not even President yet!

Don't you think there are other reasons why a multi-billion dollar company made that decision?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on January 18, 2017, 07:47:54 AM
They could just be a Dummycrat.

Baby Hitler says things are swell.


Have Baby Hitler tell that to the owners and employees of the Milan Bakery.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 18, 2017, 09:35:31 AM
I believe the retail arm is a very small portion of their business.  Andersons is into everything including ethanol alcohol distilling.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on January 18, 2017, 10:00:07 AM
This is it right here!!
"It is possible that The Andersons could have been getting pressure from Wall Street to get rid of its retail. Approximately 74.4 percent of its stock, which is traded on the Nasdaq market, is owned by Institutional investors or mutual funds."

Wall Street dominates publicly traded companies.  They put pressure on them to do what they want or they dump your stock.  Corporation CEO's make regular trips to Wall Street at the request of Wall Street bankers..
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on January 18, 2017, 12:25:35 PM
Also, why would any company want to spend over $2M per year more than revenue to run retail stores year after year.   The fact they let it go on for 8 years says a lot about their commitment to the region, but at some point you have to call it off.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 18, 2017, 01:13:40 PM
I can see the unemployment stats for Lucas County will go up appreciably. 

Maybe Kaisch could buy the stores....  He seemed to be able to well afford running for Pres and eating a lot of pancake breakfasts... 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on January 18, 2017, 03:59:10 PM
They probably weren't losing money for 8 years.  A couple of good finance people can work wonders..
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: arpydave on January 18, 2017, 08:23:33 PM
When I lived up there I went to The Anderson's a couple of times. Disappointing except for them having authentic Wisc. Usinger brand sausages. Oh, and they had andouille before Cajun and Creole was fashionable.

I had a few co-workers that could be called in the Old Days as "Gentleman Farmers." Except they toiled their acreage after working hours as hard as anybody. SCF may have even rubbed elbows with a few of them in passing.

We all agreed. The Anderson's was nothing better than a "Yuppie's version of Tractor Supply Co." And the prices reflected it.

Sure glad that Jerry made it towards the top of DTE.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on January 19, 2017, 11:05:50 PM
I know y'all will miss it dearly, but sadly American Eagle Outfitters has departed the mall.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on January 20, 2017, 11:02:37 AM
I think outfits like American Eagle do better with internet sales
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 20, 2017, 05:12:35 PM
I know y'all will miss it dearly, but sadly American Eagle Outfitters has departed the mall.

Never heard of them.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: T-M-T on January 24, 2017, 10:43:44 AM
If Carite isn't closing, they are doing a pretty good job of looking like it.  No cars for sale in the parking lot the last few days and the inside of the building looks fairly empty.  FWIW, Google maps lists the location as "permanently closed."  I hope it's not back to an abandoned dealership like it was for awhile after the Lincoln dealer closed.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on January 24, 2017, 03:21:08 PM
I have never really looked into the success rate of those companies (Carmax, Carite) that are in the retail market.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 24, 2017, 03:45:54 PM
I have never really looked into the success rate of those companies (Carmax, Carite) that are in the retail market.

Someone (on here) said their business ethic was to 'make a killing' on every unit sold.  I learned long ago to never, never buy a local car no matter how good the price was.  People around here drive way too fast on crap roads and beat the cars to death.  Bought my last one 2014 Ford Focus off lease, north of Detroit and first thing I did before I bought it was I had the dealership (Varsity) put the car up on a lift so I could inspect it underneath.  At that point, it was obvious to me that the car had never see a crap road and no gravel sandblasting of the undercarrige, so I bought it.

Like the guy who comes down our bombed out, pothole ridden mud path every night in his Chevy 1 ton pickup....  at 55.  I can tell it's sucumbing to the thrashing, it's getting louder and louder and you can hear the suspension crying.  People around here are so stupid.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on January 24, 2017, 04:35:02 PM
I haven't bought a used car in a few decades now, but I would have the same inspection done on a used vehicle if I did.

I was wondering from an investment standpoint as far a their success rate. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 24, 2017, 10:10:17 PM
I haven't bought a used car in a few decades now, but I would have the same inspection done on a used vehicle if I did.

I was wondering from an investment standpoint as far a their success rate.

Fuzz...

From a depreciation standpoint (and the fact I'm retired now), buying a used (preferably off lease late model vehicle) has a lot of positives, most noteable is, the first owner / leasee took the depreciation.  I bought this Ford for basically 50% of the sticker price (I have the sticker) with the service records from the selling (new) dealer.  That is too hard to pass up and it's still under factory warranty (until next month when the 70K extended Ford warranty kicks in.

CL will probably follow suit when she needs a new buggy and she will at some point.

Hoping this is my last buggy...lol
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on January 25, 2017, 06:01:31 AM
Understood Flip.

I have most likely purchased my last new vehicle as well, at least for me.  There is no doubt value in the used car market and one that I participated in for years and intend to do again.  My needs were just different that last few decades......since I entertained customers on occasion and put on the miles that I did it served my purpose to go the new route.  Those days are winding down.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 25, 2017, 12:20:51 PM
Never been 'comfortable' with any independent used car lot for a couple reasons.  Mainly, most haven't the capabilities of doing anything other than washing the cars and detailing the inside, nothing mechanically and outfits like 'Carite' put me in mind of a fly by night operation that may or may not be around in a year or so.

No issue (with me at least) of buying a late model off leas from an authorized (for that make) dealer with an actual service department and some longevity and I'd never buy say a Ford used vehicle from a GM dealership no matter how good the price was.  While all motor vehicles share many aspects, I don't want 'Mr. Goodwrench' fixing my Ford.  I want an ASAE Ford trained 'goodwrench' working on it.

Like warranties (extended).  When I purchased this Ford from Varsity the salesperson pushed me to take the extended warranty through the dealership ad of course I declined.  Why get a get an extended warranty through a dealer who gets a kickback (which is industry standard), when all one has to do is read the owners manual (most people don't) and in the manual under the warranty section, it's plainly spelled out that initiate an extended warranty, call this number, which I did and got a genuine Ford Warranty (good at any authorized dealer, with no kickback and no hassle.

Ordinarily, I'm not an extended warranty person but I do have the knowledge about lowest bidder components and cars today have complex systems so I got the warranty.  I may never use it but I figure an electronic component failure will pay for it.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 26, 2017, 08:12:55 PM
Hoping this is my last buggy...lol

LOL - Not planning on living much longer?

 ;)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 26, 2017, 11:42:48 PM
LOL - Not planning on living much longer?

 ;)

Lets see, I still have my 1997 F350 that I bought new and I drive it every spring, summer and fall and I maintain my vehicles, I would still have my Tracker if I hadn't been t Boned by a deer last winter.

The Focus mechanically is pretty simple other than it's a GDI engine.  Got a manual 5 speed and I'm real good with clutches, never replaced one in any car I owned, some went 150K.  Got the extended warranty too.  With proper care and feeding it should easily go 10 years, maybe 15.  Ten will put me at 76 and 15, I ain't gonna be driving then....  maybe an electric scooter but thats it.

We all live until we die, some sooner than others.  You are getting older at the same rate I am don't forget it....

You want to look at my firearm collection maybe? ;D  Only one for sale and you know which one that is.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 27, 2017, 05:43:43 PM
Lets see, I still have my 1997 F350 that I bought new and I drive it every spring, summer and fall and I maintain my vehicles, I would still have my Tracker if I hadn't been t Boned by a deer last winter.

The Focus mechanically is pretty simple other than it's a GDI engine.  Got a manual 5 speed and I'm real good with clutches, never replaced one in any car I owned, some went 150K.  Got the extended warranty too.  With proper care and feeding it should easily go 10 years, maybe 15.  Ten will put me at 76 and 15, I ain't gonna be driving then....  maybe an electric scooter but thats it.

We all live until we die, some sooner than others.  You are getting older at the same rate I am don't forget it....

You want to look at my firearm collection maybe? ;D  Only one for sale and you know which one that is.

Shite happens with cars, no matter how much you do to them.

It's those pesky lights that no one, not even they guy that designed the shite can explain that kills them now.

I guess if you don't mind driving with a Christmas Tree lit up on your cluster, and it keeps starting you are in like Flynn.

By the way - my truck is older than your truck.  I think it is the last one I'll ever need.

 ;)

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 27, 2017, 09:00:21 PM
Shite happens with cars, no matter how much you do to them.

It's those pesky lights that no one, not even they guy that designed the shite can explain that kills them now.

I guess if you don't mind driving with a Christmas Tree lit up on your cluster, and it keeps starting you are in like Flynn.

By the way - my truck is older than your truck.  I think it is the last one I'll ever need.

 ;)

Didn't know you had a truck, never seen it.  Is it a garage queen?  Is it rusty?  Does it actually run?

My solution for an errant idiot light is black electrical tape...  if I had that issue.  As of yet, I don't. 

Gonna need a new windshield in my 1997.  It's getting moisture intrusion near the edges at the top (cheap azz Guardian laminate)...  I have full coverage, all I need is a good stone hit and then it's new windshield time...
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 28, 2017, 11:49:52 AM
Didn't know you had a truck, never seen it.  Is it a garage queen?  Is it rusty?  Does it actually run?

My solution for an errant idiot light is black electrical tape...  if I had that issue.  As of yet, I don't. 

Gonna need a new windshield in my 1997.  It's getting moisture intrusion near the edges at the top (cheap azz Guardian laminate)...  I have full coverage, all I need is a good stone hit and then it's new windshield time...

Quote
Didn't know you had a truck, never seen it.

How would you have?  I never brought it out to your place.  Why drive something I own down your wretched road?

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Is it a garage queen?

Even more than your truck is.  I get it out when I need a truck.

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Is it rusty?

Not really.  It looks great.

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Does it actually run?

Yes, and everything works but the AC.  If you can score me some old fashioned freon we can make that work too.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 28, 2017, 03:48:06 PM
Far as my wretched road is concerned, take it up with the Moron County Road (comedy) Comission, all roads out here are wretched.  Come think about, some roads over your way, are as well.

After 32 years out here, I deal with it and drive oh so slowly.... and of course laugh at the idiots whizzing by the house at 55 or better....  sometimes approaching 100.....  I find it amazing that more don't become statistics.

Make and model please??

My AC works tits.  one up on ya.  You can buy non cfc refrigerant that's compatible with you pre non cfc system you know?  Mine is doing well with R11 thank you (and I do have a 10 pound bottle of it, but I'm not sharing.

...and I have no dash cluster lights either (just so you know).
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on January 28, 2017, 04:03:35 PM
I have 1 can of the old fashioned freon. Been in my garage for years.  Didn't want to throw in trash
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 28, 2017, 04:18:57 PM
I have 1 can of the old fashioned freon. Been in my garage for years.  Didn't want to throw in trash

Don't.  It's worth quite a bit.

R11, 11A are much more efficient at thermal transfer than the current non-cfc crap.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on January 28, 2017, 04:51:13 PM
It's a 14 oz can of 12..
Anybody can have it if they have a use for it
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 28, 2017, 08:02:09 PM
It's a 14 oz can of 12..
Anybody can have it if they have a use for it

Sold Blue2!

I have lots of uses for it.  I have a fleet of Fords that still use the stuff, and 2/3 need some right now.

The new stuff isn't as efficient as R11 - and the lubricants aren't compatible either.

To switch  over you need to get as much of the old oil out as you can, and I'm told it is best to change the canister because that is where much of it gets accumulated, and then suck it out and hope for the best.

I'd rather stick to the old stuff - but you need a license to buy it, and the guys I know who can live almost to Flint, and I never got around to driving up there.

I have the vacuum pump and everything....  just need the Freon and to change a seal.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on January 28, 2017, 08:18:28 PM
You probably don't need it this month but we can hook up and I'll give it to you.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 28, 2017, 08:51:48 PM
You are correct.

All the cars that would need it are stored away, so there is no rush.

We can hook up when I'll be heading to the south county - I'll send you a note.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on January 28, 2017, 09:42:58 PM
That will prob work
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: indy99 on January 29, 2017, 01:14:42 AM
Didn't know you had a truck, never seen it.  Is it a garage queen?  Is it rusty?  Does it actually run?

My solution for an errant idiot light is black electrical tape...  if I had that issue.  As of yet, I don't. 

Gonna need a new windshield in my 1997.  It's getting moisture intrusion near the edges at the top (cheap azz Guardian laminate)...  I have full coverage, all I need is a good stone hit and then it's new windshield time...

A hammer is your friend.   cough cough.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on January 31, 2017, 08:19:24 AM
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/yanfeng-automotive-interiors-laying-off-321-employees (http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/yanfeng-automotive-interiors-laying-off-321-employees)

One of the affected plants is in Frenchtown  -  wonder why?   with all the boom projected - they must have lost a contract?   
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on January 31, 2017, 10:40:30 AM
My guess is consolidation of capacity from their original plants to the ones they picked up from the Johnson Controls Interior Business Unit.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on January 31, 2017, 10:45:38 AM
They lost a contract for a Jeep vehicle moving from Toledo to Belvidere, IL.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 31, 2017, 01:16:11 PM
The auto business is very cut throat anyway.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 31, 2017, 01:24:05 PM
Downtown Petersburg is starting to look Deerfield (aka:  Deadfield).  Not much lest anymore business wise.

Cabin Creek pizza went tits up
P'Burg Hardware went tits up
Coach and Carriage Auto went tits up
One bar went tits up
The elevator went tits up

About all that is still there is:

MB&T Bank
Papas Restorant (for sale)
Walnut Bar
Hair salon
gas station (owned by a rag head but a nice rag head)..

Thriving metropolis.

Deerfield...

Gas station
VFW
Deerfield Grocerette

Another thriving metropolis.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 31, 2017, 09:01:01 PM
At least you can get a beer at the VFW - if you are a vet or know a vet.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 31, 2017, 09:18:16 PM
The one in Deerfield is only open for parties I think.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on February 01, 2017, 07:34:13 PM
I guess if I was a Vet I would just go on up the road to Dundee then....

 8*
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on February 01, 2017, 07:52:58 PM
There is one south of P'Burg on Teal Road too.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on March 07, 2017, 09:49:50 AM
Lots of national retailers with local outlets on bankruptcy watch.   Sears/Kmart, RadioShack (reportedly could file again as soon as today and will close all stores), Payless Shoes, Rue21, Claires, Vanity (already filed, closing all stores), The Bon Ton (parent of Carsons)   That list includes 5 of the remaining 29 real tenants listed for the Mall of Monroe, not including office/security/kiosks/vending machines and Applebees which isn't even in the mall.

Regionally, MC Sports and Family Christian Books are in liquidation and rumors are swirling that Gander Mountain will soon file.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on March 08, 2017, 12:32:53 PM
The amazon affect... 

Just think Sears was the original "mail" order and over time lost that edge - 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on March 08, 2017, 12:40:08 PM
I was watching American Pickers recently and they ran across some Sears catalogs that had home kits including materials.......I had forgotten about seeing those when I was a kid.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 08, 2017, 04:04:27 PM
I was watching American Pickers recently and they ran across some Sears catalogs that had home kits including materials.......I had forgotten about seeing those when I was a kid.

If you go down Summerfield Road (S) toward 23, between Lulu and Ida Center on the east side of the road, there are 2 Sears catalog houses.  Nice homes.

sears Roebuck used to sell everything, now they sell junk and K-Mart cast off's.

Gonna be a lot of brick front retailers go tits up in the next few years.  Like beaneries, just too many.  You can only slice the pie so many ways.

Petersburg Hardware just went tits up.  Having a hardware store today, unless you have really well established customers, is a loosing deal.

My first riding lawnmower came from Sears.  It was a piece of junk.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on March 10, 2017, 08:48:28 AM
Petersburg Hardware just went tits up.  Having a hardware store today, unless you have really well established customers, is a loosing deal.

Not many people fix things anymore.

It is just pitch and replace.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 10, 2017, 03:05:58 PM
Not many people fix things anymore.

It is just pitch and replace.

Thats true.  Landfill it.  Not me, I 'fix' everything.  Too cheap to replace it.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on March 10, 2017, 08:04:59 PM
Radio Shack filed yesterday, Gander Mountain today.   I noticed the Radio Shack in Monroe has store closing signs now.   No Gander Mountains in the area made the initial closing list.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: excelsior on March 11, 2017, 08:23:25 AM
Radio Shack filed yesterday, Gander Mountain today.   I noticed the Radio Shack in Monroe has store closing signs now.   No Gander Mountains in the area made the initial closing list.



I thought Radioshack was gone in 2015:

RadioShack files for bankruptcy

http://www.businessinsider.com/radioshack-files-for-bankrtupcy-2015-2 (http://www.businessinsider.com/radioshack-files-for-bankrtupcy-2015-2)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on March 11, 2017, 10:29:33 AM
That's now "RadioShack Legacy" and is still winding down in bankruptcy court.    General Wireless Operations bought some of the assets and has been doing business as RadioShack and now THEY are bankrupt. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 11, 2017, 11:04:40 AM
I'm old.  I remember Olsen Electronics, the predecessor to Radio Shack
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 12, 2017, 10:39:58 PM
Gander Mountain filed on Friday, Chapter 11.  Closing 120 stores.  Tits up.  Waiting for the big sales...

Too many players, too little audience.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on March 13, 2017, 02:24:40 PM
List I saw is only 32, none around here.   For now at least.   Could be interesting with the Cabelas/Bass Pro merger already on shaky ground with the feds.    Now likely to be shot down (no pun intended) and I could see one of them buying the remains of Gander Mountain.   They'd likely close a lot more stores and convert the rest to their brand.

Staples is closing 70 unnamed stores.

Signet (parent of a bunch of the jewelry chains) is closing 165 stores "primarily in underperforming malls".   They own Kay and Osterman in Mall of Monroe.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 13, 2017, 04:01:58 PM
List I saw is only 32, none around here.   For now at least.   Could be interesting with the Cabelas/Bass Pro merger already on shaky ground with the feds.    Now likely to be shot down (no pun intended) and I could see one of them buying the remains of Gander Mountain.   They'd likely close a lot more stores and convert the rest to their brand.

Staples is closing 70 unnamed stores.

Signet (parent of a bunch of the jewelry chains) is closing 165 stores "primarily in underperforming malls".   They own Kay and Osterman in Mall of Monroe.

I picked up the 120 number from a forum I'm on, not a 'credible' source...  Didn't know about the Pro-Bela deal, will have to ask when I pay my bill next week.  Can see the SEC having an issue with it however.  Personally, I would prefer for Cabelas to keep the CC arm and Foremost Bank, just the way it is and not sell the business to Capital One.  Don't want to deal with a towelhead call center if I can avoid it.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on March 14, 2017, 12:09:30 PM
I picked up the 120 number from a forum I'm on, not a 'credible' source...  Didn't know about the Pro-Bela deal, will have to ask when I pay my bill next week.  Can see the SEC having an issue with it however.  Personally, I would prefer for Cabelas to keep the CC arm and Foremost Bank, just the way it is and not sell the business to Capital One.  Don't want to deal with a towelhead call center if I can avoid it.

Hey Flip,

My sources tell me the Cabela's CC sale is not going to happen.  Cabela's tried to sell the CC business to generate capital to buy back shares.  Now it looks like that's not going to happen.

Anyone holding Cabela's stock better consider dumping it.  The sale to BPS is on very shaky ground as well.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 14, 2017, 02:21:05 PM
Hey Flip,

My sources tell me the Cabela's CC sale is not going to happen.  Cabela's tried to sell the CC business to generate capital to buy back shares.  Now it looks like that's not going to happen.

Anyone holding Cabela's stock better consider dumping it.  The sale to BPS is on very shaky ground as well.

I can buy that.  The Foremost Bank arm of Cabelas is extremely profitable and I was cringing about Capital One assuming it.  I don't like dealing with Pacific Rim call centers and agents with heavy accents..Why I dropped my Capital One card in the first place.

I also heard the SEC is not too comfortable with the Cabelas / Bass Pro merger and was probably going to disallow it.

With Gander going down the crapper and Dicks in bad shape, it might be in Cabelas best interest to stand pat anyway.

Gun sales have pretty well tanked post Obama anyway.  Think that is one big thing that scuttled Gander.  Gander put a lot of eggs in the gun basket and the basket developed a hole in the bottom.

The best gun salesman, Barak, is no more and rep-laced with a pro 2A president.  That took care of the record profits gun manufacturers were making and the related accessory market (scopes, ammo and hardware also took a dump.

I have no Cabelas stock (that I'm aware of) and don't really want any.  The outdoors market is unstable right now.

Bad for you, good for me if, I wanted anything, which, I don't.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on March 15, 2017, 01:11:11 PM
Bon Ton, parent of Carsons announced today they are closing 6-8 stores.   Only one in Ohio identified so far.   Their stock price is bouncing off $1 this morning, any lower and they are in danger of delisting which often triggers issues with creditors. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on March 20, 2017, 11:13:11 AM
With the drop in many malls of traffic - it isn't hard to see that smaller stores will suffer and big name places as well...   Mall rent is a lot of your overhead!   
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on March 20, 2017, 11:24:45 AM
Went to FP mall in Toledo at 5 sunday night the place was packed. Restaurant's too
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 20, 2017, 01:33:19 PM
Went to FP mall in Toledo at 5 sunday night the place was packed. Restaurant's too

Isn't that where they have a gang issue?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on March 20, 2017, 04:19:31 PM
They did have.  The mall is off limits to any one under 18 after 4PM unless with a responsible adult. 
And besides you are allowed to carry
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 20, 2017, 06:54:26 PM
Do they have armed security people on premises or what?  I remember reading about how bad it was a while back...
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on March 20, 2017, 07:16:58 PM
The mall has security in and out. Some times I see Toledo Police inside. When the Tol police are by the door I pat my side when my gun is.  They usually smile or nod..
Probably off duty but I'd bet they are armed.
Ever since the rats out by 4 it's ok.  And they were usually at the end where movie theater and food court is. And Dicks.
I don't go often so maybe it's worse some times..
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 20, 2017, 09:25:09 PM
Guess I cannot go there wearing my 460.  It's hard to conceal that big bruiser.  A 23" long handgun don't conceal well.... ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on March 23, 2017, 07:24:45 AM
I can buy that.  The Foremost Bank arm of Cabelas is extremely profitable and I was cringing about Capital One assuming it.  I don't like dealing with Pacific Rim call centers and agents with heavy accents..Why I dropped my Capital One card in the first place.

I also heard the SEC is not too comfortable with the Cabelas / Bass Pro merger and was probably going to disallow it.

With Gander going down the crapper and Dicks in bad shape, it might be in Cabelas best interest to stand pat anyway.

Gun sales have pretty well tanked post Obama anyway.  Think that is one big thing that scuttled Gander.  Gander put a lot of eggs in the gun basket and the basket developed a hole in the bottom.

The best gun salesman, Barak, is no more and rep-laced with a pro 2A president.  That took care of the record profits gun manufacturers were making and the related accessory market (scopes, ammo and hardware also took a dump.

I have no Cabelas stock (that I'm aware of) and don't really want any.  The outdoors market is unstable right now.

Bad for you, good for me if, I wanted anything, which, I don't.

Everything you said is 100% true, from what I know.  The small gun shops are dying right now.  Many have already gone belly up.  This past winter was the slowest "busy season" I can remember.  I have the shooting range and the RV storage to help with cash flow, but little gun shops have seen their cash flow come to a screeching halt.  All gun shops are hurting bad right now.  I've had my place for sale since before the election - I saw the writing on the wall back then.  Plus, I just don't have the time to put into it any more.  It's priced cheap, for someone looking to get into it.

If the big boys are having trouble, you know the little guys are hurting too.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 23, 2017, 11:53:58 AM
Everything you said is 100% true, from what I know.  The small gun shops are dying right now.  Many have already gone belly up.  This past winter was the slowest "busy season" I can remember.  I have the shooting range and the RV storage to help with cash flow, but little gun shops have seen their cash flow come to a screeching halt.  All gun shops are hurting bad right now.  I've had my place for sale since before the election - I saw the writing on the wall back then.  Plus, I just don't have the time to put into it any more.  It's priced cheap, for someone looking to get into it.

If the big boys are having trouble, you know the little guys are hurting too.

Maybe I need to purchase some 'supplies' from you?  Looking at another stick.  I need a 12 gauge bolt gun.  Didn't know you had RV storage...  Maybe I should be storing my RV in your lot as well....

Don't need a range, have my own to expend lead on.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on March 23, 2017, 02:18:29 PM
Toledo has long allowed it's officers to work in uniform - off duty as security...   a smart idea for citizenry and security of establishments! 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 24, 2017, 08:04:48 PM
I don't get it, firearm sales are way down (and will probably stay there) but there are lots of new faces in the game and new models too.  Who is gonna buy all those weapons?

The 'gun a day keeps Obama away' is gone.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on March 24, 2017, 10:02:57 PM
I don't get it, firearm sales are way down (and will probably stay there) but there are lots of new faces in the game and new models too.  Who is gonna buy all those weapons?

The 'gun a day keeps Obama away' is gone.

Democrats make the best gun salesman.

No need to rush out today when you know you can buy it tomorrow.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on March 24, 2017, 10:18:34 PM
I'm still happy I bought my S&W MP15. I could get it cheaper today but that's ok. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on March 28, 2017, 06:31:02 PM
I don't get it, firearm sales are way down (and will probably stay there) but there are lots of new faces in the game and new models too.  Who is gonna buy all those weapons?

The 'gun a day keeps Obama away' is gone.

I can not believe how slow business is.  The firearms market just died.  You're right, it will probably stay slow.  I feel sorry for the tiny shops that just sell guns.  Their business has stopped.

Good thing I own my building.  Once I sell it, I'll be fine.   Places that rent don't have that option.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on March 28, 2017, 07:30:20 PM
I can not believe how slow business is.  The firearms market just died.  You're right, it will probably stay slow.  I feel sorry for the tiny shops that just sell guns.  Their business has stopped.

Good thing I own my building.  Once I sell it, I'll be fine.   Places that rent don't have that option.

Everything is cyclical. 

Be patient.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on March 28, 2017, 10:54:00 PM
Gotta check the laws in Pennsylvania - my son just moved there, and I'm thinking he'll want a safety device in his apartment...     
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Tiny on April 02, 2017, 12:02:21 AM
Toledo has long allowed it's officers to work in uniform - off duty as security...   a smart idea for citizenry and security of establishments! 

What about liability? If a cop wrongfully shoots someone the Toledo Police will be sued if he's wearing their uniform.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on April 02, 2017, 08:05:34 AM
What about liability? If a cop wrongfully shoots someone the Toledo Police will be sued if he's wearing their uniform.

Don't worry about it Tiny.

The taxpayers have unlimited funds, and the Union will defend the cop no matter how stupid he was and even though he wasn't working.

All will be good.

The only one that will get screwed is the taxpayers, and who really cares about them?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Tiny on April 02, 2017, 11:13:45 PM
Don't worry about it Tiny.

The taxpayers have unlimited funds, and the Union will defend the cop no matter how stupid he was and even though he wasn't working.

All will be good.

The only one that will get screwed is the taxpayers, and who really cares about them?

Whew, that's a load off my mind.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on April 03, 2017, 11:55:09 PM
What about liability? If a cop wrongfully shoots someone the Toledo Police will be sued if he's wearing their uniform.
And you don't think someone would sue a cop if he was not wearing the uniform but still had the training?   

I believe long ago the City preferred the additional presence over worrying about liability.

If you do something that you get shot for at a mall -I'll side with the trained officer over a rent-a-cop from another agency.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on April 04, 2017, 07:22:33 PM
And you don't think someone would sue a cop if he was not wearing the uniform but still had the training?   

I believe long ago the City preferred the additional presence over worrying about liability.

If you do something that you get shot for at a mall -I'll side with the trained officer over a rent-a-cop from another agency.

Sure they could sue the cop - but I doubt they would get very far suing the city.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Tiny on April 04, 2017, 09:34:07 PM
And you don't think someone would sue a cop if he was not wearing the uniform but still had the training?   

I believe long ago the City preferred the additional presence over worrying about liability.

If you do something that you get shot for at a mall -I'll side with the trained officer over a rent-a-cop from another agency.

They can use the off duty cop but wearing the uniform makes the city also liable for his actions.

Our attorney told us years ago that if we use the company truck for personal use and cause an accident, the company can also be held liable. With the business name painted on the doors, it would be easily known.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on April 05, 2017, 10:19:42 PM
Are cops ever really off duty?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Tiny on April 11, 2017, 11:22:33 PM
Are cops ever really off duty?

That's genius.

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on June 06, 2017, 05:19:05 PM
I see the car max  Used Car  lot  must have closed - the lot is empty and for sale signs... 

Don't get that way often.   

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 07, 2017, 09:17:15 AM
I see the car max  Used Car  lot  must have closed - the lot is empty and for sale signs... 

Don't get that way often.   

That short lived operation will most likely go down as a huge blunder unless they can make a lot of money on the property when they re-sell it.

Looks like someone still has a lot of vehicles stored in the fenced in lot which is directly behind the Speedway station.  Maybe it's overflow inventory from their other car lots ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on June 07, 2017, 12:24:19 PM
That short lived operation will most likely go down as a huge blunder unless they can make a lot of money on the property when they re-sell it.

Looks like someone still has a lot of vehicles stored in the fenced in lot which is directly behind the Speedway station.  Maybe it's overflow inventory from their other car lots ??? ??? ???
I'm guessing the Research team didn't go to business school... 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on June 11, 2017, 10:47:29 AM
No unemployment in Michigan..Was reading in another local paper today that there apparently is no unemployment in Michigan.
Some businesses are closing or scaling back in Mackinac because there is a shortage of about 3000 workers.
The government has cut back on the number of worker visas...
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 11, 2017, 11:01:48 AM
No unemployment in Michigan..Was reading in another local paper today that there apparently is no unemployment in Michigan.
Some businesses are closing or scaling back in Mackinac because there is a shortage of about 3000 workers.
The government has cut back on the number of worker visas...

I was reading an article in the Midland paper a couple of weeks ago and the figure for that area is about 11,000 workers they're short.  I didn't see any reference in that article to worker visas but their main complaint is that they can't find 'trained' or skilled workers!!! 

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on June 11, 2017, 11:03:56 AM
There are a lot of trained skilled workers in Michigan's big cities.  Trained in how to milk the system..
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 11, 2017, 05:02:51 PM
There are a lot of trained skilled workers in Michigan's big cities.  Trained in how to milk the system..

Ain't that the truth ;D ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on July 07, 2017, 06:16:30 PM
Sad to hear the Monroe K-Mart is on the list to close...     

The original shop at home company is falling prey because they lost their direction and someone else took the idea and made it work. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 07, 2017, 08:00:15 PM
Sad to hear the Monroe K-Mart is on the list to close...     

The original shop at home company is falling prey because they lost their direction and someone else took the idea and made it work.

The Sears / Kmart thing was they failed to adapt to the market changes.  The handwriting was on the wall years ago but they just seemed to think they would continue to survive 'somehow'...

hasn't happened so far and unless they get some sharp 'turn around' people on staff they're destined for the history books ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on July 08, 2017, 05:53:37 AM
Sad to hear the Monroe K-Mart is on the list to close...     

The original shop at home company is falling prey because they lost their direction and someone else took the idea and made it work.

I'm surprised it lasted this long.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on July 08, 2017, 06:07:01 AM
There is one on Alexis rd in Toledo that seems to be busy whenever I go by.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 08, 2017, 08:55:12 AM
There is one on Alexis rd in Toledo that seems to be busy whenever I go by.

That one is on the close list too. 

I haven't been in the one in Monroe to shop for several years although I ring bells for the Salvation Army there this past Christmas.  There were still quite a few people going in and shopping.  I was surprised to see a couple of guys roll a full sized refrigerator out and load it in the back of their truck.  Didn't realize they had large appliances. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on July 08, 2017, 02:41:02 PM
I guess I'll have to find a new source for the string on my walk behind trimmer....   they had the best pre-cut I've been able to find.     
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 08, 2017, 09:13:57 PM
After K-Mart hosed their stockholders and people lost everything.  I vowed never to go in one and I haven't.  Sears and Grabuck deserves to go down.  They lost their way about 10 years ago.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 09, 2017, 09:36:03 AM
I guess I'll have to find a new source for the string on my walk behind trimmer....   they had the best pre-cut I've been able to find.   

They may have some pretty good sale prices...

by October trimmer string probably won't be a hot item anymore so you may be able to load up with a supply to last a few years.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on July 09, 2017, 11:14:56 AM
I say good riddance.   Hopefully it will get demoed though.   Last time I was in there and I bet that was 20 years ago, the place was a dump.   I'd imagine once they vacate it will deteriorate fast.

I wouldn't stock up on string.   It actually is designed to break down over time so that all the bits you break off in use degrade.   Even in the package it gets more brittle over time.   I just recently learned this after not understanding why my string sometimes is fine and sometimes seems like it breaks every few minutes.   Thinking back, its been old string.   Storing it in a cool, dry place may help--not sure.   
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Newport-Bill on July 09, 2017, 11:24:22 AM
When the Dearborn one closed years ago I waited a few weeks and then went over to get things.  Found it was pretty well picked over pretty early.  Was able to get a couple garden shovels and that was about it.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on July 09, 2017, 12:30:12 PM
K-mart and Sears both closing in Toledo now..
The Alexis road store always seemed pretty busy.
The Sears at Westgate not so much and it's in a great area.  Westgate booming but Costco across the street.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 14, 2017, 10:27:26 AM
We hadn't seen any signs of life around Fino's the last couple of times we were leaving Kroger on S. Monroe St.  Last night we drove over through the parking lot and there wasn't a single thing there other than a lot of trash blowing around.  No 'closed' sign in the window but the electric 'OPEN' sign wasn't on either.  Anyone heard anything?

Gone on vacation maybe?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Newport-Bill on July 14, 2017, 10:40:51 AM
Went to Gander Mountain yesterday to see what items they had left.  Still had quite a bit of stuff in many of the departments.  The signs say 25-60% off but I found you can't rely on the signs in the departments to be accurate.  I went to see if I could get a deal on broadheads and the sign said 30% on all archery but I had the guy scan them and they came up 40% off.  So I got a couple of packs of Muzzys regular $30 for $18.

They said they are going to reopen as Gander Outdoors in Belleville but did provide a date.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on July 14, 2017, 11:17:31 AM
That makes a lot of sense for them.   New owner of the Gander Mountain name and some assets is the owner of Camping World.  My understanding is he did not buy any of the inventory as he thinks the inventory mix is all wrong .   Last I saw he was renegotiating every lease and if the landlord doesn't want to play, the store closes.    I'd assume they will co-locate with Camping World in Belleville which probably has plenty of space with some juggling since they sell RV's there.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on July 14, 2017, 11:32:33 AM
Apparently a few more stores have closed in the Mall.   Finish Line is no longer listed as is the antique place. Vanity, Rue 21, and Payless all closed in bankruptcy.   If you count Carson's as one store, don't count Applebees which isn't actually in the mall, and don't count vending machines there are only 25 tenants left.   News articles about Carson's seem to think bankruptcy is in their near future and suddenly there stock is trading like mad and the price has tripled (from $0.31) in the last two days. 

Wonder if the owners still want $15M for the property?

I don't think this is a Monroe problem.   In my travels I've been in some other similarly-sized towns and even some bigger than Monroe, the malls are dead.   People will drive an hour to a "destination" mall but not 10 minutes to a small mall.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 11, 2017, 09:43:11 AM
Nationally IHOP and Applebee's will be closing 160 locations.

http://www.mlive.com/news/us-world/index.ssf/2017/08/applebees_ihop_to_close_160_re.html#incart_m-rpt-2 (http://www.mlive.com/news/us-world/index.ssf/2017/08/applebees_ihop_to_close_160_re.html#incart_m-rpt-2)


We haven't been to Applebee's in a few years...   no bad experiences but nothing really great about them either.

IHOP we go to maybe once a month...  so far they're still 'new' in town so a bit of a novelty.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on August 11, 2017, 09:52:30 AM
Don't think I've ever been to IHOP..Applebee's a couple of times down south when i went to races.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Newport-Bill on August 11, 2017, 10:06:55 AM
Never have been a fan of Applebee's nor Ruby Tuesdays.  Been to iHop a few times but mainly because of the 50% off coupons in the mail.  My wife likes the lingonberry crepes there. 

We have been trying to avoid the "chain places" and try to support the "Mom & Pop" places.  So El Maguey, R Diner, Public House, Dixie Café in S. Rockwood, Northside, Harbor Inn & Ale, etc have been our recent Saturday night dinner stops.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on August 11, 2017, 10:26:38 AM
....
Wonder if the owners still want $15M for the property?

I don't think this is a Monroe problem.   In my travels I've been in some other similarly-sized towns and even some bigger than Monroe, the malls are dead.   People will drive an hour to a "destination" mall but not 10 minutes to a small mall.

The mall in Ann Arbor thrives...  many specialty shops and a few anchors.   

Not sure about the one in Toledo - I rarely go that way as I do prefer to shop in Michigan if I can to support the local economy and state...    A beer run (Yuengling)  and gas is about all I get in Toledo

Never have been a fan of Applebee's nor Ruby Tuesdays.  Been to iHop a few times but mainly because of the 50% off coupons in the mail.  My wife likes the lingonberry crepes there. 

We have been trying to avoid the "chain places" and try to support the "Mom & Pop" places.  So El Maguey, R Diner, Public House, Dixie Café in S. Rockwood, Northside, Harbor Inn & Ale, etc have been our recent Saturday night dinner stops.
Don't forget Amaya's    ;)   ...   probably going to Harbor Inn tonight! 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on August 11, 2017, 10:40:47 AM
The Franklin Park Mall always seems to be pretty busy.  Actually the only place to shop in Toledo. 
Kids under 18 not allowed in FPM after 4 or 5 PM unless with an adult.
The Perrysburg shopping off of Rt25 a big hit too.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on September 08, 2017, 07:44:34 AM
Looks like the video game store on Telegraph near Taco Bell is shutting down based on the numerous signs in front of the strip mall they are in.

Looks like the mall is down to 26 tenants, not including vending machines, and another (Vitamin World) filed for bankruptcy this week.   I really have to believe they will shut down the interior of the mall at some point soon.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on September 20, 2017, 11:57:05 PM
Maybe Google or Amazon can use it for a storage facility or office space for their servers
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on September 22, 2017, 08:37:22 AM
You saw that someone wants to convert the old LZB facility into a storage place but the city denied the zoning change.   I'm not sure what the city thinks would be built there instead but I just can't see it happening with all the greenfield sites with lower taxes and no City of Monroe to deal with less than a mile north.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on September 22, 2017, 12:46:27 PM
That company will be back with a better rezoning proposal. The one they initially made was not the correct zoning for what they said they wanted to do there.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 22, 2017, 03:00:57 PM
Zoning is a wonderful thing until you get on the receiving end.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 18, 2017, 09:59:18 AM
No sign's of any kind of life around Fino's restaurant for a couple of weeks now.  There's a sign in their front window that says they're closed due to their grill being broken.  I just can't imagine any grill that couldn't have been repaired in that time frame.  If it's beyond repair they may have to bite the bullet and buy a new one.  Can't imagine a restaurant without a grill :( :( :(
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on October 18, 2017, 03:04:08 PM
Hasn't Finos been closed for months?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on October 18, 2017, 04:33:45 PM
Not a closing but R Diner did change hands.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Newport-Bill on October 18, 2017, 09:39:50 PM
I must have been asleep but when did Big Blues BBQ close?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on October 18, 2017, 11:14:11 PM
Bill,
At least 6 months ago
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 19, 2017, 09:15:20 AM
Not a closing but R Diner did change hands.

I heard that a couple of days ago...   do you know who the new owner is?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 19, 2017, 09:28:30 AM
Hasn't Finos been closed for months?

Sort of 'closed' but not completely.  They seemed to open in short stretches and then return to the 'temporarily' closed status again.  sometimes they have a note on the front door and other times they just weren't open during their posted hours.  Then they shortened their hours to breakfast and lunch (closed at 2) which pretty much eliminated us from being in there.  Then for the last several weeks there was the note on the door about the grill being broken.   

Even the last stretch they were open regularly when we went in there a few times they were definitely short on customers.  A couple of times at 8 pm we would be the only customers in there...  and maybe 2 would stop in to pick up a takeout order. 

The exterior of the building was in need of some 'detailing'...   lots of trash in the parking lot, weeds (some pretty tall) growing in the cracks of the parking lot and the sidewalk.  it was just not a very 'welcoming' exterior lately.   

I would say that the market for that level of 'dining' has gotten saturated in the Monroe area lately and this operation was the weakest link in the chain and it has finally snapped. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Tea Party Patriot on October 19, 2017, 09:30:53 AM
I heard that a couple of days ago...   do you know who the new owner is?
They had a letter announcing the new owners on there facebook page. For somebody thats all over everybody elses business I'm surprised you weren't on it.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on October 19, 2017, 09:41:36 AM
Wow!   8*
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 19, 2017, 09:48:14 AM
They had a letter announcing the new owners on there facebook page. For somebody thats all over everybody elses business I'm surprised you weren't on it.

A...   I don't do facebook

B...   if they announced it on facebook apparently they didn't think they wanted to keep it a secret.

I'm always a bit suspect of any business when they decide to hide behind the corporate shield.  I absolutely understand the concept of keeping info private while they may have been in the 'negotiations' stage but once it's been sold 'most' business people no longer want to keep things a secret.

But thank you for your uninformed concerns anyway...

as to your opinion about me...

I served 'my time' in the United States Army so that posters like you could remain to free to post whatever you want...

so keep posting!!!

I would enjoy hearing about your time in the military or perhaps what you've done as 'alternative' service...

you know...  what have 'you' done for the United States of America to earn your right to be a citizen ??? ??? ???

I will be anxiously awaiting your reply ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: old salt on October 19, 2017, 09:53:05 AM
 

you know...  what have 'you' done for the United States of America to earn your right to be a citizen ??? ??? ???


Wow!  :o
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 19, 2017, 09:55:27 AM
Wow!   8*


Just the reaction from another 'keyboard tough guy' :) :) :)


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Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 19, 2017, 09:56:46 AM

Wow!  :o

And you're on the list of people that are entitled to their opinion too!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Tea Party Patriot on October 19, 2017, 10:00:08 AM
In the words of my hero Al Bundy; I SERVED MY COUNTRY. I PLAYED HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL
I served just as many days in the military as our great commander in chief. im sorry Big Red Dog but you don't really belong on this sight anyways.  This sight is supposed to be about showing love for our president Donald J Trump and hate for anyone who is not white.  Get on board with me and my brothers Excelsior and MonroeNative and start smoochin on our man Trump or get the h out.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on October 19, 2017, 06:28:50 PM
Drove by the "Big K" store...  all signage is down - now all we need is some silly planners to come up with stuff to do with the vacant structure.

Actually sat there for a few minutes eating my chili dog - before heading north to school.

Funny to see it's still on the Bus Route as about 3 buses drove in - and then out!   I guess they didn't get the memo it's closed.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Newport-Bill on October 19, 2017, 07:45:36 PM
Bill,
At least 6 months ago

Wow - must have been doing my BBQing in my backyard.  Any reasons given as they always seemed busy when I was in there?  The website says catering only now.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 20, 2017, 09:31:49 AM
Wow - must have been doing my BBQing in my backyard.  Any reasons given as they always seemed busy when I was in there?  The website says catering only now.

My wife was doing some physical therapy for a few weeks in May at the PT place out on Telegraph by Arby's.  While she was in PT I would walk back in the mall and there was originally a sign in the door that said closed for remodeling.  I haven't been back lately to see if there is a new sign or no sign. 

The family that runs the place also bought the Country Club so I'm guessing they are probably focused on the CC and getting it back up and running. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 20, 2017, 09:40:07 AM
Drove by the "Big K" store...  all signage is down - now all we need is some silly planners to come up with stuff to do with the vacant structure.

Actually sat there for a few minutes eating my chili dog - before heading north to school.

Funny to see it's still on the Bus Route as about 3 buses drove in - and then out!   I guess they didn't get the memo it's closed.

Maybe we could all pitch in and buy it and hold weekend cage fighting events...

we seem to have plenty of aggression right here on our own little forum!!!

Or we could freeze the floor and make it a skating rink :o :o :o

I know Kroger has just finished converting one of the old Kmarts in the Downriver area to one of the big Kroger stores.  I'm guessing in this case Kroger already has sufficient stores so it probably won't be Kroger redeveloping the corner. 

Maybe Amazon can put in a 'mini' distribution facility?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: excelsior on October 20, 2017, 10:22:58 AM
Wow!   8*



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Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 20, 2017, 10:46:15 AM
They had a letter announcing the new owners on there facebook page. For somebody thats all over everybody elses business I'm surprised you weren't on it.

I've had a chance to give some thought to your 'uninformed' comment.  Although you may find an isolated comment I've made or question I've asked that some people might consider 'everybody elses business" I doubt you'll find enough to qualify under your own words of "all over"!

Let me explain a little something (that's really none of 'your' business in the first place):

My 'work' for the last 30 years involves facts and first hand knowledge about real property and businesses that are owned and bought and sold by people.  I am licensed by the State of Michigan and have been for the entire 30 years.  At various times I have held every level of licensure the state issues in my field.  At times I have held 3 licenses at the same time plus an additional license in a related field.  Not one time has the state ever had any issue with my performance nor has any member of the public ever filed a complaint against me or any of the people that were licensed under me. 

And now, 30 years into my career some keyboard cowboy decides he doesn't like my 'style' of work. 

It would probably be best if we just decided to put each other on 'ignore'....

that is the way underused method on the forum for when you don't agree with someone's posting style...   which you obviously don't agree with mine!!! 

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Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Newport-Bill on October 20, 2017, 11:01:29 AM
The family that runs the place also bought the Country Club so I'm guessing they are probably focused on the CC and getting it back up and running.

Probably moving the restaurant to the CC location.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 20, 2017, 01:51:01 PM
Probably moving the restaurant to the CC location.

I've had a couple of opportunities to visit the 'new' CC in the last several months but for whatever reason I couldn't make it either time. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Newport-Bill on October 22, 2017, 10:56:28 AM
Not a closing but R Diner did change hands.

Friend stopped by for a visit yesterday and said he and his wife stopped for breakfast at R Diner on the way.  I asked him how it was.  He responded "Strange you ask because we both said something was different.  The eggs came out shiny and the accompaniments were all off as well."

I told him new owners and he said he will give them another try in a few weeks to see if they have the bugs worked out.

I was told by another friend that Joe's French Italian has gone downhill as well with their new ownership.  Not that I ate there often as close as it is to me but I prefer going to the "mom & pop" type places rather than support the chains.  So hoping both pull it out as that limits those options.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on October 22, 2017, 06:22:01 PM
In the words of my hero Al Bundy; I SERVED MY COUNTRY. I PLAYED HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL
I served just as many days in the military as our great commander in chief. im sorry Big Red Dog but you don't really belong on this sight anyways.  This sight is supposed to be about showing love for our president Donald J Trump and hate for anyone who is not white.  Get on board with me and my brothers Excelsior and MonroeNative and start smoochin on our man Trump or get the h out.

Obviously you can't read - from your comment.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on October 22, 2017, 06:24:23 PM
Maybe we could all pitch in and buy it and hold weekend cage fighting events...

we seem to have plenty of aggression right here on our own little forum!!!

Or we could freeze the floor and make it a skating rink :o :o :o

I know Kroger has just finished converting one of the old Kmarts in the Downriver area to one of the big Kroger stores.  I'm guessing in this case Kroger already has sufficient stores so it probably won't be Kroger redeveloping the corner. 

Maybe Amazon can put in a 'mini' distribution facility?

How about a new location for an indoor puddin pit?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 22, 2017, 08:44:19 PM
Friend stopped by for a visit yesterday and said he and his wife stopped for breakfast at R Diner on the way.  I asked him how it was.  He responded "Strange you ask because we both said something was different.  The eggs came out shiny and the accompaniments were all off as well."

I told him new owners and he said he will give them another try in a few weeks to see if they have the bugs worked out.

I was told by another friend that Joe's French Italian has gone downhill as well with their new ownership.  Not that I ate there often as close as it is to me but I prefer going to the "mom & pop" type places rather than support the chains.  So hoping both pull it out as that limits those options.

Although we're typically in there for dinner maybe 3 times over 2 weeks we've actually been in there for breakfast a couple of times in the last week. 

First off, let me say that even if I were in the food service industry I would never serve breakfast.  People just seem to be too fussy if they didn't get a good night's rest.  Taste buds haven's gotten going yet...   just too many issues for me!  We very seldom ate breakfast there prior to the new owners so really don't have much to compare it too.  I think anytime you have a change of management you're going to see some changes overall.    I'm still seeing several of the same wait staff and really don't know much about the kitchen staff before or after.

One addition the new owners have made is the young gal at the cash register and greeter.  She has a super smile and very down to earth attitude.  I liked her within 10 seconds of walking in the door.  Even if you've had a bad night or day her smile will help you feel a little better.  This is an atmosphere that so many business people fail short on or underestimate.  This young gal is the 'first face' people will see walking in and the last they'll see walking out.  Kind of easy to see why she (or the person in her place) becomes the 'face of the business'!  For a business that's dependent on telephone then it's just as important to make sure whoever is answering the phone is transmitting that same 'smile' out through the phone. 

Interesting that one of the most vivacious people in the world to call is the gal that answers the phone out at the state park.  You can tell in 5 seconds that she loves her job because it shows right over the phone. 

Anyway, hoping everyone will give them a chance to get established before getting too critical.  Glad to see someone willing to take a chance in the area. 

Now the 'former' owner can get back to doing what he does best...

PIZZA!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on October 22, 2017, 09:26:07 PM
Funny you should mention that.   Twice over the years I walked into the place to find the old owner arguing with someone at the register.   That sets a good mood.  The food there has always been a mixed bag.   Sometimes good, sometimes not so much.   Guess that can happen anywhere but at some of the other local places I know I could mention it to the owners and get it fixed fast.  After experiencing that atmosphere no way I'd mention it...so I just rarely go there. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on October 23, 2017, 12:39:29 AM
In the restaurant business you are only as good as your cooks/help!   

I noticed a change for R diner as I stopped in - didn't know it was ownership - although the spot that he sat in wasn't occupied  :) 

Public House is still a step up - for the short drive through town.   

On the changes at Joes French Italian - they chased away a long time customer by doing away with some of their traditional dishes over  "healthy" stuff they claimed...     This person had been going their with a small group for nearly 30 years and now he's gone elsewhere!      Not what you want to do unless you've completely changed the business model and type of food - and if so why not change the name on the front of the building to match! 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 23, 2017, 02:06:06 PM
In the restaurant business you are only as good as your cooks/help!    

I noticed a change for R diner as I stopped in - didn't know it was ownership - although the spot that he sat in wasn't occupied  :) 

Public House is still a step up - for the short drive through town.   

On the changes at Joes French Italian - they chased away a long time customer by doing away with some of their traditional dishes over  "healthy" stuff they claimed...     This person had been going their with a small group for nearly 30 years and now he's gone elsewhere!      Not what you want to do unless you've completely changed the business model and type of food - and if so why not change the name on the front of the building to match!

Many businesses are like that however in the food service industry the 'bad help' can sink you in very short order.  You can spend years building up your business just to have one or two slackers kill your efforts in just a few days!

I haven't been to Joe's for years...   no real reason why other than we have favorites closer to home or in Toledo.

Yes, Public House is a step up from R Diner but so are their prices.  I enjoy going to both and don't mind paying more at Public House but I'm getting something that is typically more unique too.

We had to run up to Taylor this morning so my wife could have a medical procedure and we still managed to get back to R Diner before 11 am.  I had an omelette and it was very, very good.  Fair price, good service.

The ONE complaint I have is we had two flies buzzing around us while we were eating...  very distracting.  We were sitting where my wife could see into the kitchen door and at one point she commented:  "no wonder there are flies...   the back door to the kitchen is standing wide open"!!!

I did speak with 'the greeter gal' on the way out and she said that Mondays and Fridays are bad because those are major delivery days so the door ends up open longer.  I'm not sure what the answer is to that but it is very distracting to have to keep the flies off your food...   I kind of expect that at an outdoor picnic but not inside a restaurant :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 02, 2017, 09:13:56 PM
I had a chance to take a walk around Fino's while my wife was busy this afternoon.

One day a week or so ago we saw a truck and trailer backed up to the side door and the trailer was loaded with grills and other restaurant equipment.  Thought maybe they were getting their long anticipated grill replacement.  There were 3 or 4 men kind of just standing around when we saw them and I have to admit I don't know if the equipment was going in or going out or just sitting on the trailer.

Anyway, walked around today and they have all the shades drawn and then black plastic up over the front windows that didn't have window coverings.

And, the sign about the griddle that was on the front door has been ripped down...   tape and part of the paper is still there but the sign is gone.  No reference about opening again in the future. 

Looks like they're gone for sure this time!

Is this where we all say "Bye Felicia" ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on November 22, 2017, 10:45:59 AM
Vitamin World at the mall is next.   The company is liquidating, selling some stores and closing the rest including the one here.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on November 22, 2017, 12:25:01 PM
It's hard to imagine how those vitamin/supplement stores stay open when that is without doubt an easier commodity to purchase on the internet. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on November 22, 2017, 01:00:33 PM
Very true.   I've purchased a few things and compared GNC to others and GNC was easily 50-100% more.    I read they basically redid their whole pricing structure to be more competitive but I haven't bothered to check.    I'd assume GNC and Vitamin World have similar pricing but I didn't bother going to the mall to check.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 22, 2017, 08:51:02 PM
Lonestar (in Dundee) went tits up and closed their doors, think it was nationally.  Steaks sucked but had good burgers.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on November 22, 2017, 09:19:05 PM
I liked their bloomin onion but thought their steaks sucked also. The place looked abandoned a lot the last couple of years. Good location but terrible food.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 23, 2017, 06:03:32 AM
I liked their bloomin onion but thought their steaks sucked also. The place looked abandoned a lot the last couple of years. Good location but terrible food.

CL and I tried the onion thing one time.  We both got heartburn....lol

They had a fantastic burger however, we always got that when we went.

I heard that they didn't even have the courtesy of notifying their employees of the closure.  They found out when the went to work and found the doors locked and a sign on the glass...

Typical beanery, typical attitude that is so commonplace today.

I'm sure some other venue will come in and reopen under another name in as much as it's a hot spot, though that hot spot is pretty populated with like venue's.

You can only have so many beaneries in one area and then it becomes survival of the fittest or, survival of the least expensive.

Cabelas isn't all that busy anymore either.  I can drop in on a Tuesday and the lot is empty.  More employees in the store than patrons.  I think the 'destination location' is wearing thin.

Lots of 'players' now in the 'outdoors retail' market.  The pie slice is getting smaller every day.

Splash Universe changed hands too.  They didn't close but were sold to another entity.  The motorcycle shop on the corner of Cabelas Blvd., also went tits up, replaced by a Tim Horton's with the Krispy Kreme philosophy, donuts made in elsewhere and shipped in, in the middle of the night, slightly stale but still edible.

Finally, I heard that 'Thirsty's' in Dundee went south and the Great Lakes Pub or whatever it's called is for sale...

People are getting a bit more particular about where they go and what they pay for eats and drinks.

My uncle owned a beanery when I was a kid and I distinctly remember him telling me that 'The cheapest thing in any restuarant is the food.

Guess thats why CL and I like Bob Evans...  Home of portion control....lol
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on November 23, 2017, 10:13:56 AM
Went to the Mexican place in DT Dumbdee a couple of weeks ago.  It was ok but Mexican not my fav anyway.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 23, 2017, 09:35:00 PM
Went to the Mexican place in DT Dumbdee a couple of weeks ago.  It was ok but Mexican not my fav anyway.

The one down by you....  La Fiesta is 10 times better.

We came by the Lonestar on the way home from Plymouth a while ago.  Lights are out, corner is dark.  Seems strange with all the other places lit up.

I bet there are some pizzed off employees.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on November 23, 2017, 11:39:51 PM
The one by me.  You mean the one on Telegraph?  Never been there.

The internet says Lonestar going under and is closing resturaunts regularly.

However Texas Roadhouse seems to be going the other way. They built one on Secor near Central in Toledo where all the new commercial construction is going on.  New Hotels, Whole Foods (built but not open), Tony Packos, Chick Filet and a few more
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Newport-Bill on November 24, 2017, 09:52:06 AM
The one down by you....  La Fiesta is 10 times better.


Aren't they the same owners - the one in LaSalle and Dundee?  Both La Fiesta?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on November 24, 2017, 10:19:00 AM
I'm guessing they are the same owners.  And there is one in Maumee Ohio by the same name.
Like I mentioned I'm not a big fan of Mexican food and i don't know if a lot of other people are either.
Most comments i hear about the quality of Mexican restaurants is, how good their margaritas are.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 24, 2017, 11:05:49 AM
Aren't they the same owners - the one in LaSalle and Dundee?  Both La Fiesta?

They are one in the same...  Different cooks and management however.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 24, 2017, 11:07:16 AM
I'm guessing they are the same owners.  And there is one in Maumee Ohio by the same name.
Like I mentioned I'm not a big fan of Mexican food and i don't know if a lot of other people are either.
Most comments i hear about the quality of Mexican restaurants is, how good their margaritas are.

In as much as we don't consume alcohol we have no idea about the drinks.

LaFiesta on Telegraph has killer Taco's and the prices are real good.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on November 24, 2017, 11:54:34 AM
Never tried the one in Dundee, but have the one on Telegraph.

Food........a subjective average.

Salsa and fresh baked chips........very good.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 24, 2017, 04:07:55 PM
Never tried the one in Dundee, but have the one on Telegraph.

Food........a subjective average.

Salsa and fresh baked chips........very good.

I think it depends on what you order up..
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on November 24, 2017, 05:47:01 PM
That's why I called it subjective......I've tried the combos that were pretty indicative of the genre, just wasn't overly impressed for a 10 to 15 dollar meal.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on November 24, 2017, 06:47:27 PM
I don't like the baby pop they call beans or the gravy..
Enchiladas with melted cheese are good and of course tacos
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 24, 2017, 08:59:26 PM
Don't like the baby shitte either.  CL does soft taco's at home ocassionally and the baby poop she gets is on par with the LaFiesta poop, IOW, not good.

The Burrito's and Taco's are good, I just stay away from the baby poop.

My niece made roasted Brussels Sprouts with cranberries for Thanksgiving dinner and they were fantastic.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 24, 2017, 09:01:29 PM
That's why I called it subjective......I've tried the combos that were pretty indicative of the genre, just wasn't overly impressed for a 10 to 15 dollar meal.

It ain't no Villa but the cost isn't either.  I get a kick out of the wall seating...
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Newport-Bill on November 25, 2017, 08:48:48 AM
Recently been going to El Maguey II next to Jake's Liquor on Dixie.  Their #13 Burrito Grande with Cubed Beef combo is what I always get.  You need to ask for the hotter salsa though.

Wife won't go to Vaquero's after the roach incident. I told her now is the safest time to go!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 25, 2017, 08:54:49 AM
Roach's provide some sustenance too....  Depends on how they are cooked however.... ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on November 25, 2017, 09:27:42 AM
Lonestar (in Dundee) went tits up and closed their doors, think it was nationally.  Steaks sucked but had good burgers.
There was a sign on the door informing employees of the closing -  nice way to do business...

There is a sign next to it telling them the next owner will take their applications - and pointed them to the restaurant bar just down the same strip.   
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Newport-Bill on November 25, 2017, 09:44:50 AM
Roach's provide some sustenance too....  Depends on how they are cooked however.... ;D

LOL
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 15, 2017, 09:07:43 PM
We went out to the mall tonight.  My wife had a few things to look for and it gave me a chance to walk without being out in the snow.

First time we'd been there since last winter and there sure are not many stores left.  They've even closed the service counter!!!

I'm guessing there will be the typical annual exodus again after Christmas which will really leave them bare to the wall.

At least 3 security guards walking around inside and I saw the outside patrol car going too. 

Lots of people at the theater or there really wouldn't have been many people there at all.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 15, 2017, 10:20:08 PM
LOL

My roach comment reminded me of an incident I had in high school (that I still remember all these years).  Was having lunch in the cafeteria and it was Friday so I got the fish sandwich with a side of Mac and Cheese.  Was eating my sandwich, picked up a fork full of mac and cheese and underneath the mac and cheese was a nicely cooked roach.  Looked like it was sleeping there..

Didn't finish my lunch and after that I brown bagged it..... ;D

I could have ate it and not even known it.....
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 15, 2017, 10:21:16 PM
Is anything going on with the Manufacturers Outlet over by 75?  I thought someone bought it but I haven't heard squat about it???
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on December 15, 2017, 10:24:40 PM
And you wouldn't have been worse for it..
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 15, 2017, 10:34:20 PM
IOW, nothing happening?  I always thought that place was a bust, even when it was new.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 16, 2017, 08:49:49 AM
Is anything going on with the Manufacturers Outlet over by 75?  I thought someone bought it but I haven't heard squat about it???


Here's a couple of fairly recent articles from the MonroeNews:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20170607/studies-reveal-possibilities-for-monroe (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20170607/studies-reveal-possibilities-for-monroe)

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20171029/plans-to-develop-former-horizon-outlet-center-are-dormant (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20171029/plans-to-develop-former-horizon-outlet-center-are-dormant)


There's been another one very recently where development (or lack thereof) around the county was the theme.  I remember the Bedford supervisor talking about the yard waste center we discussed.  Maybe someone else will have a link.

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 16, 2017, 09:03:46 AM
This is probably the key 'take away' from the June article.  Sounds like we're still paying for some mistakes made back in the 80s...

Quote
Cook talked about how retail space in Monroe has changed from the 1960s, which was focused on shopping downtown, to the 1980s where retail spaces like strip malls grew exponentially.

“The community is unique because in the 1980s there was a huge amount of retail space and the community added almost 1 million-square-foot of retail with the Mall of Monroe and Horizon Outlets,” he said.

Monroe had lots of retail space but still added a million square feet in a relatively short time!!! 

And obviously now we don't need the million or even all of what we had before.

I remember part of that whole development push was for 'new' buildings instead of the very old ones around Monroe.

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 16, 2017, 09:29:31 AM
One thing I noticed as soon as we pulled into the mall parking lot last night is that there was no Salvation Army Red Kettle and bell ringer at the the 'food court' entrance!

Anyone know or have any ideas on what is going on with that...

I figure either mall management kicked them out or the SA has re-evaluated their efforts around town and decided to pull the ringers from the mall so they could double down at Walmart ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 16, 2017, 10:04:07 AM
Lack of patronage probably.  Why freeze your butt off when there are more 'lucrative' spots close by...
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 17, 2017, 09:36:26 AM
Lack of patronage probably. Why freeze your butt off when there are more 'lucrative' spots close by...

The biggest crowd we saw was around the theater.  I think it was the first showing of  “Star Wars: The Last Jedi,”

R2-D2 was even running around the mall too!

Other than that just not a lot of potential people to donate.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on December 17, 2017, 06:23:45 PM
This place not likely going out of business.
Clark shoes.
I found a pair I really liked for a gift at Clark store in Toledo mall Friday morning. Didn't have the size.  But said they would get me the shoes by Christmas.  I later was looking over Clarks web site and they were out of stock on almost all sizes. 
Saturday morning the UPS guy shows up at my door wth the shoes.
The company was out so they found a store in Columbus that had them and were delivered within 24 hours..
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 18, 2017, 08:41:14 AM
This place not likely going out of business.
Clark shoes.
I found a pair I really liked for a gift at Clark store in Toledo mall Friday morning. Didn't have the size.  But said they would get me the shoes by Christmas.  I later was looking over Clarks web site and they were out of stock on almost all sizes. 
Saturday morning the UPS guy shows up at my door wth the shoes.
The company was out so they found a store in Columbus that had them and were delivered within 24 hours..

Now that's going above and beyond!!!

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on December 18, 2017, 09:06:53 AM
Is anything going on with the Manufacturers Outlet over by 75?  I thought someone bought it but I haven't heard squat about it???
Last I heard - the Original "dreamer" passed away...     The Golf course is also part of that parcel deal - and it has likely gone on its last legs as well with the 3rd person in 3 years trying to run it on a miser budget with broken run down equipment.

The investment company that made the purchase - thought the Hospital system would choose this site - as there is much more land and is next to 75...  they forgot about that pesky train that cuts off the area I guess.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 18, 2017, 05:49:05 PM
Last I heard - the Original "dreamer" passed away...     The Golf course is also part of that parcel deal - and it has likely gone on its last legs as well with the 3rd person in 3 years trying to run it on a miser budget with broken run down equipment.

The investment company that made the purchase - thought the Hospital system would choose this site - as there is much more land and is next to 75...  they forgot about that pesky train that cuts off the area I guess.

LOL - can't they just build another multi-million dollar underpass with tax dollars?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 30, 2017, 09:53:27 AM
Two retailers with stores in Mall of Monroe are on this 'watch' list!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/retail/2017/12/27/17-retailers-on-the-2018-death-watch/108925914/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/retail/2017/12/27/17-retailers-on-the-2018-death-watch/108925914/)


I've been going out there to walk a couple of times a week with all this cold weather.

GNC seemed to have even less foot traffic than ever although the other vitamin store is having store closing sale so that probably drew some traffic away from GNC.

Claire's seems their regular busy.  They've pushed several of their displays out into the mall itself.  That's not really a hazard since there are so few people down at that end of the mall anyway.  If it wasn't for the walkers it might get pretty lonely!

What has surprised me is the Family Fun place (don't remember actual name) with all the inflatables.  They've actually added stuff over the summer months.  It still didn't seem like there were enough kids in there to cover what has to be a pretty good size electric bill to keep all those blowers running :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 31, 2017, 09:05:14 AM
We were out at the mall yesterday.  The Vitamin World (or whatever they were) was closed and cleaned out and there was a young guy up on a ladder plastering the windows with signs for GNC!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 02, 2018, 07:48:06 AM
Predictions for lots of bankruptcy filings and store closings of retail stores and also the predictions for already struggling malls!!!

http://www.businessinsider.com/store-closures-in-2018-will-eclipse-2017-2018-1 (http://www.businessinsider.com/store-closures-in-2018-will-eclipse-2017-2018-1)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on January 02, 2018, 09:34:01 AM
There's 3 of the remaining retailers from the mall on that list.   GNC, Claires, and Bon Ton-parent of Carsons.   Well more than 1/2 the remaining occupied square footage I would guess.   Down to 23 actual stores listed on the directory page once you filter out the unmanned kiosks, security, community room, etc.   

I don't believe the original guy from the outlet mall purchased passed away, I believe he just left the company.   He was the tie to the area having grown up here with family still in the area.   The company mostly operates in the Atlanta area.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on January 02, 2018, 02:25:25 PM
According to Facebook chatter, last remaining clothing store besides Carsons is closing in the next several days.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 02, 2018, 03:19:18 PM
According to Facebook chatter, last remaining clothing store besides Carsons is closing in the next several days.

One thing that is on the increase at the mall are the vending/gaming machines.  I guess if you  don't have to pay someone to staff a site it makes it affordable to operate.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on January 05, 2018, 09:04:55 AM
There's 3 of the remaining retailers from the mall on that list.   GNC, Claires, and Bon Ton-parent of Carsons.   Well more than 1/2 the remaining occupied square footage I would guess.   Down to 23 actual stores listed on the directory page once you filter out the unmanned kiosks, security, community room, etc.   

I don't believe the original guy from the outlet mall purchased passed away, I believe he just left the company.   He was the tie to the area having grown up here with family still in the area.   The company mostly operates in the Atlanta area.
They company that the guy worked for no longer employed him - after that "investment" decision.

the original "owner" who did die - is the one that got the property out of the lease from the township (the golf course) as they then saw the vision/dream not get followed through...   the investment company from Atlanta then bought it on the idea that Promedica was looking for a new site - but they gambled and lost...    Wrong golf course.


The young girl/teen store at the Mall is closing -  Justice...
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on January 05, 2018, 09:15:10 AM
The golf course that the investment company bought along with the large parking lot across the street  ;)  is on its 3rd manager in 3 years.   Can't imagine it will survive much longer - besides bad location that many courses can get around - it is not well maintained.  The only people I know who played it - played it cause it was cheap to play - and there was a reason it was.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on January 05, 2018, 02:33:28 PM
the original "owner" who did die - is the one that got the property out of the lease from the township (the golf course) as they then saw the vision/dream not get followed through...

Sorry, thought you were referring to the guy who was supposedly spearheading the outlet mall makeover, Chris Harter.  Don't know anything about the GC's history, at least until his company (at the time) bought it.

A hospital there would have been problematic due to the powerlines as well.   Especially for the helicopters.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 09, 2018, 08:44:46 AM
Walked by the Justice store yesterday.  Their 'Clearance Event' is paying dividends...  They have what stock is left spread out on a few stands up the middle of the store and lots of shelving disassembled and stacked neatly in the back corner of the display area. 

An observation on the former Olga's in the mall.  I was looking in there yesterday too.  All the tables are still in place and the chairs are all turned upside down and stacked neatly.  Looks like someone could walk in there and open up tomorrow. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on January 09, 2018, 10:09:56 AM
It'll probably still look like that when the demolition crews come.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on January 12, 2018, 02:59:56 PM
Multiple news sources are reporting that Carson's parent company will likely file bankruptcy in the next couple weeks.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 12, 2018, 10:37:04 PM
Medium size retailers are taking a helluva hit from the Internet and big retailers like Walmart.  Anymore, if I want something, I buy it on the net.  So much easier
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 13, 2018, 08:08:40 AM
Medium size retailers are taking a helluva hit from the Internet and big retailers like Walmart.  Anymore, if I want something, I buy it on the net.  So much easier

+1.

Better prices, get exactly what I want, shows up to the house a few days later.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on January 14, 2018, 08:24:42 AM
More importantly you can get it.   Locally, people are always willing to order something for you but you have to pay now, more than if you bought online, wait a week, then come back to pick it up, probably before 6PM because they don't do evenings.   Or you can stay home, order online and have it in a couple days to your home.   The excuse for the extra cost is always "service".   Well that's not service and if you don't stock it, you probably don't know much about it either.   

That said, everyone is blaming "online" but the real reason for the retail crash is overbuilding and venture capital.   Sure online is taking business, but not at the rate many of these well know retailers would like you to believe.   Venture capital firms bought up a ton of high flying retailers, including many that closed in Monroe, opened a million new location, saddled them with debt, took the cash and walked away.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 14, 2018, 10:04:45 AM
Oddly enough - when I do shop local - I usually go to a local merchant.

Jones for Men and Peerless come to mind.

Big Box stores?  Not so much - outside of home improvement items.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on January 14, 2018, 11:52:44 AM
Jones for Men rocks.....I patronize them for all my dress clothes.

What is Peerless?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 14, 2018, 12:02:27 PM
Jones for Men rocks.....I patronize them for all my dress clothes.

What is Peerless?


I assume he means Peerless Plumbing Supply on the east side of Telegraph just south of 7th Street.

http://www.peerlesssupply.net/ (http://www.peerlesssupply.net/)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 14, 2018, 02:49:05 PM
I assume he means Peerless Plumbing Supply on the east side of Telegraph just south of 7th Street.

[url]http://www.peerlesssupply.net/[/url] ([url]http://www.peerlesssupply.net/[/url])


Correct.

You can go to the big box store and get the wrong thing, or go to Peerless and get the right thing.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 14, 2018, 07:01:53 PM
Correct.

You can go to the big box store and get the wrong thing, or go to Peerless and get the right thing.

They're closer for me than driving to Lowes although you have to plan around their 'less convenient' hours. 

The staff at most big box home improvement places have a very wide range of knowledge and experience.  Unfortunately, most of them are at the lower end of the scale.

Where we go in Florida there is a guy in plumbing that is a retired master plumber.  He works at Lowes to keep busy and it's a lot cleaner than plumbing.  I keep track of his schedule and go when he's working if I need anything critical. 

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 14, 2018, 07:10:46 PM
You definitely have to plan around their hours - which for me often requires special actions to get there before they close.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on January 14, 2018, 10:51:04 PM
Lambertville Hardware occasionally has some retired skilled tradesman working the store..  Maybe they are there all the time. I usually don't buy anything to technical and can find it myself
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on January 15, 2018, 07:57:52 AM
I thought Peerless was wholesale only?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 15, 2018, 10:21:31 AM
The Lowes in Adrian used to have a retired journeyman electrician as the 'associate' but he too fully retired.  Now, there is a mindless associate.

Oh well.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on January 18, 2018, 06:21:26 PM
I thought Peerless was wholesale only?
They will let you "in" as they keep a miscellaneous account... 

They figure if you knew they were there - you're close enough to a business.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 24, 2018, 05:53:00 PM
We went to the mall this afternoon.

The lights are still on at Justice but the gate is closed.  There were two gals working at the very back of the store.  All the product was gone and just a few pieces of shelving and maybe the checkout counters stacked by the back door.

I was walking and on my last lap the two gals were just sitting and waiting.  I figured someone was hauling all the stuff the gals had stacked by the door!!!

Now someone has a job to go around the mall and tear down all the 'Justice' store ads they have had plastered in the fronts of all the closed stores.

Also noticed a 2nd thermometer taped to one of the vacant mall kiosks they have available. 

When the 'walkers' and the mall employees were accounted for there really weren't many people there at all. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 25, 2018, 09:58:03 AM
The Lowes in Adrian used to have a retired journeyman electrician as the 'associate' but he too fully retired.  Now, there is a mindless associate.

Oh well.

I can see why some of these previously retired 'trades' people would soon burnout working at the big box home improvement places.

Some customers need a little help finding where the right combination of products are located in the store.

Other customers want help with the most basic tasks of the entire project.

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 26, 2018, 09:24:22 AM
Traffic at Tim Horton's seems to be on the slow side at the various times I've been by there in the last couple of weeks. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on January 26, 2018, 10:06:47 AM
It'll bounce back.  The younger crowd seems to love Timmy Ho and they have short memories.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on January 26, 2018, 11:58:05 AM
Boneheads in Willis closed because of an outbreak too.

Don't scratch your *** then prepare food !!!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 26, 2018, 10:12:31 PM
I'll take Krispy Cremes over TH anyday. Neither are worth much but at least KC's are in sanitary packages.

Id that doughnut shop on Telegraph up by the old Lazy Boy still open?  I used to stop there and get fresh baked bombs once in a while....  Had a wicked jelly filled fry cake.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 26, 2018, 10:15:05 PM
Boneheads in Willis closed because of an outbreak too.

Don't scratch your *** then prepare food !!!

If you do, put on latex gloves after the act...... ;D

I have to visit Battery Warehouse soon.  Maybe I'll swing by TH's for a coffee.  Maybe I won't. ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 27, 2018, 09:09:00 AM
I'll take Krispy Cremes over TH anyday. Neither are worth much but at least KC's are in sanitary packages.

Id that doughnut shop on Telegraph up by the old Lazy Boy still open? I used to stop there and get fresh baked bombs once in a while....  Had a wicked jelly filled fry cake.

The only thing there I can think of is the other Tim Horton's. 

How long since you've been to this place?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 27, 2018, 12:09:53 PM
A while, maybe 10 years or more.  When I parked the rig in Monroe at Great Lakes Western Star on the way to the yard, I'd swing by and pick up a few.  They were just south of where the hot dog place was that went of business on the east side of Telegraph.

Lately, I don't even know what day it is.  CL had to tell me it was Saturday today.  Thought it was Friday...lol  Retirement has dulled my sense of dates.

When I was a kid, living in Cleveland, Dunkin had a shop in Middleburg Heights that I used to visit.  They made the doughnuts there and they were over the top.  I still fondly remember the chocolate filled ones.  Tremendous doughnuts.  I could sit down and consume a half dozen in one shot.  Glad I had a high metabolic rate.  I could have turned into a whale pretty quick.  I didn't.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on January 27, 2018, 02:50:41 PM
Baldu bakery if memory serves
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 27, 2018, 03:19:54 PM
Baldu bakery if memory serves

I believe you are right if memory serves me correctly.

I would think that with the crap Tim Horton's made off premises half stale doughnuts and the proliferation of fast food run of the mill places to eat in Monroe, a real, bake on premises doughnut shop with coffee and limited seating would do good in Monroe...  and you could branch out and sell them to convenience stores too.

I used to stop in Edgerton, Ohio on the way to Butler, Indiana for doughnuts as well.  If you didn't get there by 10 am, they were always sold out.  They were good too.  Baked in a local Fort Wayne shop and distributed every morning.

Good doughnuts always sell fast.  Stale doughnuts, not so fast.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 27, 2018, 03:33:55 PM
When I was a kid, I used to stay with my aunt and uncle in Norwalk, Ohio.  They owned and operated the Crystal Ball Resturant and bar on main street.

My uncle had a catering route and visited all the local plants every morning.  He had an old converted Divco milk truck set up with a big coffee urn and racks for doughnuts and cold sandwiches.

Every morning about 4am my cousin and my uncle and I would go to the Crystal Ball and down in the basement to make doughnuts, churning the dough in big floor mixers, cooking them in hot fat and filling the cloth filling funnels with all sorts of good fillings to put into the doughnuts.

I learned how to crack eggs 4 at a time and how to tell when the doughnuts were cooked properly (they float in the hot oil).  I spent every morning in the basement in the summer helping out making doughnuts, learning how to brew bulk coffee (always add a pad or 2 of butter ro each urn) and loading the trays and filling the urns so my uncle could make his rounds and we always rode along too.

Was quite an experience for a pre teen and I still remember it pretty well after all these years.

Some years later, my cousin slipped when putting in doughnuts to cook and submerged his entire arm in the hot oil and to this day has limited use of his right arm and hand.  Very tragic.  Only takes a second in the hot oil to change your life forever.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on January 27, 2018, 05:41:22 PM



Every morning at 4:00am:  Thats why local bakeries no longer exist and why Baldu finally went out of business. It takes a lot of dedication and hard work to run a bakery especially the getting up at 3:00am to get started part. The owners of Baldu couldn't get anybody family or otherwise,  interested in taking over the business so they retired and closed up shop.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on January 27, 2018, 09:19:08 PM
Try this place.  It's  awesome.
http://www.bakeryunlimitedtoledo.com (http://www.bakeryunlimitedtoledo.com)
It's on Secor a little before Sylvania Ave.

They try new stuff occasionally. Polish coffee cake is terirific.
They started making apple fritter bread. Now I have tough decisions..

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 28, 2018, 11:16:29 AM
There was a little donut shop on the west side of Telegraph south of LayZBoy...

seems like it may have been a Dawn Donuts shop but not positive.

Today it's an insurance office and maybe yet another cell phone store.

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 28, 2018, 03:10:34 PM
If you guys like over the top baked goods, I suggest ordering a loaf of Povitica (Polish Nut Bread) from Strawberry Hill Povitica.  The stuff is addicting.  I recommend the English Walnut.  It's heavenly with some butter on top, warmed in the microwave.

I think we have 5 loaves in the freezer.  It keeps very well.

Discussing doughnuts has sparked my sweet tooth.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: eriemermaid on January 28, 2018, 05:21:11 PM
There was a little donut shop on the west side of Telegraph south of LayZBoy...

seems like it may have been a Dawn Donuts shop but not positive.

Today it's an insurance office and maybe yet another cell phone store.





I think it was just called the Donut Shop, and was located in the middle of the strip mall.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 28, 2018, 07:22:55 PM
Monica's still makes their own donuts:

http://www.monicasbakerboy.com/ (http://www.monicasbakerboy.com/)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 28, 2018, 07:24:30 PM
Monicas Baker Boy makes a mean doughnut.

Good cakes and cookies too.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on January 28, 2018, 10:46:56 PM
Monicas Baker Boy makes a mean doughnut.

Good cakes and cookies too.
I'll take Monica's any day!   
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on January 31, 2018, 03:46:14 PM
Carsons in Monroe NOT closing, at least at this point in time.   Adrian Elder Beerman is on the list.

https://globenewswire.com/news-release/2018/01/31/1329553/0/en/The-Bon-Ton-Stores-Inc-Announces-Locations-of-Store-Closures-as-Part-of-Store-Rationalization-Program.html
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on February 19, 2018, 01:05:48 PM
It appears that Osterman Jewelers at the mall closed.   Not surprising since they are a sister store of Kay which is still open for now.   Rumor has it they are moving to Telegraph Rd this year.

GenX games on Telegraph has a Store Closing sign up again.   They did last fall to.   Not sure what their deal is.

The Coney Island on Telegraph, in the shopping center with Dollar Tree, Pizza Hut and Biggby apparently abruptly closed too.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on February 19, 2018, 01:21:50 PM
Beerman in Adrian has already commenced their closing sale.  That means prices will be comparable to everyone else now.

Coney's are either real good or real bad and no in between.  The one on the west side of Dundee is good, the one downtown sucks.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on February 19, 2018, 03:31:20 PM
Didn't realize Osterman Jewelers was owned by Kay.  Osterman Jewelers use to a family jeweler in DT Toledo next to Tiedtkes for years..
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on February 19, 2018, 08:20:58 PM
It appears that Osterman Jewelers at the mall closed.   Not surprising since they are a sister store of Kay which is still open for now.   Rumor has it they are moving to Telegraph Rd this year.

GenX games on Telegraph has a Store Closing sign up again.   They did last fall to.   Not sure what their deal is.

The Coney Island on Telegraph, in the shopping center with Dollar Tree, Pizza Hut and Biggby apparently abruptly closed too.

I was at the mall walking one day late last week and they were still open although I have noticed the last couple of weeks that the staff from each store was spending a lot of time in the other store so just kind of had a hunch something was up. 



Didn't realize Osterman Jewelers was owned by Kay.  Osterman Jewelers use to a family jeweler in DT Toledo next to Tiedtkes for years..

I'm assuming all this info is credible (I don't have any reason not to believe it):

Looks like the parent company of both is Sterling Inc.

Quote
The list of Sterling Inc. (Signet Group in the UK) Brand Names are:

Kay Jewelers

Jared the Galleria of Jewelers
J.B. Robinson Jewelers
Marks & Morgan Jewelers
Belden Jewelers
Weisfield Jewelers
Osterman Jewelers
Friedlanders Jewelers
Rogers Jewelers
Goodman Jewelers
LeRoys Jewelers
Shane’s Jewelers
H. Samuel (UK)
Ernest Jones (UK)

Here's where I found the info:

https://www.jewelry-secrets.com/Blog/mall-jewelry-stores-same-jewelry/ (https://www.jewelry-secrets.com/Blog/mall-jewelry-stores-same-jewelry/)

A lot of people don't realize that Kroger owns over 400 jewelry stores. 

They only have a few of the jewelry stores in some of their larger stores around here but I think they have one in the Lambertville 'Marketplace' Store. 

My wife would get a catalog from them occasionally and they also provided all the awards for employee milestones.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on February 20, 2018, 09:34:12 AM
Yes there's a Fred Meyer in the Lambertville Kroger.   Looks just like any other mall jeweler, just stick in between the front door and the pharmacy.

Scanning Gen X games Facebook page, apparently they are moving to the Big Lots plaza.   Apparently they are having a fire sale to raise the cash they need to move.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on February 20, 2018, 09:59:45 AM
I rarely see the Fred Meyer store.  As you say it's by the door but the only people that would use that door might be the ones going just to the pharmacy..
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on February 21, 2018, 08:48:51 PM
I rarely see the Fred Meyer store.  As you say it's by the door but the only people that would use that door might be the ones going just to the pharmacy..

I've only been in the store since they finished all the expansion and renovation and I never noticed it. 

But, I wasn't looking for it either I guess.


I went to the mall to walk late yesterday afternoon. 

There was a crew still working in Osterman's and the guy I always figured was the manager was there and walking back and forth between there and Kay's. 

They were disassembling the display cases and other cabinetry and by the time I had finished walking they were starting to take some of the smaller cabinets out on a dolly to a truck.  They'll need a bigger crew for some of the larger display cases.  The door to the 'back room' was open and they also have a very large safe to move.  That will take some specialized equipment.  I wonder if they'll do that while the mall is open or do it at night?

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on March 01, 2018, 08:19:23 AM
The Wrapped Gift gift shop/shipping center on Telegraph near the Secretary of State closed late last year.   Now it appears the parent company, Dandy Packaging (I think the husband owned the packaging company and the wife ran the gift shop) has shut down too and the building is for sale.   Hopefully something goes in there, seems like a pretty decent building.   
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on March 16, 2018, 05:41:17 PM
Heard the Stop and Run convenience store on M-50 is closing.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on March 16, 2018, 05:53:25 PM
It sure seems like Monroe is struggling.

Other communities in the area are booming, but not Monroe.

That is what it looks like to me anyway.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on March 16, 2018, 06:45:00 PM
Heard the Stop and Run convenience store on M-50 is closing.

The first reference I ever heard to a 'Stop & Go' store was from a detective friend and he referred to it as the 'Stop & Rob'!!!

I was reading a business story earlier this week on the proliferation of all the dollar type stores and how their business has to be coming from somewhere. 

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on March 16, 2018, 08:39:18 PM
I keep getting a pop up that says I won something from amazon when getting into this session and it’s almost impossible to get rid of.

Have to answer 3 questions to entry do I tried giving bogus answers thinking they say sorry and good bye but no they say you won. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on March 17, 2018, 09:37:55 AM
I keep getting a pop up that says I won something from amazon when getting into this session and it’s almost impossible to get rid of.

Have to answer 3 questions to entry do I tried giving bogus answers thinking they say sorry and good bye but no they say you won.

Sounds like something got past your virus protection.

They're pretty sneaky at disguising their attempts to something that looks like part of what you use every day. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 17, 2018, 10:48:57 AM
I keep getting a pop up that says I won something from amazon when getting into this session and it’s almost impossible to get rid of.

Have to answer 3 questions to entry do I tried giving bogus answers thinking they say sorry and good bye but no they say you won.

Install Ad Blocker Plus in addition to the recently updated version of CCleaner (you do update yours I presume?).  I run CCleaner every evening before I have my Sleepy Time tea before bed.

I've never had any pop ups on this site or any others I frequent.

My new laptop (the one I'm on right now) has Trend Microsystems Business anti-virus installed with overlay's by RWK in Chicago.  It runs 24/7 real time monitoring with continuous updates unlike Norton or Avast or any other anti virus program out there.  It even blocks all suspicious sites without any input on my part and deletes them including all malware and dark web sites.

Works very well.

I have everything but the kitchen sink on this new laptop.  It has the complete suite of programmer tools (Windows 10 professional 64 bit), 3D drawing, 3 browsers, skype, built in web cam, blue tooth, wifi, and a pile of stuff I don't even need or want actually.  It's FAST too, much faster than I am...lol

The one thing I'm most impressed with is the solid state (chipset) hard drive.  No heat, no whirrr, nothing and because it's solid state, the computer is very thin and light.  It's maybe 1/2" thick, maybe.  You never have to defrag or format it either.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on March 17, 2018, 11:20:15 AM
I should have clarified this only happens on my phone..
I too have Ad Blocker Plus
And it only happens here
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 17, 2018, 02:58:02 PM
I get stuff on my phone all the time too.  I just ignore it.  I run CCleaner on my phone as well.  Because of the service I have (Boost Mobile), I cannot block the ads unless I pay to block them.  Not gonna do that.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on March 17, 2018, 04:40:25 PM
It gets annoying as it pop ups in middle of doing something on this site. I have to get out and go away before trying to get back. Sometimes it takes 3 or 4 attempts. 
And so far it only happens on Monroetalks..
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 17, 2018, 04:51:37 PM
I don't use my phone for Internet, just my laptop.  Screen is too dam small.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on April 12, 2018, 11:04:15 PM
Stopped by Asiana a few days ago - in the strip mall just south of River on Telegraph -    apparently they closed
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on April 21, 2018, 10:01:01 AM
Northville Downs harness racing track is closing in a few years at their present location.  Meanwhile they're looking for a new location.  It appears they're hoping for an existing modern facility but not sure where they expect to find that. 

I wonder if they would consider moving down this way now that the track in Toledo has closed?  We're not big harness racing fans although we'd been to Northville a few times with a group from work.  Great dinner actually. 

I do know a few families that are still very involved in racing and there are several farms in our area where we see them working with their horses. 

Just seems like with the hole left in the area maybe this would be a decent area for them to consider moving to.

http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2018/04/northville_downs_new_site.html (http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2018/04/northville_downs_new_site.html)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on April 21, 2018, 02:22:56 PM
Raceway Park is gone.   They demo'd everything and Ann Arbor Railroad bought the property to build a new car storage facility.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on April 22, 2018, 08:53:04 AM
Raceway Park is gone.   They demo'd everything and Ann Arbor Railroad bought the property to build a new car storage facility.

We watched the crews tearing it down.  I even stopped and took a few pictures of them knocking down the last of the barns to send to a friend that pretty much grew up there.

Eventually they put up the screen or fence around it so you really can't see much now unless it's big equipment working.  At some point they're going to have to lay a rail line or three in and out of the property and I haven't seen anything happening along that line.  Looks like the new Lucas County and Toledo Jail is going in right across Telegraph.  The county has purchased the property although there are neighborhood groups that are fighting it.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on April 22, 2018, 11:15:09 AM
Yep, that's where they want to put the jail. 
People will complain about anything but that seems like a good spot for the jail.
One big issue was neighbors; and there aren't many, were worried about escapees terrorizing the neighborhood.  Not likely
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 22, 2018, 12:55:20 PM
Not much there in the way of 'neighborhood.  Couple tit bars and gas stations and thats about it.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: rwwjr on April 22, 2018, 02:36:52 PM
Not much there in the way of 'neighborhood.  Couple tit bars and gas stations and thats about it.

And the problem with that would be???????
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 22, 2018, 03:32:00 PM
Nothing if you like tit bars and gas stations. Not paying a -premium price for a watered down drink to have some sleazeball shake their oversized saggy sisters at me or shinny up a chrome pole.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on April 22, 2018, 05:07:12 PM
Sounds like you've been there
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on April 23, 2018, 08:07:04 AM
Not much there in the way of 'neighborhood.  Couple tit bars and gas stations and thats about it.

There are a couple of auto salvage yards there along Detroit Street (S. Dixie to us) and quite a few businesses along Telegraph. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on April 23, 2018, 08:27:58 AM
Nothing if you like tit bars and gas stations. Not paying a -premium price for a watered down drink to have some sleazeball shake their oversized saggy sisters at me or shinny up a chrome pole.

I've always heard those poles were made out of brass :-\ :-\ :-\

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on April 23, 2018, 08:38:28 AM
I guess we'll have to ask Side
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 23, 2018, 09:23:02 AM
I've always heard those poles were made out of brass :-\ :-\ :-\

All the ones I've seem were chrome plated steel.... ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 23, 2018, 09:34:31 AM
Sounds like you've been there

Years ago, In Ontario Province when snowmobiling.  Up there, every pub has a strip show in the basement and chrome poles abound.....lol

They also serve hard booze and the gals get entirely naked, unlike here..... ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 23, 2018, 08:38:01 AM
We were in Ida Thursday afternoon and noticed the little grocery store on the south side of town is all closed up. 

We would occasionally stop there if we were on our way home from US-23 or points west. 

I'm sure people in the area are finding it a loss.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on June 23, 2018, 08:50:32 AM
It was for sale for quite some time.   Owner must have given up on it.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 23, 2018, 08:59:31 AM
It was for sale for quite some time.   Owner must have given up on it.


Here's an old LoopNet listing but not a lot of info:

http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/17525022/3245-Lews-Ave-Ida-MI/ (http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/17525022/3245-Lews-Ave-Ida-MI/)

Looks like a great location for a marijuana retail outlet.  Seems like there may be a church just south of there and across the street.  Not sure what the guidelines may end up being for that.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on June 23, 2018, 09:38:13 AM
I saw that Toledo approved a dispensary on West Sylvania. Opening Soon !!!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 23, 2018, 05:02:28 PM
I saw that Toledo approved a dispensary on West Sylvania. Opening Soon !!!

Friend of yours??? ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on June 23, 2018, 09:27:00 PM
Nope don't know him. It had his name. I heard today another one has been approved in Maumee.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 27, 2018, 08:29:47 AM
I saw a sign out in front of Penguin Music on S. Monroe street that says they're closing.  I have no idea how long they've been there but we helped support them for a couple of years back when our oldest was in junior high band. 

I know that's kind of a niche business but it was always nice to be able to pick up reeds and get any minor repairs right there and in just a few minutes. 

Anyone know more details?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on June 27, 2018, 02:44:12 PM
The way it looked, I honestly thought they closed a long time ago.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on June 27, 2018, 03:36:19 PM
Might be adding the China Buffet to the list
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 27, 2018, 04:25:56 PM
Might be adding the China Buffet to the list

I'm not a big fan of Chinese food or buffet style restaurants to start with.  I haven't been in there since it was Ponderosa or Bonanza or whatever the steakhouse was. 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 27, 2018, 04:30:02 PM
The way it looked, I honestly thought they closed a long time ago.

Maybe they did...

I just noticed the sign but not a place I'd typically be watching the sign either.

Even when our daughter was doing the 'band' thing and we'd be in there more often there wasn't a lot of traffic.  I don't ever remember having to jockey for a parking spot.

Is there some place similar in the area?

Seems like the band kids will need a place like this to go.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on June 27, 2018, 06:30:33 PM
No other place to put this

Whiskey Jack's barbecue trailer wanted to park out in front of Budshydro on Telegraph on Thursdays and Fridays and the Monroe Charter Township board voted NO !!
They said 2 days a week for 4 hours at a time was too permanent to be considered without a site plan and a rezoning.

Why didn't they just say" We don't want you in our community " " because its such a fantastic community now that a food trailer would be a disgrace "



Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on June 28, 2018, 06:49:45 AM
Don't be so down.  I'm sure the city of Monroe would have been even worse.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: The Fuzz on June 28, 2018, 07:48:54 AM
No other place to put this

Whiskey Jack's barbecue trailer wanted to park out in front of Budshydro on Telegraph on Thursdays and Fridays and the Monroe Charter Township board voted NO !!
They said 2 days a week for 4 hours at a time was too permanent to be considered without a site plan and a rezoning.

Why didn't they just say" We don't want you in our community " " because its such a fantastic community now that a food trailer would be a disgrace "

Unreal......entrepreneurship killed by local regulation!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on June 28, 2018, 08:00:35 AM
I would say it was more killed over the local governments bias to supporting a traditional restaurant that would pay property taxes over a food truck that would not.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 28, 2018, 08:36:41 AM
Not sure where I posted it but I'm sure I did...

A food truck up in Midland had been a regular downtown for a few years and then they decided to go to a full bricks and mortar 'sit down' business plan and they chose downtown Midland to sit up in. 

I'm afraid the Monroe 'mindset' is just unbreakable :( :( :(
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on June 28, 2018, 08:58:26 AM
The difference is that it was going to be located on a bricks and mortar property that pays a substantial amount of property taxes too. They weren't proposing being on the sidewalk or in the road right of way.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on June 28, 2018, 08:59:16 AM
Currently they are at Cheers on Saturdays and at Clamdiggers on most fridays.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 28, 2018, 09:04:40 AM
No other place to put this

Whiskey Jack's barbecue trailer wanted to park out in front of Budshydro on Telegraph on Thursdays and Fridays and the Monroe Charter Township board voted NO !!
They said 2 days a week for 4 hours at a time was too permanent to be considered without a site plan and a rezoning.

Why didn't they just say" We don't want you in our community " " because its such a fantastic community now that a food trailer would be a disgrace "






Doesn't look like they'd be much competition for any of the 'locals'.

BBQ is something that I seldom get in a bricks and mortar restaurant unless it's their specialty. 

Just not something you can do justice to unless you have the equipment and the time AND the skill. 

http://www.whiskeyjacksbbq.com/ (http://www.whiskeyjacksbbq.com/)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 28, 2018, 09:08:20 AM
The difference is that it was going to be located on a bricks and mortar property that pays a substantial amount of property taxes too. They weren't proposing being on the sidewalk or in the road right of way.

That's a plus. 

Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on December 05, 2018, 07:20:17 AM
Hopefully they will rebuild, but if I had to bet, I'd go with adding Nortel Lanes to the list this morning.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 05, 2018, 05:41:46 PM
Hopefully they will rebuild, but if I had to bet, I'd go with adding Nortel Lanes to the list this morning.

Like I posted on the other thread, is a bowling alley a viable business today?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on December 06, 2018, 12:32:14 PM
Dick Sieb's comments to the paper, and the post Nortel Lanes made on Facebook sure doesn't sound like they plan to be back.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 06, 2018, 02:23:06 PM
I'm guessing the Seniors Doubles Tournament is cancelled?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on December 06, 2018, 11:10:25 PM
Dick Sieb's comments to the paper, and the post Nortel Lanes made on Facebook sure doesn't sound like they plan to be back.

I was with him today -  he said it would take a year at least - and they are reviewing the cost to rebuild before they make the decision -  its a corporation he's not the sole proprietor.   

It was funny that someone called him to see when they could get in to get their ball out of their locker  :) 
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 07, 2018, 09:33:26 PM
It was funny that someone called him to see when they could get in to get their ball out of their locker  :)

UFB.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 08, 2018, 07:53:10 AM
I'm guessing the Seniors Doubles Tournament is cancelled?

Paint some 'lanes' on Telegraph road and let them 'bowl' on there.  Problem is, the pot holes will alter the path of the ball....

I find bowling to be on par with golf.  2 lame past times. ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on December 08, 2018, 08:33:37 AM
Paint some 'lanes' on Telegraph road and let them 'bowl' on there.  Problem is, the pot holes will alter the path of the ball....

I find bowling to be on par with golf.  2 lame past times. ;D
You'd be surprised... its one of the few things left that allowed groups of people to be entertained and socialize...
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on December 08, 2018, 08:47:40 AM
Nortel was always busy when I was there, not that it was that often.   And busy doesn't translate to profitable.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 08, 2018, 02:35:13 PM
You'd be surprised... its one of the few things left that allowed groups of people to be entertained and socialize...

Not at all.  I used to bowl, way back when.  Church, bowling and the YMCA.  My personal experience with bowling always involved booze however and in as much as I'm a non-drinking alcoholic, the booze part don't trip my trigger any more.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 26, 2018, 09:13:15 PM
From what I hear the greater Monroe area has lost a car dealership.

Ralph Thayer Volkswagen aka the Elite Motor Mall has closed up.

It would appear they have moved their Toyota Franchise to Dundee as "Wolverine Toyota."  Not real original.

Not sure what they did with the other franchises they owned.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 26, 2018, 09:22:27 PM
Interesting.  It's across the road (M50) from the TSC store.  I don't know if Dundee is a good market spot for cars or not.  Spirit Ford has been there a while and now they have a FCA dealership down from Spirit.  I wouldn't do business at Spirit / Tansel Ford anyway.  Don't like their attitude.  You couldn't give me an FCA product.

I was wondering how that had all those used cars instantly....  Now I know.

Didn't Thayer have a Mazda franchise too?

Dundee is really turning into the 'Hub of the Highway'....lol  Hubcap.

Like to see a Wallyworld or a Meijers.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 26, 2018, 09:32:54 PM
I think they had Toyota, Mazda, and Volkswagen.

I heard from a victim that their service department was pretty lousy.

Had an acquaintance take a Mazda that wouldn't start into their fine dealership.  They threw thousands of dollars of parts and labor at it, and couldn't get it to run. 

I googled their make and model and wouldn't start, and all the internet pointed at it being the timing belt, and their mileage was far beyond the recommended interval to change it, but the articles also indicated that the valve train was typically not damaged when the belt failed. 

The dealership still wouldn't pursue the timing belt.

They hauled it over to Pauls Automotive, they changed the belt for a reasonable cost, and the car is still running.

They didn't pay the full bill at Elite - given they blew the diagnosis badly.  Pauls Automotive was very helpful giving them the evidence of everything they did wrong to get the price down.  It isn't difficult to diagnose a timing belt, but their so called mechanic just addressing the multiple codes that the computer was throwing instead of thinking - what could cause ALL the codes.

If their experience was typical - I guess it makes sense you would leave town and change your name.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 27, 2018, 08:07:23 AM
Sounds like they hire quality tech's.  Must be a minimum wage place.  Won't be going there anyway, no 'rota's' in this family.  We do domestic cars...
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 27, 2018, 06:16:32 PM
Sounds like they hire quality tech's.  Must be a minimum wage place.  Won't be going there anyway, no 'rota's' in this family.  We do domestic cars...

Which leads to the conversation of what exactly is a domestic car these days?

Is it the name plate or where it is built?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 27, 2018, 11:13:11 PM
Good question.  It's the world class manufacturing thing.  No such thing as a domestic vehicle today.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 27, 2018, 11:15:42 PM
Assembled here from a mish-mash of parts sourced world wide, usually from the lowest bidder.   Build them cheap, stack them deep and deal with recalls later on... ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on December 28, 2018, 07:39:30 AM
Really, is a Fusion engineered in Europe and built in Mexico more domestic than a Toyota engineered in Ann Arbor and built in Kentucky?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 28, 2018, 08:29:05 AM
When it comes to automobiles, I determine the 'where it's made' by where the profit goes.  Easiest way.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 28, 2018, 06:47:10 PM
When it comes to automobiles, I determine the 'where it's made' by where the profit goes.  Easiest way.

The profits go to where ever the share holders live.

So you don't consider Chrysler a domestic anymore?

If you don't - what the heck was the point in spending all that money bailing them out?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 28, 2018, 08:39:23 PM
The profits go to where ever the share holders live.

So you don't consider Chrysler a domestic anymore?

If you don't - what the heck was the point in spending all that money bailing them out?

I (you, me, we) didn't have a choice.  Our handlers decided that for us.

Sergio did ok.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 28, 2018, 09:01:39 PM
I (you, me, we) didn't have a choice.  Our handlers decided that for us.

Sergio did ok.

Sergio - no investment in cars, just sell Ram Trucks and Jeeps.

Not a difficult formula - is it?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 29, 2018, 08:32:20 AM
Sergio - no investment in cars, just sell Ram Trucks and Jeeps.

Not a difficult formula - is it?

..and not build them well either...lol

His Fiat 500 was a bust here as was the Abarth.  What an ugly POS car.  Looks like a turd on wheels.  The new Jeep Gladiator isn't much either but I'm sure the followers will suck them up.  Said before, never been a FCA fan, I know what lurks underneath them.  Only saving grace with their pickup trucks is the Common Rail Cummins engine and the American Axle's.

What is good for Europe isn't necessarily good for America.  Their Promaster vans aren't bad either.  Probably assembled in Turkey ad shipped into Baltimore.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on December 29, 2018, 09:14:22 AM
Car dealers on the South end of town are challenged...   its that dead zone that seems to be Monroe Township



Someday a study will be done
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 29, 2018, 06:58:24 PM
Car dealers on the South end of town are challenged...   its that dead zone that seems to be Monroe Township



Someday a study will be done

If the city don't run out of money first....  a distinct possibility.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 29, 2018, 07:03:01 PM
The 'study' that should be done is a study outlining how to turn Monroe around from it's apparent decline. and become more fiscally responsible.  Probably asking too much.

CL and I were sitting in Cuvers in Adrian last week and remarking about how vibrant Adrian was, unlike Monroe.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 29, 2018, 07:06:01 PM
Car dealers on the South end of town are challenged...   its that dead zone that seems to be Monroe Township



Someday a study will be done

By the City I presume?  Even though they would be studying the township?

Its not like they haven't done that before.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 30, 2018, 12:41:12 PM
Big article in the MN today about DTE.  If I owned DTE, think I'd close the coal fired plant altogether and let Monroe go down the toilet faster than they already are)....  Since when can local government dictate what a private  company can or cannot do?

They need to tell Patsue or whatever his name is to take a flying fu.

At some point it will be shuttered anyway.  Might as well make it sooner. ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 30, 2018, 03:20:22 PM
Big article in the MN today about DTE.  If I owned DTE, think I'd close the coal fired plant altogether and let Monroe go down the toilet faster than they already are)....  Since when can local government dictate what a private  company can or cannot do?

They need to tell Patsue or whatever his name is to take a flying fu.

At some point it will be shuttered anyway.  Might as well make it sooner. ;D

+1.

I told City Officials 10 years ago they needed to start planning for this day because it was inevitable.

They told me no way that plant would ever close in our lifetimes - let the good times roll.

Well - the good times are about over in Moron County.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on January 02, 2019, 12:13:02 PM
But  with all the green initiatives -  Nuclear should be gold!     Fermi III   will save the region ;)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on January 02, 2019, 02:35:35 PM
Apparently Ann Arbor Welding Supply closed their Monroe location sometime this fall.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 02, 2019, 05:58:03 PM
Apparently Ann Arbor Welding Supply closed their Monroe location sometime this fall.

And no one noticed?

 8*
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on January 02, 2019, 09:14:54 PM
I thought I mentioned it somewhere. The dealings I had with them were not the best. They shorted me regularly on the gas volume that I paid for. The gasses they did sell me had nasty impurities in them and their billing Dept sucked big time. I was constantly calling them out and they constantly lied about their products, pricing and purity.
I wasn't surprised at all that they didn't last around here.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 02, 2019, 09:51:36 PM
And no one noticed?

 8*

Baker is still there (on Dixie by the park).  Didn't even know AA Welding had a store in Monroe.  Problem is, no one has a compressor station around Monroe so I go to AirGas on Enterprise Blvd., in Toledo to get my owned tanks filled.  The have the compressors and separators there and I have a commercial account as well.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on January 02, 2019, 10:25:36 PM
Baker's is good people for the most part. Gas weights are accurate. Prices competitive. Always helpful.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 03, 2019, 09:40:49 AM
Baker's is good people for the most part. Gas weights are accurate. Prices competitive. Always helpful.

Yes, they are plus they have an online site and their online site beat IOC's prices on Lincoln TIG machines.  I bout a Lincoln Versa Pak TIG machine from Baker online and has it delivered to the Monroe store and I picked it up there, all nicely crated and loaded in my pickup truck by a friendly and careful fork lift driver.  No tax either because I have a commercial account there as well.  Bought my Hyper Therm 85 computer controlled Plasma cutter from Air Gas,  I like to spread the 'wealth' around.  IMO, Hyper Therm is the best plasma you can buy.  My 85 will sever 2.5" plate and clean cut 1" if need be.

None of it was cheap.  I think the plasma was 5 grand, the Tig was 4 grand or there about.  You always pay fr quality machines.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on January 30, 2019, 01:26:28 PM
Another big nail in the Mall of Monroe coffin...https://www.toledoblade.com/business/development/2019/01/30/michaels-to-close-pat-catans-nearly-three-years-after-buying-local-craft-store-chain/stories/20190130134 (https://www.toledoblade.com/business/development/2019/01/30/michaels-to-close-pat-catans-nearly-three-years-after-buying-local-craft-store-chain/stories/20190130134)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on January 30, 2019, 04:15:09 PM
That store seemed to do well when it was on the south side of Monroe.  Lots of Toledo people quit going when they moved to the other side of town
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 30, 2019, 07:44:11 PM
Understandable.  Driving up from the south side of town is always miserable.  Too much traffic, ill timed lights and poor roadway.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on February 01, 2019, 12:04:52 PM
Business closing, yes, but changing hands and staying a local gun shop and shooting range.

After 28 years in the business of selling guns and other sporting goods, I have sold the gun shop. Wolverine Shooting Sports in Brownstown MI will soon become Downriver Guns and Ammo. The new owner, Joshua Foucher, is young, energetic, and has the same passion for the gun industry I had 28 years ago. He will have to work very hard, but I am confident he will be very successful.

ALL current Wolverine range memberships will be honored by the new owners.
ALL current RV Storage contracts will be honored by the new owners.
ALL orders currently on the books will be completed and honored by the new owners.
Business will continue, but Josh will be posting on Facebook soon with new hours, and other information for our valued customers.

It is a very bittersweet time for me. Over the years, the gun business has treated me well - But in recent years, I haven't been able to spend the time needed to run the business properly, and I knew I needed to move on. My time was spread too thin between all of the various jobs that I have, and all of my work has suffered because of it.
My customers saw the decline in inventory as the business went through some tough times.
That will change soon. Downriver Guns will have a TON of inventory (hundreds and hundreds of guns) and they will be making some very big changes to the business.

Now I want to focus on working with my electrical business and farming, and maybe have a little time to go camping and do some fishing with my family.
I want to thank my wife, Amanda (AtypicalGirl here on MT) for working by my side through the very complicated process of selling the business and property. I'm hoping we can start enjoying life again soon.
I also want to thank all of our loyal customers. I will miss you all. You have given us 28 years of success, and you will be very pleased with what Josh will be offering you soon.

Gary Taepke
Owner
Wolverine Shooting Sports, Inc.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on February 01, 2019, 03:03:16 PM
Congrats Live !!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: tnweasel on February 01, 2019, 03:36:58 PM
The 'study' that should be done is a study outlining how to turn Monroe around from it's apparent decline. and become more fiscally responsible.  Probably asking too much.

CL and I were sitting in Cuvers in Adrian last week and remarking about how vibrant Adrian was, unlike Monroe.

my husband and I went to Chomps in Adrian last weekend and he noticed the same thing.... good looking town....
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on February 01, 2019, 03:41:42 PM
+1 Gary....  Guess I'll have to see the new owner next time I want to buy a piece...  Actually, I have more than enough now.  Should sell a few off as my toolbox is too full.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on February 01, 2019, 03:44:11 PM
my husband and I went to Chomps in Adrian last weekend and he noticed the same thing.... good looking town....

Adrian is everything Monroe should be but isn't.  Granted Adrian does have it's issues but the city government is much more attuned to current times than Monroe is.

We very seldom go to Monroe.  If it's not the traffic (horrible), it's the depressing downtown district.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on February 08, 2019, 09:54:21 AM
Rite Aid closed recently.    Apparently related to Walgreens purchase of about 1/2 of Rite Aid last fall.    Read on the interwebs there's going to be a liquidation sale which means the stuff should only be a little more expensive than Meijer or Walmart.

Probably not going to be an easy vacancy to fill.   Maybe another dollar store?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on February 08, 2019, 01:32:24 PM
Rite Aid closed recently.    Apparently related to Walgreens purchase of about 1/2 of Rite Aid last fall.    Read on the interwebs there's going to be a liquidation sale which means the stuff should only be a little more expensive than Meijer or Walmart.

Probably not going to be an easy vacancy to fill.   Maybe another dollar store?

Marijuana Dispensary?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on February 08, 2019, 02:03:48 PM
I believe that corner is in the city, so no.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on February 08, 2019, 05:19:51 PM
I believe that corner is in the city, so no.

Well - Wal-Greens can move to the Rite Aide they bought....

Then Monroe Township can open the dispensary.

Pretty sure it would do well there.

Lots of traffic - and walking distance for Fuzz.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: livewire on February 10, 2019, 09:42:36 AM
Rite Aid closed recently.    Apparently related to Walgreens purchase of about 1/2 of Rite Aid last fall.    Read on the interwebs there's going to be a liquidation sale which means the stuff should only be a little more expensive than Meijer or Walmart.

Probably not going to be an easy vacancy to fill.   Maybe another dollar store?

Maybe a new gun shop?   ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on February 10, 2019, 10:29:37 AM
The city would have to study that.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on February 10, 2019, 10:43:12 AM
Maybe the City can buy it with tax payer dollars, and then give it to the Battlefield Foundation for $1.

That would be par for the course.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on February 10, 2019, 10:49:38 AM
Well yeah, residents don't have anything else to do with their money.  Just give it to the government
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on February 11, 2019, 09:39:24 AM
What does monroe need (Rite aide location) could be a whole new topic! 

-  another pizza place
-  party store
-  gas station
-  dollar store
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on February 11, 2019, 11:13:18 AM
some people in Bedford all giddy over the new Dollar Gen store just opening.  1/4 mile from Kroger
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on February 11, 2019, 07:38:10 PM
What does monroe need (Rite aide location) could be a whole new topic! 

-  another pizza place
-  party store
-  gas station
-  dollar store

An Olive Garden with a Bowling Alley?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on February 12, 2019, 11:09:22 AM
Well Forestview alleys in Bedford on Dean rd with it's own restaurant inside and out doing pretty well.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on February 12, 2019, 04:46:38 PM
The city would have to conduct a study to see whether or not that would be a good fit here.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on February 12, 2019, 04:48:30 PM
The city would have to conduct a study to see whether or not that would be a good fit here.

Probably outsourced to the firm that John Iacoangeli is a partner in - and the answer they would give would be whatever John wanted it to be.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Professor H on February 14, 2019, 06:30:32 PM
They haven't even started clearing away the debri yet -  I know the members of the "board" and I know if the cost is right - you could see the similar operations.   
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: tnweasel on February 18, 2019, 05:27:13 PM
What does monroe need (Rite aide location) could be a whole new topic! 

-  another pizza place
-  party store
-  gas station
-  dollar store

Chick-fil-a?
Long John Silvers?
Tropical Smoothie Cafe??? (I think we are getting one next to KFC on Telegraph)

something that isn't a fast food place... for sure
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on February 18, 2019, 06:19:08 PM
Jack in the box somewhere please !!
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: nails on February 18, 2019, 06:41:42 PM

We used to have a Jack-in-the-Box back in the 70’s.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on February 18, 2019, 06:43:09 PM
We used to have a Jack-in-the-Box back in the 70’s.

They had the best greasy tacos.....  ever.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on February 18, 2019, 09:07:12 PM
Chick-fil-a?
Long John Silvers?
Tropical Smoothie Cafe??? (I think we are getting one next to KFC on Telegraph)

something that isn't a fast food place... for sure

You just got another Angelo's on Welcome Way.  be sure to pack your wallet though.  If it's like the Villa, it ain't gonna be cheap.  No fast food, just fast empty wallet.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on March 01, 2019, 07:55:47 AM
I don't think Angelos is quite open yet.   They are currently hiring though and I heard they had some kind of private preview night.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 01, 2019, 01:02:38 PM
Sure has taken long enough.  We go to the Villa anyway.  I's closer for us.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on March 06, 2019, 09:33:44 PM
Dolce Vita.   No loss to the Monroe fine dining scene as its gone seriously downhill the last several years but sucks to see another empty building.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 07, 2019, 09:10:02 AM
Not having been to town for a while, what is transpiring next to KFC?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on March 07, 2019, 09:21:27 AM
Mini strip mall
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on March 07, 2019, 10:17:43 AM
Tropical Smoothie Cafe and one other space that was for lease but haven't heard if it has been filled.   Probably a good spot for a cell phone, tobacco, or pizza place because there aren't any on that side of the street for a few hundred yards.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on March 07, 2019, 05:34:48 PM
Tropical Smoothie Cafe and one other space that was for lease but haven't heard if it has been filled.   Probably a good spot for a cell phone, tobacco, or pizza place because there aren't any on that side of the street for a few hundred yards.

Check Cashing?  Payday Loans?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 08, 2019, 09:51:54 AM
Check Cashing?  Payday Loans?

How about a massage parlor?  Considering the level of corruption in Moron County government, that would be a real barn burner.  Chinese gals giving those 'special massages'.....lol
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on March 08, 2019, 07:08:10 PM
Another one bites the dust.

https://www.monroenews.com/news/20190308/dolce-vita-closing-after-19-years (https://www.monroenews.com/news/20190308/dolce-vita-closing-after-19-years)

I was never terribly impressed, but I guess for Monroe it wasn't too bad.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 08, 2019, 10:25:38 PM
Don't the owners own the coal fired pizza joint I've never been to as well?

Coal fired pizza just don't sound good to me.....
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on March 09, 2019, 09:14:23 AM
Don't the owners own the coal fired pizza joint I've never been to as well?

Coal fired pizza just don't sound good to me.....

They do. 

I know pizza made in wood fired brick ovens can be pretty tasty.

Coal?  Yeah - never appealed to me.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 09, 2019, 10:24:55 PM
If the city of Moron opted in, they could open up some pot shops..... ;D
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on March 10, 2019, 08:57:08 AM
If the city of Moron opted in, they could open up some pot shops..... ;D

Don't they already have enough drug houses?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 10, 2019, 09:26:21 AM
Don't they already have enough drug houses?

Probably do but not getting any revenue from them....  All about revenue after all.  Gotta keep the highly paid advisors paid right.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on March 10, 2019, 11:52:03 AM
Probably do but not getting any revenue from them....  All about revenue after all.  Gotta keep the highly paid advisors paid right.

No, but they keep all the agencies busy administering shots.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on April 29, 2019, 06:17:06 PM
No more Ruby Tuesdays in Monroe.

Pretty sad when chain restaurants can't even hang on.

https://www.monroenews.com/news/20190429/ruby-tuesday-in-monroe-closed-unexpectedly (https://www.monroenews.com/news/20190429/ruby-tuesday-in-monroe-closed-unexpectedly)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on April 30, 2019, 03:20:04 PM
Ruby Tuesday isn't hanging on most places.   Really, most of the chains that have closed in Monroe in the last couple years were corporate failures, not problems specifically with their Monroe location.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on April 30, 2019, 05:01:59 PM
They are all building in Toledo in the Westgate area.  Central and Secor..
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on April 30, 2019, 06:13:12 PM
They are all building in Toledo in the Westgate area.  Central and Secor..

I see them building in the Detroit and Ann Arbor Suburbs like mad too.

I am not sure I agree that it is a corporate wide thing.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on April 30, 2019, 08:40:58 PM
Dolce wasn't corporate and they folded.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on May 01, 2019, 08:55:28 AM
I'm specifically talking about the chains that have folded in Monroe in the last few years.

Rue21--closed something like half their stores after their first bankruptcy.
RadioShack--closed all non-franchise stores after their second bankruptcy.
Carsons--closed all stores in bankruptcy.
Kmart/Sears--longest corporate failure in history, still continuing their slide into oblivion.
Payless--closing all stores in bankruptcy.
Vitamin World--closed most/all stores in bankruptcy (I think some were sold.)
Pat Catans--entire chain is closing with just a few converting to Michaels.
Rite Aid--sold much of the chain to Walgreens and closing many other stores.
Claires--near bankruptcy, closed many stores.
Aeropostale--bankrupcty, all stores closed, some reopened.
Justice--parent company closed around 650 stores last year.
Vanity--closed all stores in bankruptcy.
Raven Rock Work Wear--closed all stores

Target would be a notable exception.  Ostermans made sense since its the same company as Kay.

I'm not saying Monroe is a strong retail market, but what's happening here with retail is going on in a lot of places.   There's plenty of empty space in malls nationwide and restaurants come and even in the best markets.   Ruby Tuesday closed this week but American Diner opens today and rumor has it Angelo's is really, really close (so maybe only another year or two. :D)

Dolce Vita closed because the food and service was a crapshoot for a few years and the owner was a jerk about it.   He brought in an investor and they tried to fix it but it was too late.   I'm surprised the venture next door has survived because the situation is similar there.   Northside, Public House, and Amayas are all always busy
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 01, 2019, 09:43:37 AM
The cheapest item in any beanery is the food....lol

All one has to do is drive over to Adrian and look at their mall (or what is left of it).  Malls are out of touch with current demographics.  Strip malls are in, so are stand alone stores.

Dumdee is getting loaded with retail establishments.  I wonder how long it will be before only the 'strong' survive and the weak close their doors.

I did notice the 'Jerky Outlet' on 50 finally closed up.  Been there for quite a while and I don't see how they survived because the parking lot was always empty, unless, they did a good Internet business.

They are no more.

Never went in there.  I look for the Fanny Farmer (or whatever it's called) on the opposite side of M50 from Cabelas / Bass Pro to fold too.  Been in there.  Prices are stupid and you can but the exact same stuff at Walmart or Target oe a the grocery store for much less.  Sure it's a corporate store so maybe the parent company floats their boat.  If they gad to float on their own, they'd most likely sink.

There have been a buch of retail stores across the street from them (Waterstradt Drive) that have folded as well but I don't pay a lot of attention as I don't go to any.  I know the pie company that was there went tits up.  I heard their pies were so-so and expensive.  So-so and expensive don't mix well today.

Ultimately, that will be Cabelas downfall as well.  Expensive merchandise and duplication of retail stores makes the slice of revenue even smaller.  Instead of just Cabelas now, you have them, Bass Pro, Gander, Fin Feather and Fur and a few others and toy can only sell so much of the same stuff to the same people at inflated prices.

Only the strong survive and I don't see Cabelas as being strong at all.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: ytrewq on May 23, 2019, 07:55:26 AM
This is a move but more bad news for the mall--Kay Jewelers moved from the mall to their freestanding store north of Walmart yesterday.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 25, 2019, 07:34:20 PM
Is there anything left in there?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on May 25, 2019, 08:06:15 PM
A movie theater?
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 26, 2019, 10:19:00 AM
Maybe a hangout for kids whose parents are incapable of managing them constructively.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Monroe Native on August 23, 2019, 04:09:07 PM
Dum Dum Dum, Another one bites the dust.

Are there more empty spaces at the mall then stores now?

https://www.monroenews.com/news/20190823/mall-of-monroe-to-redevelop-after-losing-another-anchor-store (https://www.monroenews.com/news/20190823/mall-of-monroe-to-redevelop-after-losing-another-anchor-store)
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: blue2 on August 23, 2019, 08:52:54 PM
I thought the craft store did pretty well on the south side of Monroe. A lot of people from down here and Toledo shopped there. But would nit drive to the stupid mall
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 25, 2019, 09:25:38 PM
Did Nick and Nino's close after the coal stove got too hot?  I have to say that coal fired pizza sounds disgusting.
Title: Re: Businesses Closings
Post by: Maverick on August 26, 2019, 12:01:05 AM
I think they were closed even before the fire. New owner was planning to either establish 2 new restaurants or one larger one.
Restaurants don't survive in Monroe !!