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Title: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on October 27, 2014, 09:23:45 PM
We have a thread for business closings...  here's one for the opposite.

After all isn't the economy rebounding  ;D

I hear someone bought the United Furniture Building on Telegraph - will be interesting to see what goes in that location.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on October 27, 2014, 11:05:04 PM
Wow that should to make Jack ecstatic. I'll have to ask him next time I see him.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 28, 2014, 08:31:54 AM
We have a thread for business closings...  here's one for the opposite.

After all isn't the economy rebounding  ;D

I hear someone bought the United Furniture Building on Telegraph - will be interesting to see what goes in that location.

I looked on the Register of Deeds website and that doesn't show any sale 'yet'...  depending on their intended use they may have to get approval from the city first...   I'm guessing it won't be a marijuana dispensary though ;D ;D ;D

As far as having a thread for business openings...   we have the one for the 'six new restaurants' and that seems to have been the kiss of death for them :o :o :o
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on October 28, 2014, 09:16:55 AM
My wife spoke with Jack - its another furniture store...   she can't recall the name but they have lots of stores.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 28, 2014, 09:32:17 AM
My wife spoke with Jack - its another furniture store...   she can't recall the name but they have lots of stores.

I'm not sure exactly how the city code on occupancy is written but Jack has been closed so long now that even 'another' furniture store may have to get approval.  I would think that would be an excellent use and I'm sure as the economy recovers we'll see the void in the market that United's closing has left.  I'll try to remember to watch the RofD for a recording.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Billy on October 28, 2014, 09:45:13 AM
I could see a Gardner White.

I think the closest one is at Telegraph and 94. I'm not aware of one in Toledo.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on October 28, 2014, 10:05:32 AM
A new Diner opened in Bedford called Mules Diner.  Pretty much on the corner of Sterns and Jackman in the complex where you'll find Worleys survival food and stuff.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 28, 2014, 10:32:21 AM
We could use on of those....  Oriental massage venue's in Monroe or close by.... ;D

For those of us with sore backs.....
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on October 28, 2014, 10:46:18 AM
We could use on of those....  Oriental massage venue's in Monroe or close by.... ;D

For those of us with sore backs.....
Flip
You are such  a biased discriminating person !!!

What about people with sore fronts ??

Mav
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on October 28, 2014, 12:53:24 PM
Soon as the puritans in office get removed... 

I can envision a revitalization plan -
for downtown that may include several types of vices  ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 28, 2014, 01:34:57 PM
Flip
You are such  a biased discriminating person !!!

What about people with sore fronts ??

Mav

Was attempting to be nondiscriminatory.... ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on October 28, 2014, 02:17:49 PM
Soon as the puritans in office get removed... 

I can envision a revitalization plan -
for downtown that may include several types of vices  ;)

I thought you would have learned by now that not all of them are puritans, some have slept with young adults and participated in adulterous affairs of the groin.  After all, time does not make it go away and we know those people never, ever repent and change.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on October 29, 2014, 08:20:28 AM
Biggby Coffee is coming back to Monroe, in part of the old Blockbuster location on Telegraph.   There's been construction in there for a couple weeks and they put up the sign on Monday.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 31, 2014, 06:54:05 PM
A new Diner opened in Bedford called Mules Diner.  Pretty much on the corner of Sterns and Jackman in the complex where you'll find Worleys survival food and stuff.

There was a nice article with photo on the business page in the paper Wednesday.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on October 31, 2014, 07:54:23 PM
I hope she does well.  We became friends when she worked at American Table.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on November 02, 2014, 12:22:20 AM
My wife spoke with Jack - its another furniture store...   she can't recall the name but they have lots of stores.

Sign out front says coming soon American Freight.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 02, 2014, 01:35:30 AM
Sounds like........  a trucking company
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on November 02, 2014, 05:56:08 AM
A 4 second google seach shows it as a furniture company.  I had never heard of them before either, but they appear to be well established in the region.

http://www.americanfreight.us/ (http://www.americanfreight.us/)

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 02, 2014, 07:50:01 AM
Here's the wiki page on them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Freight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Freight)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on November 02, 2014, 12:09:09 PM
I like the fact that there stuff is "American" made...     and it sounds like the warehouse style of presentation will fit with this building.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: naomi43 on November 02, 2014, 02:33:09 PM
Think thats the commercial on the Detroit channels,
where the guy talks real fast and they have bundles
of furniture ( couch love seat etc)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 02, 2014, 08:22:31 PM
Speaking of furniture....  If anyone needs a casket let me know.  The people I work for own a casket company in Ohio that specializes in all wood, furniture grade caskets.  I've seen them, really sharp...for a casket.

It's called Care Casket Company.....
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on November 02, 2014, 08:24:51 PM
Shouldn't they make Steel Caskets?

I just need a little box to put the ashes in till someone sneaks them where I want them to dump them.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 02, 2014, 10:50:13 PM
Shouldn't they make Steel Caskets?

I just need a little box to put the ashes in till someone sneaks them where I want them to dump them.

They make all wood caskets so you can gt roasted in style....

They make wooden urns too.....

I hauled a rolloff full of cherry trunks down there last fall.....
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Mayonnaise on November 02, 2014, 10:58:11 PM
Speaking of furniture....  If anyone needs a casket let me know.  The people I work for own a casket company in Ohio that specializes in all wood, furniture grade caskets.  I've seen them, really sharp...for a casket.

It's called Care Casket Company.....
I told my wife if I ever got a hearse, I wanted a casket to put in it. I was going to convert it into a cooler. Would anyone like a Cold One? :D ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on November 02, 2014, 11:00:05 PM
Spend eternity with a woody?  8*
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: livewire on November 03, 2014, 08:02:51 AM
Speaking of furniture....  If anyone needs a casket let me know.  The people I work for own a casket company in Ohio that specializes in all wood, furniture grade caskets.  I've seen them, really sharp...for a casket.

It's called Care Casket Company.....

I've seen some of these...  BEAUTIFUL workmanship!!!  And EXPENSIVE!!!  Lol

I just can't see it, I guess.  Spend all that money on a fancy box that some people might see for a day or two, then gets buried in the ground forever.  Stick me in a pine box when I'm dead.  LMAO!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 03, 2014, 08:19:56 AM
I've seen some of these...  BEAUTIFUL workmanship!!!  And EXPENSIVE!!!  Lol

I just can't see it, I guess.  Spend all that money on a fancy box that some people might see for a day or two, then gets buried in the ground forever.  Stick me in a pine box when I'm dead.  LMAO!


www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwU-ftZfc04 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwU-ftZfc04#)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 03, 2014, 08:28:19 AM
I'm not sure exactly how the city code on occupancy is written but Jack has been closed so long now that even 'another' furniture store may have to get approval.  I would think that would be an excellent use and I'm sure as the economy recovers we'll see the void in the market that United's closing has left.  I'll try to remember to watch the RofD for a recording.

Just remembered to look at the register of deeds site and the sale was 'recorded' (can't tell when it actually closed on the 'free' public site) on Oct 28th.  Sale price of $1,111,000.00...   what a strange figure!!!  Does anyone remember what they were originally asking for the property? Or what the property was assessed at?   Buyer is showing as 'Telegraph 630 LLC' rather than the furniture company itself...  typical today for various reasons!!!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 03, 2014, 11:53:55 AM
I've seen some of these...  BEAUTIFUL workmanship!!!  And EXPENSIVE!!!  Lol

I just can't see it, I guess.  Spend all that money on a fancy box that some people might see for a day or two, then gets buried in the ground forever.  Stick me in a pine box when I'm dead.  LMAO!

.........ashes to ashes, dust to dust, if it weren't for women, our peters would rust...... :o
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on November 03, 2014, 12:09:36 PM
Just remembered to look at the register of deeds site and the sale was 'recorded' (can't tell when it actually closed on the 'free' public site) on Oct 28th.  Sale price of $1,111,000.00...   what a strange figure!!!  Does anyone remember what they were originally asking for the property? Or what the property was assessed at?   Buyer is showing as 'Telegraph 630 LLC' rather than the furniture company itself...  typical today for various reasons!!!

Was that for both the car wash that the old furniture building or only the furniture building?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on November 03, 2014, 05:57:30 PM
I had heard the 1.2 mil price - just for the furniture store
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 13, 2014, 07:28:23 AM
Here's the 'official' news release on the new furniture business:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/13/new-furniture-store-opening-monroe/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/13/new-furniture-store-opening-monroe/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on November 28, 2014, 09:56:47 AM
Not sure if it's considered a new business... 

An Irish pub has opened downtown - called Glenn's

Located in the old Pete's Eatmore/Rourke's/ location.
SW corner of the intersection of Front and Macomb

I stopped in and met the owners Wed Night after we did our Thanksgiving dinner for the community
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/27/monroe-firefighters-serve-thanksgiving-eve-dinner-/?news (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/27/monroe-firefighters-serve-thanksgiving-eve-dinner-/?news)

The owners just moved into town - and are from Downriver area
They plan to offer Irish dishes as they get settled in the change over.

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 28, 2014, 10:06:31 AM
Not sure if it's considered a new business... 

An Irish pub has opened downtown - called Glenn's

Located in the old Pete's Eatmore/Rourke's/ location.
SW corner of the intersection of Front and Macomb

I stopped in and met the owners Wed Night after we did our Thanksgiving dinner for the community
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/27/monroe-firefighters-serve-thanksgiving-eve-dinner-/?news[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/nov/27/monroe-firefighters-serve-thanksgiving-eve-dinner-/?news[/url])

The owners just moved into town - and are from Downriver area
They plan to offer Irish dishes as they get settled in the change over.


There was an article in the paper one night...  probably Wednesday business page a week ago...  on their business!!!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on December 20, 2014, 12:24:26 AM
Just noticed on W Front before the Tracks coming from Telegraph - next to the old lumber yard - there was what appeared to be a restaurant...   

How on earth did they do it without putting up a sign "Opening Soon"   ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: rwwjr on December 20, 2014, 06:42:14 AM
R Diner is opening Dec 30!  Finally!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 20, 2014, 08:36:58 PM
R Diner is opening Dec 30!  Finally!

What happened to "Mid December?"

I'll believe it when I see it!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 21, 2014, 06:45:52 AM
Just noticed on W Front before the Tracks coming from Telegraph - next to the old lumber yard - there was what appeared to be a restaurant...   

How on earth did they do it without putting up a sign "Opening Soon"   ;D

There's been a little soup and sandwich place in there for a couple of years now.  If you're not looking for their little sign board out front it's hard to miss. 

If there's something else 'new' in there I've missed it too ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 21, 2014, 06:54:01 AM
Here's another one that flew in under my radar although I'm usually on Telegraph and not N. Monroe when I'm in that area.

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/18/monroe-mans-restaurant-mixes-unique-traditional/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/dec/18/monroe-mans-restaurant-mixes-unique-traditional/)

I remember Jeff from his early 'dayz at Trapperz' (although it was technically still Trappers back then)...

great guy with a great attitude and work ethic 8) 8) 8)

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on December 21, 2014, 10:44:14 AM
There's been a little soup and sandwich place in there for a couple of years now.  If you're not looking for their little sign board out front it's hard to miss. 

If there's something else 'new' in there I've missed it too ;) ;) ;)
No sign board - but I was waiting for a train and happened to look that way...

I think they need some better signage!, as that building was something I associated with one of the oil companies in the past I believe -
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 21, 2014, 11:11:22 AM
No sign board - but I was waiting for a train and happened to look that way...

I think they need some better signage!, as that building was something I associated with one of the oil companies in the past I believe -


Yes, that's the building and they've been there almost two years now.  I have to admit we've intended to stop in several times but still haven't made it.  Usually it's a choice between there and Monroe's Original and MO wins ;D ;D ;D

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2013/apr/03/restaurant-opens-w-front-st/?news (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2013/apr/03/restaurant-opens-w-front-st/?news)

http://www.joysmonroe.com/ (http://www.joysmonroe.com/)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on January 13, 2015, 08:53:21 AM
Stopped in at the Sandwich shop  (Joys of Monroe) on W Front.

I had a build your own sandwich - and it was like the kind I would make!

They have a variety and soups - and carryout.   I'd go back.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 13, 2015, 09:33:01 AM
Stopped in at the Sandwich shop  (Joys of Monroe) on W Front.

I had a build your own sandwich - and it was like the kind I would make!

They have a variety and soups - and carryout.   I'd go back.

We keep wanting to get in there and for whatever reason seems like we always miss out! 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Ghost Writer on January 13, 2015, 10:46:35 AM
I've had Joy's cater several lunches (12 to 13 orders) and they've always done an excellent job for me. I would highly recommend them.  (They don't deliver, but their food is very good.)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on February 05, 2015, 08:55:25 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/feb/05/monroe-starbucks-could-begin-construction-summer/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/feb/05/monroe-starbucks-could-begin-construction-summer/)

I guess gas stations and coffee places are a start for new businesses... 

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on February 05, 2015, 09:00:29 AM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/feb/05/monroe-starbucks-could-begin-construction-summer/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/feb/05/monroe-starbucks-could-begin-construction-summer/[/url])

I guess gas stations and coffee places are a start for new businesses...


Interesting timing...  my son and I drove by their site last week on the way to Flat Rock...  I told him it was going to be a Starbucks but you could see that they haven't done a thing except put up a 'SOLD' sign!!!

He laughed and said he's not sure Monroe is 'Yuppie' enough for a Starbucks ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on February 05, 2015, 10:15:11 PM
Isn't there at least two other coffee places nearby?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Zdart on February 05, 2015, 10:50:03 PM
IMHO, Tim Horton's is much better coffee than Starbuck's...I've tried Starbuck's, and did not care for it. But, then again, there are folks out there that like the "McCafe"....go figure...
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on February 06, 2015, 05:54:11 AM
What's wrong with McCafe?   ;) ;D

I agree about Horton's dark roast coffees over Starbucks........I've always thought they were over rated and over priced.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: MarissaMGB on February 06, 2015, 07:53:40 AM
Would be cool if that Qdoba Mexican Grill opens in the old Quatro restaurant
like the paper says, that building has sat vacant for quite a while (like a lot of
them around town)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: MarissaMGB on February 06, 2015, 08:22:48 AM
Oh I see now they are going to replace it with a strip mall,
with the Mexican grill, a sub shop and some thing else. GOOD
I like to see new stuff in this town.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on February 06, 2015, 09:16:21 AM
So the Quatro corner is going to be a mini strip mall?

I know the issues early on with Frenchtown were they couldn't remodel and keep the same location (set back from road not grandfathered) - and then because they closed it had to meet codes to reopen -   Same thing happened to a bar just north of there that closed to remodel...   (Apparently no one researches before they act)...   

It's a prime location if they have access on both roads but if they are forced to move to the back corner of the lot - the road access will be put closer to the corners and that won't be good.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on February 06, 2015, 10:01:47 AM
So the Quatro corner is going to be a mini strip mall?

I know the issues early on with Frenchtown were they couldn't remodel and keep the same location (set back from road not grandfathered) - and then because they closed it had to meet codes to reopen -   Same thing happened to a bar just north of there that closed to remodel...   (Apparently no one researches before they act)...   

It's a prime location if they have access on both roads but if they are forced to move to the back corner of the lot - the road access will be put closer to the corners and that won't be good.

I think someone should file a lawsuit to keep them from tearing that building down under some historic preservation clause...

That was Sallee's Lounge...

I'm sure more than a few of Monroe's most outstanding young men 'came of age' on that corner ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Debimark on February 06, 2015, 10:20:22 AM
I also heard that there used to be a collection of Rembrandt paintings there.........as I was told...~ahem~ by people much older than me.
Title: Whole Foods opening new store in ...
Post by: BigRedDog on February 12, 2015, 06:20:02 AM
Toledo!!!

For those of us in South County it's still better than A2 or Downriver!

It will be at Secor Rd. and Executive Parkway.

http://www.13abc.com/story/28090153/whole-foods-market-to-open-in-toledo (http://www.13abc.com/story/28090153/whole-foods-market-to-open-in-toledo)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on February 12, 2015, 09:35:38 AM
BRD,  Yes it is.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on February 12, 2015, 09:45:40 AM
I also heard that there used to be a collection of Rembrandt paintings there.........as I was told...~ahem~ by people much older than me.

I'm guessing a lot of the customers there were NOT looking at the paintings although I'm sure they did add to the 'ambiance' of the place!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on February 12, 2015, 10:41:04 AM
Wondering if that's going in the former Foodtown location next to Home Depot or if its a sub-lease of the Sears building as Sears has done numerous other places trying to raise cash?   Can't think of any other building in that area that's very big and it says they signed a lease, not that they are building.   Either building would need a major renovation.   Can't imagine Sears has taken good care of their and the Foodtown has been vacant for a very long time.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on February 12, 2015, 12:23:21 PM
Wondering if that's going in the former Foodtown location next to Home Depot or if its a sub-lease of the Sears building as Sears has done numerous other places trying to raise cash?   Can't think of any other building in that area that's very big and it says they signed a lease, not that they are building.   Either building would need a major renovation.   Can't imagine Sears has taken good care of their and the Foodtown has been vacant for a very long time.

I read a few of the Toledo news stations reports and no one was anymore specific on the location.  Hopefully there will be more details soon.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on February 13, 2015, 10:15:29 AM
Wondering if that's going in the former Foodtown location next to Home Depot or if its a sub-lease of the Sears building as Sears has done numerous other places trying to raise cash?   Can't think of any other building in that area that's very big and it says they signed a lease, not that they are building.   Either building would need a major renovation.   Can't imagine Sears has taken good care of their and the Foodtown has been vacant for a very long time.

The link at 13ABC I first posted has been revised to give more details on the exact location...   apparently you weren't the only one wondering ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on February 13, 2015, 10:30:21 AM
Yep...new building on the old movie theater site.   Probably good.   That way someone can bulldoze Sears after that ship sinks.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Mayonnaise on March 28, 2015, 01:29:30 PM
I noticed that the dollar store across from Nick & Nino's has re-opened today.
The "Store Closing" sign is still in the window.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on April 03, 2015, 08:36:42 AM
Ann Arbor Welding Supply is opening a store on M50 in the former Franks Nursery site.   The local owner of the site is looking to turn it into a small industrial/commercial development.   Sounds like he's committed to the area and has a track record of success so maybe he'll make something of it.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: MarissaMGB on April 03, 2015, 09:33:55 AM
Yea that dollar store across from Nick and Ninos has JUNK!! LOL
and the owner is a jerk.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on April 28, 2015, 08:06:49 AM
Mall is advertising that Hallmark is reopening (previous franchisee had gone out of business at numerous locations) plus an art gallery of some sort.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on May 05, 2015, 07:56:46 AM
Internet rumor (supported by a job posting by Michigan Works! and construction at the site) is that White Castle closed to become Dunkin Donuts.   Makes complete sense for those on the south side of town who will save a good 100' drive to Tim Hortons.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on May 05, 2015, 08:13:43 AM

I wonder who came up with the business plan/model?   
Some people are just mad a their money it seems.


I can hear the conversation now...   hey forget marketing and research - lets  just follow the Burger King model and build a similar restaurant next to an established one.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: MarissaMGB on May 05, 2015, 08:46:31 AM
Do we really need another coffee place in this town?
and we had Dunkin Donuts here before, over by Taco
Bell on that corner and down in the Sunoco gas station,
STUPID.....well maybe not....donuts do sound good :D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on May 05, 2015, 09:28:41 AM
luckily for me i get heart burn from donuts anymore.  Must be the grease they fry them in.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 05, 2015, 01:31:05 PM
luckily for me i get heart burn from donuts anymore.  Must be the grease they fry them in.

I bet.  Probably atributable to not changing the oil and/or filtering it properly though no Tin Horton's or Dunkin Doughnuts cook their own frycakes.  They are all done in a central commisary and shipped in, in the early morning.  Same with Sno-White.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on May 05, 2015, 06:18:54 PM
Do we really need another coffee place in this town?
and we had Dunkin Donuts here before, over by Taco
Bell on that corner and down in the Sunoco gas station,
STUPID.....well maybe not....donuts do sound good :D

Gotta love capitalism at its finest!  Little bit of competition is good for the business soul; although I seldom ever stop at either (except for the pastries).  I will miss White Castle though......love those nasty little things!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on May 05, 2015, 06:56:03 PM
Gotta love capitalism at its finest!  Little bit of competition is good for the business soul; although I seldom ever stop at either (except for the pastries).  I will miss White Castle though......love those nasty little things!

Greatest laxatives in the world......  and tasty too.

Buy em by the sack full - but not too often.

Apparently not often enough!

 ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on May 05, 2015, 07:00:41 PM
I am fortunate considering the age of my digestive system and abused the livingshit out of it that I can still eat them.  I catch myself when working out of home office to arrange my customer meetings such that I can get 6 to go and a Diet Coke. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on May 05, 2015, 07:16:38 PM
My technicians have a nasty habit of buying a 100 pack and bringing them in for breakfast on "special" occasions.

Those are split up among.....  not so many people, and I have been known to help out.

Its an entertaining and aromatic day around the office, especially when they can entice lots of us front office types into eating them.

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 05, 2015, 07:33:41 PM
I was by there in the rain this morning... 

there was a crew up on ladders working in the area where the signs had been...

I'm curious if the 'castle' roof line will remain ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on May 06, 2015, 07:30:48 AM
and we had Dunkin Donuts here before, over by Taco
Bell on that corner and down in the Sunoco gas station,

There's a lot of those old Dunkin locations like the one by Taco Bell around SE Michigan that are something else now.   The franchisee who built them, or maybe it was DD themselves must have pulled out of the are back in the 80's?   The one at the gas station...well, that location is a revolving door for "restaurants."   But with Tim Hortons, Biggby, and soon Starbucks and DD it seems to be a crowded market on Telegraph.   

Intersting...Wikipedia says over 1/2 DD sales are coffee, so the emphasis is on the Dunkin, not the Donut.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 06, 2015, 09:35:32 AM
Had to swing by J&R for a mower shroud I ordered and went past the diner makeover.  Looks the same to me as it did last month.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on May 06, 2015, 09:56:23 AM
Had to swing by J&R for a mower shroud I ordered and went past the diner makeover.  Looks the same to me as it did last month.
The makeover was interior... 

I know a person who "volunteered" on the project
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 06, 2015, 10:09:56 AM
The makeover was interior... 

I know a person who "volunteered" on the project

Like caked on grease removal from the vent hoods? ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on May 06, 2015, 12:22:51 PM
I heard there is a Baskin Robbins going in with the Dunkin Donuts.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 06, 2015, 03:28:10 PM
I heard there is a Baskin Robbins going in with the Dunkin Donuts.

Sounds like the perfect meeting place for the National Diabetes Association to hold training classes ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 06, 2015, 07:44:34 PM
Sounds like the perfect meeting place for the National Diabetes Association to hold training classes ;) ;) ;)

...or meetings of Weight Watchers....
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on May 06, 2015, 10:38:12 PM
Drove by today and they were refacing the building already...   
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 07, 2015, 11:55:37 AM
Drove by today and they were refacing the building already...

Was the castle 'tower' still there ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on May 07, 2015, 08:24:06 PM
Yes, the castle was down when I drove past it when coming to town from the airport today, I pulled off the road and cried.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on May 08, 2015, 06:44:37 AM
I see the sign up on the Monroe Grill on Telegraph - but they haven't covered the Drone Parking lot yet.   Maybe they were waiting for the Castle parts to arrive  ;D
Title: Dunkin Donuts and Baskin Robbins opening in Monroe!
Post by: BigRedDog on May 13, 2015, 08:12:42 AM
Well here's one that didn't exactly sneak up on us...

Quote
“We haven’t even put a sign up and people already know it’s going to be a Dunkin’ Donuts and Baskin-Robbins and that makes me very happy,” Mr. Kumar said,



http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/may/13/dunkin-donuts-and-baskin-robbins-open-monroe/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/may/13/dunkin-donuts-and-baskin-robbins-open-monroe/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: Dunkin Donuts and Baskin Robbins opening in Monroe!
Post by: BigRedDog on May 13, 2015, 12:26:59 PM
Well here's one that didn't exactly sneak up on us...

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/may/13/dunkin-donuts-and-baskin-robbins-open-monroe/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/may/13/dunkin-donuts-and-baskin-robbins-open-monroe/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter[/url])


13ABC Toledo just had a short segment on the 'new' store in Monroe...

commented that it would 'add' about 25 new jobs to the Monroe economy...

I wonder how they count the 25 jobs that were 'lost' when White Castle closed :o :o :o

I'm sure the government will count these as 'new' jobs too ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on May 18, 2015, 12:11:02 AM
IHOP is moving into the old Big Boy on N. Dixie

A coin Jewelry/and sounds like pawn shop is opening up on N. Monroe by the mall

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 18, 2015, 10:10:48 AM
IHOP is moving into the old Big Boy on N. Dixie

A coin Jewelry/and sounds like pawn shop is opening up on N. Monroe by the mall

I wonder if thats our new poster...JN Coin Bank?

I'm excited about I-Hop.  That will bring CL and I to Monroe, we love I-Hop.  I'm a fan of the long defunct Perkins Pancake Houses.  A short stack with bacon, couple eggs over easy and warm maple syrup, makes my day.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: eriemermaid on May 18, 2015, 02:24:17 PM
 Sheesh, now you have my stomach growling!  :P
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: FritzTheKat on May 18, 2015, 05:16:35 PM
If you ever see The Original Pancake House try it. You won't be disappointed.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: MarissaMGB on May 18, 2015, 05:55:22 PM
Yea IHOP is delicious!!!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on May 18, 2015, 05:57:08 PM
Original Pancake house used to serve my favorite---Chili pancakes
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on May 19, 2015, 06:50:07 AM
Original Pancake house used to serve my favorite---Chili pancakes

That doesn't even sound appetizing......... to me........

Really?  Its good?

Do they put cheese and onions on them?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 19, 2015, 08:07:49 AM
Original Pancake house used to serve my favorite---Chili pancakes

I grew up with my Dad putting chili on his pancakes so naturally I had to try it while I was young...   can't say it was one of my favorites but it's pretty darn good!!!

Another of his favorites was to take fresh cream (right from the separator) and pour that over pancakes and then sprinkle sugar into the cream.

We raised hogs and he fed the skimmed milk to them...   

they got fat and we stayed (somewhat) slim...

go figure ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on May 19, 2015, 08:16:03 AM
I'm a fan of the long defunct Perkins Pancake Houses.


Perkins is still around, just not around here.   Looks like Sandusky or Elkhart are the closest.  http://www.perkinsrestaurants.com/ (http://www.perkinsrestaurants.com/)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 19, 2015, 08:28:40 AM
Perkins is still around, just not around here.   Looks like Sandusky or Elkhart are the closest.  [url]http://www.perkinsrestaurants.com/[/url] ([url]http://www.perkinsrestaurants.com/[/url])


They're all over the place in Florida...

not as many as Waffle House but they're a whole lot nicer that WH too ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 19, 2015, 09:31:30 AM
WH is my substitute I-Hop.  I frequent the one on 25 just off the e-way in P'buirg....and, I can get a truck in the parking lot (with some creative driving).
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: excelsior on May 19, 2015, 12:30:46 PM
WH is my substitute I-Hop.  I frequent the one on 25 just off the e-way in P'buirg....and, I can get a truck in the parking lot (with some creative driving).


I saw that WH recently.   When did WH open in the Toledo area?  Bowling Green used to be the closest.

http://www.wafflehouse.com/locations (http://www.wafflehouse.com/locations)

It appears that there are 4 around Toledo.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: MarissaMGB on May 19, 2015, 01:40:04 PM
I thought Waffle house was gross, I like IHop much better :D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 19, 2015, 11:40:49 PM
I saw that WH recently.   When did WH open in the Toledo area?  Bowling Green used to be the closest.

[url]http://www.wafflehouse.com/locations[/url] ([url]http://www.wafflehouse.com/locations[/url])

It appears that there are 4 around Toledo.


The one on 25 at 475 has been there a while as the one on Airport near Heatherdowns.  Don't know where the other 2 are....
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 19, 2015, 11:41:56 PM
I thought Waffle house was gross, I like IHop much better :D

See, I like their big breakfast with grits and coffee.  I've had their burgers too.  I think they are good...and quick.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on May 20, 2015, 07:15:38 AM
I thought Waffle house was gross, I like IHop much better :D

I agree.

We call them Awful Waffle.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 20, 2015, 07:52:04 AM
I thought Waffle house was gross, I like IHop much better :D

They're pretty much at opposite ends of the 'food spectrum'...

The biggest factor (especially in the South) is they're very convenient...

in some places there are 2 on the same corner... 

they're open 7/24...

They quite often wouldn't be my 'first choice' but in some circumstances they're ok.

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on May 20, 2015, 08:29:26 AM
Agree - breakfast only but they do have a quick turnaround...   and you can staff the entire place with 2 or 3 people!    Looks like they bring in a trailer and hook it up - ready to go.

a change from the other fast food places like McD's when you are on the road
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 20, 2015, 08:51:16 AM
Agree - breakfast only but they do have a quick turnaround...   and you can staff the entire place with 2 or 3 people!    Looks like they bring in a trailer and hook it up - ready to go.

a change from the other fast food places like McD's when you are on the road

We've made several 20 hour straight through drives to Florida (and back) over the years.  They're great to get in and out of fast. 

We were in one in Georgia about 4am one morning when the cook and the waitress (they were the only two  staff there) got into a big fight...

first verbal only and then as we were telling the kids to 'hurry up' and finish their breakfast the female waitress actually started throwing food back at the male cook!!!

It probably would have been more entertaining if we hadn't had the kids with us ;) ;) ;)

I've often wondered what happened after we left...   

did it get physical?

did either one of them get hurt?

I didn't see anything on the news about it but then again that was in the early days of the internet (Al Gore was still working on it) and I didn't have even one portable device to search with :o :o :o
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on June 02, 2015, 07:44:37 AM
"Produce" is open in the old Ciolinos.   Nice looking stuff--a little more expensive but it won't be going bad on the car ride home.   Owner seems a lot nicer than the old owner.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 02, 2015, 08:00:45 AM
"Produce" is open in the old Ciolinos.   Nice looking stuff--a little more expensive but it won't be going bad on the car ride home.   Owner seems a lot nicer than the old owner.

Will be interesting to see if they are able to 'differentiate' themselves from the prior operation in that same location :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 02, 2015, 09:05:47 AM
Our township supervisor owns a produce stand on Old US 223 directly across from the south end of Ottawa Lake Co-op.  It's not big but they have really nice produce and most of it is locally grown....  I 'donated' a bunch of zuchini's last year to him...

In 'trade', he gave CL and I some killer garlic cloves.

What in the heck do you do with literally dozens of zuchini's that appear every morning?

\Not a new business, but a seasonal one.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on June 03, 2015, 08:12:58 AM
That might as well be in Indiana for those of us in Monroe  :D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 03, 2015, 09:47:27 AM
That might as well be in Indiana for those of us in Monroe  :D

Not a bad drive if you find something else to go in that direction for...

it's only a mile from 'downtown' Sylvania, OH!  If you can't find something to do there then you're not looking very hard!!!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 03, 2015, 09:56:09 AM
It's on the corner of Yankee Road and Old US 223.  BTW.  Nice ride in the country with Toledo shopping, lower gas prices and smooth roads close at hand.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on June 04, 2015, 12:04:53 PM
There is a propane place on Yankee a couple of miles south of Sterns that is cheapest around.  Maybe $10 to fil 20 lb
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on June 04, 2015, 12:06:53 PM
Had to venture to Monroe this morning.  Noticed how big the Kroger is going to be.  I didn't like the Bedford one for awhile because everything is so spread out but you get use to it.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on June 04, 2015, 02:01:30 PM
We tend to head north as much as south.   Pretty much anything in Toledo, except Costco or Menards, can be had between the West Rd. and Eureka Rd exits.   The Menards is in the works, and there are rumors about Costco.   Stuff I want in Toledo seems more spread out between Spring Meadows, Westgate, and Monroe St.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on June 04, 2015, 02:09:50 PM
Looks like Starbucks is moving forward--saw today there are "For Lease...Join Starbucks" signs up.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 04, 2015, 06:23:57 PM
Had to venture to Monroe this morning.  Noticed how big the Kroger is going to be.  I didn't like the Bedford one for awhile because everything is so spread out but you get use to it.

And you get plenty of exercise too 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on June 04, 2015, 06:28:39 PM
I do get some steps in but I never know how many.  I have to remember to take my Jawbone off the wrist and put in my pocket. It doesn't register when the arm is pushing the cart.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: arpydave on June 04, 2015, 07:37:44 PM
We tend to head north as much as south.   Pretty much anything in Toledo, except Costco or Menards, can be had between the West Rd. and Eureka Rd exits.   The Menards is in the works, and there are rumors about Costco.   Stuff I want in Toledo seems more spread out between Spring Meadows, Westgate, and Monroe St.

Agree with you on the selection end of that for the routine, weekly/bi-weekly/monthly items.  Unless you live near the state line, then you gotta figure in gas and travel time.

And bigger ticket items, like cars, get taxed by Mich. when you tag them.

But those in-betweens, like furniture....ah, Ohio don't tax ya at time of sale.  Mich. expects you to pony up and pay up in April.

And of course you'd do that, wouldn't you? 8* Wink, wink, nudge. Say no more, ehh? ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on June 04, 2015, 10:43:40 PM
Agree with you on the selection end of that for the routine, weekly/bi-weekly/monthly items.  Unless you live near the state line, then you gotta figure in gas and travel time.

And bigger ticket items, like cars, get taxed by Mich. when you tag them.

But those in-betweens, like furniture....ah, Ohio don't tax ya at time of sale.  Mich. expects you to pony up and pay up in April.

And of course you'd do that, wouldn't you? 8* Wink, wink, nudge. Say no more, ehh? ;) ;) ;)

When did Ohio pass the no tax at sale law?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: arpydave on June 04, 2015, 11:28:20 PM
Perhaps part(s) of that loophole have been closed, but looking at an annual (Apr. 15) Mich. State Tax form still shows blanks to fill in after you go to a confessional and "report" the state taxes you "owe" that were not charged previously.

That is: when the then "we" bought a living room suite at Banner in Toledo in '88 and the salesman was totaling it up he commented how it "must be nice" that he didn't have to charge us state tax as we were Mich. residents and were having it delivered to a Mich. address.  As we were curious he said that we were supposed to report and pay Mich. tax at year end via our tax form.

In '89 when "we" bought a new car in Perrysburg (still will never buy another new GM; what a POS) we weren't charged sales tax when we were handed the keys.  But when I went to get tags for it Mich. hit me for the sales tax on the spot.  Based on the furniture dealing approx. a year earlier I hadn't budgeted for that hit in the 15 days before my temp tags expired.

Like I said, things may have changed, but-t-t-t-t......YMMV
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: arpydave on June 05, 2015, 12:26:49 AM
So bottom line is mind your mid level purchases, make sure that who you're dealing with doesn't have a physical presence in Mich., and have it delivered to a Mich. address.

And just postpone paying the sales tax until April...when you feel guilty about it...and fill in those blanks on your tax forms.

And since your already feeling guilty, don't forget to total up and claim the tax on all that sh-stuff you and your household bought from Amazon.
  Not that I'd ever do stuff like that, mind ya 8*.....I'm just sayin'.... (wink, wink, nudge, nudge, say no more, say no more 8)).

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Frenchfry on June 05, 2015, 12:31:53 AM
So bottom line is mind your mid level purchases, make sure that who you're dealing with doesn't have a physical presence in Mich., and have it delivered to a Mich. address.

And just postpone paying the sales tax until April...when you feel guilty about it...and fill in those blanks on your tax forms.

And since your already feeling guilty, don't forget to total up and claim the tax on all that sh-stuff you and your household bought from Amazon.
  Not that I'd ever do stuff like that, mind ya 8*.....I'm just sayin'.... (wink, wink, nudge, nudge, say no more, say no more 8)).
I declare it every year.

Mostly small online purchases...the tax was only a couple bucks.

I believe Michigan just passed a law that all online retailers have to charge tax.

Previously the only retailers to do that had a presence in Michigan.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on June 05, 2015, 07:51:07 AM
I've bought cars in Toledo.  Dealer charged MI sales tax and took care of the registration for me.      That's a terrible dealer!

Lucas County sales tax is 7.25%.   I've dealt Toledo-based companies who were delivering to me in Michigan and was always charged tax.   There must have been some loophole that was closed.   Or I didn't deal with a savvy salesperson.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: livewire on June 05, 2015, 08:09:51 AM
I bought my grain truck several years ago in Ohio.  Didn't pay sales tax.

But then again, I don't pay any sales tax, anyways...  I'm exempt.   ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on June 05, 2015, 08:39:51 AM
Years ago if one bought from an independent company with no presence in Michigan and they delivered to Michigan you did not have to pay sales tax to anyone.  They have since closed that loophole.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 05, 2015, 09:53:07 AM
Years ago if one bought from an independent company with no presence in Michigan and they delivered to Michigan you did not have to pay sales tax to anyone.  They have since closed that loophole.

I guess I've never bought and had anything delivered...   

always just 'take with' figuring on paying the 'extra' sales tax rate.

So, if they deliver to Michigan does your sales tax got to MI or to OH?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: nails on June 05, 2015, 10:05:05 AM


I believe Michigan just passed a law that all online retailers have to charge tax.

Previously the only retailers to do that had a presence in Michigan.


Don't think so.  Amazon doesn't charge tax for my purchases.

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 05, 2015, 10:08:55 AM
Don't think so.  Amazon doesn't charge tax for my purchases.

They will soon...
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on June 05, 2015, 10:58:47 AM
I use to buy furniture and appliances from The Appliance Center in Maumee.  If I took the item with me they would write "deliver to Mich" on the Invoice. I bought there because they were local, had good deals and I didn't pay sales tax. I still shop there.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on June 05, 2015, 04:47:20 PM
I bought my grain truck several years ago in Ohio.  Didn't pay sales tax.

But then again, I don't pay any sales tax, anyways...  I'm exempt.   ;D

Aha so the Reverend stuff really works eh?   ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Frenchfry on June 05, 2015, 08:39:39 PM
I use to buy furniture and appliances from The Appliance Center in Maumee.  If I took the item with me they would write "deliver to Mich" on the Invoice. I bought there because they were local, had good deals and I didn't pay sales tax. I still shop there.
Gee...I wonder what the reward is for turning in tax cheats.  ;D
Just kidding. I wouldn't do that even to my worst enemy. (which you're not...in my book anyway)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 05, 2015, 10:57:32 PM
Gee...I wonder what the reward is for turning in tax cheats.  ;D
Just kidding. I wouldn't do that even to my worst enemy. (which you're not...in my book anyway)

I seem to remember a time when you sicked the BATFE on Live for erroneous bullshitte....
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 05, 2015, 10:59:13 PM
I bought my grain truck several years ago in Ohio.  Didn't pay sales tax.

But then again, I don't pay any sales tax, anyways...  I'm exempt.   ;D

gee, so am I and I ain't no reverend either........
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Frenchfry on June 05, 2015, 11:07:40 PM
I seem to remember a time when you sicked the BATFE on Live for erroneous bullshitte....
That's a fricking lie! But lying is what you do.

Funny how I've always had this suspicious feeling that you were using the hatred of me to get close to the radical right.

Sort of an undercover thing...maybe you got your tit in a wringer somehow with the government and now are playing the snitch game to save your behind.

So if in fact LW did happen to run into some sort of trouble...I'd bet that you had something to do with it.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 05, 2015, 11:30:55 PM
Substance abusers typically have short memories.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Frenchfry on June 05, 2015, 11:59:11 PM
Substance abusers typically have short memories.
Use any excuse you want...but you know what they say...snitches get stitches.
I just hope your drugs will take the pain away when you "friends" find out you've been screwing 'em.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: livewire on June 06, 2015, 10:19:53 AM
I seem to remember a time when you sicked the BATFE on Live for erroneous bullshitte....

Actually, I'm on very good terms with the BATFE.  Always have been.

The incident you are probably thinking of was when Frenchie falsely blamed Pax for threatening the President with bodily harm.  He contacted the Secret Service, which automatically started an investigation.  They interviewed me (and others), only because I was posting on MT at a time when Pax was posting in a particular thread.  The investigation proved a complete waste of time for the Secret Service agent, but they are obligated to investigate EVERY report, no matter how far fetched, and no matter how ridiculous the claims are from the person making the report.

I have to wonder what that investigation cost us taxpayers... all because Fry wanted to try to get someone in trouble.

What a piece of work.   8*
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: excelsior on June 06, 2015, 11:11:54 AM
Actually, I'm on very good terms with the BATFE.  Always have been.

The incident you are probably thinking of was when Frenchie falsely blamed Pax for threatening the President with bodily harm.  He contacted the Secret Service, which automatically started an investigation.  They interviewed me (and others), only because I was posting on MT at a time when Pax was posting in a particular thread.  The investigation proved a complete waste of time for the Secret Service agent, but they are obligated to investigate EVERY report, no matter how far fetched, and no matter how ridiculous the claims are from the person making the report.

I have to wonder what that investigation cost us taxpayers... all because Fry wanted to try to get someone in trouble.

What a piece of work.   8*

Again I request that if anyone out there knows anything at all about excelsior...please email me at bumfunkegypt@live.com

...but you know what they say...snitches get stitches.

Interesting conflict going on there.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Frenchfry on June 06, 2015, 12:08:27 PM
Actually, I'm on very good terms with the BATFE.  Always have been.

The incident you are probably thinking of was when Frenchie falsely blamed Pax for threatening the President with bodily harm.  He contacted the Secret Service, which automatically started an investigation.  They interviewed me (and others), only because I was posting on MT at a time when Pax was posting in a particular thread.  The investigation proved a complete waste of time for the Secret Service agent, but they are obligated to investigate EVERY report, no matter how far fetched, and no matter how ridiculous the claims are from the person making the report.

I have to wonder what that investigation cost us taxpayers... all because Fry wanted to try to get someone in trouble.

What a piece of work.   8*
More lies! I simply stated someone ought to report those that threaten the President.

Funny how you were the only one that was questioned considering the number of MT members that were active during those discussions at the time.

Maybe you have a connection to Pax that you've neglected to mention.

I really don't understand why you right-wing republicans have to lie, cheat, bully, and act like fools 24/7
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on June 06, 2015, 12:16:07 PM
I guess they are just following our leader like good soldiers
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Frenchfry on June 06, 2015, 12:22:37 PM
Interesting conflict going on there.
Only if you are gullible enough to believe the lies...and clearly you are.

I'm just curious who has their hand up your backside that's responsible for the puppet show.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: livewire on June 06, 2015, 09:49:04 PM
More lies! I simply stated someone ought to report those that threaten the President.

Funny how you were the only one that was questioned considering the number of MT members that were active during those discussions at the time.

Maybe you have a connection to Pax that you've neglected to mention.

I really don't understand why you right-wing republicans have to lie, cheat, bully, and act like fools 24/7

Oh, I see.  So the Secret Service agent must have lied to me when he said that YOU reported Pax to the Secret Service. He even had pictures of you and Pax in his file that he showed me.

I have no reason to fabricate such a story. If you deny it happened, you are a liar.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Frenchfry on June 07, 2015, 07:29:15 AM
Oh, I see.  So the Secret Service agent must have lied to me when he said that YOU reported Pax to the Secret Service. He even had pictures of you and Pax in his file that he showed me.

I have no reason to fabricate such a story. If you deny it happened, you are a liar.
It never happened.

Not difficult to see why you've earned the nickname LiveLIAR.

Not sure about your encounters with those in law enforcement but in my experiences, sharing any sort of information is strictly prohibited...so your tale failed on that basic premise.

One would think that after all these years of lies after lies that you would be getting better at it...but you're not.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: livewire on June 07, 2015, 07:48:18 AM
It never happened.

Not difficult to see why you've earned the nickname LiveLIAR.

Not sure about your encounters with those in law enforcement but in my experiences, sharing any sort of information is strictly prohibited...so your tale failed on that basic premise.

One would think that after all these years of lies after lies that you would be getting better at it...but you're not.


I have no reason to lie about this. It's the truth.  But whatever.  Live your life in a lie.  I really don't care.

Since you deny it, I know that YOU are the liar.  I could always post a picture of the agent's business card, and people could call him to confirm... But I won't go that far.  Besides, I don't want to bother the agent.  It's over and done with.

And I realize you have a vast experience with dealing with law enforcement personnel, and you are correct - sharing ANY sort of information is strictly prohibited... with a suspect (that's why they never shared information with YOU).  But that's where you and I differ.  He shared information with me because he was trying to ascertain what the hell YOU were up to. 

In the future, before you report anyone to any Federal agency, I suggest you get your facts straight FIRST.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Frenchfry on June 07, 2015, 07:57:52 AM

I have no reason to lie about this. It's the truth.  But whatever.  Live your life in a lie.  I really don't care.

Since you deny it, I know that YOU are the liar.  I could always post a picture of the agent's business card, and people could call him to confirm... But I won't go that far.  Besides, I don't want to bother the agent.  It's over and done with.

And I realize you have a vast experience with dealing with law enforcement personnel, and you are correct - sharing ANY sort of information is strictly prohibited... with a suspect (that's why they never shared information with YOU).  But that's where you and I differ.  He shared information with me because he was trying to ascertain what the hell YOU were up to. 

In the future, before you report anyone to any Federal agency, I suggest you get your facts straight FIRST.
Well with all my postings in the "Why Americans No Longer Trust Their Police" thread...it's entirely possible that some of 'em would have it out for me...but that fact that you're a known pathological liar over-rides any possibility of the encounter ever happening in the first place.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: livewire on June 07, 2015, 08:12:29 AM
Well with all my postings in the "Why Americans No Longer Trust Their Police" thread...it's entirely possible that some of 'em would have it out for me...but that fact that you're a known pathological liar over-rides any possibility of the encounter ever happening in the first place.



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Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on June 07, 2015, 11:24:33 AM
Well with all my postings in the "Why Americans No Longer Trust Their Police" thread...it's entirely possible that some of 'em would have it out for me...but that fact that you're a known pathological liar over-rides any possibility of the encounter ever happening in the first place.

The funny thing is that Pax mentioned it - and Livewire mentioned it.

So either both of them are lying - or you are.

Which is it Fry?

On the one hand you have an alcoholic ex-con burger flipper. 

On the other hand you have successful self made people.

I know who I believe.

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: excelsior on June 07, 2015, 11:56:16 AM
Well with all my postings in the "Why Americans No Longer Trust Their Police" thread...it's entirely possible that some of 'em would have it out for me...but that fact that you're a known pathological liar over-rides any possibility of the encounter ever happening in the first place.

Pathological liars are extremely easy to expose.  It only takes two posts:

Good ole Monroetucky....land of the bigoted inbreds.

So MonroeTucky is an insult?
I feel it's more of a commentary on the harmless nature of the residents...sort of like Mayberry.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Frenchfry on June 07, 2015, 12:50:03 PM
Pathological liars are extremely easy to expose.  It only takes two posts:
lie:
An intentionally false statement
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/lie (http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/lie)

The ultimate defense is that I spoke the truth.

Good ole Monroetucky really seems to be the land of bigoted inbreds and the residents appear harmless for the most part
(except for the killer or killers in the horrific stories that were in the news...which made the place a lot less like Mayberry these days.)

Wasn't that long ago when you claimed to not be from the area...and then later, in another topic, you recalled the days you lived in New Boston. So it seems you ARE from the 'hood.
http://monroetalks.com/forum/index.php?topic=18435.msg687206#msg687206 (http://monroetalks.com/forum/index.php?topic=18435.msg687206#msg687206)

So tell me excelsior...was your prior user-name JL?

The funny thing is that Pax mentioned it - and Livewire mentioned it.

So either both of them are lying - or you are.

Which is it Fry?

On the one hand you have an alcoholic ex-con burger flipper. 

On the other hand you have successful self made people.

I know who I believe.


You have a tendency to listen to, and believe everything the echo-chamber spews anyway.

But thanks for considering me a successful self made person.

I'm not sure if it's Pax or Livewire that's the alcoholic but we all know the legal trouble that Pax had...so that question answered itself.

As for the burger-flipper...my guess is you were talking about Pax since he's part of the sovereign citizen movement and fitting into society with that mindset must be very difficult.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement)

I've never been much of a drinker...guess I just don't care for anything that alters the mind...and that goes for anything the Doctor wants to prescribe.

I've never flipped a burger either...nor even worked in any fast food restaurants...but your apparent disdain for those that do has been noted.

As for the allegation that I reported someone that threatened the President...well as much as I'd like to claim credit for it...I cannot.

If you see something...say something.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on June 07, 2015, 01:43:34 PM
I'm wondering if the opening of a tall tale book store is coming soon?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 07, 2015, 03:51:29 PM
Once upon a time.....

or

You'll never believe it but....
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on June 07, 2015, 04:56:02 PM
I'm wondering if the opening of a tall tale book store is coming soon?

Do you have to actually believe your own fiction to publish at the book store?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: AtypicalGirl on June 07, 2015, 04:59:57 PM
A friend of mine went to "Produce" yesterday and said it sucked. She didn't elaborate too much on that, but I'm not sure I'm going to take the time to check it out too soon. Hopefully, once they've been up and running a while, things will improve. I will eventually check it out, but it will probably be one of those days when I don't have much to do. lol
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monique on June 07, 2015, 05:43:40 PM
A friend of mine went to "Produce" yesterday and said it sucked. She didn't elaborate too much on that, but I'm not sure I'm going to take the time to check it out too soon. Hopefully, once they've been up and running a while, things will improve. I will eventually check it out, but it will probably be one of those days when I don't have much to do. lol
Nice of you to bash a business that you've never even been to based on heresay. Real trustworthy opinion, there, ATG.  8*

We, too, went there yesterday for the first time and it was lovely. We bought our entire week's worth of produce. Selection was good, prices were good, no rotting stuff on the shelves like when it was Ciolino's (toward the end). They even have fresh figs--very hard to find around here. And the "English Lady" is still working the checkout!  :)

We will absolutely be shopping there again soon.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Zdart on June 07, 2015, 07:26:34 PM
As an obvious infrequent poster, it is clear what keeps people from this site. It should be re-named "MonroeMiddleSchoolTalks"....JMHO
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on June 07, 2015, 07:33:28 PM
I find Ciolinos in Bedford to have good stuff at real reasonable prices.  Are you going to find some stuff that is going bad.  Yeah I'm sure you might but don't buy it.   
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on June 07, 2015, 08:00:49 PM
I find Ciolinos in Bedford to have good stuff at real reasonable prices.  Are you going to find some stuff that is going bad.  Yeah I'm sure you might but don't buy it.

Well - unless you LIKE produce that is going bad - and then you SHOULD buy it!

 ;D ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: AtypicalGirl on June 07, 2015, 08:54:54 PM
Nice of you to bash a business that you've never even been to based on heresay. Real trustworthy opinion, there, ATG.  8*

We, too, went there yesterday for the first time and it was lovely. We bought our entire week's worth of produce. Selection was good, prices were good, no rotting stuff on the shelves like when it was Ciolino's (toward the end). They even have fresh figs--very hard to find around here. And the "English Lady" is still working the checkout!  :)

We will absolutely be shopping there again soon.

Thanks for chiming in with your opinion, Monique. Hmmm... seems everyone is allowed to their opinion, huh? *gasp*

I didn't "bash" the business, and I fully trust my friend who said that. So yes, based on HER opinion, I don't feel the need to rush over and check it out.

I understand that some businesses need time to get things in order, so like I said, I will eventually go there.

Nice to see you post again... please feel free to continue posting your opinion on things, as will I.  :)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on June 07, 2015, 09:05:21 PM
How nice to see such a pleasant exchange of ideas!

 ;D ;)

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on June 07, 2015, 10:13:05 PM

Opinions are like farts - everyone else's are offensive but your own are somehow perfectly reasonable.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on June 07, 2015, 10:17:17 PM
Not always
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 07, 2015, 11:05:55 PM
No comment.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on June 07, 2015, 11:09:19 PM
Agreed
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: livewire on June 08, 2015, 09:41:04 AM
But I don't fart.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on June 08, 2015, 03:43:45 PM
Old Fart has a new meaning... 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: AtypicalGirl on June 08, 2015, 04:48:54 PM
All you guys are silly....  ;D :P
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 08, 2015, 04:54:03 PM
But I don't fart.

Yeah, right.  I never met a farmer who didn't pass wind.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: livewire on June 08, 2015, 10:07:36 PM
Yeah, right.  I never met a farmer who didn't pass wind.

Oh, well THAT I have done!!!  Lol
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on June 09, 2015, 06:40:12 PM
Oh, well THAT I have done!!!  Lol

You two are the cause of Global Warming?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on June 10, 2015, 09:26:11 PM
No, No, NO, they are adding particulate matter to the atmosphere which blocks the sun and causes global cooling.  8*  :-[
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 03, 2015, 09:42:07 AM
There's a new place open on E. Dunbar between Hull and Laplaisance. 

Salt Cellar LLC...

looks like home and garden supply store.  I saw a sign that says they do lawnmower repair too.  Looks like a smaller version of Jack's Lawn.  I didn't notice if they do lawn care too.

I couldn't find a website for them but did find this:

http://www.bbb.org/toledo/business-reviews/property-maintenance/salt-cellar-in-monroe-mi-90142456 (http://www.bbb.org/toledo/business-reviews/property-maintenance/salt-cellar-in-monroe-mi-90142456)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: halo_girl on July 26, 2015, 08:15:24 PM
wondered if anybody had any idea what was going on by Wal-Mart - went there today and the corner is fenced off, small equipment in there as well as a porta-potty.  Wondered if anybody heard any rumors of what might be going there
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on July 26, 2015, 09:07:56 PM
I heard a year ago they were building a gas station there. Maybe they're finally going to do it.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: halo_girl on July 27, 2015, 10:55:33 AM
just what we need, a gas station in a bad spot.  Will be keeping an eye on the activity as I pass by at least once a week for shopping.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on July 27, 2015, 01:51:28 PM
How's that a bad spot?   There's a light for access to/from Telegraph there??
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: halo_girl on July 27, 2015, 02:06:41 PM
but coming in at the light at Telegraph is already a bottle neck; where is a driveway going to be for the gas station (if in fact that is what it will be)? 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on July 27, 2015, 09:48:21 PM
It won't be on Telegraph. It will probably be on that drive going into Walmart's lot.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on July 28, 2015, 08:30:39 AM
It won't be on Telegraph. It will probably be on that drive going into Walmart's lot.
curious if they will tear down the earth wall so that they get to advertise - or if they will just have high in the sky LED signs?     Meijer's sold off the front of their parking area long ago - it's a progression for these types of businesses it seems.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: rands on July 28, 2015, 01:13:28 PM
It is going to be a Murphy (not sure on spelling) gas station. A lot of Walmart stores have them. It has been in the plans since they built the new Walmart.  From my understanding the earth burm will stay, it's a twp thing.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: halo_girl on July 29, 2015, 08:51:21 PM
we were by there today and definitely a gas station and I figured the only way in would be thru the main drive which is going to be fun I'm sure. Hopefully things start to make more sense when they really get going because depending on the time of day you go, even with that light right there it can get congested real quick trying to get in there with their funky driveway/parking lot design (lot being small)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 29, 2015, 08:55:10 PM
I wanna know whats up with I-Hop.  I'm luisting for strawberry topped cakes with whipped cream and crisp bacon with a cup of their excellent coffee..........
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on July 29, 2015, 11:16:46 PM
They were putting in gas tanks today at Walmart.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 30, 2015, 07:30:34 AM
They were putting in gas tanks today at Walmart.

I wonder if they'll be putting a pizza oven in the station ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 30, 2015, 08:13:35 AM
Problem is, Michigan gas is no deal usually and Kroger in the point is always cheaper.  Wait until the Lansing Cabal jacks the tax up.

Then it will really be a non-bargain.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on July 30, 2015, 09:37:40 PM
I figure if the local gas station mafia can get away with ripping off consumers with the ten cent penalty for using a "card"...  then nothing else will slow them down.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 31, 2015, 12:34:30 PM
Looks like they're finishing up all the concrete work at the 'new' fuel center at the Kroger on S. Monroe street.  I'm still trying to figure out what they intend to do with the fascia on the building.  They've finished all of it on the new building and on the north end of the original building but haven't finished the part around the entrance and the sign.  Wondering if they will relocate the entrance and therefore the sign so they're waiting to finish the fascia after they move the entrance :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: MarissaMGB on July 31, 2015, 02:00:15 PM
Who knows in this town.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 01, 2015, 09:35:28 AM
The new welding supply place is open on S. Custer (M-50).

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/aug/01/ann-arbor-welding-supply-open-monroe-location/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/aug/01/ann-arbor-welding-supply-open-monroe-location/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

(http://monroenews.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/croppedphotos/2015/07/29/welding_store_photo_t1200.jpg?57a0c2296240c280e9492005c3cad63e7cbe80f4)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on August 04, 2015, 02:54:54 PM
Anyone know what's going at River Bend Commons where Hollywood Video, Hallmark, and Fashion Bug used to be?   There's been work going on there for the last few days.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: livewire on August 05, 2015, 09:20:47 PM
The new welding supply place is open on S. Custer (M-50).

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/aug/01/ann-arbor-welding-supply-open-monroe-location/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/aug/01/ann-arbor-welding-supply-open-monroe-location/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter[/url])

([url]http://monroenews.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/croppedphotos/2015/07/29/welding_store_photo_t1200.jpg?57a0c2296240c280e9492005c3cad63e7cbe80f4[/url])


This is great news!!!!!

I go to Monroe much more often than I go to Ann Arbor.

I'll have to stop in there and check it out!!!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 05, 2015, 10:14:55 PM
I have a commercial account with Airgas.  My issue is I own all my own bottles and I don't like trading, especially argon  or tri-mix so I take mine down to Airgas in Toledo on Enterpise Blvd.  Airgas has a compressor facility and bulk fill station and I have them fill my tanks.

Most welding supply stores don't have that capability so they send the bottles out to be filled, hence gthe exchange scenario.

The last TIG welder I purchased was from baker on Dixie.  They had the best price so I go it there but most of my supplies like Tig gloves, MIG wire SMAW rod and consumables come from Airgas in Adrian.

My HyperTherm came from Airgas.  I always price shop on machines.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 05, 2015, 10:19:36 PM
I figure if the local gas station mafia can get away with ripping off consumers with the ten cent penalty for using a "card"...  then nothing else will slow them down.

Thats pure unadulterated bullshitte and I would never patronize any staion that pulled that crap.  The one on 223 and Treat Highway in Adrian tried that crap and no one bought gas there for about a month andf guess what, they changed the tune.  Gas station owners have mortgage payments too.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on August 05, 2015, 10:24:01 PM
To bad everyone doesn't drive to Ohio for the $ 1.97 a gallon gas and let the stations in Monroe County charging $ 2.49 rot.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 05, 2015, 10:28:03 PM
I pulled into Meijers this afternoon for fuel (had to go across the street to Menards for Rotella T5-5-40 synthetic on sale $19.90 a gallon with a 5 dollar rebate until the end of the week btw and Meijers jacked up their price to $2.49 from $1.99 yesterday.

I guess everyone wants on the Wolvverine bandwagon.

Bastages....
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 06, 2015, 07:50:08 AM
Anyone know what's going at River Bend Commons where Hollywood Video, Hallmark, and Fashion Bug used to be?   There's been work going on there for the last few days.


Looks like Viva Dance Company is moving from the former Harwood Plaza on Laplaisance Road.


http://www.vivadanceco.com/ (http://www.vivadanceco.com/)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on August 06, 2015, 09:19:10 AM
Good news for that plaza, bad news for the other.   Someone could clean up by leasing the space next door and opening a coffee shop....all those moms with an hour to kill.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on August 06, 2015, 09:36:20 AM
Good news for that plaza, bad news for the other.   Someone could clean up by leasing the space next door and opening a coffee shop....all those moms with an hour to kill.
that would have been a better location for a dunkin donughts!

easy access lots of parking
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on August 07, 2015, 10:25:25 AM
I'm wondering if Dunkin Donuts will survive. Never see many customers there when driving by, compared to TH.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on August 07, 2015, 10:43:26 AM
Local TH franchise owners live here, are very well known, and do a lot for the the community--bet there are a lot of people who won't go to DD for that reason alone.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on August 07, 2015, 10:46:21 AM
I stay away from both and its not because I don't like either one. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on August 07, 2015, 02:30:47 PM
I like the DD coffee but don't drive across town to buy coffee but once every several months - and haven't even been there yet.   Hard to pass Monica's Baker Boy doughnuts if I'm in that mood. 
I like buying from locally owned/operated business!, and living/working in the City for years also tended to support those when practical.   
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monique on August 07, 2015, 04:28:32 PM
We tried out DD/BR about a week after they opened. I do love their coffee, and also BR Mint Chip ice cream.

We will never step foot in that location again. Surly service (a bunch of teens too busy with each other to pay attention to guests), inconsistent portions of ice cream (three smalls, all very different), and a nasty dining area.

Really stupid location, too. Coldstone Creamery right next door is way better than Baskin Robbins!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 08, 2015, 08:53:08 AM
We tried out DD/BR about a week after they opened. I do love their coffee, and also BR Mint Chip ice cream.

We will never step foot in that location again. Surly service (a bunch of teens too busy with each other to pay attention to guests), inconsistent portions of ice cream (three smalls, all very different), and a nasty dining area.

Really stupid location, too. Coldstone Creamery right next door is way better than Baskin Robbins!

Does anyone know if this is a company run store or a franchise?

And if it's a franchise if it's 'locally' owned?

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 08, 2015, 09:28:13 AM
I sure could use an I-HOP fix this morning......
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 08, 2015, 09:30:12 AM
We tried out DD/BR about a week after they opened. I do love their coffee, and also BR Mint Chip ice cream.

We will never step foot in that location again. Surly service (a bunch of teens too busy with each other to pay attention to guests), inconsistent portions of ice cream (three smalls, all very different), and a nasty dining area.

Really stupid location, too. Coldstone Creamery right next door is way better than Baskin Robbins!

Considering your demeanor on here most times, thats right up your alley anyway....
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on August 08, 2015, 11:22:23 AM
They hauled in the new building for the gas station at Wal-Mart on two semis yesterday and unloaded them with a big crane. Now that's a fast way to build.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: tnweasel on August 08, 2015, 02:02:32 PM
We tried out DD/BR about a week after they opened. I do love their coffee, and also BR Mint Chip ice cream.

We will never step foot in that location again. Surly service (a bunch of teens too busy with each other to pay attention to guests), inconsistent portions of ice cream (three smalls, all very different), and a nasty dining area.

Really stupid location, too. Coldstone Creamery right next door is way better than Baskin Robbins!

tried their chicken biscuit with free hash rounds....... biscuit is pre-made and microwave heated ...even McDonald's can do better than that.....chicken is nasty pressed patty.... hash rounds had a decent flavor but were floating in grease.... no fountain sodas...only serve in bottles..... I miss Hardee's..... don't see myself going back since I don't like their ice cream at all....and Monica's is the only place in town for doughnuts......
servers were super-friendly though.....
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 09, 2015, 08:22:59 AM
I saw them putting fuel in the tanks at the new Kroger Fuel Center on S. Monroe street one day this week.  They have all the concrete work done in the area around the pumps and under the canopy but they still have to do the asphalt work surrounding that area.  The next time I went by it looked like they were finishing grading for the asphalt to go down.  They've been busy repaving the parking lot in front of the store in sections.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 09, 2015, 08:55:39 AM
Does anyone know if this is a company run store or a franchise?

And if it's a franchise if it's 'locally' owned?


I found my answer...

yes it's a franchise operation and it appears to be part of a 'regional' operation.

Monroe was the first of their 13 additional operations to open according to the MonroeNews article. 

My guess here is that they're so focused on getting the other 12 open that they may not being as focused on customer service at their existing stores.  Not uncommon in business.  They may get better with customer service once they have all their stores open.

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/may/13/dunkin-donuts-and-baskin-robbins-open-monroe/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/may/13/dunkin-donuts-and-baskin-robbins-open-monroe/)

Here's the ownership info and it all goes right back to the fairly large Motown Hospitality Group:

https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_mi/E5874G (https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_mi/E5874G)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: AtypicalGirl on August 10, 2015, 12:25:22 PM
tried their chicken biscuit with free hash rounds....... biscuit is pre-made and microwave heated ...even McDonald's can do better than that.....chicken is nasty pressed patty.... hash rounds had a decent flavor but were floating in grease.... no fountain sodas...only serve in bottles..... I miss Hardee's..... don't see myself going back since I don't like their ice cream at all....and Monica's is the only place in town for doughnuts......
servers were super-friendly though.....

I miss them, too!!!
I was always able to get it every two years when we'd travel to Pennsylvania for my family reunion - that was until they decided to close the Hardee's right next to the hotel. :(  I was bummed!


DD isn't what it once was. Their breakfast sandwiches aren't all that great (the eggs on it were nasty!). I still can't believe the price for a dozen donuts! I remember paying $5 for a dozen... not anymore!

I can't stand TH donuts. They are just disgusting to me. The only time I go there is when I want a hot chocolate on a cold day, and I only go there because everywhere else has switched from the powder hot chocolate to the liquid stuff. I prefer the powder... it tastes better. lol

I still don't understand who's bright idea it was to build a DD right next door to TH.

I know there are people (including my mom) who have wanted a DD in town, but I'm wondering if they have enough 'followers' to stay open. Every time I drive by there aren't many cars in the parking lot and the drive thru is usually empty.

I do hope they can survive - the owners have obviously put a lot of money into it.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on August 11, 2015, 06:19:44 AM
I miss them, too!!!
I was always able to get it every two years when we'd travel to Pennsylvania for my family reunion - that was until they decided to close the Hardee's right next to the hotel. :(  I was bummed!


DD isn't what it once was. Their breakfast sandwiches aren't all that great (the eggs on it were nasty!). I still can't believe the price for a dozen donuts! I remember paying $5 for a dozen... not anymore!

I can't stand TH donuts. They are just disgusting to me. The only time I go there is when I want a hot chocolate on a cold day, and I only go there because everywhere else has switched from the powder hot chocolate to the liquid stuff. I prefer the powder... it tastes better. lol

I still don't understand who's bright idea it was to build a DD right next door to TH.

I know there are people (including my mom) who have wanted a DD in town, but I'm wondering if they have enough 'followers' to stay open. Every time I drive by there aren't many cars in the parking lot and the drive thru is usually empty.

I do hope they can survive - the owners have obviously put a lot of money into it.

Maybe if it doesn't work out they will close it and open a WHITE CASTLE!

 ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: livewire on August 11, 2015, 09:39:00 AM
DD is like McDonalds - it's horrible food.  I won't be spending any money there.

It's like those nasty Krispy Kreme "donuts" you see in Kroger.  Who buys that crap? ? ? ? ?
They have no flavor, and they are usually all dried out.  Blech!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: AtypicalGirl on August 11, 2015, 10:38:43 AM
Maybe if it doesn't work out they will close it and open a WHITE CASTLE!

 ;D

I think that would be AWESOME!  ;D ;D


DD is like McDonalds - it's horrible food.  I won't be spending any money there.

It's like those nasty Krispy Kreme "donuts" you see in Kroger.  Who buys that crap? ? ? ? ?
They have no flavor, and they are usually all dried out.  Blech!!!!!!!

Ewwww. I like KK donuts about as much as TH.... yuck!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 11, 2015, 04:57:30 PM
DD is like McDonalds - it's horrible food.  I won't be spending any money there.

It's like those nasty Krispy Kreme "donuts" you see in Kroger.  Who buys that crap? ? ? ? ?
They have no flavor, and they are usually all dried out.  Blech!!!!!!!

Like Tim Hortons, they were probably good when baked but then they get trucked to the stores, put on a shelf and start collecting moisture..  By the time a person buys them, they are stale and soggy.  Nothing 'Crispy' about Krispy Kreme's.  Shold be Soggy Kreme's instead.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 11, 2015, 05:02:41 PM
Maybe if it doesn't work out they will close it and open a WHITE CASTLE!

 ;D

I love WC.  A sack of sliders is a guaranteed laxitave...

I think McDees has priced themselves about out of the market.  Shittey food and exhorbinant prices and you get to sit on blow moulded seats and eat on a dirty table...  What could be better...

I'll take Subway over McDees anyday.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 11, 2015, 05:03:53 PM
My second choice is Arby's.  Their Ruben is over the top but their fry's suck big time.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on August 11, 2015, 06:55:51 PM
My second choice is Arby's.  Their Ruben is over the top but their fry's suck big time.

I thought their Reuben stunk.

Stupid thing wasn't grilled.

I couldn't believe it.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: MarissaMGB on August 11, 2015, 07:40:30 PM
Last time I went to Arbys my stomach was a mess,
never been back.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 11, 2015, 08:46:27 PM
I thought their Reuben stunk.

Stupid thing wasn't grilled.

I couldn't believe it.

I like 'em.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on August 11, 2015, 08:48:49 PM
I get french dip when I go there.  Maybe twice a yr
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on August 11, 2015, 09:17:33 PM
I like 'em.

I will say their Jamocha shakes are pretty good.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: superspice_10 on August 11, 2015, 09:43:57 PM
Went to go to Mcdonalds last week and found out it would have been $34 bucks for 8 Egg and sausage McMuffins (3.50 a piece) I told them forget it . Went to Danny's got 3 lbs of sausage , eggs ,bananas ,chocolate milk and some really good bread for under $30. Cooked it up in my cast iron pan ..

I do prefer their coffee sometimes . Haven't ate fast food in so long other than Vince's .
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on August 11, 2015, 11:26:12 PM
McDonald's has a sausage McMuffin without the egg for a dollar. The eggs from there turn my stomach.

My wife won't go anywhere but Arby's she gets the French Dip and has them add Tomato, Lettuce, onion and mayonnaise. I like the Crispy chicken and I add Honey mustard, melts in your mouth.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: lilly on August 12, 2015, 02:22:13 AM
I thought their Reuben stunk.

Stupid thing wasn't grilled.

I couldn't believe it.

I know right? It's crazy!!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on August 12, 2015, 06:18:34 AM
I know right? It's crazy!!

Totally!

Do they not have a grill in the joint?

They could at least buy a panini press and try for crying out loud!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on August 13, 2015, 09:18:09 AM
New Papa Johns Pizza (yeah another pizza place...) going in Hampton Plaza.   Also appears something is going on with the old Johnny Rockets place.   And a new Mexican place, second location of what sounds like a locally owned Chipotle, going in downtown where Rocky's was.     
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 13, 2015, 09:53:56 AM
New Papa Johns Pizza (yeah another pizza place...) going in Hampton Plaza.   Also appears something is going on with the old Johnny Rockets place.   And a new Mexican place, second location of what sounds like a locally owned Chipotle, going in downtown where Rocky's was.     


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Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: superspice_10 on August 13, 2015, 02:55:54 PM
New Papa Johns Pizza (yeah another pizza place...) going in Hampton Plaza.   Also appears something is going on with the old Johnny Rockets place.   And a new Mexican place, second location of what sounds like a locally owned Chipotle, going in downtown where Rocky's was.     



We always order from Buscemi's . I used to go pick it up to save on the delivery charge , but my grandson has been working there since April and now we have him deliver it here so we can give him the tip , lol .
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on August 25, 2015, 09:21:59 AM
Something definitely going on with the old Johnny Rockets.   Regular activity and the for lease signs are gone.   No signs as to what's going in there though.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 25, 2015, 05:02:11 PM
McDonald's has a sausage McMuffin without the egg for a dollar. The eggs from there turn my stomach.

My wife won't go anywhere but Arby's she gets the French Dip and has them add Tomato, Lettuce, onion and mayonnaise. I like the Crispy chicken and I add Honey mustard, melts in your mouth.

Everytime I eat an egg mcmuffin (rarely if someone else buys), I have to seek a throne in 20 minutes (and not the one in the oval office either....).

I do like their hash browns that look like a shoe sole.

When I was a kid, one of the first McDees went up not to far from the house.  I remember the nickle fries in the paper sacks and the burgers for 25 cents.  Those days are long gone........  but then so is Royal Castle and birch beer in a frosted mug.

Is the A&W still on Dixie or is it gone too?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on August 25, 2015, 05:27:22 PM
Everytime I eat an egg mcmuffin (rarely if someone else buys), I have to seek a throne in 20 minutes (and not the one in the oval office either....).

I do like their hash browns that look like a shoe sole.

When I was a kid, one of the first McDees went up not to far from the house.  I remember the nickle fries in the paper sacks and the burgers for 25 cents.  Those days are long gone........  but then so is Royal Castle and birch beer in a frosted mug.

Is the A&W still on Dixie or is it gone too?

For some reason I can handle the scrambled eggs they sell but the poached eggs they put on the Mcmuffins make me want to throw up ten minutes after I eat them. Does this to my wife and her dad too.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 25, 2015, 05:33:56 PM
I have a suspicion that the 'scrambled eggs' come in a milk carton whereas the trademark 'round poached egg' don't.

For me, thats enima on a bun.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on September 01, 2015, 05:13:52 PM
The 'newly relocated' fuel center at the S. Monroe street Kroger store is open although they're not pumping much fuel...  price is $2.399 which is about what I saw around town but still a long way from the $1.919 I paid yesterday at Kroger in Toledo. 

They were already disassembling the canopy at the 'old' station and there is a big excavator sitting onsite ready to start tearing things apart. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on September 01, 2015, 10:14:06 PM
Everytime I eat an egg mcmuffin (rarely if someone else buys), I have to seek a throne in 20 minutes (and not the one in the oval office either....).

I do like their hash browns that look like a shoe sole.

When I was a kid, one of the first McDees went up not to far from the house.  I remember the nickle fries in the paper sacks and the burgers for 25 cents.  Those days are long gone........  but then so is Royal Castle and birch beer in a frosted mug.

Is the A&W still on Dixie or is it gone too?
The only A&W left is on N. Monroe Street out by K-Marts
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Frenchfry on September 02, 2015, 07:50:14 AM
The only A&W left is on N. Monroe Street out by K-Marts
Or as a normal person would call it...K-mart.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on September 02, 2015, 04:30:01 PM
Or as a normal person would call it...K-mart.
LOL  I bet that really made you feel special 

Glad I could boost your self esteem
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: superspice_10 on September 02, 2015, 10:07:42 PM
Some people call it Kfart , lol
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on September 03, 2015, 07:07:26 AM
K-marts makes Wal Mart look good.

What really stinks is they ruined Sears.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 03, 2015, 10:37:28 AM
Sears and Grabbuck has always blown....
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Frenchfry on September 03, 2015, 07:32:10 PM
LOL  I bet that really made you feel special 

Glad I could boost your self esteem
Didn't do a thing for me personally.

In fact I'm actually sorry I said it the way I did.

I merely didn't want the readers to become accustomed to saying things the wrong way.

Sort of along the line of some having the tendency of babbling nonsensical words to babies.

May as well do the right thing whenever possible.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on September 03, 2015, 09:35:01 PM
Didn't do a thing for me personally.

In fact I'm actually sorry I said it the way I did.

I merely didn't want the readers to become accustomed to saying things the wrong way.

Sort of along the line of some having the tendency of babbling nonsensical words to babies.

May as well do the right thing whenever possible.

What a great idea!

When are you going to start?

 ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 03, 2015, 10:32:14 PM
What a great idea!

When are you going to start?

 ;D

El primero de los que nunca y la segunda de quién sabe cuándo ....... ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on September 10, 2015, 09:00:14 PM
Classic.
New restaurant wants to open in Lambertville (Sage Steak and Seafood) at corner of Secor and Consear.  Restaurant is ready to open but has to wait a couple of weeks because Moron county health inspector is on vacation. They only have 1?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on September 10, 2015, 09:40:27 PM
Classic.
New restaurant wants to open in Lambertville (Sage Steak and Seafood) at corner of Secor and Consear.  Restaurant is ready to open but has to wait a couple of weeks because Moron county health inspector is on vacation. They only have 1?

That is classic!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on September 11, 2015, 07:23:57 AM
Inept, for sure.

Generally speaking, in the business world there is always a back up for any individual.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on September 11, 2015, 07:42:15 AM
Classic.
New restaurant wants to open in Lambertville (Sage Steak and Seafood) at corner of Secor and Consear.  Restaurant is ready to open but has to wait a couple of weeks because Moron county health inspector is on vacation. They only have 1?


Back in the days when I was dealing with the health department on a very regular basis they had several 'sanitarians' on staff.  The county was broken down into zones and each sanitarian handled the work in that zone. 

I have no idea if that is the way they still handle their work but it certainly sounds like that is a possibility. 

According to the current 'roster' at the health department they show four 'registered' sanitarians and one that is not prefaced with a 'registered'.  I'm not sure what is up with that but I'm guessing it may be just an oversight by whoever typed the roster.

http://www.co.monroe.mi.us/government/departments_offices/public_health/staff_directory.html (http://www.co.monroe.mi.us/government/departments_offices/public_health/staff_directory.html)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on September 11, 2015, 11:22:19 AM
Classic.
New restaurant wants to open in Lambertville (Sage Steak and Seafood) at corner of Secor and Consear.  Restaurant is ready to open but has to wait a couple of weeks because Moron county health inspector is on vacation. They only have 1?

They probably fooled them by being on schedule... 

(I can hear the office talk now - yep another restaurant is scheduling to open - how long of a delay will that be I have a vacation in Sept...     go ahead no one ever meets those deadlines in the restaurant world...)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on September 11, 2015, 11:55:17 AM
On another note a businessman in Lambertville found out from the state there was another liquor license available in Lambertville.  He went to the township hall and ask to apply for it and the clerk ask how he knew there was one available. She told him they were not going to award it.  They were going to sit on it.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on September 11, 2015, 12:10:27 PM
On another note a businessman in Lambertville found out from the state there was another liquor license available in Lambertville.  He went to the township hall and ask to apply for it and the clerk ask how he knew there was one available. She told him they were not going to award it.  They were going to sit on it.


Obviously the 'how did you find out' is completely irrelevant...

when you say 'clerk' do you mean the person who happened to be at the window when this man walked in or do you actually mean the elected 'township clerk'...

One should have known not to ask and the other probably still shouldn't have asked.

Most likely the reference to an available license is a 'Resort License'.  Wouldn't be the first time that a municipality tried to hold one hostage :-\ :-\ :-\

Clear to the bottom of the page:

http://www.michiganliquorlaw.com/retail-license-types.html (http://www.michiganliquorlaw.com/retail-license-types.html)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on September 11, 2015, 04:16:58 PM
He talked to the elected clerk, Trudy Hershberger...
He is taking it up with the township board but he has to get them to put it on the addenda as you aren't allowed to disrupt board meetings. Nice little club they have going.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on September 11, 2015, 05:26:36 PM
He talked to the elected clerk, Trudy Hershberger...
He is taking it up with the township board but he has to get them to put it on the addenda as you aren't allowed to disrupt board meetings. Nice little club they have going.

Hope they don't end up doing like they did over in Devil's Lake not too long ago...

the township approved two liquor licenses at one meeting but then the state determined they only had one to give out!!!

Ooopsss...  they had to take one back and there are more than a few people upset about that move.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on September 11, 2015, 10:25:22 PM
He talked to the elected clerk, Trudy Hershberger...
He is taking it up with the township board but he has to get them to put it on the addenda as you aren't allowed to disrupt board meetings. Nice little club they have going.
No room for "Public" comments eh?...  those pesky people just slow things down.

UNLESS - it's an election year

I thinks it's even got a name -    the Jan Jay rule  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on September 12, 2015, 09:00:29 AM
He talked to the elected clerk, Trudy Hershberger...
He is taking it up with the township board but he has to get them to put it on the addenda as you aren't allowed to disrupt board meetings. Nice little club they have going.


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Here's the article where the Lenawee County township board approved 'both' liquor licenses:

http://www.lenconnect.com/article/20150213/News/150219462 (http://www.lenconnect.com/article/20150213/News/150219462)

And this one is about them having to take one back:

http://miweb.gat.atl.publicus.com/article/20150312/News/150319656 (http://miweb.gat.atl.publicus.com/article/20150312/News/150319656)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Frenchfry on September 12, 2015, 09:42:55 AM
Classic.
New restaurant wants to open in Lambertville (Sage Steak and Seafood) at corner of Secor and Consear.  Restaurant is ready to open but has to wait a couple of weeks because Moron county health inspector is on vacation. They only have 1?
I ran into that when I tried to file a police report about having a package stolen from my porch.

The only person that could take that report was on vacation and I had to wait 'til he returned.

That was absurd. The thief could've walked down the road with the package in plain sight...and law enforcement wouldn't have known a crime was committed.

So I guess when the right demands reductions in government services...they ought to expect the consequences.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: livewire on September 12, 2015, 10:01:42 AM
He talked to the elected clerk, Trudy Hershberger...
He is taking it up with the township board but he has to get them to put it on the addenda as you aren't allowed to disrupt board meetings. Nice little club they have going.

Oh, I would have fun with that one, if I were that guy.  I know the OMA like the back of my hand.


MCL 15.263, Sec. 3
(5) A person shall be permitted to address a meeting of a public body under rules established and recorded
by the public body. The legislature or a house of the legislature may provide by rule that the right to address
may be limited to prescribed times at hearings and committee meetings only.
(6) A person shall not be excluded from a meeting otherwise open to the public except for a breach of the
peace actually committed at the meeting.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on September 12, 2015, 08:40:20 PM
I ran into that when I tried to file a police report about having a package stolen from my porch.

The only person that could take that report was on vacation and I had to wait 'til he returned.

That was absurd. The thief could've walked down the road with the package in plain sight...and law enforcement wouldn't have known a crime was committed.

So I guess when the right demands reductions in government services...they ought to expect the consequences.

Which person on this board was the thief?

You must live in a really lousy neighborhood.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: excelsior on September 12, 2015, 09:05:27 PM
You must live in a really lousy neighborhood.

He is always worried about Lincolns rolling through his hood so he may be surrounded by neighbors with BMWs, Audis and etc.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on September 14, 2015, 09:54:49 AM
Oh, I would have fun with that one, if I were that guy.  I know the OMA like the back of my hand.


MCL 15.263, Sec. 3
(5) A person shall be permitted to address a meeting of a public body under rules established and recorded
by the public body. The legislature or a house of the legislature may provide by rule that the right to address
may be limited to prescribed times at hearings and committee meetings only.
(6) A person shall not be excluded from a meeting otherwise open to the public except for a breach of the
peace actually committed at the meeting.

Like I said the Jan Jay Rule...    they put the public comment time at the end and limit you to 5 minutes...    after all they have more important stuff than be bothered by those pesky citizens
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: MarissaMGB on September 14, 2015, 11:02:33 AM
I just saw some thing going on at the old Johnny Rockets on Telegraph rd.
probly another restaurant going in that will close in 2 weeks...LMAO
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on September 15, 2015, 03:32:04 PM
They are doing  a pretty extensive renovation to that space...might actually be someone with some money.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on September 15, 2015, 11:57:46 PM
... or if a franchise they require things a certain way - regardless of what was already there.
Title: Opening of IHOP moved to Nov. 24
Post by: BigRedDog on September 17, 2015, 07:30:08 AM
Sounds like we'll need a little more patience for our pancakes :( :( :(

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/sep/17/opening-ihop-moved-nov-24/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/sep/17/opening-ihop-moved-nov-24/)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on September 17, 2015, 08:20:24 AM
My guess is some kind of franchise for the reason you said.   Guess we'll find out soon enough.

Not really an opening but there's a post by a Monroe native and his partners floating around Facebook this morning with huge news about the outlet mall.  We'll see how long MEN takes to figure this one out.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on September 17, 2015, 09:02:39 AM
My guess is some kind of franchise for the reason you said.   Guess we'll find out soon enough.

Not really an opening but there's a post by a Monroe native and his partners floating around Facebook this morning with huge news about the outlet mall.  We'll see how long MEN takes to figure this one out.

The MEN will break the story about 6 hours after the Blade, Detroit News, Freep, MLIVE, or Click on Detroit.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: arpydave on September 17, 2015, 09:39:09 AM
Yup, they still cling to the motto I suggested to them some 20+ years ago:

"Yesterday's news...tomorrow."
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on September 17, 2015, 09:59:56 AM
Moron county health official still on vac and guy with huge investment in lambertville restaurant sill waiting to recoup his investment.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: MarissaMGB on September 17, 2015, 10:13:12 AM
I Hop isn't opening till Nov 24 now............Geeeeeezzzzz :(
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on September 17, 2015, 05:32:47 PM
Here's the Facebook page posting about purchasing the outlet mall.

https://www.facebook.com/chrisharter (https://www.facebook.com/chrisharter)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: eriemermaid on September 17, 2015, 05:50:57 PM
Is the old  Johnny Rockets going to be the new Papa John's?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on September 17, 2015, 07:23:09 PM
Is the old  Johnny Rockets going to be the new Papa John's?

The Papa John's is right there in that plaza but back by the UPS Store.  I think they were supposed to open today.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on September 18, 2015, 08:27:00 PM
Here's the Facebook page posting about purchasing the outlet mall.

https://www.facebook.com/chrisharter (https://www.facebook.com/chrisharter)
Nice concept drawings... the real test will be what tenants they can attract
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on September 18, 2015, 08:41:35 PM
New restaurant in Lambertville told it will be at least 2 more weeks before they can expect the health official.  That will make a month of waiting for an appointed bureaucrat that answers to no one to do his job.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on September 18, 2015, 09:49:08 PM
New restaurant in Lambertville told it will be at least 2 more weeks before they can expect the health official.  That will make a month of waiting for an appointed bureaucrat that answers to no one to do his job.

He or she answers to someone...   I posted their staff guide back when you first mentioned this issue.  I'm afraid I'd start 'climbing' the ladder until someone gets tired of the 'squeaky wheel'.

If no one at the health department can bend then I'd be talking to my county commissioner and if that didn't work then my state representative along the line of making local government more responsive to local business.

The chance the new owner does take is really ticking off a sanitarian that they may have to work with for a long time :-\ :-\ :-\

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on September 18, 2015, 10:00:37 PM
The gal that bought the former Harwood Plaza is doing a nice job of getting things dressed up and looking better.  This is in the building where the pill pusher doctor was located.  Right at the middle where the auction place was they are putting in an 'event center'.  Seating up to 1100 people will certainly be an addition to the area.  Their Facebook page says they should be open now but I drove by this week and they still have quite a bit to do.  An email exchange suggested April 1st as a 'done by' date.

She must have hired the same contractors all those other 'opening soon' restaurants used ;) ;) ;)

https://www.facebook.com/River-Raisin-Event-Center-369436166585565/timeline/ (https://www.facebook.com/River-Raisin-Event-Center-369436166585565/timeline/)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on September 18, 2015, 10:30:04 PM
New restaurant in Lambertville told it will be at least 2 more weeks before they can expect the health official.  That will make a month of waiting for an appointed bureaucrat that answers to no one to do his job.
Just open... they will show up real quick then!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on September 18, 2015, 10:53:38 PM
BRD,,that's the feedback I got second hand.  Owner has to endure health inspector as long as he's in business and not wanting to tick him/her off.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on September 19, 2015, 08:52:04 AM
Just open... they will show up real quick then!

With a big 'red tag' to put right across the front door :o :o :o

BRD,,that's the feedback I got second hand.  Owner has to endure health inspector as long as he's in business and not wanting to tick him/her off.

So does this mean that none of the restaurants in Bedford are under any 'threat' of a walk in inspection for this month long vacation?  The restaurant owners I know do talk among themselves and it doesn't seem like it would take long for this info to get out.

"Quick...   time to use up those potatoes we bought when Aramark had their going out of business sale" ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on September 19, 2015, 09:18:09 AM
Article on the front page of the MonroeNews this morning on the company that has purchased the outlet mall.  The article says they plan to invest $2M into the project.  Not sure if that was including or in addition to the purchase price ($695,000).  Lots of mention about the high number of positive comments on his Facebook page announcement.  I'll be curious as to how many of these same people will shop there once it's open.

I don't think he can have an entire mall of Dollar type stores :o :o :o
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on September 19, 2015, 09:22:25 AM
Nice concept drawings... the real test will be what tenants they can attract

It probably didn't cost them $200 for the drawings...

making it look like the drawings is even realistic with what they want to do.

Getting enough tenants in there to make it 'sustainable' may be the most difficult part :-\ :-\ :-\

I wish him and his partners well.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 19, 2015, 02:31:07 PM
Article on the front page of the MonroeNews this morning on the company that has purchased the outlet mall.  The article says they plan to invest $2M into the project.  Not sure if that was including or in addition to the purchase price ($695,000).  Lots of mention about the high number of positive comments on his Facebook page announcement.  I'll be curious as to how many of these same people will shop there once it's open.

I don't think he can have an entire mall of Dollar type stores :o :o :o

I find it interesting that the Monroe outlet mall is the only one (around here) that went tits up.  Some kind of stigma associated with that area, even the Burglar King wasn't successful..

At least the fireworks store is doing ok....
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on September 22, 2015, 09:38:02 AM
Here's the article from the MonroeNews:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/sep/22/outlet-mall-aquired/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/sep/22/outlet-mall-aquired/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on September 23, 2015, 07:32:37 PM
Someone is definitely putting some money into the Johnny Rockets.   The whole place is fenced off now I assume for some major construction on the facade.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on September 25, 2015, 07:42:15 AM
Someone is definitely putting some money into the Johnny Rockets.   The whole place is fenced off now I assume for some major construction on the facade.

Take a walk around the project.  By now they should have a building permit posted somewhere.  Sometimes it is real obvious what is going on based on names on the permit and other times it won't make any sense whatsoever.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on September 27, 2015, 09:01:49 AM
It didn't look like a restaurant with the glass clear.

More like store space.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on September 27, 2015, 09:17:59 AM
Probably is Mav getting a jump on me for Monroe's first dispensary.   ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on September 29, 2015, 04:00:54 PM
New restaurant in Lambertville still a couple of more weeks.. Health official probably found flyshit in the pepper shakers. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on September 29, 2015, 04:43:09 PM
Probably is Mav getting a jump on me for Monroe's first dispensary.   ;D

With clear glass?

Don't dispensaries look more like pawn shops - with bars over the windows and doors?

Of course Mav is new to the business - so he may be taking a "fresh eyes" approach to it.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on September 29, 2015, 04:44:08 PM
Hey - if Mav IS opening a dispensary there - then maybe White Castle will come back!

 ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on September 29, 2015, 04:50:00 PM
I was thinking a combo White Castle, Jack In The Box, dispensary, Strip joint, bar, indoor driving range so all of us could benefit and enjoy.
Notice how I left the puddin pit out so as not to get sued for stealing Fuzz's idea.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on September 29, 2015, 04:52:05 PM
I would love a Jack in the Box again....  but isn't Michigan already unhealthy enough?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on September 29, 2015, 05:04:35 PM
I was thinking a combo White Castle, Jack In The Box, dispensary, Strip joint, bar, indoor driving range so all of us could benefit and enjoy.
Notice how I left the puddin pit out so as not to get sued for stealing Fuzz's idea.

LOL

Touché!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on September 29, 2015, 08:19:23 PM
I was thinking a combo White Castle, Jack In The Box, dispensary, Strip joint, bar, indoor driving range so all of us could benefit and enjoy.
Notice how I left the puddin pit out so as not to get sued for stealing Fuzz's idea.
I'm in...  heck with the huge pension I get I can pay cash!    ;D


I think a Jack-in-the-Box would go better than White Castle
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 02, 2015, 08:17:55 AM
Someone is definitely putting some money into the Johnny Rockets.   The whole place is fenced off now I assume for some major construction on the facade.

Drove by there a couple of times yesterday.  They have part of the roof ripped open and they have a dumpster onsite with all the old window and door frames in the dumpster.  Only a couple of guys working but they have chip board covering up all the openings.  I did look around for a building permit but if it's posted (supposed to be somewhere) it wasn't on the north side where we could see it.  Everything on the east side of the building is fenced off clear up to the shoulder on Telegraph.

On a side note when we got gas at the new Kroger Fuel Center on S. Monroe earlier in the week I noticed how stiff the new nozzle was on the pump.  Not sure if they were all that stiff but the one at my pump was bad.  I always try to 'top off' the tank in the car by feathering the nozzle but even using two hands I had trouble.  It was either 'all or nothing'...   no 'in between'!!!  That was the first time we'd bought fuel there since the new station opened.  Last time we got fuel was in Toledo at the much lower price ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 10, 2015, 09:49:04 AM
I wonder if there's any chance the former Johnny Rocket's location is being modified to be a more prominent location for the current O'Reilly's that are in the same plaza?  They've been tucked away at the back of that strip for years.  Nationally they are doing a lot of expansion so it would make sense for them to maybe want to do something to be more prominent in Monroe. 

Just a thought.  My daughter just sent me an article about all the new places opening up in Sebring.  The O'Reilly's site caught my eye because it's less than a block from an AutoZone that's been there for years. 

I have to commend that AutoZone for the help they gave my wife.  She was down there and had to put a new battery in her Mom's vehicle (hadn't been driven for months and it was completely shot).  They had one in stock but it needed charging so the clerk actually drove it over on his break and installed it.  I know they install them there at their store but had never heard of anyone driving to install one. 

Anyway, plenty going on 'new business' wise in Sebring... 

2013 population was just over 10K so much smaller than Monroe...

http://www.highlandstoday.com/hi/local-news/seven-new-business-open-in-highlands-20151010/ (http://www.highlandstoday.com/hi/local-news/seven-new-business-open-in-highlands-20151010/)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on October 10, 2015, 10:04:04 AM
I keep watching - and no clue yet or even signs of "Opening Soon"...   
(maybe they know that is the kiss of death for meeting a deadline)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 10, 2015, 08:30:43 PM
Auto Zones and O'Riely's are popping up like mushrooms on a rotten log lately.....

I use them if I need it right away but I prefer Rock Auto if I can wait a week.  So much cheaper for the same things at a supposed discount at the discount auto stores.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on October 10, 2015, 09:17:47 PM
Get a veterans disc of 10% at Autozone
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 11, 2015, 08:50:40 AM
Get a veterans disc of 10% at Autozone

I've heard that they give discount to active military... 

which in my opinion every business should try to give something to anyone in today's military!

I wasn't aware of anything they did for veterans.  I spend quite a bit there...  more than the other local stores I guess...  mostly because they're closer.

Auto Zones and O'Riely's are popping up like mushrooms on a rotten log lately.....

I use them if I need it right away but I prefer Rock Auto if I can wait a week.  So much cheaper for the same things at a supposed discount at the discount auto stores.

Yes they are.  Kind of reminds me of the days of Perry Auto Works and Perry Drug Stores...   what a combination!

They both did just fine as long as they were in the constantly 'expanding' mode but when they couldn't attract new money to expand they didn't seem to be able to make the strokes on all the money they'd borrowed from running the auto stores and the drug stores. 

The post I did about the new store in Sebring is literally within one block of the local Auto Zone store.  I can't remember if there is a 2nd AZ store in town or not.  This is all right on six lane US 27 and at the very north edge of the 'business strip' while heading south.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on October 11, 2015, 09:46:52 AM
Rumor and the shape of the facade seems to make it more feasible -   this is going to become a medical office... Urgent Care type.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 11, 2015, 09:52:58 AM
Rumor and the shape of the facade seems to make it more feasible -   this is going to become a medical office... Urgent Care type.

That would make some sense...   gotta love the rumor mill ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: nails on October 11, 2015, 10:43:40 AM

Auto Zones and O'Riely's are popping up like mushrooms on a rotten log.

I've wondered about this for some time. AZ has been putting up stores everywhere for several years. O'Reilly almost the same. But you never see more than a car or two in the parking lots. And I don't believe there's a huge markup in the items they sell, except for some small items. How do they justify all the expansion?

I believe drug stores have the huge markups.

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on October 11, 2015, 11:08:28 AM
The AutoZone on Secor by Sterns actually ask me if i was a veteran.  And didn't want and proof.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 13, 2015, 02:32:48 PM
Rumor and the shape of the facade seems to make it more feasible -   this is going to become a medical office... Urgent Care type.

I was telling my wife about your 'speculation' and she said...

"You mean another DRUG dispensary like they had out on Laplaisance Road"...

I guess they would have plenty of money to rebuild the facade for that type of an operation ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 15, 2015, 08:51:28 AM
I saw in the assumed name filing section in the business page of the paper yesterday that some guy up in Newport is doing used car auto inspections.  It was some play on words about buying a 'lemon'.  I've often wondered why someone didn't do those around here!!! 

I'm sure an inspection can't catch everything but you'd be surprised how much a good mechanic with a sharp eye and ear can tell by getting under a vehicle and then giving it a thorough test drive. 

With the current condition of our roads (bad) and the direction they're going (getting worse with no end anywhere in sight) he could not only stay busy but might have to franchise 3 or 4 other sites around the county :o :o :o
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on October 24, 2015, 08:11:54 PM
AutoZone doing things right.  Returned a battery today that was 22 months without enough oomph to start veh.
He couldn't find short but it was very low.  Shouldn't have been because car is very active.
Suggest charging but i said i'd buy a new one as my 16 yr old granddaugher drivers the veh.
He gave me a new one, free under warranty..
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: NewDawn on October 25, 2015, 08:16:14 AM
I saw in the assumed name filing section in the business page of the paper yesterday that some guy up in Newport is doing used car auto inspections.  It was some play on words about buying a 'lemon'.  I've often wondered why someone didn't do those around here!!! 

I'm sure an inspection can't catch everything but you'd be surprised how much a good mechanic with a sharp eye and ear can tell by getting under a vehicle and then giving it a thorough test drive. 




A very good idea. Several years ago, I asked Pancone's (on S. Custer Rd.) if they would inspect a used truck for my daughter. He had her come into the shop on a slow afternoon, he spent a good 50 minutes checking it out. He didn't charge me a dime. He just said "throw some business to me once in a while." Nice guy.

We had the truck four years, and sold it for close to what we paid for it.

With the current condition of our roads (bad) and the direction they're going (getting worse with no end anywhere in sight) he could not only stay busy but might have to franchise 3 or 4 other sites around the county :o :o :o
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: tnweasel on October 25, 2015, 08:52:32 AM
Get a veterans disc of 10% at Autozone

10% at Lowes.....5% at Cabelas.....husband has been on vacation this week and shopping :P
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 25, 2015, 10:19:44 PM
AutoZone doing things right.  Returned a battery today that was 22 months without enough oomph to start veh.
He couldn't find short but it was very low.  Shouldn't have been because car is very active.
Suggest charging but i said i'd buy a new one as my 16 yr old granddaugher drivers the veh.
He gave me a new one, free under warranty..

Batteries have a terrific markup on them, like 300%. FYI.  I rarely shop at autozone, I'm a Rock Auto person.  Much cheaper, like 30%.

You eure it's not your voltage regulator?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 27, 2015, 07:38:22 PM
We have business opening threads and business closing threads but no 'businesses combining' threads...

Walgreens is buying RiteAid (if it gets through the anti-trust review)...

for now the stores will keep their own identity.  I wonder how long before they close the present Rite Aid store?

Anyone want to bet on what will end up going in there (that's why I decided to put this in the Business Openings thread)?

Sure would be a nice corner for yet another pizza store...

or maybe another cell phone store 8) 8) 8)

http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/27/investing/walgreens-rite-aid-deal/index.html (http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/27/investing/walgreens-rite-aid-deal/index.html)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on October 27, 2015, 08:55:17 PM
There are two of each in Monroe, and usually where one is around the country - the other is nearby,
  can't figure out the business model there to buy up your competition and have competing stores?

That would be like McDonalds buying Burger King. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on October 28, 2015, 08:14:49 AM
Only one Rite-Aid--the chain drug store on Monroe St is a CVS, not that you can tell them apart :).   But no way are they going to keep both Walgreens and Rite-Aid open long term at Telegraph and Front/M50.   There's no business sense in that. Office Max/Office Depot eliminated competing stores within about a year. 

I read an article a couple years ago that vacant drug stores are pretty hard to fill.   The locations typically aren't great for many retailers.   They are too small for a a big box chain, too big for most other retailers, and the footprint and site layout makes it about impossible to split them into more than one usable unit.   Dollar stores like Dollar Tree are the most common chains to reuse them but Dollar Tree is already in a former Arbor Drug just down the street.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 28, 2015, 08:22:59 AM
heard that on the radio.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 28, 2015, 08:26:31 AM
There are two of each in Monroe, and usually where one is around the country - the other is nearby,
  can't figure out the business model there to buy up your competition and have competing stores?

That would be like McDonalds buying Burger King.

Typically the business model is to increase prices and profits.  The increased volume allows them to buy from their suppliers at a lower cost. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 29, 2015, 09:50:40 AM
We were out at the mall yesterday afternoon...  first time since early last spring.

The Hallmark card shop is open again in the same location. 

The heavily discounted clothing store across from Claire's is closed and someone is going to give a 'Funland' another shot!

They even have the 'Coming Soon' on their announcement banner ;) ;) ;)

They have a Halloween store out there again this year in the former Sears store but you can't get in there from the mall...  you have to enter from the Monroe street store front!

Other than that it looked pretty much the same ol' same ol'.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: arpydave on October 29, 2015, 12:36:49 PM
AutoZone doing things right.  Returned a battery today that was 22 months without enough oomph to start veh.
He couldn't find short but it was very low.  Shouldn't have been because car is very active.
Suggest charging but i said i'd buy a new one as my 16 yr old granddaugher drivers the veh.
He gave me a new one, free under warranty..

Agree. Have the voltage regulator and alternator checked. You may have gotten a one off bad battery and it's good they stand behind it and replaced it. But you don't want to be doing that again in January.

Way back in high school my Auto Mech class was rated highly in national diagnostic competitions. This was back when you set your own plug gap, dwell settings and timing, no self tensioning alternator(serpentine) belt. The first and biggest lesson was most under hood problems were electrical in origin, over 75% of the time. Could be as simple as using a carpenter's pencil to draw a line between 3 terminals inside a distributor. Don't ask me how I know that to be true.  8)

The more that vehicles are computer based you gotta have good electrical.
 
I'm not getting bad on Autozone or O'Reilly's, but they have limited tools and time. I recommend Battery Wholesale on S. Monroe. They can pull your car in and do a better comprehensive test. These days most tune ups are nothing more than oil change, new spark plugs and plug in the scan tool.

And with bad weather season coming up for y'all, I say get a set of jumper cables (even cheap azz ones) and store them over the donut spare. Nothing sux worse than your gal needing a jump start in the cold with somebody willing to help but neither one has cables.

Oh, and check the pressure on that donut spare. Trust me again. :-[
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 29, 2015, 12:52:09 PM
Batteries are a funny thing...  Always buy from a vloume dealer (the longer a battery sits on the shelf wet charged) the older it gets.  It's busy sulphating itself into oblivion waiting for you to buy it...

I always try to buy a dry charged battery (where you add the electrolyte when you buy it.  Once it's wet, the clock starts ticking).

Best bet is to buy a battery from a volume (high turnover dealer) in the maximum CCA rating you can fit in your battery tray.  Stay away from small auto shops that have batteries pineing away on the shelf, all their clocks are ticking away toward oblivion.

I think your daughter has a bad regulator which, will be integral with the alternator along with the diode trio.  A properly charged battery (14 volts) just don't die suddenly, they go slowly as the plates get shorted with lead sulphate.

I senond Battery Wholesale on Dixie.  I was there yesterday for a dry charged battery for my quad.  A bad voltage regulator 'cooked' my old one.  Replaced the regulator and had to replace the battery too.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 31, 2015, 11:38:37 AM
Well, not in Monroe County, but only missing by about a half a mile!

Seems like that happens quite often :-\ :-\ :-\

At least some of the jobs should go to Monroe County residents and there will have to be some financial benefits just from the business itself.

http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2015/10/31/Former-Raceway-Park-may-become-distribution-facility.html (http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2015/10/31/Former-Raceway-Park-may-become-distribution-facility.html)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: MarissaMGB on October 31, 2015, 05:19:08 PM
Well I just tried the Papa Johns pizza here in town,
and I can tell ya I won't go back! the pizza was awful,
the sauce had no flavor it was just some watered down
nasty taste. Now when there was a Papa Johns here in
town a few years ago there pizza was great...I just don't
know any more about stuff.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on October 31, 2015, 05:24:32 PM
The way Toledo works I'm sure there will be a number of friends and relatives of city politicians looking for jobs.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 31, 2015, 06:34:20 PM
Apparently the person that posts the photos for 13ABC must not realize they should always orient a map photo with north at the top!!!

(http://media.graytvinc.com/images/site+plan2.jpg)

Article:

http://www.13abc.com/home/headlines/Partnership-created-to--339119832.html (http://www.13abc.com/home/headlines/Partnership-created-to--339119832.html)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 03, 2015, 10:00:18 AM
This one is in Toledo but the Mancy Family is opening a catering and banquet facility!

http://www.toledoblade.com/business/2015/11/03/Mancy-family-to-add-center-for-catering-nbsp.htm (http://www.toledoblade.com/business/2015/11/03/Mancy-family-to-add-center-for-catering-nbsp.htm)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on November 03, 2015, 01:34:38 PM
The way Toledo works I'm sure there will be a number of friends and relatives of city politicians looking for jobs.

Isn't that the way everyplace works?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 03, 2015, 02:12:31 PM
Well I just tried the Papa Johns pizza here in town,
and I can tell ya I won't go back! the pizza was awful,
the sauce had no flavor it was just some watered down
nasty taste. Now when there was a Papa Johns here in
town a few years ago there pizza was great...I just don't
know any more about stuff.

I rate Pappa Johns right in there with Pizza Gut.....terrible.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on November 04, 2015, 05:33:01 PM
A new Urgent Care at the old Johnny Rockets

I also saw a sign in the window of the old Monroe Street Grill downtown announcing a new eatery coming soon
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 05, 2015, 07:00:38 AM
A new Urgent Care at the old Johnny Rockets

I also saw a sign in the window of the old Monroe Street Grill downtown announcing a new eatery coming soon

I saw that same sign at least 2 weeks ago...

I might die of starvation waiting for them to open ;) ;) ;)

Then you have the new Mexican place across the corner that got in and open without ever putting up a sign (at least I never saw one).  We tried them last night...   not bad.  At 7:15 the place was full (except at the bar) and there was one family waiting...   and they haven't even had a grand opening yet.  The food was good and the portions were what I consider generous.  Not too expensive in my opinion. 

The staff is still learning...   service was good considering the limited time they've all been working together.  A few weeks of working together and they should be able to polish it into top notch service.  We still left a 20% (plus rounded up to even dollars) tip. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 05, 2015, 07:08:23 AM
A new Urgent Care at the old Johnny Rockets

I also saw a sign in the window of the old Monroe Street Grill downtown announcing a new eatery coming soon

There's a big article at the top of the business page of the paper yesterday! 

https://www.medexpress.com/local-centers/michigan.aspx (https://www.medexpress.com/local-centers/michigan.aspx)

This is one of those places you kind of hope you don't have to ever use their services but you realize it's probably inevitable you'll have to use them some day!!!

They'll be open 7 days a week from 8am to 8pm.

The IHOP in Monroe will open on Nov 24th according to another article yesterday.

Also a little blurb about them getting started on the Starbucks.

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on November 05, 2015, 08:03:33 AM
I checked out the web site for that urgent care company.   Based on the number of locations "Opening Soon" it looks like they are doubling their size in a very short time.   That may not end well.   

I do hope they are decent and take my insurance though...the one on Stewart doesn't.   Going to urgent care for something minor is waaaaayyyy cheaper than the ER.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 05, 2015, 08:08:54 AM
I checked out the web site for that urgent care company.   Based on the number of locations "Opening Soon" it looks like they are doubling their size in a very short time.   That may not end well.   

I do hope they are decent and take my insurance though...the one on Stewart doesn't.   Going to urgent care for something minor is waaaaayyyy cheaper than the ER.

Seems like the article in the paper said they accept 'most insurances'... 

Hope that covers you too!!!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: livewire on November 05, 2015, 08:12:58 AM
I checked out the web site for that urgent care company.   Based on the number of locations "Opening Soon" it looks like they are doubling their size in a very short time.   That may not end well.   

I do hope they are decent and take my insurance though...the one on Stewart doesn't.   Going to urgent care for something minor is waaaaayyyy cheaper than the ER.

I agree 100%!!!

It's a shame more people don't use them.  We go to the Urgent Care in Dundee often, even for more "serious" issues.  When my wife badly twisted her ankle, we knew we wanted x-rays to see if she fractured something.  We also knew the ER would be very expensive, and we'd be there for hours.  We went to the Urgent Care - got to see a doctor right away.  Had x-rays and diagnosis within 20 minutes, and we were on our way home in less than an hour, with crutches, a removable cast, a diagnosis of a bad sprain but no breaks, and a MUCH smaller bill to pay.

I am a HUGE fan of good Urgent Care facilities.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 05, 2015, 08:29:30 AM
Here's the article from last night:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/nov/05/urgent-care-center-opening/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/nov/05/urgent-care-center-opening/)

I checked out the web site for that urgent care company.   Based on the number of locations "Opening Soon" it looks like they are doubling their size in a very short time.   That may not end well. 

I do hope they are decent and take my insurance though...the one on Stewart doesn't.   Going to urgent care for something minor is waaaaayyyy cheaper than the ER.


They've been open since 2001 but it doesn't say when they went into this 'expansion' phase.  Interesting that it's often easy to raise funding for a business that's in a solid expansion mode.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on November 05, 2015, 10:49:26 AM
I'm curious if Promedica will open one as well... and actually thought that may be who was on telegraph before the announcement.

The old hospital system tried that - but the problem was they still charged ER rates, must have been something to do with the parent company and regulations. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 05, 2015, 12:52:22 PM
I Hop is getting closer.  I can already taste the strawberry covered cakes....
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: arpydave on November 08, 2015, 05:44:12 AM
I checked out the web site for that urgent care company.   Based on the number of locations "Opening Soon" it looks like they are doubling their size in a very short time.   That may not end well.   

I do hope they are decent and take my insurance though...the one on Stewart doesn't.   Going to urgent care for something minor is waaaaayyyy cheaper than the ER.

Very agree. Sliced the web between my left thumb and index finger and the one on Stewart stitched it right up. Still having problems playing guitar but that's my bad on after care.

Make sure you have the hours of your Urgent Care locations. Ambulance and other included treatment costs to what providers later consider for non-life threatening calls to the ER are through the roof. Trust me.  :-[

But I felt like crud a few weeks ago and dragged myself to my laptop to look up the Urgent Care 2 blocks away at about 8 am. They only open from 1 to 7 on Sat. Tuffed it out. Didn't want to bug my Sis.  :'(

After she related it to her other retired health care people (RN, APN, Docs) they say I probably had an pulmonary embolism (after surgery complication). They say I'm lucky to be alive.

Bottom line: know the hours. ER is open 24/7. Your Doc is 10 to 5. Urgent Care is the gap. But you pay for what you get and need. No ethical health care provider will turn you away based on your triage. It will just be up to you to square up after, like if your car broke down and you still need it to get to work. We all pay the piper.









Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 08, 2015, 09:49:23 AM
Very agree. Sliced the web between my left thumb and index finger and the one on Stewart stitched it right up. Still having problems playing guitar but that's my bad on after care.

Make sure you have the hours of your Urgent Care locations. Ambulance and other included treatment costs to what providers later consider for non-life threatening calls to the ER are through the roof. Trust me.  :-[

But I felt like crud a few weeks ago and dragged myself to my laptop to look up the Urgent Care 2 blocks away at about 8 am. They only open from 1 to 7 on Sat. Tuffed it out. Didn't want to bug my Sis.  :'(

After she related it to her other retired health care people (RN, APN, Docs) they say I probably had an pulmonary embolism (after surgery complication). They say I'm lucky to be alive.

Bottom line: know the hours. ER is open 24/7. Your Doc is 10 to 5. Urgent Care is the gap. But you pay for what you get and need. No ethical health care provider will turn you away based on your triage. It will just be up to you to square up after, like if your car broke down and you still need it to get to work. We all pay the piper.

A suggestion to anyone/everyone with a smart phone/tablet/computer.  Use Itriage!!!  It's an app (free) on both Android and Apple based mobile devices and here is the link to their website for your larger equipment:

https://www.itriagehealth.com/ (https://www.itriagehealth.com/)

You can quickly search symptoms in a medical emergency and based on either your GPS or an address you can come up with a list of emergency care facilities.

When I first saw arpydave's post I grabbed my tablet to check and see if the 'new' place was showing up (I didn't expect it would be but kind of wanted to see how long before it does end up there). 

I have mine set to give me 'closest' facilities based on my present gps location.  I was surprised that the closest facility that showed up was still the Bedford Urgent Care on Lewis...  my dentist is next door so I've watched the decline of the building over the last few years.  It's been closed for probably close to two years by now if not longer.   

My point is you still have to take everything lightly...   modern technology is only as good as the data that someone puts in (or in this case should have taken out).  I will try contacting them to initiate a correction or update of their data. 

I think the Bedford Urgent Care was/is related to the facility on Alexis down by Menard's which shows up about 3rd or 4th on my list.

This is info you quite often have stored in the back of your brain but it may be hard to remember it all during a crisis or out and out life and death emergency!

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 08, 2015, 10:17:21 AM
Not a new business by any means but they've just made a major move from tucked away on E. Front street to some major exposure on S. Dixie directly across from Michigan Bar and Grill and between AutoZone and the closed up car wash (Don's?).

OurHouse Games!

In the day and age of electronics they're a bit of a throwback or 'retro' gaming store!

http://ourhousegames.com/ (http://ourhousegames.com/)

Their website is still showing their old address but you can't miss it on S. Dixie!!!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 09, 2015, 03:32:46 PM
I hope they do a better job on the parking lot here in Monroe than they did at this new store down in Mississippi:


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTTIyvsUAAA7Uaa.jpg)


http://gawker.com/hungry-ihop-parking-lot-collapses-devours-12-cars-whol-1741316411 (http://gawker.com/hungry-ihop-parking-lot-collapses-devours-12-cars-whol-1741316411)

This was not a sinkhole but rather a fault with the way the parking lot was built.  I'm thinking they did one of those under lot water retention systems and somebody forgot to hook something up right...  I know they've had a lot rain down there with the hurricane going through and some other storms too. 

Their new motto is 'stop in for a tall stack of pancakes and wait until we un-stack your car'!!!

I wonder if the waitresses are all stacked as well as the cars in the parking lot are ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on November 09, 2015, 09:32:29 PM
Mayor Percy Bland said the cave-in appears to be over the site of a former city culvert, according to WTOK.

(http://media.graytvinc.com/images/Sinkhole90.jpg)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: excelsior on November 09, 2015, 10:06:38 PM

Looks like someone put a long culvert on a creek.

https://goo.gl/maps/PULnz3eMwJ22 (https://goo.gl/maps/PULnz3eMwJ22)


video

http://www.weather.com/news/weather/video/50-foot-sinkhole-swallows-cars (http://www.weather.com/news/weather/video/50-foot-sinkhole-swallows-cars)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on November 09, 2015, 10:11:25 PM
So this same culvert goes under the Expressway, I wonder if it will cave in too.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: excelsior on November 09, 2015, 10:30:23 PM
So this same culvert goes under the Expressway, I wonder if it will cave in too.

It is not a straight line to the creek on the other side of the highway.  It elbows somehow.   I am guessing the highway is cement construction and then it transitions to the metal culvert past the roads.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 10, 2015, 07:47:47 PM
This culvert was not round...   it was 27 feet wide by 18 feet high.  I've seen them like that and always figured they'd be weaker than a round culvert.

I wonder if that silver Chevy will make it until they start to haul vehicles out...  maybe tomorrow!

http://www.meridianstar.com/news/officials-say-failure-of-storm-water-drain-cause-of-collapse/article_27124fe0-875f-11e5-bdd2-7b674508fb61.html (http://www.meridianstar.com/news/officials-say-failure-of-storm-water-drain-cause-of-collapse/article_27124fe0-875f-11e5-bdd2-7b674508fb61.html)

(http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/meridianstar.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/5/bb/5bbcea48-875f-11e5-abba-57e1d5ff9808/56416d4b27e36.image.jpg?resize=760%2C507)

You can see where they've filled the property a couple of different times.  Gotta love that red clay ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 11, 2015, 07:53:14 AM
I've been looking at the photo above...

notice not a single section of the concrete has broken during the cave-in!!!

I'm wondering where the parking lot 'drain' was for the section that collapsed?

My initial thought when I looked at the photo was they had installed a 'flash' rain water retention system under the pavement rather than a retention pond.  I haven't seen a retention pond in any of the aerial photos so maybe because of the proximity to the creek it wasn't required (or maybe they're just not required in Mississippi). 

As much fill as was over the top of that culvert they should have been able to drive a column of tanks the length of it without it collapsing!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 14, 2015, 08:17:27 AM
Front page of the paper this morning...
a major business expansion in the area...

Phoenix Theaters to add 4 more screens including one 3 stories tall at their Mall of Monroe location!!!

That should help pump some much needed new life into the mall.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on November 14, 2015, 08:48:43 AM
Wow, hard to believe with all the ways you can get movies over the internet and watch on your 60" TV. I though theaters were a dying breed.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Frenchfry on November 14, 2015, 12:09:18 PM
I've been looking at the photo above...

notice not a single section of the concrete has broken during the cave-in!!!
I hope someone will reuse those instead of just crushing 'em.

I reused mine by using a concrete saw to cut along the joint lines and turning the walkway to eliminate the broken sections.

That way the aged color matched the aged porch...and I saved money.

I should say that I don't own an actual concrete saw...I just used an 8-1/4 circular saw (just a little larger than the 7-1/4) and modified a cast off 14" masonry abrasive blade. I'm sure the dust wasn't good for the electric tool so that's why I used a fan to blow it away.

Sliced right through the slabs...and even the pipes that held the sections together.

And I've seen people create sort of a mosaic out of broken concrete sections... making either a patio or a pathway.

I'm sort of considering my options now to change up my gravel drive.

Maybe pavers on the approach...from the road to the driveway gate...and something cheaper beyond that.

Wow, hard to believe with all the ways you can get movies over the internet and watch on your 60" TV. I though theaters were a dying breed.
I agree. It seems people would naturally avoid going to germ laden theaters.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on November 15, 2015, 08:19:02 PM
Pavers are nice for a sidewalk - but I'm not sure how they would hold up under a driveway use - with our weather and "salt" adding to the fun.

I only go to a movie about once a year - but apparently its a popular think if they are adding on.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 16, 2015, 10:06:46 AM
Wow, hard to believe with all the ways you can get movies over the internet and watch on your 60" TV. I though theaters were a dying breed.

Some people just have to see a movie on the 'first day of release' and some just seem to enjoy 'the experience' but I'm with you...   I enjoy dressing (or even undressing) any way I want and maybe enjoy a beverage I couldn't have at the theater.



Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 17, 2015, 11:22:29 AM
I'm not finding any info that they've actually determined a cause for the parking lot collapse at the IHOP...

Did find this article with some video of them removing the vehicles!

http://www.msnewsnow.com/story/30495540/epic-ihop-sinkhole-vehicles-hauled-up-and-out (http://www.msnewsnow.com/story/30495540/epic-ihop-sinkhole-vehicles-hauled-up-and-out)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on November 24, 2015, 03:50:05 PM
Got an "Invitation" to the "Open House" at "Med Express" at 1261 North Telegraph - I think that was Johnny Rockets?

Open House is Dec 1, Open Dec 2.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on November 25, 2015, 08:38:02 AM
Got an "Invitation" to the "Open House" at "Med Express" at 1261 North Telegraph - I think that was Johnny Rockets?

Open House is Dec 1, Open Dec 2.
Must be lots of $$ in their model...   put a lot of work into the reconfiguration of the building...   although the location is good with parking and access via traffic light.

Will be curious to see if they do the one stop shop with their own pharmacy as well...
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on November 25, 2015, 03:55:09 PM
Must be lots of $$ in their model...   put a lot of work into the reconfiguration of the building...   although the location is good with parking and access via traffic light.

Will be curious to see if they do the one stop shop with their own pharmacy as well...

You would think they would - but then again pharmacists aren't cheap, and all night drug stores are plentiful.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 25, 2015, 06:25:08 PM
Must be lots of $$ in their model...   put a lot of work into the reconfiguration of the building...   although the location is good with parking and access via traffic light.

Will be curious to see if they do the one stop shop with their own pharmacy as well...

I went through their website and checked a few of their shops and I didn't see any that reference a pharmacy of their own. 

I drove by there about lunch time and the sign truck was there hanging the sign on the front of the building. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 03, 2015, 09:08:35 AM
Jimmy John's "may" be opening an outlet on the SE corner of Jones and S. Monroe street.  That puts it in the city (barely).  That lot has been vacant for decades.  I remember buying gas from the Shell station that was there in the 80s.  I've always figured that lot was possibly contaminated from leaking storage tanks the reason it hadn't sold. 

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/dec/03/new-jimmy-johns-may-open-monroe/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/dec/03/new-jimmy-johns-may-open-monroe/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 03, 2015, 12:54:43 PM
Jimmy John's "may" be opening an outlet on the SE corner of Jones and S. Monroe street.  That puts it in the city (barely).  That lot has been vacant for decades.  I remember buying gas from the Shell station that was there in the 80s.  I've always figured that lot was possibly contaminated from leaking storage tanks the reason it hadn't sold. 

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/dec/03/new-jimmy-johns-may-open-monroe/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/dec/03/new-jimmy-johns-may-open-monroe/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter[/url])


LOL! 

As always the Monroe Evening News is right on it.

That meeting was on November 23.  They publish it on December 3.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: arpydave on December 04, 2015, 07:30:50 AM
Yeah, must have been a slow day on Yahoo and Google News; nothing for them to copy and pasta so they said What the heck! and used this to fill up space.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 04, 2015, 07:39:18 AM
Yeah, must have been a slow day on Yahoo and Google News; nothing for them to copy and pasta so they said What the heck! and used this to fill up space.

The article appeared in print on the back page of the paper on Wednesday.  This week 'that' was the Business page so it appears they were just 'saving' the article for that.  Wednesday is always the 'business' day but it seems they're still tinkering with where to put the business page.

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on December 04, 2015, 09:25:23 AM
Yeah, must have been a slow day on Yahoo and Google News; nothing for them to copy and pasta so they said What the heck! and used this to fill up space.

Thanksgiving was a slow news day on Yahoo and Google which is the day they would have harvested articles for the following Wednesday's paper.

The sad thing is good things are happening in Monroe, they are being called about them ahead of time, and their standard response is "we don't cover that sort of thing."   A decent writer could write a compelling article that people would actually want to read about these events and they could print those instead of rehashing national/global news that's been all over the internet for 3-4 days before they waste space printing it.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 04, 2015, 09:39:45 PM
Thanksgiving was a slow news day on Yahoo and Google which is the day they would have harvested articles for the following Wednesday's paper.

The sad thing is good things are happening in Monroe, they are being called about them ahead of time, and their standard response is "we don't cover that sort of thing."   A decent writer could write a compelling article that people would actually want to read about these events and they could print those instead of rehashing national/global news that's been all over the internet for 3-4 days before they waste space printing it.

I think they are convinced that good news doesn't sell - which I think is a self fulfilling prophecy when they print very little of it.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 04, 2015, 11:39:47 PM
One question for those who know....  Is the IHop open yet?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on December 04, 2015, 11:43:56 PM
One question for those who know....  Is the IHop open yet?

Wasn't open tonight.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on December 05, 2015, 10:48:56 PM
One question for those who know....  Is the IHop open yet?

I stopped in today and asked and they said they will open Wednesday Dec. 9th.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: arpydave on December 05, 2015, 11:27:48 PM
TYVM Tiny, I will forward that info to my older Son as he and his bud are fanatics and are tired of going to Toledo to get their "fix". LOL
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 06, 2015, 01:28:56 PM
I stopped in today and asked and they said they will open Wednesday Dec. 9th.

That is assuming the Health Department Sanitarian isn't on their annual Thanksgiving to Christmas vacation ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 06, 2015, 07:35:25 PM
Didn't know there was an IHop in Toledo.  Waffle house for sure...
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: arpydave on December 06, 2015, 09:15:12 PM
There was several years ago, I think they got raided for undocumented workers, don't know if they recovered from that.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on December 06, 2015, 09:28:18 PM
On Talmadge by Franklin Park mall.  Gone now as you mentioned. Guy was laundering money, hiring illegals probably couple other things. I think owner was one of those fine upstanding fellows from the Mid East.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on December 07, 2015, 08:14:15 AM
There are 3 ihop locations in Toledo.   I think one on Central closed and reopened as a Denny's pretty soon after but the one Talmadge is still open.     

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 07, 2015, 08:33:52 AM
There are 3 ihop locations in Toledo.   I think one on Central closed and reopened as a Denny's pretty soon after but the one Talmadge is still open.     

There are 3 in the Toledo area although technically I don't think any of them are actually in the City of Toledo...   wonder if that is by design?

There is one on the south side of Airport Highway just as you get off 23-475 southbound.  Unfortunately, we've had the 'opportunity' to visit them way more lately than I would like to...   nothing against Ihop but rather we're there because my wife has been using Toledo Express Airport a lot in the last couple of years.

We like to leave home early for her flights so we've got some 'cushion' on time to get there and then as long as we don't run into a traffic issue on the freeway we stop at Ihop and have breakfast.

A 'tip' for anyone going to Ihop (or any number of other 'chain' restaurants)...

buy gift cards at Kroger before you go and quite often (I don't know the time frames) you can get double and even 4X the Fuel Reward Points.  Those add up fast even for just the two of us.

Here's a map to their website showing the 3 stores.  I guess the one on Talmadge is probably in Toledo (maybe Ottawa Hills):

https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome-psyapi2&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8&q=Ihop%20toledo&oq=Ihop%20toledo&rlz=1C1GGGE_enUS481US482&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.3153j0j7 (https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome-psyapi2&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8&q=Ihop%20toledo&oq=Ihop%20toledo&rlz=1C1GGGE_enUS481US482&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.3153j0j7)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 07, 2015, 11:10:39 PM
On Talmadge by Franklin Park mall.  Gone now as you mentioned. Guy was laundering money, hiring illegals probably couple other things. I think owner was one of those fine upstanding fellows from the Mid East.

I'm suprised more motels aren't busted...  Everyone is owned by a raghead.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: MarissaMGB on December 09, 2015, 01:03:56 PM
I just came from driving by the I Hop... and I don't think there
is one parking spot left in the lot, I will wait a few days till I go
so its not so crowded.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 09, 2015, 05:36:57 PM
Yep!

The day Flip has been waiting for!

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/dec/09/ihop-now- (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/dec/09/ihop-now-)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 09, 2015, 06:09:16 PM
The BIG question is...  Who is gonna meet who at the I-Hop for a stack of strawberry covered pancakes????
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 11, 2015, 07:45:09 AM
Well, this is just an 'expansion' of an existing business and it's not even in Monroe County but I'm still glad to see it happening and especially the way it's happening!

Jiffy Mix over in Chelsea is putting on a major expansion and automation project:

Read more at: http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/dec/10/michigan-maker-jiffy-mix-planning-35m-expansion/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/dec/10/michigan-maker-jiffy-mix-planning-35m-expansion/)

But rather than 'dump' all the employees ASAP they're going about it a little different...

kind of the way we 'used' to do things ;) ;) ;)

Quote
The company's workforce likely will decline from about 315 employees to about 240, Holmes said, but that will be done without layoffs. He said about half of the company's workers are approaching retirement age, so when they leave old jobs won't be filled. "We could have done this and forced people out of their jobs, but that's not how we wanted to do it," Holmes said.



I went on a field trip with at least one of my kids to Chelsea and the Jiffy Mix plant...   

I thought it was very interesting although I could tell that some of the parents didn't feel the same way ;) ;) ;)


Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: indy99 on December 11, 2015, 01:26:31 PM
Well we tried the new  Julies Cafe Diner on the corner of Front st. and Monroe st.

Honestly only one word...........  YUCK!!!!!!!

Pannini turkey sandwich...... pre made then reheated in a microwave.   How hard is it to make a fresh one.  0/10

Bacon and egg breakfast sandwich.... a puddle of oil in the bottom of the basket.  Did not taste fresh. Terrible 0/10

Table next to us had a quiche. Yup pre made and then microwaved.  She said it was cold in the center and tasteless.   A big fat Zero on that one.

I do not see a great future for this place.  If we wanted pre made frozen crap we would have purchased from the grocery store an reheated them up ourselves.  Oil at the bottom of the basket is just gross. Simply gross.

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on December 11, 2015, 05:43:41 PM
Well we tried the new  Julies Cafe Diner on the corner of Front st. and Monroe st.

Honestly only one word...........  YUCK!!!!!!!

Pannini turkey sandwich...... pre made then reheated in a microwave.   How hard is it to make a fresh one.  0/10

Bacon and egg breakfast sandwich.... a puddle of oil in the bottom of the basket.  Did not taste fresh. Terrible 0/10

Table next to us had a quiche. Yup pre made and then microwaved.  She said it was cold in the center and tasteless.   A big fat Zero on that one.

I do not see a great future for this place.  If we wanted pre made frozen crap we would have purchased from the grocery store an reheated them up ourselves.  Oil at the bottom of the basket is just gross. Simply gross.
I've had all of the items that you mentioned, and I'm happy to say that my experience was 100% opposite of yours.
Not to mention that I stood in the kitchen talking with Julie while she made my breakfast sandwich, that was awesome...not greasy at all.
Had the quiche for lunch one day, and it was very tasty...loved the flaky crust!
I stopped in on my way home tonight and witnessed the panini process in action...using a panini press, not a microwave.
None of her items are frozen, but most items are available as a "grab & go" so you can take out one of her fabulous dinners to heat up at home...my favorite is the pistachio chicken!

Perhaps you should have talked to Julie or Jen...as one of them are there all of the time. The only way a business can succeed is by getting better...and constructive criticism helps them to improve. Bashing them on Monroe Talks does no one any good...unless you are a competitor!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: indy99 on December 11, 2015, 06:52:00 PM
Not a competitor, not in the food biz.  It was truly a poor dining experience .  My companion was also very surprised by how the food turned out.    We go out quite often and love to try out new restaurants.  Unfortunately this one really dropped the ball.

Perhaps you were lucky and the food was prepared fresh for you.  It was the server who told us about items pre made and microwaved.   In a few months we may give it a second chance but I would like to see more reviews on them.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 12, 2015, 07:00:27 PM
It sounds like that server needs a new career if they are giving out incorrect information!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 12, 2015, 08:20:53 PM
Speaking of business...  Cheap azzed State of Michigan is too dam cheeap to enclose a return envelope with the Corporate renewal form...thats 25 bucks a year...

Bastages.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on December 12, 2015, 09:19:05 PM
Speaking of business...  Cheap azzed State of Michigan is too dam cheeap to enclose a return envelope with the Corporate renewal form...thats 25 bucks a year...

Bastages.

Pay them online. Twice they accused us of not paying even though I had the copy of the canceled checks they cashed. I ended up paying again to get it cleared up.

My son mailed his State taxes last year and they claimed the check bounced even though there was plenty of money to cover it. When he checked with the bank it was never turned in to them for payment. Then they fined him and added interest. He had to go to the bank and have them write a letter saying that the check was never turned in to the bank for payment. Nothing like guilty until proven innocent. State of Michigan Treasury Dept. is full of nit wits.     
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 12, 2015, 10:43:33 PM
Pay them online. Twice they accused us of not paying even though I had the copy of the canceled checks they cashed. I ended up paying again to get it cleared up.

My son mailed his State taxes last year and they claimed the check bounced even though there was plenty of money to cover it. When he checked with the bank it was never turned in to them for payment. Then they fined him and added interest. He had to go to the bank and have them write a letter saying that the check was never turned in to the bank for payment. Nothing like guilty until proven innocent. State of Michigan Treasury Dept. is full of nit wits.   

But there are those among us who think that Government is the solution to all of our problems.....
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on December 13, 2015, 04:13:55 PM
Had the quiche for lunch one day, and it was very tasty...loved the flaky crust!

You Yuppie!

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on December 13, 2015, 07:11:16 PM
You Yuppie!
Nah...I don't fit that stereotype. I like guns and pickup trucks too much, lol
And an occasional piece of quiche, lol
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 13, 2015, 08:11:22 PM
Nah...I don't fit that stereotype. I like guns and pickup trucks too much, lol
And an occasional piece of quiche, lol

Nothing wrong with it but the name.

Its just egg pie, and who doesn't like pie?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on December 13, 2015, 08:59:41 PM
Nah...I don't fit that stereotype. I like guns and pickup trucks too much, lol
And an occasional piece of quiche, lol

A diversionary tactic.   ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tim Heiss on December 13, 2015, 10:07:36 PM
I prefer making a frittata. I make usually make it with a hashbrown/cheese "crust" but it can't be called quiche because there's no milk or cream in it.

Peppers, sweet onions, mushrooms,  and bacon of course. Sometimes with some sausage or sausage gravy.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: sammy on December 13, 2015, 10:14:48 PM
I prefer making a frittata. I make usually make it with a hashbrown/cheese "crust" but it can't be called quiche because there's no milk or cream in it.

Peppers, sweet onions, mushrooms,  and bacon of course. Sometimes with some sausage or sausage gravy.
Or, for the common folk, an omelet, or scrambled eggs without the scrambling. A frittata  is just a pretentious omelet.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tim Heiss on December 14, 2015, 12:07:50 AM
Or, for the common folk, an omelet, or scrambled eggs without the scrambling. A frittata  is just a pretentious omelet.
A frittata is not an omelet, but hey thanks for showing both your lack of knowledge combined with being a jerk. You truly are the epitome of the crassness on the forum.

Well done.

A frittata starts on the stove and finished off in the oven. I top it off with a layer of cheese that is baked golden brown, cooked in a cast iron skillet and about 1 1/2 thick and cut into slices, like a pizza.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on December 14, 2015, 09:06:14 AM
I prefer making a frittata. I make usually make it with a hashbrown/cheese "crust" but it can't be called quiche because there's no milk or cream in it.

Peppers, sweet onions, mushrooms,  and bacon of course. Sometimes with some sausage or sausage gravy.
You guys are making me hungry!   and I love breakfast... 

I didn't know how to make one - and in Sammy's defense the ingredients are pretty close to a Farmer's omelette...   
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 14, 2015, 09:15:34 AM
You guys are making me hungry!   and I love breakfast... 

I didn't know how to make one - and in Sammy's defense the ingredients are pretty close to a Farmer's omelette...   



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Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tim Heiss on December 14, 2015, 09:46:04 AM
You guys are making me hungry!   and I love breakfast... 

I didn't know how to make one - and in Sammy's defense the ingredients are pretty close to a Farmer's omelette...
That is why I was trying to explain the differences between a quiche, an omlet and a frittata. Many of the same ingredients just different preparations.

Forgive me for trying to educate people, we know some would rather remain ignorant.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: livewire on December 14, 2015, 10:00:16 AM
A frittata is not an omelet, but hey thanks for showing both your lack of knowledge combined with being a jerk. You truly are the epitome of the crassness on the forum.

Well done.


Sammy's comment was NOT crass, in my opinion.  The ingredients ARE the same, although it's cooked differently.

Your comments and name calling were out of line.

To quote you, "Well done".    8*
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: sammy on December 14, 2015, 10:15:13 AM
A frittata is not an omelet, but hey thanks for showing both your lack of knowledge combined with being a jerk. You truly are the epitome of the crassness on the forum.

Well done.

A frittata starts on the stove and finished off in the oven. I top it off with a layer of cheese that is baked golden brown, cooked in a cast iron skillet and about 1 1/2 thick and cut into slices, like a pizza.
Thanks for showing your complete lack of a sense of humor.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tea Party Patriot on December 14, 2015, 10:27:24 AM
This is an argument I can get in to.  Quiche and fritatas are for sissyboy elitist liberal wimps.!  Real men eat plain old eggs with bacon or sausage and white toast end of story.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: MarissaMGB on December 14, 2015, 10:34:19 AM
Ok not to change the subject BUT.......
The new add on to Kroger store, I want to like it
but its just set up so WEIRD!!! and it will take a long
time to get use to it and learn where everything is. I
will probly still end up shopping at Meijer even though
its at the other end of town :/
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 14, 2015, 10:54:36 AM
This is an argument I can get in to.  Quiche and fritatas are for sissyboy elitist liberal wimps.!  Real men eat plain old eggs with bacon or sausage and white toast end of story.

Nothing like keeping the cholesterol levels high...............
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tim Heiss on December 14, 2015, 11:25:58 AM
Sammy's comment was NOT crass, in my opinion.  The ingredients ARE the same, although it's cooked differently.

Your comments and name calling were out of line.

To quote you, "Well done".    8*
Ganging up on me again? How original. 8*
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: sammy on December 14, 2015, 11:37:12 AM
Ganging up on me again? How original. 8*
And I thought Frenchie was the paranoid one!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tim Heiss on December 14, 2015, 11:39:36 AM
Thanks for showing your complete lack of a sense of humor.
So your statement about a frittata being an omelet for you "common folk" was you trying to be humorous, and in no way an accusation of me trying to be pretentious?

My apologies good sir, I was completely unaware of your inability to be humorous.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 14, 2015, 11:57:15 AM
Ok not to change the subject BUT.......
The new add on to Kroger store, I want to like it
but its just set up so WEIRD!!! and it will take a long
time to get use to it and learn where everything is. I
will probly still end up shopping at Meijer even though
its at the other end of town :/

It can only be a matter of time and Meijer will be remodeling their store too so then what are you going to do?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 14, 2015, 12:00:34 PM
This is an argument I can get in to.  Quiche and fritatas are for sissyboy elitist liberal wimps.!  Real men eat plain old eggs with bacon or sausage and white toast end of story.

I prefer ham and bacon and sausage when I go out for breakfast (not real often anymore)!!!

Nothing like keeping the cholesterol levels high...............

My wife keeps my cholesterol so low with her cooking that they actually had to take me off some of my meds because I got down so low!!!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: sammy on December 14, 2015, 12:15:25 PM
So your statement about a frittata being an omelet for you "common folk" was you trying to be humorous, and in no way an accusation of me trying to be pretentious?

My apologies good sir, I was completely unaware of your inability to be humorous.
Why would you think I was poking at you for being pretentious? I've made frittatas before, and I'm not the least bit pretentious.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on December 14, 2015, 12:41:24 PM
LOL.....I had never even heard of them before until this debate. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 14, 2015, 12:46:01 PM
Thanks for showing your complete lack of a sense of humor.

Yet another data point showing that.....

How sad.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tim Heiss on December 14, 2015, 01:01:44 PM
Why would you think I was poking at you for being pretentious?
Maybe because you used the word pretentious when describing it?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tim Heiss on December 14, 2015, 01:12:55 PM
Yet another data point showing that.....

How sad.
And yet another ignorant boob feeling the need to chime in.

I'm sorry guys but I prefer boobs that are intelligent.

And perky.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: sammy on December 14, 2015, 01:35:04 PM
Maybe because you used the word pretentious when describing it?
I also used the word omelet; why didn't you take offense at that? You may need a bit thicker skin.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: MarissaMGB on December 14, 2015, 01:52:30 PM
It can only be a matter of time and Meijer will be remodeling their store too so then what are you going to do?
[/quote  They just remodel it not to long ago so I doubt that.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 14, 2015, 02:03:05 PM
And yet another ignorant boob feeling the need to chime in.

I'm sorry guys but I prefer boobs that are intelligent.

And perky.

Why all the name calling?

Can't we keep the conversation light a jovial for once?

It's about egg dishes for crying out loud.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tim Heiss on December 14, 2015, 02:12:19 PM
Can't we keep the conversation light a jovial for once?

It's about egg dishes for crying out loud.
I know right?

I made a comment, sammy made a snarky reply, I called him out on it, and Livewire and yourself felt obliged to back him up.

It's like you all are just following me around looking for an excuse to attack me.

It's just sad. You should all seek professional help.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tea Party Patriot on December 14, 2015, 02:14:18 PM
Being a republican bro to MonroeNative can I get in on the Tim Heiss bashing?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: sammy on December 14, 2015, 03:04:50 PM
I know right?

I made a comment, sammy made a snarky reply, I called him out on it, and Livewire and yourself felt obliged to back him up.

It's like you all are just following me around looking for an excuse to attack me.

It's just sad. You should all seek professional help.

My remark was not meant to be snarky, and you are the only one who took it that way. NO ONE is attacking you!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on December 14, 2015, 03:44:37 PM
LOL.....I had never even heard of them before until this debate. 
Really?
 - well Krogers is on S. Monroe St. 
and Meijers is on N. Telegraph   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 14, 2015, 04:15:24 PM
I know right?

I made a comment, sammy made a snarky reply, I called him out on it, and Livewire and yourself felt obliged to back him up.

It's like you all are just following me around looking for an excuse to attack me.

It's just sad. You should all seek professional help.

Baby Hitler - it seems as if you are getting a little paranoid in your old age....  or middle age.....  or whatever age you are.

It just seemed like an opportune time to point out you don't have much of a sense of humor.

Nothing about this conversation has changed my mind on that point.

Sammy doesn't need my help.  He does a pretty good job putting you down all on his own, and I have to say he does it in a very nice way.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tim Heiss on December 14, 2015, 04:28:46 PM
Being a republican bro to MonroeNative can I get in on the Tim Heiss bashing?
Why not? They need at least 3 more before it's a fair fight.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tim Heiss on December 14, 2015, 04:32:32 PM


Sammy doesn't need my help.  He does a pretty good job putting you down all on his own, and I have to say he does it in a very nice way.
I have to give you credit, at least you acknowledged that he was attempting to put me down.

He just keeps denying it.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 14, 2015, 04:35:49 PM
I have to give you credit, at least you acknowledged that he was attempting to put me down.

He just keeps denying it.

Sammy seems like an honorable person.

Perhaps he is not putting you down at all, but it is just so easy to put you down it just comes off that way?

I will take his word for it that he in no way intended to put you down.

Perhaps you should as well?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: sammy on December 14, 2015, 04:50:08 PM
I have to give you credit, at least you acknowledged that he was attempting to put me down.

He just keeps denying it.
When and if I ever want to "put you down" There will be absolutely no doubt in anyone's mind. Meanwhile, just try to relax and realize that what I said was in jest, and quit trying so hard to be put upon. It's eggs fergooness sake.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 15, 2015, 07:26:33 AM
We were at the 'Mall of Frenchtown' (or whatever they call it now) yesterday afternoon.  For 10 days before Christmas it didn't seem like there were very many people there.

They have signs up on the area where the mall service desk used to be announcing the 'new' Taco Bell...   I guess technically it will be 'new' but it looks to be several feet smaller than the current Taco Bell it will be replacing :-\ :-\ :-\

The gal with the personalized Christmas tree ornaments is back again this year so we bought another one.  They personalize them while you're shopping.  I suppose if you wanted to just wait it wouldn't be too long...  most of the time is just waiting for the lettering to dry I suspect.  Last year they were down by where the Santa photo booth was but this year they're down past Spencer's toward where Target was.  They seemed to me to be more busy than they were last year.

There's another 'low cost' clothing company that has popped up...   these types of places haven't done real well here in the past so I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens.

The Humane Society has their annual store 'open' just outside the mall entrance to Pat Catan's store.
Title: Re: Business Openings / Whats going in at the former Quatro's site?
Post by: Debimark on December 20, 2015, 02:55:09 PM
Familiar with the Starbucks coming to town, but have no idea what is building the site of the former Quatro's.  CVS, or another corner drug store perhaps?  Have heard some rumors, but nothing confirmed.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on December 20, 2015, 03:07:30 PM
I heard a strip joint. 
Title: Re: Business Openings / Whats going in at the former Quatro's site?
Post by: BigRedDog on December 20, 2015, 04:44:28 PM
Familiar with the Starbucks coming to town, but have no idea what is building the site of the former Quatro's.  CVS, or another corner drug store perhaps?  Have heard some rumors, but nothing confirmed.


It's a Qdoba Mexican Grill...

we've had some discussion on it before...

Maverick mentioned it back in October:

http://monroetalks.com/forum/index.php?topic=29863.msg717189#msg717189 (http://monroetalks.com/forum/index.php?topic=29863.msg717189#msg717189)

I even commented that they are apparently owned by Jack in the Box.

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/feb/06/former-quatros-could-become-mexican-grill/?news (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/feb/06/former-quatros-could-become-mexican-grill/?news)

It says there will also be a sub shop but doesn't say who it is.  We must have finally hit the saturation point on Pizza shops so now we'll put in more Mexican food and sub shops ;) ;) ;)

https://www.qdoba.com/ (https://www.qdoba.com/)

Not sure where I found they were owned by Jack in the Box...

don't see that on their website :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 20, 2015, 04:46:09 PM
I heard a strip joint.

Sounds like maybe there's still one suite left in the building...

maybe it's time to invest in Frenchtown :o :o :o
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on December 20, 2015, 06:11:19 PM
Oh......a strip mall and not a strip joint.   ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 20, 2015, 07:03:03 PM
Oh......a strip mall and not a strip joint.   ;D

That is a simple misunderstanding!

 ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on December 30, 2015, 11:02:32 AM
Rumor has it that a new motorsports dealership is opening in the spring at the former Custer Beer location on Telegraph. From what I hear, it will be a Sea Doo/ Ski Doo franchise dealer.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 30, 2015, 11:32:47 AM
Rumor has it that a new motorsports dealership is opening in the spring at the former Custer Beer location on Telegraph. From what I hear, it will be a Sea Doo/ Ski Doo franchise dealer.

If fuel prices remain low that should be a major plus for their business...

but if we have another winter like this one then that may not be so good!

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 30, 2015, 07:16:09 PM
If fuel prices remain low that should be a major plus for their business...

but if we have another winter like this one then that may not be so good!

Back when I was young, dumb and flush I always had at least 3 sleds and a toy hauler.  Little did I realize that a sled is the worst investment you can make.  They depreciate 50% when you take them off the showroom floor.

Don't miss them a bit.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 30, 2015, 07:18:01 PM
I did see the powersports store in front of Cabelas (across from the drug store) went tits up.  It's now a Tim Hortons or something.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 16, 2016, 06:16:20 PM
Not really a new business but Lawyer's Title is moving into the 'old' Fifth Third building on the corner of Dunbar and Telegraph.  At least it won't be another building sitting vacant for very long.  Looks like they're moving fast to get in as there's already a dumpster in the parking lot and I see lots of scrap in it already.  Hopefully they didn't hire any of the local 'coming soon' restaurant contractors ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: excelsior on January 16, 2016, 07:24:31 PM
The business going into the old Bob Evans on N. Dixie appears to be finally getting close to opening.

It is looking nice with all of the changes on the outside.

I have not heard what the name of the new business will be.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Mayonnaise on January 16, 2016, 07:28:18 PM
I see what looks like a medical marijuana dispensary is going in the little strip mall on Telegraph across from Nortel next to Boost Mobile. I saw some people in there working in there when I went by today.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 16, 2016, 07:34:32 PM
The business going into the old Bob Evans on N. Dixie appears to be finally getting close to opening.

It is looking nice with all of the changes on the outside.

I have not heard what the name of the new business will be.

We were there back in the fall and they were working on the stone on the front but I haven't been back since.  Glad to hear they're getting closer.  I don't recall hearing a name either.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 16, 2016, 09:39:07 PM
I see what looks like a medical marijuana dispensary is going in the little strip mall on Telegraph across from Nortel next to Boost Mobile. I saw some people in there working in there when I went by today.

Since when are those legal in this state?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Frenchfry on January 16, 2016, 10:11:08 PM
Since when are those legal in this state?
What do have against those that create jobs?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 16, 2016, 10:36:11 PM
What do have against those that create jobs?


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Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on January 17, 2016, 08:53:58 AM
I see what looks like a medical marijuana dispensary is going in the little strip mall on Telegraph across from Nortel next to Boost Mobile. I saw some people in there working in there when I went by today.

What?  I leave town for a few weeks and Maverick beats me to the dispensary gig, DAMN!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on January 17, 2016, 11:54:01 AM
I wonder did the City's moratorium change with the new Council?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 17, 2016, 12:38:28 PM
I wonder did the City's moratorium change with the new Council?

Nope.  I think someone is just betting that the Building Department will do nothing to enforce the ordinances, or that they can beat the City in court.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on January 17, 2016, 07:11:49 PM
The building in question is where Chronic Relief certification center was located. They are leaving and someone is getting the building cleaned out and ready for a new tenant.
The marijuana related sign and business have been there for a few years now. There is no dispensary going in anywhere in or near Monroe that I know of.

Mav
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on January 17, 2016, 08:14:36 PM
The building in question is where Chronic Relief certification center was located. They are leaving and someone is getting the building cleaned out and ready for a new tenant.
The marijuana related sign and business have been there for a few years now. There is no dispensary going in anywhere in or near Monroe that I know of.

Mav
So those who live around here - have to go outside of the City/County to get their Medical needs taken care of eh?   

Meanwhile I believe legislation moves forward that will prevent taxing of such services if they keep fumbling the ball... 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on January 18, 2016, 02:00:56 PM
We're not interested in generating any new tax revenue in Monroe.

From personal experience we drive to Ypsi hit the dispensary, have dinner at Haab's and usually walk down to the Rocket and spend a few bucks in there too. Job creation and tax revenue is a positive in my book. If done right a dispensary is not the seedy business that our cities leaders make it out to be.   

 
I met a couple this past year (up in Tawas on vacation) who's daughter is running one in the AA area,  makes a good living at it... 
and on the side is in a band, and also is a stripper...   
Fuzz would be happy to meet her - as she's got it all it seems and a business head - saving lots of $$ for an early retirement according to the proud parents! 

But like you say her taxes go to the Washtenaw Area
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on January 19, 2016, 01:02:44 PM
I probably know her.   ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: jbs49238 on March 05, 2016, 07:17:35 PM
I probably know her.   ;)

You probably wish....

Monroe needs a good hash broker, a ton of pent up tension over there.  Both sides need to come together strike a match take a puff and figure this whole thing out. 

However, I am out.... I am allergic to burnt MJ, sends me straight into a asthmatic tizzy!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on March 06, 2016, 09:20:40 AM
I see Detroit is opening up and licensing them -

Monroe is still waiting for orders from Custer - 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on March 06, 2016, 10:39:22 AM
I see Detroit is opening up and licensing them -

Monroe is still waiting for orders from Custer -
Or maybe they are waiting for a time when Council Members cannot be arrested for allowing something contrary to Federal Law? Not that it would happen, but it could!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on March 06, 2016, 10:55:39 AM
Monroe is still waiting for the legislature - State that is - to write some laws that make sense.

Until then we only have the ballot wording to work with - which doesn't allow dispensaries. 

It is what it is.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Frenchfry on March 08, 2016, 12:47:15 AM
Or maybe they are waiting for a time when Council Members cannot be arrested for allowing something contrary to Federal Law? Not that it would happen, but it could!
Congrats on having the mayor appoint you to a position after your loss at the ballot box.

Although the way he takes care of certain council members might raise a few eyebrows.

But as has been said before...I'm not a city resident so it's none of my business.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: arpydave on March 08, 2016, 12:53:45 AM
Or maybe they are waiting for a time when Council Members cannot be arrested for allowing something contrary to Federal Law? Not that it would happen, but it could!

Yeah, sort of like what happened with the water lines up in Flint. Oh wait, that was an Emergency Manager and the Mayor, so let's blame it on the Governor.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Frenchfry on March 08, 2016, 01:06:22 AM
Yeah, sort of like what happened with the water lines up in Flint. Oh wait, that was an Emergency Manager and the Mayor, so let's blame it on the Governor.
The gov appointed the EM...knew of the problem for quite some time...and did nothing to fix the issue. The Flint council was powerless...while the Monroe council is spineless...so there IS a difference.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: arpydave on March 08, 2016, 01:20:38 AM
Yeah, and because the known habitat of the Velvet Throated Face Painter  ;)  is I-75 and Nadeau Rd. Governor Snyder is responsible if somebody renovates it and puts a certain segment of society that has their hands in such things  :o out of work? He signs off on every little thing, even if Jenny gave it a wink and a nod   8* ?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Frenchfry on March 08, 2016, 01:51:38 AM
Yeah, and because the known habitat of the Velvet Throated Face Painter  ;)  is I-75 and Nadeau Rd. Governor Snyder is responsible if somebody renovates it and puts a certain segment of society that has their hands in such things  :o out of work? He signs off on every little thing, even if Jenny gave it a wink and a nod   8* ?
What the hell are you talking about??
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on March 08, 2016, 09:57:53 PM
Or maybe they are waiting for a time when Council Members cannot be arrested for allowing something contrary to Federal Law? Not that it would happen, but it could!
It's a question that has been answered already by the inaction of the Feds in Colorado and other States that have legalized...   

The facts are they don't really have any reason other than they want to act like puritans...     Kind of like how Temperance got it's name and how they just recently allowed the purchase of alcohol in stores...
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on March 09, 2016, 11:51:47 PM
It's a question that has been answered already by the inaction of the Feds in Colorado and other States that have legalized...   

The facts are they don't really have any reason other than they want to act like puritans...     Kind of like how Temperance got it's name and how they just recently allowed the purchase of alcohol in stores...
States can't legalize a schedule 1 narcotic...but it appears that the Feds are not pursuing. They should de-list it, and let the states have a say.
I can't speak for the current Council, but the legal opinion was that they could be held personally responsible...including jail time. Call it Puritanism or whatever you wish, but it isn't you making the call.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on March 24, 2016, 02:19:30 PM
Congrats on having the mayor appoint you to a position after your loss at the ballot box.

Although the way he takes care of certain council members might raise a few eyebrows.

But as has been said before...I'm not a city resident so it's none of my business.
Thank you!
He knew that there had to be a strong voice on the Zoning Board of Appeals so that the zoning code adopted by the Planning Commission was not given away when it was not warranted...where no hardship or practical difficulty exists.
Not sure how that is taking care of any one individual, but it is very clear that it is beneficial to the City as a whole. It is certainly not the best board to serve on, due to having to say no to individuals seeking relief from zoning codes, but it is just another way that I can give back to my City.
In what way do you give back to your community?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on March 24, 2016, 08:51:39 PM
States can't legalize a schedule 1 narcotic...but it appears that the Feds are not pursuing. They should de-list it, and let the states have a say.
I can't speak for the current Council, but the legal opinion was that they could be held personally responsible...including jail time. Call it Puritanism or whatever you wish, but it isn't you making the call.
It's easy to hide behind a legal opinion of someone who has not even looked into the whole Colorado legalization issue and see how the Feds have handled that... 
 
We're talking Medical dispensaries - and Michigan did legalize that...   

Did he site how many cases that he found where people have been found personally liable for following State laws? 
 I doubt if there is any case law on on it in the past 10 years - since the States have started the process of superseding an antiquated ideal that Marijuana is a "narcotic"... 

A good attorney can argue both sides of anything - given direction
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on March 24, 2016, 08:59:30 PM
Thank you!
He knew that there had to be a strong voice on the Zoning Board of Appeals so that the zoning code adopted by the Planning Commission was not given away when it was not warranted...where no hardship or practical difficulty exists.
Not sure how that is taking care of any one individual, but it is very clear that it is beneficial to the City as a whole. It is certainly not the best board to serve on, due to having to say no to individuals seeking relief from zoning codes, but it is just another way that I can give back to my City.
In what way do you give back to your community?

Keep saying No Brian - unless they remember to come up with a hardship that isn't self created!

 ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on March 24, 2016, 09:16:37 PM
New restaurant Sidelines Italian Grill on Secor at Summerfield. Excellent Italian dishes. Great starters.  Steak and a burger too.
Italian awesome. all made in their kitchen. $12-15.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on March 24, 2016, 10:19:21 PM
It's easy to hide behind a legal opinion of someone who has not even looked into the whole Colorado legalization issue and see how the Feds have handled that... 
 
We're talking Medical dispensaries - and Michigan did legalize that...   

Did he site how many cases that he found where people have been found personally liable for following State laws? 
 I doubt if there is any case law on on it in the past 10 years - since the States have started the process of superseding an antiquated ideal that Marijuana is a "narcotic"... 

A good attorney can argue both sides of anything - given direction
In 2010, the MML published a "White Paper" on the Michigan Medical Marihuana Act. Unless something has changed as far as legislation since then, if I were in a position to vote on a dispensary, I would vote no...or at least to prolong the moratorium...based on the personal liability such a vote could expose.
Here is a link to the paper:  https://www.mml.org/pdf/fisher-med-marihuana-white-paper8-5-10.pdf (https://www.mml.org/pdf/fisher-med-marihuana-white-paper8-5-10.pdf)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on March 24, 2016, 10:38:19 PM
Dispensaries are illegal. It's not even a grey area. Growing is legal and the city should at least acknowledge that and have safeguards in place to protect property like electrical code requirements, smell regulations etc. I think a lot of the problem is that when municipalities say that they have a moratorium the general public thinks that means they aren't allowed to do anything involving marijuana when in fact they can grow in compliance with state law anywhere in the state even the city of Monroe.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: jbs49238 on March 25, 2016, 01:49:33 AM
Dispensaries are illegal. It's not even a grey area. Growing is legal and the city should at least acknowledge that and have safeguards in place to protect property like electrical code requirements, smell regulations etc. I think a lot of the problem is that when municipalities say that they have a moratorium the general public thinks that means they aren't allowed to do anything involving marijuana when in fact they can grow in compliance with state law anywhere in the state even the city of Monroe.


Great point.

The growing/selling/smoking of MJ in Michigan has become fairly easy.  Stay within the guidelines and you can grow smoke and sell enough to enjoy a decent income and enjoy your vice. 

Get greedy... it is just a matter of time before Johnny Law catches up to you.

Hint... DON'T ASPIRE TO BE A KINGPIN DEALER! 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on March 25, 2016, 07:35:25 AM
Dispensaries are illegal. It's not even a grey area. Growing is legal and the city should at least acknowledge that and have safeguards in place to protect property like electrical code requirements, smell regulations etc. I think a lot of the problem is that when municipalities say that they have a moratorium the general public thinks that means they aren't allowed to do anything involving marijuana when in fact they can grow in compliance with state law anywhere in the state even the city of Monroe.

Mav,

I believe when the City has announced the  moratorium, it was stated that it would not prevent any citizen from following the Michigan Law as it was written, and Monroe would follow that law.

Now - a grow operation for 72 plants require certain infrastructure improvements that most residences don't come equipped for, and the Medical Marijuana Law does not exempt residences from having to apply for the proper permits to upgrade the electrical, plumbing, and other systems that would be required to run a "grow" operation of that size inside their building.  They are still required to follow the applicable building codes that are required building permits, pass the inspections, and pay the fees for those services.  However - we both know that not all residences follow all building ordinances for improvements made on their houses, and not all residences pull permits for all work done.  Given the limited number of inspectors the chance of someone getting caught are low.

Personally I could understand why you would take the moratorium stance - because many municipalities that tried to regulate Medical Marijuana landed in court, and Monroe didn't want to be a test case.  However - I think it is a Zoning issue, pure and simple.  Do you want your neighbor in a 2 bedroom apartment multi-person apartment residence growing 72 marijuana plants next door to you?  There are going to be odor issues, moisture issues, etc.  It is not an appropriate place for that type of business.  Hence - I would think saying not allowed in RM would be a no brainer.  That is just an "easy" example of how it should be a local zoning issue.  The next - should it be a special use?  Many home businesses are a special use, such as day cares to name one.  It was discussed - and argued that making it a special use, and having them come before a board would make them a "target" for robberies.  It would be public record that there is probably marijuana plants at this address.  Go get them - and there is probably some cash there too.  Kind of dangerous for the proprietors.  Another angle argued was you couldn't ask them to apply - because of medical confidentiality laws.  To me that is the cost of doing business - but probably you were going to be a test case if you took it on.

You are absolutely correct that dispensaries are flat out not legal.  I would invite anyone to show me where dispensaries are allowed by the current law.  It just isn't there.  Just because you wish it was there doesn't mean it is there.

Anyway - the moratorium doesn't mean you don't have to follow all laws - state and local.  I guess you just ignore that Federal one.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on March 25, 2016, 07:36:20 AM
Dispensaries are illegal. It's not even a grey area. Growing is legal and the city should at least acknowledge that and have safeguards in place to protect property like electrical code requirements, smell regulations etc. I think a lot of the problem is that when municipalities say that they have a moratorium the general public thinks that means they aren't allowed to do anything involving marijuana when in fact they can grow in compliance with state law anywhere in the state even the city of Monroe.
I don't believe that the City ever took a position on growing...just on dispensaries.
I agree that safeguards, especially electrical, should be enacted/enforced...but I doubt that most grow operations are applying for an electrical permit.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on March 25, 2016, 07:47:27 AM
After I wrote that I realized I forgot to say that the NEWS stated that it included grows and they are consistently wrong when they report.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on March 25, 2016, 07:54:09 AM
I think local leadership is just anti-Americana.........Pot and Hot Dog carts!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 25, 2016, 01:37:34 PM
You need something to cure the munchies....
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on March 25, 2016, 01:42:38 PM
Hot dogs replaced apple pie after the Kent State incident.   ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on March 25, 2016, 02:13:36 PM
After I wrote that I realized I forgot to say that the NEWS stated that it included grows and they are consistently wrong when they report.

They are so consistently wrong, you can assume they are wrong.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 25, 2016, 05:50:57 PM
Hot dogs replaced apple pie after the Kent State incident.   ;D

I don't remember it that way and I lived there at the time....
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on March 25, 2016, 07:24:40 PM
You guys continued to eat apple pie after it?  The rest of the campuses around the country were screaming about the injustice of the government where I was afterwards. 

That demonstration didn't start as a government support rally, or anything it stood for at the time.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on March 25, 2016, 07:33:14 PM
I like apple pie. 

Got one on the counter.

Got hot dogs in the freezer too.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on March 25, 2016, 07:47:43 PM
Yea, I still eat both..,,,it's the conformist and rebel in me. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on March 25, 2016, 08:00:27 PM
Yea, I still eat both..,,,it's the conformist and rebel in me.
You may want to pay up your debt...and eat Mexican! Do it before Trump puts up the wall!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on March 25, 2016, 08:02:54 PM
I guess I was ignorant that I wasn't supposed to be eating Apple Pie, and I'm sure my Great Depression / WW2 Kid Generation Kid Parents could care less about that.....  or at least they didn't link it to food groups.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on March 25, 2016, 08:03:47 PM
You may want to pay up your debt...and eat Mexican! Do it before Trump puts up the wall!

Is Trump going to send in INS and shut down another tenant?

You have the worst luck!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on March 25, 2016, 08:26:11 PM
You may want to pay up your debt...and eat Mexican! Do it before Trump puts up the wall!

That is one debt I am looking forward to paying off!  Are the owners there a subject to deportation if Trump gets elected?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on March 25, 2016, 09:12:26 PM
Hot dogs replaced apple pie after the Kent State incident.   ;D


I was in the Army and overseas at the time of the shooting.  We heard plenty about it and there were lots and lots of discussions regarding the crowd control methods that were used that day (and had been used for decades probably).  The military actually made several changes in crowd control techniques due to the Kent State 'Murders'!!! 

One of the guys in our unit (we didn't have any gals back then) had been a member of the Ohio National Guard before he went on active duty.  He knew one of the shooters and of course he took it pretty hard. 

We didn't get apple pie very often but when we did we didn't do any protesting...

we ate it!

Here is one major song that is directly about the Kent State shooting...

Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young Ohio 1970 Kent State University (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68g76j9VBvM#)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on March 25, 2016, 09:28:43 PM
It was a bad, and sad time in our country.  We moan and groan now about how bad government is, but there were some big time games and issues being played in DC.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on March 25, 2016, 09:31:41 PM
It was a bad, and sad time in our country.  We moan and groan now about how bad government is, but there were some big time games and issues being played in DC.

A lot of the biggest complainers today don't seem to recall this very relevant bit of recent history!  I guess some would just prefer to 'forget' it >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on March 26, 2016, 07:47:26 AM
That is one debt I am looking forward to paying off!  Are the owners there a subject to deportation if Trump gets elected?
Lol...no!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on March 26, 2016, 07:53:55 AM
A lot of the biggest complainers today don't seem to recall this very relevant bit of recent history!  I guess some would just prefer to 'forget' it >:( >:( >:(

I've never trusted government since then as they violated many civil rights, and the lies cost many young lives in SE Asia at the expense of the military industrial complex with the full cooperation of elected officials.

Lol...no!

Good deal.......it appears the light at the end of my tunnel of hell will be mid-Summer.  Keep patronizing them till that time.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on March 26, 2016, 09:52:58 AM
...  I guess Detroit and Ann Arbor and other areas don't belong to the MML...  as Detroit is licensing and regulating them - since voters approved them in Detroit  (they will get their small revenue slice)

There are plenty of places to buy medical marijuana - just not in the City.    (I'm not a medical marijuana card holder - but know a few people who are)


http://www.metrotimes.com/Blogs/archives/2016/02/26/new-detroit-marijuana-dispensary-laws-set-to-take-effect (http://www.metrotimes.com/Blogs/archives/2016/02/26/new-detroit-marijuana-dispensary-laws-set-to-take-effect)

The City of Detroit on Tuesday released a list of the first 79 applicants seeking to operate medical marijuana shops in Detroit, as the city's new regulations went into effect.

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2016/03/01/list-79-applicants-sell-medical-marijuana-detroit/81187236/ (http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2016/03/01/list-79-applicants-sell-medical-marijuana-detroit/81187236/)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on March 26, 2016, 11:11:07 AM
I would have been quite upset if you were a cardholder and not have shared with me!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on March 26, 2016, 08:59:50 PM
Rumor has it that a new large  Indoor Grow Supply store is going in on Telegraph at the old Rays Yamaha building.
Not a dispensary, but taking advantage of the growers of one of natures miracle plants, and of course tomatoes, peppers etc !!!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 26, 2016, 09:51:05 PM
............ah, indoor (closet) hydroponics...... ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on March 27, 2016, 06:04:30 PM
Nothing against the law in growing stuff in your house.....

It just seems to be awfully popular here lately.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on March 27, 2016, 06:09:19 PM
Some people who become connoisseurs enjoy experimenting to get that taste they want.....like people who try making homemade wine, beer, or home coffee bean roasters.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 27, 2016, 10:18:09 PM
Nothing against the law in growing stuff in your house.....

It just seems to be awfully popular here lately.

.....................you can't grow it in a farm field, the flying warlords find it and confiscate it.  I've always wondered how much they destroy and how much goes up in smoke???
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on March 27, 2016, 11:43:02 PM
.....................you can't grow it in a farm field, the flying warlords find it and confiscate it.  I've always wondered how much they destroy and how much goes up in smoke???
That is odd considering the legalization - however they claim you can't "secure" your farm field..   
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on March 28, 2016, 12:07:17 PM
You can grow outdoors but your plant or plants have to be totally enclosed with fencing including the top so it can be done it is just challenging !!  Other counties are more flexible than Monroe county is about outdoor grows and pot in general.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 28, 2016, 12:29:37 PM
You can grow outdoors but your plant or plants have to be totally enclosed with fencing including the top so it can be done it is just challenging !!  Other counties are more flexible than Monroe county is about outdoor grows and pot in general.

In my view, Moron County is bass ackwards in many respects.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on March 28, 2016, 12:46:23 PM
You can grow outdoors but your plant or plants have to be totally enclosed with fencing including the top so it can be done it is just challenging !!  Other counties are more flexible than Monroe county is about outdoor grows and pot in general.

Isn't that in the State Statute?  That the area must be enclosed and locked?

Enclosed wouldn't imply just a fence - to me......
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 28, 2016, 01:27:46 PM
Actually, easy to do.  An enclosed chain link portable dog kennel (the doors lock) and a mesh tarp (lets most of the sunlight in) over the top.  You could cultivate quite a few plants in a 12 x 12 kennel....
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on March 28, 2016, 03:28:57 PM
Isn't that in the State Statute?  That the area must be enclosed and locked?

Enclosed wouldn't imply just a fence - to me......

A recent court of appeals ruling clarified that you could grow outdoors but it had to be enclosed on all sides and fence is acceptable. Sides version would be fine but fence on top would let in more light.With The plants that I see only one would fit in a 10 x 10 pen.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 28, 2016, 03:36:27 PM
A recent court of appeals ruling clarified that you could grow outdoors but it had to be enclosed on all sides and fence is acceptable. Sides version would be fine but fence on top would let in more light.With The plants that I see only one would fit in a 10 x 10 pen.

I'd say plant size would be directly dependent on how much N they uptake.  A liberal application of 46-0-0 granulated would be the ticket...

We have a spare, unused portable kennel.  Maybe I should grow some cannabis for personal use....  need some seeds though..... ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on March 28, 2016, 04:08:45 PM
A recent court of appeals ruling clarified that you could grow outdoors but it had to be enclosed on all sides and fence is acceptable. Sides version would be fine but fence on top would let in more light.With The plants that I see only one would fit in a 10 x 10 pen.

Thanks.

I wonder how that ruling lines up with most city and township fencing ordinances?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on March 28, 2016, 04:09:44 PM
I'd say plant size would be directly dependent on how much N they uptake.  A liberal application of 46-0-0 granulated would be the ticket...

We have a spare, unused portable kennel.  Maybe I should grow some cannabis for personal use....  need some seeds though..... ;D

First I would get your medical marijuana card.....

 ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 28, 2016, 08:37:16 PM
First I would get your medical marijuana card.....

 ;)

I didn't know that was a requirement...  I was gonna grow it for Fuzz.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on March 28, 2016, 11:33:23 PM
Thanks.

I wonder how that ruling lines up with most city and township fencing ordinances?
Luckily we know someone who can approve the variance  ;D

I wonder how hard it is to get some seeds...  I can see a boom in mini green houses - if the price is right
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on March 29, 2016, 12:42:01 PM
I didn't know that was a requirement...  I was gonna grow it for Fuzz.

I will start saving seeds.....even though they are minimal and rare in most pot distributed nowadays.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on March 29, 2016, 12:49:31 PM
I started some seeds years ago for my brother. I have a glassed in back porch with southern exposure. If I remember I put between some newspaper and kept moist.  I planted In my garden but they never did anything.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on March 29, 2016, 01:40:23 PM
I have no idea how long a seed will last before it will no longer turn into a sprout, but I remember back in the day doing the same in the moistened newspaper to get the "starters".  The key is not overcrowding, and separating the males from the females before they pollenate.......otherwise you get those real seedy buds.  So I have been told.   ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on March 29, 2016, 05:22:50 PM
Seeds are out. Clones are in.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on March 29, 2016, 07:40:15 PM
Seeds are out. Clones are in.

Oh man - don't even get them going on GMO's!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on March 30, 2016, 10:29:37 AM
Wasn't sure where to post this and didn't really figure it needed a new thread of it's own...

http://www.toledoblade.com/Economy/2016/03/27/Demand-for-equipment-heavy.html (http://www.toledoblade.com/Economy/2016/03/27/Demand-for-equipment-heavy.html)


I know they're still not needing a lot of equipment for new home construction so most of this must be for commercial and industrial development...

I know we have a few new commercial projects going in around Monroe but I'm sure not seeing the demand locally that they're talking about in this article :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: livewire on March 30, 2016, 09:12:33 PM
Oh man - don't even get them going on GMO's!


Ooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

Roundup Ready MJ!!!!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on March 30, 2016, 09:39:28 PM
Gotta go out and kick the dust off my old tool box from when I was in college - had a few seeds stored...  hopefully properly! 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on March 31, 2016, 08:22:34 AM
Gotta go out and kick the dust off my old tool box from when I was in college - had a few seeds stored...  hopefully properly!

I was reading an article not too long ago about someone finding seeds in an old tomb in Egypt...

been there a few thousand years and they were able to sprout and grow those. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 31, 2016, 04:17:46 PM
I have no idea how long a seed will last before it will no longer turn into a sprout, but I remember back in the day doing the same in the moistened newspaper to get the "starters".  The key is not overcrowding, and separating the males from the females before they pollenate.......otherwise you get those real seedy buds.  So I have been told.   ;)

Michael Savage just did a lengthy dissertation on your favorite herb and it wasn't becoming either.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on April 01, 2016, 10:45:11 AM
This guy is doing a national level campaign:

http://nbc24.com/news/local/tiffan-man-using-a-pot-themed-cartoon-to-garner-support-for-federal-marijuana-legalization (http://nbc24.com/news/local/tiffan-man-using-a-pot-themed-cartoon-to-garner-support-for-federal-marijuana-legalization)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on April 01, 2016, 03:34:28 PM
I was reading an article not too long ago about someone finding seeds in an old tomb in Egypt...

been there a few thousand years and they were able to sprout and grow those. 


‘Doomsday Vault’ holds seeds that could save the world.

Jutting out of snow and ice in a forbidding part of Norway like the monolith in “2001: A Space Odyssey," the imposing Doomsday Vault literally holds the seeds to the world’s future in the event of global disaster.

Opened in February 2008, the vault houses more than 740,000 different seed samples from around the world, including a recent shipment of 25,000 seeds that originate everywhere from violence-ravaged Syria to the mountains of Tajikistan to the amaranth used in the Ecuadorian “Day of the Dead’’ celebration.

Formerly known as the Svaldbard Global Seed Vault, the Doomsday Vault it serves as the master backup to the world’s other seed vaults. Its stores stand ready to start replenishing the world’s food supply in the event of natural disaster, water shortages, global warming or war.

I wonder how many variations of weed seed they have?

Real nice video at the web site:

http://www.today.com/id/46602078/ns/today-today_news/t/doomsday-vault-holds-seeds-could-save-world/#.Vv7Lp_krLIU (http://www.today.com/id/46602078/ns/today-today_news/t/doomsday-vault-holds-seeds-could-save-world/#.Vv7Lp_krLIU)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 01, 2016, 06:33:31 PM
Little cold for me there....

Interestingly, over the years I've been planting and germinating Ambrosia Sweet Corn see I bought a decade ago and keep in the freezer.  Just as good as the day I bought it actually.

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: jbs49238 on April 04, 2016, 03:35:43 AM
Little cold for me there....

Interestingly, over the years I've been planting and germinating Ambrosia Sweet Corn see I bought a decade ago and keep in the freezer.  Just as good as the day I bought it actually.



Don't let Monsanto know!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 04, 2016, 12:42:37 PM
Cannabis seeds in the freezer work too.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on April 10, 2016, 01:46:33 PM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160409/golf-course-purchase-completed (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160409/golf-course-purchase-completed)
I see they completed the deal for Links of Lake Erie from the Township... 

Curious to see if a Golf Cart Community will make it - as the State of Michigan has taken the point that golf carts can not be licensed vehicles...  so I'm not sure how they can advance them like they do in many retirement communities around other states.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: excelsior on April 13, 2016, 06:14:50 PM

I wonder if Monroe will get one?


Chick-fil-A to open 20 Michigan locations within five years

http://www.mlive.com/food/index.ssf/2016/04/chick-fil-a_to_open_20_michiga.html (http://www.mlive.com/food/index.ssf/2016/04/chick-fil-a_to_open_20_michiga.html)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 13, 2016, 09:48:47 PM
Nuthing like another Fast Food Emporium to add to the long list.  Fast Food, discount drug stores and auto parts stores....

Problem is, who will have the money??
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: livewire on April 14, 2016, 07:54:31 PM
Around the third of every month, their sales will skyrocket!!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on April 14, 2016, 09:01:59 PM
I prefer Chic to all of them.  But I don't go to any of them anymore.  Chic I would if I needed a quick meal
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 14, 2016, 09:11:18 PM
I prefer Chic to all of them.  But I don't go to any of them anymore.  Chic I would if I needed a quick meal

Processed chicken can be anything
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 14, 2016, 09:12:20 PM
if I want chicken, it has to be KFC
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on April 29, 2016, 01:46:51 PM
A new 'now open' sign out in front of the old Sottile's (hope I spelled that right) Auto Salvage across Telegraph from the quarry.

I believe it said 'Wee Bee Recycling' but I am not 100% positive (I try to mostly keep my eyes on the road unless there is a young lass in involved) on that.

Not finding anything online with that name so maybe I missed on it.  Anyone know for sure or have a link to a website?

If they pay at the same rate as R&M they will be a lot closer for me plus R&M does not take whole vehicles at their Monroe location so have to take them to Toledo anyway.  Hopefully since this place was a salvage yard before they'll be allowed to take whole vehicles.

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 01, 2016, 09:33:56 AM
Always nice to see more residential and commercial development going on around the area...

seems like most of it is either just north of us or just south of us though :o :o :o

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160429/new-kroger-store-eyed-in-brownstown (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160429/new-kroger-store-eyed-in-brownstown)

Quote
Residential development also has climbed. In 2014, the township had 123 single-family certificates of occupancy issued and 71 in 2015. Through March of this year, 22 certificates have been issued. That totals 216 single-family homes being built since 2014, he said.


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nPhase 3 of the Stratford Village Apartments will add 140 units on 13 acres, an investment of $1.4 million.


Something doesn't sound right with the above...  $1.4M divided by 140 units is only $10K per unit.  Not sure I'd want my dog living there if that's all it costs to build out a unit.  Talk about a quick return on investment ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 01, 2016, 02:26:13 PM
A new 'now open' sign out in front of the old Sottile's (hope I spelled that right) Auto Salvage across Telegraph from the quarry.

I believe it said 'Wee Bee Recycling' but I am not 100% positive (I try to mostly keep my eyes on the road unless there is a young lass in involved) on that.

Not finding anything online with that name so maybe I missed on it.  Anyone know for sure or have a link to a website?

If they pay at the same rate as R&M they will be a lot closer for me plus R&M does not take whole vehicles at their Monroe location so have to take them to Toledo anyway.  Hopefully since this place was a salvage yard before they'll be allowed to take whole vehicles.

I didn't know any scrapper took whole vehicles...  Last time I took scrap Freightliner cabs to Omni, I had to give them a scrap title for each one.  I had 3 vehicles in the last rolloff I dumped at Omni, but they were cut up...  All went to shred.  Thats an amazing machine.  eats everything.  Seperates the ferrous, the non ferrous, the plastic and the cloth-fiber and deposits each in a pile.  Everything comes out bite size too.  Was talking to the yard foreman, Al and I asked whey it was mounted on huge springs.  Al told me that when the machine chews into say a propane tank and it explodes, the springs absorb the shock.  he told me they only run it at night when the electricity rates are less.  Must eat a lot of juice.

If you go Detroit past the Omni offices, the next big building (with the converyors sticking out) is the shreder.

It gobbles up whole cars and small trucks.  They pull off the gas tanks and tires in the yard and then the machine 'digests' the rest, motor and all.

Was in there a few months ago and they had at least 30 Fiat 500's stacked up on their sides, waiting to be gobbled.  No loss, it's a fugly car anyway.

Some night I'm gonna stop by to see it in action............
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 01, 2016, 02:49:44 PM
I didn't know any scrapper took whole vehicles...  Last time I took scrap Freightliner cabs to Omni, I had to give them a scrap title for each one.  I had 3 vehicles in the last rolloff I dumped at Omni, but they were cut up...  All went to shred.  Thats an amazing machine.  eats everything.  Seperates the ferrous, the non ferrous, the plastic and the cloth-fiber and deposits each in a pile.  Everything comes out bite size too.  Was talking to the yard foreman, Al and I asked whey it was mounted on huge springs.  Al told me that when the machine chews into say a propane tank and it explodes, the springs absorb the shock.  he told me they only run it at night when the electricity rates are less.  Must eat a lot of juice.

If you go Detroit past the Omni offices, the next big building (with the converyors sticking out) is the shreder.

It gobbles up whole cars and small trucks.  They pull off the gas tanks and tires in the yard and then the machine 'digests' the rest, motor and all.

Was in there a few months ago and they had at least 30 Fiat 500's stacked up on their sides, waiting to be gobbled.  No loss, it's a fugly car anyway.

Some night I'm gonna stop by to see it in action............


R & M in Toledo and Adrian both take whole vehicles...

just not in Monroe.  The yard manager in Monroe told me why once but I don't recall for sure.  May have been a zoning issue but I honestly don't remember.

And we had to remove the gas tank and the tires before they would accept them.  At one time I believe they required the engine and transmission to be drained too but I think they found out that just helps lube the shredder as it's chewing through so now it's not required. 

We've taken a few to Omni and we had to take the tires and fuel tank off for them too.

I took in a bunch of old propane cylinders (both 1 pounders and 20 pounders but had to punch a big hole in them first.  Works good to use them for target practice before heading to the scrap yard!!!

As long as you are cutting the vehicle up there are no issues 'unless' there is a part they can identify as the firewall (usually where the VIN # is attached) and then they either won't let you leave it or you have to present a title.

super reliable car shredder-biggest car shredder of the world SP-2400 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRaOMbLyfdw#)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 01, 2016, 06:01:01 PM
We had an issue with refrigerant tanks in the rolloff.  Omni wants the valves knocked off, no biggie.  The shredder at Omni reduces everything to the size of a tennis ball...everything.
Title: Monroe's Original to open 2nd location in former Laplaisance Wendy's
Post by: BigRedDog on May 03, 2016, 10:07:33 AM
Someone it jumping into the 'renewal' of the outlet mall early on. 

Works for me as I'm out there probably as often as I'm down Front street ;) ;) ;)

My wife saw on Facebook it should be open in June 2016...

hopefully they're not getting into that 'Opening Soon' thing ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Monroe's Original to open 2nd location in former Laplaisance Wendy's
Post by: BigRedDog on May 03, 2016, 01:29:37 PM
Someone it jumping into the 'renewal' of the outlet mall early on. 

Works for me as I'm out there probably as often as I'm down Front street ;) ;) ;)

My wife saw on Facebook it should be open in June 2016...

hopefully they're not getting into that 'Opening Soon' thing ;) ;) ;)


Drove by there to see what (if anything) was going on yet and there is zero going on. 

Not even a 'coming soon' sign although did find one on their Facebook page!!!

(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/12633528_10153447016463562_534219634011769695_o.jpg)

The building doesn't look to bad on the outside although it will need a lot of work before it doesn't look like a former Wendy's!

The parking lot and drive coming in from Laplaisane looks like the SAC has been using the area for B52 bombing practice!!!

B-52 Dropping Lots & Lots of Bombs - Carpet Bombing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGLgZ8htLI4#)
Title: Re: Monroe's Original to open 2nd location in former Laplaisance Wendy's
Post by: Brian Beneteau on May 03, 2016, 01:30:35 PM
Someone it jumping into the 'renewal' of the outlet mall early on. 

Works for me as I'm out there probably as often as I'm down Front street ;) ;) ;)

My wife saw on Facebook it should be open in June 2016...

hopefully they're not getting into that 'Opening Soon' thing ;) ;) ;)
Monroe's Original is opening in the former Wendy's location, and there is a "Tap Room" style bar/restaurant next to where the Gap was...supposed to have 70 plus beers on tap from rumors I've heard.
Title: Re: Monroe's Original to open 2nd location in former Laplaisance Wendy's
Post by: BigRedDog on May 03, 2016, 01:45:06 PM
Monroe's Original is opening in the former Wendy's location, and there is a "Tap Room" style bar/restaurant next to where the Gap was...supposed to have 70 plus beers on tap from rumors I've heard.

My 'source' has heard the same info on the Tap Room... 

going to take a couple of nights to get through all 70 ;) ;) ;)

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on May 03, 2016, 04:37:29 PM
Hard to fathom they will have enough traffic for 70 different taps - and keep any fresh with the lack of any other "draw" -  but if they can last more than a few years you may see some improvements.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on May 03, 2016, 05:08:09 PM
Hard to fathom they will have enough traffic for 70 different taps - and keep any fresh with the lack of any other "draw" -  but if they can last more than a few years you may see some improvements.
They have two bowling lanes inside!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on May 03, 2016, 08:32:46 PM
They have two bowling lanes inside!
Is it near the indoor golf range? - I can see a sport park theme working better than outlet stores
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 04, 2016, 09:12:38 AM
Is it near the indoor golf range? - I can see a sport park theme working better than outlet stores

The golf range (at least the one I saw) is in the 'middle' group of buildings that the Hotel lady purchased and the Gap was right at the front of the original 'outlet' mall.  Not sure which unit they're going into but I see the big winner out there has been the paint companies.  Lots and lots and lots of new paint everywhere.  The next big winner is going to be the asphalt pavers.  The parking lots for all 3 sections out there are going to have to be repaved if they expect to get any customers to repeat their visits.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on May 05, 2016, 11:59:38 PM
The golf range (at least the one I saw) is in the 'middle' group of buildings that the Hotel lady purchased and the Gap was right at the front of the original 'outlet' mall.  Not sure which unit they're going into but I see the big winner out there has been the paint companies.  Lots and lots and lots of new paint everywhere.  The next big winner is going to be the asphalt pavers.  The parking lots for all 3 sections out there are going to have to be repaved if they expect to get any customers to repeat their visits.
They are going into the two spaces next to the former Gap location.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 06, 2016, 08:51:14 AM
They are going into the two spaces next to the former Gap location.

We took a ride Wednesday evening after we had dinner in Monroe...

saw a plumbing truck at the old Wendy's on Laplaisance so there is some work going on inside!!!

We parked in front of the old mall (parking was easy because we were the only vehicle on the property) and I walked up to take a look around.  They do have the windows covered in those two units so can't see anything going on inside.  It did give me a chance to take a closer look at the exterior of the building though.  It's going to take more than putting lipstick on the pig to renovate some parts.  I hadn't been in there for years and everything has really gone down hill.   Even the concrete is  cracked and missing some pieces.  When we drove around back and along the freeway we did see that there is a big dumpster back there but I didn't go crawling through it to see what they're getting rid of. 

After we left there we went across Albain road and saw vehicles and people carrying 'stuff' to the dumpster out behind the old Colonial House Restaurant on the corner of S. Dixie.  I haven't had a chance to do any checking on what is going on there but it's long, long overdue.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 11, 2016, 05:01:17 PM
Drove up Telegraph yesterday...

I see they were unloading Bombardier products at the newest motorsports place and they have a banner sign up on the building now so they must be ready for business.

Also saw a sign out in front of the old Ray's Pools building...

Bud's Hydroponics!!!

Here's their Facebook page...

https://www.facebook.com/Budshydro/info/?tab=overview (https://www.facebook.com/Budshydro/info/?tab=overview)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 11, 2016, 09:16:37 PM
Again, not a new business 'per se'...

but certainly an 'extension' of a very popular local business.

Nick and Nino's now have not one... 

but two 'street food' trucks!!!

https://www.facebook.com/Nickandninostreetfood/ (https://www.facebook.com/Nickandninostreetfood/)

(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13151693_349008165223120_8044533597039250416_n.jpg?oh=32b8a5442d60da003b742a6ed43bd3ea&oe=57D800CD)
Title: Dana plans $70M axle plant at old Jeep site
Post by: BigRedDog on May 11, 2016, 09:40:10 PM
Again, a major new expansion just outside of Michigan and Monroe County!

At least there should be some jobs here for Monroe County workers!

http://www.toledoblade.com/Economy/2016/05/10/Dana-plans-70M-axle-plant-at-old-Jeep-site.html (http://www.toledoblade.com/Economy/2016/05/10/Dana-plans-70M-axle-plant-at-old-Jeep-site.html)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 12, 2016, 10:16:00 AM
A new 'now open' sign out in front of the old Sottile's (hope I spelled that right) Auto Salvage across Telegraph from the quarry.

I believe it said 'Wee Bee Recycling' but I am not 100% positive (I try to mostly keep my eyes on the road unless there is a young lass in involved) on that.

Not finding anything online with that name so maybe I missed on it.  Anyone know for sure or have a link to a website?

If they pay at the same rate as R&M they will be a lot closer for me plus R&M does not take whole vehicles at their Monroe location so have to take them to Toledo anyway.  Hopefully since this place was a salvage yard before they'll be allowed to take whole vehicles.

Wee Bee Scrappers...

they have a facebook page although it's still pretty bare at this point.  I'm going to stop in when I'm heading by and not in a big hurry to get somewhere else!

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wee-Bee-Scrappers/1720058884901057 (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wee-Bee-Scrappers/1720058884901057)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on May 12, 2016, 12:35:55 PM
Also saw a sign out in front of the old Ray's Pools building...

Bud's Hydroponics!!!


I noticed that as well when coming back from Toledo last weekend.  I had to grin and just figured Mav beat me to another pot related business opportunity.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 12, 2016, 08:38:59 PM
of you really want to get into hydroponics, get yourself a Farmtek catalog.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 14, 2016, 11:37:36 AM
A new computer and electronics service shop in South County...

I noticed they accept computers for recycling.  Other than them the only other place I know of is at the Habitat Restore on Laplaisance...   and they are closed on Mondays!  Seems like several times I've loaded stuff on the weekend and went to drop it off on Monday...   NOT!!!

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160514/lambertville-computer-repair-business-launched-by-former-classmates (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160514/lambertville-computer-repair-business-launched-by-former-classmates)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 14, 2016, 06:45:20 PM
I see the Shiver Shack in Deerfield is for sale again.  Don't see why it don't make it, good location and everyone likes frozen custard in the summer.

Maybe I should buy it.  I'd probably turn into a blimp from chocolate custard....

The one thing that irks me with custard stands is those operators who don't put the custard down in the come..  you think it's a big cone bit it's top heavy because the owners are too cheap to fill the cone....  The cheapest thing is the product.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 16, 2016, 09:56:21 AM
I see the Shiver Shack in Deerfield is for sale again.  Don't see why it don't make it, good location and everyone likes frozen custard in the summer.

Maybe I should buy it.  I'd probably turn into a blimp from chocolate custard....

The one thing that irks me with custard stands is those operators who don't put the custard down in the come..  you think it's a big cone bit it's top heavy because the owners are too cheap to fill the cone....  The cheapest thing is the product.


I think it would be a lot like this:

(http://previews.123rf.com/images/baz777/baz7771209/baz777120900003/15039064-Comical-worker-eating-all-the-company-profits-isolated-on-white-background-Stock-Vector.jpg)


There has to be a good reason multiple other operators haven't been able to make a go...

I'm guessing it has something to do with high debt service! 

You have to make enough in 6 months to cover all your costs for 12 months. 

What else can be added to increase revenue?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on May 16, 2016, 10:59:21 PM
I noticed that as well when coming back from Toledo last weekend.  I had to grin and just figured Mav beat me to another pot related business opportunity.
Rumor has it you are spot on! 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on May 17, 2016, 12:36:15 AM
You're all welcome to stop in when we open. My son will be running the place. I know enough to write up orders but have basically a black thumb.
The building is unsightly to put it mildly but structurally it is in great shape with a completely new roof installed in 2011.
Great location and extra space to rent. Plans are in the works to give the facade a new makeover.
Mav
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 17, 2016, 09:14:29 AM
Someone finally comes clean.....
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on May 17, 2016, 10:54:15 AM
Rumor has it you are spot on!

I had to LMAO when I heard......a total stab in the dark!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on May 17, 2016, 05:45:17 PM
I had to LMAO when I heard......a total stab in the dark!
Maybe we can rent a small stall in the back corner and see what grows :)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on May 17, 2016, 09:09:40 PM
I say we get the Jack in the Box Franchise - before Maverick gets that too....
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on May 17, 2016, 09:21:00 PM
If they offered a Jack In The Box franchise I would be sorely tempted to take a run at it !!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on May 18, 2016, 05:01:17 PM
Maybe we can rent a small stall in the back corner and see what grows :)

It would be reasonable for the seller to demonstrate the capability of the system by showing clone sprouts grow to waist high before delivering the system to my basement.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on May 18, 2016, 07:38:14 PM
We were thinking about offering an Indoor Grow University !!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 18, 2016, 09:04:05 PM
We were thinking about offering an Indoor Grow University !!

All it takes is shitte water and sunlight.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on May 18, 2016, 09:17:38 PM
Thats a Buckeye formula. In Michigan they demand a better end product !!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 19, 2016, 08:35:42 AM
We were thinking about offering an Indoor Grow University !!

(https://assets.greenrushdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/marijuana-school-800x416.jpg)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on May 19, 2016, 10:19:39 AM
Even better is a diploma that you can smoke in the end :)

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on May 19, 2016, 10:23:45 AM
We were thinking about offering an Indoor Grow University !!

I have a head start on studying usage of the end item!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 19, 2016, 10:26:42 AM
I had to ask CL what a Jack in the Box was, I had no idea.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on May 19, 2016, 12:16:44 PM
I had to ask CL what a Jack in the Box was, I had no idea.

Oh you poor deprived soul......
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 27, 2016, 09:58:48 AM
Website for the new 'farm' store going in where the current FoodTown store is on Telegraph at the river:

https://www.familyfarmandhome.com/ (https://www.familyfarmandhome.com/)

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160526/monroes-food-town-will-be-closing-soon (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160526/monroes-food-town-will-be-closing-soon)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 27, 2016, 10:03:33 AM
I had to ask CL what a Jack in the Box was, I had no idea.

There's one just off of I-75 down around Dayton-Cincinnati and several of them over around Indianapolis.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on May 27, 2016, 04:28:55 PM
Stagecoach Stop in Irish Hills reopening Sunday

Three years after opening the accommodation portion of the former Stagecoach Stop U.S.A., the owners of Stagecoach Stop Western Resort are reviving other parts of the old roadside attraction.

From noon to 5 p.m. Sunday, May 29, people can pan for gold, take advantage of the shooting gallery, tour the 22-acre grounds, visit the petting zoo and watch a Wild West gunfight, according to a news release.

A day pass to the resort is $10 and shuttle service is available to take visitors to the Stagecoach Saloon, at the former Golden Nugget across the street, for Keno, games and drinks.

Stagecoach Stop, at 7203 U.S. 12, opened in 1965 and closed in Sep­tem­ber 2007 after a steady decline in visitors over the previous several years. Officials said in a statement there has been “lots of positivity” in response to the resort’s plans to recapture the memories started by the Bahlau family more than 50 years ago.

https://shar.es/1diu3a
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 28, 2016, 07:18:04 AM
Stagecoach Stop U.S.A. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvFs3VP0sN8#)
Title: Passion for shoes leads to store
Post by: BigRedDog on June 03, 2016, 08:58:55 AM
Quote
Her love of shoes came at a young age. She remembers visiting her relatives who had hardwood floors and hearing the distinctive clicking of high heels against the wood.
I love that sound, and I think that’s what got me into loving shoes,” Mrs. Carmouche said.


I know exactly what she means ;) ;) ;)

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160602/passion-for-shoes-leads-to-store (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160602/passion-for-shoes-leads-to-store)

Some interesting looking shoes:

(http://www.monroenews.com/storyimage/MI/20160602/NEWS/160609962/AR/0/AR-160609962.jpg&MaxW=650)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on June 03, 2016, 09:50:16 AM
I know exactly what she means ;) ;) ;)

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160602/passion-for-shoes-leads-to-store[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160602/passion-for-shoes-leads-to-store[/url])

Some interesting looking shoes:


Well I know there's a passion for a few other businesses...   
just can't get past City regulations... 

Jack-in-the Box / Marijuana dispensory   for one  ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on July 07, 2016, 09:28:12 AM
Family Farm and Home is wasting no time.   Saw an ad in the paper they are already hiring and they've repainted part of the awning of the building and are working on the parking lot this morning.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on July 07, 2016, 10:57:42 AM
We had a deal down here in Bedford where a liquor license became avail. The township clerk who has nothing to do with approvals refused to provide an application because she said they wanted to save it for awhile. She lost
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 07, 2016, 12:38:16 PM
We had a deal down here in Bedford where a liquor license became avail. The township clerk who has nothing to do with approvals refused to provide an application because she said they wanted to save it for awhile. She lost

There's a lot of 'game playing' with available liquor licenses as our public officials attempt to steer them in a particular direction!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 07, 2016, 12:41:16 PM
Family Farm and Home is wasting no time.   Saw an ad in the paper they are already hiring and they've repainted part of the awning of the building and are working on the parking lot this morning.

The parking lot and especially the drive right in front of the store were in serious need of repair.  I was in there to go to Goodwill a few weeks ago and thought I was going to break something in the car suspension :( :( :(

Looking forward to them getting open...

at least they will have 'some' general hardware stuff that will be closer than the Baker Ace or TSC ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: T-M-T on July 07, 2016, 01:35:28 PM
There's a lot of 'game playing' with available liquor licenses as our public officials attempt to steer them in a particular direction!

I think that has to be done, as there are only so many licenses allowed per population. 

Imagine some small “dive” bar wants to open up in a rural area of Frenchtown Township.  This place might employ three people and pay a small amount of taxes to the Township.  They get the last liquor license.  Along comes a large National chain that wants to open a restaurant/bar near the expressway or on Telegraph Rd. in the Township.  This place might employ 50 people, provide huge tax revenue and potentially draw other businesses into the Township.  Who would you rather see get the license?  Sometime “playing favorites” isn’t a bad thing.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 07, 2016, 01:44:45 PM
I think that has to be done, as there are only so many licenses allowed per population. 

Imagine some small “dive” bar wants to open up in a rural area of Frenchtown Township.  This place might employ three people and pay a small amount of taxes to the Township.  They get the last liquor license.  Along comes a large National chain that wants to open a restaurant/bar near the expressway or on Telegraph Rd. in the Township.  This place might employ 50 people, provide huge tax revenue and potentially draw other businesses into the Township.  Who would you rather see get the license?  Sometime “playing favorites” isn’t a bad thing.

If the scenario was always the way you described it then few would argue...

but sometimes we see the 'officials' steering the license to their brother in law or friend or whoever may be paying the biggest graft that is opening up the "dive" bar with three employees!  Some local municipalities are very above board dealing with the licenses and others are not. 

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on July 07, 2016, 04:37:25 PM
In our situation the township supervisors decide.  It's a guessing game as to how the township benefits..
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on July 08, 2016, 08:32:16 AM
I think that has to be done, as there are only so many licenses allowed per population. 

Imagine some small “dive” bar wants to open up in a rural area of Frenchtown Township.  This place might employ three people and pay a small amount of taxes to the Township.  They get the last liquor license.  Along comes a large National chain that wants to open a restaurant/bar near the expressway or on Telegraph Rd. in the Township.  This place might employ 50 people, provide huge tax revenue and potentially draw other businesses into the Township.  Who would you rather see get the license?  Sometime “playing favorites” isn’t a bad thing.

In such a case of a big chain - they have ways of getting approval for an extra one from the State...   
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 12, 2016, 02:00:35 PM
You're all welcome to stop in when we open. My son will be running the place. I know enough to write up orders but have basically a black thumb.
The building is unsightly to put it mildly but structurally it is in great shape with a completely new roof installed in 2011.
Great location and extra space to rent. Plans are in the works to give the facade a new makeover.
Mav

I was in there this afternoon to pick up a 'special delivery'...   Thanks Mav, way nicer than I thought it would be.  I'll be awake with that few nights ;D ;D ;D

Had a chance to meet the store manager and your son Adam.  Both seemed very personable and knowledgeable.  I was thrilled in what I'll call the 'stainless' room...

oil extraction equipment at it's finest.  All stainless flanges and ball valves...   I'll take my son in there and I'll bet he can give me the industry standard name and number on most of those fittings. 

Everything I looked at appeared to be all good quality equipment. 

I believe the store manager said they'd been open for four days and there were people walking in and out all the time I was there.  Not sure any were spending big bucks yet but that will certainly come.

The inside of the building looks way better than the outside but I understand having to get the inside done so you can get open and then working on the exterior. 

All I can say is "location, location, location"!!!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on July 21, 2016, 02:48:37 PM
Appears something is going in the strip in front of Kohls, where the pizza buffet and some of the other stores were located.   Looks like they've gutted the whole empty space.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 21, 2016, 05:39:53 PM
Went north on Telegraph late this morning and there were a couple of sign trucks working at the former Quatros site...

putting up the sing on the Qdoba section.  I just checked their website and no info on when they'll be opening yet...

at least they don't have a sign out front that says "opening soon" ;) ;) ;)

https://www.qdoba.com/ (https://www.qdoba.com/)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on July 21, 2016, 10:14:34 PM
Went north on Telegraph late this morning and there were a couple of sign trucks working at the former Quatros site...

putting up the sing on the Qdoba section.  I just checked their website and no info on when they'll be opening yet...

at least they don't have a sign out front that says "opening soon" ;) ;) ;)

https://www.qdoba.com/ (https://www.qdoba.com/)

I want to know where people are going to park there. Looks like about 15 spaces in the whole lot. With two businesses that's not going to be enough spaces.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 28, 2016, 08:41:36 AM
And a new jewelry store in town...

isn't he up there by the gal with the new shoe store?

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160728/jeweler-opens-store-in-downtown-monroe (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160728/jeweler-opens-store-in-downtown-monroe)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 28, 2016, 09:46:47 AM
Looks familiar.  I think I've seen him to DuMochelles buying pieces.  Thats the place to go if you want fine jewelery and watches but be prepared to pay.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: supermom on July 28, 2016, 12:51:36 PM
And a new jewelry store in town...

isn't he up there by the gal with the new shoe store?

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160728/jeweler-opens-store-in-downtown-monroe[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160728/jeweler-opens-store-in-downtown-monroe[/url])


He is not new. He has been there many years. I wonder if he is funding this "new" operation from the stolen goods he purchased from Corey Heck? He purchased stolen items and wouldn't return them to the rightful owner when the rightful owner contacted him. He only paid $20,000 for $60,000 worth of items.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on July 28, 2016, 08:36:37 PM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160728/3-airports-get-cash-for-runway-projects (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160728/3-airports-get-cash-for-runway-projects)

I remember when "Monroe" was in line for federal funding but Frenchtown decided they didn't want the airport runway and business to succeed...   and the City bowed down to them. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on July 29, 2016, 09:55:27 AM
He is not new. He has been there many years. I wonder if he is funding this "new" operation from the stolen goods he purchased from Corey Heck? He purchased stolen items and wouldn't return them to the rightful owner when the rightful owner contacted him. He only paid $20,000 for $60,000 worth of items.
Sadly the laws say the family must pay the 20K to get the items back -

They can go after the person named above for the $$ - but the business owner if they followed the law is protected.     

so it sounds like they either didn't want or couldn't afford to get some or all of it back?       
Who doesn't insure 60k of jewelry?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on August 06, 2016, 01:34:49 PM
Sadly the laws say the family must pay the 20K to get the items back -

They can go after the person named above for the $$ - but the business owner if they followed the law is protected.     

so it sounds like they either didn't want or couldn't afford to get some or all of it back?       
Who doesn't insure 60k of jewelry?
Sad! I actually know the owner of the property. His grandson was the one who stole the gold coins. It was too late once they located the coins...as the required time to hold had passed.
And the coins totaled closer to $80K...and the store paid $20K? That in itself is thievery!
They weren't scheduled on his insurance, but they were locked in a safe.
Just goes to show that you shouldn't let ANYONE have your combination...family or not!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on August 06, 2016, 06:01:10 PM
[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160728/3-airports-get-cash-for-runway-projects[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160728/3-airports-get-cash-for-runway-projects[/url])

I remember when "Monroe" was in line for federal funding but Frenchtown decided they didn't want the airport runway and business to succeed...   and the City bowed down to them.


That happens often.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on August 07, 2016, 08:27:43 AM
Sad! I actually know the owner of the property. His grandson was the one who stole the gold coins. It was too late once they located the coins...as the required time to hold had passed.
And the coins totaled closer to $80K...and the store paid $20K? That in itself is thievery!
They weren't scheduled on his insurance, but they were locked in a safe.
Just goes to show that you shouldn't let ANYONE have your combination...family or not!
I'll pay the 20K for 80K if the offer is still good!   

Sounds to me like it was pawned instead of sold at that price however -  default of pawn is ownership - but I'm sure theres coverage for proven theft - so the family could take a lesser loss   
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on August 07, 2016, 11:09:00 AM
I'll pay the 20K for 80K if the offer is still good!   

Sounds to me like it was pawned instead of sold at that price however -  default of pawn is ownership - but I'm sure theres coverage for proven theft - so the family could take a lesser loss
According to the Precious Metals and Gem Dealers act of 1981, after 9 days, the purchaser may sell the items he bought. That "act" however, does not have to be followed in this case since the items were gold coins, not subject to the mandatory holding time in the act.
Since there are no "pawn" shops in Monroe, it was not pawned. Had the merchandise been "pawned" then it would have been recoverable, since the holding time on a pawn is longer than items sold.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on August 07, 2016, 11:23:43 AM
Maybe some time had passed from the time the coins were stolen and when it was discovered.
I always though there should be a time limit from when someone first wants to sell something.  Maybe 2 or 3 days. Once something is reported stolen and publicly identified then the pawn shop is taking a risk if they buy stolen merchandise..
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on August 07, 2016, 12:16:10 PM
Maybe some time had passed from the time the coins were stolen and when it was discovered.
I always though there should be a time limit from when someone first wants to sell something.  Maybe 2 or 3 days. Once something is reported stolen and publicly identified then the pawn shop is taking a risk if they buy stolen merchandise..
In this case, the theft was discovered within a day of the culprits release from jail or rehab (can't remember which) but the merchandise was not discovered to have been bought for a few weeks. With gold coins or bullion, there is no holding period...and the store could sell immediately, which I'm sure they did if they stood to make $60K. I had merchandise stolen, and it turned up in this same store, and I was happy to buy it back from them since they had only paid 30% of its worth. They had to know something was wrong with their purchase, since they bought 60 gold crosses from this one girl all at once. They don't care what they buy, and have no remorse. They also broke the law when they told the detective that they couldn't show him the merchandise until the owner could get it the next day...but like I said, I was glad to recover some of the items this heroin head stole, so I let it go.
With any other type of gold, silver or platinum jewelry purchase, the store must wait 9 days before they can do anything with it, and it is open to inspection by any police agency investigation...since a form is turned into the police. Again, if an item is pawned, then the store cannot sell the item until the redemption period ends (30-90 days) but again, this isn't in play since there are no pawn shops in Monroe.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on August 07, 2016, 12:30:58 PM
It's better that the merchandise ends up in a pawn shop or crooked jeweler where you have an opportunity of buying it back. 
We had stuff stolen a number of years ago.  Mostly jewelry that wasn't terribly valuable but all have some sentimental value. 
One day the Monroe detective called and said the Toledo Police had a bunch of stuff they found in the burglers house and a lot of our stuff was on the list.
We went to the Toledo Police to claim our property but only a couple of items were there. 
I ask the police where it was and he got mad at me.
For us he dumped a bunch of stuff on the table and ask if any was ours..
I did find my gold watch with a serial number on the back but he didn't want proof that it was mine.  Just told me to take it.
What a joke. 
Not accusing the police of taking stuff but they just dumped on the table and said take what was yours.
I wish i would have been the first one there.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 07, 2016, 12:47:02 PM
It's better that the merchandise ends up in a pawn shop or crooked jeweler where you have an opportunity of buying it back. 
We had stuff stolen a number of years ago.  Mostly jewelry that wasn't terribly valuable but all have some sentimental value. 
One day the Monroe detective called and said the Toledo Police had a bunch of stuff they found in the burglers house and a lot of our stuff was on the list.
We went to the Toledo Police to claim our property but only a couple of items were there. 
I ask the police where it was and he got mad at me.
For us he dumped a bunch of stuff on the table and ask if any was ours..
I did find my gold watch with a serial number on the back but he didn't want proof that it was mine.  Just told me to take it.
What a joke. 
Not accusing the police of taking stuff but they just dumped on the table and said take what was yours.
I wish i would have been the first one there.

It's been my experience that cops are the biggest crooks there are because they can get away with it.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 08, 2016, 04:46:17 PM
I just saw a tweet from the MonroeNews that Go M.A.D. Fitness is opening a 2nd location in the 1500 block of Telegraph.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on August 08, 2016, 06:27:47 PM
At the corner of 7th across from the Monroe County Road Commission
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on August 08, 2016, 08:58:00 PM
I just saw a tweet from the MonroeNews that Go M.A.D. Fitness is opening a 2nd location in the 1500 block of Telegraph.

They put a new sign (Go Mad) on the one behind McDonald's. Same equipment new name.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on August 08, 2016, 09:05:16 PM
BTW the new Qdobas at Telegraph and Stewart, they were up there scraping the paint off the big Q on new sign where it wrapped around the corner. Guess the boss didn't like it. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on August 08, 2016, 11:50:14 PM
I saw them doing that and suspected that because they were in Frenchtown Township that they ran afoul of the sign ordinance. Too many square inches. I kinda like the look of the logo on the slats like it was.

Isn't that Frenchtown ??
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on August 09, 2016, 12:04:30 AM
Yep.

I don't like the baby crap colors.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 09, 2016, 07:59:00 AM
I saw them doing that and suspected that because they were in Frenchtown Township that they ran afoul of the sign ordinance. Too many square inches. I kinda like the look of the logo on the slats like it was.

Isn't that Frenchtown ??

Yes, that's still Frenchtown.  The line actually runs right through the former La-Z-Boy headquarters building.  That will make for some interesting building inspections if someone wants to develop there with the building in both jurisdictions ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on August 09, 2016, 02:47:48 PM
Brother......why in the hell would they not be hammering that out now so that it is one less thing to do if anyone if decides to do something with that place before it becomes an even bigger empty eye sore?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 10, 2016, 05:54:59 AM
Brother......why in the hell would they not be hammering that out now so that it is one less thing to do if anyone if decides to do something with that place before it becomes an even bigger empty eye sore?

I don't know for a fact that they (city and township) don't have some kind of pre-arranged agreement.  I did not live in the area when that building was built and also don't know the history of when the city parcel transferred from the township.

The property was most likely still all in the townshp when the building was originally built and then at some point the city annexed as far north as the drain (had to have some arbitrary line) which created what now exists.  The building was 'lipsticked' up several years ago so they must have encountered some jurisdictional issues at that point and maybe worked it out then.  Not sure how that will all carry over to a new developer though :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on August 12, 2016, 12:15:46 AM
Looks like the old LaZBoy is all in the city.

http://www.zipmap.net/Michigan/Monroe_County/Monroe.htm (http://www.zipmap.net/Michigan/Monroe_County/Monroe.htm)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 12, 2016, 08:58:05 AM
Looks like the old LaZBoy is all in the city.

[url]http://www.zipmap.net/Michigan/Monroe_County/Monroe.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.zipmap.net/Michigan/Monroe_County/Monroe.htm[/url])


I'll have to go and pull out the report I put together for a project I worked on there (not LZB property but 'right there') several years ago.  I was pretty sure the line followed the drain although as Fuzz pointed out that would sure create future development issues!

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 12, 2016, 06:11:30 PM
The new farm store going in where FoodTown was should be opening around Sept 1st!

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160812/new-family-farm--home-opening-sept-1-in-monroe (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160812/new-family-farm--home-opening-sept-1-in-monroe)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on August 12, 2016, 06:12:39 PM
not really "new" but I see Foodtown on Telegraph must have moved the profitable stuff down a few places - they have pharmacy - Liquor - Lottery store in the strip mall.

The farm store has boxes and signs on door for hiring.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on August 12, 2016, 06:30:56 PM
Reminded me of a commercial I have been seeing advertised on TV down in the St. Louis area......it's a dating website, Farmersonly.com.  Shows a bunch of country chicks in country garb sitting around a big table, one where they are fishing.....I just grin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzAwU_1JzYI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzAwU_1JzYI)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on August 12, 2016, 06:59:41 PM
The Foodtown in Lambertville that was to be an organic health food type grocery store is out. Dollar Tree is going to try Lambertville for the 3rd time.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on August 15, 2016, 09:28:19 PM
The new farm store going in where FoodTown was should be opening around Sept 1st!

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160812/new-family-farm--home-opening-sept-1-in-monroe[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160812/new-family-farm--home-opening-sept-1-in-monroe[/url])


They had a bunch of trailers parked in the lot way out by Telegraph road today. Will probably get stolen before they open up.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 16, 2016, 11:11:32 AM
They had a bunch of trailers parked in the lot way out by Telegraph road today. Will probably get stolen before they open up.

I saw that too last night. 

My first thought was "they'll be doing a police report before they ever ring up their first sale"!!!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on August 18, 2016, 12:48:58 PM
I saw that too last night. 

My first thought was "they'll be doing a police report before they ever ring up their first sale"!!!

Welcome to Monroe!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 18, 2016, 04:45:36 PM
We took a ride Wednesday evening after we had dinner in Monroe...

saw a plumbing truck at the old Wendy's on Laplaisance so there is some work going on inside!!!

We parked in front of the old mall (parking was easy because we were the only vehicle on the property) and I walked up to take a look around.  They do have the windows covered in those two units so can't see anything going on inside.  It did give me a chance to take a closer look at the exterior of the building though.  It's going to take more than putting lipstick on the pig to renovate some parts.  I hadn't been in there for years and everything has really gone down hill.   Even the concrete is  cracked and missing some pieces.  When we drove around back and along the freeway we did see that there is a big dumpster back there but I didn't go crawling through it to see what they're getting rid of. 

After we left there we went across Albain road and saw vehicles and people carrying 'stuff' to the dumpster out behind the old Colonial House Restaurant on the corner of S. Dixie. I haven't had a chance to do any checking on what is going on there but it's long, long overdue.

I missed when they actually did the work but the exterior of the old Colonial House is sporting a new paint job...

looks a whole lot better than it did.  All a nice dark charcoal grey (or gray if you prefer) except the little porch for people to drop off and pick up people...  that hasn't been touched.  Maybe they've decided to just take it down.  No signs up yet...

when I saw all the work done I thought sure there would be a big 'Opening Soon' sign out on the Dixie but if there was I didn't see it ;) ;) ;)

Anyway, it sure looks better.

I have not seen anything new going on at the old Wendy's on Laplaisance though...

too bad because there's quite a bit of work going on all around it and things are picking up ...

a long way to go too though :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on August 18, 2016, 11:23:52 PM
Curious if they painted it to address a blight issue - or is someone really working on restoration.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 18, 2016, 11:47:39 PM
Curious if they painted it to address a blight issue - or is someone really working on restoration.

Tomorrow I'll try to look and see if there has been a recent sale.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 26, 2016, 11:35:37 AM
Tomorrow I'll try to look and see if there has been a recent sale.


I don't see where a sale has been recorded although it could be a lease or a LC or something else too.

I will be going in to visit this place:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160825/mans-love-for-animals-turns-into-new-business (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160825/mans-love-for-animals-turns-into-new-business)

I saw an article on a new 'running' store opening downtown. 

I probably won't be getting in there...

my running days have slowed down...

unless that young neighbor guy comes home from work early...

then I can still get down the road pretty quick :o :o :o
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: livewire on September 02, 2016, 09:14:31 AM
The new farm store going in where FoodTown was should be opening around Sept 1st!

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160812/new-family-farm--home-opening-sept-1-in-monroe[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160812/new-family-farm--home-opening-sept-1-in-monroe[/url])


I stopped in to the new Farm store a couple days ago.  I was driving by and saw they were open.

When I walked in the door, I was just about attacked by a young gal asking me if there was anything I was looking for.  Obviously she was new to retail sales, and was anxious to please her boss.  I laughed and told her I was just looking around, and wanted to check out the new place.

Honestly, it looks like a big Tractor Supply, with slightly higher prices.  I did like their selection, though.  Many times TSC is out of the one thing I go in there looking for.  That one hydraulic fitting, or that one chain master link that I needed...

One of the employees told me they are planning a grand opening the first week in October, with huge sales on just about everything.  I am in the market for a new shop compressor, and I may just have to go in and see what deals they have. 

New businesses take some time to get their roots planted, and see what they can get for their products.  I know the owners of this store, and I hope they are successful.  But in order for that to happen, I really think they need to sharpen their pencils just a bit on their prices - ESPECIALLY in the first few weeks that they are open.  Many people will go in like I did to check it out, and get sticker shock, and never go back in.  I saw their dog food was way high.  That is a HUGE mistake, IMO.  Dog food in a Farm store is like milk and bread in a grocery store.  It brings you back repeatedly, and you often buy other things while you're there.  I know a lot about retail, and I was not too impressed by what I saw so far.

I'll be back, though.  I hope they make it.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on September 02, 2016, 09:41:35 AM
Live,  You're alive !!!  Hardly see you on here anymore. 

I'm stopping in today to see how their chicken feed is priced.

Mav
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on September 02, 2016, 09:49:43 AM
I stopped in to the new Farm store a couple days ago.  I was driving by and saw they were open.

When I walked in the door, I was just about attacked by a young gal asking me if there was anything I was looking for.  Obviously she was new to retail sales, and was anxious to please her boss.  I laughed and told her I was just looking around, and wanted to check out the new place.

Honestly, it looks like a big Tractor Supply, with slightly higher prices.  I did like their selection, though.  Many times TSC is out of the one thing I go in there looking for.  That one hydraulic fitting, or that one chain master link that I needed...

One of the employees told me they are planning a grand opening the first week in October, with huge sales on just about everything.  I am in the market for a new shop compressor, and I may just have to go in and see what deals they have. 

New businesses take some time to get their roots planted, and see what they can get for their products.  I know the owners of this store, and I hope they are successful.  But in order for that to happen, I really think they need to sharpen their pencils just a bit on their prices - ESPECIALLY in the first few weeks that they are open.  Many people will go in like I did to check it out, and get sticker shock, and never go back in.  I saw their dog food was way high.  That is a HUGE mistake, IMO.  Dog food in a Farm store is like milk and bread in a grocery store.  It brings you back repeatedly, and you often buy other things while you're there.  I know a lot about retail, and I was not too impressed by what I saw so far.

I'll be back, though.  I hope they make it.

Some business models call for an initial 'high' retail price so they can then show you your 'savings' from their 'sale' prices.  I've never been a big fan of that model but it must work for some. 

I'm not sure at this point if we would dare change dog food even if they were giving it away.  We have 4 dogs that have been on TSC's high protein Retriever Dog Food for years.  My wife laughs at me when we go in to get 'just a couple bags of dog food' and then end up buying half the store!!!

I'll get in and see what they've got the next time I'm there.  Just bought dog food last week so we don't 'need' any right now.  I see that TSC has been hitting us with mailers and paper inserts and online offers heavier than usual.  I'm sure they've seen what happens when another store moves into one of their established areas.  In the long run selection and service will override a slight price differential.

The new store will definitely be closer to us by 3 or so miles so I will try there first if I only need one or two little things.  As rwwjr regularly points out...  there is not a hardware store in Monroe south of the river.  I guess this new store will get the nod from a lot of 'non farm' customers just because of that.

I was a little disappointed last week when I was in TSC...   I needed some pruning spray sealer for some good trees I need to trim.  They didn't have any.  One gal helped me look and then another said she had looked a few days before for another potential customer.  Years ago when I worked in a Goodyear Farm and Fleet store we had to write up a report for every 'lost sale' that we were aware of.  It went into to corporate and managers got reamed if there were too many...   and especially if it was a repeat item like that.

In fact that's what we originally went into Baker's Ace for was the pruning spray..

then I needed a funnel with a screen and some stainless screws and washers.

Also needed some spray paint that sprays upside down for marking on the ground.  They carry that and many stores don't.

And my wife got another jar of their Dillman Farms jams and jellies...   actually Peach Preserve this time.  Very good quality jams although they are a bit pricey!

Any store that has a huge selection of stainless fasteners will get my attention...  right now in Monroe Baker's are king in that department.  The problem is I go in for $3.00 of self locking nuts and spend $40.00 on other stuff ;) ;) ;)
Title: Drive-in theater proposed for Frenchtown Township
Post by: BigRedDog on September 02, 2016, 09:54:07 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160901/drive-in-theater-proposed-for-frenchtown-township (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160901/drive-in-theater-proposed-for-frenchtown-township)

I have many, many fond memories of the local drive in where I grew up...

I hope they get approval from Frenchtown and can put this together. 

I'm going to post this in the history thread about drive ins because it mentions the 3 former drive ins that were right in that strip.  The fact there have been 3 there in the past should make it an easy decision for Frenchtown.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 02, 2016, 10:00:08 AM
I drive past the on in Oregon, Ohio frequently.  Think it's named 'Sundance Drive In'.....

Somewhere in my junk, I have one of those old die cast aluminum speakers that you put in your car while you 'watched' the movie as the windows fogged up....  Those were the days... ;D

We saw a lot of movies in HS, but I don't remember any of them.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on September 02, 2016, 10:17:12 AM
Live,  You're alive !!!  Hardly see you on here anymore. 

I'm stopping in today to see how their chicken feed is priced.

Mav

TSC is a much larger chain so their buying power should let them buy more and lower prices...

but do they pass the savings along?  And on the other hand they have higher transportation costs I would think so that may offset any savings.  We don't have any chickens (or ducks) right now may be in the market 'soon' ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on September 02, 2016, 10:20:24 AM
I drive past the on in Oregon, Ohio frequently.  Think it's named 'Sundance Drive In'.....

Somewhere in my junk, I have one of those old die cast aluminum speakers that you put in your car while you 'watched' the movie as the windows fogged up....  Those were the days... ;D

We saw a lot of movies in HS, but I don't remember any of them.

Our local drive in was 'The Sunset'...

just saw the listing a week or so ago where it is for sale too.

Anyway the story there was we were going to the Sunset and staying until sunrise!!!

Amazing the 'students' that would skip their biology work all week but go to the drive in all weekend to study 'human anatomy' 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on September 02, 2016, 12:55:46 PM
We saw all of Clint Eastwood's Spaghetti westerns at the Deniston Drive in.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on September 02, 2016, 10:14:27 PM
TSC is a much larger chain so their buying power should let them buy more and lower prices...

but do they pass the savings along?  And on the other hand they have higher transportation costs I would think so that may offset any savings.  We don't have any chickens (or ducks) right now may be in the market 'soon' ;) ;) ;)
We bought 25 hens earlier this year. Turns out 4 were roosters. So, I have some roosters if anyone is interested.

I went to the new Farm store today. Tractor Supply sells my dog food for $19.99. Farm n Fleet has it for $24.99. It did look like they have a larger selection of some items that Tractor Supply and they are closer to several of my projects so I will be going back but NOT for dog food.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 02, 2016, 10:27:47 PM
I stopped in to the new Farm store a couple days ago.  I was driving by and saw they were open.

When I walked in the door, I was just about attacked by a young gal asking me if there was anything I was looking for.  Obviously she was new to retail sales, and was anxious to please her boss.  I laughed and told her I was just looking around, and wanted to check out the new place.

Honestly, it looks like a big Tractor Supply, with slightly higher prices.  I did like their selection, though.  Many times TSC is out of the one thing I go in there looking for.  That one hydraulic fitting, or that one chain master link that I needed...

One of the employees told me they are planning a grand opening the first week in October, with huge sales on just about everything.  I am in the market for a new shop compressor, and I may just have to go in and see what deals they have. 

New businesses take some time to get their roots planted, and see what they can get for their products.  I know the owners of this store, and I hope they are successful.  But in order for that to happen, I really think they need to sharpen their pencils just a bit on their prices - ESPECIALLY in the first few weeks that they are open.  Many people will go in like I did to check it out, and get sticker shock, and never go back in.  I saw their dog food was way high.  That is a HUGE mistake, IMO.  Dog food in a Farm store is like milk and bread in a grocery store.  It brings you back repeatedly, and you often buy other things while you're there.  I know a lot about retail, and I was not too impressed by what I saw so far.

I'll be back, though.  I hope they make it.

You need to shoot me a pm, I'll sell you one of my 3 cheap and I know where there is a nice 7.5 horsepower single phase 2 stage inter cooled one with low hours (80 gallon vertical) for sale too.

There is one in Adrian, we go there...infrequently.  I find their prices to be high but they do have good seed potatoes and onions.  I still say it a reborn County Post.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: livewire on September 03, 2016, 09:15:43 AM
We bought 25 hens earlier this year. Turns out 4 were roosters. So, I have some roosters if anyone is interested.

I went to the new Farm store today. Tractor Supply sells my dog food for $19.99. Farm n Fleet has it for $24.99. It did look like they have a larger selection of some items that Tractor Supply and they are closer to several of my projects so I will be going back but NOT for dog food.


Yeah, I feed my dogs Iams Mini Chunks.  Generally it's a dollar a pound, most places.  $29.99 for a 30 pound bag, etc.  Lately I've been buying it at Sam's Club for $44.95 for a 50 pound bag.  Best price I found.
The Farm and Home store had the 30 pound bags for $32.95, if memory serves me right.

I DID like their selection of hydraulic fittings and hoses.  I have a lot of older farm equipment, and I'm always working on the hydraulics.  I've gotten to where I stock hoses and fittings in my barn, in case of a breakdown.  TSC has some items, some of the time.  Their inventory sucks at times.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: livewire on September 03, 2016, 09:19:30 AM
Live,  You're alive !!!  Hardly see you on here anymore. 

I'm stopping in today to see how their chicken feed is priced.

Mav


Yeah, I've been staying away from MT for a bit.  Too many irons in the fire, I guess.

I think it's time to sell the gun shop.  It's doing okay, but the time it takes and the stress has gotten to be too much.  I really need to slow down some.  Anyone interested in buying a fun (but busy) business, let me know.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 03, 2016, 05:33:51 PM
A gun shop to me would be like being an alcoholic and owning a bar.... ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on September 04, 2016, 10:25:09 AM
We bought 25 hens earlier this year. Turns out 4 were roosters. So, I have some roosters if anyone is interested.


LOL it it pretty hard to look between their legs when they are young hatchlings I guess :)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: T-M-T on September 06, 2016, 02:50:52 PM
Anyone know what is being built in front of Go MAD fitness across the street from Kroger?  It was a gas station many years ago, but vacant for about 20 years.  Seems like they are taking their sweet time scratching around where there were underground tanks and putting up some structural steel.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on September 06, 2016, 03:09:16 PM
Anyone know what is being built in front of Go MAD fitness across the street from Kroger?  It was a gas station many years ago, but vacant for about 20 years.  Seems like they are taking their sweet time scratching around where there were underground tanks and putting up some structural steel.

Jimmy John's  Subs...

they're so busy out delivering subs they only have time to work on a few hours a week ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on September 06, 2016, 07:29:46 PM
Jimmy John's  Subs...

they're so busy out delivering subs they only have time to work on a few hours a week ;D ;D ;D

That construction crew isn't freaky fast.....
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on September 07, 2016, 08:06:44 AM
The old friendly ford will be done first... 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on September 07, 2016, 09:54:22 AM
The old friendly ford will be done first...

I see they've moved their mobile scaffold back from the building and off into a corner.  They could really get going now!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on September 12, 2016, 02:46:35 PM
I see they finished Hi-lite's    Nice job.   
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on September 12, 2016, 04:57:26 PM
I see they finished Hi-lite's    Nice job.

We drove by there Saturday evening and saw it...

definitely a new and modern look.

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on September 13, 2016, 08:12:49 PM
They're working on the parking lot at the old Friendly Ford building on S. Monroe...

still a lot of work to do on the interior though.

I see they have a big 'for lease' sign out in front now.  Seems like that lot is just over 5 acres so there's a lot of room to put more buildings!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on September 20, 2016, 08:26:01 PM
Qdoba opened today.   Sign went up recently for a new Five Below in front of Kohls, and something is going in the old Pizza Hut.  Lots going on suddenly.

Oh, and Kmart DIDN'T close (at least in this week's round of Kmart closings...there's always next week.)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on September 20, 2016, 11:48:27 PM
People were having a very hard time finding a place to park at Qdoba today,

Where was Frenchtown when they were in design plans. Only about 15 spaces for both business'.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on September 21, 2016, 08:58:40 AM
People were having a very hard time finding a place to park at Qdoba today,

Where was Frenchtown when they were in design plans. Only about 15 spaces for both business'.

I don't have any firsthand info on this particular parcel but I will make a few 'guesses' on what 'may' have happened here.

You have to go back probably 50 or more years to when Telegraph was a two lane road and there was no such thing as 'turn lanes' at intersections.  Remember, at that point this most likely still would have been a somewhat rural intersection.

An interesting historic 'side note' here for those not aware it was a restaurant with a slightly 'adult' flare to it at that time so it was probably intended to be 'out of town' somewhat. 

Anyway,  there was plenty of room for parking on all four sides of the building.  Then over the years as Telegraph and Stewart both got more and more traffic that parking all eroded as turn lanes and road widening happened over and over and over.  By the time they ended up tearing down the building it was probably actually in a normal 'clear vision' area for the intersection.  I have no idea how much (if anything) the property owners collected from MDOT or the road commission for any losses of the property or it's use. 

When it came time to tear the building down and relocate it the parcel was probably much smaller than it was originally.  With all the required 'setbacks' from the two roads and all the latest parking requirements you end up with what we have today. 

At this point if Frenchtown  wouldn't have allowed a 'reasonable' use of the property it may have been considered that the township was 'taking' the property under some of the eminent domain laws.   Those can get expensive to settle and can end up in court for years (sometimes decades).  What you see is probably some kind of a compromise that still allowed the owner of the building to get a return on investment. 

Again, I don't have any personal knowledge of this situation and there are so many variables and twists and turns it's hard to guess. 

I guess the long term question is 'will Qdoba have enough parking places to make a profit'?  Did Qdoba realize the parking situation when they signed the lease? 

Lots and lots of variables!

I know I definitely would not park across Telegraph at the mall and try walking over ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on September 21, 2016, 11:45:41 AM
Maybe they made a deal with Burger King it's lot seemed pretty full too.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on September 21, 2016, 09:51:53 PM
Before Quatros went out of business they bought the house next to them on Stewart and made more parking there. They also made a deal with Burger King to allow a cut thru to Stewart in exchange for shared parking which Burger King had too much of. It would be interesting to actually count the number of spaces. My guess is that there are more than 15 even in their own property
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on September 21, 2016, 09:56:24 PM
Before Quatros went out of business they bought the house next to them on Stewart and made more parking there. They also made a deal with Burger King to allow a cut thru to Stewart in exchange for shared parking which Burger King had too much of. It would be interesting to actually count the number of spaces. My guess is that there are more than 15 even in their own property

When I drove by a few days ago I looked and was trying to figure out if that 'cut thru' was still being used...

I guess I'll have to drive into BK and look from that end...  things were too cluttered up looking from Stewart.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on September 21, 2016, 10:41:01 PM
Qdoba opened today.   Sign went up recently for a new Five Below in front of Kohls, and something is going in the old Pizza Hut.  Lots going on suddenly.

Oh, and Kmart DIDN'T close (at least in this week's round of Kmart closings...there's always next week.)
I did see they were re-surfacing the parking lot at the old Pizza Hut - no signs of anything to give a clue yet for the new occupants
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on September 22, 2016, 07:41:37 AM
It cracks me up that the old Food Town / New Family Farm / Fleet painted their pot holed lot black and called it a day.  I guess you would call that "sealing" in the goodness?  I think when there are holes bigger than cars it is too late for that.

At what point will that landlord actually put some money into that facility?

It is always when the "next" tenant comes in.  Never now.

I'm not sure how the "next" tenant will be bigger than the anchor store?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 22, 2016, 12:41:36 PM
It appears to me that the 'Sealcoating' business is booming.  Just apply a new thin black coating and call it good.  Forget the cracks, forget the holes, just coat it.

Maybe the MCRC is involved too....

You and I need to invest in some cheap tar and go in business.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on September 22, 2016, 12:58:17 PM
This is just another example of how the City of Monroe compromises, and gets what it deserves.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on September 22, 2016, 04:51:00 PM
Qdoba opened today.   Sign went up recently for a new Five Below in front of Kohls, and something is going in the old Pizza Hut.  Lots going on suddenly.

Oh, and Kmart DIDN'T close (at least in this week's round of Kmart closings...there's always next week.)


At least they didn't waste any time putting up an "Opening Soon' sign!!!

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160922/five-below-teen-store-opening-on-mall-rd (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160922/five-below-teen-store-opening-on-mall-rd)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on September 22, 2016, 09:27:36 PM
I did see they were re-surfacing the parking lot at the old Pizza Hut - no signs of anything to give a clue yet for the new occupants
Hibachi grill and sushi bar is what I was told!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on September 22, 2016, 10:48:02 PM
That might be worth stopping in for.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on September 23, 2016, 01:18:19 PM
That might be worth stopping in for.
I'm guessing that Professor and I will check it out for sure!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 23, 2016, 01:43:03 PM
Hibachi grill and sushi bar is what I was told!
I've never had good sushi  anywhere but my friend's home in Pittsburg.  His wife is Japanese.

All the sushi I've tried anywhere sucks big time.  Seaweed don't stay good very long...
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Brian Beneteau on September 23, 2016, 02:14:37 PM
I've never had good sushi  anywhere but my friend's home in Pittsburg.  His wife is Japanese.

All the sushi I've tried anywhere sucks big time.  Seaweed don't stay good very long...
I've tried it all over...and my favorite is still Sakura in Toledo.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on September 23, 2016, 02:46:31 PM
I'm wondering if the aroma of 'fresh' sushi will overcome the aroma of 30 yr old pizza ??? ??? ??? ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on September 23, 2016, 02:48:28 PM
Same here.....love the stuff and ready to check this place out when it opens.  BB, let me know, maybe a few of us can go check it out.  Congrats on puttin' a can of whoop *** on me in FF!

Best I've had......Palo Alto over near Stanford University, the place here connected to Dolce Vita's is above average IMO.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on September 23, 2016, 07:21:43 PM
You can't beat Japan for Sushi.

I think it is how they irradiate it?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on September 23, 2016, 08:21:43 PM
Lots of water to do it just off of Fukushima Daiichi.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on September 24, 2016, 11:38:41 AM
Sad but true Fuzz.

I wonder how the "Permafrost" project is coming along.

I hope it is crazy enough to work.

They are going to run out of places to put tanks.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on September 24, 2016, 10:23:16 PM
I'm guessing that Professor and I will check it out for sure!
After our Victory - Oh wait its not open yet!

And we can have a MT reunion -   last one was Mexican so why not Sushi
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on September 25, 2016, 08:28:55 AM
Count me in.......I won't be belligerent to MN or BB this time.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 25, 2016, 10:34:35 AM
Count me in.......I won't be belligerent to MN or BB this time.

That isn't in your makeup....lol

If it's a sushi bar, I'll bring a brown bag meal.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on September 25, 2016, 08:32:23 PM
Count me in.......I won't be belligerent to MN or BB this time.

I didn't think you were belligerent last time?

 ;)

Count me in too.

I don't do Sushi outside of Japan though.....

And the Doctor told me to quit eating Rice, Potatoes, and anything with Flour.

Everything else is AOK - so I think Ice Cream is still IN!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on September 26, 2016, 09:59:21 AM
Topless sushi bars and serving sushi in Gentlemen's clubs are both becoming popular around the country...

I guess we should be happy just to have the sushi here ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on September 26, 2016, 02:38:51 PM
Count me in.......I won't be belligerent to MN or BB this time.
We'll have to have Brian or Mav keep us posted when it opens... 

and if they have the grill it means they do steak and chicken for those who don't enjoy Sushi
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on September 26, 2016, 06:53:00 PM
There is an official sign in the window saying they are coming so at least we have that !!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: AtypicalGirl on September 28, 2016, 07:55:04 AM
We'll have to have Brian or Mav keep us posted when it opens... 

and if they have the grill it means they do steak and chicken for those who don't enjoy Sushi

The talk of sushi was making me ill.... But chicken is good.....   ;D 8*
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: dtrrman on December 12, 2016, 02:02:26 PM
Anybody know what is going in the building on the corner of South Dixie and Jones avenue across from Krogers?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on December 19, 2016, 01:19:10 PM
Anybody know what is going in the building on the corner of South Dixie and Jones avenue across from Krogers?
I think it's a Jimmy Johns...    older posts ID that
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 19, 2016, 07:23:26 PM
I think it's a Jimmy Johns...    older posts ID that

Freaky Fast - except in the  building process
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on December 20, 2016, 10:16:29 AM
I think the larger building project next door will be completed first!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on December 20, 2016, 04:26:06 PM
Dollar store is already open
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on December 20, 2016, 05:27:05 PM
I see them all over. Never been in one.  Have to take a look someday
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 20, 2016, 06:17:05 PM
Dollar Stores or Jimmy Johns?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on December 20, 2016, 08:25:29 PM
Dollar.   Been to JJ once. Didn't care for it
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: livewire on December 24, 2016, 12:46:12 PM
I'd much rather go to a Jimmy Johns, as opposed to a dollar store.

Dollar stores are nothing more than a big room filled with overpriced Chinese garbage.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on December 24, 2016, 12:54:31 PM
So Dollar Stores are the Harbor Freight fir women
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on December 24, 2016, 01:29:56 PM
I bought some of their stock years ago after investigating their procurement habits, overhead structure, and site selection.  Yes, they do buy "some" stuff from China....hard to find any retailer that doesn't nowadays.  Most of their general merchandise is purchased by the lot from other dime stores who do not want to hold slower moving goods in their inventory.

When the company puts me up in places with a kitchen, I will generally get all my canned goods there....their pricing rocks as they operate on lower profit margins than most grocery stores do.  Household and cleaning stuff is priced right too.

Meats, milk, etc.......I stay away from and hit the local smaller grocers for those and produce.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on December 28, 2016, 09:12:15 AM
Difference of Dollar store vs Dollar General... 

one is a store that has items for a dollar or less (now around 5 or less) - the other is a general store that takes advantage of that "Dollar" thought...
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on December 28, 2016, 10:21:28 AM
True.......I was referring to Dollar General.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on December 28, 2016, 10:24:14 AM
Dollar General kind of reminds me of a mini Walmart.   Seems like they are usually found in very small towns but they must be expanding a bit.   Probably really nice to have them in a tiny town 30 miles from anything.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on December 28, 2016, 10:34:33 AM
Very true......it was just observing their site selection and presence in small towns that made me do the research about 5 years or so ago.  Very low overhead.....buildings are not much more than a pole barn, 10 employees or so max per store, and they have a knack in building near captive markets.

They recently went through some downsizing like most good businesses will do.....closed several under performing stores.

Has been a good investment for me since around 2010 at about $20/share and peaked at $95 last summer.  It is holding around 75 now.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on December 29, 2016, 11:52:52 AM
Damn   -  I think I tried a stock talk section somewhere

for play purposes only as we are not professionals  :)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on December 29, 2016, 12:17:56 PM
I'm a dabbler.......just see things around the world that look interesting and profitable to me and then so some research and grab some.  Winners and losers for sure, but every once in a while even a blind squirrel can find a nut.   ;)

Recommending investments is kind of like giving marriage tips.....gonnapisssomeone off.  LMAO

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: indy99 on January 06, 2017, 12:27:52 PM
Well I tried out the Front st. diner at Telegraph and Front at the old Farmer Jack plaza.

 8*  American food.  Slow service from the cook. 18 minutes for a patty melt w/fries.  He was busy talking to the ladies.

Average fare nothing special.  I give it until July to survive.   My score 6.7.

To me if you are going to put a restaurant in Monroe it needs a wow factor for the masses.  There are enough corporate, american, and pizza joints to populate a large city let alone Monroe.  Another ho-hum place isn't going to do it.   Waiting for a new place.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: T-M-T on January 06, 2017, 01:06:29 PM
When I travel and go to a restaurant that is crowded and doing well, I sometimes imagine, “How would this place do in Monroe?”  In almost every case, I am positive the place would go down in flames.  I can just hear Monrovians complaining:

•   “The food is too expensive.  I remember when you could get a steak at Ponderosa for $6.99!”
•   “The drinks are too expensive.  And why do they have all these kinds of beer and all these fancy drinks?  Didn’t they ever hear of Budweiser?”
•   “ I just want plain old ‘Merican food, not this spicy foreign stuff”
•   “The portions are too small.  I want a gigantic plate of food so I’m stuffed when I leave.  The hell with quality, I want quantity!”

Duffs was the quintessential Monroe place.  I’m surprised no one has tried to bring it back. Cheap, tasteless, bland, disgusting food that all tastes the same, in mass quantities.  Anything other than that is a risk around here.
 
The “Mexican” places are especially pathetic.  Americanized plates of spiceless mash, served beside stale chips and some watery stuff they call “salsa.” (I do have to say that Amaya’s is a small step in the right direction, but I’m afraid their menu will eventually drift away from the Fresh-Mex and into the plates of mash covered with melted cheese that people around here seem to really want.)

Numbers-wise, we should have enough population to support a few good Asian choices, a Mediterranean place or two, some real Mexican places and maybe a nice Indian restaurant, among others. 

Fortunately, Ann Arbor has a great selection of all these types of places less than an hour’s drive away.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on January 06, 2017, 02:48:28 PM
^^^^
Most truthful post ever on MT.   

There are a few good restaurants in Monroe.   They are not the most popular restaurants in Monroe.   In general in Monroe, if you have to wait...you should probably take that as a sign to get the heck out of there.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on January 06, 2017, 03:43:21 PM
I agree T, I loved that little Mediterranean style place that was in that strip mall (Monroe Plaza?) where the McDonald's entrance is on Telegraph.  Great array of lamb dishes.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: rwwjr on January 07, 2017, 11:28:20 AM
Went to Red Lobster the other night.  Drove past the new sports bar, the old Bob Evans  Lights were on in the building, so some strides are bing made in their opening
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 07, 2017, 11:56:46 AM
^^^^
Most truthful post ever on MT.   

There are a few good restaurants in Monroe.   They are not the most popular restaurants in Monroe.   In general in Monroe, if you have to wait...you should probably take that as a sign to get the heck out of there.

What you are saying is...  Morons have no taste for quality, they want tasteless quantity...  Sounds like a 'Golden Buffet' would do well.  Quantity, not quality....

I only go yo KFC when in town, or Tim Hortons where I get back more change than I tender...
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tim Heiss on January 07, 2017, 02:07:16 PM
When I travel and go to a restaurant that is crowded and doing well, I sometimes imagine, “How would this place do in Monroe?”  In almost every case, I am positive the place would go down in flames.  I can just hear Monrovians complaining:

•   “The food is too expensive.  I remember when you could get a steak at Ponderosa for $6.99!”
•   “The drinks are too expensive.  And why do they have all these kinds of beer and all these fancy drinks?  Didn’t they ever hear of Budweiser?”
•   “ I just want plain old ‘Merican food, not this spicy foreign stuff”
•   “The portions are too small.  I want a gigantic plate of food so I’m stuffed when I leave.  The hell with quality, I want quantity!”

Duffs was the quintessential Monroe place.  I’m surprised no one has tried to bring it back. Cheap, tasteless, bland, disgusting food that all tastes the same, in mass quantities.  Anything other than that is a risk around here.
 
The “Mexican” places are especially pathetic.  Americanized plates of spiceless mash, served beside stale chips and some watery stuff they call “salsa.” (I do have to say that Amaya’s is a small step in the right direction, but I’m afraid their menu will eventually drift away from the Fresh-Mex and into the plates of mash covered with melted cheese that people around here seem to really want.)

Numbers-wise, we should have enough population to support a few good Asian choices, a Mediterranean place or two, some real Mexican places and maybe a nice Indian restaurant, among others. 

Fortunately, Ann Arbor has a great selection of all these types of places less than an hour’s drive away.

Speaking of really good authentic Mexican food, we have one here in Jackson. The place is called Chilango's and they have been growing by leaps and bounds.They started out in a little hole in the wall place, which they still have, but they have opened 2 other places around town here that offer different fare. The burrito bar/chop house downtown, which caters more to the daily lunch crowd and the late night crowd on the weekends (open until 2 am on Friday and Saturday), and more recently the Broken egg which is on the west side of town which is only open until 3 pm and serves authentic Mexican breakfast and lunch. They are continuing their growth with a new higher class dining restaurant which they purchased from a restaurant that had a fire 2 years ago and never reopened. This place was featured on MLive and will have 65 types of Tequila.

I've been to all 3 places and am looking forward to their newest addition.

Original http://www.mlive.com/dining/index.ssf/2014/05/michigans_best_taco_chilangos.html (http://www.mlive.com/dining/index.ssf/2014/05/michigans_best_taco_chilangos.html)

Broken Egg http://www.mlive.com/business/jackson-lansing/index.ssf/2015/12/chilangos_broken_egg.html (http://www.mlive.com/business/jackson-lansing/index.ssf/2015/12/chilangos_broken_egg.html)

New Restaurant http://www.mlive.com/news/jackson/index.ssf/2016/12/chilangos_targets_end_of_decem.html (http://www.mlive.com/news/jackson/index.ssf/2016/12/chilangos_targets_end_of_decem.html)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on March 07, 2017, 09:53:25 AM
Looks like a Chinese fast food place is going to build next to the Meijer gas station.   Menchies Frozen Yogurt is getting close to open near Starbucks, and signs went up in front of the old Little Dixie/Mexican restaurant next to the old LZB Headquarters for a new shopping center.   

Weird that they can fill these new shopping centers so quick.   Owners of the older ones need to invest in modernization apparently.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: rwwjr on March 07, 2017, 10:00:02 AM
Anyone know whats going on with the Jimmy John's On S Monroe St?  Have not seen anyone on site for a long time.  Form still there for sidewalk, but looks like the job was stopped right in the middle of it.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on March 07, 2017, 10:11:58 AM
State really encouraging new businesses.
I have a friend wanting to open a beauty shop in a building that previously was a beauty shop and closed maybe 4 months ago.
Ready to open after township inspection and licenses but state says "hold on, we need to inspect but can't tell you when it will be."
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on March 07, 2017, 08:39:35 PM
One issue for Jimmy Johns is that they can't get asphalt for at least a few more weeks.   Not sure what else is holding it up but they seem to. E slowly working on it.   JJ in Dundee is going slow as molasses too. 

City of Monroe hates business too.   They are trying their best to get the lady that owns the Book Nook to just give up. 


 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on March 14, 2017, 10:56:42 AM
Mrs. Fuzz is looking for some clothes alterations to be done and told me she went to a few places listed in the Yellow Pages only to find them closed.

Anybody have a recommendation?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Viper52 on March 14, 2017, 11:23:27 AM
I wanted to have a zipper put in a leaf blower bag to make it easier to empty. I only found one person open in Monroe county. She works out of her basement out on Bluebush rd. on the way to Maybee. It's Corinnes Alterations 734-242-8037. I don't remember her hours, but you might want to call first. I remember seeing a lot of police uniforms she was working on.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on March 14, 2017, 12:27:29 PM
Corrines is right around the corner from me and yes she works out of her basement. Calling first is recommended. She does great work at reasonable prices.
Mav
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on March 14, 2017, 12:36:50 PM
Thanks Guys!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on March 20, 2017, 11:15:17 AM
Still waiting for the old pizza hut  "Sushi" place to put up "opening soon" signs  :)    they must be training all their employee's in Japan right now?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 20, 2017, 01:34:28 PM
Sushi Hut....  Sounds disgusting. ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on March 23, 2017, 02:20:54 PM
I guess they have lots of money or need the write offs...    can't imagine the business plans some of these places use?       

1.  borrow money fix up place
2.  let place sit empty for a year
3.  keep public wondering

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on March 26, 2017, 12:35:04 PM
Sushi Hut opens tomorrow.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 26, 2017, 09:00:03 PM
Sushi Hut opens tomorrow.

I'll be sure not to stop by......  Good sushi is very hard to find.  Bad sushi is terrible and most of it is bad.

BTW, how is I hop doing over on Dixie?  Never made it over there yet.  I don't go to Monroe unless I have to.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Newport-Bill on March 27, 2017, 11:07:45 AM
I have been a couple of times at dinner time.  Not real busy, maybe 1/3 full, but I am guessing breakfast time would be more popular.  Just like all iHOPs menu wise.  Service was decent.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 27, 2017, 12:50:52 PM
I have been a couple of times at dinner time.  Not real busy, maybe 1/3 full, but I am guessing breakfast time would be more popular.  Just like all iHOPs menu wise.  Service was decent.

Thanks, it's on my bucket list.  I just rarely get that way.  I'm usually going the other way, toward Adrian.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on March 27, 2017, 10:40:58 PM
Just drove past the Sushi place on Telegraph in Monroe - all lit up and the Sign says we are open...   

I guess they were just waiting for nice weather  ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 27, 2017, 11:41:18 PM
Just drove past the Sushi place on Telegraph in Monroe - all lit up and the Sign says we are open...   

I guess they were just waiting for nice weather  ;)

The warmer it is, the faster sushi turns bad.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: indy99 on March 29, 2017, 01:48:33 AM
Well I tried the new sushi place on Telegraph on Monday (first day open).  Normally I wait a few weeks to give them a chance to work the kinks out but ms. L wanted to try it anyway.

If you are looking for a 5.00 quickee lunch stop this is not it.  It is a finer dining restaurant.

On a scale of 1 to 10 here are my scores.

8.5 Interior design.  Very nicely done with a grey woodwork design on the walls and Asian elements throughout.

9.5 Seating. Booths around the perimeter, 2 tatami booths with curtains on the east wall and sushi bar seating in the center where the chefs are working.  Very nice design and a big  pun intended thank you for extra room so the table in the booth does not squeeze you like typical booths.

9.0  Servers.  Very attentive, polite, and did a very nice job. they had some problems with the pop dispenser but not a big deal.

9.5  Food.  This is the biggie.  Ms. L ordered a sushi roll with a variety of sushi, I had a shrimp hibachi lunch that came with a choice of clear or miso soup.  Excellent, we both tasted each others meal and can say that the taste and presentation were very good. The miso soup had some small bits of tofu in it plus green onion bits and some seaweed in it. Very nice and tasty.

    The hibachi meal had 6-8 shrimps, a light brown sauce, and a carrot plus greens garnish making it a great looking plate.  Her plate had the variety of sushi including a tempura one and some with cream cheese and avocados.  Excellent taste on all of them.

All in all we felt that the entire experience especially for their first day turned out great.  Will we go back??? Absolutely and looking forward to it.  It is a very nice restaurant and a breath of fresh air here in Monroe.  The menu is not overwhelming but it does have a great selection of dishes to try.

Our bill came to 27.59  this was for 2 persons with 1 main menu selection and 1 lunch selection plus 2 soft drinks. No alcohol at this time. First day and first time I tipped at 40% just because. :D

side note.... I am not affiliated nor do I know anyone working or owning the restaurant.  My review is strictly based on my experience at the venue and was not influenced by any outside information.

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Newport-Bill on March 29, 2017, 09:07:34 AM
Sounds good and I hope they make it.  Unfortunately for me I don't care for sushi.

My line to my daughter is "the only thing that eats raw fish is other fish." and yes I know there is tempura and cooked items.  ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on March 29, 2017, 10:09:25 AM
Thanks for the report.  I kind of like sushi but couldn't eat it more than maybe once a month,
One gets tired of chicken and beef after awhile.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Newport-Bill on March 29, 2017, 10:56:37 AM
One gets tired of chicken and beef after awhile.

That's why there's venison!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on March 29, 2017, 11:52:45 AM
My daughters friend doesn't share much of his
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 29, 2017, 12:38:58 PM
My daughters friend doesn't share much of his

I fully understand that.  I rarely share either.  Especially meat from out west hunts.  Too expensive per pound to share.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 29, 2017, 12:40:24 PM
having worked is a beanery when I was a kid (my uncle owned a sit down family style place in Norwalk, Ohio, I can tell you the cheapest thing in any beanery is the food.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on March 29, 2017, 12:55:21 PM
I stopped last night at the sushi place hoping to get a few rolls for dine in. There was a 45 minute wait at 8:30. Im not a fan of waiting to eat so I'll go back some other time.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on March 29, 2017, 02:08:39 PM
Thanks for the review Mav   I'm looking forward to trying it.   

I recall when White Castle opened the lines out on Telegraph...   I just hope they get enough continuous business to stay healthy and provide the quality services you describe!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on March 29, 2017, 02:58:22 PM
LOL  I thought their biggest problem would be keeping their fish fresh. After the honeymoon period that will still be my concern but it won't keep me from going regularly.

I picked up a menu for take out.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 29, 2017, 10:19:44 PM
I bet CL cats would love the place...... ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: livewire on March 31, 2017, 04:50:15 PM
I would love to try it, but I'm afraid I would have to go in alone.  My wife hates fish, and sushi isn't even a possibility for her.  Lol

I hope they make it. 

Personally, I think Monroe is not a good location for it.  Yeah, right now everyone wants to try it out, but after the new wears off, they might have a hard time getting enough turnover.

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 31, 2017, 07:44:33 PM
Too yuppie for Moron.  Need to be in Ann Arbor.

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on March 31, 2017, 08:59:30 PM
Too yuppie for Moron.  Need to be in Ann Arbor.

Not yuppie enough for the Peoples Republic.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: livewire on April 01, 2017, 08:00:01 AM
Too yuppie for Moron.  Need to be in Ann Arbor.


Yup.



Now if it was called Billie-Bobs Sushi and Bait Shack, it might have a chance!!!

When the sushi gets too old to serve, they can sell it as bait!  NO WASTE!!!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on April 01, 2017, 09:55:13 AM
I thought it should have been Sushi Hut given the location !!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on April 05, 2017, 10:18:32 PM
I enjoyed my lunch there...  will return for dinner soon
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on April 21, 2017, 08:15:27 AM
Maybe we need a new category in the Business section...

Businesses trying it a 2nd time around in Monroe!

Fazolis is coming back!!!

We always enjoyed going there although we actually went more often to their place on Telegraph near Alexis in Toledo. 

Not sure how often we'll go to the TA Center to visit them but maybe they'll do just fine out there.

Does anyone know if this is a franchise operation...   is this the same operator as before?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on April 21, 2017, 08:16:20 AM
I thought it should have been Sushi Hut given the location !!

 ;D ;D ;D ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on April 21, 2017, 12:02:38 PM
Fazoli's ???  In Truckstops of America ??  I loved their spaghetti and meatballs
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 21, 2017, 02:46:35 PM
Fazoli's ???  In Truckstops of America ??  I loved their spaghetti and meatballs

At the TA?  You can have dinner and go out in the lot and get relieved for an additional 20 bucks. ;D

Be careful you don't trip over a towel head though.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on April 21, 2017, 06:40:04 PM
There was a Fazoli by Lowes on Alexis.  Much better fast food option
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on April 22, 2017, 09:01:17 AM
We had dinner at the Sushi Hut last night with our youngest and her soon to be husband.  Pretty good selection of entrees (including Hibachi cooked meals for those who don't care for the raw fish), and nice array of appetizers.

I read a few reviews, and recalled from here on the forum, that one of the knocks was length of time from ordering to food served.  Every order is made to order, nothing prepared from the best I could see from the operation....and therefore the length of time.

I'm not enough of a connoisseur to tell a big difference from any of the places where I have tried it before, but I thought it was very good.  I do question what makes a good sushi place and a bad one; is it the quality of the fish?  I would think rice is rice, and mostly basic ingredients.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 22, 2017, 09:12:54 AM
We had dinner at the Sushi Hut last night with our youngest and her soon to be husband.  Pretty good selection of entrees (including Hibachi cooked meals for those who don't care for the raw fish), and nice array of appetizers.

I read a few reviews, and recalled from here on the forum, that one of the knocks was length of time from ordering to food served.  Every order is made to order, nothing prepared from the best I could see from the operation....and therefore the length of time.

I'm not enough of a connoisseur to tell a big difference from any of the places where I have tried it before, but I thought it was very good.  I do question what makes a good sushi place and a bad one; is it the quality of the fish?  I would think rice is rice, and mostly basic ingredients.

The difference between a good sushi place and a bad one is the smell....  Old fish stinks. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on April 22, 2017, 09:23:12 AM
Then I guess I have never been to a bad one........based on the small sample size I have experience with I never noticed a difference in the smell of the fish.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on April 22, 2017, 10:50:52 AM
We had dinner at the Sushi Hut last night with our youngest and her soon to be husband.  Pretty good selection of entrees (including Hibachi cooked meals for those who don't care for the raw fish), and nice array of appetizers.

I read a few reviews, and recalled from here on the forum, that one of the knocks was length of time from ordering to food served.  Every order is made to order, nothing prepared from the best I could see from the operation....and therefore the length of time.

I'm not enough of a connoisseur to tell a big difference from any of the places where I have tried it before, but I thought it was very good.  I do question what makes a good sushi place and a bad one; is it the quality of the fish?  I would think rice is rice, and mostly basic ingredients.
I had Sushi Hut to go last night. The difference between bad and good  sushi is the ingredients and quantity and presentation. Their presentation i.e. eggs and eel sauce on top of the rolls I got were lacking. I find the same thing at Dolce. Some of the sushi places in Detroit and Toledo take a little more care in adding toppings which I personally like. Sushi Huts fish pieces were markedly smaller last night than when I was there 3 nights ago. Probably just the different style of the preparer. Either that or it was the owner cutting corners for the bottom line !!
All Sushi places are different of course and once you have been to a really good one, all others are lacking.
My all time favorite was EnJapanese Steak house in Toledo. Toby, the owner always took great pride in ingredients and presentation. They are closed now but even the kids would choose going there for their birthdays.
Bad fish, bad sushi---pretty obvious. If you get a taste of bad fish it tends to ruin your meal !!!
No different than finding a worm in your salad or raw chicken. You shy away from it for a while but eventually go back.
Sushi Hut so far----4.5 stars
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on April 22, 2017, 01:36:38 PM
Interesting and good points......agree on the fish size being lacking now that you mention it.

The hot Saki wasn't bad,,,,,,,I guess I just haven't hit that Sushi Bar yet that makes good from bad distinguish itself.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 22, 2017, 04:06:51 PM
I could get diarreha just reading these posts........yuk
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on April 22, 2017, 10:29:42 PM
You probably have some over the counter stuff there at the house that may help, enjoy.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on April 23, 2017, 09:07:27 AM
Interesting and good points......agree on the fish size being lacking now that you mention it.

The hot Saki wasn't bad,,,,,,,I guess I just haven't hit that Sushi Bar yet that makes good from bad distinguish itself.
Good to hear they have Saki now - as I enjoy a hot Saki with my Sushi!   
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on April 23, 2017, 08:54:05 PM
Good to hear they have Saki now - as I enjoy a hot Saki with my Sushi!   


Hey Fuzz, doesn't that sound almost obscene?  8*
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on April 24, 2017, 08:17:08 AM
always make me think of - if you knew sushi like I know sushi...

Gene Kelly and Frank Sinatra - If you knew Susie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJPJ7jsUOgw#)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on April 24, 2017, 12:53:01 PM
Hey Fuzz, doesn't that sound almost obscene?  8*

LOL.....it's possible I tried that line at an Asian restaurant after being over-indulged.   
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on May 12, 2017, 09:26:00 PM
Appears Finish Line in the mall closed in addition to Rue21 and Payless which were are or soon will be.   Looks like the mall is down to 25 tenants if you don't count kiosks, vending machines, and mall offices.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 13, 2017, 09:35:49 AM
The 'mall' concept is a dead on arrival concept in America today.  Eventually, they will all succumb to the wrecking ball.

Malls went out of fashion with our generation, replaced by small strip stores and satellite stores.  Everytime I go by Northtowne mall and look at the vast wasteland of nothing, I think to myself it could be used for something...what, I have no idea.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on May 15, 2017, 08:05:57 AM
I guess I posted this in the wrong thread accidentally.   Though there are plenty of openings at the mall LOL.

Agree, but I think ours has an acute problem.

Maybe they could put a small airport at Northtowne.   http://www.airfields-freeman.com/OH/Airfields_OH_NW.htm#national (http://www.airfields-freeman.com/OH/Airfields_OH_NW.htm#national)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 15, 2017, 09:07:03 AM
I guess I posted this in the wrong thread accidentally.   Though there are plenty of openings at the mall LOL.

Agree, but I think ours has an acute problem.


Maybe they could put a small airport at Northtowne.   [url]http://www.airfields-freeman.com/OH/Airfields_OH_NW.htm#national[/url] ([url]http://www.airfields-freeman.com/OH/Airfields_OH_NW.htm#national[/url])


There are many photos around of the old airfield at Northtowne.

Here is a timely article from the Midland paper on possible uses for old malls.  The Midland area has similar demographics as Monroe and their mall is newer and a larger but is actually in foreclosure. 

http://www.ourmidland.com/technology/businessinsider/article/Dallas-Is-Not-Planning-To-Kill-The-Dog-Of-The-5331589.php (http://www.ourmidland.com/technology/businessinsider/article/Dallas-Is-Not-Planning-To-Kill-The-Dog-Of-The-5331589.php)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 15, 2017, 09:18:01 AM
Some more related reading:
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/04/retail-meltdown-of-2017/522384/?sf77109106=1 (https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/04/retail-meltdown-of-2017/522384/?sf77109106=1)

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 15, 2017, 10:52:36 PM
What Toledo really needs at Northtowne is what was on Benore at Alexis before Alexis was even there...  A dog track.  But the Penn Mutual Gaming would be pizzed off, why the horse racing track was closed and demolished.

You could make it farmland again I guess if you could dispose of all the concrete and asphalt.

I suspect it will sit like it is for a very long time.  Probably what will happen to the Mall in Monroe as well...
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on May 15, 2017, 11:42:29 PM
I noticed every time we go by the new Ihop and Taco Bell on N. Dixie they are empty. Taco Bell usually does well everywhere they are, but I don't know about Ihop. We tried it once and it seemed like their omelet was brought in frozen and heated up.

Don't think they will be around long.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on May 16, 2017, 08:50:29 AM
I thought Toledo got some grant money to do underground demolition but seems like nothing has happened there.   Walmart wanted to build there and Carty blocked it.  Would have been better than what's there now.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 16, 2017, 10:16:19 AM
I thought Toledo got some grant money to do underground demolition but seems like nothing has happened there.   Walmart wanted to build there and Carty blocked it.  Would have been better than what's there now.

Agreed.  Now it's a wasteland, eyesore.  The sign says 'Welcome to Toledo' and you are greeted with...nothing but piles of concrete and a ring road that is full of craters.

I see they are working on the building on the SW end of the road near 24 that used to be some sort of beanery.  Were working on the roof the other day...

Additionally, lots of activity at the defunct Carter Building Center complex on 24, just south of the Mi-Ohio line.  A new black security fence has been installed and there is work going on inside the buildings.  I know who is moving in even though there are no signs posted.  I know the management of the company (Industrial / Retail who purchased the property and they have a lot of updating and moving of heavy equipment to do before they can open the doors.  They sell to the public and to industry as well.  Knowing them, it will be a nice addition to the otherwise crappy looking stretch of Telegraph.

I'll let everyone guess on who it is.  Not public knowledge yet so I won't 'spill the beans'.

Let me say this, it's a lateral move from another location nearby in Toledo, that they have outgrown.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on May 16, 2017, 12:22:50 PM
Are they re-opening the gambling Club?

Illegal Gambling Clubs of Toledo

October 23, 2014 ·

Here's an old chip from the illegal Hollywood Club which was located at 6115 Telegraph Road, which is presently Carter Lumber. The Hollywood's original location was downtown on Superior. Once they had moved out to the larger Telegraph spot they opened and closed many times due to raids. They were finally closed down for good in 1951 when the heat was too hot to bare, and the senate Kefauver hearings on organized crime. Hollywood Club had three different issues of chips...they were just so busy that the chips became too worn and had to be replaced.

(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10616301_586795781448904_1873453870977844414_n.jpg?oh=a6c539fb88f03461e8e9c6002aa9f7f4&oe=59B67C83)

https://www.facebook.com/IllegalGamblingClubsOfToledo/ (https://www.facebook.com/IllegalGamblingClubsOfToledo/)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 16, 2017, 04:48:57 PM
Lets not forget Angelo's place across from Ort Tool and Die.  It has a long and colorful history.  From a speak-easy to gambling joint and gang hangout to a high priced beanery today.  We know Angelo btw.  I like the food but I don't like the prices...
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 17, 2017, 10:37:17 AM
Agreed.  Now it's a wasteland, eyesore.  The sign says 'Welcome to Toledo' and you are greeted with...nothing but piles of concrete and a ring road that is full of craters.

I see they are working on the building on the SW end of the road near 24 that used to be some sort of beanery.  Were working on the roof the other day...

Additionally, lots of activity at the defunct Carter Building Center complex on 24, just south of the Mi-Ohio line.  A new black security fence has been installed and there is work going on inside the buildings.  I know who is moving in even though there are no signs posted.  I know the management of the company (Industrial / Retail who purchased the property and they have a lot of updating and moving of heavy equipment to do before they can open the doors.  They sell to the public and to industry as well.  Knowing them, it will be a nice addition to the otherwise crappy looking stretch of Telegraph.

I'll let everyone guess on who it is.  Not public knowledge yet so I won't 'spill the beans'.

Let me say this, it's a lateral move from another location nearby in Toledo, that they have outgrown.

The Toledo assessor's office shows James Rostash as the new owner as of February of this year.

For those that don't know (of) him he is a Monroe Attorney and business person.  He's been getting into the self storage business around Monroe County so sounds like he either bought the property for a self storage location or he's on the deed to 'hide' the true ownership of the property.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on May 17, 2017, 04:38:45 PM
Self storage
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 17, 2017, 05:29:37 PM
Bingo
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 19, 2017, 09:20:29 AM
Self storage

Bingo

We drove home that way yesterday and it definitely looks a lot better.

They aren't going to any effort to conceal the 'new' use of the property...   there is a huge sign on a tall pole that says "State Storage".


Also interesting that when I looked up the sale of the property that Carter Lumber was still showing as Carter Jones Lumber Company.  I haven't heard a reference to Jones in years.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on May 23, 2017, 08:13:10 AM
The paper has a story about the quarry opening a bar/restaurant on Hull road side.

I think the "building soon" sign is coming soon. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 23, 2017, 10:45:00 AM
'Nother beanery...how many beaneries can you have anyway?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on May 23, 2017, 05:15:42 PM
I think it's going to be a bear joint with some food
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 24, 2017, 09:14:41 AM
The paper has a story about the quarry opening a bar/restaurant on Hull road side.

I think the "building soon" sign is coming soon.


I don't know that I would be in a big hurry to make any reservations.

This is from an article from the MonroeNews last fall...

and "next spring is now!!!

Quote
Plans for a new waterfront restaurant along the shores of the quarry in Monroe Township are moving forward and the developer said he is confident the establishment will be ready for customers by next spring.


Above is from:  http://www.monroenews.com/news/20161028/plans-for-hull-rd-quarry-restaurant-moving-forward (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20161028/plans-for-hull-rd-quarry-restaurant-moving-forward)

I think it's going to be a bear joint with some food


For those that are not aware the 'developer' is Bill Gross who owned the Riverfront Marina and bar (among others) for years.  I would expect this restaurant to be along similar lines but without the many, many boaters motoring up the river to enjoy a cold one (or two) ;) ;) ;)

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on May 24, 2017, 04:22:11 PM
The building is well underway.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 25, 2017, 07:54:14 AM
The building is well underway.

And also still has plenty of work to finish...

looks like they're just working on all the underground for the parking lot.

I wonder if they'll have to install a retention pond for storm runoff?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on May 25, 2017, 12:39:16 PM
LOL  Although it makes no sense. I wouldn't be at all surprised that there needs to be detention for the parking lot.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 25, 2017, 01:41:40 PM
LOL  Although it makes no sense. I wouldn't be at all surprised that there needs to be detention for the parking lot.


LOL  Although it makes no sense. I wouldn't be at all surprised that there needs to be detention for the parking lot.

Yes, detention is the correct word...

both have to do with retaining the stormwater runoff from the surface of the parking lot but the difference is the length of time that that is required to store this runoff!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Tiny on May 26, 2017, 10:31:14 AM
We had dinner at the Sushi Hut last night with our youngest and her soon to be husband.  Pretty good selection of entrees (including Hibachi cooked meals for those who don't care for the raw fish), and nice array of appetizers.

I read a few reviews, and recalled from here on the forum, that one of the knocks was length of time from ordering to food served.  Every order is made to order, nothing prepared from the best I could see from the operation....and therefore the length of time.

I'm not enough of a connoisseur to tell a big difference from any of the places where I have tried it before, but I thought it was very good.  I do question what makes a good sushi place and a bad one; is it the quality of the fish?  I would think rice is rice, and mostly basic ingredients.

For you Sushi lovers...

I was watching "The Doctors" TV show today and they said almost all seafood is imported into the US, and that less than 2% of it is inspected. They also said that about 74% is not the real thing. They took fish samples from 14 restaurants and all of them were substitutes. Red Snapper was some other fish with red dye, and White Tuna was Escolar, which is called the Ex-Lax of fish. There is no such species of fish called White Tuna. They also said that Escolar is banned in Japan because it is so dangerous. If anyone knows fish it has to be Japan.


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The escolar, Lepidocybium flavobrunneum, a species of fish in the family Gempylidae, is found in deep (200–885 meters (656–2,904 ft)) tropical and temperate waters around the world. It is also known as snake mackerel, walu walu (Hawaiian, also seen written waloo), and is sometimes fraudulently sold as "butterfish" or "white tuna",[1] a matter aggravated by potential health problems related to consumption of escolar.[2]

Health effects
Escolar's wax ester content can cause keriorrhea (Greek: flow of wax), gempylotoxism or gempylid fish poisoning.[4] Symptoms range from stomach cramps to rapid loose bowel movements, occurring 30 minutes to 36 hours following consumption.[5] This condition may also be referred to as steatorrhea.

Two known ways to reduce the likelihood of escolar-induced keriorrhea are to limit portions to six ounces (170 g) or less[6] and to consume portions close to the tail, which typically have a lower wax ester content. Reports conflict on whether deep skinning, freezing or grilling will reduce the likelihood of keriorrhea.

Mislabeling

Escolar can be mislabeled in both restaurants and at fish markets. In 2009 tuna samples from sushi restaurants in New York City and Denver were DNA tested. Five of nine restaurants serving fish labeled “white tuna,” “white tuna (albacore)” or “super white tuna” were actually serving escolar.[7] From 2010 to 2013, a study by Oceana, an Ocean preservation organization, tested over 114 samples of tuna, and found that 84% of the white tuna samples were actually escolar.[8]

Oceana claims that escolar has been mislabeled or otherwise confused with the following fish: Atlantic cod, oilfish (related to escolar but in a different genus), rudderfish, blue cod, black cod, king tuna, grouper, orange roughy, sea bass, gemfish, Chilean sea bass, albacore tuna, and white tuna.[9]

Oceana claims that this mislabeling, whether by ignorance or deceit, is more hazardous than the mislabeling of other fish due to the potential health effects of escolar.[10]

Regulation and banning

Italy and Japan have banned the sale of escolar due to its potential side effects. It has been banned for consumption in Japan since 1977, as the Japanese government considers it toxic.[11][12] In 1999, the Swedish and Danish national food administrations informed fish trade associations and fish importing companies about the problems escolar and related fish could cause if not prepared properly and issued recommendations.

In early 2007, after a public outcry, receiving consumer complaints about mislabeled fish and conducting an investigation,[13] the Hong Kong government's Centre for Food Safety recommended escolar not be used for catering purposes, advised clear labeling and identification of fish species before sale, and purchase of fish from reliable sources, and recommended consumers become aware of the possible health effects of consumption of escolar, oilfish, and related species. The Hong Kong government has established a working group composed of members of the academia, trade and consumer group to prepare guidelines for assisting the trade and consumers in identifying relevant species of fish.

In the United States, the FDA, after receiving complaints about diarrhea associated with escolar consumption, issued a bulletin recommending against import of the fish in the early 1990s. However, the FDA backed away from this recommendation and withdrew the bulletin several years later after deciding the fish was nontoxic and nonlethal. Currently, the FDA informally recommends, "Escolar should not be marketed in interstate commerce."[14]

In mid-2007, the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, after investigating cases of diarrhea caused by mislabeled fish, decided not to ban escolar or oilfish, but instead issued a fact sheet[15] noting the potential adverse effects of consumption and recommending consumers speak with their retailer, verify fish species and consume the fish in small portion sizes using preparation methods that reduce oil content.

Hawaiian State Representative James Tokioka introduced HB2669, a bill aimed at banning the catch, sale or possession of escolar.[16] HB2669 was deferred on February 1, 2010.[17]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escolar
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 26, 2017, 12:10:18 PM
If you really knew about half the stuff you eat, where it came from, how it was handled and preserved, you'd quit eating entirely. ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on May 26, 2017, 12:57:03 PM
I've eaten fish caught out of dozens of streams, lakes, rivers, and small ponds and never once had them inspected.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 26, 2017, 01:22:45 PM
If you really knew about half the stuff you eat, where it came from, how it was handled and preserved, you'd quit eating entirely. ;D

I've eaten fish caught out of dozens of streams, lakes, rivers, and small ponds and never once had them inspected.

I'm much more concerned with how it's handled and stored in the stores and restaurants!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 26, 2017, 04:26:06 PM
I just don't eat sushi.  When I was a young man I drove for a meat distributor in Cleveland, if I told you half the stuff that that supposedly 'prime' meat went through, you'd become a devout sushi eater...

I will say the very best fried chicken is KFC.  I hauled their chicken for years.  KFC has the most stringent quality program on the planet.  From the packing plant to the distribution center to the retail stores to your mouth.

You can take that to the bank.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 27, 2017, 10:38:24 AM
Another new hotel possibly heading for the N. Dixie / I-75 interchange.

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20170527/frenchtown-selling-land-for-another-hotel-development (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20170527/frenchtown-selling-land-for-another-hotel-development)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Newport-Bill on May 27, 2017, 11:35:32 AM
Must be banking on the need once the new hospital goes in because I don't think the two already there are sold out very often.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on May 27, 2017, 11:40:54 AM
No doubt about the current occupancy, Bill.

Almost has to be the anticipation of related to potential hospital business.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on May 28, 2017, 09:27:02 AM
I don't know but I hear regular complaints from people who work a La-Z-Boy and Tenneco that there aren't enough rooms for business travelers.   There's a lot of smaller places to that probably result in business travelers visiting town.   The National Park is drawing people too--not enough to fill several hotels, but probably the kind of people that don't want to stay in the dumps like Quality Inn and the now-closed Knights Inn.   Can't see the new hospital changing anything.   Its going to just be a drop off point to transfer people to Toledo Hospital.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 28, 2017, 03:08:38 PM
National Park...You mean the recycled paper mill site?  I don't see much of a draw with that unless you like mosquito's.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on May 28, 2017, 05:03:39 PM
I don't know but I hear regular complaints from people who work a La-Z-Boy and Tenneco that there aren't enough rooms for business travelers.   There's a lot of smaller places to that probably result in business travelers visiting town.   The National Park is drawing people too--not enough to fill several hotels, but probably the kind of people that don't want to stay in the dumps like Quality Inn and the now-closed Knights Inn.   Can't see the new hospital changing anything.   Its going to just be a drop off point to transfer people to Toledo Hospital.

I agree.   I doubt the new building changes much.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 28, 2017, 08:13:03 PM
Another new hotel possibly heading for the N. Dixie / I-75 interchange.

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20170527/frenchtown-selling-land-for-another-hotel-development[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20170527/frenchtown-selling-land-for-another-hotel-development[/url])


I wonder if it will be owned and operated by an Arab entity..  Most are today.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on May 28, 2017, 09:08:57 PM
You may want to fact check that Flip, it is Indian Americans who take the lions share of hotel owners and operators, not Arabs.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on May 30, 2017, 09:12:54 AM
Doesn't matter if you don't see the draw.   Go down there and look at the parking lot during the summer.   Its regularly fairly full of cars with license plates from all over the country and they are really just getting started on what they want to do with that whole area.   
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 30, 2017, 09:24:54 AM
National Park...You mean the recycled paper mill site?  I don't see much of a draw with that unless you like mosquito's.


I no longer 'see' a paper mill although I do 'remember' one being there.  Go look at many historical sites and you will see similar 'restoration' going on at the immediate site and in the area.

Here's a 'timely' article from the MonroeNews on some of the acquisition work going on to help the surrounding area 'un' develop!

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20170529/river-raisin-heritage-corridor-project-moves-one-step-ahead (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20170529/river-raisin-heritage-corridor-project-moves-one-step-ahead)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 30, 2017, 08:57:52 PM
You may want to fact check that Flip, it is Indian Americans who take the lions share of hotel owners and operators, not Arabs.

Not American Indians............ from India.....  same thing to me.  I'm equal opportunity...lol  Turban is a Turban...
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 04, 2017, 10:40:44 AM
We saw a white pickup with some equipment on it parked at the Jimmy Johns site at Jones and Monroe one day last week...  it was there all day.  Must have either been working inside or someone just parked it there because we never saw any signs of life around the building :-\ :-\ :-\

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on June 12, 2017, 08:50:45 AM
I hear its due to open by the end of the decade.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on June 12, 2017, 11:17:19 AM
I see the curbs and parking lot elevations are staked out now. Maybe they are planning on a parking lot some day.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 12, 2017, 03:22:27 PM
MCRC is setting a record for the longest repave of any RR crossing in history.  Ida West Road is still closed at the RR tracks...  Been 'working' on the crossing for 2 weeks now.  I say working because there is no one around 'working', just went that way.

Probably too hot so they are sitting in the air conditioned office focking off...On the taxpayers dime.

What a deal and what an inconvenience too.  As an example the RR did the Rauch road crossing (near Lewis in 4 days.  Stare to finish.

Talk about slapping the tube steak...
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on June 12, 2017, 04:23:40 PM
And speaking of the MCRC the weeds and grass so bad along roads it's unsafe at intersections.. There is a tree about 12' and bushy growing around the street sign at Smith and Douglas.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 12, 2017, 07:24:44 PM
I see the curbs and parking lot elevations are staked out now. Maybe they are planning on a parking lot some day.

They've also moved some equipment into the parking lot in the last week or so...  maybe the asphalt plant is selling all their output to the county for road repairs!!!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 12, 2017, 07:28:09 PM
MCRC is setting a record for the longest repave of any RR crossing in history.  Ida West Road is still closed at the RR tracks...  Been 'working' on the crossing for 2 weeks now.  I say working because there is no one around 'working', just went that way.

Probably too hot so they are sitting in the air conditioned office focking off...On the taxpayers dime.

What a deal and what an inconvenience too.  As an example the RR did the Rauch road crossing (near Lewis in 4 days.  Stare to finish.

Talk about slapping the tube steak...

Stopped to look this 'major' project over on our way home from A2 this afternoon.  Looks like they're all done except for putting down the asphalt.  Maybe they've used up their allotment this month for road repairs ;D ;D ;D

I'm sure the railroad doesn't care...  they can use the crossing and have less worry that some idiot that's talking or texting and driving will pull in front of their locomotive ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 12, 2017, 07:41:26 PM
And speaking of the MCRC the weeds and grass so bad along roads it's unsafe at intersections.. There is a tree about 12' and bushy growing around the street sign at Smith and Douglas.


You can try sending them a work request and see if it does any good.

I sent one in about a year ago right now and they still haven't done a thing on my request (a 'redo' of a job they did several years ago).  I called down and talked to the receptionist about 6 weeks after I sent in the request just to make sure they received it.  She told me there was no way to trace them so I asked her to have someone call me.  She indicated she would leave a request.  When I still hadn't heard anything several weeks later I called again and she even remembered me and indicated she knew that my request for someone to call me had been delivered to the appropriate person.  I explained that no one had ever called me and she explained that there was nothing she could do about that except leave a 2nd request...

a year later and I'm still waiting >:( >:( >:(

Maybe they're just waiting to finish Flip's rail crossing before they can call me back ;) ;) ;)

Anyway, if you want to give it a try here's the link:

http://www.mcrc-mi.org/servicerequest.html (http://www.mcrc-mi.org/servicerequest.html)

You would think that with all the miles and miles of driving that road commission staff drives in a year they could learn to spot and report things like trees obstructing the view of an approaching stop signs.  Actually seems like job security to me!

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 12, 2017, 08:12:40 PM
Almost forgot to post the pictures of the rail crossing.  Both are facing west.  You can see that the tracks are still going to be somewhat elevated above the road grade when they're done.  Definitely not going to be an 80 mph crossing!!!

(http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac260/bigreddog1/railcross01_zpsf1xkkz1e.jpg) (http://s905.photobucket.com/user/bigreddog1/media/railcross01_zpsf1xkkz1e.jpg.html)

And here's closer look.  All the ballast is in place...   looks to me like it just needs the asphalt put down.  We were there around 4 and no sign of anyone working :-\ :-\ :-\

(http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac260/bigreddog1/railcross02_zpsiphvvm9c.jpg) (http://s905.photobucket.com/user/bigreddog1/media/railcross02_zpsiphvvm9c.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on June 12, 2017, 09:51:50 PM
Don't the railroads maintain the rail crossings?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 13, 2017, 05:57:41 AM
Don't the railroads maintain the rail crossings?

Go back a few days in this thread and we discussed that a little.  Apparently the smaller railroads contract the work out.  Very clear under Michigan Statute (I posted some links) that the railroad is responsible for the work though.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 13, 2017, 07:44:48 AM
Around noon for me.  No sign of life at the crossing (like you), but then MCRC isn't all that 'lively' anyway.  A little more than blacktop is needed...  You need the grated rubber insert for between the rails, maybe thats the hold up, on backorder maybe?

That there is a major inconvenience for anyone in P'burg or Ida going west.

What a joke.  A joke in bad taste.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on June 13, 2017, 11:24:23 AM
You can try sending them a work request and see if it does any good.


Anyway, if you want to give it a try here's the link:

[url]http://www.mcrc-mi.org/servicerequest.html[/url] ([url]http://www.mcrc-mi.org/servicerequest.html[/url])

You would think that with all the miles and miles of driving that road commission staff drives in a year they could learn to spot and report things like trees obstructing the view of an approaching stop signs.  Actually seems like job security to me!




And its not a "defense" in the eyes of the court system - if you were involved in an accident because of that blocked vision and got a ticket.     

Dash cams may change that in the future - although you'd have to go to full court as the Magistrate can't use that.   
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on June 13, 2017, 04:17:32 PM
And its not a "defense" in the eyes of the court system - if you were involved in an accident because of that blocked vision and got a ticket.     

Dash cams may change that in the future - although you'd have to go to full court as the Magistrate can't use that.

I am pretty sure the Magistrate exists to uphold whatever spews out of the Deputies mouth.

They are mostly retired Deputies after all.

Going before a magistrate is a waste of time.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 14, 2017, 10:05:48 AM
Around noon for me.  No sign of life at the crossing (like you), but then MCRC isn't all that 'lively' anyway.  A little more than blacktop is needed...  You need the grated rubber insert for between the rails, maybe thats the hold up, on backorder maybe?

That there is a major inconvenience for anyone in P'burg or Ida going west.

What a joke.  A joke in bad taste.

'IF' they're actually going to upgrade to a full rubber crossing then that is definitely missing and could be the holdup.  However, I doubt they're going to be upgrading to rubber at that crossing just from looking at the approaches.  Rubber crossings typically also have long 'flat' approaches so they can be crosses at a higher speed and you can see from my photo that they haven't done anything 'yet' with the approaches.  I suppose it wouldn't be beyond belief that they'll put in a rubber crossing and then smooth out the approaches the next time they resurface the road.

Here's the link to a pretty interesting study on the MDOT website and it discusses in depth the typical uses of materials for rail crossings in Michigan.  It mentions that the rubber crossings are typically used at crossings with 10,000 or more vehicles a day...   not sure how long it will be before that crossing meets that criteria :-\ :-\ :-\

https://www.michigan.gov/documents/mdot/RC1606B_470324_7.pdf (https://www.michigan.gov/documents/mdot/RC1606B_470324_7.pdf)

We were there (getting off 23 and just looked down that way) yesterday about 11 and didn't see a single worker at the crossing. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 14, 2017, 12:52:22 PM
Drove by Jimmy Johns new site just now and it looks like they're working on the parking lot.  They were sitting on the front porch eating lunch...  I wonder if they ordered subs from the other JJs?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on June 14, 2017, 04:23:12 PM
Prob Subways
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on June 14, 2017, 04:39:29 PM
Yesterday there were so many trucks there it looked like they would be in each others way of getting anything done at all. Crazy scheduling
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: excelsior on June 14, 2017, 09:23:50 PM



Looks like the construction of the Love’s truck stop near the intersection of Nadeau Road and I-75 will be starting soon:



(http://monroetalks.com/forum/gallery/5662_14_06_17_9_18_19.png)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 15, 2017, 08:50:25 AM
Hopefully when they're done it will relieve some of the traffic congestion in front of the Pilot station on the other side of the freeway.  I remember an old station of some sort on that piece of property but they tore it down years ago.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 15, 2017, 09:04:50 AM
Yesterday there were so many trucks there it looked like they would be in each others way of getting anything done at all. Crazy scheduling

They must all show up on the same day to work!!!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on June 15, 2017, 12:00:12 PM
It didn't look like a whole lot of progress for as many trucks as was there.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Newport-Bill on June 15, 2017, 02:39:51 PM
Hopefully when they're done it will relieve some of the traffic congestion in front of the Pilot station on the other side of the freeway.  I remember an old station of some sort on that piece of property but they tore it down years ago.

Was an old Marathon I believe. 

Saw all the equipment yesterday as well on my way to Northside.  I believe it will just make the traffic worse than it already is as even more trucks will exit there but now on both sides of the freeway.  It is already an issue as you say with the Pilot and the steel place.  The truckers have no issue pulling out in front of you out of the lots despite not having the right-of-way.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on June 15, 2017, 06:11:14 PM
Was an old Marathon I believe. 

Saw all the equipment yesterday as well on my way to Northside.  I believe it will just make the traffic worse than it already is as even more trucks will exit there but now on both sides of the freeway.  It is already an issue as you say with the Pilot and the steel place.  The truckers have no issue pulling out in front of you out of the lots despite not having the right-of-way.

Might makes right?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 15, 2017, 06:11:49 PM
It didn't look like a whole lot of progress for as many trucks as was there.

I keep waiting for them to do something with the 'temporary' electric service line they have strung across right where they're working!

Was an old Marathon I believe. 

Saw all the equipment yesterday as well on my way to Northside.  I believe it will just make the traffic worse than it already is as even more trucks will exit there but now on both sides of the freeway.  It is already an issue as you say with the Pilot and the steel place.  The truckers have no issue pulling out in front of you out of the lots despite not having the right-of-way.

My thoughts were that most of the northbound trucks will go to the new Love's and won't be crossing over to get into the Pilot station and that will help with the traffic on the west side of the interchange.  Maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part.  Time will tell I guess.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 15, 2017, 10:30:57 PM
The truck stops and the whores can stay on that side of town.  keep 'em.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 16, 2017, 08:25:06 AM
The truck stops and the whores can stay on that side of town.  keep 'em.

Maybe it's a truck stop buying the parcel next to the road commission property and the unfinished rail crossing over by you!!!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 16, 2017, 05:19:31 PM
Maybe it's a truck stop buying the parcel next to the road commission property and the unfinished rail crossing over by you!!!

Nope.  No adult bookstore either.  Kind of on hold.  I think MCRC is asking way too much for it.  Gotta make a profit after all.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 16, 2017, 05:20:49 PM
We already have the pickle park on 23 northbound.  That is where the Toledo 'angels of the night' hang out.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 17, 2017, 09:36:31 AM
We already have the pickle park on 23 northbound.  That is where the Toledo 'angels of the night' hang out.

I forget that is there.  If we're going north on 23 we usually get on and off at Ida West and if we're going south it's usually at M-151 so not much occasion to drive that stretch of 23.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on June 19, 2017, 09:03:53 AM
Maybe it's a truck stop buying the parcel next to the road commission property and the unfinished rail crossing over by you!!!
LOL   too far north for a fireworks store...   maybe a strip club? 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 19, 2017, 09:06:26 AM
LOL   too far north for a fireworks store...   maybe a strip club?

That would be a great location for a strip club...

they could open for lunch and have some of the road commission crews there every day ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 19, 2017, 09:10:55 AM
We were heading north on Telegraph last week and I just caught a glimpse  of a sign (I was driving) at the restaurant of many names just south of the old LaZBoy headquarters building...   I didn't catch much of what was on the sign but I did notice the ominous 'Coming Soon' phrase :o :o :o

I'll try to remember to pull in and take a closer look at the sign if I get up that way again in the next few days!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on June 19, 2017, 09:11:38 AM
It's advertising a strip mall.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 19, 2017, 09:36:16 AM
It's advertising a strip mall.

Does that mean there is a potential buyer for the LaZBoy parcel then?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on June 19, 2017, 11:36:15 AM
No but if Lazy boy ever sells to a real developer that old restaurant parcel immediately jumps in value
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on June 19, 2017, 07:41:32 PM
No but if Lazy boy ever sells to a real developer that old restaurant parcel immediately jumps in value

The owner is probably banking on a "big box" store buying the La Z Boy site.

Too bad brick and mortar stores are going down the drain at the moment.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on June 19, 2017, 08:04:49 PM
Theres only so many big box names around and we have all of them except Home Depot and Mennards maybe Super Target
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on June 19, 2017, 08:37:44 PM
Theres only so many big box names around and we have all of them except Home Depot and Mennards maybe Super Target

Maybe Amazon would like to open a Whole Foods?

Shoot - what am I thinking?

This is a "Wal Mart" kind of town.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on June 20, 2017, 11:03:11 AM
No but if Lazy boy ever sells to a real developer that old restaurant parcel immediately jumps in value
Many an owner has held on in hopes of that...     Look at the car wash on Telegraph

But then again some people need the tax write offs! 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on September 20, 2017, 11:14:54 AM
I saw a FB post explaining why it's taking forever to complete the Jimmy Johns on S. Monroe/Jones

The former owners said the new owners had paid up front and a contractor skated...  so they are stressed financially and thus no movement.   

I guess they didn't have much business experience prior! 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on September 20, 2017, 06:39:11 PM
Not the first contractor to pull that stunt!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on September 20, 2017, 10:15:48 PM
And it's not always contractors screwing people. A good friend of mine has a relative that was residential/commercial painter. He landed a contract to paint a substantial part of the Jeep factory a few years ago.  Chrysler jacked him around so bad paying him and disputing some jobs that he couldn't afford to run his business and pay his employees.  Had to file bankruptcy. Lost his family and then killed himself..
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on September 21, 2017, 07:58:25 AM
I've said for years now that the automotive industry has changed so much to the point that small guys could no longer do business with them.  They don't care about cash flow of their suppliers and service contractors and that can just wipe out a small business.

Sad story blue.......that's too bad.

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on September 21, 2017, 08:51:13 AM
curious if its a case of bad negotiating contracts to get that "big" job?

Contract and contract law is something that it seem many small businesses don't pay attention to

It has created a whole sub industry -  someone else takes those cash flow "billing invoices" and the headaches - for a fee :)   
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on September 21, 2017, 11:22:58 AM
I saw a FB post explaining why it's taking forever to complete the Jimmy Johns on S. Monroe/Jones

The former owners said the new owners had paid up front and a contractor skated...  so they are stressed financially and thus no movement.   

I guess they didn't have much business experience prior!

Licensed contractors in Michigan pay a fee into a 'slush fund' (or at least they used to) so victims have a place to recover some funds in those cases.  That may only be for residential situations though.  Typically you would expect a commercial property owner to be a little less naive than to 'pay first' :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on September 21, 2017, 08:57:03 PM
I've said for years now that the automotive industry has changed so much to the point that small guys could no longer do business with them.  They don't care about cash flow of their suppliers and service contractors and that can just wipe out a small business.

Sad story blue.......that's too bad.

Aint that the truth!

It is a sad story - and not so unique I'm afraid - at least how small vendors get treated.

There is a reason most won't do a thing without a PO in hand.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on September 30, 2017, 10:06:35 AM
The exterior of the JJ's is getting trimmed out with awnings and lettering on the windows.  Other than the parking lot still not being paved it looks like it's about ready to open.  They better keep moving or at some point they're not going to be able to buy asphalt.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 30, 2017, 03:23:07 PM
The exterior of the JJ's is getting trimmed out with awnings and lettering on the windows.  Other than the parking lot still not being paved it looks like it's about ready to open.  They better keep moving or at some point they're not going to be able to buy asphalt.

Park in the dirt.  Everybody does out this way, anyway.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 04, 2017, 11:06:35 AM
Park in the dirt.  Everybody does out this way, anyway.

But not in the city.  Pretty sure I've heard people complain about getting tickets or at least warnings for parking their vehicle on their lawn in the city.  Has to be concrete or pavement or park it in the street!!!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 05, 2017, 09:54:33 AM
The Monroe Grill on Telegraph across from the SOS office is getting ready to open an addition and have changed their name to the Monroe Bar & Grill.  They've added the new sign on the outside of the building in the last few days.  I had seen the building permit posted in the front window of the suite adjacent to the current restaurant.  I'm guessing they will eventually open the wall from the current restaurant but there is already an existing entrance/exit door. 


Still no paving in the parking lot at Jimmy Johns :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: rwwjr on October 05, 2017, 07:16:28 PM
Pouring curbing at JJ today.  Looks like getting ready to pave lot!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 05, 2017, 08:32:53 PM
Pouring curbing at JJ today.  Looks like getting ready to pave lot!

They can probably move pretty fast now...

get the doors open and start making some strokes on the payments!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on October 06, 2017, 12:47:14 AM
MOst of the curbing has been poured for weeks. I doubt an effort to pour more curbs signals a hasty finish.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on October 06, 2017, 09:01:13 AM
Weeks...they poured most of it last YEAR.  I remember thinking last year if they don't get moving they are going to have trouble getting asphalt.   Now they are in the same spot!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 06, 2017, 09:10:50 AM
I've never even gone onto the parcel (well, not since it was a Shell station many, many years ago) but I'm thinking maybe that curb work has been there so long that maybe some of it had been damaged so what we are seeing are some repairs.  There have been a lot of trucks and pieces of equipment in there working since the curbs were poured so it would be hard to imagine someone hasn't hit it on a few occasions.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 06, 2017, 08:31:30 PM
We drove by JJs this afternoon and there are 4 or 5 pieces of the 'new' curb with fresh cut marks on it laying along Jones Ave.  And at the Monroe Street entrance is a fresh curbed Y...   You can only enter from northbound Monroe and can only exit from JJs by going north on Monroe Street.  Since they're on a corner lot they have to exit onto Jones and then make a left turn onto southbound Monroe street to go south and if you're approaching from the north you have to use the entrance from Jones.  Kind of like the layout at Starbucks off Telegraph.  Those are probably new guidelines from MDOT since both are on state highways.

Also saw new curbs going in at the new bar off Hull Road on Lake Francis!  Maybe the same company did both sets of curbs while they were in town.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 06, 2017, 08:37:52 PM
The former Herkimer Radio building is getting a 2nd story addition and new roofline on the front entrance.  Looks like some fancy stonework going on too.

No signs up yet...   anyone heard what's going in there? 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on October 06, 2017, 09:40:01 PM
Looks like Sells Equipment went for a zoning change there recently.   Page 3.  http://www.frenchtowntownship.org/admin/files/minutes%20planning%20commission/7.20.17%20PC%20Meeting.pdf (http://www.frenchtowntownship.org/admin/files/minutes%20planning%20commission/7.20.17%20PC%20Meeting.pdf)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on October 07, 2017, 08:14:04 AM
It appears Jimmy Johns is going with concrete instead of Asphalt... as they had framing done around the building as well... 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 07, 2017, 08:16:22 AM
Looks like Sells Equipment went for a zoning change there recently.   Page 3.  [url]http://www.frenchtowntownship.org/admin/files/minutes%20planning%20commission/7.20.17%20PC%20Meeting.pdf[/url] ([url]http://www.frenchtowntownship.org/admin/files/minutes%20planning%20commission/7.20.17%20PC%20Meeting.pdf[/url])


I don't know Sells real well but have gone to their present (Allen Road) location a few times for some parts. 

http://www.sellsequipment.com/ (http://www.sellsequipment.com/)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on October 07, 2017, 09:14:58 AM
I don't know Sells real well but have gone to their present (Allen Road) location a few times for some parts. 

[url]http://www.sellsequipment.com/[/url] ([url]http://www.sellsequipment.com/[/url])

Years ago went to their original place on Telegraph - they were a Ford Tractor dealer at the time
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 07, 2017, 12:47:32 PM
They acquired J&R on Dixie after J&R lost their Ford / New Holland franchise.  I know the Wagonkenects personally.

New Holland is no longer affiliated with Ford either and NH, just like JD consolidated their franchises into large multi-outlet single owned businesses.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on October 09, 2017, 09:26:23 AM
Sells is probably the closest Exmark dealer to Monroe.   I would personally be glad to see them selling that line here.  I'm surprised they aren't already carrying it at J&R?   Maybe I'm misunderstanding--did they buy J&R or J&R's New Holland franchise?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 09, 2017, 09:39:07 AM
Sells is probably the closest Exmark dealer to Monroe.   I would personally be glad to see them selling that line here.  I'm surprised they aren't already carrying it at J&R?   Maybe I'm misunderstanding--did they buy J&R or J&R's New Holland franchise?

They bought J&R, not the franchise.  J&R lost the franchise because CNH pulled it.  The closest CNH franchised dealer is now in Hudson, Burnips, which is a multi-store dealership.  J&R can still order and sell CNH parts, but not machines.  Why they now carry Kioti tractors.

I find zero turn mowers to be pretty generic.  All do the same thing, cut grass.  All share the same components, Hydro Gear trans axles, Briggs, Kohler, Kawasaki or Honda motors (if gas), Kubota or JD if diesel.  Really, the only major difference is deck design, the good ones have a fabricated (welded) steel deck, the less expensive ones have a deep drawn stamped steel deck.  Good ones have grease fittings, cheap ones have sealed bearings.

Great Plains has a patent on their suspension and Bad Boy copied it with discrete changes.  Zero turn's are nice for smooth lawns but will beat you to death on a bumpy lawn because you sit almost directly over the rear axle so the shock is transmitted directly into your tailbone.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 09, 2017, 09:50:07 AM
They bought J&R, not the franchise.  J&R lost the franchise because CNH pulled it.  The closest CNH franchised dealer is now in Hudson, Burnips, which is a multi-store dealership.  J&R can still order and sell CNH parts, but not machines.  Why they now carry Kioti tractors.

I find zero turn mowers to be pretty generic.  All do the same thing, cut grass.  All share the same components, Hydro Gear trans axles, Briggs, Kohler, Kawasaki or Honda motors (if gas), Kubota or JD if diesel.  Really, the only major difference is deck design, the good ones have a fabricated (welded) steel deck, the less expensive ones have a deep drawn stamped steel deck.  Good ones have grease fittings, cheap ones have sealed bearings.

Great Plains has a patent on their suspension and Bad Boy copied it with discrete changes.  Zero turn's are nice for smooth lawns but will beat you to death on a bumpy lawn because you sit almost directly over the rear axle so the shock is transmitted directly into your tailbone.

Carleton Farm Supply is in a similar situation.  They can still sell Case IH parts but no more big red machines or equipment. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 09, 2017, 09:57:10 AM
So, any speculation if Sells will keep J&R on S. Dixie or move everything to the N. Telegraph location? 

They were one of the first local places I did business with when we moved down here.  I bought a very, very nice used (but well maintained) Gilson from them.  I actually still have it but it's sitting in the barn collecting dust until I get around to restoring it. 

Also bought an oversized Cub cadet (Cub LoBoy 154) from them.  Still got that one too.  I was in there not long ago and bought some tie rod ends for one of my smaller Cub Cadets.  Tie rod ends are pretty much universal and don't care what color paint is on the tractor they're going on. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on October 09, 2017, 10:40:32 AM
So, any speculation if Sells will keep J&R on S. Dixie or move everything to the N. Telegraph location? 

They were one of the first local places I did business with when we moved down here.  I bought a very, very nice used (but well maintained) Gilson from them.  I actually still have it but it's sitting in the barn collecting dust until I get around to restoring it. 

Also bought an oversized Cub cadet (Cub LoBoy 154) from them.  Still got that one too.  I was in there not long ago and bought some tie rod ends for one of my smaller Cub Cadets.  Tie rod ends are pretty much universal and don't care what color paint is on the tractor they're going on. 

I was curious as well - not sure the size of the new location but the move north attraction seems to be growing - to the detriment of LaSalle/Monroe Twps      -  and those who love congested traffic! 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on October 09, 2017, 12:49:25 PM
I find zero turn mowers to be pretty generic. 

Zero turns yes, but the walk behind machines are what I was thinking of.   Still a lot of commodity parts but how they combine them tends to be more unique there.   
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 09, 2017, 01:53:16 PM
Carleton Farm Supply is in a similar situation.  They can still sell Case IH parts but no more big red machines or equipment.

Keith does very well with Kubota and Kubota has been slowly expanding into the large Ag market.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 09, 2017, 01:56:07 PM
I was curious as well - not sure the size of the new location but the move north attraction seems to be growing - to the detriment of LaSalle/Monroe Twps      -  and those who love congested traffic!

I suspect they will keep the Dixie location.  The building is old but paid for and there is a huge storage lot out back.  I'm pretty good friends with Dave Wagonconnekt (Parts manager) and he's never said anything one way or another.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on October 09, 2017, 08:55:00 PM
I suspect they will keep the Dixie location.  The building is old but paid for and there is a huge storage lot out back.  I'm pretty good friends with Dave Wagonconnekt (Parts manager) and he's never said anything one way or another.
I'm picking up my mower tomorrow - Plastic gas tank issue/warranty work -  Its a zero turn hustler brand -
Cut my mowing time down 1/2 hour! 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 18, 2017, 09:56:38 AM
Lot's of activity around JJ's new location the last couple of days.  Some big box trucks making deliveries although I couldn't tell exactly what they were delivering. 

No more fresh concrete though.  They finished the pad closest to Monroe Street and haven't done anything else.  Maybe they're going to put down asphalt on the rest of the lot :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on October 27, 2017, 02:19:17 PM
The former party store at Lewis and Samaria/"151" is getting some attention as there is a giant dumpster out front -   
Curious to see what is going in next.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 27, 2017, 06:45:24 PM
The former party store at Lewis and Samaria/"151" is getting some attention as there is a giant dumpster out front -   
Curious to see what is going in next.

I've seen activity there before and then nothing happen for a long time.

I guess we'll just have to wait for the 'coming soon' sign :) :) :)

The little restaurant on the diagonal corner should move over there.  Looks like it would be a larger building and the location across the corner has limited parking. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 29, 2017, 07:47:00 PM

Not much going on at the former outlet center per the developer.

Monroe's Original is preparing to open in the former Wendy's by the end of the year or early next year. 


http://www.monroenews.com/news/20171029/plans-to-develop-former-horizon-outlet-center-are-dormant (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20171029/plans-to-develop-former-horizon-outlet-center-are-dormant)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on October 29, 2017, 11:06:30 PM
They bought the golf course for $300.000  ?? and now have it listed for $2.5 million ??
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 30, 2017, 07:05:13 AM
They bought the golf course for $300.000  ?? and now have it listed for $2.5 million ??
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Nothing like a 'quick' profit although it's not looking so quick! 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on October 30, 2017, 10:00:05 AM
That Samaria and Lewis party store--someone put a bunch of work into the building.   The listing for the recent auction it looked a lot different (better) inside vs when it was previously open.   Guessing that owner must have run out of money before opening. 

No surprise on the outlet property.  As bad as it looks on the outside, I'd guess there are serious issues with roofs and building systems at this point.  Ultimately I'd bet the township ends up stuck with it for back taxes and will have to remediate the site.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Newport-Bill on October 30, 2017, 10:06:45 AM
Not much going on at the former outlet center per the developer.

Monroe's Original is preparing to open in the former Wendy's by the end of the year or early next year. 


Unfortunately for them its all about location, location, location and with nothing else there to get off the expressway for I don't see much business for them.  Hope I am wrong!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on October 30, 2017, 10:10:22 AM
Happened by the party store on Lewis Sat.  The outside looks refurbished and maybe new windows too.
I wouldn't think it's a good location for a party store.  Maybe they are turning it into a residential unit.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 30, 2017, 01:50:57 PM
Happened by the party store on Lewis Sat.  The outside looks refurbished and maybe new windows too.
I wouldn't think it's a good location for a party store.  Maybe they are turning it into a residential unit.


The following is for general discussion and is not to be considered as expert 'advice'!

Any property that is on a main highway or a former main highway and especially if it is a corner property you risk the potential that it was a former 'gas station'.  Back in the good old days the underground storage tanks were just made of metal (thin metal at that) and they often leaked.  And most of those old gas stations were often 'full service' stations so they did engine repairs and other services like changing engine oil.  It was an added cost for the the station operator to get the oil properly disposed of so they would take it out back and dump it.  I've seen that literally hundreds of times across the state. 

Anyway, many of these stations became contaminated one way or another and the state put them on a list.  They had to name the list so they referenced the underground storage tanks.  Of course they needed a catchy acronym to make people pay attention to the list so they named it LUST (leaking underground storage tanks) even though in 'some' cases there were no underground tanks even involved!

Here's someone's attempt at showing the active lust sites on a Google map.  I can tell by looking at sites I'm familiar with (including the former party store under discussion) that the points on the map aren't precise OR it's a case where somehow the adjacent property became contaminated.  It may be 'drift' from the fuel tank leaking or maybe the farmer next door got busted dumping the waste oil from his operation.  At any rate, here is a map showing somewhat active active LUST sites in Michigan and this party store appears on the list. 

Lots of issues with borrowing money and anyone entering into the chain of title possibly being liable for damages someone may bring against the current owner or anyone in the prior chain of title.  It's potentially long and costly to be involved with one of these properties which is why you see some former gas station sites for sale for years and years and years.  Potential buyers see a 'great deal' and then find out no lender will lend to them which makes them realize they don't want to put their own money or name on the title either.  Setting up a throw away name (corporation or LLC) is one way to 'own' it indirectly but that still doesn't get you a loan. 

This is a very brief summary of the overall scenario and may not even apply to this particular property although the map does seem to indicate that it does.  Just scroll the map around Monroe or Milan or Dundee and up and down Telegraph and the Dixie and you'll see a big concentration of dots.  Drive by those and you'll often see very faded out 'for sale' signs on the same properties.  In all reality if the property owner 'gave' you the property it would be a bad deal.  In many cases municipalities won't even foreclose on property taxes to avoid becoming the 'deep pocket' new owner!  If you're ever contemplating buying one of these properties you need to get some expert advice and proceed with great care and 'due diligence'!

http://www.circleofblue.org/LUST.html (http://www.circleofblue.org/LUST.html)


Here's some reading direct from the state:

http://www.michigan.gov/deq/0,4561,7-135-3311_4109_4215---,00.html (http://www.michigan.gov/deq/0,4561,7-135-3311_4109_4215---,00.html)

For lots more reading just Google 'Michigan LUST'
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on October 30, 2017, 04:50:52 PM
I'm guessing at one time the location we are talking about at the corner of Lewis and Samaria was a gas station..Lewis was the old US 23 and Samaria is state route 151. Seems like a good place for a gas station. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 30, 2017, 08:21:11 PM
I'm guessing at one time the location we are talking about at the corner of Lewis and Samaria was a gas station..Lewis was the old US 23 and Samaria is state route 151. Seems like a good place for a gas station.

At one time (many years ago) I was a very regular customer there. 

They had an absolutely drop dead well built and very personable young gal that worked evenings there during that time.  I remember going in there one night when it was 'fish fly' season and there were as many fish flies inside as there were outside...   it was bad to say the least.  Her blonde hair glistened and really seemed to attract the fish flies.  She was walking around with a newspaper kind of wrapped around her head and trying to swat them.  The next time I went in there she was gone and I've never seen her since (that I'm aware of and I don't think I would forget that one)!

Anyway, if you go to the map link and click on the button where the LUST sites are it will give you the details of the leak.

For that site it's:

Quote
Site Name: Sam's Party Mart

Gasoline,Gasoline,Gasoline released on Feb 27 2007

Facility Information
    Sam's Party Mart
    10606 Lewis Ave
    Temperance, MI 48182
    Monroe County

I don't remember them selling gas there at the time but maybe they did.  I suppose it could have been a leak discovered at that time that had leaked at a prior time. 

Could have been a vehicle that leaked fuel on the site too...  lots of possibilities.  I remember Monroetown VFD spilled a can of gasoline at one time at the old station next to the quarry.  They did their civic duty and reported it and the cleanup ran well into 6 figures.  Part of it is the  gas only had to run a few feet and then got into the cracks in all the limestone and it was easy for it to move a long distance.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 30, 2017, 08:44:32 PM
While I was on the LUST site (not what you're thinking fuzz ;) ;) ;) ) I pulled up the details on some other sites here in the Monroe area.  I suppose I'll get beat up again by tpp for minding other peoples' business...   well, it's on a state website so I guess it falls under 'public info' so tpp can go pee up that rope!!!

Last summer we followed the repurposing of the 'old' Friendly Ford building just south of McDonald's on S. Monroe street.

Quote
Site Name: Harry May Chevrolet

Unknown released on May 28 2003

Facility Information
    Harry May Chevrolet
    881 S Monroe St
    Monroe, MI 99999
    Monroe County

I knew that Harry May had been there before a big fire but that was before we moved here before 2003 and I know it was not so friendly Ford then!  That's got to be a more recent discovery to an old leak!

On the 'opening soon' Jimmy John's site is this info:

Quote
Site Name: Clark Service Station #2139

released on Feb 9 1989

Facility Information
    Clark Service Station #2139
    955 S Monroe St
    Monroe, MI 48161-1442
    Monroe County

I do remember buying Shell gas (with tom cat pee additive) there in the late 80s.  I had an '84 Grand Marquis that for whatever reason really ran good on Shell. 

Quote
Site Name: Clark Station- S. Monroe

released on Dec 17 1988

Facility Information
    Way Station
    629 S Monroe St
    Monroe, MI 48161-1440
    Monroe County

At the current Way station site.  I've heard that there was a pretty big spill there and that adjacent properties are contaminated too although I don't have any first hand knowledge of that.

Quote
Site Name: Joe Ciravolo

Unknown released on Dec 16 1999

Facility Information
    Joe Ciravolo
    405 S Monroe St
    Monroe, MI 48161-2221
    Monroe County

Ever wonder why Joe has never sold the old (very authentic) Standard Service site...

maybe he can't!"


Quote
Site Name: Monroe County Road Commission

Diesel,Diesel,Gasoline released on May 4 2011

Facility Information
    Monroe County Road Commission
    840 S Telegraph Rd
    Monroe, MI 48161-4056
    Monroe County

I'd never heard about this one but not surprising...

I guess we're sort of 'all' on the hook for that one!!!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on October 30, 2017, 09:43:44 PM
Sam, the guy that owned the Party store had 3 boys that I recall. One I  know for sure is an emergency room physician at Toledo hospital..
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 30, 2017, 10:08:12 PM
I was thinking one of the boys was an attorney from Temperance.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on October 31, 2017, 09:29:17 AM
Finos is at the address listed for Harry May which lines up with what I thought I'd heard--they were north of Jones.   That was way before my time.   I only remember that being Burger King (which also burned.)

I've seen a picture of Sam's when it was a gas station (Gulf I think.)   I think someone else owned it after Sam.   It was in terrible shape before it closed.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 31, 2017, 09:33:52 AM
Finos is at the address listed for Harry May which lines up with what I thought I'd heard--they were north of Jones.   That was way before my time.   I only remember that being Burger King (which also burned.)

I've seen a picture of Sam's when it was a gas station (Gulf I think.)   I think someone else owned it after Sam.   It was in terrible shape before it closed.

I was using the map last night and looking around the area I grew up in and found 'dot' that was a couple of miles from where it belonged so not surprising it might show up a couple of hundred feet off in some.

Good eyes!!!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: nails on October 31, 2017, 10:21:25 AM

Hey BRD ... you posted an old photo about a year and a half ago of the old Sam’s store. You didn’t call it Sams, but wondered if anyone recognized it. I said it looked like Sams. I remember there was a picture of a p/u truck in the parking lot. I can’t remember if it showed gas pumps or not, but it may have.

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 31, 2017, 10:47:55 AM
Hey BRD ... you posted an old photo about a year and a half ago of the old Sam’s store. You didn’t call it Sams, but wondered if anyone recognized it. I said it looked like Sams. I remember there was a picture of a p/u truck in the parking lot. I can’t remember if it showed gas pumps or not, but it may have.

Must have been over in the history thread!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on October 31, 2017, 10:54:50 AM
Hey BRD ... you posted an old photo about a year and a half ago of the old Sam’s store. You didn’t call it Sams, but wondered if anyone recognized it. I said it looked like Sams. I remember there was a picture of a p/u truck in the parking lot. I can’t remember if it showed gas pumps or not, but it may have.


Must have been over in the history thread!



Ok, I found the post:  http://monroetalks.com/forum/index.php?topic=30176.msg679853#msg679853 (http://monroetalks.com/forum/index.php?topic=30176.msg679853#msg679853)

Unfortunately the link to the the MonroeNews smug mug photo isn't working (maybe it will fix itself at some point).  I'll check out their smugmug link and try to find an active link.

https://monroenews.smugmug.com/PICTURES-OF-THE-PAST/i-Z7rFtbr/A (https://monroenews.smugmug.com/PICTURES-OF-THE-PAST/i-Z7rFtbr/A)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 02, 2017, 09:16:05 PM
Still someone at the new Jimmy John's working every day...   I wonder where they go for lunch?

Still just the one panel of concrete poured at the front drive entrance and no sign of asphalt or anything for the remainder of the parking lot.

Maybe they're going to start with Drone Delivery...

now that would be Freaky Fast 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 09, 2017, 09:22:42 AM
We drove by JJ's last night and it looks like the dine in area is all set and ready to go.  I could see lamps over tables and the counter in the background.  However, the drive is still dirt or gravel other than the approaches off the streets. 

Kind of like 'all dressed up' and no way to get there :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: nails on November 09, 2017, 10:46:29 AM
I've only gone to JJ a time or two. I like my subs heated. For some reason, they never offered that.

Penn Station is a great sub shop. Couple stores in Toledo.

http://www.penn-station.com/index.php (http://www.penn-station.com/index.php)

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on November 09, 2017, 11:12:45 AM
Yeah,  I like the Penn Station.  It's on Monroe st not far north from the FP Mall.   
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Newport-Bill on November 09, 2017, 11:42:12 AM
I have not personally tried them but my Dad, who is a very picky sub eater, likes the Firehouse Subs.

I used to be a fan of Macino's when they were in the Big Lots plaza but since they moved a couple of times I have not had them recently.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 09, 2017, 11:51:54 AM
I have to recommend Dundee Coney Island on Waterstradt  (across from Cabelas).  Great food, cheap.  Not much atmosphere (typical Coney Island) but an expansive menu and they do real onion rings too.

Been frequenting it quite a bit lately.  Gut buster on a budget.

They are on Groupon too.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 09, 2017, 11:53:42 AM
There is a Jimmy Johns in Dundee (by McDees on 50).  Never stopped but been past it a number of times.  Kind of partial to Subway.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Newport-Bill on November 09, 2017, 02:58:27 PM
I have found Subway to vary by franchisee so when you find a good location stick with it.  When I worked at Ford a new one opened in Dearborn lose to WHQ and so I tried the new location.  When it came to the veggies I asked for my usual stuff on it and when I asked for onion the lady picked up 2 pieces and stretched them out across the sandwich like a shoe string.  I thought to myself seriously!  So I asked for a couple more.  Then I said I want LOTS of yellow peppers.  She puts 5 on it.  I said can you add more?  She adds 3. I said more?  She gives me a disturbing look, grabs a handful and adds them 1 by 1 saying "tell me when you have enough."  Never went back to that shop.

Now if you are ever in Dearborn I highly recommend Ricky's Sub Shop on Greenfield just north of Paul.  Hand made on the flat top grill.  So good!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on November 09, 2017, 04:14:42 PM
Macino's grinders are awesome...Subway i like and for some reason I don't care for Firehouse.  i've tried it a couple of times and that's probaby it for me..
Newport_Bill,  Have you ever tried the approach at Subway that you want one that looks just like the one on TV.  They just smile..
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Newport-Bill on November 09, 2017, 10:00:51 PM

Newport_Bill,  Have you ever tried the approach at Subway that you want one that looks just like the one on TV.  They just smile..

I  say that all the time about Arby's, Burger King, McDonald's, etc.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on November 10, 2017, 05:00:36 PM
I  say that all the time about Arby's, Burger King, McDonald's, etc.

Go to McDonalds in Japan.

You don't even have to ask.

Every item looks just like the one in the ad.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 11, 2017, 09:20:00 AM
I see the KFC on S. Dixie is in the process of renovating their building but they're keeping the drive-thru open while they work.

Makes me think maybe I could get a 3 piece dinner with a side of drywall mud 'to go' ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on November 11, 2017, 09:43:54 AM
Visited a "new" place for me -     the Mason Jar     Consear and Secor.      Bar type atmosphere but the menu selection was fancier than bar food - and the food and quality was very good!    (had the "reuben" sandwich - can't recall their name)   and Seared Ahi Tunu for a shared appetizer was very interesting find!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on November 11, 2017, 09:48:58 AM
Professor,  I agree with you 100%.  I went for the first time a few weeks ago and also had the reuben type sand. it might have been called a Boston something or other.  It was awesome.  Others had burgers that looked really good too.  The little bucket of seasoned fries were pretty darn good too..
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on November 11, 2017, 09:59:22 AM
Professor,  I agree with you 100%.  I went for the first time a few weeks ago and also had the reuben type sand. it might have been called a Boston something or other.  It was awesome.  Others had burgers that looked really good too.  The little bucket of seasoned fries were pretty darn good too..
yep had the same I knew boston was in the name, - forgot about the seasoned fries - not over seasoned!  just right. 

Will try the flatbread pizza next visit -
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 11, 2017, 10:14:40 AM
Visited a "new" place for me -     the Mason Jar     Consear and Secor.      Bar type atmosphere but the menu selection was fancier than bar food - and the food and quality was very good!    (had the "reuben" sandwich - can't recall their name)   and Seared Ahi Tunu for a shared appetizer was very interesting find!


Glad to hear the review.  I'll go anywhere for a great Reuben and I've noticed their place a few times lately when we've been down that way!

http://www.masonjartapandgrill.com/ (http://www.masonjartapandgrill.com/)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on November 11, 2017, 10:17:14 AM
It's not the traditional reuben with thousand island.  It does have good corned beef and some kind of cole slaw and bacon..
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 11, 2017, 10:39:19 AM
It's not the traditional reuben with thousand island.  It does have good corned beef and some kind of cole slaw and bacon..

I'm not necessarily hung up on 'traditional'...

I enjoy some variety too!

Mason Jar doesn't have a photo of their sandwich but they do have this description:

Quote
BETTER THAN BOSTON'S BEST
Warm corned beef, swiss, American slaw, crispy bacon, house Russian dressing on thick cut rye
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Newport-Bill on November 11, 2017, 11:19:37 AM
Works for me.  A good reuben is hard to beat.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on November 11, 2017, 11:37:55 AM
Works for me.  A good reuben is hard to beat.
I'm new to the reuben...    and not sure why I never had them much before -  but the variation was nice twist.

best I've had is in Dunedin Fla so far - a smoked Reuben  - can't recall the place but its right in the heart of the town next to Flannigans Irish Pub

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on November 11, 2017, 12:02:39 PM
I'm new to the reuben...    and not sure why I never had them much before -  but the variation was nice twist.

best I've had is in Dunedin Fla so far - a smoked Reuben  - can't recall the place but its right in the heart of the town next to Flannigans Irish Pub


That was most likely the Dunedin Smokehouse...

worth the trip if you're anywhere along the Florida Gulf Coast!!!

http://www.thedunedinsmokehouse.com/index.php (http://www.thedunedinsmokehouse.com/index.php)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on December 01, 2017, 07:41:27 PM
Probably not new place.
A couple of people down here raving about the pizza at Nick and Ninos in Monroe
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on December 04, 2017, 09:11:29 AM
Pizza is good at N&N, beer selection is just OK, but unfortunately the service is much too spotty to be a reliably good spot.  I certainly wouldn't go there with a large group.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 04, 2017, 01:33:07 PM
So long as they have Root Beer, I'm good to go.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 14, 2017, 09:25:26 AM
Pizza is good at N&N, beer selection is just OK, but unfortunately the service is much too spotty to be a reliably good spot.  I certainly wouldn't go there with a large group.

Understatement for the entire month of December.  Unfortunately we had a few too many bad experiences in a row so we haven't been back in a long, long time >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 14, 2017, 09:29:01 AM
Jimmy John's finally got their parking lot asphalt installed.  Looking just from the street the interior looks like it's ready to go. 

About the same time we noticed their parking lot finished we were at Meijer one night around 7ish and the paving crew (Al's maybe?) was working hard on the lot at the Panda Express across the drive from Wendy's on the Telegraph side.  I haven't heard that they're open yet either.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on December 14, 2017, 10:41:23 AM
Panda is open. I ate there last night for the first time ever. The girls said they opened Tuesday at 1;00. They threw that place up overnight practically.
I had orange chicken and Walnut shrimp and it was ok. There menu is not extensive but theres a good selection especially if you find something you like and stick with it.
They were packed and I think they'll do good at that location.
It would be interesting to know the whole story on what Jimmy John's took so long.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 14, 2017, 11:13:32 AM
Panda is open. I ate there last night for the first time ever. The girls said they opened Tuesday at 1;00. They threw that place up overnight practically.
I had orange chicken and Walnut shrimp and it was ok. There menu is not extensive but theres a good selection especially if you find something you like and stick with it.
They were packed and I think they'll do good at that location.
It would be interesting to know the whole story on what Jimmy John's took so long.

We were at Meijer on Monday and there were some guys working on the roof still. 

Need to be out there today or tomorrow so we'll swing by and check it out.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 14, 2017, 02:24:08 PM
What is Panda anyway?  Isn't that a cuddly bear?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on December 14, 2017, 03:04:51 PM
It used to be now its an entre !!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 14, 2017, 06:36:29 PM
What is Panda anyway?  Isn't that a cuddly bear?


https://www.pandaexpress.com/ (https://www.pandaexpress.com/)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 15, 2017, 08:24:49 AM
Chinese Sizzling in Dumbdee is close for us and I bet better,.  Never a bad meal, very polite and attentive wait staff and so clean you can eat off the floor....  and very reasonable prices too.

Only thing that we don't like there is their brocolli.  The saute it in something I don't care for.  Tastes like shitte.

Kind of disappointed with the coney island next door to them.  Had some good meals there, Al's Club sandwich is excellent, so is their burgers and coney's but I had the liver and onions and it was tastless.  Their mashed potatoes are instant and horrible, their spaghetti and meatballs blow and their pancakes ( with breakfast) are bogus too.

If you go there, stick with the onion rings (real not chopped and excellent) and standard fare and no cakes with breakfast, french toast instead.

Prices are real good at both the Coney Island and Chinese Sizzling and at the Sizzling, you might have to wait in line to get in at peak times.  It's popular.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on December 15, 2017, 09:38:41 AM
I don't know why anyone would serve instant mashed potatoes.  It's so easy to put one in the microwave for 3 or 4 min then mash it up with some sour cream and butter.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 15, 2017, 10:17:44 AM
We drove by JJ's yesterday and there were a couple of service vehicles in the drive.  The whole parking lot had been plowed which seemed a little strange.  No sigh of any 'grand opening' but also no 'opening soon' sign either :-\ :-\ :-\


Panda is open. I ate there last night for the first time ever. The girls said they opened Tuesday at 1;00. They threw that place up overnight practically.
I had orange chicken and Walnut shrimp and it was ok. There menu is not extensive but theres a good selection especially if you find something you like and stick with it.
They were packed and I think they'll do good at that location.
It would be interesting to know the whole story on what Jimmy John's took so long.


Yes, would make a good business course in how 'not' to do an opening vs. how the Panda place did there project.

We didn't make it north of the river yesterday but we'll make it a destination one of these afternoons.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 15, 2017, 09:00:24 PM
We made it out to Panda Express just before dark tonight.

The parking lot was packed and there were people standing right out to the door.  The drive thru was lined up all the way around the building.

We went next door to Wendy's and had a nice quiet bite to eat :) :) :)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 15, 2017, 10:32:44 PM
Understandable.  The one thing I won't do is wait in line to eat.  Too many places for that.  We still need to get to I-Hop before it closes up...  Beaneries come and go in Moron.

I like Wendy's myself.  Always have.  Burglar King, no.  Arby's is tops with us.  McDees no.  Not paying high buck prices to sit on blow molded plastic seats and listen to screaming kids.  We always hit KFC in Adrian on 52.  Same people that own both in Moron own the Adrian store.

Years ago I hauled chicken for KFC.  They have beyond a doubt, the best quality control of any chicken joint.  Very particular about what they buy, from portion size to moisture content to fat content to overall color.  I've seen KFC reject a full load of fresh chicken (refrigerated) because one box didn't meet their criteria.  One box out of a couple hundred.  of course it didn't go to waste because there was always another chicken fryer there to buy it.

One of the best and safest places for fast food.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on December 18, 2017, 09:15:47 AM
Banks must be loosing up the "Loans"..   or the people who purchased JJ  needed a write off this year! 

Business schools vs  learning from the family is likely what occurred here...
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 18, 2017, 10:45:59 PM
Not sure about that.  Yellen raised the prime.  Surprised Trump hasn't shown her the door yet.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 19, 2017, 05:44:59 PM
Just saw a report on 13ABC Toledo that the 'new' Jimmy John's in Monroe is now open!!!

I guess they finally got open for the Christmas rush ;) ;) ;)

We'll give them a few days before we try them!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on December 19, 2017, 06:04:47 PM
I'm not a big fan.  I've had them but never had the big urge to return anytime soon after. 
I go to Howards Meats and they'll make up anything you want
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 19, 2017, 06:41:49 PM
Apparently Qdoba hasn't been a big success in other areas besides here!!!


https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2017/12/19/jack-box-qdoba/964005001/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2017/12/19/jack-box-qdoba/964005001/)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 19, 2017, 08:17:40 PM
You guys are beanery junkies.  I've never heard of them or Jimmy Johns for that matter.  Not sure I want to either.  I prefer the old standby stuff, made at home.

besides, I don't want to really be out and about breathing flu germs.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 20, 2017, 08:50:03 AM
You guys are beanery junkies.  I've never heard of them or Jimmy Johns for that matter.  Not sure I want to either.  I prefer the old standby stuff, made at home.

besides, I don't want to really be out and about breathing flu germs.

They make shots for that!

Junkies ??? ??? ???

Most of the places we've mentioned are all right here in Monroe.  It IS a 'local' thread topic!

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 20, 2017, 09:34:13 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/943479010335580160/itHbX0o3?format=jpg&name=600x314)

Article from the MonroeNews:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20171220/jimmy-johns-opens-its-second-location-in-monroe (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20171220/jimmy-johns-opens-its-second-location-in-monroe)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 20, 2017, 09:58:41 AM
What is the cuisine?  Burgers or bland ethnic food?  You can only build so many fast food joints and then things start going downhill and the weak drop out..  Like Quizino's.

They were good but overpriced.  Bad franchise.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: indy99 on December 20, 2017, 10:39:30 AM
The founders of Jimmy Johns are Big game hunters.  I'm not big on people killing Giraffes for a head mount.  Killing a deer for venison and to control overpopulation is one thing but low or endangered animals is another.

  I know.... they give the meat to the local tribes. 8*

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on December 20, 2017, 11:02:28 AM
I never went to Quizion's often but i too thought they were pretty good
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on December 20, 2017, 01:16:12 PM
Its a Christmas Miracle... they opened   :)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 21, 2017, 09:17:39 AM
You have to get down in this article to find the info about a storage business wanting to purchase the former LaZBoy building on Telegraph Road.  Sounds like Monroe may become the 'storage' center of Michigan.  Maybe they'll put in freezers and all the pizza places in town can store their frozen bulk items there ;) ;) ;)

Storage sounds way short of a nice big box store with 100 new jobs :-\ :-\ :-\

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20171220/monroe-council-votes-down-millers-bid-to-stay-on-planning-commission (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20171220/monroe-council-votes-down-millers-bid-to-stay-on-planning-commission)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on December 21, 2017, 09:49:40 AM
People in southern michigan must have lots of toys.  There are storage lots in Bedford Twsp everywhere you look..
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 21, 2017, 10:05:39 AM
I think a lot of those in Bedford are full of toys from people that live in Toledo. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on December 21, 2017, 10:24:53 AM
Storage sounds way short of a nice big box store with 100 new jobs :-\ :-\ :-\

I think its a pipe dream to think that property will see a major development in the near future.    Monroe is exactly the kind of market where chain retail is shrinking.   I think we are likely to see more closings rather than openings.    If we see any new development its likely going to be toward the northeast for easy access to where most of the new residential construction is--and frankly those people are just as likely to head north to Woodhaven.   The storage facility is an opportunity to get it back in use.

I know in a previous article the same company wanted to do this project in the former Target but couldn't pull it together.   The article never explained why--was it the price Target wanted for the box, the township, or deed restrictions on the property placed by the mall?   Now there's another box for sale at Cole and Monroe that's not in the city and the seller probably really doesn't care what the buyer wants to do with it.   With the latest delay I could see the LZB deal collapsing and the project moving over there.
Title: Calder's Dairy new Flat Rock Dairy outlet store now open.
Post by: BigRedDog on December 21, 2017, 10:26:43 AM
A mile or so north of Monroe County...

we took a ride up to the just opened retail outlet for Calder's Dairy.

Take Telegraph north and start watching for the road to dip under the railroad overpass.  Just as you start down the underpass you need to be in the left hand lane.  Watch out for the gal in the red Jeep Grand Cherokee that doesn't understand that sometimes people do turn left even though it is a major inconvenience to her time schedule :o :o :o

Fair warning for those that think grocery store prices are 'too high'...   

don't even bother driving up there! 

Their products are expensive but they're as close to what 'Grandma' used to make as you're going to find anywhere!!!

Makes great Christmas gifts too ;) ;) ;)

In addition to their own dairy products they have many other 'Made in Michigan' and high quality products.

They had several different candy products from Sanders in Detroit.  Again, great Christmas gifts!!!

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20171216/calders-opens-new-dairy-store-in-flat-rock (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20171216/calders-opens-new-dairy-store-in-flat-rock)

https://www.facebook.com/calderdairy/ (https://www.facebook.com/calderdairy/)

https://calderdairy.com/ (https://calderdairy.com/)

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 21, 2017, 10:45:31 AM
Didn't they have a store on Telegraph just north of the Raisin River overpass (on the right) by the Auto Body Plant at one time or was that someone else?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 21, 2017, 10:49:09 AM
People in southern michigan must have lots of toys.  There are storage lots in Bedford Twsp everywhere you look..

Flush autoworkers have to store their 'toys' somewhere....  I can pick them out around here pretty easy.  Yards full of toys, cars, jeeps, campers, motor homes... you name it, all sitting and depreciating in the weather.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 21, 2017, 11:24:03 AM
Didn't they have a store on Telegraph just north of the Raisin River overpass (on the right) by the Auto Body Plant at one time or was that someone else?

That's the Independent Dairy...   they're still there.  No idea where they get their milk from though.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 21, 2017, 11:15:22 PM
That's the Independent Dairy...   they're still there.  No idea where they get their milk from though.

You can tell how much I get over that way.  My trips to Moron consist of renewing my CPL and that is it.  Don't drink milk anyway, lactose intolerant.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 21, 2017, 11:18:44 PM
What is with Tim Horton's and Hepatitis A.  I read there was a second case with an employee there.  Thats my favorite TH (when I go to Moron that is).  Always get more change than I give them in payment.  Must be the 'new math' they reach in schools today.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on December 22, 2017, 10:04:54 AM
I didn't hear about the second case..
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 22, 2017, 04:55:49 PM
The founders of Jimmy Johns are Big game hunters.  I'm not big on people killing Giraffes for a head mount.  Killing a deer for venison and to control overpopulation is one thing but low or endangered animals is another.

  I know.... they give the meat to the local tribes. 8*

They have to donate it.  You are barred (by Federal Law) from bringing meat into this country from any African game hunt.  You can bring a mount in but, it has to be mounted there and shipped in and it still is subject to a quarantine period, I believe 6 months.

If I was flush, I'd do an African dangerous game hunt any day.  Lion, Tiger, Giraffe, Hippo, whatever.  As it is, there are plenty of opportunities to hunt large game right here and I don't mean deer either.  Deer in my book are medium sized game animals.  Lots bigger stuff and predators to hunt out there.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 22, 2017, 04:57:52 PM
I didn't hear about the second case..

In the Telegram again, not the MN and I forgot to post it.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 23, 2017, 08:26:31 AM
What is with Tim Horton's and Hepatitis A. I read there was a second case with an employee there.  Thats my favorite TH (when I go to Moron that is).  Always get more change than I give them in payment.  Must be the 'new math' they reach in schools today.


Do you have a link to where you read that?

I've only heard of the one incident and this article from a couple of days ago is only mentioning the once incident.

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20171221/hundreds-vaccinated-against-virus (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20171221/hundreds-vaccinated-against-virus)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 23, 2017, 10:31:11 AM
Do you have a link to where you read that?

I've only heard of the one incident and this article from a couple of days ago is only mentioning the once incident.

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20171221/hundreds-vaccinated-against-virus[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20171221/hundreds-vaccinated-against-virus[/url])


It's long gone.  CL contributes to the landfill every morning.

One thing I know and that is I won't be going there again.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on December 23, 2017, 11:35:47 AM
I wonder how ofter people working in the food business are tested for hepatitus?  There are probably a lot of people carrying it without knowing it.    They may have been sick at one time and though it was flu.
I would like to think if a person has been identified with it they would not be allowed handle food or anything to do with food. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 23, 2017, 11:54:08 AM
It's long gone.  CL contributes to the landfill every morning.

One thing I know and that is I won't be going there again.


At this point they're probably the cleanest and safest place in the area to go.  I imagine all the current employees had to be tested and they had to do a very thorough cleaning.

I don't go there just because I don't need the sweet stuff but I would't be concerned about eating there.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: CatLady on December 23, 2017, 12:03:15 PM
I wonder how ofter people working in the food business are tested for hepatitus?  There are probably a lot of people carrying it without knowing it.    They may have been sick at one time and though it was flu.
I would like to think if a person has been identified with it they would not be allowed handle food or anything to do with food.

You know you're sick - trust me.  The orange pee is a dead give away.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 23, 2017, 04:40:08 PM
You know you're sick - trust me.  The orange pee is a dead give away.

I thought that meant you were dehydrated?

 8*
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: CatLady on December 23, 2017, 06:00:37 PM
I thought that meant you were dehydrated?

 8*

Dehydrated is NO pee.   ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 23, 2017, 07:54:08 PM
Dehydrated is NO pee.   ;)

Nope....  unless your Kidneys have shut down?

https://www.healthline.com/health/what-causes-orange-urine (https://www.healthline.com/health/what-causes-orange-urine)

 ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on December 28, 2017, 07:00:20 PM
Saw on TV11 news tonight that there was confirmed a second hepatitis case associated with TimmyHo..
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 28, 2017, 07:46:51 PM
Saw on TV11 news tonight that there was confirmed a second hepatitis case associated with TimmyHo..


The Blade has an article too.  http://www.toledoblade.com/Medical/2017/12/28/2nd-Monroe-Tim-Hortons-employee-diagnosed-with-hepatitis-A.html (http://www.toledoblade.com/Medical/2017/12/28/2nd-Monroe-Tim-Hortons-employee-diagnosed-with-hepatitis-A.html)


I just checked the MonroeNews website and they didn't have anything yet.


We drove by there this afternoon around 3:30 and I noticed there weren't many cars in the parking lot but there was a Monroe County Ambulance.  No lights or siren so the crew must have been inside grabbing a bite!



Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 28, 2017, 08:12:15 PM
Just saw this on Twitter from 13ABC Toledo.

http://www.13abc.com/content/news/A-second-Monroe-Co-restaurant-employee-diagnosed-with-Hepatitis-A-467044883.html (http://www.13abc.com/content/news/A-second-Monroe-Co-restaurant-employee-diagnosed-with-Hepatitis-A-467044883.html)

The latest victim was also an employee. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on December 28, 2017, 08:45:08 PM
Apparently Monroe trying to keep it under cover
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on December 28, 2017, 08:55:15 PM
I remember a long time ago when Monroe had it's own newspaper, and they actually covered what was going on in Monroe.

It's been awhile.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 29, 2017, 09:12:56 AM
Apparently Monroe trying to keep it under cover


I remember a long time ago when Monroe had it's own newspaper, and they actually covered what was going on in Monroe.

It's been awhile.


I finally saw a tweet from the MonroeNews that they had posted a story to their website.

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20171228/second-case-of-hepatitis-confirmed (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20171228/second-case-of-hepatitis-confirmed)


I don't think there's any keeping it quiet at this point.  I've seen tweets from most of the TV stations in both Toledo and Detroit.


Does anyone have any idea what the time frame is between exposure and the showing of symptoms?  According to some of the articles the first person was diagnosed on the 17th and then the 2nd person was diagnosed yesterday.

It would be interesting to know if there was some kind of a relationship between the two other than just co-workers.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 29, 2017, 11:38:20 AM
Quote
Symptoms typically appear 2-6 weeks after exposure


Found the above in this Detroit News article:

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2017/12/29/hep-case-confirmed-monroe-county-restaurant/108996164/ (http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2017/12/29/hep-case-confirmed-monroe-county-restaurant/108996164/)

If it takes up to 6 weeks we could be just at the tip of the iceberg even if the restaurant is clean and all the staff has been vaccinated.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on December 29, 2017, 11:39:04 AM
Scary stuff.....I was a little surprised to see that much detail released, but it is necessary I suppose.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 29, 2017, 01:03:13 PM
Scary stuff.....I was a little surprised to see that much detail released, but it is necessary I suppose.


I'm sure it's always a matter of a fine line between public health and worker privacy. 

13ABC noon news had a brief segment and they showed workers in Tim Hortons wearing masks and scrubbing the store.

I did laugh a little as they recommended the long list of people that should have a vaccination and they included the 'first responders'.

First responders have had to get them for years.

Here's a YouTube with quite a bit of info.  There are many, many more online!

Hepatitis A Causes, Symptoms and Treatment (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlbZY8W0Pc4#)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 29, 2017, 01:59:04 PM
I remember a long time ago when Monroe had it's own newspaper, and they actually covered what was going on in Monroe.

It's been awhile.

Just a cat box liner now.  Good for shitte only.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 29, 2017, 07:34:57 PM
The health department is holding a clinic tomorrow until 2.

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20171229/walk-in-clinic-available-saturday-for-hepatitis-vaccine (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20171229/walk-in-clinic-available-saturday-for-hepatitis-vaccine)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on December 29, 2017, 11:27:54 PM
Will there be Tim Horton's coffee ??
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on December 30, 2017, 07:44:50 AM
LOL, now wouldn't that be ironic!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 30, 2017, 08:52:44 AM
Will there be Tim Horton's coffee ??

Yes, and it will be served by volunteers that all work for TH :o :o :o
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 30, 2017, 09:48:51 AM
Tim Horton's in Monroe, home of the diseased sliders.....

Their doughnuts are on par with Krispy Kreme.  Made elsewhere, delivered at night and slightly stale by 8AM.  Whoopee.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on December 30, 2017, 10:02:00 AM
I haven't followed the details.  Were both hep-a workers there?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on December 30, 2017, 10:39:13 AM
Earlier this year there was some kind of an outbreak at a donut shop in Toledo.

Sounds like Monroe is just trying to 'keep up' with big brother down the road ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on December 30, 2017, 11:16:55 AM
Just another reason i rarely go to a restaurant or fast food place.  i limit my visits to occasions where the family goes for one reason or another..
i prepare better meal than most.  With the exceptions of places like Mancys in Toledo.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on December 30, 2017, 12:48:02 PM
Mancy's rocks......pretty close to the top of my list in the area since moving here.

I prepare a lot too blue, I prefer my cooking over any of the fast food chains any day, and it is much cheaper!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 02, 2018, 07:19:18 PM
We drove by Tim Horton's on S. Monroe a couple of times today.  No sign of life anywhere.

Does anyone know if the Health Department can shut them down under these circumstances or would it be a voluntary closing?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on January 03, 2018, 07:09:11 AM
I have to believe the health department could shut them down but I also know the franchise owners are good people who live here and do a lot for the community both officially as Tim Hortons and in many other ways.   I'm sure they are also making decisions based on doing the right thing. 

It seems like sanitizing the restaurant itself is probably a pretty easy task.   They've already had a company in to do that.   The bigger issue it seems to me is that the whole crew has likely been exposed and you've got to be sure you have that under control at this point.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 03, 2018, 08:26:53 AM
I have to believe the health department could shut them down but I also know the franchise owners are good people who live here and do a lot for the community both officially as Tim Hortons and in many other ways.   I'm sure they are also making decisions based on doing the right thing. 

It seems like sanitizing the restaurant itself is probably a pretty easy task.   They've already had a company in to do that.   The bigger issue it seems to me is that the whole crew has likely been exposed and you've got to be sure you have that under control at this point.
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It appears the only way to make sure that is under control is to wait out the period of exposure to showing symptoms and that can be anywhere from 2 to 6 weeks.

If they could put together a crew that has all been vaccinated longer than 6 weeks ago that should work.

I saw the one tv report that showed them deep cleaning the restaurant and that was after the more recent report.  I would assume they did it after the first report too.  The time between incidents sure seems like it is most likely an issue with employees though.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 03, 2018, 08:43:13 AM
The store for Humane Society will be staying in the mall for a couple of years.  I talked to one of the young ladies that volunteers there.

https://www.monroehumane.com/newsletters/ (https://www.monroehumane.com/newsletters/)


I have no idea if they have to pay any rent on their spot.  They sure get a lot of people standing and looking at the 'dog of the day' or the cats.

I was watching a gal the other day and it reminded me of:

How Much Is That Doggie In The Window - Patti Page (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AkLE4X-bbU#)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on January 03, 2018, 11:18:44 AM
It appears the only way to make sure that is under control is to wait out the period of exposure to showing symptoms and that can be anywhere from 2 to 6 weeks.

That's kind of what I was thinking.   
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 03, 2018, 05:43:07 PM
That's kind of what I was thinking.

Not a single vehicle in the parking lot at Tim Horton's when we drove by there this afternoon.  I drove around the block and pulled in.  There's a sign in the door that says:

Quote
SORRY FOR THE INCONVENIENCE

WE ARE CLOSED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE

I took a picture of it so I have it right down to the all caps!!!

Nothing else (like a sign from the Health Department) I could see anywhere.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 03, 2018, 08:03:59 PM
Not a single vehicle in the parking lot at Tim Horton's when we drove by there this afternoon.  I drove around the block and pulled in.  There's a sign in the door that says:

I took a picture of it so I have it right down to the all caps!!!

Nothing else (like a sign from the Health Department) I could see anywhere.

I'd say they are done at that location (maybe the other one too).  Too bad.  Was the only place where I could get more money back in change than I gave in payment.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 03, 2018, 08:08:31 PM
Rumor has it that the Bar and Grill 'Great Lakes Pub and Eatery' is moving into the closed Lone Star.  Will be interesting in as much as they occupy more than half of the building at the present location.  Have good deep fried frog legs, had them before.  hear their fried pickles are good too.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 03, 2018, 08:56:40 PM
Health Department will continue with the vaccination clinic.

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20180103/hepatitis-clinic-hours-extended (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20180103/hepatitis-clinic-hours-extended)

Seems like enough time has passed from the first incident that if any customers were exposed we'd be hearing about people with symptoms. 

I'd still like to know if there was any kind of a 'close' relationship between the two employees :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on January 05, 2018, 08:57:51 AM
I had just got a coffee for my sister in the Hospital that last "morning" -   sad to see it affect a local business in that way.   The hospital in Detroit says they have it all the time in their area.    Its more "news" because of our smaller town and the apparent lack of the vacination program startup.   I would have had all employees done. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on January 05, 2018, 10:11:54 AM
I'd think everyone working in a food business would be required to be vac for Hep-A since it's so easily passed.  And we know there are a lot of lazy ignorant people in the world.  The signs in the restrooms don't mean much to those people..
maybe they should be made to wear the gloves when they go to the restroom. then dispose them
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on January 05, 2018, 02:24:36 PM
I was told by someone who should know that all food establishment owners are allowed to do is suggest their employees get the vaccine.   They can't mandate it.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: excelsior on January 05, 2018, 07:57:40 PM

I drove by Sal's Place Family Restaurant on N. Dixie tonight and it appears to be open.    I will have to check it out next time I visit my friend at DB.

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Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 05, 2018, 10:44:00 PM
I take it the Tim Horton's in town is now DOA?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on January 06, 2018, 12:32:55 AM
Tim's will survive. That particular one could have used an all new well trained staff anyways. Maybe this is an opportunity for the owner to 'right the ship'
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 06, 2018, 08:58:58 AM
I take it the Tim Horton's in town is now DOA?

They're closed at the time but I would think they'll be able to pull things together.  They were always busy...   even after the first case became public.  There's not much competition right there so that will probably help them. 

I"d guess it will be slower at first but people forget that kind of stuff pretty quick.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on January 06, 2018, 09:51:30 AM
I've heard it stated that an employer can't force an employee to get the Hep-A vaccination.  I wonder if the employer can ask that question in the interview process.  More than likely a HIPA issue huh, even though it might keep people from dying..
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on January 15, 2018, 07:55:28 AM
Tim Hortons reopened this morning.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on January 15, 2018, 08:34:29 AM
No opening yet, but looks like someone is putting some money into the old Monroe Townsite Plaza.   Most of the dated facade has been ripped off and all the old signage has been removed.   Nice to see some things happening on the south side of town over the last couple years.   Looks like the whole Kroger shopping center is full now too.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 15, 2018, 10:32:40 AM
Tim Hortons reopened this morning.

The parking lot panderers need some place to pander.....lol  I won't be patronizing it.  Don't like commisaey made and trucked in doughnuts anyway.  Doughnuts get stale fast.  When they develop that 'sheen' they are shot anyway.

Besides, it takes 3 days to digest a doughnut from start to finish....  Way too long for a fat laden slider to be inside me...
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on January 15, 2018, 03:58:21 PM
Wow, 3 days,  mine usually goes away sometime the next day
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 15, 2018, 10:20:57 PM
Wow, 3 days,  mine usually goes away sometime the next day

When you get to be my age.....  3 days. ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 16, 2018, 08:22:43 AM
Tim Hortons reopened this morning.

We drove by about 3 in the afternoon and there were several vehicles in the parking lot.  Only one vehicle in the drive thru.  I've seen it busier at that time of day. 

When we got to the mall to walk the parking lot by the theater entrance was packed.  All the kids out of school must have driven to the  mall to go to the theater!

While I was walking I noticed a new addition in the hall down by Target.  They've put up a thermometer!!!  I'd noticed it was getting pretty cool down that way on those ultra cold days. 

On my 2nd or 3rd lap I checked the temp and it was at 61 degrees.  Good walking temp once you're warmed up.  It was a bit cool when I hit my 'cool down' lap though.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 16, 2018, 08:35:12 AM
No opening yet, but looks like someone is putting some money into the old Monroe Townsite Plaza.   Most of the dated facade has been ripped off and all the old signage has been removed.   Nice to see some things happening on the south side of town over the last couple years.  Looks like the whole Kroger shopping center is full now too.

The last time I waked around there was one unit over by the Dollar place that was vacant but there was equipment and supplies in there.  I wondered then if someone was in there working or if they were just using it for storage. 

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 16, 2018, 09:43:08 AM
CL and I have not been anywhere near Monroe for a long time.  No reason to go.  Adrian has everything we require and much less congestion as well.

The defunct Steak and Shake on 223 in the strip (adjacent to Wal-Mart) will be reopening as a Panera Bread in the spring.

I surmised that someone would acquire it.  Lots of traffic on 223 at M52.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: eriemermaid on January 16, 2018, 03:58:19 PM
I love most of the soups that Panera has!  Especially the black bean one!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 16, 2018, 05:04:11 PM
I'm sure CL and I will try it.  We really liked Steak and shake and it was always busy.  I heard the reason it closed was a disagreement between the franchise owners.  Place has been empty for a while.  There was some other beanery in there for a short time, think it was called Adrian Creamery but it only lasted a couple months and closed.

I imagine that building is a pretty big nut to crack every month.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 16, 2018, 05:30:54 PM
No opening yet, but looks like someone is putting some money into the old Monroe Townsite Plaza.   Most of the dated facade has been ripped off and all the old signage has been removed.   Nice to see some things happening on the south side of town over the last couple years.   Looks like the whole Kroger shopping center is full now too.

There was a sale on the property in November.  They purchased the property as an LLC which makes it more difficult to figure out who the owner is and therefore what their plans might be.

Hard to tell for sure but I see a 'possibility' of a Chinese restaurant there in the future!!!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 16, 2018, 10:41:08 PM
How many 'Chinese' beaneries are enough in one town?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: indy99 on January 17, 2018, 12:27:14 AM
Well we tried the new Sal's restaurant/coney island on Dixie in Frenchtown.

Just what Monroe needed, another average diner with the same old menu items just like any of the other diners in the area.  Hey Sal.... you need to step it up and make some unique food items to make your place stand out from the rest.  Same old burgers, coneys, sandwiches, and dinner plates.

Nice staff, clean place, and average joe food.  I can get that anywhere.  If you make a rocking chicken dinner with pizazz and a special beef dish that is savory and delicious I'm sure you will do great for a long time.  I tried the walleye dinner 8* I don't think it was a real walleye. Your fish guy substituted something else.  My lady had the shrimp dinner 8* not so great, it was cut in a really strange way.  Not a typical butterfly cut as listed on the menu.

So... a clean place, nice staff, and average food.  My score  6.2/10 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 17, 2018, 07:56:35 AM
How many 'Chinese' beaneries are enough in one town?

Even one would not survive on my dime!

I haven't heard anything but just connecting some dots in the background of the new owner.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on January 17, 2018, 08:20:51 AM
Just what Monroe needed, another average diner with the same old menu items just like any of the other diners in the area.  Hey Sal.... you need to step it up and make some unique food items to make your place stand out from the rest.  Same old burgers, coneys, sandwiches, and dinner plates.

I saw the menu online and wrote them off before they even opened.   Someone might as well buy all these places up and make a chain out of them.   Maybe call it "Mediocre Joes".
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on January 17, 2018, 09:07:45 AM
Sort of off topic, but Flip....have you tried the new chicken pot pies that KFC is putting out?  I see them marketing them now in the St. Louis area, not sure if they are being sold back home though.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 17, 2018, 12:33:50 PM
Sort of off topic, but Flip....have you tried the new chicken pot pies that KFC is putting out?  I see them marketing them now in the St. Louis area, not sure if they are being sold back home though.

Local outlets here don't offer them...yet but I did try one in Ionia on the way back from up north with Jimmy.  They are good.  The Ionia KFC on M66 in town, has a full buffet plus the carryout or dine in chicken in all varieties.

All the KFC's around here are owned by the same person, both in Monroe (2) and the one in Adrian.  They also owned the one in Tecumseh that caught fire (from an electrical issue, not overcooked chicken) that was never rebuilt for some reason.  Just an empty lot now (across from Bader's John Deere).  No for sale sign so I keep hoping it will be rebuilt at some point.

CL and I did swing into Jets Pizza in Tecumseh the other night and ordered up a thick crust rectangular pizza pie with pepperoni and extra cheese and brought it home and true to Jets, it was just as good as any we have had elsewhere.  Jets is tops for pizza in my book, about the only pizza we don't get indigestion from.

Waiting for the beanery and bar to move into the closed steak house that was on the corner of 23 and 50.  They have good stuff at their present location, just down the way.

We go to the Chinese Sizzling or the Dundee Coney Island (in the same strip) off Waterstradt across M50 from Cabelas.  The Coney don't have much in the way of ambience (none at all actually) but has a good inexpensive breakfast (stay away from the pancakes) and dinners, Liver and onions suck, so does the meatloaf and spaghetti and meatballs, but everything else is good to excellent and they make real battewred deep fried onion rings, not the constituted (ground up onion) ones other beaneries offer.

Their burgers are fantastic and so it their Al's club sandwich.  Cheesecake is homemade and excellent too.

Chinese Sizzling is so clean you could eat off the floor in the mens room, never seen a Chinese beanery so clean before, usually they are dirty.  Not this one and the food is good and you get plenty, we usually wind up bringing some home for another meal.  The Coney and the Chinese place do carryout.

We do Chinese in moderation, we prefer American cusine and of course KFC.

Finally went to Culvers in Adrian the other day.  It's very good too.  Specialty burgers and fare.  Reasonably priced too.  Nice dining room, unlike McDees, no plastic seating.  Real sloth seats.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 17, 2018, 07:01:37 PM
Local outlets here don't offer them...yet but I did try one in Ionia on the way back from up north with Jimmy.  They are good.  The Ionia KFC on M66 in town, has a full buffet plus the carryout or dine in chicken in all varieties.

All the KFC's around here are owned by the same person, both in Monroe (2) and the one in Adrian.  They also owned the one in Tecumseh that caught fire (from an electrical issue, not overcooked chicken) that was never rebuilt for some reason.  Just an empty lot now (across from Bader's John Deere).  No for sale sign so I keep hoping it will be rebuilt at some point.

CL and I did swing into Jets Pizza in Tecumseh the other night and ordered up a thick crust rectangular pizza pie with pepperoni and extra cheese and brought it home and true to Jets, it was just as good as any we have had elsewhere.  Jets is tops for pizza in my book, about the only pizza we don't get indigestion from.

Waiting for the beanery and bar to move into the closed steak house that was on the corner of 23 and 50.  They have good stuff at their present location, just down the way.

We go to the Chinese Sizzling or the Dundee Coney Island (in the same strip) off Waterstradt across M50 from Cabelas.  The Coney don't have much in the way of ambience (none at all actually) but has a good inexpensive breakfast (stay away from the pancakes) and dinners, Liver and onions suck, so does the meatloaf and spaghetti and meatballs, but everything else is good to excellent and they make real battewred deep fried onion rings, not the constituted (ground up onion) ones other beaneries offer.

Their burgers are fantastic and so it their Al's club sandwich.  Cheesecake is homemade and excellent too.

Chinese Sizzling is so clean you could eat off the floor in the mens room, never seen a Chinese beanery so clean before, usually they are dirty.  Not this one and the food is good and you get plenty, we usually wind up bringing some home for another meal.  The Coney and the Chinese place do carryout.

We do Chinese in moderation, we prefer American cusine and of course KFC.

Finally went to Culvers in Adrian the other day.  It's very good too.  Specialty burgers and fare.  Reasonably priced too.  Nice dining room, unlike McDees, no plastic seating.  Real sloth seats.


Have you tried JR's in Adrian yet.  On Division by Meijer.  I think it's where Fazoli's used to be.

We've been to the one in Milan several times and we've enjoyed it every time.  Can't speak for the one in Adrian but I would hope it would be a similar experience.

The one in Milan is the only one that serves breakfast.  I assume because of their proximity to 23.

http://www.jrsgrillandpub.com/ (http://www.jrsgrillandpub.com/)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 17, 2018, 09:35:58 PM
We've been to JR's in Adrian a couple times, it's good too.  Actually, we have not found a bad eatery in Adrian.  JR's in Milan is on the strip that parallels 23 right?  I'd say for us, it's a wash, Adrian or Milan, about the same distance.

This time of the year though I prefer eating at home.  Just too crappy outside to go out to eat.

Been wanting to try Carl's Cabin in Plymouth on Gotfredson Road at Territorial.  I hear you need a big wallet but it's always packed.  We get up that way to visit CL's brother and always go by it.

Cannot be n any bigger wallet place than the Villa however.

Think my favorite place down your way has the be LaFiesta on Telegraph.  Have really good Taco's.  Don't upset my tummy.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 18, 2018, 05:59:06 AM
We've been to JR's in Adrian a couple times, it's good too.  Actually, we have not found a bad eatery in Adrian. JR's in Milan is on the strip that parallels 23 right?  I'd say for us, it's a wash, Adrian or Milan, about the same distance.

This time of the year though I prefer eating at home.  Just too crappy outside to go out to eat.

Been wanting to try Carl's Cabin in Plymouth on Gotfredson Road at Territorial.  I hear you need a big wallet but it's always packed.  We get up that way to visit CL's brother and always go by it.

Cannot be n any bigger wallet place than the Villa however.

Think my favorite place down your way has the be LaFiesta on Telegraph.  Have really good Taco's.  Don't upset my tummy.

Yes, 23 backs up to the freeway.  It was originally built for a Big Boy but it seems like there was something else in there before JRs opened.

I guess I probably wouldn't just get in the car to drive there to eat but if we're up that way it's a nice place to stop.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on January 18, 2018, 08:43:15 AM
Another not open yet, but heard a rumor Tropical Smootie Cafe, a hit with the kids, is coming soon.  Already listed on their web site as coming soon at 1111 N. Telegraph which is the empty lot between KFC and the newish powersports place.   A little digging on the Googles shows a 2-tenant commercial building is going in there.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on January 18, 2018, 06:27:57 PM
No opening yet, but looks like someone is putting some money into the old Monroe Townsite Plaza.   Most of the dated facade has been ripped off and all the old signage has been removed.   Nice to see some things happening on the south side of town over the last couple years.   Looks like the whole Kroger shopping center is full now too.
Curious the plan - as it appears the past owner was chasing out long time resident occupants.   
Some landlords need a write off it seems
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on January 18, 2018, 06:29:17 PM
I see the owner of the Monroe Golf & Country Club passed away...   

Hopefully the family had a plan better than the one on LaPlaisance did.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 18, 2018, 06:37:19 PM
Curious the plan - as it appears the past owner was chasing out long time resident occupants.   
Some landlords need a write off it seems

The two biggest units on the front had been vacant for a couple of years at least.

The pharmacy built where the armory was and moved over there.  That's well documented in posts here.

The other one was the GoodWill training center that moved over on Telegraph next to the GoodWill store.  That's been at least a couple of years.  There were active 'for lease' signs in the windows until just recently.  I haven't followed any of the other tenants.  As far as I know the tire place is still in the back.  There was a chiropractor on the north end and an insurance office on the south end.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on January 19, 2018, 08:30:51 AM
I thought the tire place closed a while back but apparently not.   I think I read that in the paper so it was probably wrong.   Owner sounds like a real friendly guy from the reviews online.   I think there's also a home healthcare office or something like that in the little standalone building on the north end still.   Its a confusing jumble of buildings and even less appealing from the back.   Hopefully it gets spruced up and put back to work.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 21, 2018, 03:39:53 PM
No opening yet, but looks like someone is putting some money into the old Monroe Townsite Plaza.   Most of the dated facade has been ripped off and all the old signage has been removed.   Nice to see some things happening on the south side of town over the last couple years.   Looks like the whole Kroger shopping center is full now too.

I see they got started with the new facade at the south end of the building. 

Galvanized steel studs covered by waferboard...

I'll bet it won't last as long as those cedar shakes that have been on there at least the last 35 years!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on January 22, 2018, 08:41:51 AM
Lets hope not!   That was looking really dated.   It looks like that was probably at least the second "look" for the building based on what was underneath.   Looks like it got expanded at least a couple times and I imagine that cedar shake look was to tie the last additions in.   I imagine its getting that stucco over foam treatment that is popular now.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on January 22, 2018, 11:02:31 PM
Interesting read in yesterdays paper -   someone bought the building at 10 W First -  talking about puting 10-20 million into it??       That will be some project
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 23, 2018, 09:03:54 AM
Interesting read in yesterdays paper -   someone bought the building at 10 W First -  talking about puting 10-20 million into it??       That will be some project


http://www.monroenews.com/news/20180122/taking-chance-on-downtown-monroe (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20180122/taking-chance-on-downtown-monroe)

I don't know Mr. Philbeck but I am familiar with the building.  Although it's far from 'new' it is newer than most of the buildings surrounding it.  It has quite a bit of frontage in an are where many of the buildings were quite narrow.  I'm guessing maybe there was a fire in that are many years ago and this was the replacement building. 

Seems like one downfall was no elevator.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: halo_girl on January 23, 2018, 09:10:11 AM
Interesting read in yesterdays paper -   someone bought the building at 10 W First -  talking about puting 10-20 million into it??       That will be some project

"The plans for downtown don’t stop at 10 W. First. Over the next five or so years, Philbeck and his group hope to invest between $10 million and $20 million in downtown Monroe."
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 23, 2018, 09:10:51 AM
Lets hope not!   That was looking really dated.   It looks like that was probably at least the second "look" for the building based on what was underneath.   Looks like it got expanded at least a couple times and I imagine that cedar shake look was to tie the last additions in.   I imagine its getting that stucco over foam treatment that is popular now.


That's what it looks like to me too.  They had a big crew working yesterday taking advantage of the nice weather. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 24, 2018, 08:54:49 AM
"The plans for downtown don’t stop at 10 W. First. Over the next five or so years, Philbeck and his group hope to invest between $10 million and $20 million in downtown Monroe."

If they do half of their projections it should still have a major impact!!!

Someone needs to do something along the river though.  Small towns that draw big crowds frequently have a riverfront attraction of some sort.

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 25, 2018, 08:00:58 AM
From the MonroeNews website this morning:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20180125/sals-place-has-opened-on-n-dixie-highway (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20180125/sals-place-has-opened-on-n-dixie-highway)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on January 25, 2018, 08:35:56 AM
The whole purpose of the riverwalk was to encourage that.   Mostly it gets used as a fishing pier and a way for walkers/runners/bikers to bypass the crossings at Monroe and Macomb when using the trail/sidewalk system that runs from Munson out to the state park.  After all these years, only 129 Lounge has put anything back there and that's not actually connected to the riverwalk.  It's a shame because its is pretty nice out there on a summer evening. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 25, 2018, 10:01:52 AM
The whole purpose of the riverwalk was to encourage that.   Mostly it gets used as a fishing pier and a way for walkers/runners/bikers to bypass the crossings at Monroe and Macomb when using the trail/sidewalk system that runs from Munson out to the state park.  After all these years, only 129 Lounge has put anything back there and that's not actually connected to the riverwalk.  It's a shame because its is pretty nice out there on a summer evening.

Do you recall if the riverwalk was built before Kennons' was in business? 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 25, 2018, 07:37:59 PM
Do you recall if the riverwalk was built before Kennons' was in business?

Wasn't that the restaurant that John Iacoangeli took city money to open it, went out of business quickly, didn't repay the loan - but made money selling the liquor license?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 26, 2018, 08:36:18 AM
Wasn't that the restaurant that John Iacoangeli took city money to open it, went out of business quickly, didn't repay the loan - but made money selling the liquor license?

No idea...

first time I ever heard any of that. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 26, 2018, 09:18:40 AM
Far as I can see. downtown Monroe is stuck in the 60's and isn't moving...at all.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on January 28, 2018, 08:52:33 AM
Nah, it was booming in the 60's.   There's actually a lot going on down there but other than a few retail shops and restaurants the commercial aspect is all professional offices.   Also, it seems like the city must have ordinances against any meaningful signage as most of them have little to none.   The other thing people don't realize is that there are a ton of people living downtown.   Lots of younger professional types and empty nesters choosing to live down there.  The pictures I've seen, there are a lot of really nice apartments down there.

The big hole though is very blatent and that's Monroe Street.   Something desperately needs to happen with especially the west side of the street in the main block.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 28, 2018, 11:00:18 AM
Lots of younger professional types and empty nesters choosing to live down there.  The pictures I've seen, there are a lot of really nice apartments down there.

The big hole though is very blatent and that's Monroe Street.   Something desperately needs to happen with especially the west side of the street in the main block.

Is that why I couldn't find a parking spot on Friday evening?

I am pretty sure the couple of bars and restaurants weren't the reason for it.

The west side of Monroe Street being an underdeveloped blight section has been mainly blamed on Monroe Street being 5 lanes, and apparently that is a chasm that businesses can't breach.

That is why some enlightened people want to make Monroe Street 2 or 3 lanes through town.  That will fix everything.

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on January 28, 2018, 10:49:26 PM
Calming lanes and angled parking are the next idea - but the roundabout would look great...   

What else can they cram in before they realize the "River" is there?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on January 29, 2018, 06:33:42 PM
Calming lanes and angled parking are the next idea - but the roundabout would look great...   

What else can they cram in before they realize the "River" is there?

You mean the river that businesses have their back to, and almost none take advantage of?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on January 30, 2018, 10:18:32 AM
That has always puzzled me, but I don't know enough about those buildings and how the back doors are accessed.  Terrible not to take advantage of that view though.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on January 30, 2018, 11:10:06 AM
When all of those buildings were built the river was their sewer so naturally the back faced the river. It would take a massive investment to improve the river side of those existing buildings and cooperation from ALL of the owners to get it done.
With that said is the river in that area all that attractive and would that magically improve the downtown enough to make the investment worth it ?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 30, 2018, 11:11:59 AM
That has always puzzled me, but I don't know enough about those buildings and how the back doors are accessed.  Terrible not to take advantage of that view though.

I've been in most of those buildings at one time or another.  Most were built with no consideration of using the river frontage in any way. 

Next time you're in Monroe go across the river and pull in the parking lot behind Subway and take a look.  It's pretty hit or miss the way all the buildings tie together. 

Admittedly, it would be difficult to make over the back of the buildings to make them 'front' (that is the name of the street ironically enough) on the river.  If that could be accomplished the uses would be unlimited. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 30, 2018, 11:15:44 AM
When all of those buildings were built the river was their sewer so naturally the back faced the river. It would take a massive investment to improve the river side of those existing buildings and cooperation from ALL of the owners to get it done.
With that said is the river in that area all that attractive and would that magically improve the downtown enough to make the investment worth it ?

Excellent point!

As to the rest of your question I've been to a lot of other villages and small towns that have figured out how to make use of their 'not so attractive' frontage.  A little 'riverscaping' would probably be the least expensive part of the whole project.  As you mention, the cooperation involved would be the most complicated part.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on January 30, 2018, 11:22:11 AM
There's really not many doors back there.   Like BRD said they vary widely.   Some, depending on what's going on inside you could make a shop-front with a door on the riverwalk but no patio space.   Others have room for a patio but it would be off the basement.   Some have ugly additions.   Also, the riverwalk, being right of the river of course, floods in the spring.   They actually "close" it by putting chains across the ramps for the winter and reopen in the spring.   Some of those buildings are probably built to keep the river out of the basement in the spring and adding doors would be problematic.

I'm pretty sure 129 is the only business taking advantage of the view for the public.   
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on January 30, 2018, 11:27:36 AM
There's really not many doors back there.   Like BRD said they vary widely.   Some, depending on what's going on inside you could make a shop-front with a door on the riverwalk but no patio space.   Others have room for a patio but it would be off the basement.   Some have ugly additions.   Also, the riverwalk, being right of the river of course, floods in the spring.   They actually "close" it by putting chains across the ramps for the winter and reopen in the spring.   Some of those buildings are probably built to keep the river out of the basement in the spring and adding doors would be problematic.

I'm pretty sure 129 is the only business taking advantage of the view for the public.

Ugly additions is an understatement! 

I've often thought at some point in history there was a competition to see who could put on the ugliest addition.  In many cases we're talking about a hundred or more years ago.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on February 06, 2018, 10:53:32 AM
Saw on Facebook, new women's clothing boutique opening downtown in March in the space between Jones for Men and Amayas.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on February 14, 2018, 11:15:35 AM
We drove by the Townsite Plaza building (is that the proper name...  I always called it the Bender Building) and they have on section of the new fascia completed.  Similar style and nearly the same dark chocolate color and trim as the Kroger Plaza has. 

When we drove by a few days ago while it was so cold they had built a greenhouse over their work zone and kept right on plugging along.  I guess every 'coming soon' project in Monroe doesn't have to last 2 years ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on February 14, 2018, 07:09:25 PM
Saw on Facebook, new women's clothing boutique opening downtown in March in the space between Jones for Men and Amayas.

Is that Paul's Bakery?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on February 15, 2018, 06:35:51 AM
Not sure which one was the bakery building anymore.   It was most recently occupied by a gift shop that was occasionally open.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on February 15, 2018, 06:40:21 AM
When we drove by a few days ago while it was so cold they had built a greenhouse over their work zone and kept right on plugging along.  I guess every 'coming soon' project in Monroe doesn't have to last 2 years ;) ;) ;)

Yesterday they had the greenhouse moved down another section.   The new facade looks nice.   Makes you wonder if they don't have some things in the works already since they are putting a nice chunk of money into it.

Did you notice the neat old Monroe Engraving sign that was uncovered?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on February 15, 2018, 07:25:24 AM
Yesterday they had the greenhouse moved down another section.   The new facade looks nice.   Makes you wonder if they don't have some things in the works already since they are putting a nice chunk of money into it.

Did you notice the neat old Monroe Engraving sign that was uncovered?

I did not see that.  I'll pull over and take a closer look next time I go by there. 

They're going to have to put more money in than just a new facade.  I was familiar with a few of the units there and most of the mechanicals and the electric system all need some updating too. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on February 15, 2018, 08:53:43 AM
If you do go by, see if you can find out who the contractor is that is doing the facade work. I have a job I would like bid.
Thanks
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on February 15, 2018, 06:36:03 PM
Yesterday they had the greenhouse moved down another section.   The new facade looks nice.   Makes you wonder if they don't have some things in the works already since they are putting a nice chunk of money into it.

Did you notice the neat old Monroe Engraving sign that was uncovered?

Yes, I did see it today.  I believe it said Monroe Engraving and Design.  I did a Google search and didn't come up with anything.  I don't recall anything there like that since '87.

For anyone looking it's down on the north end by the chiropractor's office.  It probably won't be visible for very long though as it looks like that will be the next section they move their greenhouse cocoon to.

If you do go by, see if you can find out who the contractor is that is doing the facade work. I have a job I would like bid.
Thanks

Contact info is:

Johny Essou

Essou's Construction
313-363-2888 or 248-506-3344  (I assume one is a cell but it doesn't say so on the card)
2972 Reese Drive, Sterling Heights  48310

I know the name spellings seem a little unique but I double checked what I typed to make sure it matched the card.

It also says he's licensed and insured but almost every contractor has that :) :) :)

I talked to him and he was very pleasant and glad to have the inquiry.  There was another gentleman there talking with him who I suspect may be either the building owner or the man that owned the actual stucco application business.

He was the first to ask me if I had any questions and as soon as I asked about a business card he immediately brought Johny over.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on February 15, 2018, 06:51:10 PM
Thanks, I have a project that I will be talking to them about.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on February 15, 2018, 06:59:58 PM
Thanks, I have a project that I will be talking to them about.

I see there's an email on the card too.

JohnyEssou at yahoo dot com

I'd guess they're going to be there at least another week (depending of weather of course).  The finish crew is only a little over halfway done with the front and the framing crew is also working down around both corners so they still have a lot to do.

I was there right around 1ish...   I asked if there was any particular time it was best to call and he said he was usually available.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on February 18, 2018, 09:47:03 PM
Curious how many occupants they will design for...    or did they not change anything below.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on February 19, 2018, 09:35:47 AM
Curious how many occupants they will design for...    or did they not change anything below.

When I got there I saw the building permit in the window and headed straight towards it.  The only thing I noticed inside at that time were piles of the foam board and buckets of the stucco mix.  Most likely a different crew or crews will do the interior work.

That building has load bearing walls so there is only so much they can do with opening things up. 

Goodwill Industries had a training center in there just to the south of the pharmacy.  Goodwill moved to Telegraph road next to their 'new' store about the same time the pharmacy moved across the street.  I was in the building at that time and I was surprised how chopped up it is in the back. 

Those two units are adjacent so someone could have one very nice large unit by working around what I assume must be a load bearing wall between the two units.

I never did get a chance to go over the building permit as the contractors came right over to talk to me before I had a chance to see much.  I'll have to stop some evening when they're not working.










Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on February 21, 2018, 08:41:16 PM
We don't really have a place for business acquisitions so I'll go with leaving it under openings...

at least (for now anyway) it's not a closing!

I didn't realize Albertson's was actually out of Idaho (I thought Idaho just had potatoes and big trees) but they have stores across the southern states too.

Sounds like they'll maintain the 'Rite-Aid' name for now.

http://www.mlive.com/news/us-world/index.ssf/2018/02/rite_aid_bought_by_grocery_sto.html#incart_most-read_ (http://www.mlive.com/news/us-world/index.ssf/2018/02/rite_aid_bought_by_grocery_sto.html#incart_most-read_)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: supermom on February 26, 2018, 01:30:26 PM
I guess every 'coming soon' project in Monroe doesn't have to last 2 years ;) ;) ;)

The Townsite Building is in Monroe Township. Therefore it doesn't take 2 years. 2 years is the city of Monroe.  ???
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on February 26, 2018, 02:00:02 PM
The Townsite Building is in Monroe Township. Therefore it doesn't take 2 years. 2 years is the city of Monroe.  ???

I know exactly where you're coming from and I agree that Monroe Charter Township is easier to work with than Frenchtown Charter Township and the City of Monroe when it comes to remodeling or new construction of commercial property.

Very often it involves the 'means and motivation' of the owner. 

Oftentimes it means not having enough money (means) to proceed at a rapid rate but in some cases it seems to mean that they have more than enough money so they don't necessarily have to focus on the particular project we happen to be focused on at the time.

Monroe Charter Township has had their share of 'slow' going projects over the years...

anything and everything related to the malls on Laplaisance comes to mind right away.

The eatery across from the Secretary of State's office is another one. 

Originally it took months and months for they to get the restaurant open.  I remember poking at their roof project as being a landing pad for drones!

They finally opened and seem to be doing a decent business and months and months ago announced they were opening a bar adjacent to the restaurant.  We do go in the restaurant from time to time and I check through the windows of the so announced bar and watch the progress.  It appears to be on the same schedule as they built the restaurant.

That could have to do with the liquor license although the restaurant has beer and wine already. 

I'm mostly just curious to see what all will eventually end up in the Townsite building.

The crew doing the fascia project has made good headway in spite of the weather not always being cooperative. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on March 07, 2018, 11:07:58 AM
Facebook says Fazoli’s will be open March 13th!
In monroe.  Toledo had one that i went to fairly often. 
Always though it was pretty good.
Sure beat all the other places for fast food.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on March 07, 2018, 12:09:00 PM
Didn't take two years for that Panda place by Meijer...   I'm curious how much is inexperience of those "planning" and dealing with the process.   

What is and where are they opening - "Fazoli's"   can't say I've heard of them
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on March 07, 2018, 01:40:00 PM
Didn't take two years for that Panda place by Meijer...   I'm curious how much is inexperience of those "planning" and dealing with the process.   

What is and where are they opening - "Fazoli's"
  can't say I've heard of them

Fazoli's had a place here several years ago just across the Meijer parking lot from the new Panda...

where Vaqueros' is now.

They closed that one but for several years after that there was one on Telegraph (or maybe it was Lewis) just north of Alexis. 

They were always bringing around more fresh breadsticks for you.

Now they're going in at the TA Travel Center on N. Dixie.  We had just commented last week that the outside looked all set to go.

Looks like they still push the breadsticks too ;D ;D ;D

https://www.fazolis.com/ (https://www.fazolis.com/)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on March 07, 2018, 02:10:38 PM
I loved their spaghetti. I will be going there on a regular basis. Couldn't understand why the one in Monroe closed or the one in Toledo.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on March 07, 2018, 03:14:47 PM
yes, Fazoli's was on Lewis just north of Alexis.  At the end of Lowe's.  There is an orthodontist in the building now.
Mostly Italian food..
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 07, 2018, 05:22:42 PM
Kind of partial to Lena's in Blissfield.  Pizza is over the top too.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on March 07, 2018, 06:20:08 PM
yes, Fazoli's was on Lewis just north of Alexis.  At the end of Lowe's.  There is an orthodontist in the building now.
Mostly Italian food..

Yes, Lewis for sure!

Telegraph was the strip club that burned...

maybe some hot Italian there too though ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on March 09, 2018, 12:30:55 PM
The renovations at the Townsite building are continuing through the so-so weather. 

They've moved the cocoon to the south end of the building now. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on March 09, 2018, 06:20:52 PM
They actually made it a nice looking frontage...   wonder how long before they develop the land across the road and lower the berms making a better view?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on March 10, 2018, 10:29:31 AM
https://www.bba.org/events/event/2018-bba-trade-fair/ (https://www.bba.org/events/event/2018-bba-trade-fair/)
 
Anybody out and about and want to kill some time they can browse around the Bedford
Trade Fair at the high school.  Hundreds of business with displays in both auditoriums and food in the cafeteria.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on March 11, 2018, 09:27:11 AM
They actually made it a nice looking frontage...   wonder how long before they develop the land across the road and lower the berms making a better view?

Looking at Google Earth, there's very little room between the road and the water.   Comparing the depth of Dixie soft serve for example--their building alone would take up half the space.   It would probably have to be twice as close to the street to even fit by the time you figure the terrain by the "shore" unless it was cantilevered out--neat but expensive.   It should would be nice to see that at least landscaped instead of the current "former industrial" look it currently has going on.  Unless some governmental unit buys it and maintains it though, I'm guessing that's unlikely.   And the cost and current budgets make that about impossible.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on March 11, 2018, 03:28:58 PM
I would envision a long narrow - business,  to utilize the land...   and yes cantilevered decking would be a plus to take advantage of the view.     Heck jet ski rental/restaurant would work!  Small bistro type gastropub's thrive in other areas - and while likely a seasonal business,  if done properly would work.     Problem is they put another place at the other end of the lake - and probably hope people can see it as they drive out to Manufacturers marketplace - once they lower the berms there...   


Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on March 11, 2018, 04:33:00 PM
Looking at Google Earth, there's very little room between the road and the water.   Comparing the depth of Dixie soft serve for example--their building alone would take up half the space.   It would probably have to be twice as close to the street to even fit by the time you figure the terrain by the "shore" unless it was cantilevered out--neat but expensive.   It should would be nice to see that at least landscaped instead of the current "former industrial" look it currently has going on.  Unless some governmental unit buys it and maintains it though, I'm guessing that's unlikely.   And the cost and current budgets make that about impossible.

That was the cost of the Governments fighting the new quarry.

They kept mining the old one until the Government lost, and by then there wasn't the land left around the hole that was originally planned.

Another victory for the Monroe Community.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: indy99 on March 20, 2018, 09:45:11 PM
The other day I noticed a new to me hair cutting joint called Hair Mechanix located in the plaza with Happy's pizza.  Since the place I usually go on Macomb is being renovated I figured ok try this one.

Well it is definitely a young mans place.  They offered me a complimentary beer or water while waiting. Lots of tvs tuned to sports and other shows and all the stations had roll-away tool box for the stylist.  The haircut was very good but.....that woman talked alot you know what I mean 23x. You know what I mean, what I mean.

17 bucks for the cut, if you want a beard trim add 8 more to the plate.  I liked the cut but I don't think it is an old mans place to get a trim.   Oh well the hunt goes on.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on March 20, 2018, 11:48:48 PM
Theyre not paying their rent so they may be transferred to the Business Closing thread real soon.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on March 21, 2018, 08:22:16 AM
Theyre not paying their rent so they may be transferred to the Business Closing thread real soon.

They must have skipped that line item on their business plan :o :o :o
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 21, 2018, 10:10:02 AM
They must have skipped that line item on their business plan :o :o :o

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on March 21, 2018, 12:16:11 PM
They must have skipped that line item on their business plan :o :o :o

I'd love to have a compilation of "business plans"  from places around town  :)   


Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on March 21, 2018, 12:20:18 PM
I'd love to have a compilation of "business plans"  from places around town  :)

1.  Install 'Opening Soon' sign...
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: indy99 on April 02, 2018, 10:05:33 AM
Well we tried Fazolis last night.    Just about on par with Banquet frozen crapola and re-imagined shoe laces.

22.00 for 2 people.  I can get a whole lotta frozen dinners for that.

Our score.... 6
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on April 02, 2018, 10:21:48 AM
Wow, they've deteriorated then.  It was always decent and a much better choice for fast food than the burger joints.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 02, 2018, 10:48:50 AM
22 bucks for 2 is about par anywhere.  Even McDees will be that much today and at McDees you get to sit on plastic benches and listen to unruly kids.

When CL and I go out (anywhere) it always averages between 20 and 25 bucks depending on what we order.

My opinion about any TV dinner is they all taste like various levels of cardboard.  We had some Marie Callendar stuff the other night (think it was some pot pie)....  It was horrible.  Went in the dog's dinner.  Dog will eat anything.

Best bang for the buck we have found is Chinese Sizzling in Dundee. dinner for 2, 20 bucks.  The place is so clean you could eat off the bathroom floor.  I just cannot do Chinese all the time.  You eat and 20 minutes later you are hungry again but, the food is excellent, service is great as well.  I do carry out' as well.  Call 'em up and it's ready when I get there.

Favorites are Shrimp Egg Foo Young, Sweet and Sour pork.  CL likes the Crab Ragoo and egg drop soup.  I do the Won Ton with crisp noodles and always an egg roll.

Dundee Coney next door isn't bad either.  The spag blows and the pancakes (they do breakfast) blow too.  Burgers are tops, coney's are good and they do real onion rings (from scratch...yummy.

My culinary plusses and negatives for the day.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on April 04, 2018, 12:43:02 PM
Wow, they've deteriorated then.  It was always decent and a much better choice for fast food than the burger joints.

I haven't been in one since they closed the one on Lewis at Alexis. 

Maybe the new location and new staff they're still getting the bugs out...

or maybe they have literally lowered their standards.  Time will tell.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on April 04, 2018, 12:46:13 PM
A pretty solid rumor that Monroe is getting a new Harbor Freight store in the near future.  The lease is signed in an existing strip mall so all they have to do is put the 'Coming Soon' sign!!!

I would think they probably have a regular team that moves around and opens new stores so it shouldn't take too long and it should go fairly smooth. 

I'm on my way to their store in Toledo in just a few minutes so I'll ask and see if they know or if they'll tell. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on April 04, 2018, 03:47:07 PM
I have a couple of union buddies that give me crap whenever I mention Harbor Freight. But where else are you going to buy something that isn't made in China.
I've bought a few things with good results.
I especially like their American flags for $10. The same one at Lambertville hardware is $30
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 04, 2018, 10:23:34 PM
A pretty solid rumor that Monroe is getting a new Harbor Freight store in the near future.  The lease is signed in an existing strip mall so all they have to do is put the 'Coming Soon' sign!!!

I would think they probably have a regular team that moves around and opens new stores so it shouldn't take too long and it should go fairly smooth. 

I'm on my way to their store in Toledo in just a few minutes so I'll ask and see if they know or if they'll tell.

I use the one in Adrian, sales tax is less than Toledo and I never leave home without a 20% off coupon either.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on April 04, 2018, 10:33:06 PM
Been expecting this news.   What happens in Adrian generally happens in Monroe or vise-versa.   N. Telegraph & Stewart?   S. Dixie?   Townsite?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on April 04, 2018, 11:22:28 PM
Manufacturers marketplace?  The mall ? Kmart ?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on April 05, 2018, 08:41:22 AM
Is there room for them at the mall? :D

Not listed on the "coming soon" list on their site nor are any jobs listed on their "career" site.   But like you said, they probably will move pretty quick as there's not much buildout in their stores.   

On their site, it says they require 13,000-15,000 sqft visible from the street and a 4:1 parking ratio which means 52-60 spots.   That's about the size of a chain drug store.   BRD said strip mall so my assumption was not the mall and not Kmart.  S. Dixie's old Kroger plaza probably has space but is pretty dead and a long way from most growth.   Laplaisance which is dead.   Can't picture anything that big on Telegraph unless someone is leaving/moving and its not announced yet.   Townsite probably doesn't have that much parking for the whole complex.  There's a number of smaller spaces and unsuitable-for-much buildings but what's that big?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on April 05, 2018, 08:43:07 AM
Been expecting this news.   What happens in Adrian generally happens in Monroe or vise-versa.   N. Telegraph & Stewart?   S. Dixie?   Townsite?

Yes.

When I was checking out one of the junior managers was clearing the cash out of the clerk's register. 

I asked him about a 'Monroe Store' and he said "Yes, they're planning one but we don't know exactly where yet". 

He did say that they hope to be open by June sometime.

I told him they better get a team up here to look for an 'Opening Soon' sign because they were in short supply!!!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on April 05, 2018, 10:43:47 AM
Aha - so we have a Mystery to solve...  kind of like the ole   Where am I photo's  :)

Kmart may be too large -
The former Farmer Jack on telegraph/front  would be a good site-     except the hospital hasn't finished building and the other locations aren't closing soon... 

Can't imagine they would venture to the dead zone  (Manufacturers Mkt plc)     
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on April 05, 2018, 10:59:08 AM
On HF's Facebook page they claim to be opening a new store every 3 days at this time.  Currently they have over 850 stores.

Here is some info on what they look for in a store for those that may be interested.

https://www.harborfreight.com/real-estate.html (https://www.harborfreight.com/real-estate.html)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on April 05, 2018, 11:07:46 AM
Never been in a HF...   but a quick search found the hydraulic lift for my zero turn mower at a much better price than I've seen at other places! 

Guess I can wait til June  :)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on April 05, 2018, 12:48:32 PM
Theres that empty packaging and shipping place on N Telegraph that could work.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on April 05, 2018, 12:50:51 PM
The HF in Toledo in Miracle Mile is in a separate building that was Joanne Fabric.  Much smaller than a K-mart bldg.  Maybe about half the size
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on April 05, 2018, 07:06:00 PM
I'm sure there is plenty of space available in the Mall of Monroe.

It could pass for an anchor store there.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on April 06, 2018, 08:50:33 AM
That Packing and Shipping place is close the right size at 17,000sqft.   KMart could be split up like the old Walmart.   But BRD said existing strip mall.     
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on April 08, 2018, 09:47:46 AM
When several were compiling a list of available locations for HF there is one that everyone missed.   

The original Big Wheel building that later became Crafts 2000.  If Carson't leave the mall then will Pat Catan want to stay or move back to the S. Dixie location?

http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/15311-S-Dixie-Hwy-Monroe-MI/5890532/ (http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/15311-S-Dixie-Hwy-Monroe-MI/5890532/)

(http://images3.loopnet.com/i2/NUVvfpYrwRR-Y71qIIk4Aa3Zkolmk1ZEXmwcTDLEOnw/112/image.jpg)


I think everyone missed my reply to where the new HF store is going... 

I highlighted the info I have in one of my replies.

Telegraph and Stewart in the 'Odd Lots' Mall.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on April 08, 2018, 10:57:38 AM
i don't know how the business is out on the other end of the city.  I do know it lost almost all of the southern border residents and everyone from Toledo..
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on April 08, 2018, 11:16:45 AM
i don't know how the business is out on the other end of the city.  I do know it lost almost all of the southern border residents and everyone from Toledo..



They have an outlet on Navarre street in Oregon.  When they were south of Monroe it might have been a similar distance for west side Toledo people to travel but now it's absolutely closer to go to Oregon. 

http://www.patcatans.com/craft-store-locations/oregon-oh (http://www.patcatans.com/craft-store-locations/oregon-oh)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on April 09, 2018, 07:26:15 AM
Pat Catans seems a lot slower than when they were at the other location.   Being so close to Hobby Lobby, and a lot less visible probably hurt.   When they moved Target was still there and a couple new stores, all now gone, had just opened at the mall.   Bet they regret it.   The one big advantage PC has is they are open on Sunday--important to parents who's kids have a project due Monday.

Bon Ton's auction got rescheduled to tomorrow.   Must be still trying to hammer out a deal to save part or all of the company.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on April 09, 2018, 02:04:41 PM
Pat Catans seems a lot slower than when they were at the other location.   Being so close to Hobby Lobby, and a lot less visible probably hurt.   When they moved Target was still there and a couple new stores, all now gone, had just opened at the mall.  Bet they regret it.   The one big advantage PC has is they are open on Sunday--important to parents who's kids have a project due Monday.

Bon Ton's auction got rescheduled to tomorrow.   Must be still trying to hammer out a deal to save part or all of the company.

Makes me wonder if they'll just move back to their former S. Dixie building if the mall closes.  I suppose they could operate out of their current location as they're kind of 'free standing' but they would really be off the beaten path at that point. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 09, 2018, 08:32:43 PM
Speaking of Auctions, the Shiver Shack in Deerfield is up for auction.  Been for sale for 3 years and no bites.  Guess they are tired of paying RE taxes on a no profit business.

Pretty soon Deerfield will dry up and blow away.  Plane Wave is moving out too, to Adrian.  Have to change the name to Deadfield.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on April 12, 2018, 11:05:26 PM
Saw a sign in the window of the former Asiana -   some Tai type place  "opening soon"...
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on April 25, 2018, 09:45:27 PM
Harbor Freight Tools
Associate Sales
1549 N TELEGRAPH RD
MONROE

https://sjobs.brassring.com/TGnewUI/Search/home/HomeWithPreLoad?partnerid=26281&siteid=6657&PageType=JobDetails&jobid=459909&codes=INDEED#jobDetails=459909_6657

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on April 26, 2018, 08:28:07 AM
Harbor Freight Tools
Associate Sales
1549 N TELEGRAPH RD
MONROE

https://sjobs.brassring.com/TGnewUI/Search/home/HomeWithPreLoad?partnerid=26281&siteid=6657&PageType=JobDetails&jobid=459909&codes=INDEED#jobDetails=459909_6657


Interesting about the 1549 address.  I shows on the tax rolls as Subway but also has a couple of 'inactive' listings.  Maybe they're just doing job interviews in the Subway?  Maybe Subway is moving or closing.  I saw something in just the last few days that Subway was preparing to close around 500 units across the country. 

Seems like it would be confusing to have 2 businesses with the same address though.


Quote
1549 N TELEGRAPH   07 000 634 00 (Parcel Number)   SUCESSFUL RESTAURANTS PERFORMACE IN   **Personal Property
1549 N TELEGRAPH   07 000 634 00 (Parcel Number)   **Sub-Address - view parcel details for owner information   **Personal Property
**Inactive
1549 N TELEGRAPH   07 806 003 00 (Parcel Number)   **Sub-Address - view parcel details for owner information   **Inactive
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on April 26, 2018, 10:53:23 AM
I saw that.   Subway is a small space between 2 big, empty spaces I believe.   The pool store just moved too, opening up a big area on the south end but looking at the aerial view those units aren't very deep.   
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on April 28, 2018, 09:17:58 AM
We've had some discussion on the 'Mulch King' business down in Bedford before. 

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20180428/mulch-king-fills-need-for-yard-waste-disposal (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20180428/mulch-king-fills-need-for-yard-waste-disposal)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on April 28, 2018, 09:51:03 AM
There are huge piles of stuff there now.  He's moved a lot of dirt around on what looks like 8 or 10 acres.   Dug some pits for something.
I'd like to buy mulch from him as an alternative to what we can but now.  I'm pretty sure the mulch we get from where ever is the source of all the strange bugs and weeds.
He sure has a lot of expensive heavy equip setting around.

And i hope for the sake of all the sufferers in Bedford township the pyromaniacs take the stuff there.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 28, 2018, 11:18:30 AM
Heidtman (Bates Jr.) owned the property and may still own it for all I know.  At one time, Dundee Products had a buy option on it,(they were going to build a new plant there), in addition to the one they have in Dundee, but that must have fallen through.  Only issue I see is potential leaching of contaminated runoff from the operation getting into the drain that runs through it.

People tend to bring more that leaves, sticks and brush to drop off....
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on April 28, 2018, 02:00:54 PM
I saw that.   Subway is a small space between 2 big, empty spaces I believe.   The pool store just moved too, opening up a big area on the south end but looking at the aerial view those units aren't very deep.

Yes, Subway 'was' a small space between 2 big, empty spaces.  Subway is long gone and the walls are demolished out into both of the empty spaces.  There's a small sign in the door that says Subway is closed and please visit us at one of our other locations. 

There's a demolition permit in the window but nothing about Harbor Freight anywhere on that.  There are already big rolls of commercial carpet setting off to one side. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on April 28, 2018, 02:34:59 PM
Heidtman (Bates Jr.) owned the property and may still own it for all I know.  At one time, Dundee Products had a buy option on it,(they were going to build a new plant there), in addition to the one they have in Dundee, but that must have fallen through.  Only issue I see is potential leaching of contaminated runoff from the operation getting into the drain that runs through it.

People tend to bring more that leaves, sticks and brush to drop off....

Especially if there isn't someone there all the time monitoring exactly what is being unloaded!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on April 28, 2018, 09:23:59 PM
Bet that carpet was in whatever was to the north of subway.   Unless we're getting some kind of fancy Harbor Freight.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on April 29, 2018, 08:03:51 AM
Bet that carpet was in whatever was to the north of subway.   Unless we're getting some kind of fancy Harbor Freight.

I thought it was odd to see carpet rolls at this point.  I didn't spend a long time looking at them but they all looked the same length and the rolls all the same size and all very nice and neat.  Not like a typical demolition project.

Maybe it's something else besides carpet.

I was thinking they may put carpet in their offices and break room, etc. 

Harbor Freight will go from the Gym on the south to Aaron's on the north.  Maybe they should leave the Subway in the middle and just incorporate it into a new business structure...

Harbor Freight and Salad!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on April 30, 2018, 10:06:10 AM
I see the famous  "Open soon" sign on a potential new place on M-50

The tiny place that tried several hot dog and sit down places appears to be headed to a Pizza and Sub place. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on April 30, 2018, 12:12:16 PM
I see the famous  "Open soon" sign on a potential new place on M-50

The tiny place that tried several hot dog and sit down places appears to be headed to a Pizza and Sub place.

They must have done a market study and decided Monroe likes Pizza!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 30, 2018, 12:15:13 PM
Just curious, how many pizza pie joints are there in Monroe anyway?  Seems like there are a boatload already.

You can only slice a pizza so thin....  just say'in.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on April 30, 2018, 10:06:15 PM
Is there one on M50?   I think saturation in Monroe is > 1 per 1000' of roadway.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 01, 2018, 07:44:06 AM
Just curious, how many pizza pie joints are there in Monroe anyway?  Seems like there are a boatload already.

You can only slice a pizza so thin....  just say'in.


Here's a thread from 2015.  At that time Monroe held the title for most pizza places per population count.  Even if we've dropped now I doubt we've fallen very far.

http://monroetalks.com/forum/index.php?topic=30632.0 (http://monroetalks.com/forum/index.php?topic=30632.0)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 01, 2018, 03:08:25 PM
Not sure where to stick it but....  L&W Industries has sold all of it's plants (23) nationwide to a Greek businessman.  They have two plants (I think) in Monroe County and a tool and die shop.  Guess the Jones brothers wanted to cash in and get out of the automotive stamping and sub assembly business.

Could have something to do with Fords announcement that it will no longer build a full line of cars after 2020.  Gone are the Taurus, Flex, Fushion and others.  Only things they will build is F Series trucks, large SUV'a the Mustang and a Focus hybrid called the Active and some all electric cars in limited production.  Also at risk are the Lincoln MKS and MKZ because they share components that the discontinued lines use.

I read that FCA and GM are going to follow Fords lead.

I think they are making a big mistake if gas prices go up, the big boat sales tank.  It's been going up lately.

That really opens the door for the imports, built here and offshore.

If you want to buy a fuel efficient gas powered car after 2020, the choice will be import or nothing.

The automakers make their best profit margins on trucks and big crossovers.  I've heard upwards of 20% per unit.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 01, 2018, 03:13:45 PM
Is there one on M50?   I think saturation in Monroe is > 1 per 1000' of roadway.

candidly, CL and I like the frozen Brick Oven Style Frachetta (think that is right) better than made in the store take out or eat in pizza's.  Frozen, in the grocery store pizza has come a long way from the old taste like cardboard stuff from 10 years ago.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on May 01, 2018, 04:49:26 PM
You’d like to think the big 3 know what they are doing. But like you say if gas prices go up and stay there there will be more Honda’s,Toyota’s and such on the roads
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 02, 2018, 09:06:09 AM
You’d like to think the big 3 know what they are doing. But like you say if gas prices go up and stay there there will be more Honda’s,Toyota’s and such on the roads

They are going up as I post this.  According to the 'talking heads' it's because OPEC has curtailed production which is BS.  OPEC don't mean squat today.  WE have become the Saudi-Arabia of the oil world.  WE have the reserves and WE are now close to being a net exporter of oil.

All about profit and control.  WE are awash in crude but the talking heads don't want YOU to know that.

I think Ford is going down a path that will cause them to tumble but what o I know.  I'm just a consumer.  This consumer will continue to purchase fuel efficient vehicles however.  While I prefer Ford products (being a Fords family), I can buy a Honda or Nissan just as easily.

Henry probably rolled over in his grave...
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on May 02, 2018, 09:15:14 AM
They still have the edge and escape and a variety of small suv's. Ford is just stopping most of the car style bodies.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on May 02, 2018, 09:37:11 AM
The new Ecosport too which really isn't any bigger than a Focus seeing them side by side.   Just a little taller.   I'm sure that makes it heavier and less aerodynamic though.

Like it or not electric self-driving vehicles are probably the future and that's where Ford is heavily investing.  The technology has rapidly evolved.   Scoff if you must...so did the people against the newfangled horseless carriage 100 years ago.

Also Millennials have come of age and they aren't buying cars like GenX did.   Just like they aren't buying big houses in the 'burbs.   The one car per family they are buying, they want room for gear for their outdoor activities.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on May 02, 2018, 10:51:23 AM
They keep saying American wants big trucks and SUV.  But if they stop making them they can want all they want.  Oh, you say that's where all the profit is.  I get it..
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on May 02, 2018, 11:39:05 AM
I see the former Asiana has re-opened from the signs hanging outside their store...   The new place is either using the same name - or hasn't decided on a name/sign yet...
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 02, 2018, 12:30:05 PM
They keep saying American wants big trucks and SUV.  But if they stop making them they can want all they want.  Oh, you say that's where all the profit is.  I get it..

Typically 15-20% and if you finance with a company credit arm, even more.  Not many people can swing a 50 grand (or more) truck or SUV and not finance it.  You can always lease but a lease gives you nothing in the end but another lease.  Dealers don't like me.  I buy off lease and pay cash.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 02, 2018, 12:30:53 PM
I see the former Asiana has re-opened from the signs hanging outside their store...   The new place is either using the same name - or hasn't decided on a name/sign yet...
 

Don't know where that is but it sounds like another beanery.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on May 02, 2018, 02:54:33 PM
My dealer called and txt 3 times last week telling me I should trade my 2015 in as I only have a yr warranty left and owe 2 more years
Says will pay off my car and get me in new one for $125month less, a lease no less. As I see it after 2 years I’ll own my car with maybe 36,000 mi and be worth maybe $20/25M. If I take his deal after 3 years I won’t have anything
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 02, 2018, 05:36:54 PM
They keep saying American wants big trucks and SUV.  But if they stop making them they can want all they want.  Oh, you say that's where all the profit is.  I get it..

Only time will tell how this all plays out for Ford in the long run...

someone is going to either make a lot of money for Ford and look like a genius!!!

Or not!!!

Ford has an ace in the hole that they haven't had before.  They'll still be making a lot of 'cars'...

it's just that they'll all be being made overseas.  3 weeks on a freighter and they're here on the dealer's floor.  Problem solved.

The market is definitely changing.  Lots of people now driving pickups that used to drive cars.

Our youngest daughter (still under 30) doesn't want anything to do with a car.  I tried to give her a Focus we had and she said she was happy with her pickup.

Our son and his wife have a pickup and an Escape.  Our oldest daughter has an Escape and an Edge. 

My wife and I are the only ones in our immediate family with a sedan.  I do have a trailer hitch on it and do pull a trailer with it when I need more room.  That gives me way more than I'd get in even a larger SUV.  Obviously that is not for everyone though.

When we were young we all had to have coupes with big 'go fast' engines and loud exhaust!

My wife and I laughed when we finally bought a sedan so we could strap a baby seat in the back. 

We'd had coupes and pickups and our 'hippie' van. 

I remember when I was little how many people with big families had station wagons. 

The market is a changing and the market is what the market is.  The people (businesses) that change just ahead of it will do just fine!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on May 02, 2018, 07:42:22 PM
I drive a coupe but did have a Ram. My grandkids drive a Ram, Liberty, Cherokee and daughter has a Wrangler. So I guess yeah everyone wants the big stuff.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 02, 2018, 08:45:43 PM
I drive a coupe but did have a Ram. My grandkids drive a Ram, Liberty, Cherokee and daughter has a Wrangler. So I guess yeah everyone wants the big stuff.

When fuel gets back above 3 bucks a gallon those with big units will be whining.  me, I get 40 average mpg.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 02, 2018, 08:46:14 PM
New business in Bedford corner of Sterns Jackman
Use to be a little diner in loc.

Barbarian sandwich shop moved in where diner was.
They specialize in philly cheesecake type sandwiches

Sounds...  horrible.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on May 02, 2018, 10:16:33 PM
I think they tried to tell me Philly cheesesteak
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 03, 2018, 09:25:19 AM
I see the former Asiana has re-opened from the signs hanging outside their store...   The new place is either using the same name - or hasn't decided on a name/sign yet...

In some cases the new 'sign' is the most expensive part of opening a new business if you're going into leased space that was used for the same purpose at some point prior.  If recently used for an eatery it is probably pretty well up to code and health department requirements. 

There are some legalities in using the same name which is why you often see new names on banners covering the prior business sign. 

If the new people are operating Asiana under that same name (look close and see if an LLC became an Inc. or if they tacked on an 'of Monroe' or something like that).  It can be fairly minor but in the eyes of the law it's a different business.  Problems frequently arise when a similar business name contends that the names are confusing to the public.  In this case if the prior business 'sold' the name then no issue.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 03, 2018, 09:29:24 AM
I think they tried to tell me Philly cheesesteak

I like a good Philly Cheesesteak but most places don't know how to make a good one! 

Is that in the little strip where the old brick school is?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on May 03, 2018, 09:52:47 AM
i think that's what you are referring to.  There is a Pizza Primo that's been there a few years..
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 03, 2018, 11:55:27 AM
i think that's what you are referring to.  There is a Pizza Primo that's been there a few years..

That's it, 'Liberty Corners'! 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on May 31, 2018, 08:11:00 AM
Looks like a glass place is going into Townsite plaza   No main sign yet with the name so I'm not sure if someone is moving there or someone is coming to town.   

Someone is working on the building between Autozone and OReily.   Would have thought that was a tear-down but looks like maybe not.   Would be a perfect spot for a second Advance Auto :D

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 31, 2018, 08:36:20 AM
Looks like a glass place is going into Townsite plaza   No main sign yet with the name so I'm not sure if someone is moving there or someone is coming to town.   

Someone is working on the building between Autozone and OReily.   Would have thought that was a tear-down but looks like maybe not.   Would be a perfect spot for a second Advance Auto :D

Did you catch if it's automotive glass or 'window' glass? 

We're going that way later this morning so I'll stop and look things over.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on May 31, 2018, 12:39:44 PM
Said something about windshelds and shower doors on the signage that was up yesterday afternoon.

Harbor Freight has several jobs listed at 1549 N. Telegraph now.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on May 31, 2018, 01:13:55 PM
Said something about windshelds and shower doors on the signage that was up yesterday afternoon.

Harbor Freight has several jobs listed at 1549 N. Telegraph now.

I stopped on the way to town and looked it over.

It's 'The Glass Doctor'!

They've been in Monroe for a few years at least.  They're currently down on E. Front Street tucked in next to Mancinos.  That's where their office is but they have a shop or warehouse or whatever out in the industrial park on Harbor.

We had them do a vehicle window back in the winter time.

I called our auto insurance (Frankenmuth) and they said I could take it anywhere I wanted.  I asked if she had someone that would come and do it in my own shop and she gave me their number.  All I can say is they were 'on time' and had the job done in less than an hour.  The window doesn't leak and I can see through it just fine so I guess that makes it all a success. 

One interesting twist is that their van had 'Glass Doctor' on the side but their shirts had another chain's name o them.  While they were working we were talking and they were both from either Downriver or western suburbs of Detroit.  Apparently they did a job in the morning north of here and then drove to Monroe and exchanged vans and proceeded on to me. 

Didn't matter to me but I can see if someone had maybe had a prior beef with the other company and called the Glass Doctor intentionally to avoid them then they might have been upset. 

It will probably be a good move for them as far as being more visible to the public goes.  I think the unit they're going into was the one that was Tread Mill before they moved around back.  If so that has a long 'garage' in the back so it may let them move both facilities into one building.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 05, 2018, 09:19:23 AM
When we were heading north on Monroe Street one day last week I noticed signs for the Erie Bread Company in the 'front' window (that faces Monroe Street) of their building next to Firestone.  Now I see that they're expanding and actually more than doubling their size.  Doing all the morning sweets and coffee may draw some business away from Tim Horton's across the street.

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20180604/erie-bread-co-expands-store-menu-hours (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20180604/erie-bread-co-expands-store-menu-hours)
Title: IHOP tweet hints at changing name to 'IHOb' starting June 11
Post by: BigRedDog on June 06, 2018, 11:00:26 AM
International House of Burgers?

At least they're not closing!

https://www.freep.com/story/money/2018/06/05/ihop-tweet-hints-changing-name-ihob/673786002/ (https://www.freep.com/story/money/2018/06/05/ihop-tweet-hints-changing-name-ihob/673786002/)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on June 09, 2018, 12:08:35 PM
Went to Erie Bread Co for first time -  great sandwich!   and they were busy... so I see why the expansion.

on a further note - the dreaded "Open soon" sign is up for Harbor Freight at the Monroe Mall shopping strip center.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 09, 2018, 01:09:13 PM
I/we go to the Adrian store on M52.  All the same anyway.  Same Chinese rubber smell inside. ;D

HF has some good stuff and a lot of not so good stuff and a smattering of outright junk stuff.  One of my favorites are the $9.95 (on sale) Bunker Hill security (motion sensor) alarms.  Even with the cheapo HF batteries, they run for a year without battery replacement.  Anything made of rubber at HF is junk.  Chinese rubber rots in no time at all.  That rubber smell in every HF store is the Chinese rubber rotting.

HF wrenches and sockets are terrible and the screwdrivers bend at the tips.

I wonder how Trump's tariff's will impact HF.  Most everything at HF comes from China.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 09, 2018, 01:13:18 PM
Anybody been to the 'Social House' in Dundee?  Parking lot usually appears to be empty most of the time.  How about Threshers across from Kroger?  That lot is usually empty too.

My opinion is, like Monroe, too many resturants and too little people.

Threshers sounds like a B&D club. ;D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on June 09, 2018, 01:50:26 PM
The place across from Dundee Kroger tried to upscale and that failed horribly -  its back to a more neighborly type place I hear...   Friends went there after golf at dundee golf -  I'll get the report next time I run into them.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 10, 2018, 08:45:46 AM
Anybody been to the 'Social House' in Dundee?  Parking lot usually appears to be empty most of the time.  How about Threshers across from Kroger?  That lot is usually empty too.

My opinion is, like Monroe, too many resturants and too little people.

Threshers sounds like a B&D club. ;D

My guess is that a lot of the 'older' people that still remember the somewhat mysterious loss of the nuclear submarine Thresher may not want to flock to it.

Does the staff wear a B&D themed outfit?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on June 19, 2018, 01:10:52 PM
A 2nd Love's Truck Stop going into the county.

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20180618/loves-travel-stop-to-come-to-milan (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20180618/loves-travel-stop-to-come-to-milan)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 02, 2018, 12:50:37 PM
Anybody been to the 'Social House' in Dundee?  Parking lot usually appears to be empty most of the time.  How about Threshers across from Kroger?  That lot is usually empty too.

My opinion is, like Monroe, too many resturants and too little people.

Threshers sounds like a B&D club. ;D


Article from the MonroeNews on the Social House restaurant in Dundee:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20180702/dundee-couple-opens-restaurant-near-cabelas (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20180702/dundee-couple-opens-restaurant-near-cabelas)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 02, 2018, 01:00:41 PM
Article from the MonroeNews website today about the 'new' restaurant on 'Lake Monroe'.  It also explains at least part of the reason it's taking so long to build and open!

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20180702/quarry-quarrels-damages-delay-new-restaurant (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20180702/quarry-quarrels-damages-delay-new-restaurant)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 03, 2018, 07:07:48 AM
Article from the MonroeNews on the Social House restaurant in Dundee:

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20180702/dundee-couple-opens-restaurant-near-cabelas[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20180702/dundee-couple-opens-restaurant-near-cabelas[/url])


Couple things...

CL and I went to the Great Lakes Eatery and Pub the other evening.

Some observations:

One, food was pretty good.  The coleslaw sucked big time.  Portions are large, waitstaff is excellent, overall atmosphere is nice inside and out...

Now for the BAD part..

We won't ever go there again.  The prices are plain stupid.  How about $56 bucks for 2 hamburgers, a side of onion rings and 2 soft drinks.

For 56 bucks, I expect a steak with a bone, not ground meat.

The food (other than the coleslaw) was good, the cost was absurd.  I can go to Applebee's next door and eat for half that price (and Applebee's serves booze too)

Just too many resturants in the Dundee area with fair pricing.  Applebees, Bob Evans, Chinese Sizzling, Dundee Coney Island, even La Fiesta though we prefer the one on Telegraph.  I'd include Threshers out on the east end but I heard they lost their liquor license so no booze there, not that it's important as we don't drink.

I've heard the 'Social House' has good food and they have booze too.  We have to try them yet.  Never tried the pizza joint in town (Dundee) either, that's on our bucket list too.  I know they have dine in as well as carry out.

Finally, TLC Community Credit Union is opening a branch office on Cabelas Boulevard, right behind Walgreen's, in the building that houses Papa John's Pizza.  Good for CL and I as we have been members of TLC for years.

I believe out favorite has to be the Chinese place for price, amount of food and quality (always excellent) plus they have carry out (which we use quite a bit).

I can see the Great Lakes Eatery and Pub being popular as a one time place to eat, but for locals, not so much (unless you don't mind being screwed on prices and have deep pockets).  Getting off the e-way and hungry it's handy but as a regular stop for locals, don't think so.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 03, 2018, 07:11:13 AM
It appears to me the Gross is a procrastinator.  That beanery could have been open a long time ago.  Not sure if it will survive anyway.  Too many beaneries in Monroe in the first place.  Not the best neighborhood anyway.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on July 03, 2018, 07:32:16 AM
Theres' really not a neighborhood there at all.   if he has good beer and decent food it might not be a bad place with the water view.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 04, 2018, 09:53:52 AM
It appears to me the Gross is a procrastinator.  That beanery could have been open a long time ago.  Not sure if it will survive anyway.  Too many beaneries in Monroe in the first place.  Not the best neighborhood anyway.

Bill is a 'hands on' person.  I was surprised he contracted out building the restaurant but I'm guessing he still has a lot of sweat equity involved. 

I would say he probably doesn't 'need' the cash flow from the new restaurant so hurrying to get it open is not an issue for him. 

Theres' really not a neighborhood there at all.   if he has good beer and decent food it might not be a bad place with the water view.

It's definitely close enough to I-75 to bring in some traffic too. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 04, 2018, 10:05:42 AM
It appears to me the Gross is a procrastinator.  That beanery could have been open a long time ago.  Not sure if it will survive anyway.  Too many beaneries in Monroe in the first place.  Not the best neighborhood anyway.

There's always room in Monroe (or anyplace else probably) for a place that serves great food and has great service. 

Only time will tell if he qualifies on either or both of these.  He definitely has a unique location and if you're into sitting out on the patio on a day like this then that will be a plus I suppose. 

The 'better' places will survive and the others will slowly roll over and die!!!

You don't need real deep pockets in Monroe to open a 'beanery'.  Lots of vacant space 'for lease' and several of them have existing restaurant equipment already installed.  For a lot of these places I think one of their largest costs is their 'coming soon' sign or banner.

Now, consistently putting out great food with great service is a different story.  An owner being personally involved in the day to day operation goes a long way to make that happen. 

And if not then the place struggles along for a bit and then closes and 6 months later someone else 'takes the plunge'!!!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on July 04, 2018, 01:11:38 PM
Pretty amazing that some can read negative into an article and post a jump to a conclusion statement that is not necessarily correct.  Trump is right......some folks just love to fall for fake news before researching and inserting foot in mouth.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 04, 2018, 09:51:17 PM
Pretty amazing that some can read negative into an article and post a jump to a conclusion statement that is not necessarily correct.  Trump is right......some folks just love to fall for fake news before researching and inserting foot in mouth.

Don't know about fake news.  Been watching the continual saga of the quarry for years now.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 04, 2018, 09:54:50 PM
My guess is that a lot of the 'older' people that still remember the somewhat mysterious loss of the nuclear submarine Thresher may not want to flock to it.

Does the staff wear a B&D themed outfit?
  Don't know.  Never patronized it,  Dundee is like Monroe concerning resturants.  Lots of them.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 04, 2018, 09:58:47 PM
Stopped by Cabelas and paid my Cabelas bill the other day and was talking to Ed, behind the counter.  He told me the Social House is pretty good and has reasonable prices and he agreed with me that the Great Lakes Eatery and Pub's prices were way out of line.  50 bucks for 2 burgers and no booze is out of line in my book too.

Have to try the Social House next.

Help must be tough to get in Dundee.  I see the fuel stop across from Cabelas is advertising for help, 10 bucks an hour to start.  Sign has been out front, forever.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on July 05, 2018, 08:01:53 AM
Monroe made Harbor Freight's "coming soon" list online.   Been watching it since the rumor was first posted here and they don't sit very long on that list.   I would expect they'll be open around the end of the month give or take.  They'll be in for a surprise if they open fair week LOL.   
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 05, 2018, 08:11:20 AM
I look for HF to take a solid hit from Trump's tariff's.  90% of their stuff is Chinese in manufacture.  HF is getting shrewd.  Their 20 and 25% off 'Super Coupons' aren't so super when you read the fine print.  Went the (Adrian) on the 4th for a 25% off Hercules 20 volt Li-Ion drill driver and found out the 25% off 'Super Coupon' don't apply.  Made it as far as the checkout line and left the drill there and walked out.

The regular price is good and I'll probably buy one when my DeWalt poops out, but not before.  HF might as well take their 'Super Coupons' and stick them where the sun don't shine.

I find HF to play at deceptive advertising.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 05, 2018, 08:54:48 AM
Monroe made Harbor Freight's "coming soon" list online.   Been watching it since the rumor was first posted here and they don't sit very long on that list.   I would expect they'll be open around the end of the month give or take.  They'll be in for a surprise if they open fair week LOL.

I drove by there one day last week.  They have a false facade all roughed in.  They've removed the doors from other former stores and are working on new doors at what looks like it was the entrance to Subway. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 05, 2018, 08:58:17 AM
I look for HF to take a solid hit from Trump's tariff's.  90% of their stuff is Chinese in manufacture.  HF is getting shrewd.  Their 20 and 25% off 'Super Coupons' aren't so super when you read the fine print.  Went the (Adrian) on the 4th for a 25% off Hercules 20 volt Li-Ion drill driver and found out the 25% off 'Super Coupon' don't apply.  Made it as far as the checkout line and left the drill there and walked out.

The regular price is good and I'll probably buy one when my DeWalt poops out, but not before.  HF might as well take their 'Super Coupons' and stick them where the sun don't shine.

I find HF to play at deceptive advertising.

Always remember:  The large print giveth and the fine print taketh away!!!

I saw the CEO of Snap-On Tools doing an interview and giving support to Harley Davidson and other manufacturers that sell overseas.  His main advice line was 'build it where you sell it'.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on July 05, 2018, 09:59:20 AM
Those 20% coupons have excluded a lot of stuff like tool boxes and compressors for several years now so no surprise.   My guess is as they phase in these better quality tools, and some of them are getting quite good, they are working to phasing out the huge discount coupon.    They know the value is there on the newer stuff even at "regular" price.   I bought a couple of the "pro" ratchets.   I really like them. 

Dick's coupons are just as bad.   10% off in big print.   Have to go to their web site to find that nearly every single name brand is excluded.
 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on July 05, 2018, 10:01:36 AM
Always remember:  The large print giveth and the fine print taketh away!!!

I saw the CEO of Snap-On Tools doing an interview and giving support to Harley Davidson and other manufacturers that sell overseas.  His main advice line was 'build it where you sell it'.

Except for China -  most do that!  Japanese first learned it in the auto side...

ytrewq -  Dicks  -  too political to support...    Dunhams and Cabela's and others offer the same items -  Carls Golfland too!  :)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on July 05, 2018, 10:21:43 AM
I throw Dicks stuff in the trash when it comes
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 09, 2018, 10:49:45 AM
We drove by the new Harbor Freight store yesterday.  They have the facade over the door finished and painted to match.  They now have their name up at the top and just below that there's a banner that says...

'Coming Soon'!!!

The gym has moved down the row several units and they have window covers up that match the Harbor Freight covering so HF must be going into that unit too.  The doors are still intact at the former gym.  The new sliding doors are installed at HF and they were standing wide open around 8 last night.  Looked like a flooring contractor maybe inside working. 

They've also redone all the concrete outside the entrance to where the gym was. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on July 15, 2018, 02:20:29 PM
Harbor Freight is opening around the 1st of August.   Of course the source is the Monroe News so take that with a few grains of salt.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on July 15, 2018, 05:02:35 PM
I'm glad the HF on Laskey is kind of out of my way to about anywhere.  When I go for flags I usually find something else
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 15, 2018, 10:13:59 PM
We go to the Adrian HF.  It's behind Culvers on M52 just south of 223.  We kill 2 birds with one stone.  HF and Culvers for lunch.

Culvers is so good.  I'm addicted to the Double Butter Burger loaded with onion rings and a root beer.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 15, 2018, 10:15:29 PM
Always remember:  The large print giveth and the fine print taketh away!!!

I saw the CEO of Snap-On Tools doing an interview and giving support to Harley Davidson and other manufacturers that sell overseas.  His main advice line was 'build it where you sell it'.

A good percentage of Snap-On tools are imported btw.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 15, 2018, 10:16:42 PM
I throw Dicks stuff in the trash when it comes

Never bought anything there and don't plan to.  Dicks is just that, a Dickhead.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on July 16, 2018, 07:10:43 AM
A good percentage of Snap-On tools are imported btw.

That goes.for just about every brand or item.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 16, 2018, 08:13:48 AM
That goes.for just about every brand or item.

Depends on what type of tools.  Example LS Starrett precision tools are made in USA unless otherwise stated in the catalog and you pay for that made in USA, believe me.  I think Klein Tools and Blackhawk are made here too.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 16, 2018, 08:29:32 AM
I'm glad the HF on Laskey is kind of out of my way to about anywhere.  When I go for flags I usually find something else

Part of the crew for the store opening here in Monroe will be from that store.  I talked to the cashier gal the last time I was there.  Some people had an opportunity to make a permanent transfer to Monroe and others will be brought up here as a store opening team. 

There is paper blocking the view through the windows in the new store now so hard to tell what stage they're in.  We saw the floor covering truck there a week ago Saturday or Sunday and they were working late.  After that they could work on shelving and then finally stocking the shelves.  Both of those will require more workers.   At some point before they open they'll have the new hires going through some training with the current employees. 

Sounds like their opening and Fair Week are going to collide.  I'll stay away from both!!! 

I may go to the fair one day and that will be on their veterans day.  Always nice to see and talk to some of those 'old guys' who served. 

HF will have to be having a really big sale to get me in there the first week or two though.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on July 16, 2018, 10:08:45 AM
Harbor Freight is ALWAYS having a "REALLY BIG BLOWOUT SALE" :D
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 16, 2018, 10:11:44 AM
Harbor Freight is ALWAYS having a "REALLY BIG BLOWOUT SALE" :D

I wonder if they'll have a 'prices going up' sale when tariffs start impacting prices?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 16, 2018, 09:38:15 PM
We both had to go to the doctor in Dundee this afternoon so we went early and had lunch at the Coney Island.  The have a new owner and have actually increased the size of their portions.  Everything was good as usual plus more to eat. 

There is a new Goodwill store right next door that wasn't there the last time we were in for lunch.  We sat in the front window so we could see how much traffic was going in and out of the Goodwill store.  A couple of the Goodwill blue shirts came over to the Coney Island for carry out while we were there too so that's probably helping them. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 16, 2018, 09:40:06 PM
A new (old) tugboat for the Port of Monroe plus some future ship repair being relocated here from Cleveland.

I'm going to post this article in history too since it gives some good history on the Port.

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20180715/port-of-monroe-signs-accord-for-towing-services (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20180715/port-of-monroe-signs-accord-for-towing-services)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 16, 2018, 10:09:24 PM
I wonder if they'll have a 'prices going up' sale when tariffs start impacting prices?

Learned the hard way at HF.  One needs to read the fine print on their coupons.  Wanted a new cordless drill and the coupon don't cover any of the 'brands' just the generic stuff.  I walked out without the drill.  Pizz on them.  My next one will be a DeWalt.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 16, 2018, 10:12:17 PM
We both had to go to the doctor in Dundee this afternoon so we went early and had lunch at the Coney Island.  The have a new owner and have actually increased the size of their portions.  Everything was good as usual plus more to eat. 

There is a new Goodwill store right next door that wasn't there the last time we were in for lunch.  We sat in the front window so we could see how much traffic was going in and out of the Goodwill store.  A couple of the Goodwill blue shirts came over to the Coney Island for carry out while we were there too so that's probably helping them.

Are you talking about the Coney Island next to the Chinese place on Waterstradt or the one in town?  The one on Waterstradt was / is owned by a couple in Ottawa Lake.

Never had any issue with the portions or the food at the one next to the Chinese place (which by the way has also changed hands).

The one in town....  Not so good.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 16, 2018, 10:13:31 PM
A new (old) tugboat for the Port of Monroe plus some future ship repair being relocated here from Cleveland.

I'm going to post this article in history too since it gives some good history on the Port.

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20180715/port-of-monroe-signs-accord-for-towing-services[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20180715/port-of-monroe-signs-accord-for-towing-services[/url])


I worked for the parent company when I was a young'in in Cleveland.  Where I worked on the Fitz and other lakes boats.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 16, 2018, 10:16:07 PM
Part of the crew for the store opening here in Monroe will be from that store.  I talked to the cashier gal the last time I was there.  Some people had an opportunity to make a permanent transfer to Monroe and others will be brought up here as a store opening team. 

There is paper blocking the view through the windows in the new store now so hard to tell what stage they're in.  We saw the floor covering truck there a week ago Saturday or Sunday and they were working late.  After that they could work on shelving and then finally stocking the shelves.  Both of those will require more workers.   At some point before they open they'll have the new hires going through some training with the current employees. 

Sounds like their opening and Fair Week are going to collide.  I'll stay away from both!!! 

I may go to the fair one day and that will be on their veterans day.  Always nice to see and talk to some of those 'old guys' who served. 

HF will have to be having a really big sale to get me in there the first week or two though.

CL and I will be going to the Rodeo at the fair.  The guy that puts it on, is our farrier and I sell him round bales.  Shiloh Walden.  Good kid.  Lost Nation Rodeo Company.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 17, 2018, 08:25:54 AM
Are you talking about the Coney Island next to the Chinese place on Waterstradt or the one in town?  The one on Waterstradt was / is owned by a couple in Ottawa Lake.

Never had any issue with the portions or the food at the one next to the Chinese place (which by the way has also changed hands).

The one in town....  Not so good.

Yes, the one on Waterstradt.  We brought our lunch home and finished it for dinner. 

We've had breakfast at the downtown coney but it's been a few years.  It was ok.  Nothing spectacular or terrible. 

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 17, 2018, 04:26:21 PM
That one has killer onion rings and their Club sandwich is over the top too.  Breakfast is so so.  Burgers are good too and prices are good to excellent.  Unlike the Great Lakes Eatery.  They have gold prices, IOW over the top price wise.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on July 31, 2018, 08:33:58 AM
Harbor Freight is now open. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 31, 2018, 11:47:49 AM
Harbor Freight is now open.

Schmid's revenue just increased....
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on July 31, 2018, 01:21:18 PM
Harbor Freight is now open.

I stopped at McDonald's Sunday and drove out that way when I left.  No big signs saying open but I did see a couple of people walking out carrying stuff.  They do have a big sign up for one of their parking lot sales sometime in August.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on July 31, 2018, 08:42:37 PM
Yesterday there was a Now Open sign up next to the door.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on August 01, 2018, 07:11:05 PM
And even though Harbor Freight just opened....  I am sure they are having the first of many everything must go sales this weekend.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on August 01, 2018, 10:22:19 PM
Of course.   Posted in a huge banner on their web site.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on August 02, 2018, 08:32:11 AM
Fin Feather Fur Outfitters opening in Rossford today.  Never heard of them.  By the ad it looks to be another Cabelas type.   It must be in the area of Bass Pro off I75.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on August 02, 2018, 08:56:10 PM
Makes total sense to open another outdoor outfitter so close to Bass Pro.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 02, 2018, 10:47:23 PM
Fin Feather Fur Outfitters opening in Rossford today.  Never heard of them.  By the ad it looks to be another Cabelas type.   It must be in the area of Bass Pro off I75.

They are a Akron / Canton based outfit.  I've traveled from here to their store in Ashland, Ohio to buy propellant and primers.  They have good prices always.  Much cheaper than Bass Pro or Cabelas.

They are at Camp Perry every year as ell.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 02, 2018, 10:50:14 PM
And even though Harbor Freight just opened....  I am sure they are having the first of many everything must go sales this weekend.

Every thing must go and what don't gets restocked for the next 'everything must go' sale.  If they have something on sale I want, I buy it.  Like the free batteries, haven't bought batteries in a long time, at least AAA and AA.

I'd say about 30% of their stuff is good and 70 percent is junk
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 03, 2018, 09:16:38 AM
Every thing must go and what don't gets restocked for the next 'everything must go' sale.  If they have something on sale I want, I buy it.  Like the free batteries, haven't bought batteries in a long time, at least AAA and AA.

I'd say about 30% of their stuff is good and 70 percent is junk

I'd guess that's a fair assessment. 

We were working on a floor in Florida and I realize I needed to cut the floor along the very front of the cabinets and that meant either but a special saw (I still don't remember the name) or take out the cabinets and use the saw I already had with me.  HF had the saw I needed.  It saved me way more time than what it cost.  Under $100 I remember but don't remember if I bought the extended warranty or not.  Probably I didn't because I figure it was a one time use tool.

I stopped into the new store yesterday but didn't take time to look around much.  It looked pretty much like every other HF store I've ever been in.  I had a 1/2" ratchet that I had bought in a set just to carry in the toolbox when we're traveling.  Their ratchets and sockets look great but the ratchet mechanisms doesn't work as smooth as most ratchets or especially a Snap-On.  There is also a 1/4 and 3/8" ratchet and they worked  good enough to get the job done but when I finally got around to using the 1/2" one it would only turn one way.  Worked good for disassembly but not worth a darn for putting anything back together.

I took it in yesterday to see if they would either fix it or replace it.  When I walked in there was some 'old guy' greeting people.  He said  he would take care of it and suggested I go 'look around'.  I explained I didn't have a lot of time and also that if I 'looked around' I'd end up buying something  didn't need. 

He had gone and told a young gal about the ratchet and she showed him where they were and hot to 'exchange' it.  They ended up opening a new set of sockets and robbing the one out of there.  She was obviously the trainer and he was obviously the trainee.  Looked like most of the staff there were working in similar pairs.  They should all be up to speed by the time of their parking lot sale.

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 03, 2018, 10:05:02 AM
A toe kick saw!  This is the one I bought in Florida and it worked great and did exactly what they said it would do.  I had one inside corner that it left a little material but a chisel and mallet made short work of that one spot. 

Current price is $69.99 unless you have a magic coupon ;) ;) ;)

3-3/8" Blade Toe-Kick Saw #94626 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEdLWBTp4Ws#)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on August 03, 2018, 04:44:19 PM
Those cushion grip ratchets they sell are pretty damn nice for even twice the regular price, but on sale with a 20 or 25% off coupon they are a steal.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 03, 2018, 05:04:03 PM
Problem with most HF power tools is you can 'let the smoke out' pretty easy and the trademarked stuff is rarely on sale.  I bought an Icon 1/2" drive torque wrench a couple months ago.  I's a nice wrench and it was a hundred bucks.  I like their L=Ion cordless drills but I've read some negative reviews about them, think I'll stick with DeWalt for now.

I did buy a hydraulic gear puller last year that is absolutely fantastic.  I use it to pull frozen brake discs off.  It either pulls them or breaks the disc into 3 pieces.  Either way, it comes off.  No beating, no heating, just pump, pump, pump and wham, it lets go.  Very easy and painless.,
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on August 13, 2018, 12:36:03 PM
Something going in just to the south of UPS on Telegraph but there’s no signage to say what. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 13, 2018, 01:01:05 PM
Something going in just to the south of UPS on Telegraph but there’s no signage to say what. 

How about some more storage buildings?

When we went out to dinner Saturday for our son's birthday I ran into the man that had owned it for a couple of years up until recently.  He said the man bought it as a private party (as opposed to an LLC or Corporation) and never stated what he intended to do with it but he had heard 'through the grapevine' that it was another set of storage buildings.  Our oldest daughter was there and I asked her about it and she said she was looking it over last week and it looks like it might be storage buildings. 

I did read the sign too but it's only about the builder and project manager and nothing about the project itself.

At least they don't have 'Coming Soon' sign up already :o :o :o
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on August 14, 2018, 07:37:27 AM
Well its the same builder that did all the expansion at the storage place across the street.   They are pretty well land locked so maybe they are expanding across the street?

Why do people have so much crap to store?
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 14, 2018, 09:27:10 AM
Well its the same builder that did all the expansion at the storage place across the street.   They are pretty well land locked so maybe they are expanding across the street?

Why do people have so much crap to store?

Some of us are definitely pack rats or hoarders.  We see too many good ideas on Pinterest or elsewhere and start the project and then never finish it because we've seen something else we want to do.  In children it's ADDA but in adults it's just everyday life.

In the commercial world Monroe is the center of 'everyone wants to be a pizza magnate' so you have a lot of pizza equipment and 'opening soon' signs that has to be stored somewhere while they're between storefronts. 

I have only ever used a storage unit one time during my business history.  When the big 'downturn' was pending about 15 years ago we were following it pretty closely and made a decision to downsize.  We had office equipment that filled 2400 square feet of office space but we managed to pack it into an 80 sq ft storage unit and a corner of my basement.  We got busy quick trying to sell the stuff so we wouldn't have to keep paying rent on the storage unit.  We finally pretty well had to give the stuff away because we weren't the only other people in the process of downsizing at the time.  We were there for 3 or 4 months and it helped us out.

When our son was in the process of buying a home a couple of years ago he rented a unit about halfway between the new home and the old one and he started moving seasonal items and spare stuff to the storage unit.  That gave him room to make the old home 'show' much better and his stuff was already halfway 'home'.  It cut back on the rush, rush, rush at closing on both homes. 

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 14, 2018, 10:14:25 AM
Well its the same builder that did all the expansion at the storage place across the street.  They are pretty well land locked so maybe they are expanding across the street?

Why do people have so much crap to store?

That would make sense.  They could easily operate both units from one location. 

Years ago in Atlanta (GA not northern MI) my uncle operated two service stations on one main corner diagonally across the street from each other.  One was a Pure and eventually Union 76 and the other was a Texaco station.  They actually serviced vehicles and didn't just sell gasoline...   what a concept!!!  He would wear a grey service uniform without either decal but it did have his name on it above the pocket.  He had a 'cap' with each brands logo and he would walk between the stations all day long.  I never once saw him forget to swap caps as he reached the halfway mark on his walk.  Of course, no cell phones to distract him then...  but I suppose with cell phones he probably could have stayed home and ran the two stations up to a point.

There's a new storage business on the east side of Dundee at 5 corners.  I was in the area and reading their info one day last week.  They apparently operate completely online.  You can pick out your unit from a chart online and pay with a card.  Then it looks like they send you a password or number for the keyboard at the gate which gets you in and out.  I'm guessing you have to provide your own padlock but I didn't actually get that far. 

The internet has definitely taken 'human interaction' out of some business plans. 

I could sit around the house in my underwear all day if I operated like that 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on August 14, 2018, 10:23:29 AM
"I could sit around the house in my underwear all day if I operated like that 8) 8) 8)"

I don't know if we'd want to see that.

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 15, 2018, 07:20:02 AM
"I could sit around the house in my underwear all day if I operated like that 8) 8) 8)"

I don't know if we'd want to see that.

LOL...

yes, there are some things we don't want to see on the internet!

Well its the same builder that did all the expansion at the storage place across the street.   They are pretty well land locked so maybe they are expanding across the street?

Why do people have so much crap to store?

The fact it's the same builder is probably a pretty good indicator.  When I have some time I'll see if I can find the deed in the RofD records and tie it to anywhere else.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 17, 2018, 11:03:15 AM
Well its the same builder that did all the expansion at the storage place across the street.   They are pretty well land locked so maybe they are expanding across the street?

Why do people have so much crap to store?

While MT was 'down' last night I had time to look up about the new 'storage yard' on Telegraph.  Not only the same owner of the lot next to UPS and the units across the road but they also have a facility up on Telegraph in Berlin Township.  I have all the addresses open on the laptop but I'm not on it right now. 

Easy to trace the LTD corp back to Jackson but the address is to a law office on Jackson street so not much of a clue of the people behind the corporation.  It is interesting though that the register of deeds shows three different corporate names on the new facility next to UPS!  I'll post the details later. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 17, 2018, 08:02:51 PM
Well its the same builder that did all the expansion at the storage place across the street.   They are pretty well land locked so maybe they are expanding across the street?

Why do people have so much crap to store?

Here's what I found in the online public records.  The tax records still isn't showing an address (I'd guess Monroe Charter township has assigned one by now but it takes a long time sometimes for the records to all 'merge' together).  I verified that the property is adjacent to UPS because it has a similar parcel ID number with the last two digits being consecutive. 

UPS's parcel:

Quote
Address
Reference #
Name
 
15400 S TELEGRAPH RD   12 020 021 53 (Parcel Number)   BT-OH LLC   
15400 S TELEGRAPH RD   12 300 814 00 (Parcel Number)   UPS   **Personal Property

Fernco Development LTD owned properties in Monroe County.  Note the top one is in area 03 which I'm sure is Berlin Township.  My cheat sheet is on my phone and it's on the charger right now.  The parcel with no address is where the construction is happening and you can see the parcel ID number is just one digit more than the UPS parcel next door. 

Quote
Name
Reference #
Address
 
FERNCO DEVELOPMENT LTD   03 006 099 00 (Parcel Number)   14701 TELEGRAPH RD   
FERNCO DEVELOPMENT LTD   12 020 021 54 (Parcel Number)   S TELEGRAPH RD   
FERNCO DEVELOPMENT LTD   12 020 089 00 (Parcel Number)   15441 S TELEGRAPH RD   
FERNCO DEVELOPMENT LTD   12 300 101 00 (Parcel Number)   15441 S TELEGRAPH RD   **Personal Property

The Register of Deeds info showing the multiple corporate names had crashed.  I had left it open way too long apparently.  They seem to have registered all 3 names but also appear to only be operating under the one name in Monroe County.  A google search gave me the Jackson address but it appears they have used an attorney to register the paperwork which means it takes a little more detective work to sometimes still not find who the filing parties are. 

Google info for 404 S Jackson.  Draw your own conclusions.

https://www.google.com/search?q=404+S+Jackson+St.%2C+Jackson+MI&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS749US749&oq=404+S+Jackson+St.%2C+Jackson+MI&aqs=chrome..69i57.11383j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=404+S+Jackson+St.%2C+Jackson+MI&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS749US749&oq=404+S+Jackson+St.%2C+Jackson+MI&aqs=chrome..69i57.11383j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Monroe Native on August 17, 2018, 08:17:02 PM
There is a big parking lot sale at Harbor Freight this weekend.

This only happens like 20 or so times a year

Don't miss out!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on August 25, 2018, 05:59:27 PM
Maybe I missed it but whats the new construction just North of  Meijer
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on August 25, 2018, 06:08:21 PM
Maybe a pizza joint
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 25, 2018, 07:00:28 PM
I posted a couple of days ago about someone tearing down the old gas station / current fireworks store at the corner of Luna Pier Road and the Dixie down in Erie Township.  My wife saw on Facebook that it's going to be a Dollar General store.

Our son heard through the grapevine that there was a Dollar General store going in the little grocery store on the south side of Ida.

Maybe I missed it but whats the new construction just North of  Meijer

I haven't seen anything about it.  We were by there one day last week and I didn't even notice anything going on.  We were heading north so maybe I just missed it.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: blue2 on August 25, 2018, 07:18:19 PM
Doesn't seem to be many homes around that site for a DG. I did hear that DG wants to have a store for every 10,000 people
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 25, 2018, 07:46:20 PM
Doesn't seem to be many homes around that site for a DG. I did hear that DG wants to have a store for every 10,000 people

They've been trying for a couple of years to get one into Erie (DG, not the Erie residents).  The residents kept opposing it at all the public meetings for various reasons but many feel it will hurt the business at the little grocery store in Erie.  DG wanted to be right next door.  Now they'll be up the road a mile but they're also only a couple of miles from Luna Pier and I-75. 

We don't go to any of the dollar places very often but when we're camping there is quite often one in the area.  We can usually find something that will work for what we need. 

There's another DG across from the Kroger store at the south end of the city of Monroe which is probably within 7-8 miles. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on August 25, 2018, 11:10:49 PM
Not sure it's DG but they're trying to put one in Maybee and theres one going in in front of Plum Grove on M-50.
Seems like they're building way too many of them and then they'll be a big spate of abandoned Dollar stores. Just like auto parts stores and pharmacies. I don't understand how so much competition doesn't cause them all to fail at some point.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 26, 2018, 06:42:32 AM
Not sure it's DG but they're trying to put one in Maybee and theres one going in in front of Plum Grove on M-50.
Seems like they're building way too many of them and then they'll be a big spate of abandoned Dollar stores. Just like auto parts stores and pharmacies. I don't understand how so much competition doesn't cause them all to fail at some point.


Interesting you mentioned pharmacies and auto parts stores.  Reminds me of Perry Drugs and Perry Auto back in the 80s.  They were a Michigan company and got into one of these 'growth' modes.  They were attracting investors and borrowing heavily and everyone was happy because they were 'growing'.  No immediate returns expected because they all figured on making a killing down the road.  They were probably paying the interest with the new money they were borrowing.   The people at the top were making tons of money and so were the builders and developers.  They had no idea how to run a business to make profits but rather only how to maintain it in a 'growth mode'.  Eventually money got too expensive to borrow and the whole thing collapsed.

I don't know if they are taking business from WalMart or each other but it does seem like they have to be close to a saturation point. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 27, 2018, 08:09:49 PM
Maybe I missed it but whats the new construction just North of  Meijer

If you mean just north of Wally World that's where we decided the new Kay Jewelry is moving.  Someone had posted at one time they were supposed to be open October 1st.  I suppose it may still be possible but they're going to have to hustle. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on August 27, 2018, 09:01:02 PM
Yes thats probably it. I know they brought in a huge pile of stone for the pad so I hope they bought the land cheap !!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 28, 2018, 05:51:52 AM
Yes thats probably it. I know they brought in a huge pile of stone for the pad so I hope they bought the land cheap !!

Last night it looked like an elevated helipad.  It's all leveled and squared off and sitting probably 5-6 feet above the surrounding grade. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: halo_girl on August 28, 2018, 07:24:45 AM
I can hardly wait to see how that new jewelry store location is going to work with entrances/exits being where it is.  That whole section is already a mess with traffic and the Murphy gas station right there; signs say NO left turn out of the one driveway and every day, there are people turning LEFT out of the gas station driveway.  You have no turn arrow (at least right now) to turn into Wally World entrance and now you are going to have another business on the corner?? Should be very interesting
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on August 28, 2018, 07:34:34 AM
And according to the site plan in the leasing ad, no driveway connection to be able to use the light.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 28, 2018, 07:42:51 AM
I can hardly wait to see how that new jewelry store location is going to work with entrances/exits being where it is.  That whole section is already a mess with traffic and the Murphy gas station right there; signs say NO left turn out of the one driveway and every day, there are people turning LEFT out of the gas station driveway.  You have no turn arrow (at least right now) to turn into Wally World entrance and now you are going to have another business on the corner?? Should be very interesting

I'm guessing the jewelry store won't have any direct entrance to Telegraph once the construction is finished.  Google maps shows the 'drive' by Murphy as 'Mall Road'.  At some point it may extend east clear back to the railroad tracks if they can find enough businesses to buy or least a site back there.  Only time will tell on that one. 

Many of the traffic issues you pointed out are not going to stop no matter what happens along that stretch.  We had only lived here a few weeks and my wife had been driving in Monroe...  probably grocery shopping.  When I got home from work and we were talking she commented that 'people in this town drive crazy'...   we've been here 34 years and the drivers have gotten worse (in my opinion) instead of better. 

As the tax revenue falls from the 3 power plants maybe the county and city can recover part of the gravy by actually citing people for their obvious infractions. 

There are about 3 or 4 of those 'no left turns' along that stretch of Telegraph.  I see at least one driver turning left anyway on every trip I make out that way.  Stewart and Telegraph is the highest crash count intersection in the county for a reason.  The new 'double left' off west bound Stewart helps but there are drivers that don't know how to stay in their own left turn lane until they have actually finished the turn.  I guess they figure the lane markers are just a 'starting point'!

The thing with the no left signs is they also have the entrance to Telegraph 'curbed' with concrete forcing the drivers to start a right hand turn before they can even begin to turn back to the left.  I'll bet if they had it curbed for 100 feet there would be people that would get to the end of the merge lane and then turn left across all 5 lanes!!! 

I guess it's their own version of a 'Michigan Left'! 

Their, that's my traffic rant for the day too.  We just happened to have been to TSC last night and I saw at least one example of all of the above in the trip up and back. 

Only in Monroe!!!

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 28, 2018, 07:48:02 AM
And according to the site plan in the leasing ad, no driveway connection to be able to use the light.

I remember seeing that too.  Hopefully MDOT will eventually intervene and get that corrected.  My guess is the ownership of that lot had no relation to the ownership of the WalMart parcel.  It appears from a casual drive by that the jewelry store lot is contiguous to the Mall Road extension.  That might not be correct so then that would prevent even MDOT from being able to correct it.  MDOT does have ways of putting the 'squeeze' on other property owners though. 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: halo_girl on August 28, 2018, 08:10:53 AM
I'm guessing the jewelry store won't have any direct entrance to Telegraph once the construction is finished. 

ok so if the jewelry store is not going to have direct entrance to Telegraph then that goes back to my point of putting everything on what the map may label as "Mall Road" and I label an overglorified driveway - that whole stretch of "driveway" from the parking lot to Telegraph already gets congested when business is full in there - now we are going to have people going in and out of the jewelry store? - or am I just being dense here and missing something
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: The Fuzz on August 28, 2018, 10:10:57 AM
Doesn't seem to be many homes around that site for a DG. I did hear that DG wants to have a store for every 10,000 people

That's fairly close......I bought into them in 2012 after seeing them pop up in places where I thought sales would be good, and then did some research on their marketing strategy.

Every time I have thought about selling it takes another spike, soon will though.

https://www.google.com/search?ei=jVaFW9bzIsiLjwS114WgAg&q=dollar+general+stock+price&oq=dollar+general+sto&gs_l=psy-ab.1.1.0i131i20i264k1l2j0l8.18394.19658.0.22859.4.4.0.0.0.0.91.320.4.4.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.4.315...0i131k1j0i20i264k1.0.J6IJyX0nhVs (https://www.google.com/search?ei=jVaFW9bzIsiLjwS114WgAg&q=dollar+general+stock+price&oq=dollar+general+sto&gs_l=psy-ab.1.1.0i131i20i264k1l2j0l8.18394.19658.0.22859.4.4.0.0.0.0.91.320.4.4.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.4.315...0i131k1j0i20i264k1.0.J6IJyX0nhVs)

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on August 28, 2018, 01:06:13 PM
DG will probably do well out on M50.   Lots of traffic goes by there and there's nothing convenient on that side of town for the kinds of stuff they sell.   A gas station in that area would probably do quite well too.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 28, 2018, 03:16:13 PM
ok so if the jewelry store is not going to have direct entrance to Telegraph then that goes back to my point of putting everything on what the map may label as "Mall Road" and I label an overglorified driveway - that whole stretch of "driveway" from the parking lot to Telegraph already gets congested when business is full in there - now we are going to have people going in and out of the jewelry store? - or am I just being dense here and missing something

I'm seeing you have some valid concerns halo_girl. 

I very honestly have never been even in the parking lot at WalMart until this morning.  We just don't shop there when we're home although we occasionally get trapped into going there when we're in Florida as the towns are much smaller and there are frequently just no alternative places to shop without driving literally sometimes a hundred miles.  Not real populate where we go except for other 'snowbirds'. 

I took some pictures which I'll post later but I better get going to help my wife right now. 

What I did see is that there is a very narrow (maybe 30-40 feet at Telegraph) natural wetland between the Jewelry store and the Murphy gas station.  Looking at what all is behind Murphy I have to think someone was very fortunate to have been able to shoehorn even the Murphy station in where they did and the Jewelry store location is almost unbelievable.  I've worked for years to get parcels that were much less 'wetland' looking approved for building and never made it.

However, I will still add that if there is one entity at the state level that can override building (in this case a road or driveway) it is MDOT.  If something is for the 'public benefit' a lot of rules can be waived.  By any logic I-75 should have been built about 15 miles more to the west to avoid destroying miles and miles and miles of wetlands.  Major wetlands, not little spotty ones like is beside WalMart. 

There was actually a 'wetland maintenance' service there working while we were there.  I didn't realize there was any such business.  I thought mother nature took care of her own wetlands. 

Ok, more later on what I sat and observed in 15 minutes.

Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: halo_girl on August 28, 2018, 04:14:44 PM
I'm seeing you have some valid concerns halo_girl. 

I very honestly have never been even in the parking lot at WalMart until this morning.  We just don't shop there when we're home although we occasionally get trapped into going there when we're in Florida as the towns are much smaller and there are frequently just no alternative places to shop without driving literally sometimes a hundred miles.  Not real populate where we go except for other 'snowbirds'. 

I took some pictures which I'll post later but I better get going to help my wife right now. 

What I did see is that there is a very narrow (maybe 30-40 feet at Telegraph) natural wetland between the Jewelry store and the Murphy gas station.  Looking at what all is behind Murphy I have to think someone was very fortunate to have been able to shoehorn even the Murphy station in where they did and the Jewelry store location is almost unbelievable.  I've worked for years to get parcels that were much less 'wetland' looking approved for building and never made it.

However, I will still add that if there is one entity at the state level that can override building (in this case a road or driveway) it is MDOT.  If something is for the 'public benefit' a lot of rules can be waived.  By any logic I-75 should have been built about 15 miles more to the west to avoid destroying miles and miles and miles of wetlands.  Major wetlands, not little spotty ones like is beside WalMart. 

There was actually a 'wetland maintenance' service there working while we were there.  I didn't realize there was any such business.  I thought mother nature took care of her own wetlands. 

Ok, more later on what I sat and observed in 15 minutes.

I very much look forward to your observations and glad to see that I do have valid concerns.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 28, 2018, 06:25:35 PM
I very much look forward to your observations and glad to see that I do have valid concerns.

What I did not see there this morning was any sign of a curb cut or any survey stakes or anything that looked like anyone was making any prep whatsoever for the jewelry store to be putting in any access to what we'll continue to call the Mall Road 'extension' for now.  That may not be any such extension but only that Google maps picked it us as such just because it lines up with Mall Road across Telegraph.  Google doesn't have a lot of human input but rather they let computers pick out what looks like it may be a road.  I've seen lots of errors in the past including where there were clearly roads but Google maps doesn't think there should be so they don't show it as a road. 

However, any road work may not happen until they're doing the parking lot and they typically do that late in the project to keep the truck traffic from tearing it all up. 

I am guessing that the strip of what appears to be wetlands is owned by whoever is building the jewelry store building.  WalMart (or whoever owns the property) has their ponds fenced and also the wetlands where we could see at least two guys out with backpack sprayers working.  They had a big trailer that may or may not have held some equipment.  We didn't see or hear anything running but they could have been back by the railroad tracks or maybe even clear over on the other side of the building.  Everything would line up nice and straight so that is one reason I think it belongs to the jewelry store. 

My guess is maybe MDOT or Frenchtown (not sure who may or may not be enforcing any ingress and egress issues) (most like it's MDOT since it's a state or US marked route) will let them open and then do another traffic study.  They'll check and see how many crashes happen and how many people get killed trying to turn left even though it will probably be another one that will be clearly marked 'no left turn'.  We know way too many people in Monroe (and surrounding areas) have reading comprehension issues...  even with just 3 short words!!! 

It their study determines they need to improve the re-entry onto southbound Telegraph (a left hand turn out of the jewelry store) then an option may be to bridge or culvert or maybe even just fill the wetland.  I didn't see any 'connection' wetlands across Telegraph.  We even went into Verizon while we were there and I had a chance to get a good look.  There is also a little creek only a couple of hundred yards north of there that crosses Telegraph so who knows what may or may not be wetlands on the Kohl's parcel. 

I definitely see the potential for issues if there is additional traffic entering from the jewelry store.  Obviously there will be a lot less traffic coming from the jewelry store than there is attempting to exit WalMart.  We were there between 10 and 11 am and I'm guessing that is not 'prime time' for people exiting the parking lot.  At one point I counted 12 vehicles lined up to turn left.  Of course it is typical Monroe...   the light turns green and the first car jumps like a rabbit and the car behind them is so busy on their cell phone they don't move for several seconds and the next 4 or 5 cars all jump and go but by then there's another driver that appears to be asleep at the wheel!!!   Finally all 12 did get through before the light turned green but a dozen would be about the max number I'd guess.  I know some of the MDOT intersections now use lasers to tell when traffic clears or they have a max time set and just adjust it down when traffic clears.  If I sat there for a while and watched I could probably figure it out but right now I'm not that interested. 

I am not a traffic engineer although I have worked on several parcels that had state road access and it's always an extra PITA.  Then when it's in Frenchtown it's even more complicated usually (Ok, Maverick...  Always!).  The interesting thing is you can have almost the same issue on 3 parcels in 3 jurisdictions and on 3 different state roads and MDOT will come up with 3 different 'solutions'! 

My guess is that in the event MDOT forces the jewelry store onto the Mall Road Extension then one option would be to reconfigure Mall road to have a double left turn lane like Stewart has.  Looks like there's enough room to do that.  If MDOT allows the jewelry store to make right turn or north bound entrance onto Telegraph then that would require a lot fewer cars to enter Mall Road but my guess is that a few wills till go out and turn left no matter what is posted.  The simple answer for that is to just not allow a drive for either direction and make everyone enter and leave from Mall Road. 

Keep an eye and if you see them start putting up survey stakes or cutting the curb then you can figure they're going to have at least part of the traffic leaving the jewelry store that direction. 

Time will eventually tell the story.  Maybe that parcel isn't wetlands but it is definitely 'low lands' and that often means wetlands.  It sure appears to be wetlands on the WalMart parcel where it's fenced. 

I'll have to do pictures later but they won't clear up your concerns any.  They may make it easier to understand what I 'saw' though.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: halo_girl on August 28, 2018, 07:15:10 PM
BRD - thank you so much for your views and observations on the whole Jewelry store subject.  Just to clarify when I speak of left turn I am not referring to left turns onto Telegraph itself.
 While it would be nice to have a turn arrow from southbound Telegraph into that "extension" I am referring to the Murphy driveway that is closest to Telegraph.  They have a total of 3 in/out driveways, the one closest to Telegraph and on that one it states NO LEFT TURN out of that one; there is one in the middle and then the one off the main parking lot area - both of those you can go either way you want.
 Any day we go there, you will always see at least one car in that very first driveway waiting to turn left to go back towards Telegraph. Yes the weekday hours of 10a - 11am would not be the prime hours for traffic there for sure.  Try being there either during the week on what would be considered "rush hour" (always get a laugh out of that term) or mid-morning thru the rest of the day on a weekend.  It can get to be a nightmare with in and out traffic. And yes we have often dealt with the ones that either take too long because they aren't paying attention or whatever there reason.  It definitely will be interesting to see how all of this plays out.  I want to thank you for a very courteous and respectful conversation on this - it is much appreciated.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: ytrewq on August 29, 2018, 07:50:25 AM
Like I said, the siteplan used in the lease ad doesn't show one but that could have changed.   It shows one of those "pretty please don't make a left" drives for one drive but not the other.

http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/N-Telegraph-Rd-Mall-Road-Monroe-MI/12233562/ (http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/N-Telegraph-Rd-Mall-Road-Monroe-MI/12233562/)

BTW, someone knocked down the no left sign in the little island at the Starbucks exit.   From what I've seen some targeted enforcement would be profitable at Starbucks and Walmart.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 29, 2018, 08:18:36 AM
Like I said, the siteplan used in the lease ad doesn't show one but that could have changed.   It shows one of those "pretty please don't make a left" drives for one drive but not the other.

[url]http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/N-Telegraph-Rd-Mall-Road-Monroe-MI/12233562/[/url] ([url]http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/N-Telegraph-Rd-Mall-Road-Monroe-MI/12233562/[/url])

BTW, someone knocked down the no left sign in the little island at the Starbucks exit.   From what I've seen some targeted enforcement would be profitable at Starbucks and Walmart.


Do not ever put much faith in and advertisement you see for anything and especially for anything related to real estate.  I see one huge glaring mistake in the very beginning of the Loopnet ad...

SEC...   The only meaning I can come up with I'm sure is not 'South East Conference' however it could possibly be the listing agent's abbreviation for 'south east corner'...

except the parcel is on the north east corner of the intersection.  If the very first word is wrong in an ad I have no reason to believe the rest of the ad will be any more accurate.

The only site plan that manners is the one on file at Frenchtown's building department...   the one with 'approved' and a date stamped on it.  What you see in that ad is someone's 'artwork' with a little cut and paste.  Probably some artwork drawn for the original developer. 

In commercial building (especially in Frenchtown) it's not 'over' until you have the occupancy permit in your hand.  I worked on a rehab project in the township a few years ago.  When the inspector showed up for the 'final' inspection he immediately pointed out that our exit lights didn't have outdoor floods connected to a backup battery.  We replied that we hadn't seen where they were required and the inspector said they just changed the ordinance a few days before that!!!

The only break we got was on our handicap parking spaces.  We had all new asphalt in the parking lot and all the proper blue striping.  We had even ordered nice new signs to be posted at eye level immediately in front of the designated space.  Two spaces means two sign!  One of our signs had been back ordered and was being shipped from another warehouse.  Since one sign was properly posted we were given a 'waiver' for a few days and allowed to open!  The building was our private trade association office and we had no known members at the time that required a designated parking space. 

I assume that the building file at Frenchtown is subject to FOIA requests.  Go in and fill out the paperwork and they'll probably let you look through the file.  But, again, what you would see there could still be subject to changes until there is an occupancy permit. 

The old saying "it's not over until that lady sings" is often attributed to sporting events but it really came from people working with their local building departments!!!
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 29, 2018, 08:48:32 AM
Hard to believe but by Oct 1st this is supposed to be a jewelry store.  This is looking north from the Murphy Gas Station parking lot.  Unfortunately it's hard to see just how much fill has been put under the gravel pad.  Note the old pieces of concrete that have been pushed back into the pile of dirt behind the new pad.

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Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 29, 2018, 08:53:52 AM
This is the truck that was parked back behind the curb of the WalMart drive by the fenced in pond.  I could see two guys with backpack sprayers walking around way back in an area that is also fenced and appears to be wetlands.

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Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 29, 2018, 08:58:04 AM
Looking southeast.  You can see the fence around the pond and then there is more wetlands behind that.  You can see the Walmart building to the right.  The railroad tracks run behind the building but you really can't see them.  Before this was Walmart it was the site of Wickes Lumber.

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Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 29, 2018, 09:06:05 AM
Looking northwest.  You can see the new stone pad for the jewelry store.  Some power lines run along the lot line between WalMart's parcel and the jewelry store parcel. 

I spent some time studying the Google map last night and it does appear most of the low spot between the two parcels is on the WalMart lot.  When you zoom out your can pretty well distinguish the triangle shaped parcel for the jewelry store. 

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Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 30, 2018, 08:42:15 AM
I'm not sure why the photo of the door on the truck with their company name is so blurry.  My original photo was sharp as can be expected from a phone camera.  I'll try to remember to reload it when I get the chance.

Here's the website info which is why I took that picture in the first place.  I knew I wouldn't remember it 2 hours later.  I take a lot of pictures like that so I don't have to remember something later.

http://www.plantwiserestoration.com/ (http://www.plantwiserestoration.com/)


halo_girl, have you ever seen them burning any of that area in the fence like they show on the website? 
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 30, 2018, 08:55:14 AM
Lots of neat photos on their website but I did like this one.  Wow...  on their website it's a tiny little photo and on here it's huge.  Neat to see the butterfly eye though. 

We have a butterfly savanna out near the road.  We mow on both sides of it so I'm sure the neighbors wonder why we leave that little patch.  It's loaded with milkweed and butterfly flowers.  I didn't brush hog it down last fall and it's got some aggressive brush starting to take over.  Once the milkweed is all dry and the pods are spewing out their seeds I'll mow it all down.  We have a path through it that we do keep mowed but no one can see that.  We can walk through and get up close and personal with the butterflies. 

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Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 30, 2018, 01:56:13 PM
Let's try this again.  The only thing I can figure is I either had a computer running slow or a slow upload or something like that and the photo wasn't finished 'processing' before it got saved at Shutterfly. 

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Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: halo_girl on August 30, 2018, 03:55:17 PM

halo_girl, have you ever seen them burning any of that area in the fence like they show on the website?

BRD I can honestly say in the 20 years we have lived here and gone to that Wal-Mart since they opened, I have never seen anything like that having been done.  I will admit most of the time coming in off of that stretch I am being passenger driver and helping keep an eye out for all those that want to constantly pull out in front of somebody (or turn where they aren't supposed to) but I would think if something had been burned we would have seen some sign of it and had it been anything recent to a stop there my husband would have surely smelled something "burned"
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Maverick on August 30, 2018, 04:09:21 PM
When you build a replacement wetland you are legally required to maintain it according to an approved plan. Not many people do and the state has not been real good at enforcing the rules but a corporate entity like Was Mart probably tries to follow as many rules as they can. I assume that company was there making sure that the plan was being followed. BRD what you are referring to may be Fragmites burning. If you've ever seen one it is intense. The heat and black smoke can be seen for miles.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: BigRedDog on August 30, 2018, 06:21:45 PM
When you build a replacement wetland you are legally required to maintain it according to an approved plan. Not many people do and the state has not been real good at enforcing the rules but a corporate entity like Was Mart probably tries to follow as many rules as they can. I assume that company was there making sure that the plan was being followed. BRD what you are referring to may be Fragmites burning. If you've ever seen one it is intense. The heat and black smoke can be seen for miles.
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I've seen them burn several times but I've made it a point to go when I knew they were burning too.  The very first time I saw it I was at the outlet mall on Laplaisance and they were burning at the DNR property at Halfway Creek which is about a half mile from the state line.  I could see it like it was at Bolles Harbor.  It burns so black you'd swear it is plastic or oil burning. 

BRD I can honestly say in the 20 years we have lived here and gone to that Wal-Mart since they opened, I have never seen anything like that having been done.  I will admit most of the time coming in off of that stretch I am being passenger driver and helping keep an eye out for all those that want to constantly pull out in front of somebody (or turn where they aren't supposed to) but I would think if something had been burned we would have seen some sign of it and had it been anything recent to a stop there my husband would have surely smelled something "burned"

You'll have to drive back towards the back of the store to see where we saw the two guys working.  They had on backpack sprayers so they were most likely spraying to kill some particular plants or to kill some kind of insect.  They were too far away to see exactly what they were spraying.  The only area I saw that looked like it was something they might typically burn off is right along the railroad tracks and at the very back of the parcel.  I guess I never paid that close of attention but I don't remember it being that low out the back of the Wickes store.  We used to drive clear to the back to pick up lumber.
Title: Re: Business Openings
Post by: Professor H on September 07, 2018, 12:04:52 AM
If you mean just north of Wally World that's where we decided the new Kay Jewelry is moving.  Someone had posted at one time they were supposed to be open October 1st.  I suppose it may still be possible but they're going to have to hustle. 
Another store in the "Mall" leaving?    Can't be...

I just happened to see the construction area and wondered what in the heck they were attempting to do... 

About as piss poor location you could pick - unless they pay Wallyworld for access to the nice light