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Title: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 19, 2018, 10:27:20 AM
I find it amazing how dysfunctional the government is today.  The conformation is nothing but a Democrat inspired circus.  If I was Brett Kavanaugh, I'd say heck with it and withdraw.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: The Fuzz on September 19, 2018, 12:07:48 PM
It's the most insane thing I've seen for this process since Anita Hill and Clarence Thomas.  This one is worse, and strategically planned to delay.  Travesty of our system IMO.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on September 19, 2018, 04:41:39 PM
The republicans should do what the democrats would have done by now.  Just confirm him and tell them to STFU
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: John Kopke on September 19, 2018, 07:20:32 PM
It's the most insane thing I've seen for this process since Anita Hill and Clarence Thomas.  This one is worse, and strategically planned to delay.  Travesty of our system IMO.

Plus 1.

For Feinstein to have sprung this charge at the end of Kavanaugh hearing was low down, and despicable. Appears 200 women who know K. have signed letters attesting to his character. How many, besides this woman, have come out to trash Kavanaugh's character? Zero. Hey men of the forum, how many women would come forward to attest to your fine character, not counting your mother. Sidecar, I'll let you count your Mother so you don't get shut out. (That's a joke, don't want to get on wrong side of Side)   
 
He's had 6 FBI background checks over his career. No problem. The ABA, (American Bar Assoc.) somewhat liberal outfit, gave highest marks.

From what I've read on this man he's a straight arrow. This 36 year old
allegation is not credible enough to outweigh a man's adult lifetime of
outstanding character which is evident, and can be proven.   
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: BigRedDog on September 19, 2018, 07:43:28 PM
I find it amazing how dysfunctional the government is today.  The conformation is nothing but a Democrat inspired circus.  If I was Brett Kavanaugh, I'd say heck with it and withdraw.


Do you by some chance mean 'confirmation'?

I know you're having trouble with your reading comprehension lately (apparently even reading your own writing) so I found you a nice little video to make it easier for you to figure out.

I'm glad you enjoy pointing out everyone else's errors so therefore you sure shouldn't have any problem with anyone pointing out your errors!!!

And you can drop the usual reference to KMA... 

you're just not my type...

sorry!!!

What Is The Difference Between Conformation And Confirmation? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOZeZbmu30k#)
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Monroe Native on September 19, 2018, 07:48:09 PM
Wow.  Thanks for the Spelling Police intervention.

It's like some people look for things to criticize. 

Guess it makes them feel better about themselves?

I say whatever helps you get out of bed in the morning....

I enjoyed Hillary's comment that all rape victims should be heard.  She has changed her position for sure!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on September 19, 2018, 07:58:58 PM
Democrats looking for major investigation into something that might have happened 35 years ago at a party of drunk high school kids. And the woman that made the acquisition now doesn't want to be interviewed. And another guy who may have been there doesn't want to talk.  But dems want to continue with another witch hunt.  Repubs better get a spine.
And speaking of drunks what were the consequences when Teddy Kennedy drove off a bridge with a female not his wife and left her to drown in the canal.  He went on to be a stalwart in the U.S. Senate and even ran for President.  The liberals have short memories
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 19, 2018, 08:22:48 PM
Do you by some chance mean 'confirmation'?

I know you're having trouble with your reading comprehension lately (apparently even reading your own writing) so I found you a nice little video to make it easier for you to figure out.

I'm glad you enjoy pointing out everyone else's errors so therefore you sure shouldn't have any problem with anyone pointing out your errors!!!

And you can drop the usual reference to KMA... 

you're just not my type...

sorry!!!

What Is The Difference Between Conformation And Confirmation? ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOZeZbmu30k#[/url])


Here we go again....  You knew what I meant but you just had to be a smart arse anyway.  Think I'll put you on ignore so I don't have to read your shitte anymore.  Go play fireman and don't get burned.  Have a nice day. ;D
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 19, 2018, 08:26:34 PM
Wow.  Thanks for the Spelling Police intervention.

It's like some people look for things to criticize. 

Guess it makes them feel better about themselves?

I say whatever helps you get out of bed in the morning....

I enjoyed Hillary's comment that all rape victims should be heard.  She has changed her position for sure!

She's groveling for votes for the party.  Wonder if Slick Willie's victims will be heard as well?

Appearing on Rachael Madcow's show isn't saying much, if anything.  I rate Madcow, the Young Turks and BRD all in the same sector.  All get ignored.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: BigRedDog on September 19, 2018, 08:43:09 PM
Here we go again....  You knew what I meant but you just had to be a smart arse anyway.  Think I'll put you on ignore so I don't have to read your shitte anymore.  Go play fireman and don't get burned.  Have a nice day. ;D

I've suggested for years that 'you people' just ignore everything you aren't big enough to read but everyone has always ignored my suggestions! 

Do whatever you want, you're certainly old enough to make a decision of that magnitude. 

Yes, and a couple of years back when you started in on this 'kick' and pointed out that I had spelled 'sulphur' WRONG you also knew exactly what i meant too...   but you wanted to start something...

apparently another one of those things you can start but you can't finish. 

Old saying...  "if you can't take the heat then stay out of the kitchen"

Ironically I have a nice map of LaSalle Township on the wall of my office and right there it's showing Sulphur Creek...

nothing sulfur about that is there? 

Apparently you only want to play this game when you think it favors you... 

I have a word for people like that but not sure it would be tolerated here.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: The Fuzz on September 19, 2018, 08:46:49 PM
Plus 1.

For Feinstein to have sprung this charge at the end of Kavanaugh hearing was low down, and despicable. Appears 200 women who know K. have signed letters attesting to his character. How many, besides this woman, have come out to trash Kavanaugh's character? Zero. Hey men of the forum, how many women would come forward to attest to your fine character, not counting your mother. Sidecar, I'll let you count your Mother so you don't get shut out. (That's a joke, don't want to get on wrong side of Side)   
 
He's had 6 FBI background checks over his career. No problem. The ABA, (American Bar Assoc.) somewhat liberal outfit, gave highest marks.

From what I've read on this man he's a straight arrow. This 36 year old
allegation is not credible enough to outweigh a man's adult lifetime of
outstanding character which is evident, and can be proven.   

I think this is criminal, not literally, but at least documented officially as unacceptable behavior or even censor.  It's a true embarrassment to our government.  Childish!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: BigRedDog on September 19, 2018, 08:51:09 PM
Wow.  Thanks for the Spelling Police intervention.

It's like some people look for things to criticize. 

Guess it makes them feel better about themselves?

I say whatever helps you get out of bed in the morning....

I enjoyed Hillary's comment that all rape victims should be heard.  She has changed her position for sure!

So...

now you're flip's puppy dog!   

He keeps telling me to KHA but it looks like he's got you doing it :o :o :o

Apparently you're another one of these guys that it's more important as to "who's right" than it is "what's right".

I didn't see you commenting with your wise cracks over the last couple of years when your big butt buddy was trying to correct all my errors he thought I was making although he did finally catch me a few weeks ago on the watts vs. kilowatts...   where were you when he was pointing that out ??? ??? ???

Probably hard to read the forum when your nose is buried in flips backside though :-\ :-\ :-\

So, I guess if you two are going to start playing tag team I better go find a partner too!

Here's a word I'm intentionally spelling wrong...

it's bawls...   

phonetically it will sound the same though!

Apparently if you can't tell flip the same thing then you just don't have any ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 19, 2018, 11:38:43 PM
I think this is criminal, not literally, but at least documented officially as unacceptable behavior or even censor.  It's a true embarrassment to our government.  Childish!

I find it amazing the latitude that elected officials go to to twist the truth into what they want it to look like.  Feinstein is a shining example of that.

Said before, if I was Kavanaugh, I'd voluntarily withdraw from consideration.  Pretty sure that if he does get the seat, he won't forget what a witch Feinstein is.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: BigRedDog on September 20, 2018, 07:15:49 AM
Wow.  Thanks for the Spelling Police intervention.

It's like some people look for things to criticize. 

Guess it makes them feel better about themselves?

I say whatever helps you get out of bed in the morning....

I enjoyed Hillary's comment that all rape victims should be heard.  She has changed her position for sure!

Here we go again....  You knew what I meant but you just had to be a smart arse anyway.  Think I'll put you on ignore so I don't have to read your shitte anymore.  Go play fireman and don't get burned. Have a nice day. ;D

Apparently your reading comprehension just isn't improving with age.  Maybe I can find you a video that will explain it to the point you can understand it.

Maybe tell that to your local firefighters (men and women) when they show up to take care of your other knee when you decide to go out and 'play' logger again.  Maybe it's time we did a background check for people to purchase a chain saw! 

Still waiting for MN to condemn flip for his prior attacks... 

or is this another game of 'we want it both ways'...  one way for us (the tag team) and the other way for everyone else on the forum!!!

So, what finally 'flipped' with Flip that he had to bring you in to help him out...

he must have let you know he was losing the 'war of words' and that he needed some help ;D ;D ;D

And so MN came charging along blindly into the middle of a discussion that was really none of his concern...

but his buddy couldn't handle one old man by himself so MN 'jumped in'. 


I think there's a named psychological trait for people that want things both ways.  Maybe I can even find a video so both of you can get something out of it :o :o :o

Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: The Fuzz on September 20, 2018, 07:46:57 AM
I find it amazing the latitude that elected officials go to to twist the truth into what they want it to look like.  Feinstein is a shining example of that.

Said before, if I was Kavanaugh, I'd voluntarily withdraw from consideration.  Pretty sure that if he does get the seat, he won't forget what a witch Feinstein is.


Supreme Court Justice is a cherished position within the lawyer community I would imagine, and he would have been old enough to watch the equally brutal process that Clarence Thomas went through.  I guess it's a matter of what price you are willing to pay to reach the highest level within your profession.

Fienstien is representative of D Party leadership.......Pelosi, Schumer, Waters.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on September 20, 2018, 02:56:17 PM
Unless it's fake news i see a pic of the college professor from California protesting Trump a year or two ago.  I've heard she doesn't remember that but does remember the details from 36 years ago when she was probably a drunk teenager at a party..
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Monroe Native on September 20, 2018, 04:58:36 PM
Apparently your reading comprehension just isn't improving with age.  Maybe I can find you a video that will explain it to the point you can understand it.

Maybe tell that to your local firefighters (men and women) when they show up to take care of your other knee when you decide to go out and 'play' logger again.  Maybe it's time we did a background check for people to purchase a chain saw! 

Still waiting for MN to condemn flip for his prior attacks... 

or is this another game of 'we want it both ways'...  one way for us (the tag team) and the other way for everyone else on the forum!!!

So, what finally 'flipped' with Flip that he had to bring you in to help him out...

he must have let you know he was losing the 'war of words' and that he needed some help ;D ;D ;D

And so MN came charging along blindly into the middle of a discussion that was really none of his concern...

but his buddy couldn't handle one old man by himself so MN 'jumped in'. 


I think there's a named psychological trait for people that want things both ways.  Maybe I can even find a video so both of you can get something out of it :o :o :o

I never thought I'd see the day you would become the board bully.

However - welcome to being the board bully BRD.

I hope it helps you feel whatever it is you need to feel.

Please don't feel like you need to respond - because frankly I don't care whatever it is you have to say.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 20, 2018, 10:37:33 PM
I never thought I'd see the day you would become the board bully.

However - welcome to being the board bully BRD.

I hope it helps you feel whatever it is you need to feel.

Please don't feel like you need to respond - because frankly I don't care whatever it is you have to say.

I think he has a fart crossways.....

If he only knew (but I'm not telling him and neither are you...)
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 20, 2018, 10:42:47 PM
Unless it's fake news i see a pic of the college professor from California protesting Trump a year or two ago.  I've heard she doesn't remember that but does remember the details from 36 years ago when she was probably a drunk teenager at a party..

She's a never Trumper and it's been documented.  I think the whole thing is just a smoke screen to put off the confirming of Kavanaugh (there, I was more careful about spelling it right)....

Amazing how she can remember what happened 36 years ago in detail but one of the people who was there at the time has an entirely different story.

The whole thing smells fishy to me.  The Republicans need to put the 'Big Boy Pants' on and exercise the nuclear option and confirm Kavanaugh.  That would settle it once and for all.

Never thought I'd say it but, the Republicans are bigger puzzy's than the Dems are.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 20, 2018, 10:45:12 PM
I think he has a fart crossways.....

If he only knew (but I'm not telling him and neither are you...)

and if you do slip it out, I'll drive up there and light you up.  You know and I know and no one else needs to know.  Not for public consumption.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: BigRedDog on September 21, 2018, 06:30:54 AM
I never thought I'd see the day you would become the board bully.

However - welcome to being the board bully BRD.

I hope it helps you feel whatever it is you need to feel.

Please don't feel like you need to respond - because frankly I don't care whatever it is you have to say.

A.  YOU still are dancing around the issue of your 'double standards'.  One standard for you and your 'buddy' and a different standard.  Again, that is caring about 'who' is wrong rather than 'what' is wrong. 

Accusing me of bullying before you even address what I've pointed out to you is kind of the way you've always been though.  You're wrong and you know you're wrong so you're going on the offense and calling me a bully. 

Believe me, this is not bullying.  If you think this is bullying I've go a few forums you better stay far, far away from!!!

Just don't worry about who the big bully is...

instead own up to what all you've done wrong and the forum will be in pretty good shape.  It's been getting quite a few extra views recently...   people love a bit of drama I guess!!!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 21, 2018, 08:25:25 AM
cannot see your comment but I will say....  whatever.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: John Kopke on September 21, 2018, 07:56:54 PM
Big Red:

What's the deal with sparking, and then persisting in a nonsense pissing contest. Come on. Everybody, just let it go. All it does is get you all riled up where insults escalate. Think about it. All this turmoil over a freaking spelling error! Life's to short, and beside there's a ton of really important things to cross swords over.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 21, 2018, 09:23:39 PM
I have him on ignore so if I don't want to read his drivel I don't.  If I do, I can open it.  Real elementary for me.

It's gotten very old.

Back to my thread as I am the OP, I feel the whole Kavanaugh fiasco has gotten extremely out of hand.  I have seriousd doubts about the sincerity of the Ford lady.  One, she's a devoted and documented Never Trumper, she's a liberal educator and I highly doubt her memory is all that good anyway.  Smells to me like a Democrat smear job. 

Feinstein had possession of the letter in June but never produced it until the 11th hour.  I bet Schumer saw it in June when Fienstein first got it and he told Feinstein to sit on t until the last minute and then produce it to throw a monkey wrench in the conformation proceedings.

It appears to me that the Democrats are desperate and will stoop[ to any lows to tarnish Trump or anyone associated with him.

Pretty sad state of affairs on Pennsylvania Avenue.

Far as I'm concerned the Republicans should exercise the nuclear option and confirm Kavanaugh and get on with the business of government...  if they can that is.

I suspect the general public has had a belly full of this political grandstanding.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on September 22, 2018, 09:15:01 AM
I read somewhere that the liberal college professor didn't really want to make any of this public but then why did she even bring it up.  It's sounding like Fienstein duped her.  The alleged incident may have come up in a drunken conversation and someone captured it.  I saw a recent pic of the college professor apparently passed out at a pool party with only part of her swimsuit on.  Maybe it's fake so i'll not post it..
I'm guessing the professor backs out and drops the charge.  Being a professor in Calif anything she does to disrupt Trump whether right or wrong is not going to tarnish her.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 22, 2018, 09:39:47 AM
Sounds to me like her patina is already somewhat dull....  Read she's getting death threats and had to move out of her home.  Whether you believe that, remains to be seen, I don't.  I tend to look at that as media play up from the 'professional journalists that inhabit media outlets today.  If it sounds good, make it good, even if it's a lie.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: BigRedDog on September 22, 2018, 09:54:14 AM
Big Red:

What's the deal with sparking, and then persisting in a nonsense pissing contest. Come on. Everybody, just let it go. All it does is get you all riled up where insults escalate. Think about it. All this turmoil over a freaking spelling error! Life's to short, and beside there's a ton of really important things to cross swords over.

So, flip getting MN involved didn't go anywhere so now you're jumping on the bandwagon.  Apparently both MN and you realize Flip is way over his head.

First off, it wasn't the spelling error at all.  If you would have been following along for a few years you would have probably realized that but deciding to just give your 2 cents worth on the spur of the moment brings you pretty late to the party.

One thing to make a spelling error and quite another to use a completely 'wrong' word in a thread title when the word completely changes the meaning of the title.

Do you even know the difference between 'conforming' and 'confirming'?  One small letter vs. one big meaning...   if that's what you call a spelling error I sure hope you're not proof reading legal documents for an attorney.

To you bean counters that would be the equivalent of moving a decimal point a few places left or right.  It's still on the same page but it has completely changed the value of the document. 

As I pointed out earlier to MN (did you actually go back and read anything or just 'jump' when Flip yelled "jump"?) you haven't bothered to posts any criticism of flips ongoing attacks on 'my' posting errors...  (watts vs. kilo watts...  I'd think for a bean counter that would have really raised your ire but I never heard a word from you on that one).

It appears this is a lot more about who is 'right' (you're saying it's ok for Flip to be critical but everyone else should give Flip lots of leeway to make errors)...   than 'what' is right.

The old 'double standard'!!!

Whenever you and MN are ready to admit that I'm right and Flip is wrong and post that then I'll think about calling off the dogs.  For now though, all your 'intervention' is doing is throwing gasoline on the fire!!!

It's not Flip's spelling errors that really concern me as much as his 'stalking' efforts...

not sure why he has recently taken such an interest in me and my personal business and my supposed 'lack of money' but he sure keeps on a posting about it.  Makes me wonder if he's out driving by my house at night? 

The man has something wrong and if you're truly a friend of his you need to encourage him to get some counseling or see an appropriate doctor or something...   his actions are not 'normal'.

Ok, up to you and Monroe Native for now...

what's it going to be...

what's right or who is right?

Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 22, 2018, 10:00:14 AM
I opened your comment (in hopes that it was constructive), I see it's not and I should have just left it on ignore....

Get over it. and quit acting like a 2 year old.  No one cares except you and in reality, if you were acting your age, you'd have let it go long ago
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: The Fuzz on September 22, 2018, 10:01:55 AM
I have no dog (irony) in this race, but watched how the friction started and developed.  BRD, same as me, was grammar and spelling corrected several times before anything was said in retaliation, AND questions of who had the most level of expertise of every matter debated.  LOL, even I was told that it was hoped I'd lose my job just because I supported the pot initiative. 

There are some on here who simply get chastised just for stating their opinion, and then take it to a personal level.

My view, I fully understand BRD's defense of himself.

GO POT, GO ELECTRIC VEHICLES, GO RENEWABLE ENERGY!

Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: BigRedDog on September 22, 2018, 10:23:44 AM
I opened your comment (in hopes that it was constructive), I see it's not and I should have just left it on ignore....

Get over it. and quit acting like a 2 year old.  No one cares except you and in reality, if you were acting your age, you'd have let it go long ago

Says the dude that just posted about me having 'half a brain' in another thread!!!

You're the one that started all 'a couple of years back and lately you've escalated it.  I'm just protesting!!!

I want you to take a few minutes and explain to me your sudden interest in what you have posted a few times "my lack of money"!!!

The underlying issue somehow is that anyone that isn't the same as you or on your financial level is somehow less worthy.

Come on...   tell us all why you've taken on this sudden interest in me and my 'lack of money'...

what business is any of that of yours?

Have I ever asked to borrow a dollar from you?

Why are you puppy dogging me?

Just grow up and be a real man and let everyone else live their lives.  Stop trying to impose your standards on the rest of the population!!!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: BigRedDog on September 22, 2018, 10:41:27 AM
I opened your comment (in hopes that it was constructive), I see it's not and I should have just left it on ignore....

Get over it. and quit acting like a 2 year old.  No one cares except you and in reality, if you were acting your age, you'd have let it go long ago

You just keep going with the 'double standards'...

you really do believe that you're better than me don't you?

In one thread not 5 minutes before you posted the above you were posting about me having "half a brain" and then you turn right around and say I shouldn't be acting like you are!!!

Why should i be held to any different standards than what you are? 

Give some good answers on why you think you're a better person.

Apparently you think it's all about money and you think your 'Mr. Moneybags' status makes you a better person somehow.

I have no idea of knowing how much money you have and I doubt you have any way of knowing how much I have since I'm not exactly sure myself and yet you keep taking digs at what you perceive as my lack of money.  I will tell you that in many cases perception can be wrong!

Did you ever look at the pickup Sam Walton drove while he was building a financial empire? 

Go look that up and quit following me around!!!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 22, 2018, 11:13:12 AM
I have no dog (irony) in this race, but watched how the friction started and developed.  BRD, same as me, was grammar and spelling corrected several times before anything was said in retaliation, AND questions of who had the most level of expertise of every matter debated.  LOL, even I was told that it was hoped I'd lose my job just because I supported the pot initiative. 

There are some on here who simply get chastised just for stating their opinion, and then take it to a personal level.

My view, I fully understand BRD's defense of himself.

GO POT, GO ELECTRIC VEHICLES, GO RENEWABLE ENERGY!

I don't much care one way or another..

Lets add..

Go Third World Country
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: The Fuzz on September 22, 2018, 11:17:52 AM
I'm trying to get the connection between Pot, Electric Vehicles, and Renewable Energy relate to Third World Countries?  And sincerely being honest, I really don't care one way or the other either.....in particular what you think!  We have opposing views Flip, why take it to insulting personal levels?  That is the heartburn some have for you.....no respect for their opinions.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 22, 2018, 11:18:09 AM
I see DJT weighed in on the Kavanaugh fiasco.  I would agree in principle with his assertion that if Kavanaugh had really attempted to violate Ms. Ford back then, her parents would have filed charges or she would have reported it herself to authorities.  Neither happened.  That tells me it was a party time thing with some cheap feels and nothing more.

Whole thing is getting tedious at least for me.  Time to move on and confirm the appointment.  If anything, Feinstein needs to be censured for with holding pertinent information for a protracted amount of time for personal or party gain.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: The Fuzz on September 22, 2018, 11:22:28 AM
I agree, and thanks for jumping on my bandwagon.  I posted a few days ago that censor should be considered.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 22, 2018, 11:22:38 AM
I'm trying to get the connection between Pot, Electric Vehicles, and Renewable Energy relate to Third World Countries?  And sincerely being honest, I really don't care one way or the other either.....in particular what you think!  We have opposing views Flip, why take it to insulting personal levels?  That is the heartburn some have for you.....no respect for their opinions.

Pretty simple really.  Pot, electric vehicles and renewable energy all smack of liberal politics and liberals would like nothing better than to remake this country into another third world hovel.  Think about that.

I know you don't want that to happen.  You's lose your cushy job and salary and be a worker bee, working for the government at a fixed income.  Don't sound like your thing to me, but then we do have opposing viewpoints and always will.  Opposing viewpoints is what makes any forum enjoyable to read, even this one with it's narrow group of participants.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 22, 2018, 11:23:51 AM
I need to go do some constructive work.  Have a nice day and enjoy the cooler weather.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: The Fuzz on September 22, 2018, 11:34:03 AM
Pretty simple really.  Pot, electric vehicles and renewable energy all smack of liberal politics and liberals would like nothing better than to remake this country into another third world hovel.  Think about that.

I know you don't want that to happen.  You's lose your cushy job and salary and be a worker bee, working for the government at a fixed income.  Don't sound like your thing to me, but then we do have opposing viewpoints and always will.  Opposing viewpoints is what makes any forum enjoyable to read, even this one with it's narrow group of participants.

LOL, thanks for playing the game......this is like beating my children at Candy Land!

You know nothing about me Flip, what I do, how much I make, manufacturing contributions in my career, if I am a D or R or Independent, a conservative or liberal, all you do is jump to conclusions anytime I say anything that does not fit your narrative. 

Once again, taking it to a personal level by wishing ill-will on me and my family simply because you and I don't agree.  What kind of person is that.....I say weak!

Sooo.......liberals are in charge of the companies that are starting renewable energy, legalization of Pot (you are in the minority nowadays), and electric vehicles?  I thought they were capitalist seizing the opportunity of where things are headed in the future.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 22, 2018, 04:19:29 PM
But I do, you are short, smoke dope and play cat and mouse with your employer.  Don't need to know anymore.  Don't want to either.

If I passed you on the street chances are I would not acknowledge you even if I recognized you.  IOW, don't give a hoot.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: The Fuzz on September 22, 2018, 05:54:30 PM
LMAO....so so easy!

If I passed you on the street I have no doubt in my mind, no chance, I would not acknowledge you.....just as I would Nancy Pelosi or Maxine Waters.

You know NOTHING about me and my work and my standing with my employer.....and quite glad you don't.  People like you do like some have on here in contacting an employer and shooting off at the mouth about something you are totally clueless on.  But then again, that's what you do.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Monroe Native on September 22, 2018, 09:36:40 PM
LMAO....so so easy!

If I passed you on the street I have no doubt in my mind, no chance, I would not acknowledge you.....just as I would Nancy Pelosi or Maxine Waters.

You know NOTHING about me and my work and my standing with my employer.....and quite glad you don't.  People like you do like some have on here in contacting an employer and shooting off at the mouth about something you are totally clueless on.  But then again, that's what you do.

I miss Fry too.

 ;)
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: BigRedDog on September 23, 2018, 09:32:17 AM
I opened your comment (in hopes that it was constructive), I see it's not and I should have just left it on ignore....

Get over it. and quit acting like a 2 year old. No one cares except you and in reality, if you were acting your age, you'd have let it go long ago


Again, you like your 'double standards'...   you think you should be able to post anything you want to but then you want to censor what others post!

Freedom of speech...   or the 'first' amendment.  Without freedom of speech there would be no 2nd amendment!!!

(http://balleralert.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/IMG_1442-1024x615.jpg)

Thank all your 'veteran' friends for their action in helping to maintain both...   that is 'if' you even have any friends...  much less 'veteran' friends!!!

Meanwhile, i'll just keep posting away within the terms of service and the terms of the first amendment. 

Unlike some on here, I have a pretty good grasp of what constitutes 'hate' speech and therefore crosses the line!!!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 23, 2018, 09:59:47 AM
If this thread wander much farther off subject, I'll close it btw....

Here is a good read and something I agree with on Kavanaugh.

https://townhall.com/columnists/derekhunter/2018/09/23/hold-the-damn-vote-already-n2521631?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad=&bcid=36ce4bc
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: BigRedDog on September 23, 2018, 10:38:49 AM
If this thread wander much farther off subject, I'll close it btw....

Here is a good read and something I agree with on Kavanaugh.

https://townhall.com/columnists/derekhunter/2018/09/23/hold-the-damn-vote-already-n2521631?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad=&bcid=36ce4bc

And yet one more example of how Flip considers himself superior to other posters on here...

he goes through and pollutes other poster's threads left and right and at times even laughs and posts that too!!!

But...

if anyone takes one of 'his' (I just saw him bragging somewhere that he was the 'original poster' of this thread...   as if everyone couldn't look and see who the original poster was if they really cared) threads 'off topic' then he'll use the 'nuclear option' and shut it down!!!

Actually, I would have thought he would have shut it down when i pointed out his glaring spelling error right in the title 'way back when'...

Tell you what Flip...

here's a 'trick' Frenchfry posted many, many years ago...

Go back to the very first post in the thread and 'correct' your error and the entire thread should 'self correct' from there. 

Should make you feel powerful as only the high and mighty and all so powerful 'original poster' can do that!!!

You can even add a little note in the topic that it's been corrected!!!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: The Fuzz on September 23, 2018, 10:48:40 AM
FFF
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Professor H on September 23, 2018, 11:17:06 AM
Sad to see the delay tactics have actually worked... 

All future delay tactics will pale now in comparison

All committee chairs must now negotiate with all witnesses and meet their demands
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on September 23, 2018, 12:18:01 PM
The democrats have always know how to work over the republicans.  Whether they are in the majority or minority they are always in charge.
From what i have ever seen this group of democrats always get loud, scream and accuse republicans of what the democrats have done wrong and they make it stick.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 23, 2018, 06:00:03 PM
What is really sad is Kavanaugh is probably the best pick anyone could make.  This Ford Lady is very questionable.  I'll be amazed if she does appear.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Monroe Native on September 23, 2018, 06:37:38 PM
What is sad is how many times Democrats have used women in these slander attacks.

But hey!  It is Republicans that hate women.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 23, 2018, 08:14:10 PM
What is sad is how many times Democrats have used women in these slander attacks.

But hey!  It is Republicans that hate women.

I don't do you.  I'm a republican and always have been, well, I prefer to vote for the best person unless both are turds like Schutte and Whitmer.  Not checking either box.  Neither one is worth a pile of dung.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on September 23, 2018, 09:49:42 PM
I don't know what I'm going to do for Mich governor. I don't like anything Whitmer wants to do.  Schutte either and I think I'd rather have him than her. But in reality it may not matter 
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: BigRedDog on September 24, 2018, 08:54:09 AM
I saw on the late news (after the Lions big W) that one of Kavanaugh's Yale schoolmates is now speaking up and saying Kavanaugh attacked her at a party. 

Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on September 24, 2018, 09:22:49 AM
democrats are desperate.  They do not want another conservative on the SCOTUS.  Their liberal program will be over.  Unless this lady has pictures then the republicans should say we've had enough of this crap and confirm Kavanaugh.  Dems are hoping they win the house and be able to block everything Trump wants to do until he is out of office.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: BigRedDog on September 24, 2018, 09:27:32 AM
Big Red:

What's the deal with sparking, and then persisting in a nonsense pissing contest. Come on. Everybody, just let it go. All it does is get you all riled up where insults escalate. Think about it. All this turmoil over a freaking spelling error! Life's to short, and beside there's a ton of really important things to cross swords over.


Where'd you go John?

Car 54 where are you?  C'mon John we all need your shining light as our beacon 8) 8) 8)

Car 54, Where Are You (Intro) S1 (1961) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5MkCAwupe0#)



Not like you to just disappear for three days in a row.

I'm still curious to see if you're going to sign onto "what's right or wrong" being more important than "who's right or wrong"...

my guess is you probably aren't prepared to do that since it would totally fly in the face of your past political stances!!!

C'mon John...   we're all still waiting for your reply...

I know there aren't any numbers to crunch so even a bean counter shouldn't have to take this long :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Monroe Native on September 24, 2018, 12:33:00 PM
It appears that there is no one on the forum that is immune from attacks from nice guy BRD

I'm glad he served for the right to be an.......
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 24, 2018, 03:18:21 PM
I don't know what I'm going to do for Mich governor. I don't like anything Whitmer wants to do.  Schutte either and I think I'd rather have him than her. But in reality it may not matter

In my view, Schutte looks at being Governor as a stepping stone to bigger and better political offices.  Never been impressed with him.  Gretchen Whitmer on the other hand was with Granny during her tenure and we all know how Granny was.  I look at Whitmer as an extension of Granny and her failed policies, not that the 'Nerd' is any better.  He started out with good intentions and then became just another political hack.

The Nerd has basically done nothing except occupy the seat during the last year.

I see Schutte is (or was) trailing Whitmer but I trust polls about as much as I trust Obama.

I find it interesting that like Washington, you cannot get a good honest person to run for public office.  The exception to that is Trump, why the media and the Democrats hate him so much.  He tosses a Monkey Wrench into the plans.

The, you have Kavanaugh.  You could not have a better nominee for a Supreme Court Justice but because Trump picked him, the new parety of no hates him and are attempting a smear job for no reason but contempt for Trump.  Has nothing to do with Kavanaugh, it's guilt by association.

Must be something in the Lansing water that does it.  Not sure.  Maybe in the DC water too.... ;D
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 24, 2018, 03:28:01 PM
It appears that there is no one on the forum that is immune from attacks from nice guy BRD

I'm glad he served for the right to be an.......

Butthole?  Everyone has one.  Some people's buttholes serve more than one purpose.... ;D

Winnowing the herd.  Pretty soon, all that will be left that regularly posts will be the dog and his sidekick fuzz.  They can enjoy the silence together.  They can post to the bots that frequent the forum but never post.  Like that last one Halo Girl.  Everything was hunky dory until someone posted something she found slightly offensive and then she packed up her toys and left instead of rebutting.  She put me in mind of someone who needed a teething ring to suck on.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: BigRedDog on September 24, 2018, 06:52:07 PM
Butthole?  Everyone has one.  Some people's buttholes serve more than one purpose.... ;D

Winnowing the herd.  Pretty soon, all that will be left that regularly posts will be the dog and his sidekick fuzz.  They can enjoy the silence together.  They can post to the bots that frequent the forum but never post.  Like that last one Halo Girl.  Everything was hunky dory until someone posted something she found slightly offensive and then she packed up her toys and left instead of rebutting.  She put me in mind of someone who needed a teething ring to suck on.

Actually I've received comments from more than one past active poster that they would go back to posting if they didn't get hammered by a few of the posters here!!!   Pretty sure they weren't referring to the fuzz or to myself ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: BigRedDog on September 24, 2018, 07:30:59 PM
It appears that there is no one on the forum that is immune from attacks from nice guy BRD

I'm glad he served for the right to be an.......

It's 'a' that goes before PATRIOT rather than 'an'...

but at least you tried!!!

You could have served if you had really wanted to...

well, unless there's 'something' wrong with you. 

I don't ever recall a time when any of the military branches weren't accepting volunteers although there have been times when they got a bit more strict on who they would accept...

that's probably when you 'tried' to enlist ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Monroe Native on September 24, 2018, 07:59:18 PM
Old dog knows everything about everyone.

Oh and on top of that no matter what you did he did it better.

Oh and everyone adores him

LOL I'm just happy to be allowed to be run down by him on a daily basis.

What a nice guy.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 24, 2018, 08:42:18 PM
He don't know shitte from Shinola.  Just a broke down old man with a computer far as I can ascertain.  Probably wears Depends as well, not that I care.  The couple times I met him I thought he was a pretty straight up guy.  My opinion has changed since then and not for the better either.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: BigRedDog on September 25, 2018, 09:11:54 AM
Old dog knows everything about everyone.

Oh and on top of that no matter what you did he did it better.

Oh and everyone adores him

LOL I'm just happy to be allowed to be run down by him on a daily basis.

What a nice guy.

I never claimed to know "everything about everyone"...

apparently your reading comprehension issues are kicking in again...

but I can look at a poster and the list of psychological traits and see a distinct pattern. 

It's really not difficult when someone has been posting for several years!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: BigRedDog on September 25, 2018, 09:19:00 AM
It appears that there is no one on the forum that is immune from attacks from nice guy BRD

I'm glad he served for the right to be an.......

So, what happened to John Kopke? 

Why are you suddenly speaking for him?

More of the 'tag team' distraction? 

No problem...   I can handle all three of you and maybe even a couple more (if you can find anyone else)!!!

Bring it!!!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: BigRedDog on September 25, 2018, 09:36:00 AM
He don't know shitte from Shinola.  Just a broke down old man with a computer far as I can ascertain.  Probably wears Depends as well, not that I care.  The couple times I met him I thought he was a pretty straight up guy.  My opinion has changed since then and not for the better either.

I couldn't have said it better myself! 

Apparently you somehow decided I wasn't wealthy enough for you to hang around with...

instead you took some of your money bags and bought some friends somewhere else ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: BigRedDog on September 25, 2018, 09:38:39 AM
Butthole?  Everyone has one. Some people's buttholes serve more than one purpose.... ;D

Winnowing the herd.  Pretty soon, all that will be left that regularly posts will be the dog and his sidekick fuzz.  They can enjoy the silence together.  They can post to the bots that frequent the forum but never post.  Like that last one Halo Girl.  Everything was hunky dory until someone posted something she found slightly offensive and then she packed up her toys and left instead of rebutting.  She put me in mind of someone who needed a teething ring to suck on.

You seem to say that fairly regularly...

again, must be on your mind a lot. 

I'm pretty sure I know what a psychologist would most likely diagnose you with!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: BigRedDog on September 25, 2018, 09:54:07 AM
So, Flip (who we all bow down before and acknowledge that you're the OP [original poster and therefore the 'owner' of the thread]), when are you going to make good on your promise to shut this thread down?  Or was that just another meaningless threat without any substance?  A lot of posters I'm hearing from are getting tired of your 'attitude'.  I think it's time you showed us all just who the boss is around here!!!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: BigRedDog on September 25, 2018, 09:57:15 AM
Where's the fuzz...

I need him to do his 'countdown' for Flip to 'react'...

I'm predicting something along the line of "I'm done with you and I'm not replying to you anymore"...

I went back and counted and that will put him over the two dozen times of saying the same thing.

Him putting me on 'ignore' and then opening every one of my posts ranks 2nd on his list of jokes. 

Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 25, 2018, 09:58:51 AM
I see that got your goat..  numerous posts that I won't bother to read.  Reminds me of how Fry used to post.  Many comments, most worthless..... ;D
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: BigRedDog on September 25, 2018, 09:59:48 AM
And here's 'flip'...

right on schedule...

so, so predictable!!!

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Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: BigRedDog on September 25, 2018, 10:30:24 AM
Where's the fuzz...

I need him to do his 'countdown' for Flip to 'react'...

I'm predicting something along the line of "I'm done with you and I'm not replying to you anymore"...

I went back and counted and that will put him over the two dozen times of saying the same thing.

Him putting me on 'ignore' and then opening every one of my posts ranks 2nd on his list of jokes. 



And here's 'flip'...

right on schedule...

so, so predictable!!!


I see that got your goat..  numerous posts that I won't bother to read.  Reminds me of how Fry used to post.  Many comments, most worthless..... ;D

I really didn't realize I was getting so good at playing "Flip's Fiddle"...

predictable people are so easy :D :D :D

(https://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/anyone-that-can-read-you-like-a-book-can-also-play-you-like-a-fiddle-84f56.png)
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: BigRedDog on September 25, 2018, 10:32:36 AM
I see Flip disappeared again...

probably getting in touch with MN or JK looking for some 'support'...

"help me, help me...   the BRD is outsmarting me again" ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: The Fuzz on September 25, 2018, 11:28:32 AM
Where's the fuzz...

I need him to do his 'countdown' for Flip to 'react'...

I'm predicting something along the line of "I'm done with you and I'm not replying to you anymore"...

I went back and counted and that will put him over the two dozen times of saying the same thing.

Him putting me on 'ignore' and then opening every one of my posts ranks 2nd on his list of jokes.

Sorry, I retreated to the desert for some Native American rituals doing peyote buttons and praying for FFF to get better.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: halo_girl on September 25, 2018, 11:30:48 AM
Like that last one Halo Girl.  Everything was hunky dory until someone posted something she found slightly offensive and then she packed up her toys and left instead of rebutting.  She put me in mind of someone who needed a teething ring to suck on.

Sorry sweetheart but halo_girl is JUST FINE.  As for leaving because of something "slightly offensive" - yeah that is all on YOUR comments to me regarding oil changes and such.  As for rebutting - rebut with YOU??? yeah no thank you, so tired of the ONE WAY conversations and disrespect.  As for the teething ring to suck on - I think you are the one that needs to learn some manners and self control but yeah that won't happen either.  It seems no matter what forum I see you on, all conversations wind up leading to disrespect, put downs, name calling, etc.  Why anybody wants to play with that is beyond me.  But since admin has so nicely ignored my requests to full out delete my account - well guess I am still here to play so have at it with your snarky a** comments - just remember what comes around, goes around.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 25, 2018, 06:56:33 PM
Sorry sweetheart but halo_girl is JUST FINE.  As for leaving because of something "slightly offensive" - yeah that is all on YOUR comments to me regarding oil changes and such.  As for rebutting - rebut with YOU??? yeah no thank you, so tired of the ONE WAY conversations and disrespect.  As for the teething ring to suck on - I think you are the one that needs to learn some manners and self control but yeah that won't happen either.  It seems no matter what forum I see you on, all conversations wind up leading to disrespect, put downs, name calling, etc.  Why anybody wants to play with that is beyond me.  But since admin has so nicely ignored my requests to full out delete my account - well guess I am still here to play so have at it with your snarky a** comments - just remember what comes around, goes around.

Whatever.  If you don't like the heat, get out of the kitchen.  You said you were done. all I commented on.  Don't know you from a doorknob and frankly, don't want to.  I've never been impressed with mealy mouthed people anyway.

So, are you gone or hanging around posting mealy mouthed comments?  Inquiring minds want to know.

I don't call anyone names they don't deserve and I respect everyone so long as the respect me in kind but, make no mistake, I can get down to any level, including yours, if need be.

So far you have shown me your arse and not much else.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: BigRedDog on September 26, 2018, 05:12:49 AM
Whatever.  If you don't like the heat, get out of the kitchen.  You said you were done. all I commented on.  Don't know you from a doorknob and frankly, don't want to.  I've never been impressed with mealy mouthed people anyway.

So, are you gone or hanging around posting mealy mouthed comments?  Inquiring minds want to know.

I don't call anyone names they don't deserve and I respect everyone so long as the respect me in kind but, make no mistake, I can get down to any level, including yours, if need be.

So far you have shown me your arse and not much else.

Wow...

just WOW!!!

You are the man Flip...

you sure showed her how a 'real man' acts!

Finally found someone you think you can beat up on so you're going for the 'kill'. 

Yet another trait that shows just how much you need help!

I'm sure JK and MN are proud of you and look up to you and can't wait until they can attack someone the same way!

Another example of the 'pendulum' effect...   

MT started off pretty good and then morphed to what you see here...   

how much lower will it go...

or can it bounce back.  I hope so but if not then it's been a nice ride. 

Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: halo_girl on September 26, 2018, 07:17:40 AM
Whatever.  If you don't like the heat, get out of the kitchen.  You said you were done. all I commented on.  Don't know you from a doorknob and frankly, don't want to.  I've never been impressed with mealy mouthed people anyway.

So, are you gone or hanging around posting mealy mouthed comments?  Inquiring minds want to know.

I don't call anyone names they don't deserve and I respect everyone so long as the respect me in kind but, make no mistake, I can get down to any level, including yours, if need be.

So far you have shown me your arse and not much else.

Ahhhh good morning to you too Sunshine.  So you think I am "mealy mouthed" hmmmmm, good to know and just so we understand - from here on out, trust me sunshine, I am NOT afraid to speak my mind with the likes of you.  You are a condescending ("having or showing a feeling of patronizing superiority" in case you didn't know the meaning), arrogant a** who I will NOT back down from.  Yes I did say I was done, yes I have put in a request for admin to delete my account - well that was over a week ago and apparently admin is not concerned so I will keep on posting now until either they catch up with my request or maybe I will just get myself banned - if that is the option, well then I will certainly have FUN getting banned. As for getting "down to any level" well I don't think you can reach high enough to get to my level because you are just a little man.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: halo_girl on September 26, 2018, 07:21:40 AM
Wow...

just WOW!!!

You are the man Flip...

you sure showed her how a 'real man' acts!

Finally found someone you think you can beat up on so you're going for the 'kill'. 

Yet another trait that shows just how much you need help!

I'm sure JK and MN are proud of you and look up to you and can't wait until they can attack someone the same way!

Another example of the 'pendulum' effect...   

MT started off pretty good and then morphed to what you see here...   

how much lower will it go...

or can it bounce back.  I hope so but if not then it's been a nice ride.

Good Morning BRD and thank you for the comments.  As for Flip showing me how a "real man" acts LOL trust me, I knew from day one he was not a real man anyways so yeah he is just showing how he likes to play down and dirty with insults and disrespect and hey to each his own.  He thinks he can beat me up and chase me away from the play ground - essentially nothing but a playground bully is all he wants to be.  I have seen him on other forums and yeah he doesn't play real nice with anybody who does not agree with something he says.  I will tell you though, he is NOT chasing me off this time, either admin delets my account finally or I get myself banned - either way the forum is nothing like it used to be when I joined several years ago.  I came here to learn things and be part of something but to be part of Flip's world - yeahhh, no thank you.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 26, 2018, 08:48:07 AM
Whatever...

I see 'we' are drifting away from the pertinent subject matter again. Guess there is nothing new there.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: halo_girl on September 26, 2018, 09:31:21 AM
Whatever...

I see 'we' are drifting away from the pertinent subject matter again. Guess there is nothing new there.

that would be because with you there apparently is no pertinent subject matter - again it goes back to it being all about Flip and that's fine....its your world, be happy
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Monroe Native on September 26, 2018, 10:51:42 AM
And with that shot across the bow we have another participant in the back and forth name calling and insults.

I keep waiting for someone to take the high road.

I guess Kopke and Blue2 have.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: halo_girl on September 26, 2018, 11:00:15 AM
And with that shot across the bow we have another participant in the back and forth name calling and insults.

I keep waiting for someone to take the high road.

I guess Kopke and Blue2 have.

sorry, but no participant here - he wanted straight forward so I gave it to him, end of discussion on ALL GROUNDS. I, like BRD, am DONE with this joke of a forum that it has turned into.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Monroe Native on September 26, 2018, 01:51:48 PM
sorry, but no participant here - he wanted straight forward so I gave it to him, end of discussion on ALL GROUNDS. I, like BRD, am DONE with this joke of a forum that it has turned into.

That is a good description.

Well said.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 26, 2018, 04:42:32 PM
She said that before and came back, like a moth to the flame....  We will see.  Least I think it is a she.  Could be a He-She for all I know.... ;D
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 26, 2018, 04:48:49 PM
I see another 'accuser' has come forward.  Bet the Democratic party is paying out a lot in 'finders' fees'... lol, to dredge up these questionable sluts from the past.  Frankly, I don't believe any of them.  Just a smear job. plain and simple because it's Trump and the Dems (and some the the Repukes don't like Trump.

Instead of being upstanding and Democratic in process, the Beltway Bozo's have become the dregs of society and the government is sinking into the 'swamp'.

What a joke.  Bigger joke than this forum....lol
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Monroe Native on September 26, 2018, 05:59:32 PM
Its hard to believe because the Democrats keep pulling out this stacked deck of cards.

Jack Ryan
Judge Moore
Herman Cain
Trump

Same playbook every time.

None of the women accusing in any case said a peep before 20-40 years had passed, and then they all felt they "had" to clear the record.

Some had been paid for their services to the Democratic Party.  Others were active within their party.

It is hard to believe anytime this happens that it is anything but a political smear job.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on September 26, 2018, 06:07:33 PM
Side, I believe the dems are so desperate to keep another conservative off the SCOTUS they will do anything,  And they are proving that.  If Kavanaugh is approved the dems can forget about any rewrites of the Constitution or rulings in favor of any of their programs.  And to make it worse the rest of the SC will realize the old lady has been dead for a couple of years and Trump will appoint another conservative..The dems might as well crawl in a hole, especially if the republicans appoint a guy like Jordon of Ohio as their leader.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 26, 2018, 06:29:53 PM
I like Jordan, he's everything the current speaker isn't.

I believe as you say, the end game is rewritting the Constitution and making this a Socialist Republic, devoid of 2A and the right to bear arms, freedom to asemble and lots of other freedoms as well.  Look at the Chairman of the Democrat Party, Perez.  He's a Communist / Socialist sympathizer.

People in the country need to get their heads out of their stink holes or we are going down the tubes and no one really wants that. 
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: John Kopke on September 26, 2018, 09:18:02 PM
Where'd you go John?

Car 54 where are you?  C'mon John we all need your shining light as our beacon 8) 8) 8)

Car 54, Where Are You (Intro) S1 (1961) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5MkCAwupe0#[/url])



Not like you to just disappear for three days in a row.

I'm still curious to see if you're going to sign onto "what's right or wrong" being more important than "who's right or wrong"...

my guess is you probably aren't prepared to do that since it would totally fly in the face of your past political stances!!!

C'mon John...   we're all still waiting for your reply...

I know there aren't any numbers to crunch so even a bean counter shouldn't have to take this long :-\ :-\ :-\


Big Red:

Frankly, I couldn't get a hold of what you were saying to me in this post.
 
You're right I haven't been in this topic in day or so. Frankly, the stench of
the whole thing makes me sick. Tired of the back and forth. Tired of the media frenzy. Just tired.

But here's the thing. When was the last time the Pukes slimed the character of a Dem nominee to the court? Lord knows they resented their judicial philosophy, but they didn't make any effort to destroy their character. And they were confirmed without major drama. Then there's the Dems with their take no prisoners policy. Bork, Thomas and now Kavanaugh. There is no shame. No low they won't stoop to. Win, whatever it takes, the ends justify the means. Do you have a counter argument to that?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 27, 2018, 11:59:14 AM
Hearing started at 10AM (Dog and Pony Show).  I'm not tuned in and won't be.  All I know is, if the pukes waffle, it's the end of the Republic as we know it.

The 'downhill' slide will get much more acute after the waffle.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on September 27, 2018, 04:15:11 PM
im not interested in watching any of it..The pukes likely to waffle as I think the ones in leadership hate Trump.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: NewDawn on September 27, 2018, 04:44:03 PM
Oh wow!! I do believe he is half drunk. He is an unstable man, not fit for SCOTUS.  NEXT!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: old salt on September 27, 2018, 05:00:49 PM
Just when you think the Dems can't go any lower, they do.  Disgraceful.  Every Democrat should be ashamed at this travesty.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 27, 2018, 06:05:20 PM
Oh wow!! I do believe he is half drunk. He is an unstable man, not fit for SCOTUS.  NEXT!

What do you base that assumption on may I ask?  The fact that he broke down and sobbed when he related that his daughter prayed for Ms. Ford last night?  I don't see that as an admission of inferiority or cowardness, just an emotional dad.

He is under intense pressure and the Dems are trying to destroy him, his name and reputation and he's fighting back.  The man has BALLS from what I see.

In as much as I'm a non-drinking alcoholic, I'm a pretty damn good judge of whether someone is one or not.  I know the symptoms and I know that Brett Kavanaugh isn't one.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 27, 2018, 06:07:32 PM
Just when you think the Dems can't go any lower, they do.  Disgraceful.  Every Democrat should be ashamed at this travesty.

Especially Feinstein and her cohort Schumer.  They have succeeded in making the vetting process a dog and pony show, destroying a man's good name and not winning any points with me anyway.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Monroe Native on September 27, 2018, 06:53:54 PM
I don't particularly like Lindsey Graham, but I have to say he nailed the Democrats on what they are doing, and he called it as a new low in his political career.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on September 27, 2018, 07:29:45 PM
I did not see what Graham said or did but its way past time calling these dems out for what they are. There is no sense being nice to them.  They will never get along.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on September 27, 2018, 07:34:22 PM
I was surprised by what I found on TV13 facebook page.  Toledo pretty much full of democrats..  Hundreds of people commenting as to what a shame it was the way the democrats were acting and how they didn't believe the woman.  And most of the comments were from women.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: The Fuzz on September 27, 2018, 07:39:27 PM
I don't particularly like Lindsey Graham, but I have to say he nailed the Democrats on what they are doing, and he called it as a new low in his political career.

It's funny, even as independent thinker, this has been the most embarrassing thing I've seen that surpasses the Long Dong Silver episode.  Our government is embarrassing. 
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Monroe Native on September 27, 2018, 07:47:25 PM
It's funny, even as independent thinker, this has been the most embarrassing thing I've seen that surpasses the Long Dong Silver episode.  Our government is embarrassing.

Thanks for the laugh!

I had somehow forgotten the term "Long Dong Silver."

 ;D
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 27, 2018, 08:42:29 PM
It's funny, even as independent thinker, this has been the most embarrassing thing I've seen that surpasses the Long Dong Silver episode.  Our government is embarrassing.

Hard to believe we refer to these clowns as the 'ruling class'.  Between all of them there might be a couple pounds of brains but tons of mouth.

Graham really lit them up with both barrels.  I give him credit for that.  My opinion of him has increased positively, quite a bit.

One has to wonder how the world views us.  Remember the world watches this stuff too, not just us.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on September 27, 2018, 09:28:14 PM
Graham was pretty impressive. About time a republican called those assclowns out in public
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: John Kopke on September 27, 2018, 09:31:57 PM
Oh wow!! I do believe he is half drunk. He is an unstable man, not fit for SCOTUS.  NEXT!

NewDawn:

First time I've addressed you, I think. What's the deal? Were you making an "argument" with this post? If so, you didn't distinguish yourself. If you're going to slam Kavanaugh at least make an attempt to back up your words with something. My take is you just hate this guy because he doesn't agree with your legal worldview and therefore any negative epithet you may spew forth is fully justified.   
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: NewDawn on September 28, 2018, 08:08:31 AM
 An Angry, entitled, unhinged white man.

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Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 28, 2018, 08:37:35 AM
An Angry, entitled, unhinged white man.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/brett-kavanaugh-apos-credibility-not-233607163.htmlhttps://www.yahoo.com/news/brett-kavanaugh-apos-credibility-not-233607163.htmlhttps://www.yahoo.com/news/brett-kavanaugh-apos-credibility-not-233607163.htmlhttps://www.yahoo.com/news/brett-kavanaugh-apos-credibility-not-233607163.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/brett-kavanaugh-apos-credibility-not-233607163.htmlhttps://www.yahoo.com/news/brett-kavanaugh-apos-credibility-not-233607163.htmlhttps://www.yahoo.com/news/brett-kavanaugh-apos-credibility-not-233607163.htmlhttps://www.yahoo.com/news/brett-kavanaugh-apos-credibility-not-233607163.html)

I don't see anything in your link that brings to light anything that hasn't been hashed and rehashed numerous times, but then I could be missing something.

I think you'll see that Brett Kavanaugh gets confirmed today, especially after the shellacking that Lindsey Graham gave the Democrats and his fellow Republicans.  I was so impressed with that oration that I've replayed it a couple times now just to absorb how profound it is.

He called the Dems on exactly what their game plan was, stall and sandbag until after the mid terms and destroy a man's credibility in the process.

As an individual, I don't buy into the media's 'spin' on things as a rule.  I go by instinct and what I see in real time and what I see in Brett Kavanaugh is a fine example of a Supreme Court Justice.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on September 28, 2018, 09:05:12 AM
There is not much doubt that the dems will broaden their impeach impeach impeach to include Kavanaugh along with Trump.  They have everything to gain and a lot to loose if the two "angry white men" stay in their positions..  I'd like to see Rowe v Wade overturned just to watch the liberals heads explode..
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 28, 2018, 12:06:47 PM
Don't believe you can impeach a Supreme Court Justice on any grounds but malfeasance in office.  I don't see that happening with Kavanaugh.  He's very astute and obviously a fighter.  I think Roe vs Wade will be overturned.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: old salt on September 28, 2018, 12:11:59 PM
I've also read where the Dems are concerned their gun control activities could also lose ground.  Some laws were passed and upheld by the SC.  Can't wait for RGB to croak.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoKduWtU4AAhjHe.jpg)
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 28, 2018, 12:21:21 PM
Haven't checked but he should be confirmed by now.  I read somewhere that the vote was to be in the AM today.

CL and I were discussing it this morning and how it relates to Trump and she said to me that Trump will get reelected, no issue and she's a lifelong Democrat.  That would really frost the likes of Schumer, Pelosi and Feinstein....lol
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: NewDawn on September 28, 2018, 12:51:26 PM
Unfit for SCOTUS! Anyone with any common sense, watching the the full hearing, could tell he was a blatant liar. His Yale classmates are now stating to speak up.

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Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: NewDawn on September 28, 2018, 01:04:46 PM
Don't believe you can impeach a Supreme Court Justice on any grounds but malfeasance in office.  I don't see that happening with Kavanaugh.  He's very astute and obviously a fighter.  I think Roe vs Wade will be overturned.

Okay, Blue2, if Roe vs Wade does get overturned, us asshats, are going to HELP you get pregnant and see what you will decide to do about not being pregnant. Choices, huh? (And yes, I know you are a man, but we will help you get pregnant, anyway. But we will deny it, of course
Graham was pretty impressive. About time a republican called those assclowns out in public
There is not much doubt that the dems will broaden their impeach impeach impeach to include Kavanaugh along with Trump.  They have everything to gain and a lot to loose if the two "angry white men" stay in their positions..  I'd like to see Rowe v Wade overturned just to watch the liberals heads explode..
)
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: old salt on September 28, 2018, 02:31:39 PM
(https://antzinpantz.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/charmin.jpg?w=640)
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Monroe Native on September 28, 2018, 02:50:57 PM
Haven't checked but he should be confirmed by now.  I read somewhere that the vote was to be in the AM today.

CL and I were discussing it this morning and how it relates to Trump and she said to me that Trump will get reelected, no issue and she's a lifelong Democrat.  That would really frost the likes of Schumer, Pelosi and Feinstein....lol

Just out of committee to the floor.

Flake talked about  a year need week delay so the FBI can do who knows what.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on September 28, 2018, 04:15:25 PM
I do believe females had abortions long before Rowe v Wade.   
It should be a medical decision between  men women and the professionals, perhaps not the government.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on September 28, 2018, 04:17:01 PM
Flake hates Trump so of course he's going to join the democrats.

I think the November election will be very telling.  Sure there are areas of the country stacked with liberals that are going to vote for the liberal candidates.  But overall the independents are looking at what kind of obstructionists the dems are and probably vote more conservatively..
If the republicans retain control the dems can obstruct all they want and it will do no good.  If the dems win one of the houses it will be really chaotic.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 28, 2018, 06:15:39 PM
After this last debacle (yesterday) I don't see them winning much of anything.  Seems to me they are running on air.  Everyone either watched or got clip[s later on of the childish way they handled the inquiry.

Didn't take a lot of brains to see through the thin smokescreen of hate and loathing.

They acted like high school kids, not grown ups.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 28, 2018, 06:16:43 PM
One has to really wonder what they will do when Trump gets another 4 years.  Heads will explode....lol
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 28, 2018, 06:17:15 PM
I do believe females had abortions long before Rowe v Wade.   
It should be a medical decision between  men women and the professionals, perhaps not the government.

I do believe you are correct on all counts.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 28, 2018, 06:20:24 PM
Okay, Blue2, if Roe vs Wade does get overturned, us asshats, are going to HELP you get pregnant and see what you will decide to do about not being pregnant. Choices, huh? (And yes, I know you are a man, but we will help you get pregnant, anyway. But we will deny it, of course)

I'd like to see that in as much as Blue is a male.... ;D  That would be quite a stunt.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: The Fuzz on September 28, 2018, 07:08:31 PM
Flake hates Trump so of course he's going to join the democrats.

I think the November election will be very telling.  Sure there are areas of the country stacked with liberals that are going to vote for the liberal candidates.  But overall the independents are looking at what kind of obstructionists the dems are and probably vote more conservatively..
If the republicans retain control the dems can obstruct all they want and it will do no good.  If the dems win one of the houses it will be really chaotic.

I hope this brings voters out on both sides, all time high for midterm elections......it would be nice to see a mandate come out one way or the other.  I can't think of any more of a motivation to get folks off their duffs and to the polls to say they think what the Left pulled off this week was acceptable and we move on to a Social state, or move back towards a Representative Democracy.

As is, this week showed how badly our government is broken.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on September 28, 2018, 07:12:24 PM
Fuzz and we are the big losers.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: The Fuzz on September 28, 2018, 07:25:12 PM
No question.....what a shame.  I think what I would like to see, and I know it is an impossibility, is 100% participation to gage just how divided this country is.  I'm curious as hell to see if the entire population thinks what has happened this week is acceptable behavior of politicians.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: John Kopke on September 28, 2018, 07:31:45 PM
An Angry, entitled, unhinged white man.

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Newdawn:

So this is the argument that you left out previously? So is everybody supposed to read all these links, and then sift out your argument?
Pretty weak.   
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on September 28, 2018, 07:44:20 PM
a number of comments I see on twitter and facebook seem to like the dems yet.  They think they are doing the right thing and hope they don't cave in.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: The Fuzz on September 28, 2018, 07:57:55 PM
I'm not all that disappointed with what happened in a set day that it would go to the Senate floor next Friday, provided it does in fact go like that.

Nothing to lose unless more women/men come forward with "new" information.  Investigate the issue at hand with the one credible accuser and put it to rest. Then the crow eating can proceed by the side whose position was proved wrong.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 29, 2018, 09:37:34 AM
I don't find her very credible from what I've observed.  She appears to be not at all sure of herself.  She cannot even remember where the house was it supposedly happened at and she left her best pal / girlfriend there after she was supposedly felt up.  Lot of inconsistencies coming out of a supposed well educated and well versed woman (2 Masters and a Doctorate).  I find her testimony to be less than believeable.

Guess we will see how it plays out at this point.  Flake is the big pivotal person.  He's a lame duck (not running again) so no dog in the game and dislikes Trump so he could be the deal breaker and walk away with no guilt whatsoever.

With a name like Flake, anything is possible..... ;D
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 29, 2018, 09:39:35 AM
Think I'd stay away from Facebook, especially after reading that millions got their personal data hacked on Facebook this week.  Don't sound like a very secure platform to me.  Heard it was the Chinese.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on September 29, 2018, 10:50:24 AM
There is always someone smarter.
There is not much doubt the Chinese are trying to create chaos in the US.. They have been for years.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: NewDawn on September 29, 2018, 11:33:04 AM
Let's all push aside if we are a Democrat, Republican or an Independent. Please read as if you are not affiliated with any group whatsoever. This man was a longtime associate of Kavanaugh. If Trump is as smart as some of you say, he will nominate a more worthy SCOTUS.   


David Brock on NBC: “I used to know Brett Kavanaugh pretty well. And, when I think of Brett now, in the midst of his hearings for a lifetime appointment to the U.S. Supreme Court, all I can think of is the old "Aesop's Fables" adage: "A man is known by the company he keeps." And that's why I want to tell any senator who cares about our democracy: Vote no. Twenty years ago, when I was a conservative movement stalwart, I got to know Brett Kavanaugh both professionally and personally. Brett actually makes a cameo appearance in my memoir of my time in the GOP, "Blinded By The Right." I describe him at a party full of zealous young conservatives gathered to watch President Bill Clinton's 1998 State of the Union address — just weeks after the story of his affair with a White House intern had broken. When the TV camera panned to Hillary Clinton, I saw Brett — at the time a key lieutenant of Ken Starr, the independent counsel investigating various Clinton scandals — mouth the word "*****."
But there's a lot more to know about Kavanaugh than just his Pavlovian response to Hillary's image. Brett and I were part of a close circle of cold, cynical and ambitious hard-right operatives being groomed by GOP elders for much bigger roles in politics, government and media. And it’s those controversial associations that should give members of the Senate and the American public serious pause.
Call it Kavanaugh's cabal: There was his colleague on the Starr investigation, Alex Azar, now the Secretary of Health and Human Services. Mark Paoletta is now chief counsel to Vice President Mike Pence; House anti-Clinton gumshoe Barbara Comstock is now a Republican member of Congress. Future Fox News personalities Laura Ingraham and Tucker Carlson were there with Ann Coulter, now a best-selling author, and internet provocateur Matt Drudge.
At one time or another, each of them partied at my Georgetown townhouse amid much booze and a thick air of cigar smoke. In a rough division of labor, Kavanaugh played the role of lawyer — one of the sharp young minds recruited by the Federalist Society to infiltrate the federal judiciary with true believers. Through that network, Kavanaugh was mentored by D.C. Appeals Court Judge Laurence Silberman, known among his colleagues for planting leaks in the press for partisan advantage.
When, as I came to know, Kavanaugh took on the role of designated leaker to the press of sensitive information from Starr's operation, we all laughed that Larry had taught him well. (Of course, that sort of political opportunism by a prosecutor is at best unethical, if not illegal.)
Another compatriot was George Conway (now Kellyanne's husband), who led a secretive group of right-wing lawyers — we called them "the elves" — who worked behind the scenes directing the litigation team of Paula Jones, who had sued Clinton for sexual harassment. I knew then that information was flowing quietly from the Jones team via Conway to Starr's office — and also that Conway's go-to man was none other than Brett Kavanaugh.
That critical flow of inside information allowed Starr, in effect, to set a perjury trap for Clinton, laying the foundation for a crazed national political crisis and an unjust impeachment over a consensual affair.
But the cabal's godfather was Ted Olson, the then-future solicitor general for George W. Bush and now a sainted figure of the GOP establishment (and of some liberals for his role in legalizing same-sex marriage). Olson had a largely hidden role as a consigliere to the "Arkansas Project" — a multi-million dollar dirt-digging operation on the Clintons, funded by the eccentric right-wing billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife and run through The American Spectator magazine, where I worked at the time.
Both Ted and Brett had what one could only be called an unhealthy obsession with the Clintons — especially Hillary. While Ted was pushing through the Arkansas Project conspiracy theories claiming that Clinton White House lawyer and Hillary friend Vincent Foster was murdered (he committed suicide), Brett was costing taxpayers millions by peddling the same garbage at Starr's office.
A detailed analysis of Kavanaugh's own notes from the Starr Investigation reveals he was cherry-picking random bits of information from the Starr investigation — as well as the multiple previous investigations — attempting vainly to legitimize wild right-wing conspiracies. For years he chased down each one of them without regard to the emotional cost to Foster’s family and friends, or even common decency.
Kavanaugh was not a dispassionate finder of fact but rather an engineer of a political smear campaign. And after decades of that, he expects people to believe he's changed his stripes.
Like millions of Americans this week, I tuned into Kavanaugh's hearings before the Senate Judiciary Committee with great interest. In his opening statement and subsequent testimony, Kavanaugh presented himself as a "neutral and impartial arbiter" of the law. Judges, he said, were not players but akin to umpires — objectively calling balls and strikes. Again and again, he stressed his "independence" from partisan political influences.
But I don't need to see any documents to tell you who Kavanaugh is — because I've known him for years. And I'll leave it to all the lawyers to parse Kavanaugh's views on everything from privacy rights to gun rights.
But I can promise you that any pretense of simply being a fair arbiter of the constitutionality of any policy regardless of politics is simply a pretense. He made up his mind nearly a generation ago — and, if he's confirmed, he'll have nearly two generations to impose it upon the rest of us."David Brock on NBC: “I used to know Brett Kavanaugh pretty well. And, when I think of Brett now, in the midst of his hearings for a lifetime appointment to the U.S. Supreme Court, all I can think of is the old "Aesop's Fables" adage: "A man is known by the company he keeps." And that's why I want to tell any senator who cares about our democracy: Vote no. Twenty years ago, when I was a conservative movement stalwart, I got to know Brett Kavanaugh both professionally and personally. Brett actually makes a cameo appearance in my memoir of my time in the GOP, "Blinded By The Right." I describe him at a party full of zealous young conservatives gathered to watch President Bill Clinton's 1998 State of the Union address — just weeks after the story of his affair with a White House intern had broken. When the TV camera panned to Hillary Clinton, I saw Brett — at the time a key lieutenant of Ken Starr, the independent counsel investigating various Clinton scandals — mouth the word "*****."
But there's a lot more to know about Kavanaugh than just his Pavlovian response to Hillary's image. Brett and I were part of a close circle of cold, cynical and ambitious hard-right operatives being groomed by GOP elders for much bigger roles in politics, government and media. And it’s those controversial associations that should give members of the Senate and the American public serious pause.
Call it Kavanaugh's cabal: There was his colleague on the Starr investigation, Alex Azar, now the Secretary of Health and Human Services. Mark Paoletta is now chief counsel to Vice President Mike Pence; House anti-Clinton gumshoe Barbara Comstock is now a Republican member of Congress. Future Fox News personalities Laura Ingraham and Tucker Carlson were there with Ann Coulter, now a best-selling author, and internet provocateur Matt Drudge.
At one time or another, each of them partied at my Georgetown townhouse amid much booze and a thick air of cigar smoke. In a rough division of labor, Kavanaugh played the role of lawyer — one of the sharp young minds recruited by the Federalist Society to infiltrate the federal judiciary with true believers. Through that network, Kavanaugh was mentored by D.C. Appeals Court Judge Laurence Silberman, known among his colleagues for planting leaks in the press for partisan advantage.
When, as I came to know, Kavanaugh took on the role of designated leaker to the press of sensitive information from Starr's operation, we all laughed that Larry had taught him well. (Of course, that sort of political opportunism by a prosecutor is at best unethical, if not illegal.)
Another compatriot was George Conway (now Kellyanne's husband), who led a secretive group of right-wing lawyers — we called them "the elves" — who worked behind the scenes directing the litigation team of Paula Jones, who had sued Clinton for sexual harassment. I knew then that information was flowing quietly from the Jones team via Conway to Starr's office — and also that Conway's go-to man was none other than Brett Kavanaugh.
That critical flow of inside information allowed Starr, in effect, to set a perjury trap for Clinton, laying the foundation for a crazed national political crisis and an unjust impeachment over a consensual affair.
But the cabal's godfather was Ted Olson, the then-future solicitor general for George W. Bush and now a sainted figure of the GOP establishment (and of some liberals for his role in legalizing same-sex marriage). Olson had a largely hidden role as a consigliere to the "Arkansas Project" — a multi-million dollar dirt-digging operation on the Clintons, funded by the eccentric right-wing billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife and run through The American Spectator magazine, where I worked at the time.
Both Ted and Brett had what one could only be called an unhealthy obsession with the Clintons — especially Hillary. While Ted was pushing through the Arkansas Project conspiracy theories claiming that Clinton White House lawyer and Hillary friend Vincent Foster was murdered (he committed suicide), Brett was costing taxpayers millions by peddling the same garbage at Starr's office.
A detailed analysis of Kavanaugh's own notes from the Starr Investigation reveals he was cherry-picking random bits of information from the Starr investigation — as well as the multiple previous investigations — attempting vainly to legitimize wild right-wing conspiracies. For years he chased down each one of them without regard to the emotional cost to Foster’s family and friends, or even common decency.
Kavanaugh was not a dispassionate finder of fact but rather an engineer of a political smear campaign. And after decades of that, he expects people to believe he's changed his stripes.
Like millions of Americans this week, I tuned into Kavanaugh's hearings before the Senate Judiciary Committee with great interest. In his opening statement and subsequent testimony, Kavanaugh presented himself as a "neutral and impartial arbiter" of the law. Judges, he said, were not players but akin to umpires — objectively calling balls and strikes. Again and again, he stressed his "independence" from partisan political influences.
But I don't need to see any documents to tell you who Kavanaugh is — because I've known him for years. And I'll leave it to all the lawyers to parse Kavanaugh's views on everything from privacy rights to gun rights.
But I can promise you that any pretense of simply being a fair arbiter of the constitutionality of any policy regardless of politics is simply a pretense. He made up his mind nearly a generation ago — and, if he's confirmed, he'll have nearly two generations to impose it upon the rest of us."             
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: The Fuzz on September 29, 2018, 11:46:15 AM
In today's media and political circus of fake news promotion, I generally research the credibility of a quoted source.

You may want to read this Dawn:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brock (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brock)

Even by his own writings I'm not sure I would classify him as a long time associate of Kavanaugh, but I will say he is a good writer.   ;)

Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Maverick on September 29, 2018, 12:14:39 PM
New Dawn
After reading your double posted story I am more impressed than ever if even half is true.
Let he who has no sin cast the first stone comes to mind.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on September 29, 2018, 12:19:32 PM
I couldn't read word for word.  I don't have the stamina anymore.  But what I got out of it was Kavanaugh HATES HILLARY.  And so is that bad?   Everyone has opinions and biases.  The question. is can we work above them.  He apparently has.  There have been hundreds of people say he's the right guy..
And for all we know David Brock has an ax to grind
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 29, 2018, 12:28:45 PM
I see no mention anywhere of his 'supposed' mean drunk persona.  But then again, having been there and dealt with it, I don't see him as a drunk at all.  Social drinker maybe.

I read (with difficulty because the post content was clumped together) your quoted passage from David Brock and then read Fuzz's post as well.  I'd say Brock is tainted.  He's a graduate of UCLA, Berkley which, far as I'm concerned brands him a left wing liberal kook.  Editor of the Californian as well.  That says volumes about his political leanings.

Even if Kavanaugh was those things, there are 8 other Justices on the Court so one opinion don't make ir break any decision, it's always a group thing.  One of the group, not the group of one.  He's been a sitting judge on a high court for a while now, he's not a 'new kid on the block' by a long shot.

I still ave no issue with him but then it's not up to us, it's up to the officials we elected to represent us to make the decision.  This isn't local politics, it's the National stage.

I'm sure that the FBI, under Trump's directive will look at everything pertaining to his past, in detail, before submitting a decision and at least in my view, those who represent us should abide by that decision, whatever it is.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Maverick on September 29, 2018, 03:15:04 PM
I don't think the FBI is coming to any conclusion. They will merely file a supplemented report of any new findings from their additional interviews. I think the danger in the delay is that now even more kooks and crackpots will say they have just come across more repressed memories of Kavanaughs behavior. That's the shitty part of all of this. The mere accusation is killing this process because all of a sudden you are presumed guilty because someone makes an accusation.
I like the one that had attended 10 gang rape parties and was gang raped herself but saw Kavanaugh there. Can you say " Gang rape groupie "?  What a credible source !!!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 29, 2018, 04:07:27 PM
I don't think the FBI is coming to any conclusion. They will merely file a supplemented report of any new findings from their additional interviews. I think the danger in the delay is that now even more kooks and crackpots will say they have just come across more repressed memories of Kavanaughs behavior. That's the shitty part of all of this. The mere accusation is killing this process because all of a sudden you are presumed guilty because someone makes an accusation.
I like the one that had attended 10 gang rape parties and was gang raped herself but saw Kavanaugh there. Can you say " Gang rape groupie "?  What a credible source !!!

Don't know Mav, it's whatever DJT directs them to do.  I found Blasey Ford less than credible.  She has a story but no substantiating evidence to back it up.  She also has an interesting family and past as well.  Most certainly a liberal snowflake and a Never Trumper.  What struck me as odd with her testimony was her voice.  She sounded like s little kid when she talked.  I'd think being a professor, she would have had a commanding presence.  She didn't.  One has to wonder if she lectures her students like she she came across during the hearing....  and the flying thing.  "I'm afraid to fly' but on the other hand I fly from Kalifornia to my parent's place in Delaware all the time.  We fly on vacation, but I'm afraid to fly..  Gimme a break.  If you are going to tell a bald face lie, at least make in somewhat palatable.

So no, I found her testimony much less than truthful, but then I'm not going to appoint Kavanaugh.  All I am is a citizen, listening and forming my own opinion.

In the 'MeTo' society we live in now, every story told by a female is deemed credible whether in fact it is or isn't.  What a travesty.  Trump can blow them off, Kavanaugh cannot sadly.

I like the one about Trump urinating on a w**** in Russia, I found that one entertaining.  Knowing Trump he quite possibly could have done just that.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on September 29, 2018, 06:12:54 PM
Wondering why Flake let a few unhinged protesters hold him captive in an open elevator.  He should have just walked away. If they wanted to discus their position, ok. But all they wanted to do was intimidate him. And they did. I see why he’s not running again
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Monroe Native on September 29, 2018, 06:37:36 PM
Wondering why Flake let a few unhinged protesters hold him captive in an open elevator.  He should have just walked away. If they wanted to discus their position, ok. But all they wanted to do was intimidate him. And they did. I see why he’s not running again

Flake flaked out a long time ago.

Probably hoping his bipartisan enlightenment will get him a job on MSNBC.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 30, 2018, 10:03:06 AM
Wondering why Flake let a few unhinged protesters hold him captive in an open elevator.  He should have just walked away. If they wanted to discus their position, ok. But all they wanted to do was intimidate him. And they did. I see why he’s not running again

He'd never get reelected again anyway.  What a twit.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 30, 2018, 10:03:58 AM
He does live up to his last name for sure..... ;D
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Monroe Native on September 30, 2018, 12:46:03 PM
I see the Democrats are already complaining about the scope of the FBI investigation - even though the boss said there was no limits to what they could look into.

You want to know why there is discourse in this country?

I give you Liberals and the Democratic Party.

They are not even happy when they get what they claim they wanted.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 30, 2018, 12:56:21 PM
The new party of 'No'....
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: The Fuzz on September 30, 2018, 02:49:29 PM
Regardless of how one stand on this, I would certainly like to find out the facts on this case and if what happened as I expect I would hope to see the Senate publish the results of this investigation.  I as a voter I demand to know the facts behind this and what procedures will be put in place to prevent it.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/30/brett-kavanaugh-graham-calls-probe-into-democrats-over-hearing/1478785002/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/30/brett-kavanaugh-graham-calls-probe-into-democrats-over-hearing/1478785002/)


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Graham, R-S.C., called for a probe into, among other things, who "betrayed Dr. Ford's trust" by leaking to the media her confidential letter about the allegations, why Ford didn't know the committee would come to her in California and who in Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein's office referred Ford to her lawyer, which he said is "illegal, inappropriate in the Senate."
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on September 30, 2018, 06:44:07 PM
The dems aren't getting what they want.  They don't want Trump appointing a conservative to the SCOTUS.  Their liberal game is over if that happens.  The court will overrule anything that isn't within the bound of the BOR and constitution.  And they are likely to get the government out off the abortion issue.  That will freak them out.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Monroe Native on September 30, 2018, 07:17:03 PM
I feel bad for everyone who knew Kavanaugh in High School that are probably being hounded by the FBI and the Press.

Anyone want to guess how many more gang rape victims the Democrats will trot out this week?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 30, 2018, 10:23:02 PM
I'll take a guess at 3...... ;D
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on October 01, 2018, 08:27:23 AM
Just read an article in The Blade that Kavanaugh lied about drinking beer at 18 when it was illegal.  He said he though the age was 21.   You just can't trust anyone later in life if they drank been when they were underage.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 01, 2018, 08:56:31 AM
Just read an article in The Blade that Kavanaugh lied about drinking beer at 18 when it was illegal.  He said he though the age was 21.   You just can't trust anyone later in life if they drank been when they were underage.

Getting a bit stupid if I don't say so myself.  I have a feeling that the Dems are going to take a bath in the mid terms.  People are realizing that the Dems stand for  all the wrong things.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Professor H on October 01, 2018, 02:37:10 PM
Just read an article in The Blade that Kavanaugh lied about drinking beer at 18 when it was illegal.  He said he though the age was 21.   You just can't trust anyone later in life if they drank been when they were underage.

the accuser drank beer at 15...

All it says is those preppy schools have pretty loose standards on morals  -   I'm sure the parents now a days are shocked  ;)
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Monroe Native on October 01, 2018, 03:39:47 PM
the accuser drank beer at 15...

All it says is those preppy schools have pretty loose standards on morals  -   I'm sure the parents now a days are shocked  ;)

People drank beer in high school?

This is breaking news?

It must be a slow news day!

 ;D
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on October 01, 2018, 03:57:42 PM
well drinking beer in HS is enough to keep Kavanaugh off the SC according to Dems
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Monroe Native on October 01, 2018, 05:12:34 PM
well drinking beer in HS is enough to keep Kavanaugh off the SC according to Dems

Didn't Bill Rape people, smoke joints, and do coke?

Wasn't that all okay according to the Democrats?

It's the history of now once again.

Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on October 01, 2018, 07:11:43 PM
And people don't understand why the liberals want to destroy history and rewrite it
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: John Kopke on October 01, 2018, 08:27:14 PM
Didn't Bill Rape people, smoke joints, and do coke?

Wasn't that all okay according to the Democrats?

It's the history of now once again.

MN:

Ain't it so. However, I'm at a loss. Don't, what once were normal Dems, see that the crazed leftists are running their party, and the absolute sleaze/by any means necessary tactics they are employing? I've seen no evidence, and it's sad. Doesn't bode well for our Republic. Afraid it can't be reversed. The left owns Hollywood and the public school system/colleges etc. The kids are being indoctrinated.
 
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 02, 2018, 08:39:57 AM
MN:

Ain't it so. However, I'm at a loss. Don't, what once were normal Dems, see that the crazed leftists are running their party, and the absolute sleaze/by any means necessary tactics they are employing? I've seen no evidence, and it's sad. Doesn't bode well for our Republic. Afraid it can't be reversed. The left owns Hollywood and the public school system/colleges etc. The kids are being indoctrinated.

At least with the schools, we sat by and let that happen.  You reap what you sew.  Read in the rag last night that MCCC is way down on enrollment.  The head liberal states..'They are bleeding and they need to get it under control.  I chuckled about that.  You real what you sew....  Probably raise the tuition again to cover the difference.  They (educators) have to be paid after all.  Most of them cannot do anything meaningful anyway, except educate or indoctrinate.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 02, 2018, 08:41:06 AM
I see another 'victim' has come out of the woodwork.  Old Brett was quite a player when he was younger....  Any port in the storm I guess....lol
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on October 02, 2018, 09:44:52 AM
And they keep dragging up all the parties he went to when he was a teenager..Wow, what a misguided kid he must have been
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Professor H on October 02, 2018, 09:48:11 AM
At least with the schools, we sat by and let that happen.  You reap what you sew.  Read in the rag last night that MCCC is way down on enrollment.  The head liberal states..'They are bleeding and they need to get it under control.  I chuckled about that.  You real what you sew....  Probably raise the tuition again to cover the difference.  They (educators) have to be paid after all.  Most of them cannot do anything meaningful anyway, except educate or indoctrinate.

Interesting and shows the failures of leadership at the top...   

Community colleges should be filled with people looking for skills that the workforce is looking for... 
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Professor H on October 02, 2018, 09:48:55 AM
I hear that throwing Ice is a horrible thing...      news worthy of the anti-anything Trump rags...
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on October 02, 2018, 10:23:10 AM
Repubs need to vote sat morning after the FBI done with the one week exercise, unless they really find something which at this point seems impossible. The Dems will never get over it but that's okay.  They talk about impeaching him but I don't think there is a process for that.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: nails on October 02, 2018, 10:43:19 AM
I have a question for all the people reading these posts.

Specifically... to Democrats, my question is . . .

Do you believe the Kavanaugh hearings are a delay tactic, or do you think it’s a legitimate reason to rule out a candidate by going back to high school days. Not to mention unsubstantiated claims of “copping a feel” at a party that cannot even be confirmed.

I’m asking this because I don’t believe any of the MSM, or the polls.
But I am curious as to what the average voter thinks.



Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 02, 2018, 11:22:08 AM
I have a question for all the people reading these posts.

If there are any of Democrats, my question is . . .

Do you believe the Kavanaugh hearings are a delay tactic, or do you think it’s a legitimate reason to rule out a candidate by going back to high school days. Not to mention unsubstantiated claims of “copping a feel” at a party that cannot even be confirmed.

Good question to ask as there must be at least some D's out there reading along....
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Monroe Native on October 02, 2018, 12:31:09 PM
All the Democrats are getting ready for the Blue Wave so they can take power and kill off the economy.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 02, 2018, 08:42:04 PM
Don't think that will happen anytime soon.  Least I hope not.  Like the neighbor gal said to me this evening, 'you cannot fix stupid'...
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on October 03, 2018, 09:02:43 AM
Well yeah, the democrats will vote for anyone that party rolls out.  Hopefully there are enough republicans do the same thing and enough independents decide they kind of like what Trump is doing.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on October 03, 2018, 09:30:45 AM
"Lol. All set up by the Dems.  We the people see it loud and clear. "

Posting a comment made by a liberal friend of mine regarding a txt about Fiensteins husband being being on the board of the university where Kavanaughs accuser is a professor.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Monroe Native on October 03, 2018, 11:05:41 AM
Looks like the FBI is finishing up early.

I'm sure the Democrats will find fault with their report.

Of course the Democrats seemed to have already moved onto the temperament argument.

What a joke.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 03, 2018, 12:54:05 PM
I sometimes wonder what true blue Dems think about the current state of affairs in DC.  I find the hypocrisy over the top.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on October 03, 2018, 07:48:58 PM
I know a few that were union Stewarts that always followed orders on who to vote for.  Now they seem to be pro Trump on all their facebook stuff.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Professor H on October 04, 2018, 07:49:23 AM
Now the report is out - with no corroboration... 

what will the next delay tactic be?

did they pay off Flake again for something else?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on October 04, 2018, 07:51:12 AM
I think they need to threaten Flake that he'll never make it back to AZ.  Kind of the Clinton way of doing business.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 04, 2018, 12:45:13 PM
Flake don't care, he's a lame duck anyway.  He's pandering to the Dems in hopes of doing something to make money after his term ends.

With a name like Flake, you cannot expect anything more....or less.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 04, 2018, 12:49:23 PM
Here is my take...

If Brett isn't confirmed, after the mid terms, so long as the Dems cannot get a majority in the house, Kavanaugh will be re-appointed and confirmed then.

He's going to get there one way or another whether Schumer, Feinstein and the rest of the mud slingers want it or not.

I want him as a Justice because that will effectively end the Dem's fantasy about re-writing the Constitution to their liking.

Don't forget, Trump can do this again if he garners a second term, which, I believe he will.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on October 04, 2018, 03:49:18 PM
And you have to know Ginsburg isn't going to last much longer on the court.  She'll either die or be more delusional .
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 04, 2018, 05:09:00 PM
She looks like 5 miles of bad road as it is...........She has to be mindless.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Monroe Native on October 04, 2018, 07:08:56 PM
And you have to know Ginsburg isn't going to last much longer on the court.  She'll either die or be more delusional .

If Trump gets to name her replacement - the Liberals will totally lose their minds.

I'd love to see that show.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: John Kopke on October 04, 2018, 08:25:32 PM
I wasn't overwhelmed with the selection of Kavanaugh. I thought he would be more reliable than Kennedy, but I also thought he might be a Roberts (aka Obamacare ruling) when push came to shove. Now if he gets through I think, after the sleaze the left threw at him, he won't be siding with the left
even on the close ones where he might have been sympathetic.   
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 04, 2018, 08:54:10 PM
If you were Brett Kavanaugh would you forget the drubbing?  I think not.  The *** hole Dems have really dug themselves a hole this time and the 'Blue Wave' has been reduced to a yellow trickle that even Flo-Max won't help. ;D
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on October 04, 2018, 09:35:10 PM
If Trump gets to name her replacement - the Liberals will totally lose their minds.

I'd love to see that show.

She can't last 6 more years..
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: jbs49238 on October 05, 2018, 12:20:54 AM
I have waited on purpose to weigh in on this.  The Democrats have painted themselves into an corner which I am not sure they can escape.  Kavanaugh is going to be confirmed the economy is going to continue to roar, all the Democrats have left are the wilted old grannys and gampies that I had to listen to squwak while I tried to eat dinner in public setting and minds full of mush that have yet to realize the Democrat party is about establishing tyranny over the people.

Don't get me wrong... there are seats that the Democrats will NEVER lose, and until that day comes we will always be subject to the hilarity that comes from those seats, but America is at a point where we can afford to leave hilarity behinds us, leave failed political thought behind us and guide our own future.  Trump may not be the poster child of America in regards to political candor, but he has been a HELLUVA wake up call!!!  He wasn't my first choice but he has sparked a revolution.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on October 05, 2018, 08:47:57 AM
I have to agree that the Dems seem to have painted themselves into a corner with their almost unlawful activities and rhetoric.  There is a fringe base that is going to lap that up but I believe the Dems have jumpstarted a number of people that really never cared much for politics and they might be voting..
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 05, 2018, 10:02:44 AM
When you have a political faction that is blatantly opposite what the majority wants and is so open about it, people will take notice.  Exactly what is happening now.  I think the mid terms will be a disaster for the Democrat party.  Schumer, Pelosi and Feinstein can take credit for that.

Now, having said that I did vote for a couple Dems on my absentee voter ballot, not that I'm a Dem because I'm not but in this case, having a D or R next to your name has no bearing on what I look for in a candidate.  I review their track record, voting preferences and planks and then decide.

Candidly, I voted Libertarian for governor.  No way would I vote for Schutte or Whitmer.  Neither one in my view are worthy candidates.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: jbs49238 on October 05, 2018, 12:29:09 PM
Agreed the best candidate for Governor got left behind in the R primary... he wasn't swampy enough to get party funds.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 05, 2018, 07:23:56 PM
Much to the chagrin of dems, it looks like Kavanaugh will get appointed.  It also looks like Feinstein, Schumer and Blasey Ford have their collective teats in the wringer.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on October 05, 2018, 07:52:05 PM
I think tomorrow we are going to see a lot of liberals heads explode.  And after the vote, that won't be the end of the paid protests and democrat idiotic comments and actions.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: jbs49238 on October 05, 2018, 08:55:56 PM
Been protesting since 2016... why stop now?  They lose more and more voters every day.  I say encourage 'em and put them in the spot light, day after day after day after day until November.  New polls out today show Dems now losing seats in the House and Senate!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Monroe Native on October 05, 2018, 09:29:20 PM
If nothing else - this has been an entertaining interlude. 

Now we will return to the regularly scheduled mania about Russian Collusion.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: sammy on October 05, 2018, 10:44:46 PM
If nothing else - this has been an entertaining interlude. 

Now we will return to the regularly scheduled mania about Russian Collusion.
First, I'm amazed that I remembered my password. Second, we are not yet done with Kavanaugh mania. We will go back to Russia in due time, but, in a line from "Gladiator", not yet, not yet. And welcome back, sammy.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 05, 2018, 10:47:25 PM
Sammy is right.  It's not done yet.  I'm really curious to see what Grassley has up his sleeve concerning Ford, the Dems and Feinstein.  He has some serious dirt no doubt.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 05, 2018, 10:49:33 PM
Really, this isn't about Kavanaugh, it's about Trump getting elected President and how the Dems can't digest that.  I want to say 'get over it, but obviously they cannot.  Trump gets another 4 years they will explode for sure.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: sammy on October 05, 2018, 10:50:50 PM
Sammy is right.  It's not done yet.  I'm really curious to see what Grassley has up his sleeve concerning Ford, the Dems and Feinstein.  He has some serious dirt no doubt.
I doubt it, and if he does, now is not the right time for it.Absolutely!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: sammy on October 05, 2018, 10:53:45 PM
Really, this isn't about Kavanaugh, it's about Trump getting elected President and how the Dems can't digest that.  I want to say 'get over it, but obviously they cannot.  Trump gets another 4 years they will explode for sure.
Way too early to predict another two years. We still have two years to go on a first term.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on October 06, 2018, 08:26:32 AM
I'm not in favor of republicans going on a Mueller type witch hunt against the dems over the Ford situation.  If they have some real hard evidence of criminal activities, well maybe.  The people are pretty much fed up with all the bickering.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 06, 2018, 08:53:49 AM
Way too early to predict another two years. We still have two years to go on a first term.

Fair statement but...  The Dems don't have anyone worth beans to run except Bloomberg and he isn't either.  He'd have to buy his way to Washington.  I realize he's rich but I cannot believe he has enough cash to do that.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 06, 2018, 08:54:43 AM
I'm not in favor of republicans going on a Mueller type witch hunt against the dems over the Ford situation.  If they have some real hard evidence of criminal activities, well maybe.  The people are pretty much fed up with all the bickering.

Neither am I and I don't think anyone else is either.  The Muller fiasco has been just that, a fiasco, a costly one.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Monroe Native on October 06, 2018, 08:59:23 AM
First, I'm amazed that I remembered my password. Second, we are not yet done with Kavanaugh mania. We will go back to Russia in due time, but, in a line from "Gladiator", not yet, not yet. And welcome back, sammy.

Welcome back Sammy!

5:00 is coming.
Title: Attorneys opinion wanted
Post by: nails on October 06, 2018, 03:50:01 PM

Surely we have some legal scholars reading . . .

My question is . . .

 With all the unsubstantiated allegations that have been directed toward Kavanaugh, why do we never see charges of slander, or defamation of character? Or even hear mention of it.

Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Monroe Native on October 06, 2018, 05:44:57 PM
Congrats to Judge Kavanaugh on having the fortitude to not back down when faced down by the forces of Liberal slander, libel, and deceit.

I hope there are no long term repercussions for the Democrats actions - but you know there will be - from Democrats.

He is right - I doubt he ever gets the opportunity to teach law again.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Monroe Native on October 06, 2018, 05:48:07 PM
I think we will have to pretend forever that Dr Ford was somehow molested someplace by someone at sometime.

If you don't pretend to believe this the METOO movement will come after you.

I do think  that there is a possibility that at some point the source of the leak might be identified - and hopefully the motives for doing so.
Title: Re: Attorneys opinion wanted
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 06, 2018, 06:17:13 PM
Surely we have some legal scholars reading . . .

My question is . . .

 With all the unsubstantiated allegations that have been directed toward Kavanaugh, why do we never see charges of slander, or defamation of character? Or even hear mention of it.

Good question.  I don't think Kavanaugh can take anyone to task over allegations, substantiated or otherwise because it's a process (ha) of conformation.  Could be wrong though.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 06, 2018, 06:19:33 PM
I think we will have to pretend forever that Dr Ford was somehow molested someplace by someone at sometime.

If you don't pretend to believe this the METOO movement will come after you.

I do think  that there is a possibility that at some point the source of the leak might be identified - and hopefully the motives for doing so.

My take on Ford is this:  She was a spoiled rich gal that spread her legs without consequence during college and high school and I believe she was accosted by someone but not Kavanaugh.  For all we know, the accosting might have been consensual.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on October 06, 2018, 06:52:20 PM
I'm pretty sure she was a spoiled rich kid.  Got some info from a guy that use to be a college prof and he always knows everything about everybody.  He comes from NY.  He says this Ford fam is related to everybody that is everything.  I haven't seen anything on her background and relatives so maybe she is connected to the rich and famous.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: sammy on October 06, 2018, 10:40:17 PM
I'm pretty sure she was a spoiled rich kid.  Got some info from a guy that use to be a college prof and he always knows everything about everybody.  He comes from NY.  He says this Ford fam is related to everybody that is everything.  I haven't seen anything on her background and relatives so maybe she is connected to the rich and famous.
That gives us about as much information as Avenatti. Not admissible.Stop that!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 07, 2018, 06:24:07 AM
Normal people don't send their kids to private schools and have vacation homes on the beach out east.  They are rich, snobby and above reproach.... ;D
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 07, 2018, 06:25:53 AM
Kavanaugh got the votes (51-49) so he's good to go.  I bet the liberal snowflakes and the Dems in the Senate are livid.  Oh well, poop happens....lol
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Monroe Native on October 07, 2018, 09:25:12 AM
Quote
The justices themselves made a quiet show of solidarity. Kavanaugh was sworn in by Chief Justice John Roberts and the man he’s replacing, retired Justice Anthony Kennedy, as fellow Justices Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Elena Kagan looked on — two conservatives and two liberals.

Still, Kagan noted the night before that Kennedy has been “a person who found the center” and ‘it’s not so clear we’ll have that’ now.

If Kagan thinks that it is important for someone to "find the center" she could try it for a change.

I find her rulings to be very partisan, very left, and based on how she thinks things "should" be instead of what the Constitution and Laws say they are.

But hey - if she would like to fill the Kennedy roll - that would be great.

https://www.apnews.com/8234f0b8a6194d8b89ff79f9b0c94f35/Kavanaugh-is-confirmed:-Senate-Oks-Supreme-Court-nominee (https://www.apnews.com/8234f0b8a6194d8b89ff79f9b0c94f35/Kavanaugh-is-confirmed:-Senate-Oks-Supreme-Court-nominee)
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: John Kopke on October 08, 2018, 08:59:16 PM
That gives us about as much information as Avenatti. Not admissible.Stop that!

I'm with you Sammy.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: John Kopke on October 08, 2018, 09:14:59 PM
I like everybody for Kavanaugh based our case against Doctor Ford's accusation on the fact that she couldn't corroborate her accusation. The four people she said were at the party said they weren't, further her friend, not only didn't recall the party, she said she didn't even know Kavanaugh.

End of story right? Well put a dress on me and call me Alice. How about the fact Kavanaugh said it never happened and the 4 people Ford said were at the party said it didn't happen, doesn't that corroborate what Kav claimed? 

Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 08, 2018, 09:19:23 PM
Not sure anymore but I read the Dems want to impeach Kavanaugh.  Didn't know that was possible.  I do know one thing and that is,. the Dems really screwed the pooch on the mid terms.

I did vote for Walberg's Democratic rival.  I think Walberg is a turd.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: John Kopke on October 08, 2018, 10:46:13 PM

I did vote for Walberg's Democratic rival.  I think Walberg is a turd.

Side, you're right, Walberg is a turd, but he votes the party line. But what makes his Dem opponent more attractive on the issues. Is she going to be
a pro-Trump, pro-business rep or a climate change fanatic, a free college,
single payer health care type against anything Trump proposes? You should have held your nose and voted Walberg.

Siding with Side. Whenever it occurs to me to think about what our congressman is doing, it always takes me a while to recall his name is.
Still you have to convince me whoever is running against what's his name
is going to promote the agenda I'm looking for.   
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 08, 2018, 11:26:18 PM
I've seen Walberg in action (or should I say inaction before).  Not impressed at all.  Don't know if you know it but he's in bed with big oil here in Michigan.  He has 2 producing wells on his Tipton property, one right next  to his house and operated by Savoy Energy.  Don't you find it a coincidence that Savoy is also the big player in oil in Lenawee County?

I held my nose and voted for his opponent.  I've seen too much of Walberg's inaction, graft and corruption.  Time to go.  I did my part.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 08, 2018, 11:27:09 PM
No Zorn and no Schutte / Whitmer either.  All turds.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on October 09, 2018, 08:43:34 AM
I've been in a mode of voting for who I think will be the least dangerous once in office.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 09, 2018, 10:32:17 AM
Me too.  Least dangerous and least left wing.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: old salt on October 09, 2018, 11:41:19 AM
Yeah, I'd have a beer with him.

(https://antzinpantz.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/scotus.jpg?w=640)
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 09, 2018, 08:43:01 PM
Ginsberg looks asleep.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: John Kopke on October 10, 2018, 07:11:35 PM
Yeah, I'd have a beer with him.

(https://antzinpantz.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/scotus.jpg?w=640)

Salt, glad you're chipping in of late. Obviously the cartoon is a hit on K. Ginsburg doesn't look asleep, just transfixed. However, I will say the author of this hit could of had Ginsburg nodding off to somewhat soften their partisanship. The point Side was making. I sure libs find it hilarious. I think the libs will continue to savage K.,  at least until Ginsburg seat becomes vacant. Then they'll be focused on absolutely nuking whomever Trump picks to replace her.   

I'm thinking his pick will be the woman judge (too lazy to research her name) that is a devout Catholic, pro-life and the mother of 6 children. So how will Dems nuke her? Do you think they find some high school classmates that will attest to her being a druggy/drinker s***? While I wouldn't put it past them, I think they'll attack her for being "too" religious.
Yes folks that's a problem. She will be the poster girl for all those evil people who go to church and believe in God. The horror!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 10, 2018, 08:05:32 PM
I think it will be a female conservative as well.  How about Nikki Haley?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on October 10, 2018, 09:09:27 PM
Excellent choice.   Heads will explode
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Monroe Native on October 11, 2018, 07:19:57 PM
Amy Coney Barrett is the ticket.

She is about the most Conservative potential candidate out there - and I'd love to see her accused of running the gang rape rooms in High School and College.

I hope she gets to replace RBG.  It would be fitting.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 11, 2018, 09:35:20 PM
Looks to me like RBG is only half there anyway.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: jbs49238 on November 03, 2018, 03:58:22 AM
I think we will have to pretend forever that Dr Ford was somehow molested someplace by someone at sometime.

If you don't pretend to believe this the METOO movement will come after you.

I do think  that there is a possibility that at some point the source of the leak might be identified - and hopefully the motives for doing so.

Not a chance, the Democrat party moves too swiftly for that, by the time anyone in the media would feel outraged enough to investigate this leak, the Democrats have already orchestrated 4 more con jobs to grab their propaganda wings attention

1. Hurricane Michael -- Climate Change -- Ended up hitting a mostly Republican area of a Republican state with minimal news drama and excellent government and private sector response.  Even the Weather Channel left Florida in about 3 days...

2. Jamal Kashoggi murder -- War on the Press -- Yup the Saudi crown prince ordered it but that didn't stop the American media from its own "this could happen to us under the Administration" story line.  Not that the killing of any human is OK... when it became learned that Kasshoggi was a Muslim Brotherhood operative that hated womens rights, actually hated America and any hint of Western influence, the media quickly moved on.

3. Fake Bomber -- Violent Rhetoric -- For years this country has needed to do something about mental disorders/disabilities.  Gaps in our system have unfairly forced people with serious issues to have to figure out things for themselves.  Neither party has a good solution, nor is seeking a good solution for this... the fact the fake bombs targeted Democrats was great news for a few days but now that the issue is focused on mental health, the media and left have moved on.

4. Pittsburgh -- Violent Rhetoric -- The most false of false... An anti-semite walks into a place of worship and kills 11 people.  The media immediately (I mean before the sun set) blames Trump.  We have now learned that the suspect is an avowed Trump hater because of his stance on Isreal and just hates Jews.  Normally gold for the media except for the hates Trump part.   

Just yesterday CNN was talking about Russian hacking in early voting....

Who is Brett Kavanaugh???
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 03, 2018, 09:04:43 AM
Looks to me like at least some of the Kavanaugh accusers will get criminally prosecuted for lying under oath.  No issue with me.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Professor H on November 03, 2018, 09:26:11 AM
Second referral going out for the woman who lied cause she was "mad"...

if they don't prosecute these fully - the next time around the crazies will come out like flies! 

Especially since they learned the original one got nearly 1 million dollars for her "troubles"...
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on November 03, 2018, 09:37:13 AM
But if the dems somehow take control of the House next week the only thing that will matter is impeaching Trump and Kavanaugh although there is no legal basis for doing that.  But when did that matter to a bunch of lunatics?

DST ends tonight!!!!!!
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Sinha on November 03, 2018, 10:59:17 AM
It's going to be ugly if they take the House. But they won't. They lost every battle they picked with Trump and they'll lose the midterms too.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 03, 2018, 12:47:51 PM
It's going to be ugly if they take the House. But they won't. They lost every battle they picked with Trump and they'll lose the midterms too.

I don't believe they will take either house.  My feeling is they will lose seats, not gain them. What irritates me to no end is the dysfunctional attitude the Republicans display.  For the last 2 years they had everything in the pocket and did nothing.  Kind of like Michigan...lol

Welcome to the forum by the way,  Pull up a chair and post.  Good people on here.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Monroe Native on November 03, 2018, 09:22:05 PM
It's going to be ugly if they take the House. But they won't. They lost every battle they picked with Trump and they'll lose the midterms too.

I hope you are right!

Welcome to the forum.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Tim Heiss on November 03, 2018, 09:25:22 PM
I don't believe they will take either house.  My feeling is they will lose seats, not gain them.
I agree. Right now they have a great scapegoat with Trump. If they try and throw out Hillary for another run in 2020, it will only prove that they are actually quite content with the way things are going and get to blame Trump if anything goes wrong. Meanwhile the corporate campaign contributions will continue to flow in.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Monroe Native on November 03, 2018, 09:26:55 PM
Meanwhile the corporate campaign contributions will continue to flow in.

To both parties.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Tim Heiss on November 03, 2018, 09:36:34 PM
To both parties.
Agreed. Or should that be Ah, greed? Meh, either way :-\
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: blue2 on November 03, 2018, 09:41:45 PM
You're right the republicans had opportunities but the leaders in congress hated Trump.  Ryan still does and McConnell apparently has toned it down a little.  I don't think he's a Trump fan yet but he's less hostile
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 04, 2018, 10:46:10 AM
Not 100% Trump myself but the alternative to Trump is not very palatable.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: whispers on January 29, 2019, 12:51:47 PM
Anybody seen Ruth lately?
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 29, 2019, 04:40:20 PM
Anybody seen Ruth lately?

Actually, NO.  I've heard nothing lately.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: Serafin on April 26, 2019, 07:18:54 AM
Well, that paints a slightly different picture, doesn't it? What slightly worries is that the Mexican soldiers "thought" the American soldiers were on Mexican soil. That sounds fishy to me.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: whispers on April 26, 2019, 07:40:46 AM
This was posted yesterday April 25, 2019 -  Interesting these types of international incursions occur frequently and particularly during the Obama Administration.  Now whether or not the armed intruders were Mexican soldiers or drug cartel members isn't known yet ( for public to know).

A policy, as a mandate, I believe there should be combat ready military units permanently stationed and rotating duty stations down and across the north with Canada. There points all across the north in remote areas where there no security at all. I have a friend in New Hampshire who tells me there is a well-known store with a back facing Canada and front door leading to the streets of that little town and the local joke is seeing people walking in one door and out the other unchecked.

Alot of foreigners partiulalry Mexicans and Chineese head to Canada and end up in Seattle, Washington and California too. Albainans,  Chineese, amd middle eastern types can sometimes running free as deer through Downriver Detroit neighborhoods from nightime boating landing points across the Detroit River at night despite Border patrols. 

Go into a local eatery or local CVS and its not uncommon to stand in line and you may hear three or four groups speaking Russian, Spanish, Arabic, and other native languages and no English, using sign language to make a simple purchase. You wait in long lines as these people haggle and struggle to communicate and wonder if this is even America any longer or Toronto.

Volunteer at some of these polling places during elections and you'll see people assisting those who cannot speak or read English using interpreters to explain and point out who to vote for. It's all disgusting. 

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Headline:  Trump Sends Warning to Mexico After Its Soldiers Draw Guns on US Troops in US: ‘Better Not Happen Again!’

"President Donald Trump sent Mexico a warning Wednesday in response to an incident in which Mexican troops reportedly pointed their weapons at U.S. troops.

“Mexico’s Soldiers recently pulled guns on our National Guard Soldiers, probably as a diversionary tactic for drug smugglers on the Border. Better not happen again! We are now sending ARMED SOLDIERS to the Border. Mexico is not doing nearly enough in apprehending & returning!” Trump tweeted Wednesday.


Although the American troops were on U.S. soil, they apparently drove past a border fence that the Mexicans thought marked the boundary, while the incident actually took place just north of the official border. The foreign soldiers pointed weapons and confronted the Americans, even temporarily disarming them.



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Source: By Jack Davis, Western Journal, Published April 24, 2019 at 10:21am
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 26, 2019, 09:49:09 AM
Well, that paints a slightly different picture, doesn't it? What slightly worries is that the Mexican soldiers "thought" the American soldiers were on Mexican soil. That sounds fishy to me.

They were in an ummarked vehicle (I presume a civillian pickup truck) and were questioned and released.  They relinquished their handguns to the Mexican soldiers voluntarily and had them returned after the Mexican's determined who they were.  Was a mix up not an incident that people are inflating...  as usual.

I happen to be good friends with a retired border patrol officer,  He knows the skinny.
Title: Re: Kavanaugh conformation has turned into a political hack job
Post by: whispers on April 26, 2019, 07:51:29 PM
They were in an ummarked vehicle (I presume a civillian pickup truck) and were questioned and released.  They relinquished their handguns to the Mexican soldiers voluntarily and had them returned after the Mexican's determined who they were.  Was a mix up not an incident that people are inflating...  as usual.

I happen to be good friends with a retired border patrol officer,  He knows the skinny.


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I knew a number of them and worked with many on the "Late Show" midnight shift.  They use to back us  met their intelligence people I use to talk with a police officer often on midnights who joined the USBP and was killed down there by weapons provided to cartel members by ATF in the Holder / Obama gun scandal. As you can there have many "mix ups," for a very long time. 


Headline:  Armed Mexican Troops Have Crossed the U.S. Border More Than 300 Times Since 2004 

"McALLEN, TEXAS — Armed Mexican military troops and Mexican law enforcement officials have crossed the United States border more than 300 times since 2004, according to a written response from the Department of Homeland Security to a California congressman. The offenders have reportedly never been prosecuted for crossing illegally with loaded weapons."

" In fact, a 2006 DHS map obtained by this reporter revealed that the Mexican military had crossed into the United States 216 times from 1996 to 2006. One of the maps had the seal of the president’s National Drug Control Policy."

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Source:  The Blaze, Sara Carter, Jun 17, 2014,  http://www.theblaze.com/news/2014/06/17/armed-mexican-troops-have-crossed-the-u-s-border-more-than-300-times-since-2004 (http://www.theblaze.com/news/2014/06/17/armed-mexican-troops-have-crossed-the-u-s-border-more-than-300-times-since-2004)