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Title: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on August 01, 2015, 11:23:26 AM
It's been available for a couple of days now...

anyone downloaded it yet?

I've been reading up on it and see some potential 'privacy' issues.  I'm not going to rush to download it right away.

Would like to hear comments from anyone that has though.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Frenchfry on August 01, 2015, 11:56:04 AM
A few weeks back I needed an OS for a new build obtained from Newegg...a shell-shocker deal, so I downloaded an evaluation copy of windows 10.

Can't say much about it yet since I've actually bypassed any interaction with it by primarily accessing the 'net via Google Chrome.

I expect my free ride on Win 10 will end soon but there's a glimmer of hope that it won't since the part that said evaluation copy seems to have disappeared.

The one thing I love about the OS is the automatic updates since I'm an update fanatic.

Hell I don't even trust that to work right so I check manually anyway.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: halo_girl on August 02, 2015, 01:23:59 PM
we did have our copies reserved but after reading up on a lot of the privacy issues and other things that we would have to find a way to "opt out of" instead of opt-in, we are not even interested in looking at it right now.  It really seems as though Microsoft pretty much wants to see every thing we do and there is nothing in way of privacy with them.  Personally we will probably start researching different operating systems.  For the time being, if it ain't broke, we ain't fixing it to suit them.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Tiny on August 02, 2015, 05:47:00 PM
Bottom Line

Given the way Windows operating systems evolve over their lifecycles, it is impossible right now to overly praise or damn Windows 10 but we can start drawing conclusions compared to the differences between it and its predecessors.

My personal feeling is that Windows 10 is an improvement on both Windows 7 and Windows 8 and in time it will be considered one of the great Microsoft releases. That said Windows 10 launches with more bugs than it should and (while Microsoft has crafted a super OS) it is also the most controlling and invasive version of Windows the company has ever released and a compromise does need to be found long term.

All of which means Windows 10 is both the best and most troubling Windows version I’ve used. Those determined to be on the cutting edge will upgrade and love it, but those more wedded to Windows 7 and Windows 8 should wait a little longer. The Windows 10 free purchase period lasts until July 29th 2016 for eligible users so there is time to see whether Microsoft can address the differences which make Windows 10 worse than its predecessors compared to those that make it shine.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/08/02/windows-10-vs-windows-8-vs-windows-7-whats-the-difference/2/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/08/02/windows-10-vs-windows-8-vs-windows-7-whats-the-difference/2/)

Sounds to me like it's fee to get you suckered in then they will charge for future upgrades etc.
Windows 10 is supposed to be the last version release with the future being just "Windows" with continuous upgrades and no more versions. They are trying to stop pirating of software and bad releases that make them look bad like "Vista"
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Professor H on August 02, 2015, 09:03:33 PM
I updated to it - no problems so far - but I don't do things on this laptop that I'm worried about someone spying on anyway...

It fixed that stupid pop-up when you scrolled on the right edge of the screen that 8 put in!   
That alone is worth it.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on August 03, 2015, 09:10:22 AM
I updated to it - no problems so far - but I don't do things on this laptop that I'm worried about someone spying on anyway...

It fixed that stupid pop-up when you scrolled on the right edge of the screen that 8 put in!   
That alone is worth it.

So, did you start with W7 and then upgrade to W8 or was it a W8 laptop.  One big feature of W8 (and now 10) is that you can use a 'touch' screen with it.  Unfortunately that's a major cost.  My laptop is originally a W7 that I've just left.  It has a pretty high end screen so would probably cost less just to wait and buy a new W10 laptop once they get the inevitable bugs out.

My desktop is originally W7 and I have a 22" monitor on that.  I'll keep my eyes open for a touch screen for it...  again, once the bugs are out of W10. 

From what I read 'if' you have W7 or 8 and you connect your computer to the internet you are going to have W10 no matter what. 

Our youngest daughter has one of the early W8 Touch all in ones and she's anxious to put W10 on it.

I can't say I'm looking forward to it but I know inevitably I'll have to deal with it...   been there a few times before ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on August 03, 2015, 09:51:23 AM
CNET folks say it takes hours to download.  I may give it a shot on the laptop someday when i'm done in the morning and let it run.
The old XT will probably crash if i try to load it.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: halo_girl on August 03, 2015, 09:56:56 AM

From what I read 'if' you have W7 or 8 and you connect your computer to the internet you are going to have W10 no matter what. 

My tablet is windows 8.1 and our two desktops are both windows 7 - all of them are on the internet and none automatically switched to W10.  Tried following the step to remove the reserve w10 icon and it seems to have worked on my desktop computer but it came back on the tablet. I am not giving them the satisfaction of switching to W10 - can guarantee we will lose too many things; hubby is especially not happy because apparently windows media player would no longer be available and he has worked too hard and too long on his music collection and a lot of his quad stuff to not be able to play that.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Frenchfry on August 03, 2015, 01:13:36 PM
My wife says her reserved Windows 10 update is ready to be scheduled...but it's not something Microsoft automatically installed without permission.

There's plenty of time to take advantage of the offer.

I had an issue with Windows 8...where Microsoft allowed me to update to 8.1...but down the road when I tried to start fresh, it wouldn't let me.

My Windows 8 disc became useless.

It required a new 8.1 disc.

I found a way around it but it wasn't easy.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Professor H on August 03, 2015, 08:36:40 PM
It didn't take long - and I have a HP Pavilion laptop (no touch screen) that started with 8 then to 8.1... and now 10.

The default settings for the microsoft stuff can be changed - as I use google chrome but the new browser is called "edge" instead of explorer. 

I like the new look so far, and it's really not that much of a difference except you don't have to click through a window to get to your area - and that annoying right left automatic window pop up has been eliminated!
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on August 03, 2015, 08:58:37 PM
Can you get a disc to load it from or are we stuck downloading
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Frenchfry on August 03, 2015, 11:02:09 PM
Can you get a disc to load it from or are we stuck downloading
Sure you can get a disc...if you buy the OS.

Updating to Windows 10 is free (via download) for those that qualify (legit installed Windows OS) but only for about a year. After that they start charging.

No point in discussing ISO files.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Monroe Native on August 09, 2015, 09:50:59 AM
So what is the verdict?

I have one laptop running on Windows 7 - I hate to mess with that one - I bought the laptop just because it had 7 on it instead of 8.

I have reserved my copy to upgrade the laptop that runs 8.1.  I got my notification I am ready to go - but I haven't told it to go yet.

I do hate how it pops up stuff at the edge of the screen though - hence why I went out and got the Windows 7 laptop!
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on August 10, 2015, 05:13:11 PM
Looks like everything is not going as planned :( :( :(

http://www.siliconbeat.com/2015/08/04/windows-10-upgrade-bug-makes-some-pcs-unusable/ (http://www.siliconbeat.com/2015/08/04/windows-10-upgrade-bug-makes-some-pcs-unusable/)

Some more things to consider about upgrading to W10:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/08/02/windows-10-vs-windows-8-vs-windows-7-whats-the-difference/?utm_campaign=yahootix&partner=yahootix (http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/08/02/windows-10-vs-windows-8-vs-windows-7-whats-the-difference/?utm_campaign=yahootix&partner=yahootix)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on August 10, 2015, 05:25:54 PM
My next computer will be Apple
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Professor H on August 16, 2015, 01:16:19 AM
I haven't noticed anything different really since the move - but then again I don't play games or video's... 
Sure is nice that I can scroll without the dumb pop up windows, and it starts at the start screen!
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on August 22, 2015, 11:15:34 AM
CNET sends out a weekly email usually a lot of good info.
http://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/whats-the-best-method-to-upgrade-from-windows-xp-to-10/?tag=nl.e497&s_cid=e497&ttag=e497&ftag=CAD5920658 (http://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/whats-the-best-method-to-upgrade-from-windows-xp-to-10/?tag=nl.e497&s_cid=e497&ttag=e497&ftag=CAD5920658)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: halo_girl on September 02, 2015, 11:35:59 AM
Well I gave Win10 a chance on my convertible laptop and as of this morning, I went back to Win8.1.  While Win10 definitely had nice features, my computer was not running as smooth - things would constantly freeze up, would act like I didn't have internet when I did, would run slow, etc.  For me and what I use the laptop for - Win10 just was not worth it.  Luckily the transition back to Win8.1 was easy and within my 30 days so I ran with it and am happy to be back to Win8.1 and already see a difference in how my computer reacts.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on September 02, 2015, 11:43:52 AM
I might like W-10 but not on my old computers running XT with no memory and the laptop w/Vista..
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on September 10, 2015, 10:26:21 AM
When I shut my desktop Win7 machine down last night I saw that there were 17 updates waiting to install.

It took a long time for it to boot up this morning with all those changes to make.  I see I'm still running Win7 but there is a 'Get Windows 10' option on my menu bar.

I also saw an article in the last few days that they will be installing some of the same 'spying' updates into Win7 and Win8 for those that don't want to install to Win10.

I'm thinking that may be what my 'updates' were last night :( :( :(
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Frenchfry on September 12, 2015, 09:00:22 AM
When I shut my desktop Win7 machine down last night I saw that there were 17 updates waiting to install.

It took a long time for it to boot up this morning with all those changes to make.  I see I'm still running Win7 but there is a 'Get Windows 10' option on my menu bar.

I also saw an article in the last few days that they will be installing some of the same 'spying' updates into Win7 and Win8 for those that don't want to install to Win10.

I'm thinking that may be what my 'updates' were last night :( :( :(
Looks like you're right

http://uncovercalifornia.com/content/25698-microsoft-automatically-downloading-windows-10-installer-windows-7-windows-881-users (http://uncovercalifornia.com/content/25698-microsoft-automatically-downloading-windows-10-installer-windows-7-windows-881-users)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on September 23, 2015, 10:13:04 AM
Since both my desktop and laptop computers now regularly greet me with 'would you like to try Windows 10' I guess it's time to take the challenge and try downloading it on one.  I'll start with the laptop since I don't use it as often (my wife does though) and there is far less info on it to back up before I try the install.  I upgraded my Google account so now I have more storage in Drive to work with.

What finally pushed me over the edge was when I read that several of the 'spying issues' that were part of Windows 10 will (or already have been) downloaded to Windows 7 and 8. 

So, if I disappear off the face of MonroeTalks you can attribute it to two crashed computers!!!
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on September 26, 2015, 07:59:32 AM
It took me a couple of days to 'back up' the photos and .pdf docs and a few other things on the laptop.  Actually took longer because I used Google Drive as a backup and it's not real fast. 

Once I finally had everything backed up the actual download of the Windows 10 package and the installation probably took around 2 hours.  The computer did have to stop and reboot several times during the installation. 

My wife managed to get on her Facebook page without any help so I guess she's good to go with it.  I really haven't tried to do anything yet but will work on that in the near future.  It doesn't look too intimidating yet so I'm thinking we'll most likely keep it and end up putting it on this desktop too. 

One of the very first steps in the installation process is to run a test to see if your machine is even compatible with Windows 10 and if it has enough memory for the installation.

At this point I can only say 'so far, so good'!
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: halo_girl on September 26, 2015, 08:46:56 AM
It took me a couple of days to 'back up' the photos and .pdf docs and a few other things on the laptop.  Actually took longer because I used Google Drive as a backup and it's not real fast. 

Once I finally had everything backed up the actual download of the Windows 10 package and the installation probably took around 2 hours.  The computer did have to stop and reboot several times during the installation. 

My wife managed to get on her Facebook page without any help so I guess she's good to go with it.  I really haven't tried to do anything yet but will work on that in the near future.  It doesn't look too intimidating yet so I'm thinking we'll most likely keep it and end up putting it on this desktop too. 

One of the very first steps in the installation process is to run a test to see if your machine is even compatible with Windows 10 and if it has enough memory for the installation.

At this point I can only say 'so far, so good'!

glad it is working out for you :-) as I said, it started out looking good on my laptop but then it started running like crap and that is so not this machine; ever since I put it back to 8.1 it runs like a champ once again.  While 10 had a lot of nice features it is not enough for me to sacrifice how the machine ultimately runs.  Please do keep us posted on your Win10 Journey :)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on September 26, 2015, 08:54:51 AM
glad it is working out for you :-) as I said, it started out looking good on my laptop but then it started running like crap and that is so not this machine; ever since I put it back to 8.1 it runs like a champ once again.  While 10 had a lot of nice features it is not enough for me to sacrifice how the machine ultimately runs.  Please do keep us posted on your Win10 Journey :)

Both of my machines started life as Windows 7 machines and I had never upgraded either.  Years ago I upgraded (at big $$$) a machine and it had issues like you mentioned.  I never degraded it but I ended up buying a new computer shortly.

Our daughter has an early Microsoft Surface Tablet and she upgraded to W10 as soon as it came out and she has really liked it.  Part of my reason to go ahead with it.

The laptop is the newer and faster of our two computers so if we have any issues I expect it will be with the older desktop.  If so it can go back to Windows 7. 
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on September 26, 2015, 10:08:30 AM
This article explains getting rid of 'some' of the default apps Windows 10 'pre' installs for your convenience :( :( :(

http://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-uninstall-default-apps-in-windows-10/ (http://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-uninstall-default-apps-in-windows-10/)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Tiny on September 28, 2015, 09:40:32 PM
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Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Frenchfry on September 28, 2015, 09:48:50 PM
Not sure if it's related to win 10 but for some reason Chrome started opening to the last visited rather than the home page I set.

I checked the settings and they were fine.

To make it work normally again, I cleared the browsing data and used Ccleaner.

Just mentioning it in case anyone else runs into the issue.

I know I said it before but I love the automatic update feature of win 10
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on September 30, 2015, 07:13:33 AM
I still haven't run into any operating issues with the Win10 updated laptop...   other than sitting and looking around a little longer sometimes trying to figure out where to go next...

Other than that just still a little concerned about the security issues.  It probably isn't any worse than what Chrome does too but I'm still keeping an eye on things.


https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/microsoft-finally-responds-accusations-windows-10-spies-users-174608523.html (https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/microsoft-finally-responds-accusations-windows-10-spies-users-174608523.html)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on October 09, 2015, 10:00:48 AM
Stumbled on this article on the upgrade process.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2990812/windows/12-irritating-windows-10-installation-issues-and-how-to-fix-them.html (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2990812/windows/12-irritating-windows-10-installation-issues-and-how-to-fix-them.html)

I didn't run into any of these that I can really say were a problem...

I know the laptop did reboot several times during the upgrade...  definitely you want to have a laptop plugged into AC. 

My wife uses the laptop more than I do most days and she hasn't complained about anything from the upgrade once she figured out how to shut it down ;) ;) ;)

I'm still working on backing up the desktop (lots more important stuff on it than the laptop).  I did end up upgrading my Google Drive storage to a paid subscription but I should still have plenty of room for the desktop info.  And some of it will be duplicate info anyway. 

Then before I do the upgrade I'm going to take the case off it and clean all the cat and dog dust out ;) ;) ;)

One of these rainy days when I can't get outside I'll get brave and hit the 'Get Windows 10' logo that is lurking on my desktop!
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on October 09, 2015, 01:25:49 PM
You might want to remove your porn stash (or any other photos of a 'personal' nature) from your machine before you start the upgrade ;D ;D ;D

https://bgr.com/2015/08/03/windows-10-porn-screensaver/
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Frenchfry on November 03, 2015, 11:03:17 AM
A few weeks back I needed an OS for a new build obtained from Newegg...a shell-shocker deal, so I downloaded an evaluation copy of windows 10.

Can't say much about it yet since I've actually bypassed any interaction with it by primarily accessing the 'net via Google Chrome.

I expect my free ride on Win 10 will end soon but there's a glimmer of hope that it won't since the part that said evaluation copy seems to have disappeared.

The one thing I love about the OS is the automatic updates since I'm an update fanatic.

Hell I don't even trust that to work right so I check manually anyway.
The insider build preview copy stamp has returned to my desktop and it appears the expiration for me will be 7/15/16.

That gives me a little time but I'm looking for the best deal out there...perhaps a retail copy.

I tried to leave another computer in the house with windows 7 just in case this one runs into any problems but while the update site listed a lot of updates...every time I tried to do it, the page went to the win 10 update site.

I tried deleting a bunch of previously installed "updates" that someone on the 'net said would stop the win 10 badgering and even modified a few win os files but nothing helped.

I finally relented and "updated" to win 10.

Sure hope I'm not sorry for doing that.  :-\
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on November 13, 2015, 08:23:07 AM
Well, Windows 10 has been around long enough that it's getting it's first major 'update' already.

Interesting especially if you had already upgraded from a Windows 7 machine:

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/massive-windows-10-could-turbo-140500938.html (https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/massive-windows-10-could-turbo-140500938.html)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on November 22, 2015, 07:35:20 PM
The latest upgrade fixed some issues but missed others:

http://www.computerworld.com/article/3005602/microsoft-windows/what-you-need-to-know-about-windows-10s-new-upgrade.html (http://www.computerworld.com/article/3005602/microsoft-windows/what-you-need-to-know-about-windows-10s-new-upgrade.html)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 22, 2015, 08:06:16 PM
I'm doing the Chrome thing now.  I like it so far.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Viper52 on November 22, 2015, 08:17:27 PM
I'm doing the Chrome thing now.  I like it so far.


Chrome has a serious security flaw.


http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/11/19/chrome-has-serious-security-flaw.html (http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/11/19/chrome-has-serious-security-flaw.html)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on November 22, 2015, 08:26:49 PM
I dumped Chrome about a year ago for Firefox but I'm ready to go back to Chrome.  I have to many problems with Firefox running off and hogging up all my computer. And then there is still the issue with Flash Player Plugin that they have not been able to solve for two years or more.  Sometimes it hogs up over 400,000k and nothing works until I kill it.
I have a 8 yr old or more Compaq running with Vista and not about to load W10.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Professor H on November 22, 2015, 10:21:00 PM
Chrome has a serious security flaw.


[url]http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/11/19/chrome-has-serious-security-flaw.html[/url] ([url]http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/11/19/chrome-has-serious-security-flaw.html[/url])


Sounds like more so on phones than PC now...   

Good news is I don't play games with either - and that seemed to be how the malware got in.
I also use maleware checking software -

No problems for my system using Windows 10 for a while now.   
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on November 22, 2015, 10:24:17 PM
yeah but i bet you have a newer computer than i do.  I'm not about to put it on a couple of old ones running XT and vista
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on November 23, 2015, 06:34:00 AM
I dumped Chrome about a year ago for Firefox but I'm ready to go back to Chrome.  I have to many problems with Firefox running off and hogging up all my computer. And then there is still the issue with Flash Player Plugin that they have not been able to solve for two years or more.  Sometimes it hogs up over 400,000k and nothing works until I kill it.
I have a 8 yr old or more Compaq running with Vista and not about to load W10.

yeah but i bet you have a newer computer than i do.  I'm not about to put it on a couple of old ones running XT and vista

Several years ago I switched to Firefox as they developed to the point where I could actually work on websites open in Ff.  Today I've found 98% of everything I have to do online I can do in Chrome.  I still have a few sites bookmarked on Firefox and use it occasionally for those but I really should get those moved over to Chrome too.

I have't been on IE for months.  The only reason I used it then was the historic aerial maps that are on the Wayne College site absolutely will not open right in Chrome or Firefox.  I keep hoping they'll eventually get something figured out but so far not a thing. 

I loved my Compaq computers...   I probably have six or eight of them in the basement on a shelf.  I should take a little time this winter and pull the hard drives out of them and take the rest of the 'carcass' to the recycling box down at the Habitat Restore.

One of them still worked pretty good and then one day I was starting it up and I heard a big 'pop' and it died...   started it up again and it started just fine and then in a few minutes I heard the 'pop' again.  I'm guessing it's the power pack and they're probably the same in all of them so I might be able to come out of the pile with one or two that would run...  but they'd be running 'ancient' windows and be slow as could be.

You might think about using them for boat anchors and upgrading to something new.

If you can live with a 'laptop' computer and Chrome will handle everything you have to do with a computer then take a look at some of the new Chromebooks.  There are several manufacturers including HP.  You can get a pretty nice machine in the $250-300 range.  Even if you only get 3-4 years out of one you'd be in pretty good shape.

I still have my Google tablet I bought in 2012 and it was working great until I did an update and it had some issues.  About the same time I got my Samsung Galaxy tablet that has a 4G data link so I didn't really fool around with the old one much more.  If I can't sleep I fire it up and I can read in bed with it...   the Galaxy is just a little too big that close to my face!!!

Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on November 23, 2015, 06:40:10 AM
Here's a pretty good guide on buying a Chromebook:

http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/chromebook-buying-advice (http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/chromebook-buying-advice)


With a Chromebook there is no 'underlying' Windows OS to mess up either.

I know some people that are taking old laptops and erasing the hard drives and then booting them with a USB thumb drive loaded with Chrome and those make for a pretty low end Chromebook although they'd still have fans and spinning hard drives that are absent in the Chromebook.

I wonder if that could be done with some of these old computers I have?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: arpydave on November 26, 2015, 04:49:35 AM
Just throwing this out there so others may be aware.

Latest Windows 10 Update Reportedly Removes Some Software Without Authorization

http://hothardware.com/news/latest-windows-10-update-reportedly-removes-some-software-without-authorization (http://hothardware.com/news/latest-windows-10-update-reportedly-removes-some-software-without-authorization)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Frenchfry on November 26, 2015, 05:22:37 AM
Just throwing this out there so others may be aware.

Latest Windows 10 Update Reportedly Removes Some Software Without Authorization

[url]http://hothardware.com/news/latest-windows-10-update-reportedly-removes-some-software-without-authorization[/url] ([url]http://hothardware.com/news/latest-windows-10-update-reportedly-removes-some-software-without-authorization[/url])
I noticed my AMD Catalyst Control Center required an update yesterday so when I read your story, I thought that may have been why...but I would've noticed because I use it to scale my desktop so everything stays in my view-able area.

As for one of the other issues in the story about forcing Win10 onto Win7 machines...I'd say they did that to my spare machine since there a long list of updates available...none of which said Win10...but no matter what, it wouldn't allow any updates without changing over to Win10.

I even tried picking and choosing individual updates...but to no avail. I relented.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: arpydave on November 26, 2015, 06:06:55 AM
I have no dog in this fight as I am happy running along on Win 8 and am holding out on Win 10 upgrade as they continue to debug this roll-out.

But glad the link caused you to pause and look. I'd hate for somebody's box to become disabled due to the Evil Empire knowing better than you do and taking over.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on January 16, 2016, 09:34:06 AM
If you've upgraded from 7 or 8 then you probably don't have a recovery disc...

here's how to burn one or use a usb stick:

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/be-prepared-create-a-windows-10-recovery-drive/ (http://www.techrepublic.com/article/be-prepared-create-a-windows-10-recovery-drive/)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: arpydave on January 16, 2016, 10:20:16 AM
Just glad I have Win 8.1
 I resist giving in to the Evil Empire!!!!

Microsoft finally kills support for Windows 8. It's the end of an error

http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/15/technology/microsoft-windows-8/ (http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/15/technology/microsoft-windows-8/)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on July 27, 2016, 08:26:40 AM
Just throwing this out there so others may be aware.

Latest Windows 10 Update Reportedly Removes Some Software Without Authorization

[url]http://hothardware.com/news/latest-windows-10-update-reportedly-removes-some-software-without-authorization[/url] ([url]http://hothardware.com/news/latest-windows-10-update-reportedly-removes-some-software-without-authorization[/url])



I finally updated my 'old' desktop from Win 7 to Win 10 yesterday.  No issues so far and it actually seems to have (at least for now) cured a minor (but irritating) issue in Firefox.

I had done my laptop not too long after the update started.  I hurried on that to stay within a 'warranty' situation but had no issues.  I don't use it very much although my wife uses it quite a bit and we haven't had any problems (other than having to figure out a few things).

The last few steps of the update yesterday informed me that the update had 'removed' a few programs and apps!!!

Not a notice that they were disabled and what issues they might cause if they were re-activated...

just that they had been REMOVED!!!

None of them were anything I had paid for and a couple of them were really bloatware from HP when the computer was brand new.  One was a wifi management assistance program that win 10 must have replaced.  I haven't really looked into it yet but I'm using that machine to post and obviously it's working!

The one that bugged me the most was SpyBot...  I use that fairly often but it was free anyway. 

Anyone know if it really won't work or it they have one that will work on Win 10? 

I'll dig into it and try to figure out a work around.  I really do like SpyBot...  simple and it works!

I guess at this point I'm just happy the machine survived.  I did back up all my photos and any docs and files that couldn't be duplicated. 

The next thing is to see if it will last.

Our oldest daughter has a tablet with Win 8 and the last I talked to her she's just going to leave 'good enough' alone ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on July 27, 2016, 09:47:13 AM
I'm still running a desk with XT and a laptop with VISTA,  I'm sticking with it.  I've not read anything that 10 will make either one better
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 27, 2016, 10:06:41 PM
I'm still running a desk with XT and a laptop with VISTA,  I'm sticking with it.  I've not read anything that 10 will make either one better

So, am I.  Chrome don't support Vista anymore but I have no issues at all, same with XP.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 27, 2016, 10:09:30 PM
I used to use Spy-Bot but CCleaner is much better and it supports everything...and it's free too.  I use that Defraggler and Recuva, all Piriform products, all freeware in File Hippo.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on July 28, 2016, 08:23:21 AM
So far I'm doing just fine with it!  I probably should have updated sooner ;D ;D ;D

I'm still trying to figure out how upgrading corrected the issues I'd been having with FireFox :-\ :-\ :-\

I was also having some problems in the Windows video editor...   I'll have to go check and see if that is working now!
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on July 28, 2016, 09:55:18 AM
I'm not updating primarily because my computers are old, have no memory and slow processors.  10 isn't going to help load thousands of ads every page i go to.  The video's suck up all the capacity.. If I try to load something before all the ads get loaded the computer is likely to lock up.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 28, 2016, 01:19:01 PM
I'm not updating primarily because my computers are old, have no memory and slow processors.  10 isn't going to help load thousands of ads every page i go to.  The video's suck up all the capacity.. If I try to load something before all the ads get loaded the computer is likely to lock up.

I put Ad Blocker on my computers, works fantastic and it's freeware too....  Really cleans out MT (showing 4 ads right now).
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on July 28, 2016, 01:50:49 PM
I'll look into it.  Ads are annoying. I don't mind the ones that sponsor something I'm looking at.  But they load hundreds just to have then there in the event I happen to tap or click inadvertently
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 28, 2016, 04:20:56 PM
It's www.getadblock.com (http://www.getadblock.com) 
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 28, 2016, 04:22:48 PM
Since I purged it last month, it's blocked over 69,000 ads.  5 on this site while I'm posting this.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on July 28, 2016, 05:58:16 PM
Geesus,  It's like i have a new computer.  It just flys now.  those damn irritating ads gone.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 28, 2016, 08:09:17 PM
Geesus,  It's like i have a new computer.  It just flys now.  those damn irritating ads gone.

I got reamed verbally by CL.  She said I never told her about AdBlock.  Thought I did, guess I didn't.  She has it now as well.  It's a great free program.

I like CCleaner too.  been using that for years now.  It has some neat custom features like a registry clean up and I use Defraggler to defrag the drives.  Defraggler lets you choose which files to defrag so it's quick.

I hate pop up ads.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on July 28, 2016, 08:40:44 PM
The regular defrag runs half the day.
You did the right thing in admitting you probably didn't tell the wife about the ad blocker..  Things go easier that way
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: CatLady on July 28, 2016, 09:39:15 PM
Besides...he didn't.   :)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 28, 2016, 09:43:33 PM
I don't remember....  How's that.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on July 28, 2016, 09:53:07 PM
That works sometimes
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on July 29, 2016, 03:42:30 AM
Since I purged it last month, it's blocked over 69,000 ads.  5 on this site while I'm posting this.

Every once in a while I'll end up on a site that throws up a page that says they have detected my adblocker and won't let me proceed unless I turn AB off...   I usually just back right on out of that site and go look for whatever it was somewhere else!
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on July 29, 2016, 03:45:30 AM
Since I purged it last month, it's blocked over 69,000 ads.  5 on this site while I'm posting this.

But every time you refresh or change pages it's counting that same 5 over and over again so that 69K may be a little misleading.

I don't have adblocker on my tablet and it's interesting to see some of the ads that appear here on MT sometimes!!!
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 29, 2016, 05:50:23 AM
But every time you refresh or change pages it's counting that same 5 over and over again so that 69K may be a little misleading.

I don't have adblocker on my tablet and it's interesting to see some of the ads that appear here on MT sometimes!!!

That is true but I don't want to see any of them, especially the mouse over ones that explode when your cursor touches them.  No more 'ad choices' on here.  It's not a choice it's shoved down your throat.  The 'advanced' part of ad block allows you to pick and choose ads.  I prefer not to have any myself.

The only 'tablet' I have is the allergy tablet I take before going to bed.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on July 29, 2016, 09:36:11 AM
The ones that explode when you mouse over or stare to long at the ipad are the ones that pizzz me off too.
The ads that are paying for a site to provide info i don't mind.  It's all the other crap that companies are forcing on the pages.  It's ridiculous to load a page and watch the bottom of the computer go thru the sites it's loading ads from.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Professor H on July 29, 2016, 09:47:33 AM
Today I saw may be the last day to get the free conversion to 10...    I've been using it with no problems for months now.   

I see many sights now saying "hey we see you have a adv blocker" - and want you to disable it before going futher
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on July 29, 2016, 11:00:19 AM
Today I saw may be the last day to get the free conversion to 10...    I've been using it with no problems for months now.   

I see many sights now saying "hey we see you have a adv blocker" - and want you to disable it before going futher

Yes, that was the message I was getting...

I had planned to update my desktop machine after the laptop survived the upgrade with no issues...

both were Win 7 machines...

so far I'm kind of neutral on the upgrade with the exception that it appears to have 'fixed' (at least for the time being) a minor issue in Firefox...   something about a script running!!!
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on July 29, 2016, 11:19:53 AM
I haven't had much of an issue with the script running wild in FireFox anymore.  Occasionally now, not every time i visited this site.  After visiting this site i had to shut down FireFox and reload.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Tiny on July 29, 2016, 12:21:14 PM
I spent 2 hours re-partitioning my Hard Drive so I would have enough room to upgrade with W-10. Then spent 4 hours upgrading yesterday, everything worked fine and all my old software still runs good. The calculator looks kind of cheap though, and some minor color changes with the windows that open up, but every thing else looks good. I like the menu that pops up on the left but very seldom use it. I launch everything from the task bar at the bottom.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 29, 2016, 12:54:49 PM
I haven't had much of an issue with the script running wild in FireFox anymore.  Occasionally now, not every time i visited this site.  After visiting this site i had to shut down FireFox and reload.

I use Chrome (default) and IE and thats it.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on July 30, 2016, 09:07:22 AM
I use Chrome (default) and IE and thats it.

I don't use FireFox near as much as I did until I got into using Chrome for everything.  For years lots of our work websites would only 'work' properly on IE. 

Even in my early WWW days I preferred Netscape Navigator which is the forerunner of FireFox.  Then Chrome started doing a pretty good job of running work sites so I was running both and Chrome has just evolved better for me.

I still keep FireFox and even Safari around because every once in a while there is something that was designed to work with them. 

My wife was at the doctor one day last week and they told her she could get her results 'online'...

then the directions say you MUST use FireFox.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on July 30, 2016, 09:15:36 AM
I used Chrome on both computers for quite awhile.  It got to be a big hog so i dumped it.  Maybe it's better now.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 30, 2016, 11:26:16 AM
I used Chrome on both computers for quite awhile.  It got to be a big hog so i dumped it.  Maybe it's better now.

Download and run CCleaner (File Hippo) and either make it default startup or run it manually, everyday.  It also has active monitoring.  It works and makes the 'Chrome' shiny again...lol

I'm not steering you wrong, I didn't lie about AdBlock did I?

CCleaner is freeware for the basic download or you can buy the advanced version from Piriform.  I prefer the basic but you can customize the basic (freeware) to so what you want.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on July 31, 2016, 08:52:09 AM
The only (very minor) issue I'm having so far is every time I boot up I get an error message from a program that I'm not even aware that I have on this machine.  Tells me I need an updated version and if I bought (I know I did not) the prior version over 90 days ago I will have to re-purchase the update.

Now, I know I didn't buy the program and it may be on here somehow but if it was something I had bought and I had to buy it again from updating I sure wouldn't be very happy. 

When I have more time I'll figure out exactly what it is and remove it.  I think I do have a photo editor from that same company so maybe that is the confusion.  If the photo editor won't work in W10 then it's bye-bye to the it!!!
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Newport-Bill on July 31, 2016, 12:28:54 PM
Been running Windows 10 for some time now on 3 computers with no issues.  Being an IT Security guy I did come across this article and followed the settings almost 100% in order to help from a privacy standpoint.  You can still revise them after install if you are interested.  Just thought I would share.

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2015/08/windows_10_privacy_problems_here_s_how_bad_they_are_and_how_to_plug_them.html (http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2015/08/windows_10_privacy_problems_here_s_how_bad_they_are_and_how_to_plug_them.html)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on August 01, 2016, 10:09:47 AM
Downloaded and ran CCleaner.  I haven't looked into the options yet but it says it's monitoring now and will let me know when to run it again.  I think I'll go with that and see.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Newport-Bill on August 01, 2016, 11:05:27 AM
I run Ccleaner on regular basis but have not seen the need to run it daily.  Make sure to run both the files/programs and registry tabs (the top 2 picks.)

Another good free download to have is Malwarebytes AntiMalware.  I have found their scan identifies and cleans up quite a bit the others miss.  I run a quick scan at least monthly with it.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on August 01, 2016, 12:01:21 PM
I do run Malwarebytes, maybe monthly if that.  The guy that fixed my laptop put it on.  I will take a look at options for Ccleaner..
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 01, 2016, 03:21:04 PM
One thing I like with CCleaner is you can set the file deletion mode for as many passes as you want.  Normally, I leave it at one pass but, say on Sunday or when I'm offline, I set the deletion level at 4 passes which is time consuming.  I use the registry clean up every time I run it (CCleaner).

I have all the Piriform programs on my computers but I use CCleaner and Defraggler the most.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 01, 2016, 03:22:14 PM
I'd never endorse any program I didn't run first btw.
Title: Windows 10 Anniversary Update
Post by: BigRedDog on August 14, 2016, 09:21:00 AM
W10 hasn't been out for even a year yet and they're already messing with it...

adding the things they forgot and correcting the mistakes they made it all sounds like!


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/david-pogue-windows-10-anniversary-000000025.html (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/david-pogue-windows-10-anniversary-000000025.html)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Tiny on September 24, 2016, 08:25:33 PM
I installed W-10 back in July then I set it to stop automatic updates, well yesterday Microsoft hit me with their virus.

Fifteen minutes after I turned it on the screen changes to all orange and tells me it needs to restart so it can download new updates. It took total control and told me not to shut off the computer. Nothing on the screen but a series of dots spinning. Three and a half hours later and several restarts it finally finishes and I can use it again.

The next time I start it, it does it again but it only lasts about 20 minutes. It does this the next two times I start the computer too.

Now it's working again but takes about twice as long to start up each time and seems a lot slower over all. They changed the menu again, and messed up all my icons on the desktop. Added a few new icons to my task bar. Also changed the way the directory is laid out when you open your hard drive icon. 

Haven't seen anything new that was worth changing. Just changes to make sure you have to relearn stuff every so often.

The amount of time spent updating they could have reinstalled the whole operating system faster. Microsoft has to have full control or they aren't happy, it's like a Virus.

We should put news out on the web about the new Microsoft Virus.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on September 25, 2016, 11:27:47 AM
I'm so happy i didn't convert my Vista to W-10/
the laptop is an old Compaq without a lot of memory and has slow drivers.
I'll use it as is until it dies.
Once in awhile it locks up on some stuff but a C-A-D gets me going again.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on September 26, 2016, 10:04:14 AM
I installed W-10 back in July then I set it to stop automatic updates, well yesterday Microsoft hit me with their virus.

Fifteen minutes after I turned it on the screen changes to all orange and tells me it needs to restart so it can download new updates. It took total control and told me not to shut off the computer. Nothing on the screen but a series of dots spinning. Three and a half hours later and several restarts it finally finishes and I can use it again.

The next time I start it, it does it again but it only lasts about 20 minutes. It does this the next two times I start the computer too.

Now it's working again but takes about twice as long to start up each time and seems a lot slower over all. They changed the menu again, and messed up all my icons on the desktop. Added a few new icons to my task bar. Also changed the way the directory is laid out when you open your hard drive icon. 

Haven't seen anything new that was worth changing. Just changes to make sure you have to relearn stuff every so often.

The amount of time spent updating they could have reinstalled the whole operating system faster. Microsoft has to have full control or they aren't happy, it's like a Virus.

We should put news out on the web about the new Microsoft Virus.

I have the notice that I have updates pending...   I have my settings to not automatically update but I believe if you don't do it within a certain time frame it will still go ahead and do it when you least expect it!!!
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on September 26, 2016, 10:20:30 AM
The more new features these companies come up with the more things get screwed up.
I noticed a day ago that Verizon updated my phone with new stuff.  Left me a little notice.
Last night i go to type a txt and see i have a split keyboard.  Never saw that before.
Find in settings the split keyboard is turned on.   I sure didn't do it.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on September 26, 2016, 11:27:21 AM
I'm so happy i didn't convert my Vista to W-10/
the laptop is an old Compaq without a lot of memory and has slow drivers.
I'll use it as is until it dies.

Once in awhile it locks up on some stuff but a C-A-D gets me going again.


I have an old HP laptop that's about the same...   I'm thinking it's Windows ME.

Right now all I use it for is a paperweight but other than running slow it was still a pretty good machine the last time I used it.  I still want to try converting it to Chrome which makes it similar to a Chromebook although obviously short a lot of hardware capabilities.

The big drawback I read is that on many laptops the display isn't right on the monitor although if you plug in an auxiliary monitor everything appears fine...   go figure that one!!!

If it works I'll feel like I accomplished something and if it doesn't it will probably give me the incentive to rip the hard drive out of it and junk the rest of the machine!

Saw this option a few weeks ago too...

seems like it might be worth a try on a cold winter day when I want to stay indoors ;D ;D ;D

One of the immediate links is how he upgraded his Mom's XP machine...

http://www.computerworld.com/article/3036161/cloud-computing/cloudready-convert-old-computer-into-chromebook.html (http://www.computerworld.com/article/3036161/cloud-computing/cloudready-convert-old-computer-into-chromebook.html)

Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on July 11, 2017, 10:45:52 AM
Time for a new laptop I guess. Mine running Vista won't load most of my stuff anymore. Mostly social media stuff and even my banking.  Buckeye and Gmail okay.
And it's been slow the last few years because of all the background crap sites load
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Newport-Bill on July 11, 2017, 11:23:58 AM
If you are running Vista you are circa 2008.  Laptop life is effectively 5 years max typically as they are not built to last.  Back to school sale prices will be coming end of the month so you should be able to get one at a good price. 

If you don't mind a drive to I75 and 14 Mile Microcenter has decent prices in the past.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on July 11, 2017, 04:11:52 PM
Thanks for input.  yeah this thing is old old old..  But it works well for what i do.  It's slow because all the video crap that loads with each site takes a long time..
I think I'm going the Apple route.  Don't know if anyone ever puts them on sale.
I can get by for a while as i have an old base unit running XT.
I do have a Apple Phone and iPad..
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 11, 2017, 06:06:28 PM
Mine runs just fine.  Vista.  I keep it clean with CCleaner and Ad Block.  So does my ancient Gateway running IE6.  Both are on their 2nd hard drives.

Don't need no stinking new computer.  heck, my Andriod has all the latest stuff in it..  That I cannot figure out...lol
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on July 11, 2017, 07:06:36 PM
I run Ccleaner and have the Adblock,
Some stuff loads but it appears anything loaded with video and pictures it stalls..
I run defrag pretty often too.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Newport-Bill on July 11, 2017, 07:32:30 PM
Most likely short on memory.  Once memory runs out then it starts doing disk swapping.  You fix by adding memory and changing to an SSD drive but personally better off not putting money into them but rather a new box.

Sites with video choke all of my old PCs.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on July 11, 2017, 08:09:26 PM
That's kind of where I'm at. I watch sometimes and some sites using all the memory.  And Firefox has become a really big hog
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Monroe Native on July 11, 2017, 08:38:49 PM
I've been buying used off lease business laptops off of Woot.

You can pick up a nice business grade I5 or I7 unit with Windows 7 or Windows 10 Pro for a couple hundred bucks or less.

At that point they are just disposable as far as I am concerned.

Use them until their keyboard starts sticking, or the mouse pad starts acting up, and get another one.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 11, 2017, 10:53:23 PM
Most likely short on memory.  Once memory runs out then it starts doing disk swapping.  You fix by adding memory and changing to an SSD drive but personally better off not putting money into them but rather a new box.

Sites with video choke all of my old PCs.

I added a chipset to both.  I have no issues.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 11, 2017, 10:54:18 PM
I've been buying used off lease business laptops off of Woot.

You can pick up a nice business grade I5 or I7 unit with Windows 7 or Windows 10 Pro for a couple hundred bucks or less.

At that point they are just disposable as far as I am concerned.

Use them until their keyboard starts sticking, or the mouse pad starts acting up, and get another one.

That sounds like you.  Keeping the landfill operating.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on July 12, 2017, 09:49:34 AM
I'm finding  that I'm having issues with sites that have to connect to google..
Gmail works fine until i open an email that has pics etc.  I get the msg "having trouble connecting to google.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on July 12, 2017, 10:00:30 AM
I picked up a nice little Chromebook while we were in Florida.  Works great for MT and Twitter and Email and just surfing the net.  The thing with a chromebook is they don't have a hard drive...  you have to use it online and everything is stored 'in the cloud' for you.  There are multiple manufacturers and a wide range of prices.  Mine has an 11" screen (kind of small but it's extremely portable.  I really bought it for while we are traveling.  Turn it on and it boots up and you're surfing with it in less than 30 seconds.  I did buy a 2 yr extended warranty with it and I have less that $200 in it.  Use it 2 years at $100/yr and throw it in the dumpster beside MN's throwaways.  Actually I take my recyclable electronics to the Habitat Re-store at the corner of Jones and Laplaisance. 

I still have a very up to date laptop that I use for work but I think if I did some digging I could find all the apps I need to use the crhomebook for everything. 

I did have some trouble with the chromebook when I was scanning some big photos...   maybe I was just pushing the resolution too high :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on July 12, 2017, 11:35:20 AM
I recycle everything but the hard drive. 
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Newport-Bill on July 12, 2017, 11:45:39 AM
I recycle everything but the hard drive.

Agree - as an IT Security guy I do the same.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Monroe Native on July 12, 2017, 08:25:58 PM
That sounds like you.  Keeping the landfill operating.

What are you talking about?

I'm recycling used stuff.

I'm very green - as you well know.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 12, 2017, 08:40:19 PM
What are you talking about?

I'm recycling used stuff.

I'm very green - as you well know.

I forgot you are Irish...sorry....
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 12, 2017, 08:41:20 PM
I quit dumping my used motor oil in the road to keep the dust down this year.........
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Monroe Native on July 13, 2017, 08:14:01 PM
I quit dumping my used motor oil in the road to keep the dust down this year.........

Why?  That works so well!
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on July 13, 2017, 08:54:34 PM
Can a little oil runoff be as bad for Lake Erie as Toledo dumping millions of gallons of raw sewage every time it rains?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Monroe Native on July 13, 2017, 08:59:49 PM
Or the phosphorous that is in the fertilizers that get flushed into Lake Erie?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on July 13, 2017, 09:59:50 PM
Is the phosphorus that bad or are politicians just kicking them hiding Thur own problems like dumping sewage
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on July 13, 2017, 10:08:05 PM
Is the phosphorus that bad or are politicians just kicking them hiding Thur own problems like dumping sewage

The sewage generates phosphorous too...  I've been around the great lakes my entire life and I've never seen the algae anywhere or anytime like it has been on this end of Lake Erie the last few years.

If it's not phosphorous then it is for sure something that has changed very recently. 
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on July 13, 2017, 10:12:15 PM
I quit dumping my used motor oil in the road to keep the dust down this year.........

That's good...  it won't help with the algae blooms but it will help the environment in plenty of other ways.  I've never been all that thrilled with the brine the road commission puts down and all the salt in the winter and how that can all impact the environment too.

I even wonder about the sugar beet juice and if they've ever studied that enough to know if it's actually smart to spread it on the roads where it will eventually end up in the entire watershed :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on July 27, 2017, 10:42:47 AM
Took the Vista laptop to a computer guy.  He said the biggest problem was AVG.  His though is they have made so many updates lately and have excluded anything thoughs to the impact on XT and Vista machines.
He cleaned up machine some but dumped AVG and put on PANDA..
He also replace the ad blocker with Ublock.
He liked my Ccleaner.
He also added smartdefrag which he likes better than running the microsoft one.
And he also added a new home page...https://besthomepageever.com/
I have't tried to customize it yet.  He did some based on the feedback i gave him on the sites i visited.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 29, 2017, 10:20:14 PM
I run the CCleaner defraggler.  Have for years.  MN got me interested in Woot.  Just bought a Magellan Roadmate 6250LM with lifetme map upgrades and a built in dashcam for 65 bucks.  It's a hoot...from Woot.

They are 129 bucks on the Magellan site.

Now I can be like the Russian drivers and record the antics of everyone....

Tiger Direct has some good prices on computers too.

Never cared for AVG at all.  Been a Norton 360 person for many years.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on September 19, 2017, 10:09:23 PM
Just read in an email from Cnet that CCleaner had been hacked and malicious code installed. If you are using 5.33.6162 or Cclean cloud
v 1.07.3191 delete it and reload the current
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on June 26, 2018, 12:47:52 PM
I just received notice that Mozilla Firefox no longer going to support browser for XT and Vista.  Seems i have both.  Their suggestion is to upgrade to W-10.
I don't think i want to do that with 2 very old computers.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: BigRedDog on June 26, 2018, 12:56:29 PM
I just received notice that Mozilla Firefox no longer going to support browser for XT and Vista.  Seems i have both.  Their suggestion is to upgrade to W-10.
I don't think i want to do that with 2 very old computers.

They wouldn't even make good boat anchors ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 26, 2018, 02:11:52 PM
Yes they would.  Small boat anchors.  I don't know what I have but whatever it is, it's quick and painless.  I have a couple old obsolete computers I need to take out and have target practice with.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: blue2 on June 26, 2018, 03:03:38 PM
Yeah the XT might make a good anchor for a small boat.Visa is a wide screen Compaq that has been really good for 12-15 years. But oh is it slow mostly because of all the embedded videos