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Post by: ducksoup on July 05, 2012, 05:46:47 PM
What is there to say about this...


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Christian Identity Ministries is holding a three-day conference for so-called "white Christians" who contend they have been treated unfairly, the Rev. Mel Lewis told local TV station WSFA. Lewis, the organizer and keynote speaker, says they have the right, like any other Americans, to worship how they wish.
 
Ku Klux Klan flags and white supremacy slogans surround the conference, which will conclude with a cross being set on fire Friday night. Organizers say it's not a cross-burning, but rather sacred Christian cross lighting.
 
"We are not breaking any laws. We're not violating any ordinances. We're bringing the Word of God to people who want it, obviously, or they wouldn't be here," Lewis told the TV station.
 
Lewis said of the conference-goers: "They are part of the chosen race."
 
The mayor of nearby Winfield said residents are upset, and the event does not represent their town in any way.
 
"Business people are upset. The city is upset. The city of Winfield does not condone this," Winfield Mayor Wayne Silas told another local TV station, WECT.
 
"It's surprising to see something like that in our town," said Tyler Cantrell. "I know it's been here in the past."
 
Organizers say their ministry is not a hate group and that although there is a strong KKK presence, the Klan did not sponsor the event.

 [url]http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/alabama-pastor-hold-whites-only-conference-162845760.html[/url] ([url]http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/alabama-pastor-hold-whites-only-conference-162845760.html[/url])
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Post by: Frenchfry on December 31, 2012, 06:13:47 AM
CNN host Piers Morgan invited Saddleback Church Pastor Rick Warren on his program to discuss gay marriage and the bible. Fresh off his feud with Second Amendment rights activists following his full-throated defense of stricter gun control laws in the wake of the Newtown massacre, Morgan inspired further outrage among the religious when he told the pastor he thought it was time for an "amendment to the bible." In Morgan's opinion, the bible, like the American Constitution, is "inherently flawed."*

Piers Morgan asked Pastor Rick Warren if it was time for an amendment to the Bible, as it is flawed and not applicable in many modern issues. Is that too far? Would "amending" a Bible really mean anything?

Time for a Bible Amendment? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwV1gEOOPcY#ws)
Title: Cross-Dressing Priest Arrested For Dealing Meth
Post by: Frenchfry on January 20, 2013, 01:57:49 PM
Cuss warning:

Cross-Dressing Priest Arrested For Dealing Meth

"A prominent and respected Connecticut priest has been indicted along with four other men in an alleged plot to sell crystal meth.

Monsignor Kevin Wallin and another suspect, Kenneth "Lyme" Devries, were arrested Jan. 3, after law enforcement discovered evidence of meth, drug paraphernalia and drug packaging materials at Wallin's home, reports the San Clemente Times."*

Monseigneur Kevin Wallin may win an award for hypocrisy. The priest, who owns a sex shop and was caught breaking his vow of celibacy, was caught for selling crystal meth, among even more activities priests aren't supposed to do.

Cross-Dressing Priest Arrested For Dealing Meth (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-8wpSCsgDI#ws)
Title: Re: No Comment...
Post by: Monroe Native on January 20, 2013, 03:14:19 PM
Piers Morgan is an idiot.

God warns us not to change his word.

Believe it, don't believe it - that is up to you.  Change it....  now you are spreading your lies to others.
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Post by: Frenchfry on February 23, 2013, 01:07:29 PM
Pastor Busted In Online Sting To Have Sex For Money With 16 Year Old Girl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSmktX3vTeA#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on May 26, 2013, 06:05:30 AM
"After a vicious tornado ripped through her Moore, Okla. home on Tuesday, Rebecca Vitsmun was lucky to be alive. After graciously handling an awkward moment while discussing the aftermath on national television, more good fortune is headed her way.

In a Tuesday interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer, Vitsmun was asked if she was thanking "the Lord" for deciding to escape home with her 19-month-old son. She hesitated for a moment, before telling Blitzer that she was actually an atheist.

"You are. All right. But you made the right call," Blitzer said, prompting Vitsmun to add: "We are here, and I don't blame anyone for thanking the Lord."

An Indiegogo community called Atheists Unite has responded resoundingly in support of Vitsmun's poise."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7nTZpEozbU

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Atheists Can Now Go To Heaven

The new Pope Francis has declared that Atheists can make it into Heaven.

Pope Francis rocked some religious and atheist minds today when he declared that everyone was redeemed through Jesus, including atheists.

During his homily at Wednesday Mass in Rome, Francis emphasized the importance of "doing good" as a principle that unites all humanity, and a "culture of encounter" to support peace.

Using scripture from the Gospel of Mark, Francis explained how upset Jesus' disciples were that someone outside their group was doing good, according to a report from Vatican Radio.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHzHLxE4mgU
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Post by: Reason on May 27, 2013, 06:48:16 PM
The Vatican changed it... Atheists still going to Hell.
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Post by: Frenchfry on May 31, 2013, 01:03:22 PM
Vatican: Oops, Atheists Are Going to Hell After All!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ETGDrALJNE

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'The revoltingly fake Christian of the week'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=711qWxsmq6g
Title: Re: No Comment...
Post by: Frenchfry on May 31, 2013, 02:58:13 PM
Priest Under Investigation For Buying Child Porn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU2omBB5jr0
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Post by: Frenchfry on June 30, 2013, 04:17:42 PM
Vatican Monsignor Arrested Smuggling $26 Million In Cash In Private Jet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwsoM5EJ2pY
Title: If you're a Christian American who discriminates, you suck at being Christian...
Post by: Frenchfry on August 17, 2013, 04:24:51 PM
If you're a Christian American who discriminates, you suck at being Christian...and American

If you're the kind of American Christian who gets off on putting down poor people as lazy, you're like a Pharisee telling Jesus that the Romans were the job creators. Fundamentalist Christians believe Jesus wants us to help the poor by killing any program that could help the poor. These people never complained about their tax dollars bailing out Wall Street crooks, massive subsidies to oil companies or an unconstitutional billion dollar a week invasion and occupation of Iraq.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFwVpJY0Koo
Title: Re: If you're a Christian American who discriminates, you suck at being Christian...
Post by: Monroe Native on August 17, 2013, 05:27:57 PM
These people never complained about their tax dollars bailing out Wall Street crooks, massive subsidies to oil companies

It seems to me that I was against bailing out Wall Street, the Car Companies, and the Crony Capitalism that was practiced with alternative energy, battery, solar panel, etc etc etc companies.

I wanted the market to correct itself and get stronger.  Obama - a Democrat - didn't let that happen.

Seems to me you are making a generalization with your assertion.

As for Iraq - it is too bad that Obama didn't finish the job.
Title: Re: If you're a Christian American who discriminates, you suck at being Christian...
Post by: Frenchfry on August 17, 2013, 05:56:27 PM
It seems to me that I was against bailing out Wall Street, the Car Companies, and the Crony Capitalism that was practiced with alternative energy, battery, solar panel, etc etc etc companies.

I wanted the market to correct itself and get stronger.  Obama - a Democrat - didn't let that happen.

Seems to me you are making a generalization with your assertion.

As for Iraq - it is too bad that Obama didn't finish the job.
Hmmm...considering the long list of lies you've been telling since you started "talking"...I'm sure "someone" will believe you're telling the truth on this one.  8*
Title: Re: If you're a Christian American who discriminates, you suck at being Christian...
Post by: Monroe Native on August 17, 2013, 06:25:37 PM
Hmmm...considering the long list of lies you've been telling since you started "talking"...I'm sure "someone" will believe you're telling the truth on this one.  8*

Wow.  Sounds like another unfounded accusation.

Did you think of it yourself - or did you see it on the Rachel Maddow Show?
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Post by: Frenchfry on September 09, 2013, 10:43:50 AM
Cuss warning:

Science Vs Religion: Which Makes You Moral?

"Simply being primed with science-related thoughts increased a) adherence to moral norms, b) real-life future altruistic intentions, and c) altruistic behavior towards an anonymous other. The conceptual association between science and morality appears strong.

Though this finding replicates across different measures and methods, there's one variable that might limit the generalizability of the effect. There is some evidence suggesting that attitudes towards science vary across political parties with conservatives having become decreasingly trustworthy of science over the past several decades."

Science Vs Religion: Which Makes You Moral? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjo7Eekv6Io#)
Title: Re: No Comment...
Post by: Monroe Native on September 09, 2013, 11:21:34 AM
Wow.  Liberals trust Science better than Conservatives?

Give me a break.
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Post by: Frenchfry on September 15, 2013, 02:30:05 PM
Are Atheists Smarter Than Religious People?

"Are religious people less intelligent than atheists? That's the provocative conclusion of a new review of 63 studies of intelligence and religion that span the past century. The meta-analysis showed that in 53 of the studies, conducted between 1928 to 2012, there was an inverse relation between religiosity -- having religious beliefs, or performing religious rituals -- and intelligence. That is, on average, non-believers scored higher than religious people on intelligence tests...".

Are Atheists Smarter Than Religious People? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDGFt2pSpJE#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on September 17, 2013, 10:52:08 AM
'In God We Trust' to be removed from US currency?

A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit demanding the "In God We Trust" phrase to be removed from US currency. According to the plaintiffs involved in the case, the saying is "discriminatory and a per se establishment of monotheism." The lead council in the case, Michael Newdow, explains how this isn't a separation between church and state.

'In God We Trust' to be removed from US currency? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcXx_xRt85k#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on September 28, 2013, 11:59:15 AM
Atheists Bullied For Not Believing In God

"Despite secularism and atheism being on the rise, some areligious students feel discriminated against—at times violently. Now teachers across the U.S. are creating Secular Safe Zones...". How is the Secular Student Alliance involved? Does not believing in God lead to bullying from Christians in the US?

Atheists Bullied For Not Believing In God (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXQKCuqaY_k#)
Title: Re: No Comment...
Post by: Frenchfry on November 07, 2013, 03:02:23 AM
Girl Kills Herself To See Her Daddy Again

"Girl, 12, hangs herself and leaves a note for her mother saying she wanted to see her dead father again because she 'missed him so much"

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uWMOZ0vaCY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uWMOZ0vaCY#)

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Post by: Frenchfry on November 24, 2013, 01:05:01 PM
Cuss warning:

Is The Bible Fiction?

"A Costco in Simi Valley found itself in a flap this week after a local pastor posted a photo on Twitter showing Bibles at the big-box store labeled as fiction. Caleb Kaltenbach, pastor of Discovery Church, came across the Bibles while shopping for a gift and tweeted the picture on Friday with the comment: "Costco has Bibles for sale under the genre of FICTION Hmmmm..." That didn't sit well with members of his congregation."

Is The Bible Fiction? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opigg4C1uv0#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on January 02, 2014, 09:36:05 AM
Do You Trust The Clergy? Most Don't

"Clergy used to rank near the top in polls asking Americans to rate the honesty and ethics of people in various professions. This year, for the first time since Gallup began asking the question in 1977, fewer than half of those polled said clergy have "high" or "very high" moral standards.

But opinions on clergy differed markedly by party, with Republicans viewing them far more favorably than Democrats.

Overall, 47 percent of respondents to the survey gave clergy "high" or "very high" ratings, a sharp drop in confidence from the 67 percent of Americans who viewed them this way in 1985."

www.youtube.com/watch?v=u35JxVlVduQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u35JxVlVduQ#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on January 02, 2014, 09:40:25 AM
Republicans' belief in evolution plummets, poll reveals

Fewer Republicans today than in 2009 believe in evolution, according to new analysis from the Pew Research Center.

A poll out Monday shows that less than half – 43 percent – of those who identify with the Republican Party say they believe humans have evolved over time, plunging from 54 percent four years ago. Forty-eight percent say they believe “humans and other living things have existed in their present form since the beginning of time,” up from 39 percent in 2009.

At 67 percent and 65 percent, respectively, the numbers of Democrats and independents who believe in evolution have remained more or less the same since 2009. They’re also in step with the population nationally: Six-in-10 Americans say they believe humans have evolved.

(http://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/2013/12/30/215fbef0-3c85-42b4-a6ce-cd8c9329d7ff/evolution_poll.jpg?hash=a97b64f92d290bfc73a49f4c93bfb34f)

The gaping partisan disparity remains, the analysis states, even when accounting for “differences in the racial and ethnic composition of Democrats and Republicans or differences in their levels of religious commitment.” But the dip from 2009 is a telling indicator of the growing influence in the GOP of the oft-yoked tea party-type ideologues and the “religious right.”

According to the survey, a majority of white evangelical Protestants and half of black Protestants reject evolution. Overwhelming majorities of white Catholics and white mainline Protestants say they do believe in evolution, but among those half say a “Supreme being” guided it, rather than natural processes.

It’s a subject whose nuances saw some play in the 2012 presidential election. While former candidate Gov. Rick Perry, R-Texas, brushed off evolution as “a theory” with “some holes in it,” former Gov. Jon Huntsman, R-Utah, on the left side of the GOP field famously posted on Twitter: “To be clear. I believe in evolution and trust scientists on global warming. Call me crazy.”

Mitt Romney, a devout Mormon and the Republican Party’s ultimate nominee in 2012, has publicly stated his support for evolution – as guided by God.

“I’m not exactly sure what is meant by intelligent design,” he told the New York Times during his 2008 presidential bid. “But I believe God is intelligent and I believe he designed the creation. And I believe he used the process of evolution to create the human body.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/republicans-belief-in-evolution-plummets-poll-reveals/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/republicans-belief-in-evolution-plummets-poll-reveals/)
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Post by: Frenchfry on January 02, 2014, 01:45:00 PM
Cuss warning

Billionaire Warns Pope Francis

"Langone told CNBC that one potential seven-figure donor is concerned about statements from the pope criticizing market economies as "exclusionary," urging the rich to give more to the poor and criticizing a "culture of prosperity" that leads some to become "incapable of feeling compassion for the poor."

www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJpopKXJa0w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJpopKXJa0w#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on January 02, 2014, 02:07:51 PM
Minnesota Archdiocese Names 34 Priests Accused Of Child Sexual Abuse

www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_wqifIu_5g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_wqifIu_5g#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on January 13, 2014, 02:54:22 AM
Kentucky pastor 'murdered husband and wife then attended their funerals and offered his sympathies to grieving family'

A pastor charged in a triple slaying at a Kentucky pawn shop had attended the funeral of two of the victims, offering condolences to relatives who say they're sickened by the arrest of the man who seemed to be a sympathetic mourner.

Kenneth Allen Keith, pastor of Main Street Baptist Church in Burnside, was arrested on Wednesday and charged with murder and robbery after the September 20 slayings in Danville.

Keith, 48, attended the funeral of Michael Hockensmith, 35, and Hockensmith's wife 38-year-old Angela.  Daniel P. Smith, 60, also was killed.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2453623/Kentucky-pastor-murdered-husband-wife-attended-funerals.html#ixzz2qGMnFnXf (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2453623/Kentucky-pastor-murdered-husband-wife-attended-funerals.html#ixzz2qGMnFnXf)
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Post by: Frenchfry on January 13, 2014, 02:56:59 AM
Arthur Schirmer, a former Pennsylvania pastor, was sentenced Monday to life in prison without parole in the fatal bludgeoning of his second wife in 2008.

Schirmer, 64, was sentenced in Monroe County Court nearly two months after a jury convicted him of first-degree murder in the death of Betty Schirmer. The conviction brought an automatic life sentence.

Schirmer is charged separately with killing his first wife, Jewel Schirmer, in 1999. He awaits trial in that case.

Prosecutors said he clubbed Betty Schirmer on the head with a crowbar, tehn loaded her into their car and staged a low-speed accident in an effort to conceal the crime. The former Methodist clergyman took the stand in his own defense and testified that he was driving her to the emergency room for treatment of jaw pain when he swerved to avoid a deer and hit a guard rail.

A jury deliberated about 90 minutes before returning its verdict.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/life-sentence-for-pa-pastor-arthur-schirmer-for-killing-second-wife/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/life-sentence-for-pa-pastor-arthur-schirmer-for-killing-second-wife/)
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Post by: Frenchfry on February 25, 2014, 02:11:38 AM
How Jesus Hides Molesters - The American Taliban Puts Victims Last

"Bob Jones University has fired an independent firm hired to investigate sex abuse reports just one month before the group planned to release its 13-month review findings.

The university had contracted with Lynchburg, Va.-based GRACE (Godly Response to Abuse in the Christian Environment) in November 2012.

"Over the last several months, we grew concerned about how GRACE was pursuing our objectives, and on Jan. 27, 2014, BJU terminated its contract with GRACE," the university said in a press release. "It is BJU's intention to resolve its differences with GRACE, and we are disappointed a resolution could not be reached before our differences were made public."

How Jesus Hides Molesters - The American Taliban Puts Victims Last (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9aHE4l3ikw#)
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Post by: ussoccer26 on March 04, 2014, 09:19:15 PM
Republicans' belief in evolution plummets, poll reveals

Fewer Republicans today than in 2009 believe in evolution, according to new analysis from the Pew Research Center.

A poll out Monday shows that less than half – 43 percent – of those who identify with the Republican Party say they believe humans have evolved over time, plunging from 54 percent four years ago. Forty-eight percent say they believe “humans and other living things have existed in their present form since the beginning of time,” up from 39 percent in 2009.

At 67 percent and 65 percent, respectively, the numbers of Democrats and independents who believe in evolution have remained more or less the same since 2009. They’re also in step with the population nationally: Six-in-10 Americans say they believe humans have evolved.

([url]http://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/2013/12/30/215fbef0-3c85-42b4-a6ce-cd8c9329d7ff/evolution_poll.jpg?hash=a97b64f92d290bfc73a49f4c93bfb34f[/url])

The gaping partisan disparity remains, the analysis states, even when accounting for “differences in the racial and ethnic composition of Democrats and Republicans or differences in their levels of religious commitment.” But the dip from 2009 is a telling indicator of the growing influence in the GOP of the oft-yoked tea party-type ideologues and the “religious right.”

According to the survey, a majority of white evangelical Protestants and half of black Protestants reject evolution. Overwhelming majorities of white Catholics and white mainline Protestants say they do believe in evolution, but among those half say a “Supreme being” guided it, rather than natural processes.

It’s a subject whose nuances saw some play in the 2012 presidential election. While former candidate Gov. Rick Perry, R-Texas, brushed off evolution as “a theory” with “some holes in it,” former Gov. Jon Huntsman, R-Utah, on the left side of the GOP field famously posted on Twitter: “To be clear. I believe in evolution and trust scientists on global warming. Call me crazy.”

Mitt Romney, a devout Mormon and the Republican Party’s ultimate nominee in 2012, has publicly stated his support for evolution – as guided by God.

“I’m not exactly sure what is meant by intelligent design,” he told the New York Times during his 2008 presidential bid. “But I believe God is intelligent and I believe he designed the creation. And I believe he used the process of evolution to create the human body.”
[url]http://www.cbsnews.com/news/republicans-belief-in-evolution-plummets-poll-reveals/[/url] ([url]http://www.cbsnews.com/news/republicans-belief-in-evolution-plummets-poll-reveals/[/url])


The problem I have with religion is not that our people believe in it, but that it has corrupted our peoples' ability to reason and take science into account. Why should someone that believes the Earth is 6000 years old be able to hold office? Do they feel that god will provide America with everything it needs, so why bother with planning for the future? If they can willfully turn a blind eye to overwhelming scientific evidence for things such as evolution, then how can they be trusted to use reasoning and good judgement to run a nation?
Title: Re: No Comment...
Post by: Monroe Native on March 05, 2014, 06:41:06 AM
The problem I have with religion is not that our people believe in it, but that it has corrupted our peoples' ability to reason and take science into account. Why should someone that believes the Earth is 6000 years old be able to hold office? Do they feel that god will provide America with everything it needs, so why bother with planning for the future? If they can willfully turn a blind eye to overwhelming scientific evidence for things such as evolution, then how can they be trusted to use reasoning and good judgement to run a nation?

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In God We Trust

 :-[
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Post by: ussoccer26 on March 05, 2014, 05:12:55 PM
:-[

 Maybe I should have worded things a little different. I didn't mean that religious people shouldn't hold office, because everyone has the right to believe what they will. I just worry that when particularly religious individuals are making our laws they might be biased heavily against the rights of other religions or lack there of.

 When I said, "Do they feel that god will provide America with everything it needs, so why bother with planning for the future?" I meant that they might, in the literal sense, wait for god to provide America with the things we need. I guess a good analogy would be to compare it to religious families that pray for extremely sick children rather than seeking medical help.
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Post by: Monroe Native on March 05, 2014, 06:45:57 PM
I think anyone who has read even a little bit of the Bible would realize that it doesn't advocate sitting around waiting for a miracle to feed and clothe you....  though it can happen in a pinch.
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Post by: ussoccer26 on March 05, 2014, 07:08:14 PM
Those families are not sitting around though. They are praying. This is the irrational thinking that I am talking about.
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Post by: Monroe Native on March 05, 2014, 07:13:01 PM
Those families are not sitting around though. They are praying. This is the irrational thinking that I am talking about.

I guess if you have no faith praying would seem irrational - and if you don't have faith trying to convince you otherwise can be futile.
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Post by: Monique on March 05, 2014, 07:22:03 PM
I guess if you have no faith praying would seem irrational - and if you don't have faith trying to convince you otherwise can be futile.
[or intellect, information, facts, science, proof, etcetera...]
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Post by: Monroe Native on March 05, 2014, 07:29:43 PM
[or intellect, information, facts, science, proof, etcetera...]

Of course - because if you have faith we all knows yous stoopid, write?

Give me a break Monique.

Faith is a gift.  You can accept it, or you can reject it.  Rejecting it is done to the peril of the individual.

Those who reject it often use "intellect" and "science" and "logic" and "intelligence" to justify how smart they are to not follow a superstitious old book of fairy tales.

Now go pat yourself on your back for being so smart and so superior. 

I for one will pray that one of these days the Holy Spirit will find a way into your hard heart and you will be saved.  I know it is possible.
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Post by: ussoccer26 on March 05, 2014, 07:39:25 PM
I guess if you have no faith praying would seem irrational - and if you don't have faith trying to convince you otherwise can be futile.

I don't think praying if you have a religious faith is irrational, but ignoring science to the point of your children dying because of your faith is irrational. Blind faith, which is what religion asks, warps how people see reality. It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
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Post by: Monroe Native on March 05, 2014, 07:49:11 PM
I don't think praying if you have a religious faith is irrational, but ignoring science to the point of your children dying because of your faith is irrational. Blind faith, which is what religion asks, warps how people see reality. It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.

Sure.  And 99.999999% of people of faith would agree with you.

Go to any hospital and you can meet many of them.

The hospital in Monroe was originally founded by Catholics.  Strange thing to do if you are just supposed to pray for healing?

I think you are taking an isolated case and trying to present it as mainstream, which it is not.
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Post by: ussoccer26 on March 05, 2014, 08:37:01 PM
Here is your isolated case. There were a lot more names, but it took too long to sift through the dead so here is a sampling. I'll get to your point about hospitals in a minute.


Lisa Sheridan, age 5
Kimberly Sartore, age 1
Clayton Scott Zimmern, age 9
Matthew Swan
Seth Ian Glaser
Natalie Rippberger
Shauntay Walker, age 4
Amy Hermanson, age 7
Ian Burdick, age 15
Ian Lundman, age 11
Robyn Twitchell, age two
Elizabeth Ashley King, age 12
Michael Schram, age 12
Ronald Rowan, age 11
Andrew Pinkham, age 3
Kris Ann Lewis, age 13
Debra Ann Kupsch, age 9
Justin Barnhart, age 2
Melinda Sue Friedenbeger, age 18 weeks
Clayton Nixon, age 8
Michael David Boehmer, age 4
Libby Cooke, age 4
Sarah Handy, born prematurely
Jason Lockhart, age 9
Desiree Camren, age 3
Angela Sweet, age 7
Travis Drake, age 14
Jordan Northrup, age four months


In early 1991, six children died in the Philadelphia area of measles. Five of the children's parents belonged to the Faith Tabernacle and had religious objections to vaccinations. (The sixth child's parents belonges to the First Century Gospel Church which also objects to medical care.)

Five children of the Winterbourne family of suburban Philadelphia died of pneumonia between 1971 and 1980 without receiving medical attention. Roger Winterbourne, the father, stated: "When you believe in something, you have to believe it all the way. If you only believe in it part way, it's not a true belief."


Again, there were many others, but it simply would take too long to post them all. The scary part is these cases are just from the United States. Just start thinking about all the other places where this probably happens, but goes unreported.
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Post by: Frenchfry on March 06, 2014, 12:36:28 AM
New crusaders? US military adopting religious doctrines

RT's Anastasia Churkina investigates the impact religious beliefs taken to an extreme have had on American soldiers both in the warfare they participate in abroad, and in interacting their peers at home.

New crusaders? US military adopting religious doctrines (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6PiZJ2qU7k#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on March 06, 2014, 12:38:47 AM
Scared Of America Becoming A Theocracy? Here's A Peek

"Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA) added another tile to the increasingly colorful mosaic of his political record yesterday, explaining that he will only consider voting for a bill if it fits "Judeo-Christian Biblical principles."

Broun, currently running in a crowded field for the Republican U.S. Senate nomination, also said legislation needed to be constitutional, but did not delve into the First Amendment's prohibition on Congress passing a law "respecting an establishment of religion."

Scared Of America Becoming A Theocracy? Here's A Peek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAxY87fFYv8#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on March 06, 2014, 12:40:00 AM
World's Largest Megachuch Founder Convicted, But He'll Be Just Fine

"David Yonggi Cho, founder of South Korea's Yoido Full Gospel Church, has been sentenced to three years in prison for embezzling $12 million in church funds, Christianity Today reported on Monday.

Allegations arose in November of last year when 30 church elders held a press conference accusing Cho and his family of stealing millions in church donations dating back to the 1990s. The elders enumerated multiple instances of Cho's dishonesty that involved him borrowing and never returning funds, acquiring enormous church donations without disclosing what they were being used toward and even taking an $18 million severance pay when he stepped down as head pastor in 2008.

One former church elder, Ha Sang-ok, was present at the press conference and urged Cho to come forward."

World's Largest Megachuch Founder Convicted, But He'll Be Just Fine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8208sgtIsZU#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on March 06, 2014, 12:41:21 AM
Christian Lawmakers Fall For Noah's Ark Scam And Then...

*It might have been a warning sign when he said he'd found Noah's Ark. Ponzi schemes are notoriously attractive at the onset, then look awfully stupid in the rear-view mirror. The latest, in Texas, involves conservative Christian lawmakers and a man who promised outsized profits on energy trading software, milking lawmakers with his alleged Christian bona fides. "I ran into him at a conservative event," state Rep. Bill Zedler told the Dallas Morning News. "What he had said was he was in the Mount Ararat region and they had come up with some stuff. He may have given me a DVD." In essence, they say they put their faith in a man who played at being godly and literally buttered his pitch in bible verse...*

Christian Lawmakers Fall For Noah's Ark Scam And Then... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyVT-9XNHZE#)
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Post by: Monroe Native on March 06, 2014, 07:03:36 AM
Here is your isolated case. There were a lot more names, but it took too long to sift through the dead so here is a sampling. I'll get to your point about hospitals in a minute.


Lisa Sheridan, age 5
Kimberly Sartore, age 1
Clayton Scott Zimmern, age 9
Matthew Swan
Seth Ian Glaser
Natalie Rippberger
Shauntay Walker, age 4
Amy Hermanson, age 7
Ian Burdick, age 15
Ian Lundman, age 11
Robyn Twitchell, age two
Elizabeth Ashley King, age 12
Michael Schram, age 12
Ronald Rowan, age 11
Andrew Pinkham, age 3
Kris Ann Lewis, age 13
Debra Ann Kupsch, age 9
Justin Barnhart, age 2
Melinda Sue Friedenbeger, age 18 weeks
Clayton Nixon, age 8
Michael David Boehmer, age 4
Libby Cooke, age 4
Sarah Handy, born prematurely
Jason Lockhart, age 9
Desiree Camren, age 3
Angela Sweet, age 7
Travis Drake, age 14
Jordan Northrup, age four months


In early 1991, six children died in the Philadelphia area of measles. Five of the children's parents belonged to the Faith Tabernacle and had religious objections to vaccinations. (The sixth child's parents belonges to the First Century Gospel Church which also objects to medical care.)

Five children of the Winterbourne family of suburban Philadelphia died of pneumonia between 1971 and 1980 without receiving medical attention. Roger Winterbourne, the father, stated: "When you believe in something, you have to believe it all the way. If you only believe in it part way, it's not a true belief."


Again, there were many others, but it simply would take too long to post them all. The scary part is these cases are just from the United States. Just start thinking about all the other places where this probably happens, but goes unreported.

Thanks for making my point for me.

Take all the cases you can find.  Divide that by the number of people rumored to believe in some faith - and you will find that it is only the fringe wackos that you are talking about.

Now - in the United States we have the Separation between Church and State - so you are supposed to be able to freely practice whatever religion you want how you see fit.  Now the last several administrations have been chip chip chipping away at that, and Obama has been the worst, but praying over a sick person - or for that matter just refusing medical treatment seems to be something that an individual can chose in this country.

Since I believe in personal freedom and liberty I don't personally want to infringe on someones rights to do themselves harm.

I do feel bad for their kids.  They drew a bad hand - not their fault - but I can't support those that would go after the parents for child endangerment because that leads down a slippery slope to the government dictating more and more of what we must do, and what we can't do.
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Post by: Frenchfry on March 15, 2014, 03:32:27 AM
Pastor To Women: Lose The Panties, God Can't Get In

"A local pastor has ordered all women who attend service at Lord's Propeller Redemption Church to refrain from wearing undergarments while attending so that they can more easily receive the spirit of Jesus Christ.

The Kenyan Daily Post is reporting that a pastor identified only as "Reverend Njohi" claimed bras and underwear are not godly. Additionally, the paper says Njohi wants women who attend service at the church to be "free," and that there would be consequences for those who do not comply.

According to the UK Metro, most women did, in fact, show up at the church, located in the eastern suburb of Dandora, the following Sunday without any undergarments on under their clothing."

Pastor To Women: Lose The Panties, God Can't Get In (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZAs6d4Jcf0#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on March 15, 2014, 03:33:38 AM
Prostitutes Cuffed, Forced Into Church, And Taxpayers Get Billed

"Rather than being taken to jail, sex workers apprehended on the streets of Phoenix, Arizona are being handcuffed and brought to a church, where they can decide if they would rather be incarcerated by the state or undergo diversion therapy.

The policy, known as Project ROSE, is a Phoenix program that, according to Vice News, has aimed to help more than 350 people since it began in 2011.

Police sweep the streets and browse the internet searching for prostitution listings. They may catch dozens of women during any given sting operation but, instead of hauling them into jail, the police handcuff them and bring them to the Arizona State School of Social Work."

Prostitutes Cuffed, Forced Into Church, And Taxpayers Get Billed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjFQeFTKYb8#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on March 28, 2014, 11:55:38 PM
8-Year-Old Girl Disappoints God, Told To Be More Feminine

The family of an eight-year-old girl in Lynchburg, Va. has withdrawn her from a Christian school after administrators told her she wasn't feminine enough.

Sunnie Kahle enjoys what are traditionally considered "boy hobbies" as well as "girl hobbies", reports CBS affiliate WDBJ. She collects coins, hunting knives and baseballs along with stuffed animals and colorful bracelets.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QYq_qV6y3A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QYq_qV6y3A#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on April 03, 2014, 01:35:58 AM
Christians Warn Of A Terrifying New Trend

"John Brown University, a private Christian college, is coming under fire for publishing an op-ed by a faculty member which warns students about yoga and claims it is influenced by "demonic Hindu gods."

The article, "Rethink Yoga," was published in the school's student-run paper, The Threefold Advocate. The author, Deborah Dana, is listed on the JBU website as a math specialist and a tutor coordinator, according to NWA."

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygthWq4lDDU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygthWq4lDDU#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on May 03, 2014, 03:16:58 PM
Former Michigan Pastor Sentenced In Rape Of Young Relatives
 A 77-year-old former pastor of a western Michigan church has been convicted in the rape of two young relatives and inappropriately touching a third over a span of years....
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/may/03/former-michigan-pastor-sentenced-rape-young-relati/?police-and-fire (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/may/03/former-michigan-pastor-sentenced-rape-young-relati/?police-and-fire)
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Post by: Frenchfry on July 05, 2014, 06:38:28 PM
Man Declared Insane & Locked Up For Rejecting Religion

"A Nigerian man has been sent to a mental institute in Kano state after he declared that he did not believe in God, according to a humanist charity.

Mubarak Bala was being held against his will at the hospital after his Muslim family took him there, it said.

The hospital said it was treating Mr Bala, 29, for a "challenging psychological condition", and would not keep him longer than necessary."

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACkbec7cMPQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACkbec7cMPQ#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on July 05, 2014, 06:59:57 PM
Supreme Court Clearing The Way For Religious Domination

The Supreme Court ruled that Hobby Lobby Stores can both have a religion and impose it on their employees. But that leads to a slippery slope, as even some of the basic aspects of many world religions are illegal today.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAtPI-cbOew (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAtPI-cbOew#)
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Post by: Monroe Native on July 09, 2014, 09:33:36 PM
What a nice wonderful Liberal mocking of Christianity you found there Skippy.

I am sure you will get your just rewards from your master.
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Post by: Frenchfry on July 11, 2014, 07:49:48 AM
Beating Up on People: Republican Christians Do Not Practice Jesus's Teachings

Beating Up on People: Republican Christians Do Not Practice Jesus's Teachings (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFTNzKsDtDw#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on August 15, 2014, 03:57:10 PM
Cuss warning:

Soliciting Sex With Animals Gets This Baptist Leader Arrested

"Jerald Hill, the CEO of the Windermere Baptist Conference Center in Missouri, was arrested earlier this week for attempting to solicit sex with a dog off Craigslist. (And yes, Hill knew it was a dog.)

The Columbia Tribune reports that the Boone County Sheriff’s Department Cyber Crimes Task Force flagged Hill, after they saw that he’d posted an ad on Craigslist looking to have sex with two different types of animals, one of them a dog.

In Chris Hansen style, they sent Hill an email arranging a meeting, and then arrested him when he showed up at a Columbia house. (Hill was later released after posting bond.) In a statement, the Conference Center said they were quickly looking to find a new CEO, adding that they were “concerned for the well-being” of Hill.”

Soliciting Sex With Animals Gets This Baptist Leader Arrested (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdp988VVBAE&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ#)
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Post by: SidecarFlip on August 15, 2014, 09:36:03 PM
Cuss warning:

Soliciting Sex With Animals Gets This Baptist Leader Arrested

"Jerald Hill, the CEO of the Windermere Baptist Conference Center in Missouri, was arrested earlier this week for attempting to solicit sex with a dog off Craigslist. (And yes, Hill knew it was a dog.)

The Columbia Tribune reports that the Boone County Sheriff’s Department Cyber Crimes Task Force flagged Hill, after they saw that he’d posted an ad on Craigslist looking to have sex with two different types of animals, one of them a dog.

In Chris Hansen style, they sent Hill an email arranging a meeting, and then arrested him when he showed up at a Columbia house. (Hill was later released after posting bond.) In a statement, the Conference Center said they were quickly looking to find a new CEO, adding that they were “concerned for the well-being” of Hill.”

Soliciting Sex With Animals Gets This Baptist Leader Arrested ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdp988VVBAE&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ#[/url])


You related to him?  There is a marked resemblence between you both.
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Post by: Frenchfry on August 17, 2014, 08:18:45 AM
Proof Religion Makes Kids Dumb

"A study published in the July issue of Cognitive Science determined that children who are not exposed to religious stories are better able to tell that characters in “fantastical stories” are fictional — whereas children raised in a religious environment even “approach unfamiliar, fantastical stories flexibly.”

In “Judgments About Fact and Fiction by Children From Religious and Nonreligious Backgrounds,” Kathleen Corriveau, Eva Chen, and Paul Harris demonstrate that children typically have a “sensitivity to the implausible or magical elements in a narrative,” and can determine whether the characters in the narrative are real or fictional by references to fantastical elements within the narrative, such as “invisible sails” or “a sword that protects you from danger every time.”

However, children raised in households in which religious narratives are frequently encountered do not treat those narratives with the same skepticism. "

Proof Religion Makes Kids Dumb (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DduS6p6UkHY&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ#)
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Post by: SidecarFlip on August 17, 2014, 12:29:10 PM
You related to him?  There is a marked resemblance between you both.

Carefully avoiding a reply?  Your uncle perhaps?  Maybe a close relative?  The resemblance is pretty close....
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Post by: Frenchfry on August 17, 2014, 02:02:50 PM
You related to him?  There is a marked resemblence between you both.
Carefully avoiding a reply?  Your uncle perhaps?  Maybe a close relative?  The resemblance is pretty close....
Not at all. It's just your asinine nonsense just isn't worthy of a response.
Obviously you have no idea what I look like...but then you've been wrong on every point about me thus far anyway.
Guess you're just mad that I declined your offer of a Dick Cheney type hunt...where an "accident" was sure to happen.
Sorry but you'll have to find another source of tubesteak for your next BBQ.
I'm curious why the area where you grew up has produced so many sick individuals.
So tell me...did you know Jeffrey Dahmer on a personal level?
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Post by: Monroe Native on August 19, 2014, 07:23:02 PM

Guess you're just mad that I declined your offer of a Dick Cheney type hunt...where an "accident" was sure to happen.

Flip - I think Fry just threatened to shoot you while hunting!

I think you should report this to the authorities!

 ;D ;)
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Post by: Maverick on August 19, 2014, 09:37:50 PM
I thought he said that he was going to be the recipient.
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Post by: Monroe Native on August 19, 2014, 09:45:20 PM
I thought he said that he was going to be the recipient.

Nah - Flip is safe with firearms.

That would NEVER happen with him.

Heck - he even went in front of the firing line with me behind the trigger.

Now if that isn't trust I don't know what is.

I think you can only read that as Fry has intent of causing Flip harm.....  and making it look like an accident.
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Post by: SidecarFlip on August 20, 2014, 01:12:01 PM
Stevie Wonder don't have the stones.  No worry.  His only stones reside above his eyebrows. ;D
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Post by: Frenchfry on August 23, 2014, 04:09:55 PM
Flip - I think Fry just threatened to shoot you while hunting!

I think you should report this to the authorities!

 ;D ;)
Only a moron would interpret my post that way.
Nah - Flip is safe with firearms.

That would NEVER happen with him.

Heck - he even went in front of the firing line with me behind the trigger.

Now if that isn't trust I don't know what is.

I think you can only read that as Fry has intent of causing Flip harm.....  and making it look like an accident.
Yeah but did YOU go in front of the firing line with HIM behind the trigger?
But then you may not be looked at as an appetizing addition to his stew.
Stevie Wonder don't have the stones.  No worry.  His only stones reside above his eyebrows. ;D
Since the report to admin isn't working...I emailed both Rob Gorczyca (Monroe news new media manager) and Jeff Brutsche (web developer) on August 20th...complaining about using real names...but it appears they've ignored me so it's time to fight fire with fire.

Yes Daryl...it's true you're a coward...couldn't fight your way out of a wet paper bag...so go ahead and clutch your guns in fear of your perceived enemies because your World is going to become much smaller.

If anyone wants to know anything at all about these racist righties...just contact bumfunkegypt@live.com

You righties are going to rue the day you prodded the fry.
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Post by: blue2 on August 23, 2014, 04:25:57 PM
Wow,,,one post all fits on one screen.
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Post by: Frenchfry on August 24, 2014, 02:01:43 AM
Anti-Abortion Groups Won’t Support The ‘Ice Bucket Challenge’

The “ice bucket challenge” has taken the internet by storm over the past several weeks, and participants have raised over $22 million dollars to combat ALS, a rare neurodegenerative condition that has no cure. But some anti-abortion groups are instructing their members to stop participating.

Abortion opponents are raising concerns over the fact that the ALS Association may use the flood of recent donations to help fund embryonic stem cell research, which is often part of the search for new therapies. Catholics and conservative evangelicals contend that using embryonic stem cells in research is comparable to abortion because the cells end up being destroyed.

This was a huge culture war issue during the Bush administration, but has largely faded into the background in recent years now that it doesn’t fall as clearly across party lines. Still, though, the GOP took an official stance against embryonic stem cells in the party’s 2012 platform, and scientists warned that a Mitt Romney win could end up rolling back important innovation in new treatments for diseases.

More here:
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/08/21/3474291/anti-abortion-ice-bucket/ (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/08/21/3474291/anti-abortion-ice-bucket/)

===

Ice Bucket Challenge Kills Babies According To Religious Nut

"The stunt has become an Internet sensation, with participants including movie stars, pop singers and politicians, as well as a wide range of others. It has also inspired some moments of accidental low comedy on the Web.

But according to Kevin McCullough (American Family Association), the fun and frivolity is overshadowed by his view that “this very challenge is contributing to the on going destruction of human life – intentionally.”

"The ALS association is actively now funding embryonic stem cell research and admitting that they likely will continue to do so in the future.

The funding of embryonic stem cell research means that children are created and at their earliest stages of life they are destroyed so that the stem cells (from usually the base of the brain) can be harvested to perform tests with.

Embryonic stem cell research has proven zero percent effective in combating diseases like ALS and other neurological degenerative diseases."

Ice Bucket Challenge Kills Babies According To Religious Nut (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYlf1YjMH34&index=5&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ#)
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Post by: SidecarFlip on August 24, 2014, 11:29:19 PM
Only a moron would interpret my post that way.Yeah but did YOU go in front of the firing line with HIM behind the trigger?
But then you may not be looked at as an appetizing addition to his stew.Since the report to admin isn't working...I emailed both Rob Gorczyca (Monroe news new media manager) and Jeff Brutsche (web developer) on August 20th...complaining about using real names...but it appears they've ignored me so it's time to fight fire with fire.

Yes Daryl...it's true you're a coward...couldn't fight your way out of a wet paper bag...so go ahead and clutch your guns in fear of your perceived enemies because your World is going to become much smaller.

If anyone wants to know anything at all about these racist righties...just contact bumfunkegypt@live.com

You righties are going to rue the day you prodded the fry.

None of the above is worth commenting on Steve......
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Post by: Frenchfry on August 25, 2014, 11:43:42 PM
None of the above is worth commenting on Steve......
Oh Daryl...you've just insulted the readers with your comment about not commenting.  8*

I suspect you didn't read the post again.

Can't wait to see what your hatred makes you blurt out next.  8* 8*
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Post by: Frenchfry on August 30, 2014, 10:21:01 AM
The Politics Of Every Major U.S. Religion, In One Chart

(http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/ideologies1-638x600.jpg)
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2014/08/29/3476349/does-your-church-dictate-your-politics/ (http://thinkprogress.org/election/2014/08/29/3476349/does-your-church-dictate-your-politics/)
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Post by: Frenchfry on August 30, 2014, 11:03:23 AM
Sacked: GOP Pastor(Troy Smith) Fumbles Badly on Constitutional Rights

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xpimduTuSQ&list=UUTCEwB_3dgYPDZv4HdKcC1w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xpimduTuSQ&list=UUTCEwB_3dgYPDZv4HdKcC1w#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on October 02, 2014, 12:07:28 PM
'Noah' Hate Reveals The Disturbing Hypocrisy Of Religion

"Noah director Darren Aronofsky on Tuesday responded to critics who have called his version of the biblical character an "environmental wacko."

Speaking to CNN's Christiane Amanpour, the director was asked if he believed that label to be accurate.

"It's in Genesis," he replied. "Noah is saving the animals; he's not out there saving innocent babies; he's saving the animals, he's saving creation."

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMdTfK66vjQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMdTfK66vjQ#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on October 02, 2014, 12:11:02 PM
Sorry Conservative Christians, You Don’t Get A Monopoly On Noah

If you read anything about director Darren Aronofsky’s newest epic film Noah in the past few days, it was probably about how much Christian biblical literalists hate it. Various conservative Christians such as Rick Santorum, Rick Warren, and Brian Mattson have blasted the film for diverting from the biblical narrative, calling it “pagan” and a “subversion of the biblical story.” As Ken Ham, the President of the Creation Museum who recently “debated” Bill Nye about the validity of creationism, put it: “Ultimately, there is barely a hint of biblical fidelity in this film. It is an unbiblical, pagan film from its start.”

Excusing the fact that the biblical account of Noah is itself inconsistent (Jewish and Christian scholars have long understood the 62-verse story to be an amalgamation of two different Jewish flood narratives), Ham and others aren’t technically wrong in saying that the film deviates from the text of the Bible — it does. Aronofsky, who is Jewish by heritage but a self-described atheist, has said that his Noah is “the least Biblical Biblical film ever made,” a relatively true statement if your basis for “biblical” is “strict adherence to the written text.” For instance, while the biblical text is pretty clear that all three of Noah’s boys had spouses that made it aboard the ark, a key plot point in Aronofsky’s retelling surrounds the frustration of Ham, Noah’s second son, who resents his father for prohibiting him from bringing a wife onto the ancient vessel.

But while it’s true that Aronofsky’s Noah diverges from scripture, these critiques are ultimately an arrogant slight against beautiful Jewish tradition at work in the film. Worse, they imply that conservative biblical literalism somehow has a monopoly on Noah, a position which effectively ignores the billions of other non-literal religious people who also take the story seriously — especially Jews.

Firstly, when Aronofsky says that his film is less “Biblical,” that doesn’t mean that his film is “subversive” or any less religious — it’s just religious in ways that are unfamiliar to most biblical literalists, but common practice for most Jews and non-literal Christians. When asked how he compiled the script, Aronofsky and co-writer Ari Handel, who is also Jewish, explained that they pulled heavily from Jewish Rabbinic midrash. For the uninitiated, midrash, literally “to search out,” is an ancient Jewish tradition in which Rabbis essentially add stories to the Biblical/Tanakhical narrative for educative effect. These stories aren’t meant to be given the same authority as scripture, but are instead designed to both resolve problems of interpretation as well as expose aspects of the holy narrative that would be otherwise difficult to grasp.

Unsurprisingly, a wealth of midrash exists around the Noah narrative, much of which can be seen in Aronofsky’s contemporary retelling. For example, the biblical account says little about how Noah actually built the ark or how other humans reacted to his project, but tomes of midrash explain in poetic detail how the prophet planted cedar trees to provide wood for construction and how he suffered persecution and mockery at the hands of other humans—two things that play a crucial part in Aronofsky’s Noah.

More importantly, even when Noah departs from both midrash and scripture, Aronofsky’s film is still itself a powerful form of contemporary midrash. In telling an extra-biblical tale of a tortured Noah, here admirably portrayed by a grizzled Russell Crowe, who is both hero (he ruthlessly protects his family from outsiders) and villain (he is still willing to kill his own if God wills it), Aronofsky raises valid religious questions about the Old Testament prophet that are rarely asked in Sunday school or Hebrew school. Through vivid and often harrowing portrayals of Noah single-mindedly following what he believes to be direct orders from on high, Aronofsky asks: what kind of faith does it take to close oneself off inside a massive floating vessel and listen, stoically, to an entire world die? Did Noah suffer from survivor’s guilt? If he didn’t, what does that say about faith, and what does all of this say about God? These questions are difficult but important, and it is only through the intentional deviation from the biblical narrative — a series of theological “what ifs?” played out in dramatic fashion onscreen — that we are confronted with them.

What’s more, in a time when evangelical Christian leaders such as Mark Driscoll and Bill Gothard are learning the hard way how righteous arrogance can get you into trouble (including deviating from source material), there are perhaps more than a few lessons to be gleaned from Aronofsky’s painfully human Noah. Indeed, midrash was encountered by a number of early and contemporary Christian theologians.

Granted, there are also valid critiques to be made of Aronofsky’s midrash. For example, his depiction of Noah as an unrelenting champion of vegetarianism/veganism, while based somewhat on scripture, is more than a little over-the-top. (Was it really necessary to show frenzied crowd of people ravenously pulling a live animal apart with their bare hands?) But if approached properly, Aronofsky’s Noah, like all good midrash, is both strikingly Jewish as well as a valuable tool for any person who takes the Noah narrative seriously—be they Jewish, Christian, Muslim, or even a secular American.
http://thinkprogress.org/culture/2014/04/02/3422173/conservative-christians-noah/ (http://thinkprogress.org/culture/2014/04/02/3422173/conservative-christians-noah/)
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Post by: Frenchfry on October 02, 2014, 12:12:31 PM
Jesus Gassed By Nazis In Stomach-Churning Ad [VIDEO]

"A video depicting Jesus being sent to the gas chambers in Auschwitz by Nazi soldiers who describe him as 'just another Jew' has been condemned as the "most tasteless Youtube video ever".

The controversial video, 'That Jew Died for You', was produced by Jews for Jesus, a group dedicated to converting people of a Jewish faith to Christianity, and timed to coincide with Passover, Holyweek and Holocaust Remembrance Day on 28 April.

The three-minute clip, filmed in black-and white, shows terrified Jews being selected for either labour camps or the gas chambers outside Auschwitz gates by sneering Nazi guards."

Jesus Gassed By Nazis In Stomach-Churning Ad [VIDEO] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS5y-pTAGag#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on October 02, 2014, 12:13:13 PM
Why Did Fundamentalist Christians Let Their 12-Year-Old Daughter Die?

"Defense attorneys for Travis and Wenona Rossiter, an Albany couple accused of manslaughter for the death of their 12-year-old daughter in February 2013, are seeking to exclude evidence of religious beliefs or practices during their trial.

Judge Daniel Murphy made no decision in the matter during Friday's Circuit Court hearing at the Linn County Courthouse, but said he would do so 'as soon as possible.'

"The Rossiters are members of the Church of the First Born, a fundamentalist sect that believes traditional medical treatment is sinful, and instead trust in God to heal them through faith, according to police and court documents."

Why Did Fundamentalist Christians Let Their 12-Year-Old Daughter Die? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud1VMaaLe9Y#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on October 02, 2014, 12:13:54 PM
Is The Bible Pro-Life?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=39NHzvDpJe4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39NHzvDpJe4#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on October 02, 2014, 12:15:09 PM
Cuss warning

Poor Elderly Woman Asks The Wrong TV Preacher For Financial Advice

"Televangelist Pat Robertson on Thursday told an 80-year-old viewer, who gave more than 10 percent to the church, that she should get a job or sell stuff on eBay if she couldn’t afford her medical bills.

“My husband and I are in our 80s and have been tithing for many years,” the viewer wrote Robertson in a letter. “We both love the Lord and give willingly and our tithe is over 10 percent.”

The woman said that she thanked God for her blessings, “but we never have an extra penny after our monthly bills are paid.”

www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_cgN9X9zcY&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_cgN9X9zcY&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on October 02, 2014, 12:17:19 PM
Pope Francis Calls For 'Legitimate Redistribution' Of Wealth To The Poor
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/09/pope-francis-redistribution-wealth-_n_5294629.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/09/pope-francis-redistribution-wealth-_n_5294629.html)

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Pope Francis: 'Marxist Ideology Is Wrong, But I Know Many Marxist Who Are Good People'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/14/pope-francis-marxist_n_4447229.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/14/pope-francis-marxist_n_4447229.html)

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I'm no Marxist, Pope Francis tells conservative critics
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/other/im-no-marxist-pope-francis-tells-conservative-critics-f2D11748599 (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/other/im-no-marxist-pope-francis-tells-conservative-critics-f2D11748599)
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Post by: Frenchfry on October 02, 2014, 12:18:11 PM
Who's More Moral, Religious or Non-Religious? STUDY

"So much for religious people being more righteous than non-believers.

Sure-to-be-controversial new research shows that religious and non-religious people are equally likely to misbehave. The only difference between the groups is that religious people show stronger emotional reactions to moral and immoral deeds.

“To our knowledge, it’s the first study that directly assesses how morality plays out in people’s everyday lived experience,” Dr. Linda Skitka, a psychologist at the University of Illinois at Chicago and the co-author of a paper describing the research, said in a written statement."

www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGlRcoT64MM&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGlRcoT64MM&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on October 10, 2014, 02:59:24 PM
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GodTV Founder Resigns Over Too Many Comings

“Rory Alec, the co-founder, with his wife Wendy, and CEO of GodTV has stepped down from his position citing a personal “moral failure” in his marriage.

According to Charisma News, Alec announced his resignation on the network’s Facebook page.

“After 20 years of service, I have had a moral failure this year. For this reason, I am stepping down, Alec wrote. “Please forgive me for the disappointment I’ve caused, but I know your eyes are on Jesus who is the author and finisher of your faith and not on me, an imperfect man. It is with a heavy heart that I confirm my season with GOD TV is over for now.”

www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_Bdu_Qf-2E&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ&index=12 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_Bdu_Qf-2E&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ&index=12#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on October 10, 2014, 03:01:32 PM
This Holy Book Is Full Of Appalling Violence

“...Unconsciously, perhaps, many Christians consider Islam to be a kind of dark shadow of their own faith, with the ugly words of the Koran standing in absolute contrast to the scriptures they themselves cherish. In the minds of ordinary Christians - and Jews - the Koran teaches savagery and warfare, while the Bible offers a message of love, forgiveness, and charity. For the prophet Micah, God's commands to his people are summarized in the words "act justly, and love mercy, and walk humbly with your God" (Micah 6:8 ). Christians recall the words of the dying Jesus: "Father, forgive them: they know not what they do."

But in terms of ordering violence and bloodshed, any simplistic claim about the superiority of the Bible to the Koran would be wildly wrong."

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI2OBylwl0k&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI2OBylwl0k&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on October 16, 2014, 11:07:19 AM
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Atheist Wins $2 Million After Being Forced To Attend Faith-Based Drug Rehab

"A California atheist has won a settlement of nearly $2 million after being sent to jail on a parole violation for objections he made about participating in a faith-based rehab program.

Barry A. Hazle Jr., 46, served time for a conviction of methamphetamine possession in 2007. As a condition of his parole, he was enrolled in a drug treatment program where participants were required to acknowledge a "higher power," according to the Sacramento Bee.

Hazle complained and asked for a different treatment program, but was told the only option in his area was the faith-based, Westcare 12-step program, according to the Record Searchlight.”

www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSVLQBm-kSg&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSVLQBm-kSg&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ#)

Wasn't that long ago when someone I know questioned the order of Monroe Judge...something about being forced to participate in a Harbor Light/Salvation Army program since they are religious organizations. The mere question angered the judge and he sentenced the guy immediately to jail, violating the Holmes Act and imposed a felony on his record. Perhaps this ruling means he could sue as well.
https://www.usc.salvationarmy.org/usc/www_usc_detroithl.nsf/0/D12F5D339E1E1F98862578B00069DA76/ (https://www.usc.salvationarmy.org/usc/www_usc_detroithl.nsf/0/D12F5D339E1E1F98862578B00069DA76/)$file/Monroe%20Harbor%20Light%20web%20brochure.pdf
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Post by: Frenchfry on October 16, 2014, 11:08:51 AM
Pastor’s Ebola-Gay Marriage Theory Is Nuts But The Bigger Picture Is Truly Scary

“A Baptist pastor is warning that God will escalate the Ebola crisis when North Carolina begins performing same-sex marriages.

During his Sunday sermon following a series of court actions that effectively struck down North Carolina’s constitutional ban on marriage equality, Berean Baptist Church Pastor Pastor Ron Baity suggested that homosexuality was a sign of the End Times.

“So the book of the Revelation is about End Times events and what happens when this world is destroyed by fire, when the stars and the universe and the sun and the moon, like untimely figs cast from a tree, are just completely done away with and annihilated,” he said, telling his congregation to focus on what the Bible said would happen before that."

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPdJZ9EpSs8&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ&index=6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPdJZ9EpSs8&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ&index=6#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on November 04, 2014, 12:58:39 AM
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Christians React… To Halloween!

“While we liberals are getting our panties all up in a bunch over racist Halloween costumes, the Christian Right is focusing on… the family… as usual… and the much more important issue that is the evil and sinful nature of Halloween. To spread the gospel on the perils of the holiday, I present these five eloquent quotes against Halloween. Consider yourself warned!

1. Druid sheep murder, serious stuff.

When Pat Robertson urged his viewers to abstain from Halloween on “The 700 Club,” he made a pretty good case:

Halloween is a festival for demonic spirits… The whole idea of trick-or-treating is the Druids would go to somebody’s house and ask for money and if they didn’t get money they’d kill one of their sheep, that was the sheep and it was serious stuff. All this business about goblins and jack-o’-lanterns all comes out of demonic rituals of the Druids and the people who lived in England at that particular time."

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vdvu0QS0R1c&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vdvu0QS0R1c&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on November 27, 2014, 03:57:20 AM
Churches Blatantly Break The Law

"A record number of rogue Christian pastors are endorsing candidates from the pulpit this election cycle, using Sunday sermons to defiantly flout tax rules.

Their message to the IRS: Sue me.

But the tax agency is doing anything but. Although the IRS was sued itself for not enforcing the law and admitted about 100 churches may be breaking the rules, the pastors and their critics alike say the agency is looking the other way. The agency refuses to say if it is acting.

At the same time, the number of pastors endorsing candidates in what they call Pulpit Freedom Sunday jumped from 33 people in 2008 to more than 1,600 this year, according to organizers, Alliance Defending Freedom. And this year, they’ve stepped up their drive, telling pastors to back candidates any Sunday up until the election, not just one Sunday as in past years."

www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1QJpx79tPs&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ&index=17 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1QJpx79tPs&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ&index=17#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on November 27, 2014, 03:58:41 AM
Would Jesus Love or Hate Republicans?

“The Jesus of history was the exact opposite of everything Fox News host Bill O’Reilly thinks, according to religious scholar Reza Aslan.

The professor made the remarks while speaking at the Los Angeles World Affairs Council in February. Video of the event was uploaded on Tuesday.

During the discussion about his book, Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth, an audience member asked Aslan if he had read O’Reilly’s book about Jesus, called Killing Jesus."

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pCIVgeNmfk&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pCIVgeNmfk&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on December 30, 2014, 01:30:33 AM
Beheadings Don’t Count If You’re Christian

"A "religious zealot” in Oklahoma nearly beheaded an acquaintance in a brutal slaying after watching Christian videos, police said.

Isaiah Marin was playing cards Wednesday afternoon with his brother and the victim, 19-year-old Jacob Crockett, at an apartment in Stillwater.

Police said the 21-year-old Marin was watching online videos “related to his Christian beliefs and the Book of Matthew” before he picked up a sword and began swinging it around."

www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlxAhLBHPI8&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlxAhLBHPI8&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on January 03, 2015, 12:36:05 AM
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Is Santa Satan?

“A Georgia pastor warned over the weekend that children who believe in Santa Claus could grow up to be atheists.

Many Christians in Harlem, Georgia said that they were outraged last week after the Born Again Independent Baptist Church changed its sign to read “Santa is Satan.”

In an interview on Sunday, Pastor Edward Carothers explained to WRDW that he posted the message because “Santa Claus is robbing Christ of his glory.”

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALufPl1trgE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALufPl1trgE#)
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Post by: The Fuzz on January 03, 2015, 07:17:35 AM
LOL, unreal!
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Post by: Frenchfry on January 05, 2015, 12:26:35 AM
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Bible-Thumping Senator-Elect Packs Just One Book For His New Job

"Oklahoma Senator-elect James Lankford says his “biblical worldview” will guide his actions in the upper chamber.

“Budget, for me, is still a huge area. The people have started to step back and say, ‘Well, our deficit is only $480 billion now so we are doing much better in deficit.’ We still have $480 billion. That’s a big deal,” the Republican congressman and Baptist minister told Family Research Council president Tony Perkins on Wednesday.

“I come from a biblical worldview in the way I address issues,” Lankford said. “I look at Nehemiah and how he handled things when he stepped into Jerusalem. It was that the people were in disgrace and the wall was broken down, but the two things that he focused in on was the constructive side of things and the debt. Half of the Book of Nehemiah is just getting the people out of debt, so they could actually take on the other things.”

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta4ru7FF_6o&index=3&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta4ru7FF_6o&index=3&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ#)
Title: Pastor Punches A Boy For Not Taking God Seriously Then Brags About It
Post by: Frenchfry on January 17, 2015, 02:16:27 PM
Pastor Punches A Boy For Not Taking God Seriously Then Brags About It

"In a newly discovered video, Pastor Eric Dammann admit to punching a child right in the chest because he didn’t take God seriously. And he considers that an ultimately good thing.

As he recounts the story, there was a 'real smart-aleck' at some youth group he was at, a 'bright kid' who was 'just trying to push my buttons and was “not taking the Lord serious.'”

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxmee94T560 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxmee94T560#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on January 17, 2015, 03:49:36 PM
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Put Two Men In A Cage And Make Them Fight Because God Intended It - Message From A Church Near You

“Can you love your neighbor as yourself, and at the same time knee him in the face as hard as you can?” American Christian Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) champion Scott “Bam Bam” Sullivan wonders in an interview with The Times (London).

Today over 700 evangelical US churches now integrate MMA (also known as cage-fighting) into their ministry programs. The phenomenon has even been featured in a recent documentary film, 2014’s Fight Church .”

www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaL95-xGxsw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaL95-xGxsw#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on January 17, 2015, 06:48:48 PM
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Building A Snowman In Saudi Arabia Just Got EVEN Harder - Thanks, Religion!

"A prominent Saudi Arabian cleric has whipped up controversy by issuing a religious edict forbidding the building of snowmen, describing them as anti-Islamic.

Asked on a religious website if it was permissible for fathers to build snowmen for their children after a snowstorm in the country’s north, Sheikh Mohammed Saleh al-Munajjid replied: “It is not permitted to make a statue out of snow, even by way of play and fun.”

Quoting from Muslim scholars, Munajjid argued that to build a snowman was to create an image of a human being, an action considered sinful under the kingdom’s strict interpretation of Sunni Islam."

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwPNU5KE1Sw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwPNU5KE1Sw#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on January 17, 2015, 06:52:48 PM
Still watching it but knowing who's about to comment...it's safe to assume it contains some cussing:

'The Boy Who Came Back From Heaven' Author Admits He Lied

"A bestselling Christian book that claims to detail a boy's trip to heaven and his return to Earth is being pulled from stores after one of its co-authors admitted he made the whole thing up.

The 2010 memoir, "The Boy Who Came Back From Heaven," was written by Alex Malarkey and his father, Kevin Malarkey, a Christian therapist in Ohio.

In 2004, when Alex was 6, the two were badly injured in an automobile accident. Alex ended up in a coma for two months, and the book claims to tell the story of his trips to heaven during that time.

Malarkey described a heaven with a "hole in outer heaven" that goes to hell. He detailed his conversations with Jesus Christ and meetings with the devil, who at one point blamed him for the accident."

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_5o0Mi6-pY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_5o0Mi6-pY#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on February 06, 2015, 09:58:54 PM
Anti-porn crusader arrested in Sutter County, charged with child sex

 A man who presents himself as an anti-pornography crusader and motivational speaker has been arrested on multiple charges involving sex with a child under 14.

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Pauling was investigated in 2010 for alleged inappropriate relationships with six other underage girls in Redding but the case was never prosecuted.

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According to Pauling's website, he was a producer of pornographic films for nine years beginning in 1997 before becoming a Christian and speaking out about porn industry and its effects on society and individuals.

During a presentation in Australia, Pauling claimed to have convinced at least 500 young women to participate in his productions.

More recently, Pauling spoke at St. Isadore Catholic Church in Yuba City in September.

Parish priest Matthew Blank said he has known Pauling for some time and has never doubted his sincerity. "What I know of him, he's a great guy," Blank said. "Let's just leave it at that."

In a 2008 ABC Nightline program, Pauling debated two porn stars and offered what now seems to be a sadly ironic statement.

"We're intelligent human beings," he said. "And when what we're doing is costing someone else and causing pain to someone else, we probably shouldn't be doing it."
http://www.news10.net/story/news/local/2014/12/03/anti-porn-crusader-arrested/19839329/ (http://www.news10.net/story/news/local/2014/12/03/anti-porn-crusader-arrested/19839329/)

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Anti-Porn Activist Arrested AGAIN For Sexual Abuse Of Minor

"A former porn producer turned Christian anti-porn activist has been arrested for the second time since December for sexual abuse of a minor, reports News10-ABC.

Donny Pauling, 41, is facing nine new charges related to a second victim, in addition to multiple charges filed against him on Dec. 1.

The new charges include: four counts of having sex with a minor; one count of having sex with a minor while employed as a public official; one count of oral copulation with a minor; one count of first-degree burglary; one count of meeting a minor with sexual intent; and one count of molesting a minor."

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fobvWt5XTQw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fobvWt5XTQw#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on February 17, 2015, 04:59:20 PM
Bible Story About Man Living In Whale Is True, Says Fox 'Historian'

"Minister and self-described “public advocate for the Christian faith” Dr. Tom Dickson assured Fox News host Ainsley Earhardt on Sunday that there was ample evidence for the story of Jonah living in the belly of a fish for three days and other Bible tales to convince atheists.

During a Fox & Friends segment titled “Keeping the Faith,” Earhardt pointed out that 19 percent of Americans were skeptics who did not believe that the Bible was sacred, up from 10 percent in 2011.

Dickson explained that many people were turned off by the Bible because it had been used as a “tool for oppression and slavery and violence.”

But he argued that those were “universals of human culture, you don’t need the Bible to have war, violence and slavery. They were there in Greece and Rome before the Bible.”"

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F5XxsCHny4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F5XxsCHny4#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on March 02, 2015, 04:17:09 AM
Fugitive American minister caught in Brazil

Victor Arden Barnard, an American pastor wanted for 59 counts of sexual assaults in Minnesota, was arrested by Brazilian authorities on Friday, the office of the governor for the State of Rio Grande do Norte said Saturday.

The 53-year-old suspect was wanted by the Pine County, Minnesota, Sheriff's Office for allegedly sexually abusing two young girls who were members of his church, the U.S Marshals Service said.

Barnard -- who was featured on CNN's "The Hunt With John Walsh" in 2014 and again earlier this week -- was last seen in the United States in Raymond, Washington, in 2014.

In April of that year, prosecutors in Pine County, Minnesota, issued a criminal complaint that accused him of 59 felony counts of criminal sexual conduct. The manhunt began after a two-year investigation into allegations from two women about Barnard's alleged conduct while he was preaching to a religious group in Finlayson, Minnesota.

Barnard was featured on the United States Marshal's 15 Most Wanted List along with a $25,000 reward for information leading to his arrest. He was also wanted for unlawful flight to avoid prosecution.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/28/us/victor-barnard-brazil-caught/ (http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/28/us/victor-barnard-brazil-caught/)
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Post by: Frenchfry on March 02, 2015, 04:18:27 AM
State Politicians Want To Declare Idaho Officially Christian

"Members of a county Republican Party in Idaho are to take up a measure that would declare the state a Christian one to bolster what the proposal calls the "Judeo-Christian bedrock of the founding of the United States."

The resolution to be voted on by the Kootenai County Republican Central Committee is non-binding, meaning it does not have the effect of laws or rules.

The proposal seeks that Idaho be "formally and specifically declared a Christian state," guided by a Judeo-Christian faith reflected in the U.S. Declaration of Independence where all authority and power is attributed to God, the resolution reads."

www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5UDdtzmeGE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5UDdtzmeGE#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on March 02, 2015, 04:21:11 AM
Idaho Republican backs faith-healer parents: ‘If I want to let my child be with God, why is that wrong?’

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An Idaho Republican said a proposed ban on faith-healing could violate the religious rights of her constituents – many of whom eschew medical care for themselves and their families.

“They have a clear understanding of what the role of government should be – (and it) isn’t how to tell me how to live my life,” said state Rep. Christy Perry (R-Nampa).

Legislation limiting a faith exemption for medical care in the state’s child neglect law was proposed after a string of preventable child deaths in Marsing among members of the Followers of Christ Church.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/idaho-republican-backs-faith-healer-parents-if-i-want-to-let-my-child-be-with-god-why-is-that-wrong/ (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/idaho-republican-backs-faith-healer-parents-if-i-want-to-let-my-child-be-with-god-why-is-that-wrong/)

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Faith-Healing Leads To Dead Kids

”An Idaho Republican said a proposed ban on faith-healing could violate the religious rights of her constituents – many of whom eschew medical care for themselves and their families.

“They have a clear understanding of what the role of government should be – (and it) isn’t how to tell me how to live my life,” said state Rep. Christy Perry (R-Nampa).”

www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMgp8i6IjUw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMgp8i6IjUw#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on March 11, 2015, 02:13:48 AM
If your hospital prioritizes religious doctrine over medical standards, your health could be at risk

Catholic health systems aren’t always held to the same medical standards as secular hospitals.

When you go to a hospital, you have a reasonable expectation that you’ll receive the care you need — whoever you are, whatever your circumstances. After all, there’s a reason there are medical protocols in hospitals. If you’re having a stroke, for example, there are guidelines that tell doctors how quickly they need to act for certain procedures to be effective.

If you find yourself in a Catholic hospital, however, your providers may not be following the same guidelines as those at a secular hospital. In some cases, they’re absolutely not playing by the same rules as non-religious hospitals.

That’s why the expanding reach of Catholic health systems is so troubling. Across the country, entire communities are finding themselves with no option for care other than a Catholic health system — a system that answers first not to medical standards, but to religious doctrine.

As I wrote in previous posts in this series (and this one in particular provides crucial context), Catholic health systems are governed by the Ethical and Religious Directives for Catholic Health Care Services (“the Directives”). The Directives are handed down by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, not licensed medical professionals.

In some instances, such as abortion, emergency contraception and sterilization, the Directives are clear. Those services will not be performed. The problem is, you may not know that until you’re at the hospital and need that care — possibly in an emergency, a scenario that’s becoming all too common for women having a miscarriage.

In other cases, the directives aren’t so clear. And that’s perhaps even more troubling.
There’s far too much opportunity for a Catholic provider to decide that the care you need — or the life you lead — might not be in keeping with Catholic doctrine. That opens the door for discrimination and refusal to treat patients based on an alarmingly broad range of principles.

When Catholic hospitals are allowed to make care decisions based on religious doctrine, it creates a double standard. One set of medical standards for secular hospitals, and another standard for hospitals affiliated with Catholic health systems.

Brooke Tucker, staff attorney for the ACLU of Michigan, explains.

Secular hospitals have to adhere to certain safety standards that religious hospitals are exempt from if they say it violates their conscience. How is it fair for secular hospitals to be held to a different standard in order for them to be licensed, in order for them to call themselves a hospital?
To fully appreciate the double standard, I urge you to read this powerful, personal story by Natasha Chart over at RH Reality Check. She had an ectopic pregnancy, which means that the embryo has implanted outside the uterus, usually in the Fallopian tubes. Ectopic pregnancies never result in the birth of a healthy baby but can put the mother’s life at risk if untreated.

Fortunately, Chart’s ectopic pregnancy was discovered at a secular health system, where she received the appropriate medical care. But from past experience, Chart knows what can happen at Catholic-affiliated hospitals. Her post clearly explains the difference it made to receive treatment for her ectopic pregnancy at a hospital where medical care — not religious doctrine — comes first.

… the doctor wasn’t required to tell me lies about the risks of removing that life-threatening pregnancy while I was also freaking out about whether or not I was going to wake up missing bits of me again. The ultrasound tech was allowed to be decent and compassionate toward us, instead of being forced to play us the sound of that doomed heartbeat and describe what few anatomical features she might have seen, even as my husband and I were both crying over what we’d suddenly realized was our loss. The only waiting period they had to be concerned about was the safe time they could operate based on when I’d recently eaten. …
I’m grateful that during this medical emergency, my doctors were allowed to follow only their best judgment about what care would keep me healthiest, according to the most current standards of their profession.

Ectopic pregnancy might seem like a situation where healthcare providers would recognize that there’s no chance of a live birth, yet a very good chance that the mother’s health or life is at risk. But, as reported in Mother Jones, many Catholic hospitals will not end an ectopic pregnancy until the mother’s life is “in mortal danger.” A woman’s Fallopian tubes can burst if the embryo isn’t removed in time, which can have serious, if not fatal, consequences.

But that’s not all. Mother Jones summarized some of the other ways Catholic hospitals restrict medical care.

In many cases, doctors are prohibited from prescribing birth control, and hospital pharmacies won’t sell it. Doctors may even be told not to counsel patients about it. Catholic hospitals have been reluctant to offer emergency contraception to rape victims, and when they do, they first require a pregnancy test to ensure the woman was not pregnant before the assault. The bishops’ guidelines forbid tubal ligations and vasectomies. They also extend to end-of-life care: Catholic hospitals may ignore patients’ requests to be removed from feeding tubes or life support, even if those wishes are expressed in living wills. And many states allow religious hospitals to discriminate against gays and lesbians, both as employees and as patients.
In Michigan, the Elliott-Larsen Civil Rights Act — which prohibits discrimination in the workplace, housing market and places of public accommodation — does not include protections for the LGBT community. That makes it perfectly legal for Catholic healthcare providers, or any provider for that matter, to discriminate against members of the LGBT community.

What’s more, the Directives are alarmingly vague, opening the door for providers to make decisions based on “Catholic principles,” which can be subject to interpretation. This lack of clarity could mean the wishes of patients and their families might be overruled by a healthcare provider or even an administrator with no education in medical care.

The Directives state that, “The free and informed health care decision of the person … is to be followed so long as it does not contradict Catholic principles.”

But who decides what those principles are, and when to apply them, especially in a medical emergency when every second can make a life-or-death difference?

Will patients’ requests to be kept off life support be honored, or will a Catholic provider decide that the action violates Catholic principles? Will members of the LGBT community be treated with the same standard of care as any other patient? Does a same-sex partner with a legal document authorizing him or her to make medical decisions have to fight the hospital’s administration to retain those rights?

These are questions no one can answer — in some cases, doctors have complained that they don’t always know how the religious Directives of hospitals where they practice will impact their care decisions.

In Michigan, there is no law to protect the LGBT community and, if the current Legislature has its way, laws enshrining discrimination based on “religious freedom” will make it even easier for Catholic-affiliated hospitals to refuse treatment on religious grounds — not just for the LGBT community but for anyone they object to on moral or religious grounds. (Watch for details on the related impact of legislation on medical care in an upcoming post.)

The clearly stated Directives that oppose abortion, birth control and sterilization are alarming enough. But the vague Directives that could open the floodgates for discrimination against patients and the refusal to provide appropriate care are even more troubling.

When a patient goes to a hospital for care, there should be no question that he or she will receive care based on medical standards. At Catholic-affiliated hospitals, there simply is no such guarantee.

This is the third post in an ongoing series. You can read the other installments HERE.
http://www.eclectablog.com/2015/03/does-your-hospital-adhere-to-appropriate-standards-of-medical-care.html (http://www.eclectablog.com/2015/03/does-your-hospital-adhere-to-appropriate-standards-of-medical-care.html)
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Post by: Frenchfry on March 11, 2015, 02:14:55 AM
Cuss warning:

Pat Robertson Says You're A Slave To Vegetables

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChVS00Uf5E0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChVS00Uf5E0#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on March 11, 2015, 02:16:09 AM
This Week in God

First up from the God Machine this week is a fascinating report about the changing nature of the American religious landscape. Throughout the country’s history, white Christians were the dominant group nationwide, but as the Religion News Service reported this week, that’s changed in ways without precedent (thanks to reader R.B. for the tip).
The notion of America as a mostly white, mostly Christian country is rapidly becoming a fact for the history books. […]
 
Last week, [the Public Religion Research Institute] released the American Values Atlas, an interactive online tool that compiles data about Americans’ opinions, identities, and values. One of the biggest takeaways of this years’ study was that, for the first time ever, America is not a majority Protestant nation.
More specifically, Public Religion Research Institute’s study found that in 19 states, white Christians are now in the minority – a result we’ve just never seen before.
 
The shift is partly due to a shrinking white population in in the Southwest, but note that a couple of the 19 states are actually in the Bible Belt: Georgia and Louisiana don’t have a white Christian majority anymore, either.
 
Highlighting the factors responsible for the shifts, Jack Jenkins also noted the “swift growth of the so-called ‘religiously unaffiliated,’ or Americans who do not ascribe to one particular religious group” – a trend that shrunk the white Christian majority in parts of the Northeast and Pacific Northwest.
 
Dan Cox, research director for Public Religion Research Institute, added, “The U.S. religious landscape is undergoing a dramatic transformation that is fundamentally reshaping American politics and culture.”
 
Also from the God Machine:
 
* In Idaho this week, the state Senate’s invited a local Hindu leader to deliver the daily invocation. As a result, three Republican state senators refused to attend the morning invocation, with one telling local media, “Hindu is a false faith with false gods.”
 
* A Michigan school district posted a job listing looking for a superintendent with “a strong Christian background.” The district quickly changed course after the ACLU reminded officials that discriminating on the basis of religion is not legal.
 
* New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio (D) recently announcement that local schools will now close for the Muslim holidays of Eid al-Adha and al-Fitr. This week, Fox News pundit Todd Starnes suggested the move is discriminatory against Christians.
 
* And my colleague Laura Conaway flagged one of the most unusual This Week in God stories in recent memory: “A New Jersey man cannot collect damages for burns he suffered while bowing his head in prayer over a sizzling steak fajita skillet at Applebee’s, a state appeals panel ruled today.” Yeah, go ahead and read that sentence again.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/week-god-3715 (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/week-god-3715)
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Post by: Frenchfry on March 13, 2015, 11:23:37 AM
Catholic Church Claims It Can Refuse To Pay Victims Of Sex Abuse Because Of Religious Freedom
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/03/11/3632147/catholic-archdiocese-claims-can-refuse-pay-victims-sex-abuse-religious-freedom/ (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/03/11/3632147/catholic-archdiocese-claims-can-refuse-pay-victims-sex-abuse-religious-freedom/)
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Post by: Frenchfry on March 15, 2015, 09:59:47 PM
This Week in God, 3.14.15

First up from the God Machine this week is an unexpected group of critics raising concerns about suspect tales from Fox News host Bill O’Reilly.
 
As regular readers know, activism in the political sphere from Roman Catholic nuns has become increasingly common in recent years, as evidenced by the Nuns on the Bus tour in 2012, criticizing Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-Wis.) far-right budget plan.
 
Soon after, Sister Simone Campbell and her group, NETWORK, a National Catholic Social Justice Lobby, invited Mitt Romney “to spend a day with Catholic Sisters who work every day to meet the needs of struggling families in their communities.” (He declined.)
 
Rachel noted on the show that summer, “I have one thing to say here personally, not as a TV show host here but just as a person who happens to be related to some nuns: don’t mess with nuns. It’s not a warning. It’s not advice. It’s not a threat. It’s fact that I have learned from personal experience. Ask anybody in my family, if you mess with nuns, you will lose every time. You will always regret messing with nuns.”
 
With this in mind, Fox’s Bill O’Reilly has faced increased scrutiny recently, claiming that he “saw nuns get shot in the back of the head” while he was in El Salvador in the early 1980s. When evidence made clear that was impossible, O’Reilly said he was referring to photographs he’d seen.
 
This week, some nuns seemed unimpressed by the Fox host’s comments, most notably nuns from the Maryknoll Sisters who issued a statement to Brian Stelter.
“Maryknoll Sisters were deeply saddened when our Sisters were killed in El Salvador, and shocked when we learned of Mr. O’Reilly’s statement inferring he witnessed their murder,” the statement said.
 
“This is, of course, untrue and we hope Mr. O’Reilly will take greater care in the public statements he makes in the future,” it added.
 
The Ursuline Sisters of Cleveland also offered a statement, calling for reporters covering the tragedy to do so with a spirit of “integrity and honesty.”
As best as I can tell, O’Reilly has not yet responded to the nuns’ criticisms. I reached out to Fox News for comment yesterday, but I haven’t heard back. I will update this piece if the network responds.
 
Also from the God Machine this week:
 
* In unexpected remarks, Pope Francis said this week he only expects to remain in his position for only “two or three more years.” He added, “I have a feeling my pontificate will be brief: four or five years, I don’t know. Two years have already gone by. It is a vague feeling I have that the Lord chose me for a short mission. I am always open to that possibility.”
 
* Speaking of the Roman Catholic Church, a federal judge ruled this week that a $55 million cemetery trust fund is not off-limits in the Archdiocese of Milwaukee’s bankruptcy case.
 
* Sarah Posner had a good piece this week noting widespread support for immigration reform among Evangelical Christians, who usually have some influence in Republican politics, but who are being completely ignored by GOP officials on this issue.
 
* A religious right group called Liberty Counsel is hosting an event this weekend called “The Awakening.” Among the notable Republican attendees are three likely Republican presidential candidates – Gov. Bobby Jindal, former Gov. Mike Huckabee, and Sen. Rick Santorum – along with Sen. Ted Cruz’s father, right-wing activist Rafael Cruz.
 
* And Franklin Graham this week decided to go after President Obama again, this time by insisting his mother was a secret Muslim. Stay classy, Franklin.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/week-god-31415 (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/week-god-31415)
Title: Re: No Comment...
Post by: Frenchfry on March 15, 2015, 10:01:06 PM
The ministry of a prominent Georgia megachurch pastor and evangelist who teaches that God wants to bless the faithful with earthly riches is seeking donations to buy a luxury jet valued at more than $65 million.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2015/mar/14/prosperity-gospel-preacher-seeks-67-million-for/ (http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2015/mar/14/prosperity-gospel-preacher-seeks-67-million-for/)
Title: Doctor Refuses To Care For Baby Of Lesbian Couple
Post by: Frenchfry on March 15, 2015, 11:20:19 PM
Doctor Refuses To Care For Baby Of Lesbian Couple

"A Detroit-area pediatrician has refused to treat a baby girl because the child’ s parents are a same-sex couple.

According to MyFoxDetroit.com, Krista and Jami Contreras got a shock when they brought their newborn daughter Bay Windsor Contreras to Dr. Vesna Roi for her first medical visit.

In spite of the fact that they had set up an appointment with Dr. Roi well in advance, they were met by a different physician, who informed them, “ I’ll be your doctor, I ’ll be seeing you today because Dr. Roi decided this morning that she prayed on it and she won’ t be able to care for Bay.”"

www.youtube.com/watch?v=FACFBuDXMxc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FACFBuDXMxc#)
Title: Re: No Comment...
Post by: Frenchfry on March 27, 2015, 02:03:34 AM
This Week in God, 3.21.15

First up from the God Machine this week is a legislative debate on gun policy in Arizona that, at least first, had absolutely nothing to do with religion, though the deliberation took an unexpected theological turn.
 
At issue in the Arizona state House this week were two bills related to firearm ownership: a proposal to make it easier for Arizonans to carry concealed weapons in public establishments and a bill related to transferring guns between states. One lawmaker, Republican Eddie Farnsworth said the ability to buy a gun is among Americans’ “God-given rights,” which set an interesting debate in motion.
Rep. Sally Ann Gonzales (D) rose to oppose one of the bills, and threw in a note of correction to her colleague’s statement about the divine.
 
“Twice on this floor I’ve heard members say that I have the God-given right to bear arms, and since I know that God didn’t write the Constitution, I just wanted to state that,” she said. “And I vote no.”
Soon, other state representatives joined the discussion, with one insisting the Constitution was written by “humans, great humans.”
 
Farnsworth, unimpressed, argued in response that “those who penned this” believed that Americans are “endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights.”
 
“This,” however, was in reference to the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution. The former says we are “endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights” – firearms are not mentioned in the document – while the latter makes no mention of God and establishes a government created by “we the people.”
 
Ultimately, it seems these details did not change the outcome of the debate. As the Phoenix New Times reported, the Republican-led chamber approved both gun measures.
 
Also from the God Machine this week:
 
* Another civil-rights breakthrough for a large American denomination: “The 1.75 million-member Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) has updated its constitution to recognize same-sex marriage, bringing the laws of the nation’s eighth-largest Protestant denomination in line with its already accepted practice. Individual churches will still be able to decline to perform such marriages if they believe them inappropriate, the church said Tuesday.”
 
* When a Catholic church in San Francisco set up a sprinkler system to ward off the homeless, it was a bad idea: “A sprinkler system at St. Mary’s Cathedral has been drenching people who seek shelter there for two years, but after that action became highly publicized the bishop backtracked saying the church’s aim was never to douse people.”
 
* And the New York Times had an interesting report this week on David Lane, a onetime Bible salesman, who’s slowly building an evangelical powerhouse that he hopes to turn into a “decisive power in the Republican Party.” Lane told the paper, “An army. That’s the goal.” The piece added, “A fast-talking and born-again veteran of conservative politics with experience in Washington, Texas and California, Mr. Lane, 60, travels the country trying to persuade evangelical clergy members to become politically active. His hope is that the politicized pastors will help mobilize congregations that have been disheartened by the repeated failure of socially conservative candidates, and by a party that has softened its opposition to same-sex marriage.”
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/week-god-32115 (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/week-god-32115)
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Post by: Frenchfry on March 29, 2015, 03:41:57 AM
My Planet Fitness post provokes a “rebuttal” from extremist right-wing “Christian” hypocrites

My post yesterday, “Anti-trans* woman uses Michigan’s Elliott-Larsen Civil Rights Act to sue Planet Fitness for terminating her membership” (which I cross-posted at Daily Kos) provoked a response from the so-called “Christians” at RenewAmerica.com today.

The piece is written by Ellis Washington, a founding board member of Salt and Light Global, and is titled “Salt and Light Global targeted for defending woman expelled from Planet Fitness“. In it, he accuses me and Daily Kos of being “anti-Christian”.

Quote
Do Christians have religious rights?
Last Tuesday a DailyKos blogger whose penname is “Eclectablog” wrote an incendiary rant titled, Anti-trans* woman uses Michigan civil rights act to sue Planet Fitness for cancelling her membership. In this anti-Christian diatribe Eclectablog cites to the original story…

Apparently this radical Progressive blogger is outraged that this woman wouldn’t just ignore her First Amendment rights (freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of association), shut her mouth and disappear and allow the LGBT community to hijack a public company like Planet Fitness as their own private, personal club. […]

DailyKos trying to slander Salt and Light Global

In the interest of full disclosure, I am the Director of Salt and Light Global (SLG) and personally know David Kallman and William Wagner. Although I’ve known Wagner much longer, I consider both David and William colleagues and friends whose professional and Christian character is unimpeachable. Therefore, Eclectablog’s hateful diatribe posted today on his blog only reveals his evil intent to launch a spear [sic] campaign against Ms. Cormier’s religious beliefs and civil rights violations and Mr. Kallman’s constitutional obligation as her attorney to protect her First Amendment rights to the fullest extent of the law.

Conclusion: DailyKos stop the anti-Christian hatred

In conclusion, don’t allow DailyKos and Eclectablog’s anti-Christian hate speech to distort what is really going on with the conflation of the LGBT agenda with bona fide racial discrimination and racism suffered by Blacks and other racial minorities – It’s not about our legal and religious rights organization, Salt and Light Global. It’s not about what Eclectablog calls “right-wing Christian zealots try[ing] to inflict their worldview on others.” It’s not about Yvette Cormier trying to make the LGBT community pariahs when they work out at Planet Fitness. It’s about the sanctity of the U.S. Constitution and the legal history that the First Amendment and the entire Bill of Rights are based on – absolute principles of right and wrong and First Principles which presume an integration of legality and morality. When those transcendent, biblical moral principles are violated as in Planet Fitness’s “no judgment zone” policies, then despite the good intentions of the CEO and other high officials at Planet Fitness, this store “policy” amounts to a constitutional violation and invidious religious discrimination of “sincerely-held religious beliefs” by citizens who are opposed to the LGBT agenda. Therefore, these store policies must be struck down as patent civil rights violations in addition to being abuses of our First Amendment right of freedom of religion and freedom of association. […]

DailyKos, Stop the anti-Christian hatred now!


He spends an enormous amount of his column explaining why trans* people are mentally ill, that being transgender is a “psychosis” and how there is no such thing as transgender. But mostly he rants about the loss of liberty and freedom Christian zealots like him and Yvette Cormier experience at the hands of people like me. We are, according to Washington, denying them their Constitutionally protected rights of freedom of speech and freedom of assembly.

These poor, put-upon, persecuted Christian bigots. Won’t anyone stand up to save them and protect their liberty and freedom to espouse vile hate and intolerance?!

The next thing you know, we’ll be passing laws preventing them from using the restroom or firing them because of who they are. I wonder what that feels like? Wanna know? Ask a trans* person.

For the record, I consider myself a Christian because I believe in the message of peace, love, and acceptance taught by Jesus Christ. I don’t attend church because of the hypocrisy (like that evidenced in Washington’s piece) I too often find there. I also consider myself a Taoist and, to some extent, a Buddhist. But I am not “anti-Christian”. I am, simply put, anti-hypocrite.
http://www.eclectablog.com/2015/03/my-planet-fitness-post-provokes-a-rebuttal-from-extremist-right-wing-christian-hypocrites.html (http://www.eclectablog.com/2015/03/my-planet-fitness-post-provokes-a-rebuttal-from-extremist-right-wing-christian-hypocrites.html)
Title: Re: No Comment...
Post by: Monroe Native on April 09, 2015, 07:05:39 AM
For the record, I consider myself a Christian because I believe in the message of peace, love, and acceptance taught by Jesus Christ. I don’t attend church because of the hypocrisy (like that evidenced in Washington’s piece) I too often find there. I also consider myself a Taoist and, to some extent, a Buddhist. But I am not “anti-Christian”. I am, simply put, anti-hypocrite.

Dickweed,

First of all - just because you believe Jesus Christs message of peace, love, and acceptance doesn't mean you should consider yourself a Christian.  When you go on further to say that you are a Taoist and a Buddhist - that should be a flashing red light that you probably are not a Christian.

You should consider yourself a Christian if you accept Jesus Christ as your personal Savior - and if you recognize that he is the way, the truth, and the light.  That only through his Grace, and his Forgiveness can you find eternal life - not through things that you did or earned, but through his gift to us. 

As for Christians being Hypocrites - of course we are.   We are all imperfect sinners.  What exactly do you expect out of a bunch of sinners?  Do you expect us to do everything perfectly?  I sure don't.  That is why I am over joyed that I have salvation through the Grace of Jesus Christ.  That takes a load off - if you know what I mean.

I suggest you pick up and read a Bible, and keep reading it, and study it, and you open your heart up to let the Holy Spirit work within you.

I would love to have you born again and welcome you into the Congregation of Believers - and by that I don't mean any group that meets in a building and has a Pastor around Monroe.  Nope - just groups of sinners that get together and try to do what Jesus instructed us to do - though we come up short each and everyday.
Title: Re: No Comment...
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 09, 2015, 11:06:40 AM
Never happen.
Title: Re: No Comment...
Post by: TLaitur on April 09, 2015, 11:36:39 AM
Some posters on this page have seemed to skim over Matthew 7:5 when reading their Bibles.
Title: Re: No Comment...
Post by: Monroe Native on April 10, 2015, 08:52:51 AM
Some posters on this page have seemed to skim over Matthew 7:5 when reading their Bibles.

I hope you aren't referring to me Tim.

I'll be the first one to admit that I am a poor miserable sinner each and everyday of my miserable existence on this planet.

What is worse is I know I am sinning most of the time - and I just can't help myself - so I am indeed one of those hypocrites.

Hence I am glad I have a Savior that is merciful.  I need it.

Maybe from your post you haven't read it?
Title: Re: No Comment...
Post by: Frenchfry on May 10, 2015, 03:02:39 PM
Dickweed,
 
As for Christians being Hypocrites - of course we are.   We are all imperfect sinners.  What exactly do you expect out of a bunch of sinners?  Do you expect us to do everything perfectly?  I sure don't.  That is why I am over joyed that I have salvation through the Grace of Jesus Christ. 
Yep...you've provided quite an example.  8*
Title: Re: No Comment...
Post by: Frenchfry on May 10, 2015, 09:19:29 PM
Fox News Priest: Obama, Like All Atheists, Can't Be Trusted

"Catholic priest and Fox News contributor Father Jonathan Morris argued over the weekend that atheists were not suitable candidates for president because it was “hard to trust” someone who did not believe that God would punish them.

“One thing is very certain, you can’t fake religion,” Morris said of the Republican presidential candidates on Sunday’s edition of Fox & Friends. “Politicians sometimes fall into that, I think. What matters most to us Americans — those who will be voting — is what these guys said before they were running for president, the way in which they lived before they started running for president.”

“I think they need to be very clear about the values they believe in, not making stuff up in order to get votes,” he continued."

www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAfPvmXS3ns (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAfPvmXS3ns#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on May 17, 2015, 02:28:24 PM
Christian Persecution? It's Everywhere. Can I Name One Example? No. [Hilarious Video]

"At the South Carolina Freedom Summit, Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN 7) advocated State Department intervention when asked what role the United States should play in protecting Christians around the world:

One of the things that we should be doing here is being very strong in our stance with religious freedom in our country... Our allies around the globe want to see us stay strong on our rights and not erode those rights... With the human rights violations and religious persecutions around the globe, we need a State Department that is going to step in and say, "This is not acceptable."

Blackburn thought that Christians are being persecuted in the U.S., but could not give any examples when asked by this reporter."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V_znygZHj4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V_znygZHj4)

===

Cuss warning:

Decline In Religion Frightens Bill O’Reilly

The country is a buzz with new survey data showing that the numbers of Christians have been dropping precipitously over the over the past seven or eight years. What is to blame for this change? Well, Bill O’Reilly has a theory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnrzDK717hY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnrzDK717hY)
Title: Teacher Punishes 7 Year Old For Not Believing In God
Post by: Frenchfry on August 21, 2015, 10:05:04 PM
Cuss warning:

Teacher Punishes 7 Year Old For Not Believing In God

“A lawsuit recently filed against a teacher at Forest Park Elementary School in Indiana alleged that a 7-year-old student was “banished” from sitting with other students at lunch after he revealed that he did not believe in God.

According to the lawsuit obtained by The Washington Post, second grade teacher Michelle Myer interrogated the student, who was identified with the initials A.B., about his religious beliefs after he told his classmates on the playground that he did not go to church because he did not believe in God.

As a result, the child was ordered to sit by himself during lunch for a three-day period.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkwFwRNzzBM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkwFwRNzzBM)
Title: Republicans Fire Woman For Not Going To Church
Post by: Frenchfry on August 21, 2015, 10:06:41 PM
Cuss warning:

Republicans Fire Woman For Not Going To Church

In Kansas, Republicans take their religion very seriously… to the point where they’d like to shred the constitution. They refuse to acknowledge separation of church and state. Now they’ve actually fired a woman, Courtney Canfield, for not going to church.

"An employee of the Kansas’ Republican Secretary of State Kris Kobach’s office says she was fired from her job for not belonging to or attending a church.

According to the Topeka Capital-Journal, Courtney Canfield of Topeka filed suit against the secretary of state’s office naming her supervisor Eric Rucker as defendant.

Canfield claims that before she was fired in November of 2013, Rucker said “repeatedly and emphatically” that she was being terminated because “She just doesn’t go to a church.””

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clGzREnlf-g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clGzREnlf-g)
Title: Re: Republicans Fire Woman For Not Going To Church
Post by: ducksoup on August 21, 2015, 10:28:32 PM
Cuss warning:

Republicans Fire Woman For Not Going To Church

In Kansas, Republicans take their religion very seriously… to the point where they’d like to shred the constitution. They refuse to acknowledge separation of church and state. Now they’ve actually fired a woman, Courtney Canfield, for not going to church.

"An employee of the Kansas’ Republican Secretary of State Kris Kobach’s office says she was fired from her job for not belonging to or attending a church.

According to the Topeka Capital-Journal, Courtney Canfield of Topeka filed suit against the secretary of state’s office naming her supervisor Eric Rucker as defendant.

Canfield claims that before she was fired in November of 2013, Rucker said “repeatedly and emphatically” that she was being terminated because “She just doesn’t go to a church.””

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clGzREnlf-g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clGzREnlf-g)

I read that and knew the right wing echo machine would never let the republicans here know.

I am not surprised with the revelation though.
Title: Re: Republicans Fire Woman For Not Going To Church
Post by: Monroe Native on August 23, 2015, 04:02:16 PM
I read that and knew the right wing echo machine would never let the republicans here know.

I am not surprised with the revelation though.

Echo machine?

You echoed Fry.

You ARE the Echo Machine.
Title: Re: Republicans Fire Woman For Not Going To Church
Post by: ducksoup on August 23, 2015, 04:05:54 PM
Echo machine?

You echoed Fry.

You ARE the Echo Machine.

Well lookie there

what a total surprise

24/7 says nothing on topic just so he can be personally insulting.

Funny how you self proclaimed "independents" do that in such a partisan way.  Makes one think you are in a 12 step program "republicans anonymous"
Title: Re: Republicans Fire Woman For Not Going To Church
Post by: Monroe Native on August 23, 2015, 04:09:08 PM
Well lookie there

what a total surprise

24/7 says nothing on topic just so he can be personally insulting.

Funny how you self proclaimed "independents" do that in such a partisan way.  Makes one think you are in a 12 step program "republicans anonymous"

Oh Right....

You are the Independent....

Even though you only rip on Republicans....  and ONLY defend Democrats.....

Right Duck.  Quack Quack Quack.
Title: Re: No Comment...
Post by: Frenchfry on September 13, 2015, 12:48:14 PM
This Week in God, 9.12.15

First up from the God Machine this week is a story out of Oklahoma we’ve been watching, involving state officials endorsing a Christian monument at the state Capitol – even after the state Supreme Court ruled that the government-sponsored Ten Commandments statue had to be moved to private property.
 
As regular readers may recall, it wasn’t a close call – the state Supreme Court’s justices ruled 7-2 that the six-foot-high, stone Christian display honoring the Ten Commandments, endorsed by elected officials in 2009, is plainly at odds with the state constitution that requires state government to be neutral on matters of religion. About a week ago, as the Tulsa World reported, Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt (R) filed “a new legal argument” in defense of government-sponsored religion.
Pruitt’s latest legal filing in Oklahoma County District Court argues that the June 30 ruling is hostile to religion and therefore violates the First Amendment’s Establishment Clause of the U.S. Constitution.
 
“In its decision to remove the monument, the Oklahoma Supreme Court held that no matter how historically significant or beneficial to the state, state law prohibits any item on state property or to be funded by the state if it is at all ‘religious in nature,’ ” Pruitt said.
 
He said the ruling prohibits manifestations of faith from the public square and creates hostility toward religion.
Think about that for a minute. If state government isn’t allowed to choose an official religious text, and endorse a monument to that faith – at the state Capitol – above all other religious traditions, then in the mind of state AG, the Oklahoma Constitution is unconstitutional.
 
To be neutral on matters of faith, Pruitt argued, is – practically by definition – to be hostile on matters of faith.
 
This bizarre, self-defeating argument not surprisingly failed miserably and was quickly rejected in court. KWTV in Oklahoma City reported yesterday that a lower-court judge has given the state until Oct. 12 to comply with the Oklahoma Supreme Court’s ruling.
 
It’s not altogether clear what elected officials intend to do. Gov. Mary Fallin (R) said in July, “Oklahoma is a state where we respect the rule of law, and we will not ignore the state courts or their decisions.” In the next sentence, she added the word, “However.”
 
Also from the God Machine this week:
 
* In Sterling Heights, Michigan, the local planning commission voted 9-0 this week to reject a proposed mosque. I will look forward to Republican presidential candidates rushing to the community to take a firm stand in support of religious liberty.
 
* Just in time for the papal visit to the United States, division at the Vatican: “[As the pope] upends church convention, Francis also is grappling with a conservative backlash to the liberal momentum building inside the church. In more than a dozen interviews, including with seven senior church officials, insiders say the change has left the hierarchy more polarized over the direction of the church than at any point since the great papal reformers of the 1960s.”
 
* This might actually make an interesting case: “A police department in a rural Texas Bible Belt community has placed large ‘In God We Trust’ decals on its patrol vehicles in response to recent violence against law enforcement officers, but a watchdog group says the decals amount to an illegal government endorsement of religion.”
 
* And in West Virginia, a local parent sued the Jefferson County Board of Education, the State Superintendent, the National Institutes of Health, and the U.S. Department of Education, “alleging that the his religious freedom rights had somehow been violated because his child learns about evolution in public school.” The suit, decided by a federal court this week, did not turn out well for the plaintiff.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/week-god-91215 (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/week-god-91215)
Title: Re: No Comment...
Post by: Frenchfry on September 20, 2015, 05:05:21 PM
This Week in God, 9.19.15

First up from the God Machine is a follow-up report on a story we discussed last month, when Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump was asked about his favorite Bible verse.
 
Trump’s clumsiness on matters of faith has been a point of concern for some voters before, but in an interview with Bloomberg Politics, the GOP candidate was willing to say the Bible is his favorite book, though he refused to say which parts of Scripture are important to him, saying it was “private.” (Asked whether he’s drawn more to the New or Old Testaments, Trump said, “Both.”)
 
This week, the Republican sat down with the TV preacher Pat Robertson’s Christian Broadcasting Network, where Trump changed his mind about his willingness to share his favorite parts of the Bible.
In an exclusive interview with The Brody File at his golf course in Southern California, GOP Presidential Candidate Donald Trump heaps praise on the Bible and refers to the Book of Proverbs when discussing envy.
 
“There’s so many things that you can learn from it (the Bible). Proverbs, the chapter ‘never bend to envy.’ I’ve had that thing all of my life where people are bending to envy.”
There was some question at first as to what in the world Trump was referring to. The Washington Post noted it “wasn’t clear which verse the Republican front-runner was talking about: A search of several of the most-used standard versions of the Bible did not turn up any verse or chapter that urges people not to ‘bend to envy.’”
 
CBN’s David Brody reported that a Trump campaign official later clarified that the candidate was referring to Proverbs 24:1-2, which says, “Be not thou envious against evil men, neither desire to be with them. For their heart studieth destruction, and their lips talk of mischief.”
 
Whether Trump connects with Scriptural references to envy because he’s been envious of others, or whether he’s concerned about others being envious of him, remains open to some interpretation.
 
Also from the God Machine this week:
 
* Another horrible chapter in the international scandal involving the Roman Catholic Church and sexual abuses: “The Catholic Church has allowed priests accused of sexually abusing children in the United States and Europe to relocate to poor parishes in South America, a yearlong GlobalPost investigation has found.”
 
* This story, out of Arizona, seems like a lawsuit waiting to happen: “The Coolidge City Council is in hot water over a vote to consider allowing only Christian organizations to offer prayers before public meetings” (thanks to my colleague Laura Conaway for the heads-up).
 
* A city councilman in Alabama says he’s pursuing ordinances to ban saggy pants because God told him to pursue the policy (thanks to reader R.B. for the heads-up).
 
* And HBO’s John Oliver has decided to close his month-old tax-exempt religious ministry, which had been called Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/week-god-91915?cid=eml_mra_20150919 (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/week-god-91915?cid=eml_mra_20150919)
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Post by: Frenchfry on October 02, 2015, 05:06:58 PM
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This Week in God, 9.26.15

First up from the God Machine this week a look at the religious right movement’s largest annual event, which kicked off yesterday in Washington, D.C. In fact, the Family Research Council’s Values Voter Summit is celebrating its 10th anniversary this year – which will reportedly be the largest summit to date.
 
So, what’d we learn from the right-wing gathering? For one thing, most of the Republicans running for president see the social conservative attendees as their natural base.
There is a lot of conservative star power shining out of the Omni Shoreham Hotel in Washington on Friday morning. Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky and Sarah Palin are just a few of the Republican Party’s luminaries headlining the Values Voter Summit, which is running through the weekend.
 
Mr. Cruz rallied the Republican base by reminding them of the anniversary of his filibuster, which he said “elevated the debate about Obamacare.” He also invoked former President Ronald Reagan, suggesting that a new wave of conservatism was nearing. “Morning is coming,” Cruz said. “Morning is coming.”
In all, eight White House hopefuls – Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Rick Santorum, Donald Trump, Mike Huckabee, Ben Carson, Bobby Jindal, and Lindsey Graham – will make their pitch to the far-right crowd. They’ll be joined by five House Republicans, another Senate Republican, another Republican governor, and a former Republican presidential candidate (Rick Perry).
 
It’s almost enough to give someone the impression that the lines between the GOP and the religious right movement have blurred to the point of non-existence.
 
Jeb Bush was invited, and was briefly listed as a featured guest, but he ultimately declined to attend.
 
As for yesterday’s opening day, we also learned that attendees don’t think highly of House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio); the crowd didn’t appreciate Trump referring to Rubio as a “clown”; Ted Cruz, who sees President Obama as “a communist,” stands ready to assassinate the Iranian Ayatollah; and Mike Huckabee believes the United States may cease to exist if gay Americans continue to have equal marriage rights.
 
Day Two gets underway this morning. I’ll report back on Monday on the results of the Values Voter Summit presidential straw poll.
 
Also from the God Machine this week:

* A horrible scene in Kentucky: “When members of the Islamic Center in Louisville, Ky., arrived for prayer service Wednesday night, they encountered hateful anti-Islamic graffiti on the walls. The spray-painted phrases included ‘this is for France’ and ‘Nazis speak Arabic.’ Center spokesman Muhammad Babar says he filed a police report, and the FBI is involved in the investigating the incident, which is being called a hate crime.”

* An Alabama police chief this week “used her own money to purchase Bible verse decals for the department’s patrol vehicles.” The Bible verse from Matthew 5:9 states: “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God” (thanks to my colleague Laura Conaway for the heads-up).
 
* As if Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach (R) hasn’t already faced enough controversy, he’s now being accused of using his office to promote Christianity and of coercing employees to attend religious services.
 
* The Dalai Lama this week “canceled all of his U.S. visits for October because of medical reasons.” He is, however, in Minnesota, receiving treatment at the Mayo Clinic.
 
* And TV preacher Pat Robertson’s Christian Broadcasting Network aired another interview with Donald Trump this week, asking the GOP candidate what God means to him. In a rather clumsy exchange, the New York developer referred to God as “the ultimate,” adding, “There’s nothing like God.”
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/week-god-92615 (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/week-god-92615)
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Post by: Frenchfry on October 02, 2015, 05:12:04 PM
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Post by: Frenchfry on January 25, 2016, 07:37:09 AM
Jesus Doesn’t Look Like This Anymore...

A team of forensic scientists has attempted to create an accurate likeness of Jesus Christ. They contend that the widely accepted look of the religious figure would look nothing like the actual person if he existed.

“The handsome caucasian male, with flowing locks of light or dark-brown hair, kind, sometimes blue eyes, and neat beard is the Jesus Christ most of us know from religious paintings and church windows.

But now a team of forensic scientists have come up with what is now believed to be the most accurate portrayal yet of the Christian Messiah.

And, perhaps not really that unsurprisingly, considering where he originated from, Jesus has a much darker appearance than we are used to.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfoqAqjkOfo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfoqAqjkOfo)
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Post by: Frenchfry on January 27, 2016, 12:07:20 PM
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Post by: Frenchfry on January 29, 2016, 06:18:52 PM
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Post by: blue2 on January 29, 2016, 06:32:19 PM
The msg says HELPING sick and poor.  It doesn't say supporting them for the rest of their lives.
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Post by: Monroe Native on January 30, 2016, 09:15:54 PM
The msg says HELPING sick and poor.  It doesn't say supporting them for the rest of their lives.

Amen!
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Post by: Frenchfry on February 12, 2016, 05:12:00 PM
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Post by: The Fuzz on February 13, 2016, 09:49:23 AM
LOL, good one!
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Post by: SidecarFlip on February 13, 2016, 12:31:32 PM
LOL, good one!

I never look at his crap unless there is a following comment that shows some worth.  I agree, thats a good one.
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Post by: Frenchfry on February 13, 2016, 07:33:59 PM
NY Man Dies After Being Beaten at Church to Confess 'Sins'
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ny-teen-dies-after-being-beaten-church-recant-sins-n444756 (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ny-teen-dies-after-being-beaten-church-recant-sins-n444756)

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Teen Beaten to Death After Trying to Leave Church in New York, Police Say; Parents Charged

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The fatal beating of Lucas Leonard in the sanctuary of Word of Life Christian Church came after the teenager had “expressed a desire to leave” the secretive upstate New York church, New Hartford Police Chief Michael Inserra said Friday.

That wish, according to Inserra, apparently prompted a counseling session on the spiritual state of Lucas and his younger brother, Christopher. During the sessions, the teens were beaten with a cord and Lucas Leonard suffered injuries so severe that emergency room doctors thought he had been shot, Inserra said.
http://ktla.com/2015/10/17/teen-son-fatally-beaten-after-trying-to-leave-church-in-new-york-police-say-parents-charged/ (http://ktla.com/2015/10/17/teen-son-fatally-beaten-after-trying-to-leave-church-in-new-york-police-say-parents-charged/)

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Son Beat To Death For His "Sins"

A couple in New York is facing manslaughter charges for allegedly beating there teenage son to death during a church ceremony. The couple got together with some other church members and beat the boy and his brother to rid them of their sins. Lucas, 17, did not survive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg5iIzB931E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg5iIzB931E)

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Teenager Dies in Fatal Church Beating | ABC News

www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX8fdLSebfc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX8fdLSebfc#)
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Post by: Frenchfry on February 13, 2016, 07:36:01 PM
Expletive warning:

Students Kicked Out Of Class For Not Praying

A public elementary school allegedly waged a shame campaign against students who didn't believe in God. According to a complaint filed on behalf of the family, who is identified as the "Does," teachers at the Swainsboro Primary School in Swainsboro, Georgia regularly led their classes in Christian prayer, a practice that violates the Constitutions First Amendment.

A lawsuit filed on behalf of a non-religious family details a series of actions by teachers and administrators that, even if they were not designed specifically to humiliate the family’s children, certainly should be expected to have that effect.

According to a complaint filed on behalf of the family, who is identified as the “Does,” teachers at the Swainsboro Primary School in Swainsboro, Georgia “regularly led their classes in Christian prayer,” a practice that violates the Constitution’s First Amendment. When the Doe parents complained that their children’s kindergarten and first grade teachers were leading the class in unconstitutional prayers, their teachers allegedly “told the Doe children to leave their classrooms and sit in the hallway while the rest of the class prayed.” One of the children, a first grader, said that the teacher “used her mean voice” when she told the child to leave the classroom. Meanwhile, Cel Thompson, a kindergarten teacher, allegedly “announced to the entire kindergarten class that Jamie [Doe] was not allowed to pray to God and then told Jamie to wait in the hallway while the rest of the class prayed.”

The Doe parents eventually pulled Jamie from the school after the kindergartener complained about “feeling uncomfortable at school.” Meanwhile, the older student, who is identified in the complaint as “Jesse Doe,” remained at the public school, where teachers allegedly began to pressure the first grader to participate in the daily prayers. Jesse’s science teacher, according to the complaint, told Jesse to “make a good decision” about the unconstitutional prayers. The gym teacher also allegedly encouraged the first grader to simply give up and start praying with the class.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l74gHG6jj08 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l74gHG6jj08)
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Post by: Tiny on March 28, 2016, 04:57:48 PM
George Carlin's Greatest Speech (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ERFBg2Uh1c#)