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Title: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: BigRedDog on September 09, 2018, 11:47:54 AM
I'm not a big fan of bugs of any kind anywhere and especially in an area where I'm living.  I realize they're all important in the big scheme of life but there's a lot of places they can live beyond where I'm living.

We bought our camper in Florida and apparently at least one palmetto bug hitched a ride home with us last spring.  We only saw it one time and that was at night but it was in our bedroom.  I'm guessing it 'froze' over the winter but we never have found it's remains! 

We've managed to keep ants and spiders out mostly just by keeping things clean.  While we were in Grayling I saw a huge spider web running from the rear corner of the camper down the the back of the bicycle rack and over to the handlebars on one of the bicycles.  I'd clear it all off and the next morning it would be back again.  One morning I caught the culprit sneaking out of the corner of the slideout seals.  There's just a tiny hole there but it doesn't take much of a hole for a spider to sneak through.  I gave him a dose of hot water and didn't see him the rest of the trip.  Anyway, got me to thinking on ways to actually repel bugs rather than just treat them when we find them.  Google is my friend and it found me a very thorough and well explained article from a place right here in Grand Rapids, MI.  If it works on west Michigan bugs it should work on them across the state.

https://terrytownrv.com/blog/how-to-keep-your-rv-spider-and-insect-free/

Actually all these tips should work all around the farmstead.  I have a cedar log with some branches left on it laying back in the back field.  I need to find some small mesh bags (any suggestions on where) and I'll 'chip' some of the cedar and try that.  Maybe it will even keep the mice out of my deer blind!!!

If anyone has any other suggestions please post them.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: BigRedDog on September 09, 2018, 11:59:55 AM
I had posted this a couple of days ago in the Tesla thread but that's what got me to thinking about a camping discussion thread. 

I've always wondered why so many of the new camping products is developed in Europe as opposed to here in the US.

https://www.curbed.com/2018/8/29/17795996/camper-trailer-electric-dethleffs (https://www.curbed.com/2018/8/29/17795996/camper-trailer-electric-dethleffs)

These have the potential to become very popular as the slow progression to electric vehicles moves along. 

Maybe this is the answer to Tesla's trucks carrying heavy loads.  Put motors on the trailer axles and let the trailer help move the load when needed.

Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: BigRedDog on September 09, 2018, 12:12:31 PM
This new 'concept' is not from Europe but it's not from the US either... 

from New Zealand ('down under' in the ocean near Australia for the geographically challenged). 

https://www.curbed.com/2018/8/28/17790752/camper-for-sale-trailer-expandable-romotow (https://www.curbed.com/2018/8/28/17790752/camper-for-sale-trailer-expandable-romotow)

Interesting that they're using a carbon fiber chassis.  That's technology that was developed in Bay City, MI almost 50 years ago using some Dow Chemical resin products.  The Gougeon Brothers are the guys that decided to use carbon fibers with the resin and the concept has been expanding slowly since then.  if they can use it for a chassis then they're not using as much steel or aluminum.  Time will tell where it all goes.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: eriemermaid on September 10, 2018, 04:50:39 PM
BRD, I have Balsam Fir shavings in my motor home.  It smells nice and it seems to work!
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 10, 2018, 06:48:21 PM
Good topic in as much as CL and I have had various RV's for years now.  We aren't conventional RV'ers like most with pull behind's and motor homes and 5ers, we have truck campers. 

Last one was a Lance and now we have a Palomino SS1500.  I prefer a TC because of the versatility.  We can 'set up shop' anywhere from a turnout on a secondary road to a campground (I avoid them like the plague because I don't want to be a sardine in with other sardines) to a Walmart parking lot, in a pinch plus with a TC, you can park on a regular street on a normal parking spot and go 'touring' and not need to get a taxi or pull a 'toad' behind for use as a car.

I carry mine in the back of my F350 Ford 4x4 so I can also camp off road in places only a 4 wheel drive can get to, like our property up north, only accessable via a seasonal road with a stream crossing.  We go there all the time. a mile off the pavement, in the woods, no people, just wild game, just like I like it.

Unlike a pull behind or a motor home, I get good fuel mileage too.  I can get close to 18mpg with the camper on, fully loaded with CL and the big black dog in the backseat.  Not real important today but an expense none the less.

Way back when we had a trailer but it was to limited to access the places I want to camp at.  Been a truck camper ever since and the nice thing about the TC is off season storage.  It goes in my garage in the winter.  The worst thing for any RV is sitting outside in the weather all the time.  Mine is in the garage unless I plan on using it.  They will last a very long time that way and they aren't cheap to begin with.

I've learned over the years, what kills any RV is lack of seal maintenance and never use RTV silicone as a sealer either,  RV's take special sealants in various places like the roof and external ports in the Filon skin.  Modern RV's are mostly skinned with vacuum bonded Filon which is a special fiberglass and it's vacuum bonded with glue to a luan substrate.  If any moisture gets under the outside skin, it causes the glue to let go and 'delamination' of the Filon happens along with entrapped moisture rotting the RV frame.

Why I'd never buy a used RV.  Most RV owners never maintain the seals so an older unit will be in some stage of rot or delam as the industry calls it.  Finally, the mold that is growing behind the wallboard that you cannot see is a hazardous substance to breathe.

I see units sitting out in the weather all the time and I think to myself, they are rotting away.  Too bad really.

I inspect my seals at least twice tearly and touch up any suspected areas with either Eternabond or Sikaflex sealant.  If I had a TT or motor home, I'd do a blower door test on it at least yearly and see where it was leaking and address it.  In my case, my roof and external seals are minimal do a visual is all I need, another reason I have a TC, maintenance is easier.  No tires to worry about, no brakes to worry about and no additional license plate plus they are really cheap (even in Michigan) to insure.  My TC is considered cargo on the truck so the truck plate is all I need and the truck carries the camper so the truck running gear is all that needs maintenance.

I do pull my quads behind the TC when we go up north.  Have a nice rear observation camera (wireless) on the back to monitor the trailer and traffic back there too.

Not for everyone but for us, a TC works just fine.

Kind of like being a turtle and taking your house with you wherever you go.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 10, 2018, 07:05:09 PM
I've never has a bug issue either inside.  In fact, my TC is a 2015 and still smells new inside.  Easy to keep clean and light and airy inside (plenty of windows).  I think CL and I get our best night sleep out in the woods in it.  Nice and peaceful except for the big black dog snoring on the floor.... ;D

Setting up is easy too.  I pick my spot, release the tie downs (they are quick release cam locks), drop the jack legs and level the camper, get the genny out (I carry a Champion 2000 watt Inverter generator) plug it into the shore power cord and we are all set.  I run 2 group 24 deep cycle batteries in the battery bay along with an Aims Power 1500 watt PSW inverter for my CPAP machine.  I run the genny about 2 hours every evening to top off the batteries.  Other than that, no need for 120 volt power.  All my lights (inside and outside the camper and on the truck are LED's so very little current draw and the fridge takes minimal power as well.

I think this winter I'm going to remove the ammonia fridge and replace it with a Dometic Danfoss/Secop compressor fridge.  Much easier to deal with, cooling is way more efficient and no waiting 12 hours for the ammonia fridge to cool down.  I may also install a couple 100 watt solar panels on the roof.  That should eliminate me taking the genny along.  A pair of 100 watt panels and a PWM controller would do me nicely.  We have no roof air, don't want an ac unit anyway.  Ac requires serious power and when we use the camper, about the only time we are inside is to sleep anyway and at night it's usually cool enough.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: BigRedDog on September 11, 2018, 06:50:07 AM
Good topic in as much as CL and I have had various RV's for years now.  We aren't conventional RV'ers like most with pull behind's and motor homes and 5ers, we have truck campers. 

Last one was a Lance and now we have a Palomino SS1500.  I prefer a TC because of the versatility.  We can 'set up shop' anywhere from a turnout on a secondary road to a campground (I avoid them like the plague because I don't want to be a sardine in with other sardines) to a Walmart parking lot, in a pinch plus with a TC, you can park on a regular street on a normal parking spot and go 'touring' and not need to get a taxi or pull a 'toad' behind for use as a car.

I carry mine in the back of my F350 Ford 4x4 so I can also camp off road in places only a 4 wheel drive can get to, like our property up north, only accessable via a seasonal road with a stream crossing.  We go there all the time. a mile off the pavement, in the woods, no people, just wild game, just like I like it.

Unlike a pull behind or a motor home, I get good fuel mileage too.  I can get close to 18mpg with the camper on, fully loaded with CL and the big black dog in the backseat.  Not real important today but an expense none the less.

Way back when we had a trailer but it was to limited to access the places I want to camp at.  Been a truck camper ever since and the nice thing about the TC is off season storage.  It goes in my garage in the winter.  The worst thing for any RV is sitting outside in the weather all the time.  Mine is in the garage unless I plan on using it.  They will last a very long time that way and they aren't cheap to begin with.

I've learned over the years, what kills any RV is lack of seal maintenance and never use RTV silicone as a sealer either,  RV's take special sealants in various places like the roof and external ports in the Filon skin.  Modern RV's are mostly skinned with vacuum bonded Filon which is a special fiberglass and it's vacuum bonded with glue to a luan substrate.  If any moisture gets under the outside skin, it causes the glue to let go and 'delamination' of the Filon happens along with entrapped moisture rotting the RV frame.

Why I'd never buy a used RV.  Most RV owners never maintain the seals so an older unit will be in some stage of rot or delam as the industry calls it.  Finally, the mold that is growing behind the wallboard that you cannot see is a hazardous substance to breathe.

I see units sitting out in the weather all the time and I think to myself, they are rotting away.  Too bad really.

I inspect my seals at least twice tearly and touch up any suspected areas with either Eternabond or Sikaflex sealant.  If I had a TT or motor home, I'd do a blower door test on it at least yearly and see where it was leaking and address it.  In my case, my roof and external seals are minimal do a visual is all I need, another reason I have a TC, maintenance is easier.  No tires to worry about, no brakes to worry about and no additional license plate plus they are really cheap (even in Michigan) to insure.  My TC is considered cargo on the truck so the truck plate is all I need and the truck carries the camper so the truck running gear is all that needs maintenance.

I do pull my quads behind the TC when we go up north.  Have a nice rear observation camera (wireless) on the back to monitor the trailer and traffic back there too.

Not for everyone but for us, a TC works just fine.

Kind of like being a turtle and taking your house with you wherever you go.


How do you put 8 people in a slide in truck camper?  You'd have them packed in like sardines.  Smells like claustrophobia to me!

Where do you come up with some of your info you pass along as 'fact'?

While roof leaks can happen on any vehicle including autos and pickup trucks you make it sound like ever camper of every desing (escept slide in pickup campers that is) has a bad roof and will leak 3 days out of the factory. 

All the 'decent' campers for the last several years have used a rubber membrane roof of one type or another.  Lifespan of those is 25-30 years according to:

http://www.primetimerv.com/download/ComponentManuals/RubberRoof-Brite-PlybyDicor-FAQs.pdf (http://www.primetimerv.com/download/ComponentManuals/RubberRoof-Brite-PlybyDicor-FAQs.pdf)

We spent a lot of time looking at various trailer campers in Florida a year ago when we bought ours.  It's like buying anything else that's mechanical...

you have to inspect it closely and have a basic idea of what you're looking at.  My background in boats probably gave me a slight advantage as a boat has many similarities to an RV plus it has to float!!!

We did find roofs that had been damaged and patched however if patched properly the patch should outlast the product it's covering.  Like everything else, there are great levels of craftsmanship and there are not so great levels.  With a keen eye and a little knowledge it's easy enough to tell the difference. 

The big thing in RVing right now are the retro trailer camper trailers.  According to you there shouldn't be any of these left because they all rotted away 40 years ago.  We got into one caravan of them heading up 75 north of Bay City that was probably 30-40 units long.  Where did these all come from if they all rotted away?  These are not reproductions but are real vintage vehicles that have survived the elements for decades.

As far as keeping a camper inside yes it probably keeps it cleaner but then there are a lot of people out there in the RV world that are living in their vehicles 365 days at a time and I don't see their vehicles falling apart alongside the roads when we're traveling. 

We were still camping in our unit into December last year and would have been on the way to Florida in January had it not been for an issue with my wife's ankle. 

I think it's great that you're on here sharing 'your' experiences but to come on and say that 'your' way is the 'only' way gets pretty dry in a hurry. 

You had some good tips on some things to look for on roof damage but what we encountered three to four times as often was internal damage from a water pressure system leak of some sort.  Even the best built and most expensive RVs don't use exterior or marine plywood in their floors.  Get even decent plywood wet and let it set and you're going to have issues down the road. 

However, a close and detailed exploration will be able to detect such damage and everything can be repaired if you throw enough money at it. 

If mold is a concern then almost every big box store and most online stores sell mold test kits.  The issue with mold is it doesn't impact any two people the same.  Some can live surrounded by it and never have a problem and others will be coughing and sputtering at one spore.  Works the same in houses too.  Most homes that have been lived in for over a year have mold in them 'somewhere'.  It's a common problem.  A little cleaning goes a long way.

You must have some stock in one of the companies that manufacture slide in pickup campers the way you're trying to scare everyone into buying 'new' and a 'truck camper' just like yours'.  You seem to want to live in a cookie cutter world that you're right in the center of!?

Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: The Fuzz on September 11, 2018, 10:19:09 AM
LOL, "Shoot from Hip" Flip.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 11, 2018, 09:58:07 PM
How do you put 8 people in a slide in truck camper?  You'd have them packed in like sardines.  Smells like claustrophobia to me!

Where do you come up with some of your info you pass along as 'fact'?

While roof leaks can happen on any vehicle including autos and pickup trucks you make it sound like ever camper of every desing (escept slide in pickup campers that is) has a bad roof and will leak 3 days out of the factory. 

All the 'decent' campers for the last several years have used a rubber membrane roof of one type or another.  Lifespan of those is 25-30 years according to:

[url]http://www.primetimerv.com/download/ComponentManuals/RubberRoof-Brite-PlybyDicor-FAQs.pdf[/url] ([url]http://www.primetimerv.com/download/ComponentManuals/RubberRoof-Brite-PlybyDicor-FAQs.pdf[/url])

We spent a lot of time looking at various trailer campers in Florida a year ago when we bought ours.  It's like buying anything else that's mechanical...

you have to inspect it closely and have a basic idea of what you're looking at.  My background in boats probably gave me a slight advantage as a boat has many similarities to an RV plus it has to float!!!

We did find roofs that had been damaged and patched however if patched properly the patch should outlast the product it's covering.  Like everything else, there are great levels of craftsmanship and there are not so great levels.  With a keen eye and a little knowledge it's easy enough to tell the difference. 

The big thing in RVing right now are the retro trailer camper trailers.  According to you there shouldn't be any of these left because they all rotted away 40 years ago.  We got into one caravan of them heading up 75 north of Bay City that was probably 30-40 units long.  Where did these all come from if they all rotted away?  These are not reproductions but are real vintage vehicles that have survived the elements for decades.

As far as keeping a camper inside yes it probably keeps it cleaner but then there are a lot of people out there in the RV world that are living in their vehicles 365 days at a time and I don't see their vehicles falling apart alongside the roads when we're traveling. 

We were still camping in our unit into December last year and would have been on the way to Florida in January had it not been for an issue with my wife's ankle. 

I think it's great that you're on here sharing 'your' experiences but to come on and say that 'your' way is the 'only' way gets pretty dry in a hurry. 

You had some good tips on some things to look for on roof damage but what we encountered three to four times as often was internal damage from a water pressure system leak of some sort.  Even the best built and most expensive RVs don't use exterior or marine plywood in their floors.  Get even decent plywood wet and let it set and you're going to have issues down the road. 

However, a close and detailed exploration will be able to detect such damage and everything can be repaired if you throw enough money at it. 

If mold is a concern then almost every big box store and most online stores sell mold test kits.  The issue with mold is it doesn't impact any two people the same.  Some can live surrounded by it and never have a problem and others will be coughing and sputtering at one spore.  Works the same in houses too.  Most homes that have been lived in for over a year have mold in them 'somewhere'.  It's a common problem.  A little cleaning goes a long way.

You must have some stock in one of the companies that manufacture slide in pickup campers the way you're trying to scare everyone into buying 'new' and a 'truck camper' just like yours'.  You seem to want to live in a cookie cutter world that you're right in the center of!?


Camper is for the 2 of us and the dog.  If more people come along, like my cousin, he brings his TC.

I see your are being your cynical self again.

All I'm doing is passing on my 25 years of experience, nothing more, nothing less.  Take it for what it's worth, but please quit being an a'hole.  Quit your weed thread.  Could do the same here.  I don't really give 2 shilts one way or another.

Seal maintenance applies to all RV's, yours, mine, anyone's RV.  Don't take care of it, you'll find out the hard (and expensive) way.  Lots of moldy, rotting, delaminating RV's out there.  You may have one....

Your choice entirely.  Again, I don't really care.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 11, 2018, 10:03:54 PM
Mav has seen both my TC's the old Lance and the new Palomino, I think.

I do know one thing and that is, if dog s pulling a pull behind capable of sleeping 8 people with a 150 truck, he is way overloaded most likely underpowered and underbraked.  Like to know what his loaded to camp hitch weight is.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 11, 2018, 10:06:40 PM
Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.

Your thread title, not mine.  I just related my experiences and likes and dislikes.  I guess if you don't want to hear them, don't read them, or lock the thread and start a milktoast thread that only addresses what you want to here.

Said before, at my age I don't have an attitude, I am an attitude.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: The Fuzz on September 11, 2018, 10:29:45 PM
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Your thread title, not mine.  I just related my experiences and likes and dislikes.  I guess if you don't want to hear them, don't read them, or lock the thread and start a milktoast thread that only addresses what you want to here.

Did you mean hear instead of here?

I plan on buying a RV when I retire.  I'm waiting for Dick's Sporting Goods to start selling them do i can buy from them.

Considering a country wide tour hitting the state capitals that have not passed recreational weed and organizing for the cause.

Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: BigRedDog on September 12, 2018, 08:39:38 AM
Did you mean hear instead of here?

I plan on buying a RV when I retire.  I'm waiting for Dick's Sporting Goods to start selling them do i can buy from them.

Considering a country wide tour hitting the state capitals that have not passed recreational weed and organizing for the cause.

No, I think he intentionally used here...

he's getting more and more and more 'self centered' lately and he doesn't seem to want to listen to any facts or logic so he obviously doesn't 'hear' either.

Too bad...

he used to be a pretty good poster.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: BigRedDog on September 12, 2018, 09:09:47 AM
Mav has seen both my TC's the old Lance and the new Palomino, I think.

I do know one thing and that is, if dog s pulling a pull behind capable of sleeping 8 people with a 150 truck, he is way overloaded most likely underpowered and underbraked.  Like to know what his loaded to camp hitch weight is.

I'm not sure what Mav having seen your campers has to do with anything.  I'm guessing Mav has seen hundreds of campers in his days.

Do you ever go look up any info before you post (in other words 'shoot from the hip')?  That's info that is available with just a couple of clicks on the Ford website.  "look before you leap" works in forums as well as jumping out of airplanes!

A 2018 F150 (properly equipped) has a max towing capacity approaching 14,000 pounds (that's 7 tons)!!!  I just saw a review on next year's trucks and that will jump to either 14,200 or 14,400 pounds. 

That is way, way, way beyond what our camper  and pickup weighs "loaded to camp". 

My real question here is why are you so worried about 'my' camper and pickup?  You seem to be developing a fixation for worrying about my finances and now my camping rig.  There is something wrong with you and you really need to see someone about this.  It is not 'normal' behavior to spend so much of your time focused on someone else!!!

Reminds me of how you used to follow FrenchFry around and hang on every word he posted.

Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: BigRedDog on September 12, 2018, 09:12:13 AM
Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.

Your thread title, not mine.  I just related my experiences and likes and dislikes.  I guess if you don't want to hear them, don't read them, or lock the thread and start a milktoast thread that only addresses what you want to here.

Said before, at my age I don't have an attitude, I am an attitude.

You related your experiences but you were also berating people because they weren't doing it 'like you do'...

this world is full of people that do things different than you do.  Get over it!  Actually, do you know how boring it would be if we were all the same?

Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: BigRedDog on September 12, 2018, 09:19:13 AM
Camper is for the 2 of us and the dog.  If more people come along, like my cousin, he brings his TC.

I see your are being your cynical self again.

All I'm doing is passing on my 25 years of experience, nothing more, nothing less.  Take it for what it's worth, but please quit being an a'hole.  Quit your weed thread.  Could do the same here.  I don't really give 2 shilts one way or another.

Seal maintenance applies to all RV's, yours, mine, anyone's RV.  Don't take care of it, you'll find out the hard (and expensive) way.  Lots of moldy, rotting, delaminating RV's out there.  You may have one....

Your choice entirely.  Again, I don't really care.

25 years!!!   A few months ago you were posting and telling me you had 'lots of experience'.  At 25 years you're still wet behind the ears.  Actually you were implying at the time that you had way more experience than I did but now the truth comes out.

Let's go back to the summer I got drafted...  1969.  I got my first job outside the 'tire' industry and it was in an inland marine and camper sales business.  They sold trailer boats and pop up tent campers.  I did repairs and deliveries on all of the above. 

What did you do the summer of '69?
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: BigRedDog on September 12, 2018, 09:49:02 AM
Mav has seen both my TC's the old Lance and the new Palomino, I think.

I do know one thing and that is, if dog s pulling a pull behind capable of sleeping 8 people with a 150 truck, he is way overloaded most likely underpowered and underbraked. Like to know what his loaded to camp hitch weight is.

Now that we've established that I've been hauling both boats and campers longer than you have and probably for more miles over our lifespans let me give you a lesson!

I've hauled trailers of many types over the years.  A trailer is pretty much a trailer.  The cargo or design of the trailer looks a little different but they pretty much just 'trail'  (hence the name 'trailer') the tow vehicle.  I've hauled over width, over weight and probably just about over everything else and I've had trailers with great brakes, marginal brakes and no brakes.  I've had trucks (even cars) that were overpowered, under powered and just right powered (like the 3 little bears).  In all my miles I've never had a crash or even a mishap along the road.  The only ticket I've ever received was for no license plate.  I know it was there when I left the marina about 4 in the afternoon but by 2am it had disappeared.  No idea where it went and I don't care because the marina payed the ticket.

Anyway, lots of various nuts and bolts in a tow vehicle and a trailer but by far the most critical one is the 'nut behind the wheel'.  That nut can make a lot of adjustments and compensate for all the variables.  It's nice that manufacturers all put fancy little stickers on their vehicles giving the weight info but that doesn't mean the trailer will fall off at 2 pounds over the sticker. 

Keep in mind the load that you're towing and make adjustments and compensation as you drive.  Speed is always the big issue and is usually what gets most of those 'nuts' in trouble. 

So you can quit laying awake all night worrying about my current tow truck it is neither under powered or under braked.

I have the Coyote 5.0 engine and it puts out 365 or 375 hp.  Coupled with a 6 speed transmission that is more than enough power for anything I would ever hook to the back of that truck. 

This truck has better brakes than any truck I've ever owned.  Giant discs at all 4 corners and they would lock up anytime if not for the ABS overriding them.  The camper axles also have excellent brakes.  Before I hauled it home from Florida I took the hubs off and checked and cleaned and lubed everything in there.  This camper had very little use and it showed in the brakes too. 

I have the gain set at 8.0 and I can bring the truck and camper to a stop going downhill using only the trailer brakes.  Probably if I turned the gain up it would stop even quicker in that situation but the 8.0 seems like a very good balance.  When it comes to braking it's actually easy to forget the trailer is back there.

There now that I've 'learned you some new things' maybe you can sleep better at night not worrying what's going on in my life...

you really need to look into what's going on in your own life!!!
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 12, 2018, 10:35:46 AM
Did you mean hear instead of here?

I plan on buying a RV when I retire.  I'm waiting for Dick's Sporting Goods to start selling them do  so i can buy from them.

Considering a country wide tour hitting the state capitals that have not passed recreational weed and organizing for the cause.

Fixed yours as well.  I get tired of the grammar and spelling police on here as well...  Don't you?
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: BigRedDog on September 12, 2018, 10:37:17 AM
Camper is for the 2 of us and the dog.  If more people come along, like my cousin, he brings his TC.

I see your are being your cynical self again.

All I'm doing is passing on my 25 years of experience, nothing more, nothing less.  Take it for what it's worth, but please quit being an a'hole.  Quit your weed thread.  Could do the same here.  I don't really give 2 shilts one way or another.

Seal maintenance applies to all RV's, yours, mine, anyone's RV.  Don't take care of it, you'll find out the hard (and expensive) way.  Lots of moldy, rotting, delaminating RV's out there.  You may have one....

Your choice entirely.  Again, I don't really care.

Ok, so you have (by your own calculation) 25 years of experience and I have 49 years and you thought you needed to try and teach me a few things :-\ :-\ :-\

I'm admit I can always learn more so I guess I'm open to suggestions.

Apparently I was not the only member that found your recent posts a little overbearing.  Great to post your personal thoughts but when you start going after other posters because they have different thoughts then I think you've overstepped.  Your ideas are all great for you and everyone else has their own ideas on what works for them. 

Different strokes for different folks. 

I am still very anxious to learn why you spend so much time parking on city streets though.  That is a new one on me although I do see it happening more and more with the homeless buying an old rig of some type and parking it on the streets and living in it.  If that's what you're doing then just say so :) :) :)

I'm also seeing that many municipalities are passing new ordinances against even parking a camping vehicle of any type on a city street so you may want to check the local ordinances before you go on your next camping adventure to the 'streets of ?'!!!
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 12, 2018, 10:38:20 AM
25 years!!!   A few months ago you were posting and telling me you had 'lots of experience'.  At 25 years you're still wet behind the ears.  Actually you were implying at the time that you had way more experience than I did but now the truth comes out.

Let's go back to the summer I got drafted...  1969.  I got my first job outside the 'tire' industry and it was in an inland marine and camper sales business.  They sold trailer boats and pop up tent campers.  I did repairs and deliveries on all of the above. 

What did you do the summer of '69?

25 years in truck campers.  in 69 I had mo Cox pull behind or could have been the Serro Scotty, don't remember which.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 12, 2018, 10:39:40 AM
Ok, so you have (by your own calculation) 25 years of experience and I have 49 years and you thought you needed to try and teach me a few things :-\ :-\ :-\

I'm admit I can always learn more so I guess I'm open to suggestions.

Apparently I was not the only member that found your recent posts a little overbearing.  Great to post your personal thoughts but when you start going after other posters because they have different thoughts then I think you've overstepped.  Your ideas are all great for you and everyone else has their own ideas on what works for them. 

Different strokes for different folks. 

I am still very anxious to learn why you spend so much time parking on city streets though.  That is a new one on me although I do see it happening more and more with the homeless buying an old rig of some type and parking it on the streets and living in it.  If that's what you're doing then just say so :) :) :)

I'm also seeing that many municipalities are passing new ordinances against even parking a camping vehicle of any type on a city street so you may want to check the local ordinances before you go on your next camping adventure to the 'streets of ?'!!!

Whatever.  As of late I find you and your comments to be without merit.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: BigRedDog on September 12, 2018, 10:40:05 AM
Fixed yours as well.  I get tired of the grammar and spelling police on here as well...  Don't you?

Been less than 2 weeks since you decided to point out my watts vs kilowatts typo...

I believe the old saying is:

(https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic/image/private/s--GkR3lGq3--/t_Preview/b_rgb:191919,c_limit,f_jpg,h_630,q_90,w_630/v1520240364/production/designs/2426941_0.jpg)
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: BigRedDog on September 12, 2018, 10:43:54 AM
in 69 I had mo Cox pull behind or could have been the Serro Scotty, don't remember which.

You probably should have kept your Scotty...   

we saw a couple of them over the weekend and they're probably worth a mint today!

(https://nationalserroscotty.org/rebuilds/scotty1/leftside.jpg)
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: BigRedDog on September 12, 2018, 10:49:44 AM
Whatever.  As of late I find you and your comments to be without merit.

That makes us even then...

every since you decided to start minding my finances instead of your own you've gotten pretty offensive.

every since you're gotten concerned about how much my truck will haul and what condition my camper is in you've become even more offensive.

What is it about me that you're puppy dogging about...

like I said before...

reminds me of you following FrenchFry around all the time.

I already have a dog that likes to follow me and I don't need another one right now. 

Go pay attention to your own finances and your own truck. 

I've gotten this far in life without any help from you and I think I can manage just fine for the rest of the trip!
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: BigRedDog on September 12, 2018, 10:56:17 AM
Whatever.  As of late I find you and your comments to be without merit.

I did ask several questions this morning throughout the thread that would allow you to extrapolate on your thoughts and explain your comments. 

Again, still anxious to hear about camping on the streets...

what cities or towns do you go to for this?
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: BigRedDog on September 12, 2018, 11:01:10 AM
Fixed yours as well.  I get tired of the grammar and spelling police on here as well...  Don't you?

So, you're one of these guys that can dish it out but can't take it?

You'd apparently like to have it both ways...

you want to comment on everyone else but don't want people commenting on your errors...

that speaks volumes about your credentials!!!
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: The Fuzz on September 12, 2018, 11:32:11 AM
Fixed yours as well.  I get tired of the grammar and spelling police on here as well...  Don't you?

No, I find returning the trivialbullshit back on those who initiate corrections in the first place.  Especially to those who I see it offends.  Correct away!
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: BigRedDog on September 13, 2018, 08:58:14 AM
Well, we've had a nice 'discussion' on the pros and cons of various style camping shelters.  Here's some info on one of the basics and old standbys.

We actually carry a small 2 person pop up tent in our camper 'just in case'.    We had a big tent when I was little and that was where I got some of my best early campground memories. 

Then I spent 21 months in the Army where I was assigned a tent but never occupied it after basic and AIT (advanced individual training or in my case it became advance infantry training).  Military tents were made of heavy and somewhat nasty material.  If you got up against the sides the coating they put on the tents to make them water repellent would rub off on you.  The upside to these tents is they would last forever!!! 

Tents have come a long way since then.  The latest ones have inflatable beams to pop them open and support them as opposed to the old telescoping tent poles we had in our family tent many years ago. 

There were a couple of these in the campgrounds where we were for Labor Day and it was pretty neat watching them 'set up'.  They still use stakes to hold them down and once it's inflated they do have a few ropes to help keep it stable if the wind happens to blow but on a calm day it would just sit still.  Many of the tents today are modular and you can just keep adding sections if you need more room.  That would be nice if you got a stretch of rainy weather.  The kids could just run back and forth.

I'm not making any endorsement for any of these particular brands.  This was just an article I saw on one of the camping forums last night.

There is at least one video of them 'setting' up a tent with what looks like a glorified bicycle pump.  I'm thinking a good leaf blower could have an adapter that would work with less human effort.

https://familycamptents.com/best-inflatable-tents-for-camping/
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 13, 2018, 09:02:54 AM
No, I find returning the trivialbullshit back on those who initiate corrections in the first place.  Especially to those who I see it offends.  Correct away!

...and you can fuckoffand die for all I care.  How's that sound toyouasshole.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: The Fuzz on September 13, 2018, 11:29:36 AM
LOL, you are so easy!

And BTW, the feeling is mutual regarding life status AND I could care less what you think of me until that day comes.

BUT.....thanks for playing along!
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 13, 2018, 08:47:19 PM
LOL, you are so easy!

And BTW, the feeling is mutual regarding life status AND I could care less what you think of me until that day comes.

BUT.....thanks for playing along!

No problem.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: BigRedDog on September 14, 2018, 08:51:20 AM
No matter what type of camping you're doing make sure you take along plenty of rope!!!

If you're backpacking then scale that back to some paracord but make sure you're carrying something for emergencies. 

I've done some neat 'creations' out in the woods with some rope and a couple of those $2 plastic tarps.  If you don't like the  blue ones or the green ones you can get them in camo too. 

I'm sure you can find it other places but I found some 'cheap' rope at TSC that has a reflective cord woven in with it.  Makes it a lot easier to see or to find in the dark.  It helps if you learn a few basic knots but if you're not a knot person then most any knot is better than no knot. 
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: eriemermaid on September 14, 2018, 10:31:15 AM
Your knot statement reminded me of how my brother put my extra electric cord in the outdoor compartment.  I wish I could remember how he did it.  It is in a bunch of -like - figure 8's and can't get tangled.  It looks so pretty I don't want to use it!  :o
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: blue2 on September 14, 2018, 11:04:27 AM
Before winding up an electric cord one needs to consult an electrician.  They all seem to have a specific wrap that won't damage the cord.  I learned the hard way once helping an electrician clean up after he was done..
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: BigRedDog on September 15, 2018, 08:20:03 AM
Before winding up an electric cord one needs to consult an electrician.  They all seem to have a specific wrap that won't damage the cord.  I learned the hard way once helping an electrician clean up after he was done..

I've seen electricians abuse extension cords too.  Lots of times they're 'do as I say and not as I do' people.


There are plenty of ways an extension cord can get damaged but a big one is just in the way they are stored when not being used.  I've seen them wound into tight little bundles with knots tied in them to keep them from un folding.  That's a good way to ruin a cord.

By far the easiest way to ruin a cord (and whatever you're trying to run) is by overloading it. 

I went over to my neighbor's one day a few months back and he had his table saw out back working on a shed.  He had about 7 or 8 extension cords all strung out from an outlet in the garage to the saw itself.  There were some very light duty cords in the mix. 

Too many plugs in itself isn't good.  They are mechanical and are frequently the first part of the cord to fail. 

I have a couple of 100 foot 20 amp cords.  If I need to go farther than that I take a generator. 

And please don't confuse a 'lamp' cord with an extension cord.  A lamp cord is frequently just two wires and a small flat cord and maybe 6 or 8 feet long.  They're for powering a 'lamp' just as the name implies but some people tend to overload them!

I remember a couple of house fires where they had them run under a rug and them had something more than a lamp plugged into them.  Instant 'no more house'!!!

Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: BigRedDog on September 15, 2018, 08:33:55 AM
Your knot statement reminded me of how my brother put my extra electric cord in the outdoor compartment.  I wish I could remember how he did it.  It is in a bunch of -like - figure 8's and can't get tangled.  It looks so pretty I don't want to use it!  :o


It might have been this one.  This is a fairly popular way to do long cords.  I'm not a big fan of it because of all the 'knots'. 

It's not too bad as long as the knots don't get pulled any tighter than what the are but it's too easy for them to get pulled tighter.

How To: No Tangle Extension Cord Storage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaEv9wm6gy0#)


I still usually just make big loops and then either tie a piece of rope around it or they have nicer ones out of velcro or some twisty ones I can't recall the name of.

If the above video doesn't do it just turn on auto play and eventually it will come to the one like your brother did.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 15, 2018, 10:18:13 AM
Never did answer my question on tongue weight on your pull behind.  Do you know?
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: BigRedDog on September 16, 2018, 09:21:35 AM
Never did answer my question on tongue weight on your pull behind.  Do you know?

Your interest in everything of mine is starting to get creepy.  Just why are you so interested in what I have and in your mind don't have?  I've asked you several direct questions too over the last few weeks that you've never addressed either.  Apparently you thing you should be held to one standard and I should be held to another? 

CREEPY, CREEPY, CREEPY!!!

One reason I won't answer is if I did you would find some way to put a 'twist' on it and try to tell me how wrong I'm doing things.  That from the guy that has zero idea of what an F-150 is rated at for towing. 

I'll go slow and try to explain this info so maybe (long shot I realize) you'll be able to understand it. 

Our camper is a 'front load' toy hauler so the tongue weight varies with what all is loaded in the toy bay.  An electric golf cart weighs more than a gasoline powered one and therefore creates increased tongue weight.  A large quad weighs more than a small quad so the tongue weight will vary from hook up to hook up depending on what is loaded into the toy bay. 

We were cruising down the road one day last winter down in Florida and I found three tires that would fit my H.  Bought them all and loaded them into the toy bay.  Adjusted the equalizer hitch to compensate for the additional tongue weight and drove 'safely' down the road.  No problems for 1200 miles and now the 'old' H has plenty of spare rubber sitting around.  And before you point out that I should have tied the tires down inside the toy bay you can sleep better tonight knowing that I always restrain my load more than appropriately.  Been doing this since I was 19 and never a real mishap to report.  Amazing what one person can do if they just take things easy and pay attention to what they're doing.

As far as "do I know the tongue weight"...   yes I do.  I have an old platform scales that I can weigh most any object I can get to it.  I'm sure your next question will be "well are your scales certified' for trade and the answer is "they are not".  I'm not selling anything at this point so I don't need them to be certified and sealed.  If I go back to selling something down the road then I will take care of that.  However, they are in great shape and more than accurate for what I'm doing.  I've weighed various combinations so I do have a base line to work from.  Again, properly adjust the weight distribution hitch and drive safely down the road. 

One of the 'off road' features on the F150 is a nice app on the dash that shows you in degrees how much the truck is leaning both side to side and front to rear.  The proper set up of an equalizer (have you ever installed and set one up...   I've done hundreds of them!) requires you to start with both the tow vehicle and the trailer to be towed sitting level on level ground.  When you're done setting it all up everything should still be level.  For years and years we had to measure the before and after heights but with the graphic on the dash I can just set it to 00' and be as close or closer than you can get with a tape measure. 

Ok, let's get this through your head...

my trailer is not overloaded...

my pickup is not overloaded plus the combo of the two has excellent braking capacity.  No problems here...

how about on your end...

can you say the same for your combo?


I guess maybe you should see if you can get a job with the state police as a weighmaster then you could put all your half vast knowledge to good use!

Are there overloaded pickups and trailers out on the road...

yes there are and I see them almost every time we're out on the road.  Maybe you should take to worrying about all of those and forget the fixation you've developed on me and my stuff.  It's unhealthy to say the least.  You really do need to seek the proper medical consultation!!! 
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: The Fuzz on September 16, 2018, 09:42:36 AM
Medical?
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: BigRedDog on September 16, 2018, 09:47:56 AM
Speaking of the various companies and combos of equalizer hitches I remember some 'schooling' I got very early on in my career.  Would have been early summer of '69 before I got drafted.  I think it was a Reese Hitch demo but the main thing is it showed how an equalizer hitch can transfer 100% of the tongue weight to the front wheels of a tow vehicle.  Now, before someone points out that this wouldn't be 'safe' to drive down the road you can be comfortable knowing this was a very low speed demo in a large parking lot.  Again, the objective was only to show how an equalizer could work...  not how it should work. 

They brought in a 1966 Toronado (one of the first 'American' front wheel drives) pulling a boat on a tandem trailer. 

They intentionally overtensioned the equalizer to the point that they could take the rear tires off the car (without needing a jack) and then drive the car and trailer (again, slowly) around the parking lot without any rear tires on the ground.  Nothing else dragging or rubbing...   just a nice smooth roll around. 

I've often wondered what ever happened to that Toronado and if the frame ever distorted.  It belonged to the man that owned the hitch company and it was supposedly his daily driver. 

Here's a picture of what looks like the same Toronado hauling a tandem axle camping trailer.  Probably they took various trailers to demo their hitches depending on what type of products were being sold at the site where the demo was being held.  We sold mostly boats so we got a boat!

(http://www.airforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=175465&d=1356813061)
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: BigRedDog on September 16, 2018, 09:50:08 AM
Medical?

Medical...   psychological...

he has some kind of sociopathic issues that need to be addressed!!!

Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: blue2 on September 16, 2018, 11:24:33 AM
Premium gas up to $3.10/gal today T Costco
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: The Fuzz on September 16, 2018, 12:13:34 PM
The differences by region always make me think WTF......Regular in Alabama is 2.41 and Premium running around 2.60.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 16, 2018, 05:36:43 PM
Your interest in everything of mine is starting to get creepy.  Just why are you so interested in what I have and in your mind don't have?  I've asked you several direct questions too over the last few weeks that you've never addressed either.  Apparently you thing you should be held to one standard and I should be held to another? 

CREEPY, CREEPY, CREEPY!!!

One reason I won't answer is if I did you would find some way to put a 'twist' on it and try to tell me how wrong I'm doing things.  That from the guy that has zero idea of what an F-150 is rated at for towing. 

I'll go slow and try to explain this info so maybe (long shot I realize) you'll be able to understand it. 

Our camper is a 'front load' toy hauler so the tongue weight varies with what all is loaded in the toy bay.  An electric golf cart weighs more than a gasoline powered one and therefore creates increased tongue weight.  A large quad weighs more than a small quad so the tongue weight will vary from hook up to hook up depending on what is loaded into the toy bay. 

We were cruising down the road one day last winter down in Florida and I found three tires that would fit my H.  Bought them all and loaded them into the toy bay.  Adjusted the equalizer hitch to compensate for the additional tongue weight and drove 'safely' down the road.  No problems for 1200 miles and now the 'old' H has plenty of spare rubber sitting around.  And before you point out that I should have tied the tires down inside the toy bay you can sleep better tonight knowing that I always restrain my load more than appropriately.  Been doing this since I was 19 and never a real mishap to report.  Amazing what one person can do if they just take things easy and pay attention to what they're doing.

As far as "do I know the tongue weight"...   yes I do.  I have an old platform scales that I can weigh most any object I can get to it.  I'm sure your next question will be "well are your scales certified' for trade and the answer is "they are not".  I'm not selling anything at this point so I don't need them to be certified and sealed.  If I go back to selling something down the road then I will take care of that.  However, they are in great shape and more than accurate for what I'm doing.  I've weighed various combinations so I do have a base line to work from.  Again, properly adjust the weight distribution hitch and drive safely down the road. 

One of the 'off road' features on the F150 is a nice app on the dash that shows you in degrees how much the truck is leaning both side to side and front to rear.  The proper set up of an equalizer (have you ever installed and set one up...   I've done hundreds of them!) requires you to start with both the tow vehicle and the trailer to be towed sitting level on level ground.  When you're done setting it all up everything should still be level.  For years and years we had to measure the before and after heights but with the graphic on the dash I can just set it to 00' and be as close or closer than you can get with a tape measure. 

Ok, let's get this through your head...

my trailer is not overloaded...

my pickup is not overloaded plus the combo of the two has excellent braking capacity.  No problems here...

how about on your end...

can you say the same for your combo?


I guess maybe you should see if you can get a job with the state police as a weighmaster then you could put all your half vast knowledge to good use!

Are there overloaded pickups and trailers out on the road...

yes there are and I see them almost every time we're out on the road.  Maybe you should take to worrying about all of those and forget the fixation you've developed on me and my stuff.  It's unhealthy to say the least.  You really do need to seek the proper medical consultation!!!

Fuckoff...  I don't really give a shilt what you do, who you do t to or how many times for that matter.  If you are toting a toyhauler with a 150, you are overloaded simple fact.  Myself, I have a ONE TON, not a grocery getter and my camper loaded and ready to go (water tank full, HWH full, 2 batteries, generator and 2 propane tanks plus our gear weighs a bit less than 2800 pounds, well within the capabilities of my truck.

Guess I'm done with this thread as well.  Have a great day and KMA.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: The Fuzz on September 16, 2018, 07:55:10 PM
5......4.........3.........2..........1
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: BigRedDog on September 17, 2018, 09:32:32 AM
5......4.........3.........2..........1

Fuckoff...  I don't really give a shilt what you do, who you do t to or how many times for that matter.  If you are toting a toyhauler with a 150, you are overloaded simple fact.  Myself, I have a ONE TON, not a grocery getter and my camper loaded and ready to go (water tank full, HWH full, 2 batteries, generator and 2 propane tanks plus our gear weighs a bit less than 2800 pounds, well within the capabilities of my truck.

Guess I'm done with this thread as well.  Have a great day and KMA.

And we have 'liftoff' right on time!!!

Flip must be a salesman's delight as predictable as he is ;D ;D ;D

Flip, this is about the 3rd or 4th time now you've told me you're finished and yet you keep returning just like a yo-yo!

F-150, 250, 350, 450...

it's all about the GVW and max towing capacity.  Nothing more, nothing less.  I do haul groceries in mine as a matter of fact but I also haul anything else I want to and I haul it very, very safely. 

Maybe you should make a trip through a real campground one of these busy weekends.  Most of the pickups you see hauling campers are Ford F-150s.  There's a reason it's the most popular pickup in the US of A and that is at least in part because of it's versatility. 

Number wise the next in line are the Dodge 1500s.  I haven't owned a Dodge in years but the one I did own was a pretty decent truck for the money.  Next is the Ford Super Duty but those are typically hauling the big fifth wheel campers. 

Anyway, now all the other posters can see exactly why I wasn't just going to give you solid numbers for my tongue weight and that is because I already figured out (because you're getting predictable) that you just wanted to work it around to where you could say (yet again) that your truck is bigger than my truck.  Sorry, I've never played that game.  I buy what I want for what I need and the main focus is always on doing the job safely. 

You need to go spend your time lecturing to someone that has less experience than you do and that isn't me either!!!

I'll be sure and let you know when I have my first crash caused by an overloaded vehicle and my best guess is it will be the 'other guy' that was overloaded and at fault!!!

Sorry to see you go (again)!  Don't let the door hit you on the backside!

Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: eriemermaid on September 19, 2018, 10:06:56 PM
That was almost the way my brother did it, but there was not a knot to begin with. :) Thanks for the clip!

Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: BigRedDog on September 21, 2018, 06:33:16 AM
That was almost the way my brother did it, but there was not a knot to begin with. :) Thanks for the clip!

I'm sure there are lots of variations on that general 'weave'.  There are other YouTubes that show some of them.  Watch and learn and then 'weave your own'.

Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: eriemermaid on September 22, 2018, 04:58:16 PM
Thanks BRD
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: BigRedDog on September 24, 2018, 06:01:33 PM
Part of RV living is reading about when you're not in your RV.  I subscribe to this newsletter and I've found some pretty good info. 

I'm sure Flip doesn't think it's any good and all the info is wrong and all his normal negative comments but read it and decide for yourself.  Maybe he'll jump in and post some of the newsletters he reads (or at least looks at because he seems to have trouble comprehending most everything he reads)!

https://rvtravel.com/rv-travel-newsletter-issue-864/
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: BigRedDog on September 24, 2018, 07:44:13 PM
I use rope for a lot of things but when we're camping I use it even more.  There are not too many things you can use a piece of rope for without eventually having to tie a knot or three.  You can get by most times tying a 'what knot' but you may have to whip out an axe (Flip will probably jump in to tell me I spelled it wrong but both spellings are acceptable to most ordinary people) or a knife and cut the knot out when you're done with it.  That means your ropes are getting shorter and shorter over time. 

Anyway, a few various sizes and types of rope should be in your camping supplies somewhere! 

Before you go do some studying up on your knots.  Plenty of sources including youtube. 

Plus you never know when you might want to practice a few '50 Shades' moves ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: eriemermaid on September 26, 2018, 09:33:45 PM
Thanks for the link BRD.  It looks like it will be interesting reading on those rainy days inside!
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: cabinfever87 on April 18, 2019, 09:50:31 PM
Haha, loved the phrase 'being packed in like sardines", thats absolutely true and i also am not sure how they were able to fit so many people inside.

We used to own an RV camper but we traded ours in for a rooftop tent in the summer of 2014. its been pretty good so far and weve seen some amazing sights, but weve found ourselves missing the old camper to be honest.

Were hoping to get back out there and keep saving for a new one soon, any suggestions for a decent RV this time of year.

Weve been looking at trucktents , rooftop tents suv tents also, but there is many comparisons to be made.

Actually this website covered them quite well, but hey didnt have an article on RV's at all yet.
Any suggestions from you guys would be great.

https://thetenthub.com/automotive/roof-top-tents/ (https://thetenthub.com/automotive/roof-top-tents/)
https://thetenthub.com/automotive/truck-bed-tent/ (https://thetenthub.com/automotive/truck-bed-tent/)
https://thetenthub.com/automotive/suv-tent/ (https://thetenthub.com/automotive/suv-tent/)
https://thetenthub.com/ (https://thetenthub.com/)
https://thetenthub.com/camping-tents/best-instant-tents/ (https://thetenthub.com/camping-tents/best-instant-tents/)

Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 18, 2019, 11:20:21 PM
Spring is the worst time to buy anything RV.  Best time is fall.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: blue2 on April 19, 2019, 09:43:40 AM
I've never been one to camp or even use an RV.  Maybe the Army ruined me.  I had to live in a tent in South Carolina with maybe 12 other guys for the month of Jan. And of course almost every night one of the guys charged with keeping the fire going fell asleep and we'd wake up frozen.  Then in Georgia later on I had to bunk in a tent again for a couple of months but it was warmer then.  The Army was inconvenient enough but sleeping in a tent made it worse.  Maybe they were just getting us ready for life in VN.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 19, 2019, 05:43:18 PM
I spent my young adult life as an Eagle Scout and slept in a tent in the middle of the forest alone many a night.  I get my best night's sleep in an RV in the woods but not sleeping on the ground.  Our RV isn't fancy like the decked out RV's you see.  The only 'convenience' in ours is a flush toilet and shower for Amy.  I can go in the woods just fine.

Ours sits in the back of the pickup truck (truck camper) so I can go anywhere my 4 wheel drive will take me.  Has a Fridge for keeping food cold, a cooktop for cooking, sink for dishes and the toilet.  Has a queen sized bed and roof air (but I never use that).  Carries 25 gallons of fresh water and a furnace if you have a cool morning too.  The top folds town so in transport it's only about 6" higher than the top of the cab.  Don't even know it's back there.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: blue2 on April 19, 2019, 06:32:04 PM
My granddaughter send pictures of the new cardboard tents for 2 that people were using at Coachella.  Waterproof at that although it unlikely to rain in the calif desert.  When done just smash up the tent and recycle if you don't want to haul it home..
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 19, 2019, 08:29:58 PM
Cardboard tent.....lol  Never heard of such a thing.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: Monroe Native on April 28, 2019, 08:09:55 PM
Cardboard tent.....lol  Never heard of such a thing.

I've seen alot of "cardboard" tents in use in Detroit.

Used in all seasons.

I remember one that was covered in snow - but the occupant seemed to be doing just fine.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 29, 2019, 10:09:12 AM
I've seen alot of "cardboard" tents in use in Detroit.

Used in all seasons.

I remember one that was covered in snow - but the occupant seemed to be doing just fine.

Wet corrugated cardboard stinks but then I would imagine street people stink too..... :o  I say 'I imagine' because I've never been that close to any to smell them (I know that sounds like a Biden thing), I apologize for that.  Closest I've been to a 'street person' in in Detroit by Dumo's.  Been asked for a smoke before but I'm always armed in those situations so I keep my distance anyway.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: Monroe Native on April 29, 2019, 06:45:58 PM
Wet corrugated cardboard stinks but then I would imagine street people stink too..... :o  I say 'I imagine' because I've never been that close to any to smell them (I know that sounds like a Biden thing), I apologize for that.  Closest I've been to a 'street person' in in Detroit by Dumo's.  Been asked for a smoke before but I'm always armed in those situations so I keep my distance anyway.

Always stay upwind.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: blue2 on April 29, 2019, 08:00:17 PM
They do have a particular odor.  For years there was a lady in Toledo we that worked downtown all called the "Bag Lady". She was always around downtown. Pretty sure she was homeless but not sure where she slept..
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 30, 2019, 03:26:17 AM
They do have a particular odor.  For years there was a lady in Toledo we that worked downtown all called the "Bag Lady". She was always around downtown. Pretty sure she was homeless but not sure where she slept..

Maybe she carried her home in a bag.... ;D
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: blue2 on April 30, 2019, 07:51:56 AM
She did and after she got up in years she pushed it around in a grocery cart..
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: Monroe Native on April 30, 2019, 06:14:33 PM
I am not sure why some people to chose to live like that, but I suspect it has much to do with mental illness.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 01, 2019, 03:28:15 PM
Lots do.  Some advantages...

Pay no taxes
No mortgage payment
No utility bills
No insurance
No putting up with relatives
No alarm clock
 

Not all that bad really.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 01, 2019, 03:28:59 PM
Cardboard still stinks when wet...... ;D
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: Monroe Native on May 01, 2019, 07:09:30 PM
Lots do.  Some advantages...

Pay no taxes
No mortgage payment
No utility bills
No insurance
No putting up with relatives
No alarm clock
 

Not all that bad really.

I read today that some rich azz in Frisco is going to spend Millions to answer the question of why people want to be bums.

Can't wait to hear the results.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 01, 2019, 07:53:40 PM
If I could deal with it, I'd live in a cardboard box as well.  Like I said, they stink when wet.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: Monroe Native on May 01, 2019, 08:22:31 PM
If I could deal with it, I'd live in a cardboard box as well.  Like I said, they stink when wet.

It seems to me you got it pretty good with Catlady.

 ;D
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 01, 2019, 09:35:22 PM
It seems to me you got it pretty good with Catlady.

 ;D

10-4
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: eriemermaid on July 03, 2019, 04:44:55 PM
Alaska is sure beautiful, but the dang smoke from the fires up here are ruining my pictures!
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 03, 2019, 06:51:58 PM
Alaska is nice but getting there via the road is a challenge.  A cruise is also nice but with a cruise you don't get to see all the good stuff.

Our very good friends took the RV (truck camper) like my wife and I have and spent 3 months in Alaska last year.  They even sent us back 25 pounds of fresh Halibut from a fishing trip they went on.

While not on my bucket list because there are so many places to visit in the lower 48, I wouldn't mind going to Alaska but only in an RV like we own on a 4 wheel drive pickup truck.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: blue2 on July 03, 2019, 08:55:29 PM
I've been told if one is going sightseeing and not worry about hotel/motel the best alternative is the camper mounted on a pickup as maneuvering a motorhome or 5th wheel is just to much of a challenge.
Title: Re: Camping tips, questions, suggestions and general discussion.
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 04, 2019, 09:45:07 AM
We sure like ours and the best part is, it's stored in the garage when not in use.  What kills any RV is when they sit out in the weather.  After a while they tend to leak because owners never maintain the roof seals.  Why I own what I own.  My intent was to keep it inside when not in use and I wasn't about to pay for an indoor storage spit (If I could find one around here).

I see so many TT and 5'ers and moho's sitting outside, summer and winter, in the elements, slowly turning into expensive junk.  Once they start to leak, they rot from the inside out.

We can park ours anywhere, residential streets included and out 'house' is always with us.  old drinks or a potty break is in the back.