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Title: Brain dead school system?
Post by: Normal Joe on January 12, 2008, 03:42:13 PM
Detroit student didn't know he was shot in class until he got home
Candice Williams / The Detroit News
DETROIT -- School officials are investigating an incident in which a student was accidentally shot in a Finney High School classroom Wednesday afternoon, but didn't know it until he got home.

The teen that brought the gun to school is being held at the Wayne County Juvenile Detention Facility, Detroit Police said.

A shot from a 22-caliber gun grazed a ninth grader in the thigh during an afternoon science class, said Detroit Public Schools spokesman Steve Wasko.

"We understand that he was shot by a gun that was shot accidentally," he said. "Whether or not the bag dropped or the gun dropped out of the bag we don't know. This was not a premeditated incident."

The teacher heard a noise, but didn't know what it was, Wasko said.  ;)

The student was treated at a hospital and released Wednesday. The teen that had the gun, also a male ninth grade student, was arrested by police later that night. On Thursday, district public safety officers conducted a weapons sweep of the school. No other guns were found.

"Clearly we'll be concerned whenever a weapon is in the building," Wasko said. "The metal detectors are being checked. It was an accident and a very unusual situation at that."

Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: crazeemom on January 12, 2008, 03:48:23 PM
Where there is a will there is a way.  How crazy is that?
Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: JKC on January 27, 2008, 09:17:07 PM
When you have to have metal detectors and security guards its time to MOVE!

When we lived out in Adrian in the 90's and the school brought in security guards, we just looked at each other and quickly decided we were ten minutes late for the door!  We started making plans immediately to go back to Trenton where there is no need for security guards to this day.....

And to think we moved out there because we thought "living in the country" would be good for the kids!

Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: Griff on February 11, 2008, 01:38:04 PM
Detroit student didn't know he was shot in class until he got home

I looked, none of my body parts are known as 'class.'

The headline should properly read:
"Detroit student didn't know he was shot while in class until he got returned home.

peace,
Griff
Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: kmykimi on July 22, 2013, 03:51:48 AM
We've heard so many school shooting incidents these days. We should pay more attention to the security of schools. And I can't believe that why the metal detectors are not applied in schools. Metal detectors can be seen everywhere in today's society that they are applied in public places where there are a large flow of people. So metal detectors (http://www.detectorall.com/categories/Metal-Detectors/) are also needed in schools.
Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 22, 2013, 09:13:11 AM
We've heard so many school shooting incidents these days. We should pay more attention to the security of schools. And I can't believe that why the metal detectors are not applied in schools. Metal detectors can be seen everywhere in today's society that they are applied in public places where there are a large flow of people. So metal detectors ([url]http://www.detectorall.com/categories/Metal-Detectors/[/url]) are also needed in schools.


Sounds to me like someone is selling metal detectors :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: Monroe Native on July 22, 2013, 08:27:01 PM
Maybe Parents should be making sure they get their kids to school - unarmed.

Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: JN Coin-Bank on May 31, 2015, 09:32:10 AM
Now here's a kid that just might make it through the zombification center publik skools sistem relatively unscathed:

(http://i0.wp.com/knuckledraggin.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/thumbs_045.jpg)
Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: The Fuzz on May 31, 2015, 09:53:46 AM
LOL, yup, some good wit and humor there at a young age.

Who do you blame for your rating of the public school system.......government, a social environment where some kids have parents not interested in their education, uneducated parents, single family parents that have little time to help their kids, or do you just blame the teachers?
Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: JN Coin-Bank on May 31, 2015, 10:08:37 AM
Who do you blame for your rating of the public school system.......


      Personally I lay the blame squarely on All-of-the-Above, not to mention the cultural marxists who specifically - and successfully - targetted the skoolz for their Early and Often political indoctrination well over a hundred years ago. 

     Look up "Fabian Socialists" for more info, but here's a quick primer written four years ago: Looking Backward 123 Years Later (http://www.thenewamerican.com/reviews/opinion/item/10780-looking-backward-123-years-later)
Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: The Fuzz on May 31, 2015, 10:20:24 AM
Thanks.....good read, I follow some of the rationale.

I would blame all of the above too, except for the teachers.  I think their hands have been tied down so bad with dictated curriculum, then throw on all of the socioeconomic factors and I can't see placing blame on the individual teachers.
Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: JN Coin-Bank on May 31, 2015, 10:27:06 AM
I would blame all of the above too, except for the teachers.

Publik skool teechers (and their private/parochial counterparts who accept pilfered federal funding) are the main ingredient in that pot of rotten stew.  Just like cops one can't paint them all as bad in a single stroke but the very systems they work for encourage abuse and (leftist) political indoctrination of the masses of humanity.  Hence they are part of the problem, and solutions to nothing.
Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: The Fuzz on May 31, 2015, 10:39:45 AM
OK, then what is your recommended solution?
Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: JN Coin-Bank on May 31, 2015, 10:58:51 AM
OK, then what is your recommended solution?

Not all of humanity's problems have human solutions but for anything to improve the state of education here "government" must first be removed from the enterprise, entirely.
Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: The Fuzz on May 31, 2015, 11:13:03 AM
I agree on the no solution on all of humanity's problems, the same applies to the cultural and social ills of this country's inner cities as well.

I've never supported the Feds being involved intimately involved in public schools as I believe for the most part is an unnecessary duplication of what should administered by each State.

I see the public school degradation on the ills of society, be it social or economic.  Children are willing to learn, and in fact love it, but I believe the measurable success of a student depends on the involvement of a parent or parents.  I grew up in a single parent home and not much time or emphasis at all placed on education......and my grades reflected it as well as the amount of hard effort I had to put forward to go back to college and retake fundamental classes.  Now my children had both of us at home and they excelled in school, and are successful adults IMO. 

I also think folks look down on the school systems because they see the amount of tax dollars they have to contribute to it.  Schools are too bureaucratic where the bulk of the salary dollars of the system go to administrators and support staff.  The teachers themselves are not getting rich out of the money distribution.

Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: Professor H on May 31, 2015, 12:21:22 PM
Education includes what you get at Home, as well as discipline and those are areas that all the money and teachers in the world can't control.

Lack of discipline - (no consequences ) teaches some youth they can get away with anything, until they run into the Legal process.

Forcing all into one program for the schools is the biggest mistake they've made...   
we don't need every child dumbed down to a level that all can pass -
yet schools are punished if all don't pass so what do you think they will be doing?
Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: blue2 on May 31, 2015, 02:20:32 PM
Teachers are now being forced to give academic achievement awards to kids that shouldn't even be in a regular classroom because they aren't capable of keepin up.  Other students not so impressed with their awards anymore.  But the really smart kids don't care about awards anyway
Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: Frenchfry on June 03, 2015, 12:33:57 AM
Publik skool teechers (and their private/parochial counterparts who accept pilfered federal funding) are the main ingredient in that pot of rotten stew.  Just like cops one can't paint them all as bad in a single stroke but the very systems they work for encourage abuse and (leftist) political indoctrination of the masses of humanity.  Hence they are part of the problem, and solutions to nothing.
The part in bold was the absolute confirmation of your reincarnation.

But why aren't you still posting under your Pax moniker?
Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: Professor H on June 03, 2015, 07:49:35 AM
Probably forgot the password... 
Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 05, 2015, 08:01:50 AM
I see Dumdee voters voted down the bond continuation yesterday.  I can't fault that.  You pay and pay and pay and they want more...

Sort of like MCCC's 'in perpetuity' bond issue.....

Fiscal responsibility is at all levels not just state and federal.
Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: Professor H on August 06, 2015, 01:28:23 PM
Actually they didn't sell it properly - and would have been better off with a new plan instead of the perpetuation of something different.

Fiscal responsibility is to ensure the physical plant is maintained - or else they will end up like Jefferson having to close buildings they can't.

Setting aside money that can't be used for salaries isn't a bad idea.    Problem is they can't do it unless the wording of the millage says so.
Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: blue2 on August 06, 2015, 03:21:32 PM
Schools are like everything else..City's , counties,state local and federal governments.
They all are dealing with bloated workforces with wages medical and pensions they can't afford.
Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: Professor H on August 06, 2015, 04:07:03 PM
Actually the deflation that seems to be rampant is harder to deal with at the government level... 
and you wonder why people are willing to pay millions for those jobs!
Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: Professor H on October 25, 2015, 10:54:06 AM
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/oct/25/obama-cap-class-time-devoted-standardize-student-t/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/oct/25/obama-cap-class-time-devoted-standardize-student-t/)

So which is it - reward or limit?   The feds have pushed for standardization that has ruined our educational system
Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 25, 2015, 03:39:29 PM
Schools are like everything else..City's , counties,state local and federal governments.
They all are dealing with bloated workforces with wages medical and pensions they can't afford.

My issue with public education is with the educators themselves.  I'm totally against teachers being unionized to the point where they hold that over the students like a weight...

Doctors aren't unionized, why should teachers be?
Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: The Fuzz on October 25, 2015, 03:43:29 PM
Some food for thought.....not all Charter schools are unionized?  Some are able to however piggy back on to the far less gracious health insurance that some of us enjoy.

My issue with public education is the overhead salaries and the number of their positions.  Wanna bang for your buck in reducing public education cost......check out the administrative salaries available over the internet, and the number of them.
Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 25, 2015, 03:47:07 PM
Like Jim Berryman (mayor of Adrian), retired head of the MTA.  Everytime I see a picture of him, I wanna puke.

Unionized educators put their wages/benefits ahead of everything else and thats bs, far asd I'm concerned...
Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: Professor H on October 26, 2015, 09:32:25 AM
Some food for thought.....not all Charter schools are unionized?  Some are able to however piggy back on to the far less gracious health insurance that some of us enjoy.

My issue with public education is the overhead salaries and the number of their positions.  Wanna bang for your buck in reducing public education cost......check out the administrative salaries available over the internet, and the number of them.
Someone has to fill out all the State and Federal paperwork - how else do you get all the data.   Get the Feds and State out of the mandate business, and let schools go back to teaching

Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: The Fuzz on October 26, 2015, 10:52:47 AM
I agree that State and Federal paperwork is an issue, and a duplication of oversight.  Should be one or the other IMO.....get rid of the department at either the State or Federal level.

Wanna entertain yourself, just look through the organizational structure and overhead to run MPS.  Is all that really necessary?

http://monroepublic.cyberschool.com/District/ (http://monroepublic.cyberschool.com/District/)

Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: Professor H on October 30, 2015, 08:23:57 AM
(http://www.usnews.com/dims4/USNEWS/4a44624/2147483647/resize/534x/format/png/quality/85/?url=%2Fcmsmedia%2F4a%2F3f%2F88560b0548db88d9561f0aca31ae%2F20151028edwas-a.tif)

and now teachers have to start prepping for a new test to teach to...

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/oct/27/students-struggle-tougher-state-test-sets-baseline/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/oct/27/students-struggle-tougher-state-test-sets-baseline/)
Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: blue2 on October 30, 2015, 09:41:39 AM
Go back to teaching and stop all the nonsense.
Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: Professor H on November 02, 2015, 10:34:39 PM
(http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/gmc13638820151030032800.jpg)
Title: Re: Brain dead school system?
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 02, 2015, 10:38:48 PM
([url]http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/gmc13638820151030032800.jpg[/url])


What the Muslim kid took to school....