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Title: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on September 01, 2012, 03:08:25 PM
Kwame Kilpatrick prosecution features 10 witnesses with felony convictions

DETROIT — Ten witnesses set to testify against former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick and his co-defendants in a federal corruption case scheduled to begin in September are convicted felons.

Some were friends; others former aides.

Some did their time or remain imprisoned; others are awaiting sentencing, the harshness of which could be softened depending on the level of their cooperation with prosecutors.

But Kilpatrick has said, regardless of the company he has kept — friends, contractors,  employees and business acquaintances convicted of bribery, extortion and tax evasion — the indictment against him for corruption while in public office are "ridiculous" and "irresponsible."

"I have never stole a damn dime in my life from anybody," Kilpatrick said during a question-and-answer session with the Society of Black Journalists on Aug. 16. "Is there's corruption in government? Yes there is. But was I corrupt? Absolutely not..."
The names of the 10 witnesses for the prosecution with felony convictions, as reported by the Detroit Free Press, are: Derrick Miller, DeDan Milton, Kandia Milton, Emma Bell, James R. Rosendall Jr., Marc Andre Cunningham, Karl Kado, Lou Pavledes, Jon Rutherford and Wilbourne Kelley III.

While earning an annual salary ranging from $158,000 to $176,000 as the mayor of Detroit during his tenure from 2002 to 2008, Kilpatrick also used other means to enrich his bank account, federal prosecutors allege.
He evaded taxes and spent funds raised by the Kwame Kilpatrick Civic Fund, which operated under the guise of a nonprofit, on campaigns, rental cars, summer camps for his children, debugging equipment, birthday parties, gifts to relatives, travel and a crisis manager, a 19-count indictment against him claims.
Along with father Bernard Kilpatrick, friend and city contractor Bobby Ferguson and former Detroit water and sewer manager Victor Mercado, Kwame Kilpatrick faces further charges of operating an illegal criminal enterprise involving extortion, accepting bribes amd kickbacks, mail and wire fraud, contract rigging, obstructing justice and making malicious threats to extort money, the complaint says.

Jury selection for the federal case against Kwame Kilpatrick begins on Sept. 6.

http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2012/08/kwame_kilpatrick_prosecution_f.html (http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2012/08/kwame_kilpatrick_prosecution_f.html)
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on September 01, 2012, 03:10:13 PM
Would be interesting to be on this jury

Hopefully it doesn't drag out forever so He can work on that new prison weight loss program  ;D
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on September 01, 2012, 03:35:35 PM
Thanks for starting the thread.....this is not a lame subject, but few probably care.   ;)

Oh..WOW, to have been selected for this jury.  I doubt I could have made it through the screening process without shouting "Hang the dirty, rotten basterd!"

Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on September 01, 2012, 06:39:15 PM
I'm a little worried about this trial.  Obama's Justice Departments batting average is not very high lately.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on September 01, 2012, 06:52:12 PM
I'm a little worried about this trial.  Obama's Justice Departments batting average is not very high lately.

So am I! 

What an injustice this would be if he gets off taking into account the amount of solid evidence the Feds seem to have.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: blue2 on September 01, 2012, 07:03:43 PM
Kwame knows whats going on.  He spoke in Toledo recently and the Blade quoted him as saying he will not be going to jail for anything.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on September 01, 2012, 07:09:25 PM
The taxpayers are paying for multiple lawyers to defend him, even as he and his family enjoy a great lifestyle in Texas.  He will have to live to be 1000 to pay back Detroit for what he was court ordered, let alone what he actually took.

I would not be surprised if the fine residents of Detroit wouldn't re-elect him if they got the opportunity.

How many decades now has Detroit been a corrupt cesspool for now?
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 01, 2012, 10:19:29 PM
"I would not be surprised if the fine residents of Detroit wouldn't re-elect him if they got the opportunity"

No suprise at all.  In fact, I'd wager that if he could run, those idiots in Detroit would kick Dave Bing to the curb in an instant.

I've had the honor of meeting and working with Dave Bing a few years back.  He's a standup guy and deserves better than Detriot can offer.

I know what Kwame needs but I can't say on here........................
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on September 01, 2012, 10:41:19 PM
I know what Kwame needs but I can't say on here........................

Does it involve the now retired Club Gitmo Water Works kit?
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 03, 2012, 11:52:12 AM
With ethylene glycol instead of water.............
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on September 12, 2012, 06:56:15 PM
Race cards flying faster than a Euchre game.

Even selecting the jury has become a circus...guess it was to be expected.

http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/detroit/frustration-grows-for-attorneys-in--corruption-trial-jury-selection (http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/detroit/frustration-grows-for-attorneys-in--corruption-trial-jury-selection)

DETROIT (WXYZ) - Several attorneys in the Kilpatrick corruption trial were clearly frustrated as jury selection continued today.  Judge Nancy Edmunds took over the majority of the questioning – only allowing the lawyers to ask limited follow up questions.

“In federal court it’s very common for the judge to do most of the questioning in voir dire, during jury selection.  However in a case of this magnitude, it is not common. In a case of this magnitude typically the attorneys are allowed to ask questions.  But it may be that the judge is concerned that the questioning is going a little bit too far,” said Channel 7 Jury Selection Legal Analyst Anthony Chambers.

Former Detroit mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, his father Bernard Kilpatrick, his long time friend Bobby Ferguson, and ex-Detroit Water Department Director Victor Mercado are all charged with racketeering – accused of running a criminal enterprise out of city hall.

Forty jurors have been qualified so far, 10 of them are African American.  One potential juror is currently missing and has not reported to the court.

Questions about race and affirmative action continue to play a major role, as the judge tries to establish a pool of 66 jurors.  One man said he had strong feelings on Affirmative Action, because his daughter was once up for a scholarship that was awarded to an African American student instead.  Kilpatrick seemed visibly annoyed with some of the man’s answers – but the man stayed in the jury pool.

Ferguson defense lawyer Mike Rataj says the lawyers appreciate it when the jurors share their true feelings.

“One gentleman said my father was a racist, and we were kind of raised [like that], and I am not like that now… so these are honest answers and that’s what we want.   We want people to be honest, you can’t criticize them for being honest,” said Rataj.

One African American woman had said on her questionnaire that she felt Kilpatrick had done a lot for the city of Detroit, but she also thought that he quote  “probably messed it up for another young black person to become mayor again.”

At one point she told federal prosecutors that she could not come to a guilty verdict – but it appeared she was confused by the question, because she later changed her answer to say if the government met it’s burden of proof, she could decide on a guilty verdict.

Meanwhile, the juror’s personal opinions of the former mayor continue to be examined – especially questions about what impression they have of Kilpatrick after all of the media coverage.

“Once they’re sworn in as a juror, no matter what they’re opinion is, they’ve got to put that to the side, and they’ve got to decide the evidence.  It’s not really about their opinion, it’s about the evidence.  And does the evidence substantiate the allegations in this case or not, and if they don’t – he should be acquitted,” said Chambers.

Also today, an African-American jury candidate told the court that he believes blacks are unfairly targeted by law enforcement agencies, citing a friend of his who he said was frequently pulled-over by police for no apparent reason. The friend was ultimately jailed.

The potential juror insisted those feelings would not interfere with his view of the prosecution's case against Kilpatrick, saying he "believes in accountability" and would not hesitate to convict any of the defendants.

That possible juror was moved on to the next round of selection, as was a white juror who said he resented affirmative action programs that give minorities preferences over others.  He said his daughter was passed up for a scholarship that ultimately went to an African-American student, which he felt was unfair.

Defense attorneys quizzed the middle-aged man about his feelings on this issue, since they will be pointing out in court that defendant Bobby Ferguson benefited from his company's minority status to receive a benefit in the city's bidding process.  The potential juror said he could put aside his feelings about affirmative action when weighing the merits of this case.

During a break in questioning this morning, Kwame Kilpatrick was greeted by a supporter who came to wish him well in court.

After shaking his hand and thanking him for coming, Kilpatrick smiled.

"I need you in there," he said.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on September 12, 2012, 07:59:32 PM
Race cards flying faster than a Euchre game.

The Race card would have to work better then the truth.  What other defense can Kwame use, the "It's Crazy" defense?
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 12, 2012, 11:16:47 PM
The clown needs 20 years and a large supply of soap on a rope. ;D

.....and incidentially, his employer who remains quietly on the sidelines while paying for everything Kwame wants because of the favoritism he showed him (when he was mayor) sholuld be incarcerated as well and given another supply of soap on a rope.....
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on September 20, 2012, 06:13:09 PM
Let the disgust and entertainment begin early tomorrow.  Opening arguments start.

Can GO BLUE be changed for the trial duration as GO PROSECUTION!
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on September 20, 2012, 07:36:23 PM
Let the disgust and entertainment begin early tomorrow.  Opening arguments start.

Can GO BLUE be changed for the trial duration as GO PROSECUTION!

Go Prosecution!  Please no DEFENSE chants for the next several months!
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on September 21, 2012, 12:00:19 AM
Do they still have court TV?   I'd love to see Kwame's face when the case is presented.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: T-M-T on September 21, 2012, 09:48:47 AM
Channel 4 in Detroit has actually created an iPhone app just for updates on Kwame's trial.  :P

Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Baggins on September 21, 2012, 09:58:47 AM
I'll start making the popcorn... ;D
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 21, 2012, 10:46:25 PM
No updates needed.  He and his dad will be exonerated of all charges and he'll go on to get reelected as mayor of Detroit.

What could be more crystal clear.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on September 21, 2012, 10:51:05 PM
Wouldn't surprise me one bit!

Can't be comfortable to have the Feds nailin' left and right though.  I hope he is sweating, and not sleeping one bit.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: MM1 on September 21, 2012, 11:11:06 PM
Wouldn't surprise me one bit!

Can't be comfortable to have the Feds nailin' left and right though.  I hope he is sweating, and not sleeping one bit.

Ew!  Of all things to say.   


Take it from someone who has rode the elevator on many (too many) summer days with the man . . . . . hoping for him to sweat is NOT something you make jokes about or take lightly.

The man SWEATS!    To the point his shirt and vest pits (always wearing a vest) are soaking wet.  His 1/2 bottle of cologne he wears mixes with the sweat, and you close your eyes and hold your breath as you pray for sweet death until those elevator doors open and try not to look panicked as you exit the elevator and gasp for air. 

Blend all that with his arrogant attitude and smug "nothing can touch me" grin and I only want to know his verdict. 


But, please don't say "hope he sweats".  You really don't mean that.   :D
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on September 22, 2012, 07:06:08 AM
OK.......bleeding then.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: marilyn.monroe on September 22, 2012, 09:46:07 AM
Send him back to Texas.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Baggins on September 22, 2012, 09:58:09 AM
Send him back to Texas.


No, send him back to PRISON!
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: marilyn.monroe on September 22, 2012, 10:10:40 AM

No, send him back to PRISON!
He can't pay his bills from prison.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Baggins on September 22, 2012, 10:33:33 AM
He can't pay his bills from prison.


HA, you're fooling yourself if you think he'll "pay" anything close to the amount swindled...So, throw his a** back in prison...Detroit lost out on the money and most likely will not get it back.  At least get the satisfaction of punishing the man...!  Otherwise, you're saying what he did was fine as long as he pays the city back...I'm not fine with that way of thinking... :P
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: blue2 on September 22, 2012, 11:05:04 AM
I don't have a good feeling about this.  Politicians and sports celebrities are treated differently than the rest of us.   It will be impossible finding 12 people in Detroit willing to convict this guy.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Frenchfry on September 22, 2012, 01:48:48 PM
Meh....way too many other things on my plate to be concerned about that soap opera.

I do wonder why the vast majority of those interested are from the partisan right.

What's the driving force here? A hate of Detroit? Race of the defendant?

No matter. I doubt anyone would ever admit to it anyway...some even believe they don't have a racist bone in their bodies....but everybody is entitled to their opinion.

Of course the mere mention of race will bring howls from my detractors.....and to that I say, a little introspection of your own prejudices may help temper the comments from getting out of hand.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on September 22, 2012, 01:54:56 PM
I think mine is more geared to the fact he has been an embarrassment to the region IMO.  Not being from here I think perhaps I have a little more sense of pride in the State of Michigan and the City of Detroit.  I love both of them,,,,,,but this guys is more crooked and arrogant than any Southern politician that I have ever met.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 22, 2012, 04:08:27 PM
Meh....way too many other things on my plate to be concerned about that soap opera.

I do wonder why the vast majority of those interested are from the partisan right.

What's the driving force here? A hate of Detroit? Race of the defendant?

No matter. I doubt anyone would ever admit to it anyway...some even believe they don't have a racist bone in their bodies....but everybody is entitled to their opinion.

Of course the mere mention of race will bring howls from my detractors.....and to that I say, a little introspection of your own prejudices may help temper the comments from getting out of hand.

..........it is time consuming to do cut and paste..... ;D

I'm with Fuzz.  not being born and raised here, puts one in a different perspective.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: MM1 on September 22, 2012, 05:16:12 PM
I think mine is more geared to the fact he has been an embarrassment to the region IMO.

REGION?  WHAT REGION!?  YOU MEAN GHETTO!?!?!  ARE YOU A RACIST!?!
 Not being from here  FROM HERE? YOU MEAN YOU'RE BETTER THAN THEM?!?!?!?! ARE YOU A RACIST!?!   
I think perhaps I have a little more sense of pride in the State of Michigan and the City of Detroit.  I love both of them,,,,,,but this guys

THIS GUY?  YOU MEAN THIS BLACK GUY?!?!?!?!  ARE YOU A RACIST!?!   is more crooked and arrogant than any Southern politician     SOUTHERN?!?!?!     YOU MEAN BLACK?!?!?!?!  ARE YOU A RACIST!?!    that I have ever met.


YOU SURE SOUND LIKE A RAGING RIGHTIE RACIST FUZZ! ! ! !     8*   ;D     ;D 

Good Grief!  8*

Isn't this stupid race baiting getting old? It seems to be the only think some minds can think about.   It's SOOOOOOOOOOOO played.   8*



JMO of course.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on September 22, 2012, 05:25:12 PM
I'm used to getting words put in my mouth after years of marriage, but I actually prefer a couple of nice....well, opps, never mind.   ;D  :P
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: MM1 on September 22, 2012, 05:40:14 PM
 THERE'S A NAME FOR THAT TOO! ! !  ;D  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on September 24, 2012, 12:48:21 AM
Obama's DOJ prosecution of Kwame Kilpatrick for running a criminal enterprise could listed be one of the president's top accomplishments.
I'll support that one on the list if they "win"...

Starts Monday Morning...   curious how long the lines are to get in and if you can take in your own popcorn  ;D
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on September 24, 2012, 07:32:11 AM
Obama's DOJ prosecution of Kwame Kilpatrick for running a criminal enterprise could listed be one of the president's top accomplishments.

Really?  Isn't enforcing laws kind of a minimum cost of entry in that job?
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on September 24, 2012, 08:09:47 AM
Really?  Isn't enforcing laws kind of a minimum cost of entry in that job?
Nope - not anymore,
It's Holder/Obama's job to decide which ones to enforce and which to ignore...
Can you say executive order/ ignore immigration laws anyone?

Kwame thought he was above the law and a professional politician sometimes forgets things like laws, and how they actually apply...
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on September 24, 2012, 10:18:13 AM
Nope - not anymore,
It's Holder/Obama's job to decide which ones to enforce and which to ignore...
Can you say executive order/ ignore immigration laws anyone?

Kwame thought he was above the law and a professional politician sometimes forgets things like laws, and how they actually apply...

Sorry.  I just haven't lowered my expectations down that far for that office.

I still include upholding the laws and constitutions as a base requirement for the job - not as an accomplishment.

Selective enforcement isn't exactly new to the office either, but I do think this administration has been a little more blatant about announcing which laws they don't intend to enforce.

Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on September 24, 2012, 10:25:36 AM
My song for Kwame today:

Dang Me - Roger Miller (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1s7HHnnjU4&feature=player_detailpage#)

Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on September 24, 2012, 10:29:42 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on September 24, 2012, 01:48:54 PM
;D

I'm thinking Folsom Prison Blues for tomorrow.   ;D
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on September 24, 2012, 05:28:01 PM

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Internal Revenue Service agent Ron Sauer said the government traced $531,000 in cash transactions from 2001, when Kilpatrick was elected mayor, through 2008. The transactions included deposits, payments on his credit card and cashier's checks, and compared starkly to the few if any cash transactions made at banks before he became mayor.

On cross-examination, defense attorney James Thomas suggested the cash could have been gifts or simply transferred to banks after Kilpatrick had saved it under his bed or in shoes.

[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/24/kwame-kilpatrick-trial-day-2-detroit_n_1910022.html[/url] ([url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/24/kwame-kilpatrick-trial-day-2-detroit_n_1910022.html[/url])


Love the saved money in his shoes defense   ;D  ;D

He went to (http://arlingtonturkeytrot.org/files/the-shoe-band-logo.png)
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on September 24, 2012, 06:16:58 PM
Humm......his annual salary as mayor was $172K (Rich/Wealthy, should be paying higher taxes anyway). 

$531,000 over 7 years is about 76 grand per year.

I suppose the defense could say he was a good "safer" and put half his salary after taxes in shoe boxes, and made some high yielding traceable investments.   8*

I can hear Johnny Cash wailing the tune now......."I hear the train a comin', it's rollin' round the bend, and I ain't seen the sunshine since a I don't know when."

And Kwame.....my Johnny salute to you:

(http://www.gallery.savingcountrymusic.com/artists/johnnycash/billboardad.jpg)
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on September 24, 2012, 08:00:29 PM
I hope his cell and shower mates wear even bigger shoes.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on September 25, 2012, 09:07:35 AM
Federal Prisons aren't quite as tough as State ones...  but they get 4 years - serve 4 years  no time off for sitting there being good.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on September 25, 2012, 01:18:43 PM
Welcome to day 2 of your trial Kwame......hope this song is sticking in the back of your mind you worthless piece of $hit!

Johnny Cash-Folson Prison Blues (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWsuVuw5JO4#)
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on September 27, 2012, 05:38:39 PM
Today's Kwame dedication song is by The Clash - I Fought the Law and the Law Won

Buy your butt plug you POS.

http://www.freep.com/article/20120927/NEWS0102/120927066/focus-on-carlita-kilpatrick-during-heated-day-of-testimony?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE (http://www.freep.com/article/20120927/NEWS0102/120927066/focus-on-carlita-kilpatrick-during-heated-day-of-testimony?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE)

Carlita Kilpatrick was the focus of the public corruption trial today as jurors heard heated testimony about the former first lady getting $37,500 in taxpayer money for a project she performed little to no work for, irking state officials who thought the money was going to the poor.

The jury also heard testimony about ex-mayor Kwame Kilpatrick funneling grant money to his codefendant and longtime friend Bobby Ferguson, who allegedly used the public funds to refurbish his office. Kilpatrick was a state representative at the time.

Things got testy in court today between the defense and prosecution over the testimony of two government witnesses, whose detailed testimony had jurors taking numerous notes.

Jurors were especially busy writing when nonprofit executive Donna Williams testified that she was troubled about Carlita Kilpatrick getting hired in 2000 -- at the behest of her husband -- to run a conflict resolution program for $75,000 through her company called U.N.I.T.E. The program’s goal was to help reduce violence.

Williams, who oversaw a local nonprofit, said she hired Carlita Kilpatrick after getting a call from Kilpatrick's pastor Edgar Vann saying Kilpatrick wanted her to hire his wife for $75,000. Williams was to pay Carlita Kilpatrick by dipping into a $300,000 grant that was given to her nonprofit, the Vanguard Community Development Corporation, which was overseen by Vann's church.

The grant, which Kilpatrick helped secure as a state legislator, was to help bring arts and culture to a Detroit neighborhood on the city's north side. Williams said she was concerned that the grant was being used to help pay Kilpatrick's wife.

"I didn't like the circumstances of the hire, but I did like Carlita," Williams testified.

According to Williams' testimony, Carlita Kilpatrick received half of the money requested up front --$37,500 -- but she didn't provide the work that she had promised to do. She attended about a dozen meetings and created a brochure, Williams testified, but nothing else.

The defense tried to suggest that Carlita Kilpatrick offered to work for free.

Williams said that never happened.

"Her work was never for free," Williams testified, adding that Carlita Kilpatrick also stopped working on the project altogether at one point. "She never offered to come back and work until she knew that we had more money."

Williams testified that state officials eventually learned about Carlita Kilpatrick's involvement, and yanked the grant money from her nonprofit. She ended up getting an angry phone call from Kilpatrick about the matter, she said.

"He said I had messed up. I was not supposed to include the U.N.I.T.E. invoices with the other invoices ... I think he was angry with me," she testified.

Williams testified that she ended up convincing the state to reinstate the grant, although her nonprofit was prohibited from giving any more money to Carlita Kilpatrick.

Jurors also heard from Mary Lannoye, the former state budget director who oversaw the grant that ultimately funded Carlita Kilpatrick's U.N.I.T.E. project.

Lannoye testified that red flags went up in the governor's office when it was discovered that the arts and culture grant that was supposed to help improve troubled communities wound up benefiting Kilpatrick's wife.

"It gives the appearance of impropriety when the money is going directly to a legislator's wife," Lannoye testified, noting she would not have authorized the grant if she knew that it would make its way to Carlita Kilpatrick.

Lannoye also told jurors that she met Kilpatrick about the issue, but that he was nonchalant about it.

"Basically, he said he didn't do anything wrong," she testified. "I know I was upset. I was angry at him ... These grants were meant to help a local community and they were not meant to go directly to a legislator."

Kilpatrick's attorney James Thomas pressed Lannoye to explain why red flags didn't go up when other politicians' relatives received grants. For example, he cited one instance in which ex-Gov. John Engler's wife ran a charity that received a state grant, but no one complained. He also referenced a time when a former legislator helped approve a grant that went to help the State Fair, which was run by his brother.

Lannoye did not have explanations for the State Fair matter, but said that Engler's wife didn't receive a salary for her work on the charity, and that she did it for free.

Lannoye also conceded, at Thomas' urging, that such funding matters may be unethical -- but not illegal.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: blue2 on September 27, 2012, 06:06:51 PM
And just think, there are hundreds of guys like this snake in the country ripping taxpayers off.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: excelsior on September 27, 2012, 06:07:41 PM
This video may need to be updated after the trial.  It was produced while kwame was still in office.   Trip down memory lane.

Animated-Party At The Manoogian-Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0Hx36d9k-A&feature=plcp#)
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on September 27, 2012, 06:12:21 PM
I had forgotten about that....funny stuff. 

I suppose the stripper with the black eye was supposed to be Tamara Green.....after that skank wife of his hit her with a bat.  The incident that Mike Cox said didn't happen.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on September 27, 2012, 07:17:48 PM
I had forgotten about that....funny stuff. 

I suppose the stripper with the black eye was supposed to be Tamara Green.....after that skank wife of his hit her with a bat.  The incident that Mike Cox said didn't happen.
There's the twist we've all been waiting for...

Kwame will go state's evidence and get a plea deal with no time served for turning in his wife.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on September 27, 2012, 07:20:17 PM
LOL....yea, I just wait every day for the ridiculous to happen.  I just hope it is not when the jury reads their verdict.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Will Sweat on September 28, 2012, 06:49:25 AM
There's the twist we've all been waiting for...

Kwame will go state's evidence and get a plea deal with no time served for turning in his wife.


Man . . . can you imagine . . . she stood by him with the Christine Beatty stuff coming out, stayed with the home and kids while he was in the pokey and then he has a "come to Jesus" moment and throws her under the bus . . . . wow . . . that would be a serious "lifetime movie" twist.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on September 28, 2012, 08:00:05 AM
I can just imagine him getting on a roll once the center of attention and saying......"Ya wanna know what else that skank did, she beat a stripperwhore with a baseball bat at the mansion just because she was lap dancin' for me and Mike Cox!"
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on September 28, 2012, 06:22:35 PM
I think I should have started this thread under the Entertainment section.

Let me get this straight......today the Defense went on the attack for the State not going back after Carlita "The Bat Swinging Skank" and Bobby "The Thug" Ferguson when they suspected inappropriate use of funds. 

So.......that makes it OK?  Give me a GD break!  Yes, the State should have...no doubt.

State official scrutinized over grant money in Kilpatrick public corruption testimony

http://www.freep.com/article/20120928/NEWS0102/120928052/Defense-lawyers-Why-didn-t-state-seek-money-back-from-Carlita-Kilpatrick-?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE (http://www.freep.com/article/20120928/NEWS0102/120928052/Defense-lawyers-Why-didn-t-state-seek-money-back-from-Carlita-Kilpatrick-?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE)



Jurors in Kwame Kilpatrick's public corruption trial today heard testimony that put state officials in the hot seat for never asking Carlita Kilpatrick or Bobby Ferguson to give back the tens of thousands of dollars in grant money they allegedly pocketed when it was supposed to help kids and seniors.

Defense lawyers sought to shift attention away from their clients, and instead laid blame with state officials by pointing out that the state never asked for any of the grant money Carlita Kilpatrick and Ferguson got -- allegedly with Kwame Kilpatrick's help -- to be returned.

According to witness testimony today, Carlita Kilpatrick's company U.N.I.T.E. received $100,000 that was taken out of a $250,000 arts and culture grant; the rest of the money went toward refurbishing Ferguson's office and buying a house.
The state never asked for the money back.

"Is it safe to say that if you thought there was some kind of wrongdoing going on, you would have sought the money?" Ferguson's lawyer Susan Van Dusen asked witness Lisa Shoemaker, the state's budget analyst. "As a reasonable state official, you wouldn't just walk away like you did here if you had serous concerns" about wrongful conduct.

Shoemaker said the state didn't ask for the money back because it felt there was little chance of actually getting the funds returned, and they wanted to put the matter behind them. She also pointed out that the state, when it learned of Carlita Kilpatrick's involvement with the grant, did yank its funds from the nonprofit that funneled grant money to Carlita Kilpatrick.

The nonprofit that received the grant was Detroit Three Dimensional Community Development Corp., also referred to as Detroit 3D.

"We had things that were obviously a concern to us," Shoemaker said. "We had things that were not documented correctly."

During Shoemaker's testimony, jurors saw checks and invoices involving grant money that was spent on things like air ducts, doors and interior design for Ferguson, who is accused of using grant money to refurbish his office. Jurors, for example, saw one check for $37,000 written to Detroit Interiors, another for nearly $4,700 that was used to pay for a security system.

Shoemaker testified that red flags went up in her office because state officials weren't clear on what the above expenses were covering. To make sure the grant was being used properly, she said, the state asked for invoices and checks and vendor contracts. But too often, she said, Detroit 3D provided invoices with no checks or checks with no invoices.

Van Dusen, in questioning Shoemaker, said that all of the refurbishing work was documented. She also said that the nonprofit used the money properly, and that the refurbishing was for a training center that helped train and motivate people to get back to work. That, she said, fell within the scope of the grant's purpose.

"This could just be a misunderstanding," Van Dusen said of the state's confusion over the invoices.

Shoemaker, though, testified that the state was not convinced the grant was being used properly. She said the state questioned the invoices for the refurbishing work, as well as money that was spent on buying a house that was supposed to be used to house senior citizens.

Shoemaker said the grant was supposed to provide services, not buy a house.

Shoemaker was the 12th witness to testify in the week-old public corruption trial, in which Kilpatrick, his father Bernard Kilpatrick, Ferguson and ex-city water boss Victor Mercado are charged with running a criminal enterprise through the mayor's office to enrich themselves.

Shoemaker's testimony supported charges in the indictment, in which Kilpatrick and Ferguson are charged with misusing $800,000 in state grant money that was supposed to help bring arts and culture to struggling Detroit neighborhoods.

Both men, along with the other defendants, are also charged with rigging water contracts and shaking down city contractors to steer work toward Ferguson, who secured $120 million in city contracts while his friend was mayor.

All men deny the charges.

Trial resumes Monday.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: MM1 on September 28, 2012, 06:31:40 PM
I know it's possible that Kwame might walk. . . . . . but I don't think it's gonna be the case.

I think he's going away for a while, in fact I think all of them will.   And a bonus would be if Carlita ends up in a cell across the street from him . . . . for a very, very long time. 

One can hope anyway. . . . .

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Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on September 28, 2012, 06:46:03 PM
Oh, and my Kwame song dedication of the day......Care of Cell 44 by The Zombies

Care Of Cell 44 - The Zombies (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afrdo2qneoI#)
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: MM1 on September 28, 2012, 06:50:10 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: marilyn.monroe on September 28, 2012, 06:51:01 PM
He got away with murder...
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: MM1 on September 28, 2012, 07:04:12 PM
He may have many, many years to sit in a cell and think about how he got away with murder. 
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on October 01, 2012, 07:18:54 PM
Burn Baby, burn!

I should have grown up with Kwame and gotten stoned with him, hell, I could have a damn nice home office.

Merle Haggard's "Mama Tried" is my dedication to the ex scumbag mayor today.

Merle Haggard - Mama Tried (1968 live TV performance) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziFI_0Fx5ts&feature=player_embedded#)

A state grant that was supposed to help children and seniors instead helped pay for marble floors and a spiral staircase to a "chilling pad" used by Kwame Kilpatrick's longtime friend Bobby Ferguson, according to testimony today in the public corruption trial.

Jurors also heard testimony that Ferguson's nonprofit group submitted fake invoices to the state in trying to justify how it was spending a $250,000 grant it had received. According to another government witness, Ferguson also made money when he used a state grant to buy a $24,000 house that was supposed to help displaced youth and seniors and then sold it for $50,000 without ever using it for its intended purpose.

• Live blog replay: Blow-by-blow from this morning's court action

Among the government's witnesses this morning was Robert Murray, president of Contract Design Group. He testified his company helped redesign Ferguson's office and outfitted it with marble floors, a spiral wooden staircase that led to a loft and a conference room with a credenza.

Murray said the loft was initially supposed to be a meeting area, but Ferguson had to cut costs and decided he wanted a "chilling area," which eventually included a large television screen and furniture. Ferguson bought the TV himself, Murray testified.

According to Murray's testimony, $37,000 of state grant money was used to help refurbish Ferguson's office.

The total invoice for the design end of the project was $71,500. Of that, Murray testified his company received a check for $37,000 from Detroit 3D - a nonprofit Ferguson helped run that had received a $250,000 state grant. Ferguson paid the remaining balance of nearly $42,000, Murray testified -- a point that defense lawyers were quick to pick up on.

The defense has argued Detroit 3D did not misuse the grant, and money from the grant was used to build a work training center and a home for seniors and runaway teens. Ferguson's lawyer Susan Van Dusen suggested in court today that a back area of Ferguson's office could have been used for a training area, and the contractors just weren't aware of that.

Two contractors, including Murray, testified they never did work for Ferguson that involved anything to help seniors or involved a training center at his offices.

Jurors also heard from Christpher Boettcher, president of Airtech Corp., who testified Ferguson hired his company to help renovate his office, and his work entailed installing new doors, hinges, door frames and locksets.

Boettcher testified the invoice he submitted for his work to Ferguson didn't match the invoices Ferguson's nonprofit was submitting to the state to justify how it was spending some grant money. Detroit 3D had claimed it was paying Airtech Corp. and other contractors to help build a work training center and run a home for displaced seniors or youth, according to the courtroom testimony.

But Boettcher testified he was never hired to do any such work. He also said he never gave anyone authority to submit false invoices to the state on his company's behalf.

"I wouldn't give someone permission to use another invoice. It would need to be ours," Boettcher testified.

Martin Jolly of Detroit testified the home Detroit 3D owned was never used to house any displaced seniors or runaway teens.

Jolly's mother lived in the home next to the location, which was a duplex on Meyers Street. Jolly testified a woman with Alzheimer's disease lived in the other duplex, and Ferguson eventually bought the property. He described it as a rundown home with overgrown weeds that was not habitable. The only people he ever recalled living there were a woman with a little girl.

In 2005, Jolly bought the house from Ferguson for $50,000 and fixed it up, per his testimony.

IRS agent Ron Sauer testified that Ferguson's nonprofit had originally purchased the home with $24,000 in state grant money, which meant the $50,000 was pure profit for Ferguson.

Sauer, who followed the money trail involving the sale of the house, testified the check used to pay for the house was made payable to Detroit 3D but was deposited into the account of Ferguson Enterprises. Jurors saw the deposit slip in court. Ferguson got the money through a check made payable to cash, which he endorsed, per courtroom testimony.

Van Dusen suggested, on cross examination of Sauer, that Ferguson was entitled to do this because he was the president of the nonprofit and had authority to handle money transactions or withdraw money. She also noted the state never asked for the grant money back that was used to buy the house.

"I would say, it's unusual for a nonprofit to withdraw funds and give them to its president," Sauer testified.

Ferguson, Kilpatrick, Kilpatrick's father and ex-city water boss Victor Mercado are charged with running a criminal enterprise through the mayor's office to enrich themselves. Ferguson is accused of using his friendship with the ex-mayor to land lucrative contracts.

Prosecutors allege that Kilpatrick, while a state legislator, steered grant money toward Ferguson, and later helped his contractor friend secure millions in contracts while he was mayor.

All men deny the charges.

http://www.freep.com/article/20121001/NEWS0102/121001050/kilpatrick-corruption-trial-bobby-ferguson?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE (http://www.freep.com/article/20121001/NEWS0102/121001050/kilpatrick-corruption-trial-bobby-ferguson?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE)

Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Viper52 on October 01, 2012, 08:01:50 PM
Burn Baby, burn!

I should have grown up with Kwame and gotten stoned with him, hell, I could have a damn nice home office.

Merle Haggard's "Mama Tried" is my dedication to the ex scumbag mayor today.



Tell us how you really feel Fuzz.    LoL ;D


I've always thought from day 1, when he was first elected, that he was a punk and a thug. He just had that swagger.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on October 01, 2012, 09:16:33 PM
I'd come right out and say how I really feel but it would get me a vacation from the forum for a while.

I just hope that him, his dad, and Bobby get what is coming to them.....some serious jail time.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Viper52 on October 01, 2012, 09:30:08 PM
I believe his wife is just as guilty. I also think he conspired to have Tamara Greene murdered. I guess time will tell if it all comes out.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on October 02, 2012, 12:34:16 AM
She is a skank!
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Frenchfry on October 02, 2012, 08:34:19 AM

Tell us how you really feel Fuzz.    LoL ;D


I've always thought from day 1, when he was first elected, that he was a punk and a thug. He just had that swagger.
Must have been the color of his skin.  8*
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Viper52 on October 03, 2012, 09:27:35 AM
Must have been the color of his skin.  8*

Sorry Fried, you are wrong to assume I am anything like you!
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: jbs49238 on October 03, 2012, 09:34:52 AM
Must have been the color of his skin.  8*

Aren't you the one who regularly accuses others of projecting?
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 04, 2012, 09:08:41 PM
I believe his wife is just as guilty. I also think he conspired to have Tamara Greene murdered. I guess time will tell if it all comes out.

.........and I believe his employer Karmanos and Compu-Ware are complicitly guilty as hell, as well.

Karmanos has been bankrolling Kwame since he was booted from office, put him up in a fancy house in Texas, gave him a do nothing job for a big salary......  give me  a break.

Karmanos stinks worse than Kwame ever did.

Karmanos has money and money talks....... ;D
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: jbs49238 on October 05, 2012, 08:54:41 AM
I guess we know what the return to Kwame was for making it so easy for Karmanos and Compu-Ware to build downtown so cheap.

The big house and the do nothing job.  I had really wondered who is bankrolling him since he was sent packing, since his book was such a powerhouse... lol!
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on October 07, 2012, 10:57:01 AM
Not a good week for Kwame, but as the defense pointed out.....everything presented so far is not illegal, just unethical.....which makes it ok.  Can't wait for the trial to move into the water department shakedown portion where the prosecution supposedly has some good tangible proof of ILLEGAL kickbacks.

Rot in hell Kwame, you POS!

And here is my song dedication to you, Bobby, and Daddy:

Sam Cooke "Chain Gang" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmZdvVnMXCc#)

http://www.freep.com/article/20121007/NEWS0102/310070213/Kilpatrick-trial-Week-2-review-Allegations-of-kickbacks-pulled-from-bra-misused-grants?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE (http://www.freep.com/article/20121007/NEWS0102/310070213/Kilpatrick-trial-Week-2-review-Allegations-of-kickbacks-pulled-from-bra-misused-grants?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE)

Kilpatrick trial Week 2 review: Allegations of kickbacks pulled from bra, misused grants

Heading into Week 3 of the federal public corruption trial of ex-Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, the jury has plenty of colorful and potentially damaging material to process from the government's latest batch of witnesses.

The most compelling:

• A fund-raiser who says she pulled cash kickbacks out of her bra and gave them to Kilpatrick in the mayor's office.

• Contractors who said they got paid with public grants meant for kids and seniors to help renovate Bobby Ferguson's office with marble floors and a spiral staircase leading to a "chillin' pad." Ferguson is Kilpatrick's friend and codefendant.

The defense has repeatedly argued that the government's case is built on circumstantial and weak evidence and untruthful witnesses. It also has said that Kilpatrick may have engaged in unethical behavior, but nothing illegal, and that there have been no witnesses yet who have ever seen him take any money from anyone.

The government has been introducing evidence and witnesses in chapters to support its charges that Kilpatrick; his father, Bernard Kilpatrick; Ferguson, and former water department director Victor Mercado ran a criminal enterprise through the mayor's office to enrich themselves.

The jury has not yet heard about the supposedly crooked water contracts and shakedowns of contractors -- which are the meat of the indictment.

All of the men deny the charges.
Week 2 witnesses

• Chris Boettcher, president of Airtech in Detroit

• Robert Murray, president of Contract Design Group in Royal Oak

• Martin Jolly, who bought a house from Bobby Ferguson's nonprofit Detroit 3D

• Ron Sauer, IRS agent

• Kelly Bartlett, former legislative liaison for the State Budget Office

• Stephen Oshinsky, former systems manager, SkyTel of Mississippi

• Emma Bell, former chief fund-raiser for Kilpatrick when he was mayor

• Angela Burris, secretary and driver for Bell

• Robert Beeckman, FBI special agent

• Daniel Gotoff, Lake Research Partners of New York and Washington, D.C.


Highlights

Monday

• Prosecution: Jurors heard testimony about Ferguson's "chillin' pad" inside his office. Also, IRS agent Sauer testified bank records showed Ferguson's nonprofit Detroit 3D bought a home on the city's west side for $24,000 and sold it for $50,000, with Ferguson pocketing the proceeds. Detroit 3D said it was using the home for displaced seniors and runaways, but the neighbor, Jolly, said it was not habitable.

• Defense: The defense argued Detroit 3D did not misuse its grant, which helped build a training center and buy the home for seniors and runaways. Ferguson lawyer Susan Van Dusen suggested that a back area of Ferguson's office could have been used for a training area.

Tuesday

• Prosecution: Former state budget official Bartlett testified that then-state Rep. Kwame Kilpatrick called him in 2000 and scolded him for questions to two groups Kilpatrick recommended for state grants. Bartlett said he had concerns after learning Kilpatrick's wife, Carlita Kilpatrick, was getting six-figure money from the grants.

• Defense: Kilpatrick lawyer James Thomas pressed Bartlett to explain whether any crime had been committed or whether it was an ethical issue. Thomas asked Bartlett why no one from the state checked out firsthand what services Carlita Kilpatrick provided for the money.

Wednesday

• Prosecution: The government flashed a detailed paper trail that it says shows Kwame Kilpatrick's chief fund-raiser, Bell, used creative transactions to pay herself and the then-mayor hundreds of thousands of dollars from the mayor's campaign funds and two charities.

• Defense: The defense said the prosecution's paperwork did not show a direct link to Kilpatrick. It also attacked Bell's credibility saying she was a heavy gambler and drinker, tax evader, convicted felon and cooperating witness in the case.

Thursday

• Prosecution: Bell testified she delivered more than $200,000 in kickbacks to Kilpatrick from 2003-08.

• Defense: Thomas peppered Bell with questions about her character and the deal she cut with the government for possible leniency.

Friday

• Prosecution: Public opinion analyst Gotoff testified that his firm conducted polling and research for Kilpatrick's campaign in 2001, but his nearly $36,000 bill was paid for by the Kilpatrick Civic Fund -- a nonprofit designed to help Detroit youth and educate voters, among other things.

• Defense: Thomas said such funds could be used legally if they do not recommend a vote for or against any candidate. He also argued that the civic fund money was used to research issues for the public good.
Quotes of the week

• "An ethical issue and a crime are two different things." -- Kilpatrick lawyer Thomas, on allegations his client illegally steered a grant that helped his wife and friend.

• "There's only two people in this room, other than God, that knows what happened. And that's Mr. Kilpatrick and myself." -- Bell, saying she was testifying truthfully.

• "We haven't used one penny -- one penny -- of the civic fund in this campaign because it's not allowed by law." -- Kwame Kilpatrick, on video in a 2001 debate.

• "This was all campaign-related ... for the Kilpatrick campaign." -- Gotoff, on the polling and research his company did in 2001, paid for by the Kilpatrick Civic Fund.
Tidbits of the week

• "Sleeping juror gets the boot." On Tuesday, U.S. District Judge Nancy Edmunds tossed a juror for nodding off. Later in the week, Edmunds let another juror go, but didn't say why. That leaves 12 jurors and four alternates remaining in the trial, which could last four months.

• "Bell bet big." Emma Bell wagered more than $800,000 at Greektown Casino in 2008, according to records shown in court. She bet it all on slots and lost nearly $83,000. But Bell said she never took more than $2,000 a day to the casino, and that she just recycled her winnings in the slots
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: excelsior on October 07, 2012, 11:22:58 AM
Not a good week for Kwame, but as the defense pointed out.....everything presented so far is not illegal, just unethical.....which makes it ok.  Can't wait for the trial to move into the water department shakedown portion where the prosecution supposedly has some good tangible proof of ILLEGAL kickbacks.

Perhaps the defense is unaware of the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act.  Most everything presented this week would apply to this act.

I think the text messages and the phone taps will be the most damning.   The feds must be saving it for the end.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on October 07, 2012, 11:38:04 AM
I like the strategy the prosecution is using in starting in a time period of unethical behavior starting with the POS's days in the legislature, and presenting this pattern chronologically in what they are calling "Chapters" up to his time as Mayor and doing those two skanks Carlita and Christine. 

I hope they knock that smug, cocky attitude right off his face.....along with his childhood thug friend Bobby.  I could care less if the old man goes down or not......get the two hoodlums.   
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: blue2 on October 07, 2012, 11:42:05 AM
He has the  smug, cocky attitude because he knows he is going to beat this.   Racism baby!
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on October 07, 2012, 01:59:31 PM
Why would you upset me so, Blue2?  lol

I will be so dismayed if that is the case because if there is one deserving soul in the State of Michigan that should get some prison time it is him, Bobby, and his dad.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: excelsior on October 22, 2012, 09:15:25 PM
Here is the policy change that helped fuel the Kwame Kilpatrick criminal enterprise.

Witness in Kilpatrick trial says tweaked bid formula cost city millions; favored Ferguson's firm

more at:  http://www.freep.com/article/20121022/NEWS0102/121022062/Witness-in-Kilpatrick-trial-says-tweaked-bid-formula-cost-city-millions-favored-Ferguson-s-firm?odyssey=tab (http://www.freep.com/article/20121022/NEWS0102/121022062/Witness-in-Kilpatrick-trial-says-tweaked-bid-formula-cost-city-millions-favored-Ferguson-s-firm?odyssey=tab)|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE

With the tweaking of some numbers, Kwame Kilpatrick's longtime friend and codefendant Bobby Ferguson landed a multimillion-dollar contract -- even though he wasn't the lowest bidder, according to testimony today.

Detroit water department official Daniel Edwards offered testimony this morning that supported the government's claim that the normal contracting rules didn't apply to Ferguson, and that this was how the Kilpatrick Enterprise got rich: by perverting the water contracting system. Edwards testimony officially kicked off the government's extortion chapter as he told jurors that Ferguson's company got a cut of a $16.3-million water main contract in 2006, even though another company had bid significantly lower -- $14.3 million. A never-before-used mathematical formula helped make that happen, he said.

Edwards said that Ferguson's company, part of a joint venture called Detroit Project Management, won the contract after his boss asked him to compute a new bid-ranking formula. That involved taking the seven bids that had come in, adding them up, finding the average, and then picking those who came closest to the average bid. This eliminated those with the highest and lowest bids, he said.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Skittelroo on October 22, 2012, 09:33:23 PM
Kwame has been getting free air-fare (buddy passes) and free stays at the Arthenum in Detroit.  Sounds like that has ended.

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121022/METRO01/210220334/State-questions-Kwame-Kilpatrick-s-free-flights-hotel-stay-during-trial?odyssey=mod (http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121022/METRO01/210220334/State-questions-Kwame-Kilpatrick-s-free-flights-hotel-stay-during-trial?odyssey=mod)|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|p

Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: excelsior on November 01, 2012, 12:10:56 PM

It looks like Kwame's comeback may be delayed.

Kwame Kilpatrick: I'm done with Detroit

more at;  http://www.freep.com/article/20121031/NEWS0102/310310037/Kwame-Kilpatrick-I-m-done-with-Detroit (http://www.freep.com/article/20121031/NEWS0102/310310037/Kwame-Kilpatrick-I-m-done-with-Detroit)

Kwame Kilpatrick, who once vowed he would never give up on Detroit, says he is cutting ties with the Motor City and will never live here again, according to e-mails obtained by the Free Press.

The e-mails were provided by the Michigan Department of Corrections, which has been monitoring Kilpatrick's parole status resulting from a probation violation on felony charges from the text message scandal that drove him from office.

"I am a Texas resident. ... I have no intentions of ever residing here again," Kilpatrick wrote in a Sept. 13 e-mail to parole agent Charles Wright. "I'm often thought of as a Detroiter, but I am not. My life, family and residency is in Texas."
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on November 01, 2012, 01:59:49 PM
Well we still have reservations for him in one of our "Free" hospitality rooms -
It's called Milan Federal Penitentiary...
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on November 01, 2012, 06:51:00 PM
I caught that last night.  I thought him cleaning his parole officers *** for their personal correspondence being leaked to the press......only to be reminded it fell under FOA.

I hope him, Bobby, and Daddy are out on eBay right now pricing butt plugs by the dozen.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on November 05, 2012, 09:49:41 AM
Kilpatrick's co-defendant to plead guilty in middle of trial

The federal government is expected to secure a guilty plea in the public corruption trial involving ex-mayor Kwame Kilpatrick this morning, the Free Press has learned.

Ex-city water department director Victor Mercado is scheduled to plead guilty to conspiracy to commit extortion at 10:30 a.m. in U.S. District Court, according to the U.S. Attorneys office. Mercado’s lawyer, Martin Crandall, declined comment.
Mercado would be the first defendant to plead guilty during the trial, and the second of the original five defendants in the case to plead guilty. He follows Kilpatrick’s former top aide and longtime friend Derrick Miller, who also pleaded guilty to his role in the alleged criminal enterprise, and is expected to be the government’s key witness at trial.

The federal government’s years-long public corruption probe has netted more than a dozen guilty pleas, including those of former Detroit City Councilwoman Monica Conyers and political consultant Sam Riddle, who are both serving 37-month prison sentences for bribery.

The trial is currently on hold due to health of one of the defense lawyers, Gerald Evelyn, who was rushed to the hospital last week after becoming weak while cross examining a government witness.

Evelyn is representing contractor Bobby Ferguson, Kilpatrick’s longtime friend who is charged with – among other things – using his close ties to the mayor to win tens of millions of dollars worth of city contracts. Specifically, Ferguson and Kilpatrick are accused of rigging contracts and shaking down contractors to steer work Ferguson’s way, according to courtroom testimony and the indictment.

Mercado, Ferguson, Kilpatrick, and Kilpatrick’s father, Bernard Kilpatrick, are all charged with running a criminal enterprise through the mayor’s office to enrich themselves.

For months, Mercado’s defense has been that he was never part of Kilpatrick’s inner circle, and that he was never part of any conspiracy to help Ferguson win contracts. Rather, Mercado argued that he also was a victim of the Kilpatrick Enterprise, and that he never took any bribes in the forms of cash and lavish trips like his co-defendants.

It is not known whether Mercado will testify against the others at trial. But before the trial started, Mercado’s lawyers – in seeking a separate trial – had stated in documents that Mercado would act more like a “second prosecutor” at trial, and disclose potentially damaging information about the others.

During trial, which was entering week six before the postponement, Mercado’s lawyers painted him as an outsider who was ridiculed and alienated by Kilpatrick's inner circle.

"Victor's not in the loop. He's not in the circle of trust," Crandall told jurors during opening statements.

During trial, jurors saw text messages in which Ferguson and Kilpatrick criticized Mercado and called him derogatory names.

"His slick (expletive) is running out. I got his (expletive) on something. I aint happy," Kilpatrick texted Ferguson on March 14, 2004.

Kilpatrick was responding to a text from Ferguson, who had expressed concern that Mercado was leaving him out of a deal to replace water mains in downtown Detroit. Ferguson ultimately got the job for $6.9 million.

Crandall portrayed Mercado as a hardworking son of immigrant parents who worked his way up the ladder, earned six-figure salaries running water departments worldwide, then wound up working as a clerk at a Florida hardware store following the indictment.

Crandall said his client should never have been named in what he called the "blockbuster count."

"Racketeering is the govenrment's nuclear bomb because it has huge consequences," Crandall said, later telling jurors Mercado got caught up in someething he had nothing to do with. "Victor came here at the wrong time and got caught up in this agenda that wasn't his ... He's got to go home free to his wife ... He needs to be let go."

Before the trial started, Mercado had asked that he be tried separately, but U.S. District Judge Nancy Edmunds denied that request.

http://www.freep.com/article/20121105/NEWS0102/311050141/Ex-city-water-department-director-Victor-Mercado-to-plead-guilty?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE (http://www.freep.com/article/20121105/NEWS0102/311050141/Ex-city-water-department-director-Victor-Mercado-to-plead-guilty?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE)
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Will Sweat on November 05, 2012, 01:01:13 PM
WOW . . . seems like "Vic" began to see that in the end he was the "outsider" and was thought of that way and now . . . he is looking for a bargining chip.  Oops . . I would hate be to Mr. Kilpatrick or Mr. Furgeson. 
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: excelsior on November 30, 2012, 08:02:51 AM

Kwame claimed to be fighting crime in Detroit on his twitter account.

KwameKilpatrick ‏@KwameAndFamily
https://twitter.com/KwameAndFamily

Nov 28

Dude breaking into a house on Moms street. I yelled "Hey get out of there." He said "Damn, Ok Kwame." Then asked me for a picture. Wow! #hop
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: excelsior on December 05, 2012, 11:03:56 PM
It appears that Mr. Kilpatrick continues to violate the terms of his parole.

Kwame Kilpatrick fails to make Nov. restitution payment

more at:  http://www.freep.com/article/20121204/NEWS0102/121204064/kilatrick-fails-to-make-restitution-payment (http://www.freep.com/article/20121204/NEWS0102/121204064/kilatrick-fails-to-make-restitution-payment)

Former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, already embroiled in a federal public corruption trial, may be facing more legal troubles for not paying his restitution on time.

Kilpatrick missed his November restitution payment of $500, according to the Wayne County Prosecutor’s Office.

“It appears that Kilpatrick has decided not to honor the terms of his parole and hopefully corrective action is being taken by (the Michigan Department of Corrections) to deal with this situation,” Wayne County Assistant Prosecutor Maria Miller told the Free Press.

According to Miller, Kilpatrick’s last $500 restitution payment was made Oct. 31.

MDOC spokesman Russ Marlan said the missing payment is under investigation. He declined further comment, but confirmed that Kilpatrick fell behind on his community service requirement in October and is trying to catch up.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on December 06, 2012, 01:11:12 AM
"Dang me, Dang me, they oughta take a rope and hang me."  What a POS!
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on December 06, 2012, 09:39:39 PM
Hey it's not cheap to live a lifestyle of a gangsta...   

I'm sure his wife has an explaination why he didn't have the extra 500 this month from his spending cash...  She figures he's going to Prison anyway so why not start keeping what's hers now.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: excelsior on December 06, 2012, 10:33:54 PM
It appears Kwame has/had a great taste in airplanes.

Kilpatrick skipped town the night text message scandal broke, testimony confirms

By M.L. Elrick

more at:  http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/20275673/kilpatrick-skipped-town-the-night-text-message-scandal-broke-testimony-confirms (http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/20275673/kilpatrick-skipped-town-the-night-text-message-scandal-broke-testimony-confirms)


As Prosecutor Michael Bullotta ticked off the 20 round-trip flights businessman Tony Soave provided Kwame Kilpatrick and his family, I got antsy in court Wednesday waiting to see if one trip in particular made the list.

There were exotic destinations like Nassau and Bermuda. Mundane destinations like Cleveland, Chicago and Houston. Curious destinations like Greensboro, N.C.

By the time the list of trips on Soave Enterprises' Dassault Falcon neared the bottom, I was leaning forward, my eyes straining.

And there it was: Tallahassee. Jan. 23, 2008.

The date Jim Schaefer and I broke the text message scandal on www.freep.com (http://www.freep.com).


(http://img1.findthebest.com/sites/default/files/1617/media/images/Dassault_Falcon_900LX.jpg)
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SimpleMan on December 07, 2012, 01:56:02 AM
Metro Detroit has to be the most segregated, racist town there is. You have the poor black ghetto (Detroit), rich white areas (Birmingham, Bloomfield, Rochester, etc), redneck white trash (Downriver, Howell, etc.) not to mention the Middle Eastern and Latino populations...All of whom hate each other. I never realized it till I moved up to the (admittedly white and affulent) area I live in. Stupid thing is they ALL identify with "The D".  Kwame and this thugs are guilty as sin but his black constituents will support him no matter what
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: jbs49238 on December 07, 2012, 04:43:26 AM
Wow simple man... welcome to ANY mid market or larger metro area in America.  I would argue Metro Detroit is EXACTLY the same as any other place.  Ever been to Ottawa Hills or Sylvania?  Taken a trip into Woodville and Lake Twp.?

I would suggest if you were ambitious enough, you can find any of your pathetically labeled "groupings" where ever you were to tred.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on December 23, 2012, 07:28:16 PM
I think Kwame had a bad week.  Poorbastard.

http://www.freep.com/article/20121223/NEWS0102/312230182/-I-felt-like-I-had-to-pay-Kilpatrick-s-college-friend-testifies (http://www.freep.com/article/20121223/NEWS0102/312230182/-I-felt-like-I-had-to-pay-Kilpatrick-s-college-friend-testifies)

(http://ionenewsone.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/kwame251.jpg)

It wasn't exactly coal. But the prosecution filled Kwame Kilpatrick's stocking with a bitter-tasting gift on the last day of trial before the long holiday break: stinging testimony from his college fraternity friend.

The testimony came after a week of jurors seeing more damaging text messages about alleged contract hookups and expensive suits. They also heard lots of cussing.

The week wrapped up Friday, with jurors going home for two weeks after hearing three hours of testimony from ex-Kilpatrick aide Marc Andre Cunningham, who testified that he secretly funneled Kilpatrick's father at least $15,000 because "he was Kwam's dad. ... I felt like I had to pay."

Cunningham's testimony was used to bolster the government's theme that if you wanted to do business in Detroit, you had to curry favor with Kilpatrick -- either by enriching him personally, or his family and friends.

Cunningham said he understood that concept well. That's why he gave Bernard Kilpatrick money, he said: He needed a political favor from Kwame Kilpatrick -- support for a $30-million pension deal. And he wanted to secure future work, he said.

"That was how the game was played," he testified, later adding: "I was just trying to play by the rules."

Defense lawyers argued that neither Kilpatrick nor his father ever demanded or asked for any money from Cunningham. Bernard Kilpatrick's lawyer, John Shea, argued that his client earned the money he got from Cunningham by helping broker a lucrative pension deal for him.

Defense lawyers also argued that Cunningham cannot be trusted because he is a cooperating witness in the case, and he is only trying to spare himself a lengthy prison sentence. Cunningham pleaded guilty to bribery in 2010. He faces up to 37 months in prison under his plea deal, but could get less because of his cooperation.

Cunningham said he still considers Kwame Kilpatrick a good friend, and believed that he was a good mayor.

The cussing begins

Cunningham's testimony followed that of Bernard Parker III, a well-connected business consultant and former employee of contractor Bobby Ferguson who testified that Ferguson had inside help from the Kilpatrick administration in winning contracts and threw his weight around the contracting community. Parker also testified that Kilpatrick held up deals until Ferguson got what he wanted, and that Ferguson could be threatening at times when he didn't get his way.

That's when the F-bombs came out.

Parker fired them off one after another, allegedly repeating things that Ferguson had said when he got mad, or when Parker didn't honor his wishes.

"He told me, 'You scary mother (expletive). I'm the boss. You do what I tell you to do,' " Parker testified.

The defense attacked Parker's credibility and portrayed him as a lying "bull-(expletive) artist" who used connections to get ahead. They argued that if Ferguson was as bad as Parker claimed, why did Parker later work for him for two years.

Parker said it was bad judgment.
More text messages

Jurors also saw a batch of fresh text messages last week.

The texts, the government said, showed that Ferguson had inside help from Kilpatrick's ex-mistress and chief of staff Christine Beatty in landing a $7-million contract to help build a recreation center.

The day he won the contract in 2003, Ferguson texted this:

Ferguson: "Thank you, I love you, you are for sure my sister."

Beatty: "Oh you know I was going to take care of you!"

Jurors also saw a text to Ferguson in which he was being congratulated for winning that contract -- one day before it was actually awarded.

"Congratulations for tomorrow," Vincent Anwunah, an official with the city's Recreation Department, texted Ferguson on June 18, 2003.

Ferguson: "OK what happen good"

Anwunah: "your team got heilmann (the recreation contract)."

Ferguson: "yeah I know"

The defense did not challenge the texts.

Paying the Tailor

Two city officials also testified that Ferguson's construction team won the $7-million project to build the east-side Heilmann recreation center -- even though Ferguson wasn't among the top three bidders.

Among them was LaJuan Wilks, a city project manager, who testified that Ferguson's team did substandard work on the recreation center, including building locker rooms that didn't have proper heating or air-conditioning. She said that when she confronted Ferguson about the work, he berated her and shouted: "The only reason you have this job is because you're black."

Wilks said she feared Ferguson would have her fired.

Tyrone Clifton, a project manager at the building authority, corroborated Wilks' story about being fearful for her job. But he said that he didn't think Ferguson had the power to have her fired, which never happened.

Jurors also heard testimony from Kilpatrick's tailor, who backed up previous testimony of another contractor who said he paid off Kilpatrick's $4,800 custom suit tab to get into the mayor's good graces. The contractor said Kilpatrick's tailor suggested doing so.

Larry Alebiosu, the proprietor of Fashion International in Southfield, said the contractor did pay off Kilpatrick's suit tab -- but that it wasn't his idea.

And even though that debt was taken care of, the tailor said, "I still have an outstanding balance for the mayor in my store."

Kilpatrick and his father both grinned.

The trial resumes Jan. 3.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 23, 2012, 08:38:13 PM
The really sad part of all of this is, if the clown ran for mayor of Detroit in the next election. Detroiters would vote him in.  That is the travesty in all this.  I find hard to fathom that Detroiters are that dam dumb.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on December 24, 2012, 08:54:32 AM
Its a wonder any real work was done properly -
when all they were worried about was how much they could skim from the City...

I knew of misuse of federal grants that occurred never could understand why the
Fed's never got involved.   Most other Cities had to follow the rules.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on December 24, 2012, 09:18:33 AM
From one of my favorite movies.....Office Space, but so appropriate for this story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL9ihXiFAko (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL9ihXiFAko)
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: blue2 on December 24, 2012, 10:08:48 AM
Don't recall where I read it but during Kwame's reign the city of Detroit did not withhold city income taxes from employees living in the city.  Took care of his bros i guess.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on December 24, 2012, 11:03:48 AM
The really sad part of all of this is, if the clown ran for mayor of Detroit in the next election. Detroiters would vote him in.  That is the travesty in all this.  I find hard to fathom that Detroiters are that dam dumb.

For sure.

They elected Ex Con Brian Banks to the State Legislator.  Why not an Ex Con Mayor too?

Those of us outside of Detroit can't possibly understand the challenges Detroiters face.  Kwame - they can identify with him....
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 24, 2012, 10:51:23 PM
For sure.

They elected Ex Con Brian Banks to the State Legislator.  Why not an Ex Con Mayor too?

Those of us outside of Detroit can't possibly understand the challenges Detroiters face.  Kwame - they can identify with him....

What challenges??  I worked on Schaefer and 96 for 10 years.  I remember one day the Detroit cops were on the side of the street peering down a sewer grate with flashlights.  Seems as though some 'bro' had stuffed one of his hookers down the sewer after he'd shot her.  She was floating face up with her face pressed against the sewer grate.  They left her there BTW.  The burned out houses, the pimps, the carjackings, the dope sellers on every corner, the long lines at the Capuchin Monks soup Kitchen, the panhandlers begging for a cigarette as you walk in front of the Ren-Cen...  The cops that never come, it's a mess.  Nuclear winter needs to come to Detroit.  It's a sad and ugly place that was once a vibrant city until Coleman Young raped it and Kwame raped the corpse.

When I go to the Motor, I go armed, always.

I will say that (from personal experience), there isn't any prejudice in Detroit.  In Detroit if they want your money, they could care less what color you are.  Money for drugs crosses all racial and ethnic boundaries, it's a 'gotta have it'.....

Again, I worked in the hood for 10 years, so I know, firsthand what it's really like....

You don't want to go there.  Believe me.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on January 08, 2013, 10:50:34 AM
I love it....now even Walmart is ratting the POS out.

Christmas gift from Chicago pastor may land former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick back in prison

[urlhttp://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/detroit/christmas-gift-from-chicago-pastor-may-land-former-detroit-mayor-kwame-kilpatrick-back-in-prison][/url]

DETROIT (WXYZ) - A Christmas present from a well known Chicago pastor may land Kwame Kilpatrick back in prison.

The Michigan Department of Corrections (MDOC) says Kilpatrick was caught counting $2000 on a Wal-Mart security camera this past December. The wire transfer came from Chicago religious leader, Pastor Corey Brooks.Brooks says he sent Kilpatrick the money after receiving a letter from the former Detroit mayor pleading for help. In the letter, Kilpatrick says he and his family were broke due to legal fees, according to the MDOC.

Kilpatrick owes hundreds of thousands of dollars in restitution as a result of his perjury conviction.

Authorities are now investigating if failing to report the monetary gift is a violation of Kilpatrick's parole, says MDOC. If the answer is yes, Kwame Kilpatrick may be going back to prison.

Kwame Kilpatrick, his father Bernard and friend Bobby Ferguson are currently on trial in federal court for allegedly running a criminal enterprise out of the city of Detroit.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Will Sweat on January 08, 2013, 10:55:16 AM
damn, Kwame shops at WallyWorld! ! 
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 08, 2013, 12:18:19 PM
I have talk radio on in the shop and I just heard some snippets on there.  The guy is perpetually dirty.  Corruption at it's finest.

I would imagine that digging into just about any politician's past would yield less than honest behavior.

Wonder if Richardville's past is colorful?
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on January 08, 2013, 12:29:29 PM
Not sure......I hear beauticians, manicurists, and pedicurists keep a secret well.

I'd be more interested with getting to the bottom of who has him bought and paid for.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on January 08, 2013, 12:31:20 PM
Just follow the money.  It should be mostly public record.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on January 08, 2013, 12:36:44 PM
Since I've never voted for him in the past, nor intend to ever vote for him in any other position his career politician path takes him, I'm not too concerned.  I'd only care so I could plaster him to be honest....wouldn't matter though, the people in this district must prefer Republicans who are a phony.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 08, 2013, 12:39:37 PM
Don't recall where I read it but during Kwame's reign the city of Detroit did not withhold city income taxes from employees living in the city.  Took care of his bros i guess.

It was in the Freep...
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: excelsior on January 10, 2013, 08:19:15 PM
Michigan's catch and release program appears to be working.

Kilpatrick confined to his mom's house, has to wear tether during parole investigation

more at:  http://www.freep.com/article/20130110/NEWS0102/130110084/kwame-kilaptrick-tether?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE (http://www.freep.com/article/20130110/NEWS0102/130110084/kwame-kilaptrick-tether?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE)

Kwame Kilpatrick is confined to his mother’s house and wearing a new GPS tether while the Michigan Department of Corrections investigates whether the former Detroit mayor violated his parole.

Kilpatrick was fitted with the new device and informed of his new restrictions this afternoon at his mother’s home on Detroit’s west side.

Kilpatrick can’t return to his family home in Texas, said corrections spokesman Russ Marlan. New restrictions permit him to leave only to meet with his lawyers, go to court or to fulfill any pre-approved employment opportunities, such as speaking engagements.

“Other than those three things he will not be allowed to leave the house,” Marlan said.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on January 10, 2013, 08:22:49 PM
LOL......Sweet.

First I heard that, thanks.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on January 10, 2013, 11:11:44 PM
It looks like his parole could/should be revoked... then he wouldn't have so much time to tweet his "jokes"... about being enslaved by the "man"...
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on January 11, 2013, 05:41:49 AM
The things coming out in the trial by the Feds shows that he was a bigger POS than even I had thought to begin with. 
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Will Sweat on January 11, 2013, 07:57:54 AM
I think Kwame should contact one of the cable channels and try to sell a reality show; "Kwame - Home Alone" . . . he could raise money to repay the City and support his family.  Hell, people love Honey Boo Boo . . . I bet people would watch Carlita's "Boo" . . .
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on January 11, 2013, 09:05:01 AM
Here could be the opening theme song....lol.

Kwame We Pray For You (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyoXvYn2o4s#)

Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Will Sweat on January 11, 2013, 09:11:56 AM
lol . . . that is too funny! !  "pray you drop the soap on the shower floor, pray you go to bed tired and sore and wake up with an "I love bob" tattoo . . . " . . . wow . . .
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on January 11, 2013, 09:12:52 AM
Classic.....hope your cell mate is bigger than you.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on January 11, 2013, 09:15:25 AM
Now that reality show is one i may watch... ;D 
Although it may have to be called Carlita's way,
After all she's the murderer - while he's just the thief

It is interesting how this man was still free to shake down others for his personal interest.
Free hotels, free flights, free $$...  This after he was convicted  8*
maybe he could be the spokesperson for Obama in his re-organization,
how to get all the "free" stuff.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on January 18, 2013, 09:40:09 AM
I enjoyed the comments at the bottom, and one was right on......send the kids to public schools.

She is as big of a POS as he is.

http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/detroit/carlita-kilpatrick-makes-plea-for-donations (http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/detroit/carlita-kilpatrick-makes-plea-for-donations)

Kilpatricks end plea for help with sons' tuition



Kwame and Carlita Kilpatrick's plea for donations to help pay their sons' tuition has ended after the family decided not to send their children to a private school.

"Our children were presented with an opportunity to attend one of the best schools in the country," the ex-mayor said in a statement today.

"The letter was sent to two individuals. We decided, as a family, that our children would not attend the school.  We called the 2 individuals and told them of our decision...No donations were needed at that point.  No donations were received," he said.

The former mayor told state officials about the plea last week, after he got in trouble for not reporting other cash gifts he had received.

The solicitation itself doesn't break the rules for his parole, but Kilpatrick would have to report any money his family may receive.

Kilpatrick tweeted late Thursday:

Amazing how MI punishes by forcing u to stay in their State & it works. Despite the #detroitlove, I feel really punished here. #giveususfree
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: blue2 on January 18, 2013, 09:51:01 AM
It's looking like Toledo has Kwame jr in Mayor Bell.  He acts about the same pushing people around and not accountable for any of his actions.  Being questioned now by city council about the 2 new SUV's assigned to the mayors office.  Only purchase request approved was for 3 street sweeps but someone they only have 2 street sweeps and a couple of SUV's.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 18, 2013, 11:37:26 PM
There is a difference.  Kwame is hetrosexual, at least I think he is.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on January 19, 2013, 08:15:12 AM
Looks like Mayor Nagin is going to join Club Fed with Kwame.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on January 19, 2013, 10:28:12 AM
Saw that.....looks like similar corruptness too, but not quite to the scale of the Hip Hop Mayor.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: blue2 on January 19, 2013, 10:33:49 AM
It was obvious after the big flood in N.O. that Nagin had no business being the mayor let alone any other elective office.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on January 19, 2013, 11:55:28 AM
What does one expect the product of an "entitlement" party leader to do when they "leave office"?

When shakedowns are a part of your life and culture - it's a hard habit to break
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on January 19, 2013, 12:25:15 PM
The audacity for them to even ask just simply astounds me.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 20, 2013, 12:06:17 AM
Not me.  It's 'par for the course' as the old saying goes and I'd wager that she gets donations whether the kids go there or not.  Having brass balls (in this case brass panties) appears to be a Kilpatric trait.

With half the country playing the entitlement game, nothing suprises me.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: blue2 on January 20, 2013, 10:39:18 AM
The first question is why are they receiving $13,000 in financial aid?
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on January 25, 2013, 09:09:48 AM
not sure if I read that right.
???  so his violation is only a weekend in jail???

And what fool uses Moneygram at those rates!
(Unless you thought you were being "clever" and hiding $$)
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Will Sweat on January 25, 2013, 09:47:19 AM
Kwame is not a real "criminal". . . . otherwise he would have known it is best to use "loadable" gift cards that are not traceable. 

For everything else . . . VISA :-)
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on January 25, 2013, 09:49:58 AM
You can bet that's what his lawyers probably told him...
after they get their "share"...
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 26, 2013, 11:51:20 PM
Old Kwam is in the slammer over the weekend.....
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on January 27, 2013, 05:56:26 AM
The way his Fed trial is going, he best get used to it.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on January 27, 2013, 11:32:01 AM
I'm sure other violators of Parole are going to be given this same sweet deal... 

BTW what do you think Kwame decided to eat:

Kilpatrick will be housed in a 7’6” by 11’ single cell the entire weekend and will have no out-of-cell activity, according to the MDOC. On tonight's menu Kilpatrick will have the following:
4 ounce baked fish with tartar sauce or a 6 ounce vegetable bean patty
Brown rice pilaf
Carrot and raisin salad
2 slices of wheat bread with butter
Banana or a slice of apple sauce cake
Skim milk or grape drink

Kilpatrick will be released from custody early Monday morning.

Read more: http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigations/kwame-kilpatrick-will-eat-fish-and-rice-in-an-isolated-cell-when-back-behind-bars-this-weekend#ixzz2JC656ohg (http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigations/kwame-kilpatrick-will-eat-fish-and-rice-in-an-isolated-cell-when-back-behind-bars-this-weekend#ixzz2JC656ohg)
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 27, 2013, 11:37:40 AM
He probably had Karmanos bring him a Porterhouse steak, twice baked potato and a bottle of vintage Sherry.....

It's not about what you are, it's about what you know..... ;D
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on January 27, 2013, 11:44:39 AM
I knew one of the guards in Milan, where they held him instead of putting him with the GP in a State Prison (another privilege not afforded common criminals)

He did lose weight on prison food, and had a private cell.

I was waiting to see him star in OZ...
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on January 27, 2013, 01:11:48 PM
I'm sure other violators of Parole are going to be given this same sweet deal... 

BTW what do you think Kwame decided to eat:

Kilpatrick will be housed in a 7’6” by 11’ single cell the entire weekend and will have no out-of-cell activity, according to the MDOC. On tonight's menu Kilpatrick will have the following:
4 ounce baked fish with tartar sauce or a 6 ounce vegetable bean patty
Brown rice pilaf
Carrot and raisin salad
2 slices of wheat bread with butter
Banana or a slice of apple sauce cake
Skim milk or grape drink

Kilpatrick will be released from custody early Monday morning.

Read more: [url]http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigations/kwame-kilpatrick-will-eat-fish-and-rice-in-an-isolated-cell-when-back-behind-bars-this-weekend#ixzz2JC656ohg[/url] ([url]http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigations/kwame-kilpatrick-will-eat-fish-and-rice-in-an-isolated-cell-when-back-behind-bars-this-weekend#ixzz2JC656ohg[/url])


They should have made him shower with the General Population......handcuffed!
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on January 27, 2013, 02:08:41 PM
They should have made him shower with the General Population......handcuffed!

And an extra slippery brand of soap!
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on February 04, 2013, 06:11:39 PM
Heard on the news earlier that the Defense is expected to finish their part of the case Wednesday, and closing arguments to start Monday next week.

I have a sneaky feeling these three are going to skate.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Baggins on February 04, 2013, 06:31:06 PM
Heard on the news earlier that the Defense is expected to finish their part of the case Wednesday, and closing arguments to start Monday next week.

I have a sneaky feeling these three are going to skate.


I just want them to get to the good part, where he goes to JAIL...!
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on February 04, 2013, 06:33:28 PM
Same here.....just have a bad feeling about this though.  A jury of peers!
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: blue2 on February 04, 2013, 08:29:59 PM
i don't know where Kwame's trial is was or is going to be but if it's in Detroit he will not be found guilty. 
Those people would vote him again tomorrow if he ran for office.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: sammy on February 04, 2013, 08:50:20 PM
i don't know where Kwame's trial is was or is going to be but if it's in Detroit he will not be found guilty. 
Those people would vote him again tomorrow if he ran for office.
Where on Earth is it that you live, that you don't know where this trial is, was, or will be? You may be retired, but since you are still posting, I assume you are still aware of the world about you. HELLOOO!
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on February 10, 2013, 08:01:42 PM
Looks like he is practicing assuming the position in the men's shower stall at his next home.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on February 11, 2013, 11:45:16 PM
Closing arguments done - now it's up to the jury  8*

========================================================
Show ex-mayor Kwame Kilpatrick he's not above the law, prosecutor tells federal jurors

Kwame Kilpatrick had it all — a free mansion, bodyguards and staff to answer his every beck and call — “but that wasn’t enough.”

That’s what a federal prosecutor told jurors during closing arguments in Detroit’s historic public corruption trial this morning. Kilpatrick’s greed, Assistant U.S. Attorney Michael Bullotta argued, became more important than the citizens of Detroit, and Kilpatrick unlawfully used the mayor’s office to enrich himself, his family and his friends.

"He turned the mayor’s office into Kilpatrick Incorporated," Bullotta argued, repeatedly stressing that four words summed up how Kilpatrick, his father and his contractor friend got rich: “No deal without me.”

"That was their mantra. Those were their words. That was their scheme," Bullotta said of the defendants: Kilpatrick, his father Bernard Kilpatrick and his longtime contractor friend Bobby Ferguson.

Bullotta, who spent nearly two hours summing up the government’s massive case, hammered away at a constant theme during his closing: Kilpatrick steered work to Ferguson by fostering a climate of fear in the contracting community, forcing firms to include his pal in on deals or risk losing work. And it worked, he said, arguing that Ferguson made $84 million off crooked contracts while his pal was mayor.

In turn, Bullotta said, Ferguson shared his spoils with Kilpatrick. And Bernard Kilpatrick benefited along the way, too, he said, by using his son’s position to extort wealthy businessmen who needed his connections to win contracts.

Bullotta also stressed that all three men were members of what the government dubbed the Kilpatrick Enterprise. They were all in cahoots to make money off contracts, especially those in the water department, and held secret meetings over the years, plotting on how they could get Ferguson in on deals. he said.

All three, Bullotta argued, used the mayor's office to get rich:

• Ferguson used his ties to the ex-mayor to get contracts.

• Kilpatrick meddled in the contracting process to make sure Ferguson got the jobs.

• Bernard Kilpatrick used his son's name to extort businessmen who wanted contracts.

“Ask yourselves this. If Kwame Kilpatrick was not part of a conspiracy with Bobby Ferguson and Bernard Kilpatrick, could they have ever extorted a single person without the power of the mayor’s office? No,” Bullotta said, at times pounding his fist on the lectern and raising his voice.

Bullotta said Kilpatrick turned his back on Detroiters by catering to his own needs.

“He took an oath and he shattered that oath,” Bullotta said. “The simple truth is that Kwame Kilpatrick wanted to help himself more than (Detroiters).”

Bullotta said Kilpatrick avoided responsibility because he wanted something else more.

"Kwame Kilpatrick wanted money. He wanted power,” Bullotta said, later adding:

"How did he think he could get away with it? He thought that rules do not apply to him."

Bullotta asked the jury to teach Kilpatrick a lesson, and send a message that public corruption will not and should not be tolerated.

"You can confirm that nobody, least of all a public official, is above the law," Bullotta said. "Do the only thing that’s justified based on their action. Find them guilty of every single count in this indictment. Thank you."
http://www.freep.com/article/20130211/NEWS0102/130211088/kwame-kilpatrick-public-corruption-trial-closing (http://www.freep.com/article/20130211/NEWS0102/130211088/kwame-kilpatrick-public-corruption-trial-closing)
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on February 12, 2013, 05:36:07 AM
Dang Me - Roger Miller (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1s7HHnnjU4#)
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on February 14, 2013, 11:03:11 AM
I guess the Jury doesn't have it yet...  they are still hearing closing arguments...
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DETROIT (AP) -
After a day off, jurors are returning to court to hear more closing arguments in the corruption trial of former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick.

Attorneys for Kilpatrick's father, Bernard, and contractor Bobby Ferguson are next to speak Thursday. Prosecutors will then give a final rebuttal argument.

It's unclear whether deliberations will start Thursday or Friday. The Kilpatricks and Ferguson are charged with running a criminal enterprise out of city hall by rigging contracts, accepting bribes and shaking down businesses.

Kwame Kilpatrick's attorney urged jurors Tuesday to acquit him on all 30 charges. James Thomas says his client saved money and regularly received cash gifts, not bribes, from city employees and political supporters.

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/21194597/more-final-arguments-next-in-kilpatrick-trial (http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/21194597/more-final-arguments-next-in-kilpatrick-trial)
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: blue2 on February 14, 2013, 01:08:11 PM
I doubt that Kwames fellow getto dwellers will find him guilty.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on February 18, 2013, 09:23:48 AM
(Reuters) - It's now up to a federal jury in Detroit to weigh five months of trial testimony from more than 80 witnesses to decide the fate of former Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, his father and a former city contractor in the biggest corruption probe to face the city in decades.

The nine women and three men on the jury were expected to begin deliberations on Tuesday in the trial of Kilpatrick, 42, his father Bernard Kilpatrick, 71, and mayoral pal and city contractor Bobby Ferguson, 44.

In the case before U.S. District Judge Nancy Edmunds, prosecutors have accused the three men of turning the mayor's office into "Kilpatrick Incorporated," extorting bribes from contractors who wanted to get or keep city contracts. Some contractors were forced to include Ferguson on jobs, even though he did little or no work, prosecutors said.

"The scale of corruption is breathtaking," Assistant U.S. Attorney Mark Chutkow said in his closing argument on Friday.

Kilpatrick steered $83 million in city contracts to Ferguson in exchange for kickbacks that enabled Kilpatrick to spend $840,000 more than his $160,000-a-year mayor's salary would have allowed, prosecutors said.

The former mayor also is accused of using his nonprofit Kilpatrick Civic Fund for personal and political expenses.

The government said Kilpatrick's father, a governmental consultant, used his son's position to extort bribes from contractors.

Although the defendants didn't testify at trial, their lawyers said they were victims of overzealous prosecutors, flimsy evidence, and witnesses who lied to get lenient treatment in their own corruption cases.

Witnesses in the trial included a top former mayoral aide, a mayoral fundraiser and a former contractor at the city's convention center. Evidence included text messages, bank checks, federal wiretaps and surveillance video.

Kwame Kilpatrick's lawyer, James Thomas, told jurors the witnesses were "bought and paid for" by the government and that Kilpatrick's additional cash came from savings and gifts. Thomas said Kilpatrick never extorted anyone or forced anyone to hire Ferguson. Rather, he helped Ferguson because he knew Ferguson would hire Detroiters, Thomas said.

"Let Mr. Kilpatrick go home with his wife and kids," Thomas said in his closing argument.

Lawyers for Ferguson and Bernard Kilpatrick said they were honest and hard-working. Bernard Kilpatrick's lawyer said he was targeted because he is the former mayor's father.

The defendants are charged with racketeering, conspiracy and extortion, which carry a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison. Kwame Kilpatrick also faces mail and wire fraud charges.

Kwame Kilpatrick and Ferguson are also charged with bribery, punishable by up to 10 years behind bars. And both Kilpatricks are accused of filing false tax returns.

CITY DECAY MADE WORSE BY CORRUPTION

The ongoing corruption probe has led to criminal charges against two dozen others, including former vendors and city officials such as the former head of the city's water and sewer department, Victor Mercado, who pleaded guilty during the trial to one conspiracy count and faces up to 18 months in prison.

Legal expert Peter Henning, a Wayne State University law professor and former federal prosecutor, predicted that jurors would convict Kwame Kilpatrick and Ferguson on some charges, but might acquit Bernard Kilpatrick, who played a lesser role.

"They have to be happy with how their case has gone," Henning said of the prosecution. "There were some bumps in the road with some of the witnesses, but that's not surprising in a case like this."

The U.S. Attorney's Office in Detroit has a lot riding on the verdict after several high profile setbacks, including the acquittal in March of a militia group accused of plotting a violent anti-government revolt and a mistrial last June declared in a separate $12.9 million bid-rigging case against Ferguson.

Former Detroit Councilwoman Sheila Cockrel, who teaches Detroit political history at Wayne State, said the pay-to-play culture under Kilpatrick damaged the city.

"It was literally a cancer on the core of the city," Cockrel said. "I think the misuse of public funds for personal gain exacerbated an already deeply decayed financial infrastructure."

Detroit's population has plunged since the 1950s, leaving it with a shrinking tax base and huge debts. Governor Rick Snyder is considering a state-appointed emergency financial manager for Detroit, a step toward what could be the largest municipal bankruptcy in U.S. history.

Kilpatrick, a former state representative, was considered a rising star in the national Democratic Party when he was elected mayor in November 2001. His tenure turned out to be marked by accusations of cronyism, nepotism and lavish spending.

In 2008, he pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice for lying in a civil trial where he denied having an extramarital affair with his former chief of staff and conspiring with her to fire a deputy police chief. The deputy chief was investigating reports about a never-proven wild party at the mayoral mansion where Kilpatrick's wife supposedly attacked a stripper.

Kilpatrick agreed to resign and pay $1 million restitution to the city and was jailed for 99 days.

In 2010, a Wayne County judge sentenced Kilpatrick to prison for a probation violation - concealing assets to avoid paying the ordered restitution while living a lavish lifestyle in a Dallas, Texas, suburb. He served 14 months.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/18/us-usa-crime-kilpatrick-idUSBRE91H09Q20130218 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/18/us-usa-crime-kilpatrick-idUSBRE91H09Q20130218)
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on July 29, 2013, 01:01:48 PM
Actually a Carlita update.  I bet she would like to just beat Tamara Green about right now.

Carlita Kilpatrick loses job, lease on Texas home

http://www.freep.com/article/20130723/NEWS0102/307230082/ (http://www.freep.com/article/20130723/NEWS0102/307230082/)



With her husband behind bars, Detroit’s former first lady, Carlita Kilpatrick, has fallen on hard times in Texas, losing her job and her lease on the family’s extravagant 5,000-square-foot home in suburban Dallas.

According to neighbors, some of the Kilpatricks’ furniture and numerous household belongings were out on the curb on trash pickup day last Monday, three days before the family officially moved out of the five-bedroom home they rented for $2,600 a month in Grand Prairie. According to Dallas real estate agent Will Butler, Carlita Kilpatrick was not evicted, but the owner of the house chose not to renew her lease. Butler did not elaborate, stating only that the house is now on the market to be leased again, this time for $2,799 a month.

It is not known where the Kilpatricks moved, but sources familiar with Carlita Kilpatrick’s plight said that the family’s church, the Potter’s House in Dallas, is helping them out. Officials with Potter’s House did not return calls or emails for comment.

Neighbors, meanwhile, said the Kilpatricks left a lot behind on the curb.

“There was a lot of furniture. It was a lot of stuff there … the kind of stuff that you keep,” said one neighbor, Malinda Carter, who noted she “rarely” saw the Kilpatricks and had no idea why they left or where they went.

July has been a tough month for Carlita Kilpatrick. One week before she moved out of her house, she lost her $41,200 job working for the City of Duncanville, Texas, because, city officials said, she didn’t meet the job’s requirements.

Carlita Kilpatrick, who is now raising three sons on her own following her husband’s public corruption conviction, was hired in January as a specialist at the Duncanville Fieldhouse, an athletic facility with basketball courts, a fitness center and meeting rooms. Her duties included organizing and scheduling sporting events, such as basketball and volleyball tournaments, and overseeing the facility’s daily operations.

According to Duncanville’s public information officer Claudia Garibay, Carlita Kilpatrick was on a 180-day probation period and did not meet the requirements of the job. She did not elaborate, beyond confirming that Kilpatrick’s job officially ended July 10.

Carlita Kilpatrick got the job while her husband, Kwame Kilpatrick, was on trial in Detroit federal court, where a jury in March convicted him and his longtime friend, Bobby Ferguson, on 34 counts combined. Both men face up to 20 years, maybe more, in prison for a host of crimes, including bribery and extortion.

Carlita Kilpatrick, who has never been charged with any crimes, could not be reached for comment. Her mother-in-law, the former U.S. Rep. Carolyn Cheeks-Kilpatrick, could not be reached for comment.

Mike Paul, a former spokesman for the Kilpatrick family, said he believes Carlita Kilpatrick and her children deserve privacy and peace, and urged the public and faith-community to pray for their well-being.

“Let them move on,” Paul said in a phone interview from his New York office. “For anyone who has a heart: Look, Kwame is in prison. Let this family have some peace.”

Paul also stressed that Carlita Kilpatrick has a right to move on with her life, get a job and support her children.

“Quite frankly, I feel for them,” Paul said.

Duncanville City Manager Greg Contreras, who made the decision to terminate Kilpatrick, is on vacation and could not be reached for comment.

During Kilpatrick’s tenure as mayor, Carlita Kilpatrick made headlines over the infamous Lincoln Navigator scandal, in which text messages revealed that taxpayers paid for two luxury SUVs for the former first lady, who was persistent in getting them.

In one 2002 text, she wrote: “Have you heard anything about my navi?" More than six hours later, she wrote again: "ANY WORD ON MY NAVIGATOR?" Three months later, she texted her husband: "Can I get my truck before the 2004s are out?"

Carlita Kilpatrick’s name also surfaced during the recent public corruption trial, when a government witness testified that she received tens of thousands of dollars in grant money for a project she performed little to no work for, irking state officials who thought the money was going to poor people.

Carlita Kilpatrick, however, did not attend any of the trial, except for closing arguments. She was back in Texas, raising her sons in the 5,016-square-foot home that the family moved into nearly two years ago. It was bigger than the Manoogian mansion, and an upgrade from the Texas home in which the Kilpatricks had previously lived. The move to the larger home drew the ire of parole officials, who raised Kilpatrick’s restitution last year from $125 a month to $500 a month after concluding he could afford to pay more.

Kilpatrick, for example, had been paying more than $314 a month for cable — more than double his restitution payment — and $800 a month for a car.

Kilpatrick still owes more than $800,000 in restitution to the City of Detroit for lying about an affair and ruining the careers of three police officers in a whistle-blower trial that cost the City of Detroit $8.4 million. The lies were revealed in text messages, published by the Free Press, eventually leading to criminal charges and his downfall. At $500 a month, it will take him more than 140 years to pay it off.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on July 29, 2013, 07:48:15 PM
I'm sure her next house will be fully furnished with the hidden stash from Detroit... >:(

It appears that extra hundred dollars a month was just too much 8*

Wonder how Kwame's doing - no tweets so far this trip to prison   ;D
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on October 10, 2013, 01:29:57 PM
Finally....this is over.  Rot in Texas Federal prison for 28 years you POS!

http://www.freep.com/article/20131010/NEWS0102/310100095/Kwame-Kilpatrick-sentencing (http://www.freep.com/article/20131010/NEWS0102/310100095/Kwame-Kilpatrick-sentencing)
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on October 10, 2013, 02:52:57 PM
I hope no one gives him a pardon....  but it wouldn't surprise me.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on October 10, 2013, 03:34:07 PM
There ain't no way anyone will do that!  Surely not.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: blue2 on October 10, 2013, 05:34:15 PM
outgoing presidents always pardon a bunch of people for one reason or another.  obama will break the record for the numbers he pardons.  Kwame will be one of them.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on October 11, 2013, 05:49:02 AM
I think I'm willing to make a friendly wager on that one blue2.  I have zero respect for Obama as a leader, but I do not believe he will pardon an elected official convicted of so many federal racketeering counts.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 11, 2013, 01:28:53 PM
I think I'm willing to make a friendly wager on that one blue2.  I have zero respect for Obama as a leader, but I do not believe he will pardon an elected official convicted of so many federal racketeering counts.

The 64 dollar question is who, in the end, will pardon Obama for all his misdeeds, corruption and his socialistic treatment of the populus?
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: blue2 on October 11, 2013, 03:31:04 PM
Clinton let some real sleazebag out of jail and so did Bush
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on October 11, 2013, 04:55:55 PM
Yea, I agree that they both did....but honestly considering the high profile this was with federal charges of racketeering....I'd be shocked, and so would this entire region.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 13, 2013, 02:26:02 PM
Yea, I agree that they both did....but honestly considering the high profile this was with federal charges of racketeering....I'd be shocked, and so would this entire region.

Actually, Obama and Kilpatrick should exchange places....  in prison..... ;D
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Will Sweat on October 13, 2013, 02:54:56 PM
I don't question that Kwame Kilpatrick broke the law and destroyed the public trust.  But I don't believe that putting him in prison for 28 years made sense.  Kwame, I believe, should have been sentenced to 10 years maybe 15 at worse. 

While Kwame cost the Citizens of Michigan (yes, Michigan and not just Detroit as one must take into account revenue sharing that the City of Detroit recieves) over 9 million dollars, putting Mr. Kilpatrick in federal prison for 28 years will now cost between 812,000.00 (using a low of 29,000.00 a year) and 1,288,000.00 (using a high average of 45,000.00 a year). 

http://www.vera.org/sites/default/files/resources/downloads/Price_of_Prisons_updated_version_072512.pdf (http://www.vera.org/sites/default/files/resources/downloads/Price_of_Prisons_updated_version_072512.pdf)

I doubt that Mr. Kilpatrick will be pardoned by anyone and have never read that he or his family is close with Pres. Obama. 
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Viper52 on October 13, 2013, 03:25:27 PM
Kwame got what he deserved.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: blue2 on October 13, 2013, 04:49:38 PM
There should have been a lot of others go with Kwame
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on October 13, 2013, 05:29:58 PM
I don't question that Kwame Kilpatrick broke the law and destroyed the public trust.  But I don't believe that putting him in prison for 28 years made sense.  Kwame, I believe, should have been sentenced to 10 years maybe 15 at worse. 

While Kwame cost the Citizens of Michigan (yes, Michigan and not just Detroit as one must take into account revenue sharing that the City of Detroit recieves) over 9 million dollars, putting Mr. Kilpatrick in federal prison for 28 years will now cost between 812,000.00 (using a low of 29,000.00 a year) and 1,288,000.00 (using a high average of 45,000.00 a year). 

[url]http://www.vera.org/sites/default/files/resources/downloads/Price_of_Prisons_updated_version_072512.pdf[/url] ([url]http://www.vera.org/sites/default/files/resources/downloads/Price_of_Prisons_updated_version_072512.pdf[/url])

I doubt that Mr. Kilpatrick will be pardoned by anyone and have never read that he or his family is close with Pres. Obama.


I believe an elected official should be held to a higher degree of honesty than committing the number of racketeering charges he was found guilty of.  28 years, yea, ok, maybe a bit harsh......25 would have been an equally satisfying number for me.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on October 13, 2013, 06:06:09 PM
12 or 18 years is good for aging a scotch...

Not so sure about 28 years for a Kwame  ;-)
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on October 13, 2013, 06:10:25 PM
12 or 18 years is good for aging a scotch...

Not so sure about 28 years for a Kwame  ;-)

Good to read you Prof!  Hope all is well.

I still only see him aging for 2 or 3 more years....

Then he will be setup for his "comeback."
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: BigRedDog on October 13, 2013, 06:52:16 PM
Clinton let some real sleazebag out of jail and so did Bush

Don't forget Michigan's own President Ford (the only non elected President) when he pardoned Nixon.  Many people still say that it cost Ford the next election (to the peanut farmer) 8* 8* 8*
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on October 13, 2013, 07:32:15 PM
Yup.....that was a large group of new, young, and Nixon-bitter voters in that election.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 13, 2013, 07:57:49 PM
I see his dad is next up for a vacation at the taxpayers expense.....
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on November 11, 2013, 06:08:53 PM
Quote
Detroit — Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan said the people responsible for sentencing former Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick to 28 years in federal prison will “feel the weight of The Wrath of God for such evil done to a man who did not deserve anything like that!”

Farrakhan posted the comment on his Facebook page Friday during a question and answer session with followers.

“My brother will never fulfill that sentence,” Farrakhan wrote. “And those who have sentenced him will feel the weight of The Wrath of God for such evil done to a man who did not deserve anything like that! Watch and see what will come to those who sought his destruction, and seek his destruction.”

Kilpatrick, 43, is at the federal prison in Milan and awaiting a transfer to an undisclosed facility. He and his family have a long history with Farrakhan.



From The Detroit News: [url]http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20131111/METRO01/311110088#ixzz2kNfg5QVJ[/url] ([url]http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20131111/METRO01/311110088#ixzz2kNfg5QVJ[/url])


Wrath of God coming down on the Feds!

Stay tuned!

 ;D
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on November 11, 2013, 06:46:35 PM
Maybe they have a fed version of boot camp... 

They should have him go through it - and then say Oops... 
he violated his agreement by not making restitution payments  ;D
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on December 10, 2013, 07:22:33 PM
I figured this was the way the government was gonna put Carlita's wallet in a chastity belt.  Bet she divorces him soon and marries a retired hip-hop artist.

http://www.freep.com/article/20131210/NEWS01/312100053/Kwame-Kilpatrick-case-Judge-to-decide-restitution (http://www.freep.com/article/20131210/NEWS01/312100053/Kwame-Kilpatrick-case-Judge-to-decide-restitution)



A federal judge today ordered Kwame Kilpatrick to pay back the city of Detroit $4.6 million in restitution for all the crooked deals he pushed through when he was mayor so that he and his contractor friend, Bobby Ferguson, could get rich.

Kilpatrick also has to pay the IRS back $195,000 for unpaid taxes.

Kilpatrick will have to pay the restitution when he gets out of prison, though if the government finds any hidden assets in the meantime it can seize them. Kilpatrick, who is serving a 28-year prison sentence for public corruption, has long argued that he is broke.

When asked if the government expects it’ll ever see the money, Assistant U.S. Attorney Mark Chutkow said today: “We’ll just have to see.”

Kilpatrick’s lawyer, Harold Gurewitz, countered that the government hadn’t proven any real losses to the city of Detroit, arguing that Ferguson completed work he was contracted for. And there was no evidence to show that the city lost money because it would have paid less had it hired someone else to do certain jobs, he argued.

U.S. District Judge Nancy Edmunds saw things differently.

“There was a lot of testimony in this case that Mr. Ferguson received millions of dollars for work that wasn’t done at all,” Edmunds noted.

Kilpatrick and Ferguson were convicted in March on 34 counts combined for running what the government said was a criminal enterprise that included extortion, bribery and pay-to-play schemes. The pair were accused of fostering a climate of fear in the contracting community and forcing business owners to hire Ferguson, or risk losing out on deals. Kilpatrick got a 28-year prison sentence for his crimes; Ferguson got 21.

In restitution matters, the government has to prove that there is a victim. In this case, the victim was the city of Detroit, argued prosecutors, who said Ferguson made millions off contracts he won illegally, so therefore wasn’t entitled to any of the money. Any illegal contract awarded to Ferguson amounted to a loss to the city, argued prosecutors, who are seeking $6.2 million in restitution from Ferguson.

“The city was directly harmed by the defendant’s criminal conduct,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Linda Aouate said Tuesday.

Ferguson’s restitution hearing is scheduled for Jan. 9.

Government attorneys noted that it’s important for the government to get a restitution order so that should any assets turn up, the government can seize them –including assets that are discovered in the possession of a spouse. The former first lady, Carlita Kilpatrick, was never charged with any crimes tied to her husband and is now raising the couple’s sons in Texas.

But if the government finds that Carlita Kilpatrick comes into any money, and an investigation determines that that money was tied to her husband, the money can be seized to pay off his restitution, according to the IRS and forfeiture experts, who attended today’s hearing.

Kilpatrick, meanwhile, still owes more than $854,000 in restitution to the city of Detroit stemming from the text message scandal.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on December 10, 2013, 07:32:41 PM
You think the feds will have more success in collecting than the state?
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on December 10, 2013, 07:35:10 PM
If and only if Carlita is sitting her thick little hind end on the buried vault where Kwame may have hid that money.  Her first major expenditure will set off red flags all through State and Federal bureaucracy. 
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 10, 2013, 11:18:41 PM
You inferring that Carlita is a bubble butt per chance? ;D

Detroit isn't going to get one red cent.....  ever.

What the Fed needs to do is have a real hard look at Karmanos and Compuware
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on December 11, 2013, 06:11:53 AM
I think the Feds need to take a long look at Mama aka Ex-Congresswoman Kilpatrick.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on December 11, 2013, 06:19:31 AM
My guess is that his entire family and even friends will be watched for a very long time. 
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 11, 2013, 10:44:52 AM
"Turds of a feather, stink together"......... ;D
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on December 11, 2013, 06:04:35 PM
I'm sure the IRS has many triggers on the whole gang...

Oh wait aren't they also busy preparing to monitor Obamacare  8*
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on December 11, 2013, 07:33:17 PM
LOL, I just wanted to see the loop closed...or appear to be anyway.

I maybe wrong, but they have to have a fairly big stash tucked away somewhere.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on December 11, 2013, 07:38:07 PM
Just had a great idea for Detroit...

Install a Kwame Cam in his cell - and viewers could click in and watch for a donation to the City Pension Fund of one dollar.   
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on December 11, 2013, 07:44:55 PM
Hum.....a buck a day, hell yes I'd spend $365.  I'd install it right over a urinal for a good laugh each day.
Title: Kwame Kilpatrick 'helped' Detroit, free-Kwame effort claims
Post by: BigRedDog on January 29, 2014, 08:47:24 AM
What a surprise, his mother is the head of this effort to collect donations to help 'free' Kwame!!!

I'll have to check the donor list and see if 'the fuzz' is one of the top donors ;D ;D ;D

Here's the website to make your donation:  http://www.freedomjusticetrust.com/ (http://www.freedomjusticetrust.com/)

They do point out that you can give up to $14,000 per year without having to pay any gift tax...

I'm pretty sure I'll be staying 'way' under that amount ;) ;) ;)


Article: 
http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2014/01/kwame_kilpatrick_helped_detroi.html (http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2014/01/kwame_kilpatrick_helped_detroi.html)
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on January 29, 2014, 09:49:14 AM
LOL and I'm sure all the $$ will go straight to his debt owed to Michigan...

Maybe that would flush out the hidden stash...   tell him he can get out early if he pays off his fines
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 29, 2014, 11:05:58 AM
I see he's in transit from Milan to Oklahoma or somesuch.....
Title: Re: Kwame Kilpatrick 'helped' Detroit, free-Kwame effort claims
Post by: The Fuzz on January 29, 2014, 06:56:24 PM
What a surprise, his mother is the head of this effort to collect donations to help 'free' Kwame!!!

I'll have to check the donor list and see if 'the fuzz' is one of the top donors ;D ;D ;D

Here's the website to make your donation:  [url]http://www.freedomjusticetrust.com/[/url] ([url]http://www.freedomjusticetrust.com/[/url])

They do point out that you can give up to $14,000 per year without having to pay any gift tax...

I'm pretty sure I'll be staying 'way' under that amount ;) ;) ;)


Article: 
[url]http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2014/01/kwame_kilpatrick_helped_detroi.html[/url] ([url]http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2014/01/kwame_kilpatrick_helped_detroi.html[/url])


I'm tempted to send in a bad check, I would pay the overdraft fee and just grin.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on January 29, 2014, 07:09:02 PM
Maybe I should endorse that check I got from the Eastern Bloc for the car I was selling on Ebay and send it to Kwame?

 8*
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 29, 2014, 08:56:35 PM
Drill a hole in a penny and send it in.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on September 04, 2014, 12:42:58 PM
Kilpatrick asks appeals court to vacate his conviction

Robert Snell
The Detroit News
Detroit — Former Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick asked a federal appeals court to vacate his conviction late Wednesday and order a new trial — nearly one year after he was sentenced to 28 years in prison, one of the longest prison sentences ever handed down to a corrupt politician.

Defense lawyer Harold Gurewitz filed the 80-page appeal with the U.S. 6th Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati. The appeal largely revives arguments Kilpatrick made during the nearly six-month trial that two of his defense lawyers had a conflict of interest regarding a former client, Detroit towing titan Gasper Fiore, a one-time government witness.

Kilpatrick also said U.S. District Judge Nancy Edmunds erred by allowing lay opinion testimony from federal agents and that an order for him to pay the Internal Revenue Service and Detroit Water and Sewerage Department more than $4.5 million was not authorized by federal law.

“Kilpatrick was denied a fair trial because the court allowed the two case agents to testify 23 times and ‘spoon feed’ the jury the prosecution theory of the case based on the agents’ review of all the text messages, recorded calls and documents, the jury never had the opportunity to review on their own and to use to draw their own conclusions,” Gurewitz wrote.


Kilpatrick, 44, was found guilty of 24 counts in March 2013, including racketeering conspiracy. He is serving the sentence in an Oklahoma medium-security prison and is scheduled to be released Aug. 1, 2037.

At sentencing, the judge castigated him for living “larger than life” on millions of dollars he stole after creating a “corrosive pay-to-play” system in city hall.

“I hope that the sentence that I'm about to impose will give that message, that we're demanding accountability and transparency in our government,” Edmunds said. “That where there has been corruption, there will be no more. We are done.”

Even though he admitted he “really messed up,” Kilpatrick denied the most damning charges: That he operated a complex racketeering enterprise centered on lining the pockets of himself and contractor Bobby Ferguson. Though prosecutors estimated the loss at $9.6 million, Edmunds put the loss at a more conservative $4.6 million.

Before being sentenced, Kilpatrick apologized for his behavior in general and said he wasn't a thief.

“I've never done that, your honor,” Kilpatrick said.



From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140904/METRO01/309040070#ixzz3CMkVZ4UP (http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140904/METRO01/309040070#ixzz3CMkVZ4UP)

Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on September 04, 2014, 04:44:30 PM
Rot in Hell, SOB!
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: blue2 on September 04, 2014, 04:55:33 PM
I think they ought to let him out of jail and work a garbage truck for Detroit until he dies.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on August 15, 2015, 04:39:52 PM
Never want to miss a Kwame Update ;)

Curious why they would revisit his restitution
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although his restitution will be revisited


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Court affirms conviction, long sentence for Detroit ex-mayor
DETROIT (AP) - An appeals court on Friday upheld the corruption conviction and 28-year prison sentence of former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, who was found guilty of two dozen crimes from tax evasion to bribery.

Kilpatrick's appeal centered on an alleged conflict among his trial attorneys, among other very technical reasons. But a three-judge panel at the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals found no reason to upset the outcome, although his restitution will be revisited.

After months of trial, a jury in 2013 found that Kilpatrick rigged contracts, took bribes and committed other corrupt acts, often with contractor Bobby Ferguson, who got lucrative city work.

The government called it the "Kilpatrick enterprise," a scheme to shake down contractors and reward allies. Kilpatrick was doomed by his own text messages, which revealed efforts to fix deals for Ferguson, an excavator.

Agents who pored over bank accounts and credit cards said Kilpatrick spent $840,000 beyond his salary during his time at city hall, from 2002 to fall 2008. Defense attorneys tried to portray the money as generous gifts from political supporters who opened their wallets for birthdays or holidays.

"I'm ready to go so the city can move on," Kilpatrick had said at his sentencing, expressing sorrow for letting down his hometown but denying that he ever stole from the citizens of Detroit.

Kilpatrick, 45, the son of former U.S. Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, is at a federal prison in Oklahoma. The appeals court also affirmed Ferguson's conviction and 21-year prison sentence.


http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/aug/14/court-affirms-conviction-long-sentence-for/?sharper-focus (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/aug/14/court-affirms-conviction-long-sentence-for/?sharper-focus)
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: blue2 on August 15, 2015, 07:21:56 PM
TV special on Kwame fri Aug 21 at 9PM.
American Greed.  The program is on various nights but fri starting at 7 there are 4 different prograns.
It's on CNBCHD  CH 355 Directv.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on August 16, 2015, 08:53:51 AM
That's some Must See TV.......gotta call home and get that recorded for me so I can let my temper rise again by the reminder of corruption in our own back yard.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 16, 2015, 09:26:31 AM
Just another turd now living on the taxpayers dime.....

He got caught, Obama hasn't.....yet.  Hillary.....maybe.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on August 16, 2015, 09:33:01 AM
Yes, perhaps......but this is more of a local flavor story to me.  I watched the mans lifestyle for years before charges were brought up by the Feds and always wondered how long it would be before the corruption charges would come about.

Him and thatbitch wife of his got what they deserved for doing what they did to the entire region, and especially the citizens of Detroit!
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 16, 2015, 09:51:07 AM
Yes, perhaps......but this is more of a local flavor story to me.  I watched the mans lifestyle for years before charges were brought up by the Feds and always wondered how long it would be before the corruption charges would come about.

Him and thatbitch wife of his got what they deserved for doing what they did to the entire region, and especially the citizens of Detroit!

If Kwame was released and ran for Mayor again (in Deeetroit), he'd get elected.  Thats how stoooooopid the residents are up there.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on August 16, 2015, 09:55:48 AM
If Kwame was released and ran for Mayor again (in Deeetroit), he'd get elected.  Thats how stoooooopid the residents are up there.

For sure.

They just set him up for his comeback!

 ;)
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on August 16, 2015, 10:02:20 AM
If Kwame was released and ran for Mayor again (in Deeetroit), he'd get elected.  Thats how stoooooopid the residents are up there.

For sure.

They just set him up for his comeback!

 ;)

Not a factor in justifying what he did to them as far as I am concerned.  Taking advantage of people of lesser intellect does not justify his actions as an elected official.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on August 16, 2015, 10:04:26 AM
Not a factor in justifying what he did to them as far as I am concerned.  Taking advantage of people of lesser intellect does not justify his actions as an elected official.

I totally agree.

He is a con artist, pure and simple.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: CatLady on August 16, 2015, 12:39:06 PM
After seeing what a real mayor (Duggan) is capable of doing for the City of Detroit, I seriously doubt Kwame would be elected again. 
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 16, 2015, 12:42:35 PM
One has to wonder what ole Kwame will be like in 27 years?  Probably look like Bill Cosby.....lol
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on August 16, 2015, 12:50:54 PM
One has to wonder what ole Kwame will be like in 27 years?  Probably look like Bill Cosby.....lol

I'm thinking more like Jabba the Hut
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on August 16, 2015, 12:56:54 PM
One has to wonder what ole Kwame will be like in 27 years?  Probably look like Bill Cosby.....lol
 

I hope a one word description.............Miserable!
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on August 16, 2015, 01:20:32 PM
I doubt any more companies offer him jobs now that he doesn't have any family members in Congress.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on August 16, 2015, 01:24:58 PM
The prominent folks in town pretty well paid him off to leave, hope it included not to come back too!
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 16, 2015, 10:00:50 PM
You mean the honorable and upstanding John Karmanos (Compuware) bought him off...  I'll be flabergasted.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on August 17, 2015, 06:44:40 AM
You mean the honorable and upstanding John Karmanos (Compuware) bought him off...  I'll be flabergasted.

I still think that was a payoff to Mommy who was in Congress, and who coincidentally sat on the committee who had a bunch of authority over the Government Mandate of all of our Medical Records being computerized - which coincidentally was a business that Compuware was involved in.

Otherwise it was just another coincidence - but I don't believe in those.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 17, 2015, 12:36:54 PM
I still think that was a payoff to Mommy who was in Congress, and who coincidentally sat on the committee who had a bunch of authority over the Government Mandate of all of our Medical Records being computerized - which coincidentally was a business that Compuware was involved in.

Otherwise it was just another coincidence - but I don't believe in those.

Wasn't Karmanos directly responsible for Kilpatrick's cushy job in Texas as a 'salesman' for compuware where he never sold a thing but had a nice upscale home and a fat salary?

If that turd moved in next to me, I'd move the hell out.........

I always wonder what Karmanos got in return, I'm sure it wasn't above board either....
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on August 17, 2015, 01:05:52 PM
Wasn't Karmanos directly responsible for Kilpatrick's cushy job in Texas as a 'salesman' for compuware where he never sold a thing but had a nice upscale home and a fat salary?

If that turd moved in next to me, I'd move the hell out.........

I always wonder what Karmanos got in return, I'm sure it wasn't above board either....

I don't know.  Ask Kwame's Mommy what she had to give up.

I'm sure the American Taxpayer footed the bill.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 17, 2015, 03:16:29 PM
Not all that complex to figure out.  Kwame worked for Compuserve (Karmanos) in Dallas, Texas' lived large in an upscale suburban home and was paid a nice salary..... but never sold a damn thing (and that was in the Free Press btw).
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on August 18, 2015, 06:36:24 AM
Not all that complex to figure out.  Kwame worked for Compuserve (Karmanos) in Dallas, Texas' lived large in an upscale suburban home and was paid a nice salary..... but never sold a damn thing (and that was in the Free Press btw).

Nope.

And Mommy finally lost her job in Congress - which was long overdue.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on August 18, 2015, 08:12:06 AM
Surprised that they voted her out - but they keep putting Conyers in...   
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on November 20, 2015, 10:21:20 AM
LOL  former mayor and also former felon in Providence RI  returns for his picture hanging at City hall....

Wonder if Kwame will do something similar someday... 

This guy kept getting re-elected as well


'I've Been Framed' Felon Ex-Mayor Quips at Portrait Reveal
http://abcnews.go.com/Weird/wireStory/ive-framed-felon-mayor-quips-portrait-reveal-35321854 (http://abcnews.go.com/Weird/wireStory/ive-framed-felon-mayor-quips-portrait-reveal-35321854)
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 22, 2015, 02:25:01 PM
Nope.

And Mommy finally lost her job in Congress - which was long overdue.

I sometimes wonder if Karmanos is bankrolling the Kilpartic immediate family.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on November 22, 2015, 05:30:35 PM
I sometimes wonder if Karmanos is bankrolling the Kilpartic immediate family.
I'm sure there's plenty of   "shoe" cash lying around many places the Feds didn't find...
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on October 31, 2016, 11:51:07 PM
I see there's a group petitioning for Obama to Pardon him... 

I would bet Hillary gets one first but you never know...
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on November 01, 2016, 10:14:46 AM
I see there's a group petitioning for Obama to Pardon him... 

I would bet Hillary gets one first but you never know...

It mystifies me that there are a sufficient number of people to create a "group" that truly believes this man deserves a pardon at this point in time.

I may have a thought that the sentence was "heavy", but not yet deserving of a release. 
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: blue2 on November 01, 2016, 10:37:49 AM
But he's special.  He's a politician.  They are all criminals in one way or another.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on November 01, 2016, 11:39:52 AM
I hear ya, don't disagree.  I was one of his biggest critics and wanted to see him punished to the fullest extent, and was pleased as punch when his sentence got handed down.

I think the man has been destroyed (provided he doesn't move back to Detroit where he would possibly be re-elected), and was made an example of because he was a politician.

I wouldn't want to see him pardoned yet, but full term of the sentence may be a different story now.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 01, 2016, 12:31:24 PM
He'll come slithering back to the Motor.  All his cronies are incarcerated here and/or still on the take.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on November 01, 2016, 08:02:26 PM
Hillary and Bill make the Kilpatrick's look like SAINTS.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: blue2 on November 01, 2016, 08:12:55 PM
And again the Dems don't care
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on November 01, 2016, 08:16:10 PM
Dems brought us the Flint water crisis - then blamed Snyder for their scheme.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on July 05, 2017, 02:22:18 PM
I enjoy justice served against this man like I do no other,,,,,,Monica comes to mind on the lady's side.

Rot MF!


http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2017/07/05/kilpatrick-racketeering-conviction-appeal/103438690/ (http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2017/07/05/kilpatrick-racketeering-conviction-appeal/103438690/)
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on July 05, 2017, 04:01:36 PM
Apparentley his "friends" no longer care to support him...  $ 0.98  in his account...
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: blue2 on July 05, 2017, 08:14:01 PM
Did Kwamme's buddy ever go to jail. Don't remember his name.  Kwamme made every contractor that did business with Detroit write him in the contracts. He never did anything but collected $10million.   Kwamme probably got most of that...
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on July 05, 2017, 08:22:50 PM
Apparentley his "friends" no longer care to support him...  $ 0.98  in his account...

I think it might have more to do with his mommy not having her gig anymore.

No need to funnel money through JR.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: The Fuzz on July 14, 2017, 12:09:05 PM
Poor Kwame, he still is trying to hit the ball over the fence.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2017/07/13/kilpatrick-tried-beat-lawyer/103678560/ (http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2017/07/13/kilpatrick-tried-beat-lawyer/103678560/)!

Rot MF, Rot
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on July 14, 2017, 12:52:49 PM
Poor Kwame, he still is trying to hit the ball over the fence.

[url]http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2017/07/13/kilpatrick-tried-beat-lawyer/103678560/[/url] ([url]http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2017/07/13/kilpatrick-tried-beat-lawyer/103678560/[/url])!

Rot MF, Rot

I would like to see him in one of those "Oz" type prisons and see how he would make it instead of club fed... 
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: FritzTheKat on July 14, 2017, 04:22:53 PM
Pretty ironic,

White Boy Rick might get out...
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on July 14, 2017, 06:49:05 PM
Pretty ironic,

White Boy Rick might get out...
...  to go serve time in Florida
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Professor H on June 13, 2018, 11:47:08 AM
I see Kwame is joining the #me too   when it comes to asking for pardon  :) 

too bad he's a Democrat who ruined a city - and his chances are about the same as Hillary being president
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on June 05, 2019, 07:38:23 PM
It looks like Kwame is trying to brown nose his way to Trump commuting his sentence.

I think he would have had a better chance with Hillary.

https://www.mlive.com/news/2019/06/report-kwame-kilpatrick-again-asks-president-trump-to-commute-his-sentence.html (https://www.mlive.com/news/2019/06/report-kwame-kilpatrick-again-asks-president-trump-to-commute-his-sentence.html)
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 05, 2019, 09:18:15 PM
His nose is perpetually brown.... ;D
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: John Kopke on June 08, 2019, 08:49:48 PM
Kwame was guilty as sin. He moved too fast. Unlike Mayor Coleman Young, he didn't establish a bond with the folks as he was padding his pockets, he went straight for the cash. When Kwame was charged, he got obligatory support from the black community, but it wasn't vociferous like it was for Coleman. That's why Coleman died of old age, and Kwame is doing 28 years in prison.   
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 08, 2019, 09:20:11 PM
28 is too short.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: Monroe Native on June 08, 2019, 10:33:44 PM
28 is too short.

I'm still amazed his mommy couldn't get him a pardon from Barry.
Title: Re: Kwame update
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 09, 2019, 06:26:49 AM
I was too.