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Title: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on February 03, 2012, 08:57:54 AM
We went to Red Lobster for my mother's birthday Wednesday and we took Dixie home and noticed the roadway was more lighted and a guard rail was installed on the curve.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 03, 2012, 09:18:08 AM
Are you talking the curve at Carter Lumber ??? ??? ???

Haven't been that way in several weeks...
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on February 03, 2012, 09:23:23 AM
Are you talking the curve at Carter Lumber ??? ??? ???

Haven't been that way in several weeks...
Yep. after I posted, I realized I should have added across from Carter Lumber. Curb side heading into Monroe.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monique on February 03, 2012, 09:32:19 AM
Seems like I heard or read that the (stone? cement?) company there on the curve has been plowed into many times by cars and trucks missing the curve. Must be to prevent that from happening again.

When I was a kid, I was in the car with one of my sisters on a snowy night. I think she'd picked me up from Dixie Skateland and we were headed home when she missed that curve, but there was a barrier there then and that's what we hit. Thankfully no one was hurt, just a little fender damage. Boy, was she shaken up, though!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 03, 2012, 09:34:28 AM
Wasn't a pedestrian or biker hit and killed there a year or so ago...

the lighting may have to do with that incident.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: MM1 on February 03, 2012, 09:44:41 AM
Yep.   Someone still puts flowers on that spot.  It makes me very conscious of the curve every time. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Frenchfry on February 03, 2012, 12:15:33 PM
It wasn't that long ago when the council approved spending big bucks (around $20K ?) to have that guardrail installed on that curve...something about a vehicle damaged the facade of the Monroe Aluminum Products building.

A couple of strategically placed boulders would have been cheaper and more pleasing to the eye in my opinion.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on February 06, 2012, 05:41:02 PM
Noticed on N. Telegraph just after Telegraph & Monroe St. come together, There has been some clearing of trees on on west side of the bridge. It looks like  a service road for the natural gas and it loos like its going to be connected to the old bridge on to N. Stoney Ck.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Frenchfry on February 07, 2012, 02:12:13 PM
Yeah...three strategically placed vehicles along Nadeau Rd with signs in their windows stating "Do not disturb, traffic counting in progress"...or something similar.

One is sitting east of I-75, one is sitting west of I-75, and one is sitting right at the southbound get-off ramp of I-75

*UPDATE*
They were there at 8am and no idea how long they stayed but no sign of 'em around 2pm
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: family man on February 07, 2012, 02:46:52 PM
It wasn't that long ago when the council approved spending big bucks (around $20K ?) to have that guardrail installed on that curve...something about a vehicle damaged the facade of the Monroe Aluminum Products building.

A couple of strategically placed boulders would have been cheaper and more pleasing to the eye in my opinion.

Yep, that's where it is. First, someone ran into the corner of the building near the front door and just recently someone ran into the side of the building taking out a tree. It's not where anyone was hit, that's further south on Dixie. It wasn't too long after the guardrail was installed that someone took out a portion of it closer to their out building just north of the main building. It has been fixed just in the past few days.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monique on February 07, 2012, 04:54:30 PM
I've just noticed the new signage for the city. Very attractive, useful, and easy to read!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Frenchfry on February 07, 2012, 08:34:28 PM
Updated my prior post but figured I may as well contribute what else I noticed...

I noticed two natural gas crews digging man-sized but approx six feet deep holes at two locations in the area, one crew was just west of Telegraph on W. Hurd Rd. near the RR crossing and the other crew was east of I-75 on Nadeau Rd

I wondered if they were trying to find a leak...like maybe they discovered a pressure drop or something.

Over the years, Detroit has experienced lots of houses and buildings that just exploded because of gas leaks....and with the Washington story fresh in my mind....I'm reminded just how dangerous natural gas can be.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: family man on February 08, 2012, 07:50:52 AM
I've just noticed the new signage for the city. Very attractive, useful, and easy to read!

I saw one of those too, on southbound Dixie near Detroit Street. Pointed out the Battle Museum and a couple other places.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: naomi43 on February 08, 2012, 08:37:54 AM
Yesterday I saw on Telegraph going south just after 151 in Erie, some big trees were cut down.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 13, 2012, 08:11:41 PM
Yesterday I saw on Telegraph going south just after 151 in Erie, some big trees were cut down.

I checked that out on the way to Temperance this morning...

There are some huge trees they have cut on the Consumer's Energy ROW...

used to be they'd just take the top out of them but now they're taking them right down.

Too big for Ash trees too :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on February 25, 2012, 02:34:12 PM
Noticed that Staples in now open in their new store.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: lordfly on March 19, 2012, 10:26:31 PM
I noticed a yahoo driving around with a gigantic Confederate flag flying from their hickup truck.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Ronda on March 20, 2012, 01:40:00 PM
I wasn't driving, but today I saw a Monroe resident with the impressive ability to judge a person's character based on their ancestry and the kind of vehicle they drive.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: family man on March 20, 2012, 03:00:12 PM
I noticed a yahoo driving around with a gigantic Confederate flag flying from their hickup truck.

Must have been on their way to Walmart. LOL
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: naomi43 on March 20, 2012, 03:32:51 PM
I just came back from Temperance, noticed on Lewis Ave they are making a new park, and a little farther down a new cemetary.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Frenchfry on March 20, 2012, 04:44:28 PM
Saw another SWAT raid in the beach area.

It's still going on right now.

Right across from the one they raided about two weeks ago.

They love using those flash bangs.

The chatter on the online scanner mentioned "blitzkrieg"....could be related.

But that sort of stuff must not be newsworthy enough for the MEN to report.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: pam on March 20, 2012, 05:57:35 PM
Saw another SWAT raid in the beach area.

It's still going on right now.

Right across from the one they raided about two weeks ago.

They love using those flash bangs.

The chatter on the online scanner mentioned "blitzkrieg"....could be related.

But that sort of stuff must not be newsworthy enough for the MEN to report.

So that explains it! I wish the MEN would report on this...we had no idea what was going on! I was outside with my kids earlier and the bang was so loud my youngest daughter started crying and wanted to go in the house. We're back in Woodland Beach...
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Aunt Lisa on March 20, 2012, 06:08:08 PM
Saw another SWAT raid in the beach area.

It's still going on right now.

Right across from the one they raided about two weeks ago.

They love using those flash bangs.

The chatter on the online scanner mentioned "blitzkrieg"....could be related.

But that sort of stuff must not be newsworthy enough for the MEN to report.


 Hey FF, I seen them in the bank (PNC) about 5:25pm. Think it was the same guys? When they pulled out I thought they might be going to one instead because the back doors were open!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Frenchfry on March 20, 2012, 06:54:18 PM
Yep, they probably left about that time....maybe they were staging for another raid.

The three unmarked Ford Taurus vehicles left first followed by the combat-like vehicle with 5 military-like outfitted guys clutching onto each side headed toward Dixie.

The MCSD left last.

Not sure when the EMS vehicle left.

The raid was weird....the combat carrier parked sort of heading west but all the activity was at a house on the east side of the street...directly across from the one they raided two weeks ago...in fact just before they left, one SWAT member with his automatic gun at the ready started questioning a guy sitting on the steps of that prior raided house.

I thought at first that they made a mistake two weeks ago and finally came back with the correct address....which would explain why the MEN didn't report the action...but then I remembered they took a guy in cuffs....but they still could've made a mistake.

Didn't really consider whether it was a drug raid at the time.....I went through the possibilities such as fugitive arrest, a warrant arrest, reluctant home eviction, or maybe somebody threatening suicide.

But chances are we'll never know the details.

Lacking a genuine local news source is disheartening.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: tnweasel on March 20, 2012, 07:01:30 PM
we noticed lots of giant pink bunnies in yards as we went to Blue Streak for ice cream this afternoon :) .......and lots of beautiful daffodils in bloom..... and on Telegraph a guy driving a beautiful sort of lime green Camaro with a tag that read 'grnbee'......nice day to be out
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: lordfly on March 20, 2012, 07:58:00 PM
I wasn't driving, but today I saw a Monroe resident with the impressive ability to judge a person's character based on their ancestry and the kind of vehicle they drive.

I'd love to hear the reasonable defense of a three foot Confederate flag flowing off of the back of a pickup truck.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on March 20, 2012, 08:13:18 PM
Yep, they probably left about that time....maybe they were staging for another raid.

The three unmarked Ford Taurus vehicles left first followed by the combat-like vehicle with 5 military-like outfitted guys clutching onto each side headed toward Dixie.

The MCSD left last.

Not sure when the EMS vehicle left.

The raid was weird....the combat carrier parked sort of heading west but all the activity was at a house on the east side of the street...directly across from the one they raided two weeks ago...in fact just before they left, one SWAT member with his automatic gun at the ready started questioning a guy sitting on the steps of that prior raided house.

I thought at first that they made a mistake two weeks ago and finally came back with the correct address....which would explain why the MEN didn't report the action...but then I remembered they took a guy in cuffs....but they still could've made a mistake.

Didn't really consider whether it was a drug raid at the time.....I went through the possibilities such as fugitive arrest, a warrant arrest, reluctant home eviction, or maybe somebody threatening suicide.But chances are we'll never know the details.

Lacking a genuine local news source is disheartening.

Maybe they finally found Jimmy Hoffa :o :o :o
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Frenchfry on March 20, 2012, 08:15:30 PM
I'd love to hear the reasonable defense of a three foot Confederate flag flowing off of the back of a pickup truck.
Oh...I don't know...maybe to give the local country bumpkins something to talk about.

Let's call it a conversation starter.  :)

Yep, they proudly display 'em on the homes around here.

I sort of wondered if those flags offended people.

I would never do such a thing.

Maybe I'm being insensitive but I don't see the harm.

Sort of reminds me of those yellow tea bagger don't tread on me flags.

It's a free country...to each their own.

Silly thing to fight about.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: tnweasel on April 19, 2012, 10:50:09 AM
have been seeing motorcyclists in Monroe without helmets for several days now...... be safe and take extra care.....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on April 19, 2012, 10:55:37 AM
have been seeing motorcyclists in Monroe without helmets for several days now...... be safe and take extra care.....

I saw one guy Friday afternoon!!!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on April 19, 2012, 01:12:21 PM
I saw something "different" literally driving around out here last week...

and if wasn't a fluke because my wife saw it again today...

someone is using a full sized Cadillac to deliver pizza...

The thing is a tank...  the front end would be at your house by the time the back end was leaving the pizza shop...   I guess the pizza would be hot for sure that way...

but it has to cost a fortune for gas 8* 8* 8*
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on May 08, 2012, 08:38:51 AM
I can't believe how much corn is already up and growing :) :) :)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: marilyn.monroe on May 08, 2012, 08:42:35 AM
Classic. You could convert and run on biofuel or natural gas lol.
I thought Monroe had one of them there fancy Google cars :P
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: eriemermaid on May 08, 2012, 12:36:01 PM
I seen two motorcyclists this morning without helmets on . . did the law change while I was away?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Skittelroo on May 08, 2012, 02:22:54 PM
I seen two motorcyclists this morning without helmets on . . did the law change while I was away?

It did, I believe mid-April.   Must be 21 yrs old and carry extra insurance, and a few other requirements that I can't remember.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on May 22, 2012, 10:31:49 AM
I noticed that Monroe Package Corp on Huber Dr. is no longer.
I took a picture of the water tower in case it is torn down.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Baby Hitler on May 23, 2012, 12:29:26 PM
I noticed that Monroe Package Corp on Huber Dr. is no longer.
I took a picture of the water tower in case it is torn down.
The name of the company was Modern Packaging. I used to service their network about 10 to 15 years ago.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on May 23, 2012, 02:52:36 PM
My Bad... I was writing about the place and thinking about another. A lot on my mind lately.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on May 24, 2012, 03:19:22 PM
Not new but I noticed the WWI monument in Soldiers & Sailors park got cleaned off and repainted. It really stands out now. I hope that its kept up.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on May 24, 2012, 07:58:28 PM
Not new but I noticed the WWI monument in Soldiers & Sailors park got cleaned off and repainted. It really stands out now. I hope that its kept up.

And I see there's a lot of new concrete there for the new monument you're working on 8) 8) 8)

When will it be ready?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on May 24, 2012, 08:08:20 PM
And I see there's a lot of new concrete there for the new monument you're working on 8) 8) 8)

When will it be ready?
From what I know of the Civil War monument, just a little touch up and the placement of the miniture tombstones that was on display last year.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on May 28, 2012, 11:03:51 AM
Not new but I noticed the WWI monument in Soldiers & Sailors park got cleaned off and repainted. It really stands out now. I hope that its kept up.


I got several seconds of the WW1 monument in my "Cannon Shot" video...

the cannon was set up near there...

Cannon Shot.wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDBlQMLeBO8&feature=youtu.be#ws)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Baby Hitler on May 28, 2012, 11:54:33 AM
My Bad... I was writing about the place and thinking about another. A lot on my mind lately.
No problem, just wanted to let you know. You being our main resident historian, I know how important it is to keep your facts straight. ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on May 28, 2012, 12:06:02 PM
No problem, just wanted to let you know. You being our main resident historian, I know how important it is to keep your facts straight. ;)
lol Thanks but honestly... I don't consider myself a historian. And according to some local "historians"... I'm not considered an historian either.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on May 29, 2012, 08:55:20 AM
lol Thanks but honestly... I don't consider myself a historian. And according to some local "historians"... I'm not considered an historian either.

History has shown there are always room for more ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 06, 2012, 07:03:29 AM
A new business going in at Front and Monroe...  something with a Z to start the name...  another coffeehouse maybe?

and in the old Walmart store a new "Ollie's Bargain Outlet"...   saw the sign yesterday and it says opening at the end of June...   they have a sign up for "help wanted" and I did find their website and here's some more info on the employment:

https://www.olliesbargainoutlet.com/jobs/jobDetail.aspx?OpportunityID=750&StoreID=155&postalcode=&radius=10000&type=0&order=&page= (https://www.olliesbargainoutlet.com/jobs/jobDetail.aspx?OpportunityID=750&StoreID=155&postalcode=&radius=10000&type=0&order=&page=)

I guess it's worth posting this under the Businesses category too ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on July 08, 2012, 12:46:07 AM
I saw a sign painted on a side of a building and wondered when the city changed the ordiance?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on July 13, 2012, 06:14:26 PM
They're shooting a movie scene in front of Gus' Barber Shop right now.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 23, 2012, 11:34:36 AM
As we were heading south on Telegraph at Rauch Road this morning I saw the MCRC crews starting to do the "chip 'n seal" job on Rauch road... 

It may not be a perfect road when it's done but it will sure have to be a major improvement 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on July 23, 2012, 01:32:59 PM
They did "fix" the gravel wash outs on Exeter Rd.    noticed it on my way to visit the Red Horse Inn.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: eriemermaid on July 23, 2012, 02:26:17 PM
I am embarrassed to have out of towners come to visit me when they have to use I-75.  Whoever is in charge of maintaining this part of 75 should be accountable.  There is a bazillion tire parts all over the sides of the road. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on July 26, 2012, 07:54:58 AM
Political signs are starting to clutter most corners - where they probably don't even have permission to post them...   
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 15, 2012, 07:22:05 AM
As we were heading south on Telegraph at Rauch Road this morning I saw the MCRC crews starting to do the "chip 'n seal" job on Rauch road... 

It may not be a perfect road when it's done but it will sure have to be a major improvement 8) 8) 8)

We took a detour down Rauch Rd. Monday on our way to Toledo to see how the MCRC's resurfacing project was holding up.  Very surprised to see that 3 weeks after they started all I see they've done is add a couple of feet of asphalt to either side of the road.  They have cleaned some of the ditches too but it seems like they may have done that before they started the paving back on July 23rd :-\ :-\ :-\

No wonder it takes so long to fix the roads in Monroe County >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Crox77 on August 15, 2012, 10:27:06 PM
We took a detour down Rauch Rd. Monday on our way to Toledo to see how the MCRC's resurfacing project was holding up.  Very surprised to see that 3 weeks after they started all I see they've done is add a couple of feet of asphalt to either side of the road.  They have cleaned some of the ditches too but it seems like they may have done that before they started the paving back on July 23rd :-\ :-\ :-\

No wonder it takes so long to fix the roads in Monroe County >:( >:( >:(
BRD-  I literally watched two weeks back the Monroe County Road Commission mow 1.1 miles in 7 hours.  I was floored.  There would be trucks stopping all day long, talking and drinking cold water/soda.  Smoking cigarettes and just doing nothing.  It is theft of PAID hours.  No use in trying to change it, they are all corrupt. 
Thank you for your update.  Tax money hard at work.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on August 15, 2012, 10:50:42 PM
We took a detour down Rauch Rd. Monday on our way to Toledo to see how the MCRC's resurfacing project was holding up.  Very surprised to see that 3 weeks after they started all I see they've done is add a couple of feet of asphalt to either side of the road.  They have cleaned some of the ditches too but it seems like they may have done that before they started the paving back on July 23rd :-\ :-\ :-\

No wonder it takes so long to fix the roads in Monroe County >:( >:( >:(

Why does it always take a month or longer to replace a bridge. Contractors can dig a basement, pour footers and build block walls (or pour cement ones) in less than a week. I guess contractor's business is dependant on their work, road commission isn't held accountable by anyone.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on September 21, 2012, 03:06:36 PM
Rauch Rd I think is done with the tar and stone -

They are doing the same to East Dunbar from Raisinville to Telegraph...  Not impressed with the section I drove on yesterday as it was just as bumpy as the road it replaced but 3" higher.   Hopefully they weren't finished with it.

They are also doing the Noble entrance to the Manor off of Telegraph - sticking with Cement I see???   Must have someone from the cement mafia on this one - as it never lasts but they keep on trying.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: MarissaMGB on November 15, 2012, 04:57:12 AM
Noticed alot of stores that have closed lately, Fashion bug, Blockbuster video, Antique mall on telegraph rd, that mexican take out place by Kroger,,,,,Curves for women...Jeff tuttles BBq place (thats been gone a while) ... there was another but cant remember now.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on March 15, 2013, 07:58:07 PM
I see MDOT is installing more electronic signboards on I-75...  northbound lane about a mile south of the South Rockwood exit and in the southbound lanes just about opposite the one that's been in the northbound lanes in Frenchtown Township.  I think maybe they're moving the cameras up to where this new one is...  there's some kind of a strange looking globe hanging down on a pole right behind it...  it might be a drone launch pad :o :o :o
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on March 15, 2013, 08:01:06 PM
BRD......stop saying that stuff about the drones, it is going to make me wrap another layer of tin on my hat.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on March 15, 2013, 08:13:23 PM
BRD......stop saying that stuff about the drones, it is going to make me wrap another layer of tin on my hat.

I've actually been pricing them for taking some videos and photos for my work...  the problem is the law is very, very vague on if they can be used or not...  but I can sure see us having some fun with one ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 15, 2013, 08:18:30 PM
I've actually been pricing them for taking some videos and photos for my work...  the problem is the law is very, very vague on if they can be used or not...  but I can sure see us having some fun with one ;) ;) ;)

I'm sure the resolution is good enough to count your crainial hairs or lack of..... :P
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on March 15, 2013, 08:26:11 PM
...  but I can sure see us having some fun with one ;) ;) ;)

No doubt!   ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on March 16, 2013, 11:21:32 AM
I am thinking a drone would be a blast to have.....

Wonder how hard it would be to arm it.....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: MM1 on March 16, 2013, 11:48:36 AM
I see the preparation in motion for the beautiful new (sarcasm) Hometown Pharmacy.

I see the beautiful old National Guard Armory building being readied to be scraped into memory.


I seriously think that new pharmacy they built 3 miles up the road near Stewart is an eyesore and now we'll have 2 withing a couple of miles of each other!!!  ugh. 


The beautiful, 85 yr old iconic building will soon be gone.  So sad.  I kept hopeing someone would be able to create something new out of it like Jack's Bicycles did with the old building downtown. 

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 16, 2013, 12:41:49 PM
More potholes.....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on March 16, 2013, 12:44:44 PM
I was up near the intersection of 96 and 275 earlier this week....what a mess.  Cars pulled over changing flats from hitting those potholes head on.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 16, 2013, 12:50:16 PM
I was up near the intersection of 96 and 275 earlier this week....what a mess.  Cars pulled over changing flats from hitting those potholes head on.

Part of that is the new generation of low aspect ratio tires that are coming on cars these days.  No sidewalls and large rims.  No sidewalls mean not much impact flex so they blow out.  They look cool but in reality on Monroe County roads, not much good.

I'll stick with conventional tires (70-78) series sidewalls.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on March 16, 2013, 12:58:27 PM
Yup, I'm aware of that reality.

A few of the cars pulled over were not the low profile tires though.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 16, 2013, 01:04:37 PM
Yup, I'm aware of that reality.

A few of the cars pulled over were not the low profile tires though.

...and most drivers never check tire pressure either because radials don't appear to be low on air when they actually are, one reason the NHTSA mandated in tire inflation sensors on newer cars.

Soft (underinflated) tires not only rob fuel mileage because of internal flexing, bit they can't absorb road shock (from potholes) and fail.

The last thing deivers do is check pressires (if they ever do).  The only ones checking tires are cats and dogs that pee on them............. :P
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on March 16, 2013, 01:10:19 PM
Yup....the pressure sensors have turned out to be a neat technology....and preventative one for me since my car has the larger wheels with low profile tires.  You're right, it is hard to tell if they are low by looking at them nowadays. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 16, 2013, 01:18:42 PM
Class 6-8 Heavy duty trucks are getting them too.  Nice thing is because they have on board air systems (for the brakes and suspensions) is that the air is there, all the time.  The newest truck systems feed an airline with a check valve through the wet hub, out to fill lines to each of the dual wheels.  the preset check valves maintains tire pressure at as preset level (usually 105 PSI).  All our new tractors and trailer are equipped with them and the front wheels/tires have the valve stem sensors like a car has with an in dash warming light.  Low tire pressure on a big truck is instant disaster when loaded.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on March 16, 2013, 02:29:04 PM
Plank Road took out 3 18" wheels and 5 tires on a Lease Car I had a few years ago.

It had 18" tires on it...  not sure how many we would have went through with the 19" wheels we could have got.

The Sensor did no good.  They were fully inflated - no way that tire could survive that road.

Took some of my Japanese friends down the road with an instrumented car.  Blew their mind the loads / accelerations they were seeing.

Love what Frenchtown is doing with Telegraph.  Wonder how many weeks after the barrels go up that they will get serious and start working on it.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 16, 2013, 05:03:52 PM
Plank Road took out 3 18" wheels and 5 tires on a Lease Car I had a few years ago.

It had 18" tires on it...  not sure how many we would have went through with the 19" wheels we could have got.

The Sensor did no good.  They were fully inflated - no way that tire could survive that road.

Took some of my Japanese friends down the road with an instrumented car.  Blew their mind the loads / accelerations they were seeing.

Love what Frenchtown is doing with Telegraph.  Wonder how many weeks after the barrels go up that they will get serious and start working on it.

If you approach the posted speed limit on Plank, you deserve to blow tires, bend rims and pop ball joints.  I'd drive in peoples front yards but it's too muddy. ;D

Those aren't barrels, those a Snider eggs.  They hatch every spring.  They will start when it warms up.  The Snider eggs 'give' the appearance of working......  Kind of reminds me of the government in general.

I'm suprised that the 'instrumented car' didn't have it's instruments fall on the floor.  Must have been bolted down securely.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on March 16, 2013, 07:48:52 PM
Less load inputs at 60 then 45.....  hear me now and believe me later....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 16, 2013, 09:55:19 PM
I believe you.  The suspension at 60 can't rebound quick enough to utilize full travel, whereas at 45 (depending on rebound and compression rates in shock valving as well as the spring rates themselves), the suspension has a chance to regain more travel so the load input is more because the movement of the suspension components is more...and it wears faster.

At 60, the vehicle squats down because the suspension remains partially to fully compressed and the load input is directly transmitted to the frame and major assemblies.

Thats why it's advantageous to drive 'like you stole it' on roads likie Plank and flip me off because I'm going slowly.................... ;D

Of course when you pop your spot welds and the suspension components fatigue and fail, just get another vehicle.

See, I might be a dumb republican but I'm good in physics and geometry.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on March 17, 2013, 01:47:15 PM
I believe you.  The suspension at 60 can't rebound quick enough to utilize full travel, whereas at 45 (depending on rebound and compression rates in shock valving as well as the spring rates themselves), the suspension has a chance to regain more travel so the load input is more because the movement of the suspension components is more...and it wears faster.

At 60, the vehicle squats down because the suspension remains partially to fully compressed and the load input is directly transmitted to the frame and major assemblies.

Thats why it's advantageous to drive 'like you stole it' on roads likie Plank and flip me off because I'm going slowly.................... ;D

Of course when you pop your spot welds and the suspension components fatigue and fail, just get another vehicle.

See, I might be a dumb republican but I'm good in physics and geometry.

I never flip anyone off on Plank.

I just wait for a spot that is still wide enough for two cars and dump it in.

I won't take a car I own down Plank - at least not very often.

Lease cars I drive em like I stole em, they only have to last a year or less so metal fatigue shouldn't be an issue, so if you see someone pass you and take it up to 70 that might be me, so just wave and be polite.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 17, 2013, 05:14:09 PM
I'm always polite, especially when I'm carrying.  I don't mean burgers in a bag either. ;D

If I can't get 150K out of a car, it's defective.  Of course I change the shocks, or struts and brakes every year whether they leak or not and all my ball joints can be greased.

Around this farm, maintenance is more important than anything...except eating. ;D

How many people you know have a 2004 Caddy with 41K on it that never sees snow or a 1997 Ford F350 with 89K that never sees snow either......me.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on March 17, 2013, 07:28:07 PM
I have a 1992 F150 with 60K that hasn't seen snow....

My 06 LS has 29K....  it has seen snow but gets washed when it happens.

Ball joints that can be greased?  Think all of those got cost reduced out around 1990....  at least on light duty.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 18, 2013, 10:17:16 AM
Absolutely can be greased.  In fact, after the OEM suspension components have run their course (which isn't all that long because they are built to fail), I replace everything with greaseable components and if the component can't be sourced with Alemite fittings, I machine the component to accept Alemite fittings and be able to take grease.

Case in point, all the fulcrum points on my F350.  I modified all the spring pivots, replacing the expanded synthetic rubber grommets with linear roller bearings and cross drilled pins with alemite fittings to accept grease and I use a synthetic based grease manufactured by Lubrication Engineers that costs around a grand per 160 pound drum, not the clay based crap the local auto parts store sells.

I believe I have around 20 greasing points on just the front end, not counting all the universals and spring pivots out back.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on March 18, 2013, 04:54:38 PM
Absolutely can be greased.  In fact, after the OEM suspension components have run their course (which isn't all that long because they are built to fail), I replace everything with greaseable components and if the component can't be sourced with Alemite fittings, I machine the component to accept Alemite fittings and be able to take grease.

Case in point, all the fulcrum points on my F350.  I modified all the spring pivots, replacing the expanded synthetic rubber grommets with linear roller bearings and cross drilled pins with alemite fittings to accept grease and I use a synthetic based grease manufactured by Lubrication Engineers that costs around a grand per 160 pound drum, not the clay based crap the local auto parts store sells.

I believe I have around 20 greasing points on just the front end, not counting all the universals and spring pivots out back.

Okay.  That sounds very familiar.

Did the same thing on my F150 after the "lubed for life" parts failed at a tragically young age.

I was jealous thinking you found a way to get a factory suspension with a Zerk fitting....

It never ceases to amaze me that with a zerk fitting properly lubricated things like ball joints, U joints, etc have an infinite life span, yet some a-hole colleague of mine took then out 30 years ago...  and came up with the term "lubricated for life."  Unfortunately this "life" of the "lubricated" component was much shorter then the part it replaced.

Oh well - they make money selling replacement parts.  All part of the game.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on March 23, 2013, 11:18:31 PM
Does the right hand know what the left hand is doing?

At Telegraph and Mall road not too long ago they removed a lane going West on Mall Rd from Telegraph, then they put in these goofy sidewalks (see picture below) that went no where, on each of the four corners. This probably cost a ton of money, and now they are ripping them all out. The state has no money to fix roads because they waste whatever funds they have doing ignorant things like this.

I guess you were supposed to walk down Telegraph Rd. get on one of these sidewalks and then go around the corner and get back on Mall Rd. to walk around this area. How asinine can these people be. When they are done with Telegraph they will probably replace them just as they were.

(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab249/ka8ebi/Sidewalkstonowhere.jpg)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on March 24, 2013, 09:39:48 AM
I laugh at those every time I turn in there Tiny...

you're exactly right that one hand has no idea what is going to happen 2 years in the future...  the state has been talking about widening that stretch of road for at least 10 years....   my guess is it's a mismatch of Township, County, State and maybe even Federal (it is US 24) laws...  and the people letting out the contracts don't care...  it's keeping their industry working.

Another one that bugged me a couple of years ago...  I'm sure the cost would be 100 times more than this was...  Just into Wayne county where Southbound M85 intersected I-75...  they rebuilt the overpass one year and then a year later tore half of the new overpass down so they could extend it and do away with the merge to the right ramp that had been there for years.  If they would have waited a few months they could have saved the Michigan taxpayers enough money to have  repaved the road I live on!!! 

Now these are the types of savings government could recognize and it wouldn't even have to be a partisan battle to pocket the savings :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monique on March 24, 2013, 11:34:00 AM
Maybe the sidewalks were for the panhandlers that are usually stationed there.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on March 24, 2013, 12:00:31 PM
Maybe the sidewalks were for the panhandlers that are usually stationed there.

I'll bet you're right on that one ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: tnweasel on April 28, 2013, 07:40:47 AM
went shopping yesterday and saw close to 40 motorcycles exiting the freeway at 275....couple of guys were off their bikes holding traffic while the motorcycles exited in a group.....down the road another two guys were off their motorcycles holding traffic while the Iron Coffins entered the bar and grill on the left.....not trying to start anything but is that legal????....and really while it's on my mind....I have a 27 year old son and husband who will be riding this summer .....so please, take the time to look twice...some of these guys don't wear helmets anymore...though I have to say most of the Iron Coffins were yesterday.....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on April 28, 2013, 07:47:36 AM
went shopping yesterday and saw close to 40 motorcycles exiting the freeway at 275....couple of guys were off their bikes holding traffic while the motorcycles exited in a group.....down the road another two guys were off their motorcycles holding traffic while the Iron Coffins entered the bar and grill on the left.....not trying to start anything but is that legal????....and really while it's on my mind....I have a 27 year old son and husband who will be riding this summer .....so please, take the time to look twice...some of these guys don't wear helmets anymore...though I have to say most of the Iron Coffins were yesterday.....

We didn't see any big groups of riders yesterday but sure did see them in small groups...  everywhere...  so, yes, slow down a little... take an extra look left and right when you're turning...

I think often times people see a bike approaching and because they're so much smaller than a car and they lose the 'visual perspective' of how fast they're closing with you...  add in talking on the phone or texting or checking the weather on your phone or programming the gps plus being late for the doctor's appointment and you have all the potential for a bad situation!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on April 28, 2013, 08:03:49 AM
I haven't been down to Ottawa Lake lately but do want to get down there and see how the construction on the new 'roundabout' is doing...

The town we grew up in had a huge one but they just called it "The Circle"...

and one of the places we visit in Florida...

St. Armand's Circle has an especially small one... you have to be on your toes getting around that one...  and there are always plenty of 'distractions' (to say the very least) so I tend to avoid the circle until I've had several doses of distraction for the day and then it gets a little easier to stay focused...

Here's a map...   

just for reference there's a great family beach if you go south from here and if you go to North Lido beach ...  lets just say, probably NOT a family setting ;) ;) ;)

(http://www.simplysiestakey.com/images/StArmandsKeyMap.gif)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: nails on April 28, 2013, 10:52:56 AM
At this point, Exit 5 construction seems to be limited to just repairing and replacing the the exit/entrance ramps. They haven't gotten into the meat of the round-a-bout yet.

I may be wrong, but I think they may be building an answer to a question that wasn't asked.  I used that intersection on a regular basis and I never thought of it as a major traffic problem.  Yes they may have had a short line of vehicles waiting for a stop sign occasionally, but not any worse than most other intersections.

The thought of all the semi trucks, and trucks with boats and camping trailers, getting off and realizing it isn't a typical exit seems like much more of a potential traffic accident problem area. There are going to be a lot of cars darting in and out and brakes being slammed on. Should be an entertaining spot for a set of bleachers.

I've used round-a-bouts before, and they can be efficient if used correctly, but I don't believe that most drivers have become that familiar enough with them at this time.

But hey, maybe people are better drivers than I'm giving them credit for.

Another point . . . .

With all the bad roads that we have in Michigan, is it really prudent to spend many millions of tax dollars converting freeway intersections into round-a-bouts instead of fixing pothole infested roads that are destroying our personal vehicles. Seems like we have many more important ways of spending Highway Funds. I know I would much rather occasionally sit at a stop sign for 1-2 minutes than drive down a road like Samaria Road even once.





Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Skittelroo on April 28, 2013, 11:10:08 AM
Nails, I agree!   Personally, I don't like roundabouts, and I do see problems for "long" vehicles.  Seems to me most projects don't take into consideration what the effect will be down-the-road.   
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Skittelroo on April 28, 2013, 11:16:19 AM
We didn't see any big groups of riders yesterday but sure did see them in small groups...  everywhere...  so, yes, slow down a little... take an extra look left and right when you're turning...

I think often times people see a bike approaching and because they're so much smaller than a car and they lose the 'visual perspective' of how fast they're closing with you...  add in talking on the phone or texting or checking the weather on your phone or programming the gps plus being late for the doctor's appointment and you have all the potential for a bad situation!

Hmmm.... this made me realize something.  I have NEVER seen a person on a bike texting or on a cell phone!   Smarter than your average driver, if that is true. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on April 28, 2013, 12:10:01 PM
Prof mentioned it on another thread, but 275 northbound has one hell of a seam between the passing and middle lanes is decaying rapidly and may end up turning into a bumpy trench here real soon.

Did see what looks to be a few new businesses going up and around Milan this past week.  One if I remember correctly was on the Monroe County side.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Flanders on April 28, 2013, 01:13:46 PM
went shopping yesterday and saw close to 40 motorcycles exiting the freeway at 275....couple of guys were off their bikes holding traffic while the motorcycles exited in a group.....down the road another two guys were off their motorcycles holding traffic while the Iron Coffins entered the bar and grill on the left.....not trying to start anything but is that legal????....and really while it's on my mind....I have a 27 year old son and husband who will be riding this summer .....so please, take the time to look twice...some of these guys don't wear helmets anymore...though I have to say most of the Iron Coffins were yesterday.....

Unless they have a police escort, it is absolutely ILLEGAL for these douche bags to stop traffic.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: NewDawn on April 28, 2013, 03:19:28 PM
went shopping yesterday and saw close to 40 motorcycles exiting the freeway at 275....couple of guys were off their bikes holding traffic while the motorcycles exited in a group.....down the road another two guys were off their motorcycles holding traffic while the Iron Coffins entered the bar and grill on the left.....not trying to start anything but is that legal????....and really while it's on my mind....I have a 27 year old son and husband who will be riding this summer .....so please, take the time to look twice...some of these guys don't wear helmets anymore...though I have to say most of the Iron Coffins were yesterday.....


It was the "Crazy Sue" memorial run. They all met downtown at a bar at Front/Macomb Street. It was more like 300 + bikes. I was stuck behind them on Front.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: NewDawn on April 28, 2013, 03:22:44 PM
Noticed a lot of new potholes in the city of Monroe.  :(

Noticed a lot of old potholes that have gotten bigger too.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: tnweasel on April 28, 2013, 04:02:14 PM

It was the "Crazy Sue" memorial run. They all met downtown at a bar at Front/Macomb Street. It was more like 300 + bikes. I was stuck behind them on Front.

we were lucky ....we saw them around 1pm and there were only forty or fifty over on 24 toward Flat Rock.....but I did see in today's paper about the 'ride/run' organized by the Iron Coffins....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on January 23, 2014, 09:57:29 AM
A couple of thing's.

Looks like some drive-thru (probably and ATM) in the parking lot off Telegraph by the old Block Buster.

I went to the Social Security office this morning. I haven't been there in a couple of months. I noticed they installed 5 posts in front of the entrance.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 23, 2014, 10:03:18 AM
A couple of thing's.

Looks like some drive-thru (probably and ATM) in the parking lot off Telegraph by the old Block Buster.

I went to the Social Security office this morning. I haven't been there in a couple of months. I noticed they installed 5 posts in front of the entrance.

Probably to keep people in wheelchairs out :( :( :(
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Frenchfry on January 23, 2014, 10:04:20 PM
Noticed the lights on top of the MCSD cars are gone.
Perhaps it's a fuel saving measure.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on January 23, 2014, 10:19:25 PM
The new LED lighting provides more "stealth"...
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 24, 2014, 08:44:58 AM
I've noticed a new MCSD pickup...   several times in our neighborhood.

They're either keeping an eye on someone special or one of the deputies has a girlfriend out here!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on January 24, 2014, 10:21:07 AM
I've noticed a new MCSD pickup...   several times in our neighborhood.

They're either keeping an eye on someone special or one of the deputies has a girlfriend out here!
Or you've discovered that a deputy lives nearby...
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 24, 2014, 10:37:35 AM
Or you've discovered that a deputy lives nearby...

I hope so...

'cause if not then he's (I'm only assuming it's a he...   haven't really seen the driver close enough to tell) either doing an excellent job on the drive by stakeout or he's making way too many trips home!!!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on January 24, 2014, 09:29:24 PM
Maybe he is moving Luke's stash around to another old barn.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 24, 2014, 09:32:37 PM
Maybe he is moving Luke's stash around to another old barn.

 ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on January 24, 2014, 09:46:31 PM
I have a State Boy that lives across the street.

Good to know there is extra fire power in the neighborhood.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 24, 2014, 10:09:53 PM
I have a State Boy that lives across the street.

Good to know there is extra fire power in the neighborhood.

...or extra graft...,... ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 24, 2014, 10:11:11 PM
The 'new' things I notice are the gargantuan potholes that are appearing everywhere.....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: carguy on January 24, 2014, 10:37:05 PM
They finally started working on the old Blockbuster building. They are putting in a Biggby Coffee and Pizza Hut in there.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 24, 2014, 10:44:50 PM
Ugh....Pizza Gut.............. :(

Another tasteless emporiumn of chloresterol laden calories....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on January 24, 2014, 11:14:45 PM
A Pizza Hut......2 or them inside of 3 blocks of each other?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on January 25, 2014, 04:30:44 AM
So is that trading one empty building for another empty building?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on January 25, 2014, 02:15:32 PM
Pizza hut must not have owned the property they are currently located? 

 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on January 25, 2014, 02:54:12 PM
I have my doubts that it would be a Pizza Hut. Their franchises probably have some conditions that the building should look like a Pizza Hut. Kind of like the old one. I do know of one in Grayling that is in a strip mall with just the logo on the outside though. It just seems like they wouldn't make that move from one of their signature buildings unless maybe it's temporary until they rebuild the existing one.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 25, 2014, 02:59:01 PM
I have my doubts that it would be a Pizza Hut. Their franchises probably have some conditions that the building should look like a Pizza Hut. Kind of like the old one. I do know of one in Grayling that is in a strip mall with just the logo on the outside though. It just seems like they wouldn't make that move from one of their signature buildings unless maybe it's temporary until they rebuild the existing one.

I've heard some rumors that Pizza Hut was pretty fed up with the franchise operator here in Monroe so maybe this has something to do with those rumors :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 25, 2014, 03:04:12 PM
Pizza hut must not have owned the property they are currently located? 

 

It's not always easy to tell.  Many large companies frequently don't even own any or their properties...   Kroger leases everything.  They make their investment inside the stores. 

Meijer stores are all owned by a large holding company and it doesn't indicate Meijer in the name.

In the case of the this PH it shows Castle Hill Holdings as the business owner and Cnl, Apf Partners, Lp as the property owner.  Two distinctly different names and nothing that even sounds like Pizza Hut in there...  but it is also very interesting that both tax bills go to the same PO Box in Orlando FL!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on January 25, 2014, 03:07:37 PM
That building has been there a long time. Maybe it was a 30 year land lease and it's over now.

Mav
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 25, 2014, 03:11:27 PM
That building has been there a long time. Maybe it was a 30 year land lease and it's over now.

Mav

One of the tax bills does state that the building is on leased land!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 25, 2014, 03:30:30 PM
One thing the 'new' location has (no matter who will be running it) is much better visibility.  They just seemed to be kind of hidden in behind Taco Bell where they've been.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monique on January 25, 2014, 03:35:22 PM
I've heard some rumors that Pizza Hut was pretty fed up with the franchise operator here in Monroe so maybe this has something to do with those rumors :-\ :-\ :-\
It's disgusting. Haven't been in there in years. My kids get gift certificates to PH from school for achievements, but we never use them. I just take them to do something else instead.

I've seen many PH franchises in gas stations and rest areas that don't have the signature roof line. I don't think they necessarily have to hold to that anymore. Desperation for customers probably outweighs aesthetics at this point.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on January 25, 2014, 03:36:49 PM
I have my doubts that it would be a Pizza Hut. Their franchises probably have some conditions that the building should look like a Pizza Hut. Kind of like the old one.

I thought the same until my last trip to Europe.  I came up on a little village about the size of Dundee along the border of Switzerland and Germany in the Bavarian Alps and happened to look at a vintage looking store front with the Pizza Hut sign on it.  It was so disappointing....the town was about as charming as I had ever seen until I saw that store front.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 25, 2014, 03:41:09 PM
It's disgusting. Haven't been in there in years. My kids get gift certificates to PH from school for achievements, but we never use them. I just take them to do something else instead.

I've seen many PH franchises in gas stations and rest areas that don't have the signature roof line. I don't think they necessarily have to hold to that anymore. Desperation for customers probably outweighs aesthetics at this point.

Our kids would get those too...  something for reading achievement isn't it? 

I haven't been in the one in Monroe for at least 10 years. 

We do hit one in Florida that seems like it is what I remember 'they used to be'!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 25, 2014, 03:43:52 PM
It's disgusting. Haven't been in there in years. My kids get gift certificates to PH from school for achievements, but we never use them. I just take them to do something else instead.

I've seen many PH franchises in gas stations and rest areas that don't have the signature roof line. I don't think they necessarily have to hold to that anymore. Desperation for customers probably outweighs aesthetics at this point.

Not all that particular about beaneries but PH is at the bottom of my list, Subway is next above PH.

I'd like to see Monroe get an upscale beanery like PF Chang's but that probably will never happen.  I guess mkarketing people look at Monroe as a greasy spoon, second rate town.

Heck, I'd even settle for an IHop or a Waffle House..  While not upscale, most have pretty good food at reasonable prices and fast service.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 25, 2014, 03:47:05 PM
If, you wander over to Adrian, be sure to try the Steak and Shake ocross from the mall (or whats left of it)... Nice menu, cheap and good and fast.  Very popular, always packed.  Sort of a Waffle House with a bigger menu.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monique on January 25, 2014, 03:48:58 PM
Our kids would get those too...  something for reading achievement isn't it? 

I haven't been in the one in Monroe for at least 10 years. 

We do hit one in Florida that seems like it is what I remember 'they used to be'!
I used to love their deep dish pizzas, and even their buffet back in the day. Handsome started his working career at one, and he used to love their food, too. Of all the pizza places in Monroe, PH would be the dead last one I'd patronize. Not sure how they stay in business, but hey--that's Monroe for ya! lol
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 25, 2014, 03:57:19 PM
The PH in Lambertville moved out of their 'traditional' styled building and into a new store right out in front of the Kroger store on Sterns road...   much better visibility!

They're also a 'Wingstreet' location...

I guess if you can't compete on your pizza you add wings...

I wonder if they have 'Hooter's style' waitresses ??? ??? ???

http://zippizzapages.com/wingstreet-pizza-hut-lambertville-mi-48144-7857.html (http://zippizzapages.com/wingstreet-pizza-hut-lambertville-mi-48144-7857.html)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 25, 2014, 04:04:23 PM
Last Hooters I was too, Bay City, the food sucked but the views were good and the bill afterward chocked me.

My favorite was 'Legs and Eggs' on Alexis.  Cheap food and good views.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monique on January 25, 2014, 04:08:03 PM
I wonder if they have 'Hooter's style' waitresses ??? ??? ???


Like this?

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_t9pl9Dh5gGQ/S3EfuV3oYWI/AAAAAAAAQ10/15YVenl0am0/s400/Betty-HootersGirl.jpg)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 25, 2014, 04:09:23 PM
Last Hooters I was too, Bay City, the food sucked but the views were good and the bill afterward chocked me.

My favorite was 'Legs and Eggs' on Alexis.  Cheap food and good views.

You were charged for the view :P :P :P

That' the one that's right on the Saginaw River isn't it ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 25, 2014, 04:10:43 PM
Like this?

([url]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_t9pl9Dh5gGQ/S3EfuV3oYWI/AAAAAAAAQ10/15YVenl0am0/s400/Betty-HootersGirl.jpg[/url])


That's pretty much what I was thinkin' ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 25, 2014, 04:17:39 PM
You were charged for the view :P :P :P

That' the one that's right on the Saginaw River isn't it ??? ??? ???

Sure is.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on January 25, 2014, 06:06:45 PM
I've always found it interesting in talking to Hooter's girls and strippers that most every one is working their way through college.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 25, 2014, 07:38:08 PM
Sure is.

I've spent a lot of time right there on that stretch of the river...  but way before Hooters arrived. 

That was the historic original downtown Bay City.

Not far from there was Defoe Shipbuilding:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr968JAkf0I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr968JAkf0I)

Across the river and upriver maybe a half a mile is where they built Bay City Cranes.

And it's where one of your favorite performers is from...  Madonna!!!  Every once in a while she'll show up right in that area on a shopping spree. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 25, 2014, 10:00:46 PM
Interesting.  Were you a longshoreman per chance?  I was, years ago.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on January 25, 2014, 10:47:15 PM
I was a Teamster.....  maybe we can share stories sometime.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: carguy on January 25, 2014, 11:20:22 PM
I have my doubts that it would be a Pizza Hut. Their franchises probably have some conditions that the building should look like a Pizza Hut. Kind of like the old one. I do know of one in Grayling that is in a strip mall with just the logo on the outside though. It just seems like they wouldn't make that move from one of their signature buildings unless maybe it's temporary until they rebuild the existing one.

I talked to a contractor doing the work. They are doing just a carry out/delivery now. The one in Lambetville recently did the same thing. They are also making it a Wing Street location.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: eriemermaid on January 26, 2014, 06:19:55 AM
I never tried Wing Street.  Any good?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on January 26, 2014, 09:45:41 AM
It's not always easy to tell.  Many large companies frequently don't even own any or their properties...   Kroger leases everything.  They make their investment inside the stores. 

Meijer stores are all owned by a large holding company and it doesn't indicate Meijer in the name.

In the case of the this PH it shows Castle Hill Holdings as the business owner and Cnl, Apf Partners, Lp as the property owner.  Two distinctly different names and nothing that even sounds like Pizza Hut in there...  but it is also very interesting that both tax bills go to the same PO Box in Orlando FL!

Interesting "trick" in the business world is to separate yourself through corporations that turn around and lease from another of your corporations.

It's about protecting the $$, as one can go bankrupt and not affect the other, and it shelters one from Liability in the case of torts.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on January 26, 2014, 09:55:35 AM
Little better view in Bay City than the "original" in Clearwater...  (outside that is)

The ones in Florida have better tan lines however this time of the year.
They also have Grouper on the menu - which I don't recall in the rest of the chain's offerings.

We used to hold the first phase of retirement parties at the one in Taylor... and then move on to various levels of "fun" after that  ;D

I still think a Tilted Kilt would be an interesting model for the area...
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 26, 2014, 10:10:17 AM
Little better view in Bay City than the "original" in Clearwater...  (outside that is)

The ones in Florida have better tan lines however this time of the year.
They also have Grouper on the menu - which I don't recall in the rest of the chain's offerings.

We used to hold the first phase of retirement parties at the one in Taylor... and then move on to various levels of "fun" after that  ;D

I still think a Tilted Kilt would be an interesting model for the area...

I've often said if someone would put one in Monroe on the beautiful "River Raisin" they could sell river carp and Lake Erie Seagull Wings :P :P :P
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 26, 2014, 10:14:04 AM
Interesting "trick" in the business world is to separate yourself through corporations that turn around and lease from another of your corporations.

It's about protecting the $$, as one can go bankrupt and not affect the other, and it shelters one from Liability in the case of torts.

It also makes it tougher for the IRS to keep track of things although a very thorough audit would probably eventually be able to sort through all the 'entities'!

I never tried Wing Street.  Any good?

No idea...   we plan on hitting the one in Lambertville when we have a chance.  My thought on wings is there are really only so many ways you can prepare them and I think I've had most of them at this point.  Unless they have some really secret sauce recipe I'm guessing they'll be good...  but not great!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on January 26, 2014, 10:16:32 AM
My thought is.....  Why would I go to a terrible chain Pizza Place to buy Wings when I can go to a chain that makes good Wings....  or a local bar that makes good Wings....  or any local restaurant that makes good Wings?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 26, 2014, 10:19:15 AM
Cat Lady and I went to the one in Lambertville, once.  Once was enough.  PH's IMO, are all close in quality, flavor but not cleanness of establishment.  The one in Lambertville is average, not exceptional.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 26, 2014, 10:20:24 AM
My thought is.....  Why would I go to a terrible chain Pizza Place to buy Wings when I can go to a chain that makes good Wings....  or a local bar that makes good Wings....  or any local restaurant that makes good Wings?

We tend to go to establishments that don't serve booze in the first place.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 26, 2014, 10:21:48 AM
Cat Lady and I went to the one in Lambertville, once.  Once was enough.  PH's IMO, are all close in quality, flavor but not cleanness of establishment.  The one in Lambertville is average, not exceptional.

How long ago are you talking?

Did you go to the 'old' one on Secor in 'old' Lambertville or the new one in front of the Kroger Plaza on Sterns?  The new one hasn't been open very long.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on January 26, 2014, 10:24:02 AM
We tend to go to establishments that don't serve booze in the first place.

Why?  Don't want any questions about whether you can carry concealed or not?

I don't drink, but my favorite dining establishments all serve adult beverages....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 26, 2014, 10:25:43 AM
Why?  Don't want any questions about whether you can carry concealed or not?

I don't drink, but my favorite dining establishments all serve adult beverages....

Possibly.  There are other factors involvced as well....  I PM'd you.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on January 26, 2014, 10:28:41 AM
It is hard to find good German Food, and impossible to find a place that serves good German Food that doesn't sell Beer.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 26, 2014, 10:35:54 AM
It is hard to find good German Food, and impossible to find a place that serves good German Food that doesn't sell Beer.

The 'despicable' Hot Dog Cart downtown serves a pretty decent brat with kraut...   

not the best I've ever had but for Monroe not bad at all...

no alcohol in site :) :) :)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 26, 2014, 10:37:31 AM
Thats true.  In fact, there is no place around here that serves even middle of the road German Cusine.  The place in Milan that closed years ago was extremely good.  Right in downtown and the owner was the chef.  He made the best Sauerbraten and Schnitzel.

Beer and German food go hand in hand.  We look the other way, in fact Cat Lady will have a small glass of the house dark and I might have a sip.  I'm good with that, so is she.

I think the best (in atmosphere and food quality) is the place down behind DuMochell's in downtown Detroit (across from the Ren-Cen).  It's a requirement to carry there.  Lots of vargrants on the street.

The have fantastic Schnitzel.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 26, 2014, 10:50:27 AM
We've been to two in the US that I would say were as good as the average places in Germany.

The Schnitzelbank in Grand Rapids, MI., now closed.  I believe the owner decided to retire and knew he wouldn't be able to sell it to anyone capable of doing the job necessary to carry it on properly.  They do have a memorial facebook page:

http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2014/01/michigan_delegation_meet_candi.html#incart_river_default (http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2014/01/michigan_delegation_meet_candi.html#incart_river_default)

The other one is one we stumbled onto late one night when we were more or less 'lost'...

actually, I've never been lost in my life although I do some unintended exploration at times :D :D :D

We were just south of Punta Gorda, FL. along US 41 I believe.  I'll have to do some Google maps exploring and try to find the name of the place.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on January 26, 2014, 10:54:43 AM
I know a good place in Chicago.....  The Oak Room?  I think its on Adams?  Very good.

There is a place in Nashville that is okay....  it is by a Junkyard not too far from the Titans field.  Gerst Haus.

Metzgers in Ann Arbor is just okay, but about the only one around.

The one in Milan I miss.  They had great food. 

I keep hearing there is one Downtown Detroit....  never been there.  What is the name?

How is in/out?  Pay to park?  Do you seriously suggest carrying?

My buddy owns a place in Punta Gorda.  In Laws are renting it in February - everyone but me is going down.  Had I known there was a German Restaurant in the area I would have went. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 26, 2014, 11:22:36 AM
I know a good place in Chicago.....  The Oak Room?  I think its on Adams?  Very good.

There is a place in Nashville that is okay....  it is by a Junkyard not too far from the Titans field.  Gerst Haus.

Metzgers in Ann Arbor is just okay, but about the only one around.

The one in Milan I miss.  They had great food. 

I keep hearing there is one Downtown Detroit....  never been there.  What is the name?

How is in/out?  Pay to park?  Do you seriously suggest carrying?

My buddy owns a place in Punta Gorda.  In Laws are renting it in February - everyone but me is going down.  Had I known there was a German Restaurant in the area I would have went.

It's been several years...  before Hurricane Charley 'reconfigured' Punta Gorda!

We were there at Christmas and had been on one of the night time boat tours through the Isles to see all the .  They also have a pretty neat lighted boat parade too.

It was late in the evening and we were heading south on 41 from PG...   looking for Burnt Store road and missed it.  I finally figured out we had gone too far and went to turn around and saw this place.  I think they were getting ready to close for the night but they very cordially invited us in and we had great dinners. 

So I'm thinking it's got to be on 41 somewhere south of Burnt Store road and on the west side of the road.  Maybe if some of your family goes out exploring they can find it...  and maybe it's not even still there.  It wasn't a real big place and looked kind of old so maybe it all blew away in Charley :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 26, 2014, 12:05:09 PM
Interesting.  Were you a longshoreman per chance?  I was, years ago.

No, never a longshoreman...  I was working on boats though!

Pleasure boats!!!  There are a lot of boats in the Saginaw Bay and the Saginaw River area.  We worked on most everything from 8' to 80'.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on January 26, 2014, 01:26:01 PM
Okay you guys are making me hungry for some German food  ;D

The chef a few years back in the main Hotel in East Tawas was German and he would make some nice dishes.

I know there's a German "community" in Toledo, as they hold a German American Festival - just haven't looked to see what local restaurants are in that area.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on January 26, 2014, 01:35:07 PM
Its not German.....

But we've been frequenting Stanleys Market in Toledo picking up Cabbage Roles and Perogies.

Pretty darn good.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 26, 2014, 04:45:54 PM
I know a good place in Chicago.....  The Oak Room?  I think its on Adams?  Very good.

There is a place in Nashville that is okay....  it is by a Junkyard not too far from the Titans field.  Gerst Haus.

Metzgers in Ann Arbor is just okay, but about the only one around.

The one in Milan I miss.  They had great food. 

I keep hearing there is one Downtown Detroit....  never been there.  What is the name?

How is in/out?  Pay to park?  Do you seriously suggest carrying?

My buddy owns a place in Punta Gorda.  In Laws are renting it in February - everyone but me is going down.  Had I known there was a German Restaurant in the area I would have went.

MN, the one in Detroit has the best Schnitzel I've ever had, bar none.

I don't know the street names for sure (because usually we are walking from DuMochell's Auction Gallery.  DuMochells is on Jefferson across from the Ren-Cen.  The street on the side of the building takes you there (cross Larned) and halfway down the block.

I'd carry, expect to be accosted by a panhandler, I carry a pack of Menthol smokes (I hate menthol  smokes) to give to the panhandlers...  better them than me smoking them.

It has a huge bar down one side (with ornate taps and mirrored back) and booths down the other side with some table in the middle.  We eat at the bar all the time.  Nice looking waitresses, I suspect college gals.....btw, excellent red kraut too.  All old varnished woodwork, it's a neat place.

The restrooms are scary (typical old building) downstairs in the basement.  Go with an empty bladder...lol

If you want to go sometime, let me know.  I'll drive, carry and you can buy. ;D

Never catch me anywhere near the windy.  Thats Obama's butt buddy's town.  I do have a Greek friend who owns and operates a Gyro shop downtown.  Never been there, don't want to go either.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on January 26, 2014, 05:24:06 PM
Jacoby's?

Does that ring a bell?

Chicago is a cool town.  Don't write it off because of Obama and Rahm Emanuel.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 26, 2014, 05:30:47 PM
Jacoby's?

Does that ring a bell?

Chicago is a cool town.  Don't write it off because of Obama and Rahm Emanuel.

No, it don't.

Chicagp blows.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on January 27, 2014, 09:45:22 PM
On N Custer somewhere around Bates Lane there's a mailbox that has a plywood replica of a bomber plane on it. It's probably 36 inches across or more.
If no-one else gets a picture I'll try to get one tomorrow. I hope it lasts a while before somebody wrecks it or steals it.

Mav
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on January 28, 2014, 07:02:51 AM
On N Custer somewhere around Bates Lane there's a mailbox that has a plywood replica of a bomber plane on it. It's probably 36 inches across or more.
If no-one else gets a picture I'll try to get one tomorrow. I hope it lasts a while before somebody wrecks it or steals it.

Mav

I saw that this weekend.

It is very cool!

I don't see it holding up to the MCRC.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on January 30, 2014, 01:34:51 PM
I will look next time as I just went through picking my grandson up from pre school

Warning if you are approaching from Telegraph!
The section of N Custer in the city is prime for a pothole alert level 3.

Shame that it appears the did the proper care (filling cracks with tar) but the joint where two runs come together seem to have not bonded.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on January 30, 2014, 03:47:00 PM
N Custer in the city is not holding up well this winter. 

Pat Lewis guys are going to have their hands full filling potholes, and I think it is going to move up the list this year.

Now....  N. Custer in Frenchtown....  That is going to complete pot for them just doing it.  While it isn't potholes YET the pavement is completely uneven and heaved.  You better not need to go to the bathroom coming down that road or you will lose it for sure.

Whoever came up with that cheap innovative paving technique should be fired.  It is a waste of money.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on January 30, 2014, 04:18:06 PM
Wonder how difficult it will be to pave around the cement barriers (beautification barriers)  or if they will have realized how dumb they are...

"Paint" is a lot cheaper for making a cross walk.   
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on January 30, 2014, 04:59:24 PM
You would be praising those island if they were putting greens! 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on January 30, 2014, 05:14:23 PM
I wonder if the new islands on Dixie will have any concrete missing come spring thanks to the snowplows ?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on January 30, 2014, 05:16:56 PM
If they do show up one of the first houses I would go have checked for concrete chisels is Prof's place.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on January 30, 2014, 06:25:22 PM
I love those concrete barriers.

They help people understand that the turn lane isn't very good for passing.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on January 31, 2014, 10:09:12 AM
You would be praising those island if they were putting greens! 

I could see a mini putt putt course in the future - since the Parks and Rec department probably could do a better job maintaining one of those, since fancy stuff won't last or isn't in the budget. 


I love those concrete barriers.

They help people understand that the turn lane isn't very good for passing.

or they just make them have to speed even more to get around before them...

Paint!  for Crosswalks

Now if it's a lane issue, you could add a chicane to make those in that lane have to turn - using reflective plastic tubing - done in many areas to prevent that abuse of passing in turning lanes (if the studies showed that is happening)

Florida uses a version of this to do that very thing - prevent people from driving down the center passing lane...   they look similar to these.
and you would only need one section on the side that actually would be turning - to prevent auto's in the other direction from using that lane...   
I'd say they have much more traffic control issues than we would ever think of around here!

(http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/leesburgtoday.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/3/de/3de74a6e-fcdd-11e1-aeb1-0019bb2963f4/50508d7585fcc.image.jpg)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 31, 2014, 12:12:04 PM
I could see a mini putt putt course in the future - since the Parks and Rec department probably could do a better job maintaining one of those, since fancy stuff won't last or isn't in the budget. 

or they just make them have to speed even more to get around before them...

Paint!  for Crosswalks

Now if it's a lane issue, you could add a chicane to make those in that lane have to turn - using reflective plastic tubing - done in many areas to prevent that abuse of passing in turning lanes (if the studies showed that is happening)

Florida uses a version of this to do that very thing - prevent people from driving down the center passing lane...   they look similar to these.
and you would only need one section on the side that actually would be turning - to prevent auto's in the other direction from using that lane...   
I'd say they have much more traffic control issues than we would ever think of around here!

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Putting something like that up would be like putting up a sign...

How 'fast' can you get through here?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on January 31, 2014, 12:23:29 PM
I look at that and I think chicane and speed up to see how fast you can get through them.

Go faster in the turn lane to get around?

You are assuming they have more horsepower than me.

That is not always the case.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on February 01, 2014, 09:52:46 AM
I was showing the picture to see the reflective barrier I find in use in other areas of the country, but they only have one small strip of those that angle in the turn lane to "guide" those turning left...  and prevent others from using that lane further. 

The picture above is in areas where "speed" is an issue - it claims it slows down auto traffic...    Much better than the silly use of speed bumps that some places use - and more friendly to emergency vehicles.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on February 04, 2014, 10:02:03 PM
I was driving home yesterday on Stewart road from Telegraph toward N. Monroe St. At the railroad tracks there was car just ahead of me in the outer lane that suddenly swerved toward me in the inner lane to avoid a pot hole. I had to swerve to avoid him and ended up hitting this gigantic pot hole right in the center of the road and tracks. I thought I was going to lose a tire or maybe the air bags go off.  A few minutes later I can smell antifreeze and my windows start to fog up. Today there is antifreeze leaking on the passenger floor. SOB it's going to cost me $ 400.00 to get my heater core replaced because of a pot hole. The railroad people just patched Mall Rd. why don't they do Stewart Rd?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 09, 2014, 09:30:21 AM
I was driving home yesterday on Stewart road from Telegraph toward N. Monroe St. At the railroad tracks there was car just ahead of me in the outer lane that suddenly swerved toward me in the inner lane to avoid a pot hole. I had to swerve to avoid him and ended up hitting this gigantic pot hole right in the center of the road and tracks. I thought I was going to lose a tire or maybe the air bags go off.  A few minutes later I can smell antifreeze and my windows start to fog up. Today there is antifreeze leaking on the passenger floor. SOB it's going to cost me $ 400.00 to get my heater core replaced because of a pot hole. The railroad people just patched Mall Rd. why don't they do Stewart Rd?

I went across Stewart yesterday and they didn't seem too bad... 

must have been filled in with snow and ice!!!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on February 09, 2014, 09:46:23 AM
I went down Smith yesterday.

Man that road has some nice craters in it.

Couldn't really see them with the snow that was down, but I felt them.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on February 10, 2014, 12:04:53 PM
Anyone see the new City Limit sign on S. Custer between Waterloo School and Western Ave.?
Nice sign but that area is Monroe Township.
Unless a little strip of land where the sign is City property. It wouldn't surprise me if it was... The way the boundaries are on this side of the county.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on February 10, 2014, 12:15:31 PM
Anyone see the new City Limit sign on S. Custer between Waterloo School and Western Ave.?
Nice sign but that area is Monroe Township.
Unless a little strip of land where the sign is City property. It wouldn't surprise me if it was... The way the boundaries are on this side of the county.
That's probably where the South side of the road is in the City, and the North is in the Township...  The City goes to Western on that side of the road.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on February 10, 2014, 12:21:47 PM
I would love to somehow understand the logic that was used to come up with the Monroe, Monroetown, Frenchtown borders.

They are totally ridiculous. 

I love the land locked parts of Monroe Township and Frenchtown that are inside the city - accessible only by a strip of land meters wide.

Then there are the long, narrow, jagged parcels off the river that go a mile or two back.  I guess we didn't need that ribbon farm - even though you can't really get to it from the Township anymore without going through the City.

I have to think that was lots of lost hands of poker back and forth in the back of Paul's Bakery or wherever the game was played when this was going down.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on February 10, 2014, 12:31:28 PM
That's probably where the South side of the road is in the City, and the North is in the Township...  The City goes to Western on that side of the road.
That would make some sense but Western don't have the city logo on it.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on February 10, 2014, 12:35:28 PM
I would love to somehow understand the logic that was used to come up with the Monroe, Monroetown, Frenchtown borders.

They are totally ridiculous. 

I love the land locked parts of Monroe Township and Frenchtown that are inside the city - accessible only by a strip of land meters wide.

Then there are the long, narrow, jagged parcels off the river that go a mile or two back.  I guess we didn't need that ribbon farm - even though you can't really get to it from the Township anymore without going through the City.

I have to think that was lots of lost hands of poker back and forth in the back of Paul's Bakery or wherever the game was played when this was going down.
I know what you mean. Before... Jones Ave. was the divider but that changed over the years. The Habitat for Humanity property is Township.

Walgreens on the corner of Telegraph and S. Custer is Township property. The township once owned the property behind Walgreens but gave it to the City, as I was told.
I see city police cars in the parking lot at Walgreen's quite a bit. Either responding to an accident or something happened on property or in the store.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on February 10, 2014, 12:43:27 PM
Nothing new just something old...Barry's Bagel started moving in on Sterns rd in Lambertville in Nov '13.  Still haven't done much. A worker at main place in Toledo said at least another month and they were getting frustrated.
I sure hope Bedford/Monroe county authorities aren't giving them a hard time.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on February 10, 2014, 06:32:55 PM
Nothing new just something old...Barry's Bagel started moving in on Sterns rd in Lambertville in Nov '13.  Still haven't done much. A worker at main place in Toledo said at least another month and they were getting frustrated.
I sure hope Bedford/Monroe county authorities aren't giving them a hard time.

Are you suggesting that Governmental Authorities can make it difficult for a business entity to achieve their goals?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on February 10, 2014, 06:55:51 PM
Frenchtown and Bedford are the two most user Unfriendly townships in the county.

Residential or commercial. They don't discriminate.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on February 10, 2014, 08:55:25 PM
Funny - I've heard the same thing about the City.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on February 10, 2014, 11:34:33 PM
I would believe that also
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on February 10, 2014, 11:37:24 PM
As someone who is teaching a class related to code enforcement,
sometimes those are the issues that make one seem "Unfriendly"...

however if it's not done properly now - when will it ever?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 11, 2014, 08:25:19 AM
As someone who is teaching a class related to code enforcement,
sometimes those are the issues that make one seem "Unfriendly"...

however if it's not done properly now - when will it ever?

My experience (many, many times in multiple jurisdictions) is that the 'enforcers' tend to have an 'attitude' and it isn't so much the different codes that have to be enforced but rather the way they go about it.  Some will take an educational approach and try to forewarn you of all the latest 'twists' that have changed recently while others just seem to relish in your trying to stumble through everything yourself.  Those are the 'gotcha guys' as I call 'em!!!   Well, I call 'em a few other things too but this is a family friendly forum ;D ;D ;D

And there are always the enforcers that seem to feel they absolutely have to find something wrong on your supposed 'final inspection' just to justify their means (and be able to come back and do a 're-inspection)!!!

I've found the best approach that works for me is to leave something very simple and glaringly obvious not done.  The inspector will see it, scream "GOTCHA"....   smile and hurry through the rest of the inspection.

I'm telling trade secrets here now but one of the easiest and most effective I've ever used is 'right in front of their eyes'! 

After you've put in your wheelchair cuts and striped the parking lot for handicap and van access parking lots just forget to put up the appropriate signs at the appropriate level (it varies).  The inspector will see they're missing when they drive in the parking lot and he'll be all happy that he's found something without ever going into the building even. 

And then when they tell you and leave and tell you they'll be back tomorrow you can pull your signs out of the back room and kind of sigh...  'gotcha' under your breath.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on February 11, 2014, 08:37:19 AM
And there are always the enforcers that seem to feel they absolutely have to find something wrong on your supposed 'final inspection' just to justify their means (and be able to come back and do a 're-inspection)!!!

I've found the best approach that works for me is to leave something very simple and glaringly obvious not done.  The inspector will see it, scream "GOTCHA"....   smile and hurry through the rest of the inspection.

I'm telling trade secrets here now but one of the easiest and most effective I've ever used is 'right in front of their eyes'! 

Thats funny!

I used to do the same thing with my CAD checker when we did the MYLAR drawings for Ford.  I would leave him something obvious to catch so he didn't have to work so hard - because he was going to find something no matter how long it would take.

Sometimes I would even go there with the "wrong" and "correct" versions in the same trip - and drop the wrong version off in the morning, get his call, and then drop the corrected version off at the end of the day.

He would be a happy camper as long as he found something wrong.  I can understand that logic - it was his job after all. 

He was a super nice guy once you figured out he had to find something.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on February 11, 2014, 09:53:07 AM
It is interesting to hear the other side of the story... 

I've warned my students about the dangers of having to find something wrong - and "customer" service...

The goals are what the big picture should be - and in my case, the safety of the occupants of a building.   

For those who don't know and may read this - building codes are for new construction, and fire codes are for the maintenance of that structure for life... 
When occupancy's change, the process is to meet the standards and codes for that change.   (this is for businesses and industry - not residential)

Occasionally a major change is mandated by legislation supporting a Standard
(Sprinklers mandated in all nursing homes that accept federal funding)
which took way to many deaths to finally happen... :'(
and sometimes major changes are made from technology changes
(the deep fryers in kitchens fire protection system change over).   

Working with the owner/manager in a cooperative way - but firm, as you need to ensure they get the message that it "will" be done properly.
Speak kindly and softly at first - but remember you do have that big stick.
Problem is some have poor people/communication skills - and only got the job because they worked in the field...
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 11, 2014, 10:05:25 AM
Anyone see the new City Limit sign on S. Custer between Waterloo School and Western Ave.?
Nice sign but that area is Monroe Township.
Unless a little strip of land where the sign is City property. It wouldn't surprise me if it was... The way the boundaries are on this side of the county.

I would love to somehow understand the logic that was used to come up with the Monroe, Monroetown, Frenchtown borders.

They are totally ridiculous. 

I love the land locked parts of Monroe Township and Frenchtown that are inside the city - accessible only by a strip of land meters wide.

Then there are the long, narrow, jagged parcels off the river that go a mile or two back.  I guess we didn't need that ribbon farm - even though you can't really get to it from the Township anymore without going through the City.

I have to think that was lots of lost hands of poker back and forth in the back of Paul's Bakery or wherever the game was played when this was going down.

There is no 'logic' to it whatsoever MN...

it was all based on the 'greed' of the City of Monroe city councils...  all a big 'grab' (think 'unarmed robbery).  It's called 'annexation'.  If your neighbor like that new barbecue you built in your back yard he just 'takes it'!!!  It was legal (but by no means ethical) for about 30 years after WWII.  Finally the pendulum swung the other direction and they created Charter Townships abutting cities and the theft pretty well came to an end.  We've had a couple of cases in the last few years involving the villages of Maybee and Dundee.  In both cases the villages played 'good neighbor' and will continue to share revenue with the townships they 'stole' the property from!

The City of Monroe has about the most gerrymandered city limits of anywhere I've ever seen in Michigan.  It's pretty obvious they only wanted the 'valuable' parcels and didn't want to steal anything that might actually cost them a dollar. 

Here's a Google map that should show the red line where the city limits is in that area:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Monroe,+MI/@41.9275053,-83.4175111,14z/data= (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Monroe,+MI/@41.9275053,-83.4175111,14z/data=)!4m2!3m1!1s0x883b6fa6b2cc2bcd:0x1aff3b8ff9f0d231
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 11, 2014, 10:14:37 AM
It is interesting to hear the other side of the story... 

I've warned my students about the dangers of having to find something wrong - and "customer" service...

The goals are what the big picture should be - and in my case, the safety of the occupants of a building.   

For those who don't know and may read this - building codes are for new construction, and fire codes are for the maintenance of that structure for life... 
When occupancy's change, the process is to meet the standards and codes for that change.   (this is for businesses and industry - not residential)

Occasionally a major change is mandated by legislation supporting a Standard
(Sprinklers mandated in all nursing homes that accept federal funding)
which took way to many deaths to finally happen... :'(
and sometimes major changes are made from technology changes
(the deep fryers in kitchens fire protection system change over).   

Working with the owner/manager in a cooperative way - but firm, as you need to ensure they get the message that it "will" be done properly.
Speak kindly and softly at first - but remember you do have that big stick.
Problem is some have poor people/communication skills - and only got the job because they worked in the field...

It's no secret that the vast majority of new 'small business' startups are under capitalized.  So, trying to get a new business up and running on a 'shoestring' sure doesn't mesh with all the modifications that are required in a commercial use that is being changed very little from the prior use.  Just went through it with having to add exterior battery operated fire alarm lighting for 'safer' exiting of the building.

Does it make sense...  of course it makes sense and I'm sure it's rooted in some fatalities over the years.  But, when you weren't budgeting for that it's a tough hurdle. 

Hopefully with the advent and advancement of the internet it will make it easier for 'everyone' to find out the latest requirements that they can anticipate having to make before they can get occupancy and hopefully have their business making money instead of spending money!

I'll tell you from first hand experience...  and I've been on both sides of the road...   it's frustrating!!!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 11, 2014, 10:35:57 AM
I know what you mean. Before... Jones Ave. was the divider but that changed over the years. The Habitat for Humanity property is Township.

Walgreens on the corner of Telegraph and S. Custer is Township property. The township once owned the property behind Walgreens but gave it to the City, as I was told.
I see city police cars in the parking lot at Walgreen's quite a bit. Either responding to an accident or something happened on property or in the store.

I thought I'd caught you in a 'goof' on the Habitat property...   I knew it was City south of there...  but according to this map you're absolutely right...   that is literally an island within the city limits.  I wonder how that ever got through all these years?

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Monroe,+MI/@41.9053752,-83.4028314,15z/data= (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Monroe,+MI/@41.9053752,-83.4028314,15z/data=)!4m2!3m1!1s0x883b6fa6b2cc2bcd:0x1aff3b8ff9f0d231
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on February 11, 2014, 10:47:51 AM
Its not the only "Island" in the City.

Look behind La-Z Boy on Telegraph.

Walgreens on Telegraph and M50 looks like an Island too.

Yes - there are small ribbons of land connecting them....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on February 11, 2014, 10:51:12 AM
Annexation usually requires two willing entities, the city and the property owner. In the case of the Habitat property apparently the Morris Lumber family was not interested.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 11, 2014, 12:04:52 PM
Annexation usually requires two willing entities, the city and the property owner. In the case of the Habitat property apparently the Morris Lumber family was not interested.

True Mav...  'If' there is only one parcel involved...  but if you have one parcel owner in a platted sub that petitions for annexation I believe every other owner in the plat can be opposed and it can still be annexed.  That was the main reason for the creation of Charter Townships...   to prevent this legalized 'theft' from happening!

One of the first businesses I found in Monroe when we moved here was the Sam Morris Lumber Co.  I know it was still family running it then.  I remember a young lady that really knew what was going on and where everything was.  Eventually she got married and had a baby and she'd bring the baby right into the office with her.  That kid 'cut it's teeth' in the lumber business...   wonder what (I don't know if it was a girl or a boy) it's doing now ??? ??? ???  That's been 'pushing 30 years' ago ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on February 11, 2014, 12:50:33 PM
There is no 'logic' to it whatsoever MN...

it was all based on the 'greed' of the City of Monroe city councils...  all a big 'grab' (think 'unarmed robbery).  It's called 'annexation'.  If your neighbor like that new barbecue you built in your back yard he just 'takes it'!!!  It was legal (but by no means ethical) for about 30 years after WWII.  Finally the pendulum swung the other direction and they created Charter Townships abutting cities and the theft pretty well came to an end.  We've had a couple of cases in the last few years involving the villages of Maybee and Dundee.  In both cases the villages played 'good neighbor' and will continue to share revenue with the townships they 'stole' the property from!

The City of Monroe has about the most gerrymandered city limits of anywhere I've ever seen in Michigan.  It's pretty obvious they only wanted the 'valuable' parcels and didn't want to steal anything that might actually cost them a dollar. 

Here's a Google map that should show the red line where the city limits is in that area:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Monroe,+MI/@41.9275053,-83.4175111,14z/data= (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Monroe,+MI/@41.9275053,-83.4175111,14z/data=)!4m2!3m1!1s0x883b6fa6b2cc2bcd:0x1aff3b8ff9f0d231
So according to the map, the city placed a sign on Township property. Hmmm... I'm sure if I ask about it at the next township meeting. I'll probably be told that it was "approved". Some sort of "trade-off" maybe?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on February 11, 2014, 12:59:29 PM
I thought I'd caught you in a 'goof' on the Habitat property...   I knew it was City south of there...  but according to this map you're absolutely right...   that is literally an island within the city limits.  I wonder how that ever got through all these years?

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Monroe,+MI/@41.9053752,-83.4028314,15z/data= (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Monroe,+MI/@41.9053752,-83.4028314,15z/data=)!4m2!3m1!1s0x883b6fa6b2cc2bcd:0x1aff3b8ff9f0d231
I remember when living out that way, I was always told that Plum Creek was the divider line. When I was getting older, I was told that it was Jones Ave.
Not too long ago, I asked about the VFW Hall and I was told the city annexed the property.
I think a trade happened but that is my opinion.
Then I get told that, that is why the Township was formed so the city and other areas can't annex property. I get told that now. ;)
Yeah, sure right.  :P
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on February 11, 2014, 01:05:16 PM
I would love to somehow understand the logic that was used to come up with the Monroe, Monroetown, Frenchtown borders.

They are totally ridiculous. 

I love the land locked parts of Monroe Township and Frenchtown that are inside the city - accessible only by a strip of land meters wide.

Then there are the long, narrow, jagged parcels off the river that go a mile or two back.  I guess we didn't need that ribbon farm - even though you can't really get to it from the Township anymore without going through the City.

I have to think that was lots of lost hands of poker back and forth in the back of Paul's Bakery or wherever the game was played when this was going down.
With all the angles within the city limits, I thought at one time that it was something of the Masons (Masonic) like is said in Washington D.C.

As far as the boundaries.... Maybe they were laid out by town drunks after the local involvement of the War of 1812. :) ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 11, 2014, 07:22:11 PM
I remember when living out that way, I was always told that Plum Creek was the divider line. When I was getting older, I was told that it was Jones Ave.
Not too long ago, I asked about the VFW Hall and I was told the city annexed the property.
I think a trade happened but that is my opinion.
Then I get told that, that is why the Township was formed so the city and other areas can't annex property. I get told that now. ;)
Yeah, sure right.  :P


Charter Townships became Charter Townships (as opposed to general rule townships) specifically to put a stop to the 'rampant raiding' many cities in Michigan were doing in that time frame.  Frenchtown and Monroe Township both became Charter Townships to keep the City of Monroe at bay.  Berlin is also a Charter Township so I'm guessing that was to keep Flat Rock from annexing back then too.  It was going on all over the state at the time. 

When Michigan was organized as a state on January 26th, 1837 every single square inch of the state was established as part of a township.  Few or none were named townships but rather designated with the legal terms we still use today as something along the line of Township  17 South, 8 East.  I don't know the precise timeline of when the first cities were organized in Michigan it was after the state was set up as townships first.  I know Sault Ste. Marie and then Detroit and then Monroe are generally known as the 3 oldest towns or settlements in Michigan (preceding the state government by a couple of hundred years maybe).  Anyway, you couldn't establish a town as a city or village until after we had a state government and from second one of establishing the state government we had townships and counties...  the cities all came 'after'!  In fact Monroe wasn't 'chartered' as a City until December 8, 1913 according to the city website:

http://www.ecode360.com/documents/MO1856/MO1856-C.pdf (http://www.ecode360.com/documents/MO1856/MO1856-C.pdf)

Some Michigan history.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on February 11, 2014, 08:30:02 PM
The long French Claims lots that go back from the river were shaped like that because at the time they deeded lots based on a certain amount of frontage and the length was how far you could walk in a given time frame from your river frontage. That also explains why some French Claims are longer than others.

I am sure there is somebody that can ad clarity to that explanation but I believe that is the Jist of it !!!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on February 11, 2014, 11:18:36 PM
Noticed some new, very large potholes on Lewis that appeared overnight.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on February 12, 2014, 12:44:38 AM
There is no 'logic' to it whatsoever MN...

it was all based on the 'greed' of the City of Monroe city councils...  all a big 'grab' (think 'unarmed robbery).  It's called 'annexation'.  If your neighbor like that new barbecue you built in your back yard he just 'takes it'!!!  It was legal (but by no means ethical) for about 30 years after WWII.  Finally the pendulum swung the other direction and they created Charter Townships abutting cities and the theft pretty well came to an end.  We've had a couple of cases in the last few years involving the villages of Maybee and Dundee.  In both cases the villages played 'good neighbor' and will continue to share revenue with the townships they 'stole' the property from!

The City of Monroe has about the most gerrymandered city limits of anywhere I've ever seen in Michigan.  It's pretty obvious they only wanted the 'valuable' parcels and didn't want to steal anything that might actually cost them a dollar. 

Here's a Google map that should show the red line where the city limits is in that area:

BRD   You're history is not as you think...

The City used to require you to self annex if you wanted city water...  thus many of the odd boundaries you see.   No one was forced (unless a majority of their neighbors did it to them) - like most things in our election/petition laws - the majority rules.   
Then as the townships started crying - the city later changed to the extra charge for water in lieu of annexation.   Then later Frenchtown (FERMI $$) decided they didn't want to follow that anymore - and went out and spent a boatload of tax money and ultimately utility rate money - to build two water plants... 

A few years ago the City and the Townships did square up some of the boundaries.

The Holiday Inn (Now Quality Inn) on N. Dixie was one that stood out long ago before the rest of the development out that way.

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on February 12, 2014, 06:46:08 AM
A few years ago the City and the Townships did square up some of the boundaries.

How could they be any more convoluted?????
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on February 12, 2014, 08:25:30 AM
Having to cover all areas during my career I learned of all those nuances, and even tried to work out a (what I thought logical) plan to eliminate the  what side of the street are you on questions ... (Telegraph Bridge - lanes over the river - North is in City, South isn't) and have automatic responses to certain areas by certain departments regardless of which jurisdiction it was in.   

I was shot down, at the time - but I guess ahead of my time - as it seems the "automatic" stuff is going on now.

I recall this:
On South Monroe Street (east side of street), there was at one time an island of Monroe Twp - where a Burger King was...    I was working, and when I left for home the next day - it had burned down, but the City Fire Dept.  just down the street had not been called...  since then that property has been added to the City.   
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 15, 2014, 10:43:01 AM
BRD   You're history is not as you think...

The City used to require you to self annex if you wanted city water...  thus many of the odd boundaries you see.   No one was forced (unless a majority of their neighbors did it to them) - like most things in our election/petition laws - the majority rules. 
Then as the townships started crying - the city later changed to the extra charge for water in lieu of annexation.   Then later Frenchtown (FERMI $$) decided they didn't want to follow that anymore - and went out and spent a boatload of tax money and ultimately utility rate money - to build two water plants... 

A few years ago the City and the Townships did square up some of the boundaries.

The Holiday Inn (Now Quality Inn) on N. Dixie was one that stood out long ago before the rest of the development out that way.

Yes Prof...   'self' annexation was one method and that is not the theory I was referring to. 

If someone owns 20 acres contiguous with a city and they want to annex it so they can plat it into a subdivision and they petition and the city agrees I guess I can't argue too much with that since if followed the legally established procedure.

The other method that was much more contentious was where an already developed platted subdivision would have one or some other minority number 'petition' the city to annex their lot plus every other lot in the plat (a plat can't be divided into both a city and a township although they can exist in two different townships [behind and beside Banas Lumberyard up in Maybee is one example of that]).  In this case unless all parties (every lot owner) were in agreement then it would have to be voted on at the next 'city election'...   AND, not only did every voter (not necessarily property owners since some may not be registered and others might actually reside elsewhere) in that subdivision get to vote but also every voter in the entire city.  It was somewhat interesting that even though all the city voters had a vote NONE of the other voters in the township had a vote even though the township was losing the property (and the tax base).  Yes, that is one of those things where it all followed the 'then established' laws on the books.  But, there was also a lot of fighting back from the townships that were losing property (think of the still 'bad feelings' between Frenchtown and the city) and so the laws were changed to allow for Charter Townships.  It was before my time in Monroe but it looks to me like when Monroe and Frenchtown both became Charter townships most of the cities 'land grabbing' stopped. 

A major issue and probably most of the 'why' of bad feelings from Frenchtown would have been in the late 60s when DTE decided to build the coal burner at the mouth of the River Raisin in Frenchtown township.  I'm sure many in Frenchtown were already figuring out how they would be spending the 'windfall'.  I don't know if this annexation was proposed by DTE or just a 'taking' by the city.  In that case DTE wouldn't even have had a single vote since Corporations have only been 'people' for a few years now ;) ;) ;)

The city ended up annexing all the high tax 'buildings and equipment' at the site and all Frenchtown has today is the coal pile and the ash pit!!!  Not exactly high tax property considering what the city ended up with.  The 2 most recent 'annexations' in the county (both by a village and a 'non charter' township btw) allowed for the township to continue to receive at least a portion of the former tax dollars so there was a lot less animosity involved on both sides.  These were the quarry just outside Maybee and some (I think) industrial parcels on the north side of Dundee.



I have some more info to share on this but it will have to be later.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 15, 2014, 11:57:48 AM
Here's some good background reading on Charter Townships.  I didn't even realize that they're exclusive to Michigan...  guess I never really thought about it much though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charter_township (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charter_township)

http://www.bathtownship.us/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=321&Itemid=238 (http://www.bathtownship.us/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=321&Itemid=238)

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/mcl/pdf/mcl-act-359-of-1947.pdf (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/mcl/pdf/mcl-act-359-of-1947.pdf)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on February 15, 2014, 02:43:23 PM
The Village of Maybee still gets the 1mil because everything in the village is also in the twp.

Dundee entered into a 425 agreement with Dundee twp voluntarily so the twp could share more of the tax revenue than just the underlying 1 mil.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on February 16, 2014, 10:53:38 AM
On the stop sign on La Salle Rd. at N. Monroe, someone stenciled "Hammer Time".
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on February 16, 2014, 11:00:10 AM
I saw that Charter Oil cleared the access to the wellhead across the road from me, I presume to bring in the workup rig to finish the well off, set the pump jack and storage tanks.  It has a BOP bolted to the top flange but we checked the pressure gages and they read zero.

I suspect the BOP is a mandatory requirement of MDNR.

Be pumping that 'black gold' shortly.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 16, 2014, 11:01:01 AM
On the stop sign on La Salle Rd. at N. Monroe, someone stenciled "Hammer Time".


If I had to guess I'd guess this is what they were referring to:

(http://www.carlpackman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/hammer-time.jpg)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 22, 2014, 11:01:59 AM
BRD   You're history is not as you think...

The City used to require you to self annex if you wanted city water...  thus many of the odd boundaries you see.   No one was forced (unless a majority of their neighbors did it to them) - like most things in our election/petition laws - the majority rules.   
Then as the townships started crying - the city later changed to the extra charge for water in lieu of annexation.   Then later Frenchtown (FERMI $$) decided they didn't want to follow that anymore - and went out and spent a boatload of tax money and ultimately utility rate money - to build two water plants... 

A few years ago the City and the Townships did square up some of the boundaries.

The Holiday Inn (Now Quality Inn) on N. Dixie was one that stood out long ago before the rest of the development out that way.


Question...   did Frenchtown possibly have a water plant many years ago...   out by the State Park there is a road named 'Waterworks Road'.  Road names very often were a reflection of 'something' in the immediate area.  If no one knows the answer to this I'll try to remember to post it in the 'history' thread!

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9285992,-83.3393918,16z?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9285992,-83.3393918,16z?hl=en)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on February 25, 2014, 11:48:12 AM

Question...   did Frenchtown possibly have a water plant many years ago...   out by the State Park there is a road named 'Waterworks Road'.  Road names very often were a reflection of 'something' in the immediate area.  If no one knows the answer to this I'll try to remember to post it in the 'history' thread!

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9285992,-83.3393918,16z?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9285992,-83.3393918,16z?hl=en)
I think that this is where the "Intake"  for the City runs to get to the treatment plant.
The City and Frenchtown share the Intake system, under a 1991 agreement when Frenchtown decided they needed their own Water Plant(s).
   
actually part of the State Park is/was in the city on maps, however they never provided services there.

On DTE
I'm pretty sure when the Power plant was built in the mid 70's - they wanted "water"...  that is the reason for the annexation of the main buildings.   Coal piles and ash pits didn't need water service. 

Many Cities - grew in the same fashion but only much earlier in time, by the "neighbors" wanting certain services...   
Monroe could have rivaled Toledo in some ways had they ever planned and utilized the land in a more visionary approach.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 25, 2014, 12:21:41 PM
I think that this is where the "Intake"  for the City runs to get to the treatment plant.
The City and Frenchtown share the Intake system, under a 1991 agreement when Frenchtown decided they needed their own Water Plant(s).
   
actually part of the State Park is/was in the city on maps, however they never provided services there.

On DTE
I'm pretty sure when the Power plant was built in the mid 70's - they wanted "water"...  that is the reason for the annexation of the main buildings.   Coal piles and ash pits didn't need water service. 

Many Cities - grew in the same fashion but only much earlier in time, by the "neighbors" wanting certain services...   
Monroe could have rivaled Toledo in some ways had they ever planned and utilized the land in a more visionary approach.


Waterworks road may have been where the intake was at one time but the current one runs right off the end of Pte Aux Peaux Road 'in the shadow of Fermi'!  That is where the joint pumping station is located although it seems like there are still two pipes that go out into the lake.  I'm not sure on that what with the zebra mussel and ice plugs over the years.  We were involved when they tied the South County water to Monroe City water out on S. Dixie during the 'ice jam'!!!

The Frenchtown water plant is at the intersection of N. Dixie and PAP and I 'assume' on the intake heading on down into Monroe.  I've never encountered any other 'right of way' for the intake heading to the city so I'm just assuming it runs along the Dixie.

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2011/jun/26/cause-of-area-water-problem-remains-elusive/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2011/jun/26/cause-of-area-water-problem-remains-elusive/)

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1350&dat=19891216&id=fktQAAAAIBAJ&sjid=AQ4EAAAAIBAJ&pg=4497,1161786 (http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1350&dat=19891216&id=fktQAAAAIBAJ&sjid=AQ4EAAAAIBAJ&pg=4497,1161786)

http://www.semcog.org/data/agilegov.report.cfm?proj_num=313 (http://www.semcog.org/data/agilegov.report.cfm?proj_num=313)

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9471674,-83.2572851,1403m/data= (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9471674,-83.2572851,1403m/data=)!3m1!1e3

Google maps still shows most of the 'campgrounds' at the State Park as being in the city and the rest of the park as in the township.  I've generally found them (Google Maps) to be pretty accurate so I don't doubt them without some 'hard proof'.

Quote
On DTE
I'm pretty sure when the Power plant was built in the mid 70's - they wanted "water"...  that is the reason for the annexation of the main buildings.   Coal piles and ash pits didn't need water service.


Kind of the way I figured and pretty much what I've heard over the years.  And I've always heard it was a  contributing factor to the 'riff' between the city and Frenchtown.  I'm sure Frenchtown would have loved to have had the tax dollars from more than the coal pile land.

Look what they did when they got Fermi 2 and how they're looking forward to Fermi 3.  I assume Fermi 1 must have paid some big dollars too (relevant to that time frame)!

So, at this point if the city FD is dispatched to a fire in the coal pile does Central send MonroeTown to assist the fire which is actually in Frenchtown?  Last one I remember that's the way it happened.

So, does the State Park have Monroe water or Frenchtown water? 

Map of the city part of the State Park:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Monroe,+MI/@41.9038578,-83.3435584,1927m/data= (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Monroe,+MI/@41.9038578,-83.3435584,1927m/data=)!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x883b6fa6b2cc2bcd:0x1aff3b8ff9f0d231
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on May 25, 2014, 11:27:44 AM
I noticed on south side of the Winchester Street bridge where the old play park used to be... It looks like they're putting in a new road over the railroad tracks.
I'm sure it has to do with the National Park improvement.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 25, 2014, 01:06:02 PM
The roads (backroads and paved roads) are getting worse.  No grading the backroads whatsoever (haven't seen a grader for a month and a half) and potholes aren't getting filled (one by Garst LP gas that is old enough to collect social security..... :P)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on May 25, 2014, 02:42:35 PM
I noticed on south side of the Winchester Street bridge where the old play park used to be... It looks like they're putting in a new road over the railroad tracks.
I'm sure it has to do with the National Park improvement.

Maybe it has to do do with the rail bridge replacement.....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on May 25, 2014, 04:04:22 PM
Maybe it is a state funded secret railroad to the new LZB HQ that will bring in workers from Ohio!  Those guys work for less ya know.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on May 26, 2014, 06:40:29 AM
The ongoing project at Veteran's Park!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on May 26, 2014, 08:19:53 AM
That looks to be shaping up nicely.  Saw several kayaks portage there yesterday.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on May 27, 2014, 08:41:56 PM
I noticed on south side of the Winchester Street bridge where the old play park used to be... It looks like they're putting in a new road over the railroad tracks.
I'm sure it has to do with the National Park improvement.
I'm sure it's going to be a bike path...   to connect with the one they put on Dixie - just not sure how you get to the State Park after that with all the traffic...  but hey that's outside the "city" so we'll have to see if Frenchtown is bike friendly in the future upgrades on the road to Fermi
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on May 28, 2014, 01:08:46 PM
I noticed on south side of the Winchester Street bridge where the old play park used to be... It looks like they're putting in a new road over the railroad tracks.
I'm sure it has to do with the National Park improvement.


Article on the front page of today's MonroeNews says Norfolk Southern is starting the process of replacing their rail bridge:

http://www.monroenews.com/front-page/ (http://www.monroenews.com/front-page/)  (note:  this link will only work until about this time tomorrow and then it will show the current 'front page' of the paper)!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Debimark on May 28, 2014, 02:12:21 PM
That Rail Bridge is most likely getting a face lift as part of the Battlefield National Park, etc.  I do think however, that the steel Rail Bridge across the River Raisin next to Fultz' Gallery is the same construction and age. I have photographed them both numerous times.

Different Railroads?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on May 28, 2014, 02:55:09 PM
I think the rail bridge is getting replaced due to reaching the end of its useful life span on a very busy rail line.....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on May 28, 2014, 03:00:12 PM
Article on the front page of today's MonroeNews says Norfolk Southern is starting the process of replacing their rail bridge:

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/front-page/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/front-page/[/url])  (note:  this link will only work until about this time tomorrow and then it will show the current 'front page' of the paper)!

Yeah I saw that.
Call me old fashioned but I would like to see an railroad covered bridge like they used to have. If I remember correctly, I remember seeing a picture of a railroad covered bridge on the tracks next to the Side Track Saloon.
But I don't see that happening.
I think there might be some around the country. Might be some in Michigan, I'm not sure.
Of course I would like to have a covered bridge somewhere around Monroe County.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 28, 2014, 04:52:41 PM
Probably not a good idea with kids today...........  Covered means hidden from sight.....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on May 28, 2014, 10:12:19 PM
Yeah I saw that.
Call me old fashioned but I would like to see an railroad covered bridge like they used to have. If I remember correctly, I remember seeing a picture of a railroad covered bridge on the tracks next to the Side Track Saloon.
But I don't see that happening.
I think there might be some around the country. Might be some in Michigan, I'm not sure.
Of course I would like to have a covered bridge somewhere around Monroe County.
Seems like I've run across one on Douglass Rd  in my back road travels from Ida to Magdelena's (Mexican Place)...   I'll take a pic next time.

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 28, 2014, 11:05:18 PM
There is one on Douglas but it's a private drive to a house.  There is another on Dargantz Road (south side of Petersburg), again a private drive to a home....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Watcher on May 29, 2014, 07:38:44 AM
What?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on May 29, 2014, 07:42:13 AM
We talked about these covered bridges several years ago in the 'Where Are We' thread...

even a picture of one of them at:

http://monroetalks.com/forum/index.php?topic=18768.msg469739#msg469739 (http://monroetalks.com/forum/index.php?topic=18768.msg469739#msg469739)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on May 29, 2014, 07:56:08 AM
Article on the front page of today's MonroeNews says Norfolk Southern is starting the process of replacing their rail bridge:

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/front-page/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/front-page/[/url])  (note:  this link will only work until about this time tomorrow and then it will show the current 'front page' of the paper)!


Here's the permanent link to the entire article that was on the front page yesterday:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/may/29/norfolk-southern-replace-deteriorating-train-bridg/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2014/may/29/norfolk-southern-replace-deteriorating-train-bridg/)



That Rail Bridge is most likely getting a face lift as part of the Battlefield National Park, etc.  I do think however, that the steel Rail Bridge across the River Raisin next to Fultz' Gallery is the same construction and age. I have photographed them both numerous times.

Different Railroads?


Yes, Dm...   three different railroads!  The one by the city water tower is CSX, the one closest to Winchester Street that is being replaced is Norfolk Southern and the one immediately east of that one is owned by Canadian National.  All three are probably similar vintage but there are several variations in their design and the way they were built.  Rather than go into all of that here I'm going to start a thread over on the History Board.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 29, 2014, 08:58:58 AM
According to the MN, the new bridge will be built and slid under the old one and then the old one will be removed.  Sounds interesting to observe....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on May 29, 2014, 09:08:36 AM
According to the MN, the new bridge will be built and slid under the old one and then the old one will be removed.  Sounds interesting to observe....

I'd like to set up a 'time lapse' camera to record it. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 29, 2014, 11:11:10 PM
........Still fiddling with the well across the road.  They went deeper (had a DNR permit for 1500 feet), I believe they went an additional 500.  Must have got something because they were flairing off gas for a while then brought in the workup rig for a day.  I thought it was a dry hole but they ran down the sucker rod and set the pump jack.

No tanks yet but then no electricity back there for the jack.  Still waiting for a royalty check, probably wait forever.....  Not a big pump jack.

They must have a pile of money invested in the hole......

I'll have to go back and get some pictures when they aren't around.....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on June 02, 2014, 08:50:32 AM
I was told it could be upwards to a million to set up a "hole"...   

I'm curious if one will pop up in my area - in the next few years so I can enjoy the royalties - a few golf courses I'd like to play around the world  :-)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 02, 2014, 09:53:36 PM
I was told it could be upwards to a million to set up a "hole"...   

I'm curious if one will pop up in my area - in the next few years so I can enjoy the royalties - a few golf courses I'd like to play around the world  :-)

Don't hold ypur breath (on royalities).  I was told by someone in the know that royalities are based on 8 cents per gallon pumped after all expenses are paid off.  At a mil for the hole, that will probably be a long time and we get to split the 8 cents 8 ways so we get a penny per gallon after expenses are paid off...   BFD.  Average hole life is 5 years.  'Bout the time it's paid for, it will go dry with our luck.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 13, 2014, 09:30:04 AM
Driving down Macomb I noticed they had the drain at Mason Run all dug out and it looked like water was flowing pretty good.

I noticed some more progress at the drone landing pad on the roof of the 'coming soon' restaurant on S. Telegraph.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 13, 2014, 12:18:02 PM
Some new potholes have hatched on Secor south of St. Anthony.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on July 13, 2014, 06:07:26 PM
I noticed that Pizza Hut finally moved into a part of the old Blockbuster.
The other day, I noticed that there were some people looking at the outside of the vacant part of the BP gas station. Today that Tiffany's Pizza signs up.
I wonder if they are moving out of their present location because Pizza Hut moved closer?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on July 13, 2014, 06:11:50 PM
I noticed that Pizza Hut finally moved into a part of the old Blockbuster.
The other day, I noticed that there were some people looking at the outside of the vacant part of the BP gas station. Today that Tiffany's Pizza signs up.
I wonder if they are moving out of their present location because Pizza Hut moved closer?

The BP location is far more visible from Telegraph..... and I wonder if the rent was lower.  It has been vacant forever.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 13, 2014, 09:10:40 PM
I noticed that Pizza Hut finally moved into a part of the old Blockbuster.
The other day, I noticed that there were some people looking at the outside of the vacant part of the BP gas station. Today that Tiffany's Pizza signs up.
I wonder if they are moving out of their present location because Pizza Hut moved closer?

We were there in that plaza one evening this week and my wife commented about Pizza Hut being so close to Tiffany's now... 

Maybe while they're working on the new location they can take the 'Coming Soon' sign from the R Diner location down and move it over to the new Tiffany's location ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 13, 2014, 09:59:57 PM
I'll take Tiffany's over Pizza Gut anyday.  Pizza Gut is disgusting.

My all time favorite Pizza is Jets Pizza.  Even CR rates it tops.

Interestingly, CR did a big article on fast food joints and McDees rated dead last in every catergory.

I must agree.  For what McDees costs, you can eat at Applebees and sit on real seats, get waited on and have fairly good food instead of tasteless burgers, tasteless fries and sit on hemmoroid inducing plastic fake seats,

I still like their square fish sandwich though, ocassionally.

McDees is pricing themselves out of the market I think.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on July 14, 2014, 07:07:44 AM
But Flip -

Inflation is incredibly low.....

Our Gubment says so.....

Right?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 14, 2014, 08:01:37 AM
Dollar bills on a roll (like toilet paper)....coming soon to a lending institution near you....... ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on July 15, 2014, 11:26:29 AM
I'll take Tiffany's over Pizza Gut anyday.  Pizza Gut is disgusting.

My all time favorite Pizza is Jets Pizza.  Even CR rates it tops.

Interestingly, CR did a big article on fast food joints and McDees rated dead last in every catergory.

I must agree.  For what McDees costs, you can eat at Applebees and sit on real seats, get waited on and have fairly good food instead of tasteless burgers, tasteless fries and sit on hemmoroid inducing plastic fake seats,

I still like their square fish sandwich though, ocassionally.

McDees is pricing themselves out of the market I think.

Noticed that McD's now has Peaches and cream pies that are to die for.
The only good thing they ever sold.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on July 15, 2014, 01:42:53 PM
I see signs popping up all over...  local campaign season is here
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 15, 2014, 04:49:35 PM
I saw a small bulldozer working on one of the outlots in front of the 'Mall of Monroe' this afernoon...  just north of the main drive.  Looks like they're stripping back the topsoil and piling it up.  I haven't heard of anything new going in and there aren't any signs up.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 15, 2014, 10:22:08 PM
I see signs popping up all over...  local campaign season is here

More litter.

I see Pierce got slam funked (dunked) in the letters to the editor in the MN this evening over M151.

I liked his rebuttal and comment about Zorn 'working tirelessly' to get M151 done.  Zorn, like any politician never works 'tirelessly'.  They don't work at all.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 16, 2014, 07:31:21 AM
More litter.

I see Pierce got slam funked (dunked) in the letters to the editor in the MN this evening over M151.

I liked his rebuttal and comment about Zorn 'working tirelessly' to get M151 done.  Zorn, like any politician never works 'tirelessly'.  They don't work at all.

And for the record I did NOT write that letter to the paper...

unless they took it off of my post in here.  Whoever did write it was sure thinking along the same lines I was though ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 16, 2014, 09:53:47 AM
And for the record I did NOT write that letter to the paper...

unless they took it off of my post in here.  Whoever did write it was sure thinking along the same lines I was though ;) ;) ;)

Thought maybe you had a 'Pen name'....lol

Need some more zuchini?  We make it everyday here......

Did you check out the Brussels Sprouts?  Gonna have a boatload.  Gonna have to get another freezer.... ;D

We had some potato leafhoppers that I eliminated with Sevin.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 16, 2014, 11:22:27 AM
Thought maybe you had a 'Pen name'....lol

Need some more zuchini?  We make it everyday here......

Did you check out the Brussels Sprouts?  Gonna have a boatload.  Gonna have to get another freezer.... ;D

We had some potato leafhoppers that I eliminated with Sevin.

We dropped off a few to everyone we knew along the way home and still have a refrigerator full. 

My wife sliced it and dipped it in egg and then fried it (she says just like her mother used to do except her mother's turned out better) Monday night...

last night she cooked it with the last of our sugar snap peas and garlic and onions and it was pretty good...

no idea how we'll have it tonight :o :o :o

Of course my favorite is zucchini bread ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 16, 2014, 09:33:21 PM
Zuchini bread is best made with the 'Wife Beater' size.  John Chandler (our Supervisor coined that phrase).  He owns a roadside market down in Ottawa Lake.  Gonna ship some 'blimps; down to him.

Weeded the taters today and popped a couple Pontiacs and Katahidn's out with the weeds.  No point in leaving them in because they might turn green... we can't have that.  Nice sized too.  About 5" in diameter.

Won't be long now.  Need to have a spud digging party.....

Bet I'm good for at least 5 bushel.

Peppers aren't doing squat.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on July 18, 2014, 03:53:59 PM
I may have to come check out the brussel sprouts -
and I've only had one banana pepper and one green one so far - but my garden is pretty small
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 24, 2014, 10:12:54 PM
I saw a small bulldozer working on one of the outlots in front of the 'Mall of Monroe' this afernoon...  just north of the main drive.  Looks like they're stripping back the topsoil and piling it up.  I haven't heard of anything new going in and there aren't any signs up.

It's just a storage lot for the crews working on the repave job.  Drove by there this afternoon and it's full of various equipment.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 25, 2014, 03:23:47 PM
I may have to come check out the brussel sprouts -
and I've only had one banana pepper and one green one so far - but my garden is pretty small

We have been dry (no sprouts) for a couple years now.  Not this year, I have a couple dozen plants, all doing well.  Last year I couldn't find any starts anf the year before they yield was sad.  Not this year. Sprouts going crazy.

If you drive out P'burg-Deerfield road, you'll find some fresh hatched potholes......
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on July 25, 2014, 06:39:28 PM
If you drive out P'burg-Deerfield road, you'll find some fresh hatched potholes......

Didn't think they were in season....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: livewire on July 26, 2014, 12:39:12 PM

If you drive out P'burg-Deerfield road, you'll find some fresh hatched potholes......

Try Tuttle Hill between Oakville Milan and Ostrander Roads.  Potholes as big as my dining room table.  Some 8 or 10 inches deep.  Looks like the county gave up on patching it weeks ago.  I heard they were going to repave it, but I don't know when.  Maybe after it turns completely to gravel.  Worst road in the county, as far as I can see.

Then yesterday, I watched Wayne County Road Commission grind down and totally repave Willow Road, near Sumpter Road!  And it was SMOOTH before they did it!!!!!!  No potholes anywhere!!!!

What a waste of money.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 26, 2014, 03:08:46 PM
Moron County is the main reason I'd never consider a 'sport type car' with alloy rims and low aspect tires.  Hit a mollyhocker and it's goodbye rim and tire.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on December 11, 2014, 02:16:22 PM
I noticed something going on at Larson's Bar the other day. I thought someone hit the building.
Today, I see it's being remodeled and extending in the parking lot by Admiral.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on December 11, 2014, 03:40:37 PM
I asked about that - it appears they are putting in a small patio...   
(mostly for smokers)  as the "view" is not much...
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: eriemermaid on December 11, 2014, 04:39:35 PM
Now they can play another game besides pool there. You can see who can flip their cigarette but the farthest
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on December 11, 2014, 07:15:41 PM
Who can hit the Lincoln with the Butt?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: eriemermaid on December 11, 2014, 09:24:37 PM
Or hit the gas on the ground!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on December 11, 2014, 11:43:59 PM
Never was my place - I just know a few people who happen to frequent

Heck now that I'm retired - I don't have the time to hang out at a regular bar  ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on December 13, 2014, 08:36:56 AM
I drove down Winchester street a few days ago and I see they're starting to make some pretty good progress on building the new bridge across the river next to the bridge.  They've finished building the road across the river and now actually starting to assemble the steel parts of the bridge.  You still have to look pretty close to see what's going on because it's still mostly back right behind their jobsite trailer which blocks part of the view. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on December 13, 2014, 01:45:04 PM
I drove down Winchester street a few days ago and I see they're starting to make some pretty good progress on building the new bridge across the river next to the bridge.  They've finished building the road across the river and now actually starting to assemble the steel parts of the bridge.  You still have to look pretty close to see what's going on because it's still mostly back right behind their jobsite trailer which blocks part of the view. 
I also noticed the old building fenced in and the windows removed, what was left of them.
I also saw that the old building is now fenced in and the windows, what was left of them, removed.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on December 13, 2014, 01:51:13 PM
Post a pic sometime, I'd like to see it.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on December 13, 2014, 03:01:29 PM
I also noticed the old building fenced in and the windows removed, what was left of them.
I also saw that the old building is now fenced in and the windows, what was left of them, removed.

The old powerhouse?

Must be getting ready to finally tear it down.

I see the new row of greenery and trees in the median of N. Dixie at Elm has had burlap barriers erected around them.  Must be an attempt to keep some of the road salt from splashing up on them.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on December 30, 2014, 12:28:29 PM
I finally remembered to post this. When I pick-up the wife from work, I sometimes turn from N. Dixie Hwy on to Sandy Creek Rd. when you get to the I-75 overpass, it looks like that there is work being done to tunnel through the overpass. It looks like they’re putting in large concrete drain lines (I could be mistaken) It does look line some sort of water work going on, on both sides of the overpass.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on December 30, 2014, 12:38:58 PM
I noticed the other day that at the corner of M50 and I believe it was Strasburg that some ground clearing or development was under way.  What's that all about?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on December 30, 2014, 12:42:19 PM
I noticed the other day that at the corner of M50 and I believe it was Strasburg that some ground clearing or development was under way.  What's that all about?
I saw that too. That used to be the old Fanning Farm. Probably being cleared for housing development that's been going on in that area. Quite a few new houses on Strasburg in that area.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on December 30, 2014, 12:44:07 PM
I finally remembered to post this. When I pick-up the wife from work, I sometimes turn from N. Dixie Hwy on to Sandy Creek Rd. when you get to the I-75 overpass, it looks like that there is work being done to tunnel through the overpass. It looks like they’re putting in large concrete drain lines (I could be mistaken) It does look line some sort of water work going on, on both sides of the overpass.

They were working east of there all last summer getting whatever it is under all the railroad tracks.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on December 30, 2014, 12:59:01 PM
They were working east of there all last summer getting whatever it is under all the railroad tracks.
OK Thanks. Yeah I was curious if they were actually tunneling through the overpass. There's still plywood up kind of protecting whatever they're doing.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on December 30, 2014, 01:13:15 PM
OK Thanks. Yeah I was curious if they were actually tunneling through the overpass. There's still plywood up kind of protecting whatever they're doing.

I don't know what it is they're putting through there though...

I've often wondered why they don't just put 'conduits' in when they originally build roads and railroads.  Wouldn't cost them much to do but they could sell them for a 'ton' at a later date!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on December 30, 2014, 01:25:58 PM
I don't know what it is they're putting through there though...

I've often wondered why they don't just put 'conduits' in when they originally build roads and railroads.  Wouldn't cost them much to do but they could sell them for a 'ton' at a later date!
I know what you mean. I still trying to figure the logic of having a tree line where there are power and phone lines. I thought at one time that it was a kind of wind and snow block.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Debimark on December 30, 2014, 01:48:49 PM
The work in the field off of Strasburg is the Heritage Baptist Church Site that will be built in 2015.

Unsure of the specific plan on the old Fannin Farm.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on December 30, 2014, 03:51:51 PM
I noticed the other day that at the corner of M50 and I believe it was Strasburg that some ground clearing or development was under way.  What's that all about?
Almost looks to big for a house - I was curious as well...   but the access is on Strasburg - so not likely a business.   
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on December 30, 2014, 05:21:41 PM
Yea....I kind of thought so too at first glance (too big for a house).  Looked near perfectly level for use as a parking lot after paving.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Billy on December 31, 2014, 09:17:17 AM
A stop light at the curve on Vivian/Cole Rd.

It's stupid may have made sense when the party store was actually open. Now just have people looking at each other waiting for the lone car to pass through the intersection.

People seem very confused I bet it causes an accident.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on December 31, 2014, 09:28:04 AM
A stop light at the curve on Vivian/Cole Rd.

It's stupid may have made sense when the party store was actually open. Now just have people looking at each other waiting for the lone car to pass through the intersection.

People seem very confused I bet it causes an accident.
This was mentioned some time back.
I do agree though about accidents. I almost had one. I was coming back into town going west. The light turned green and I was going to continue going straight but the truck took the curve to continue on Vivian. After I made it through the light, I looked in my side mirror and saw the other side was green too. So I think a slight adjustment or two might be needed.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Billy on December 31, 2014, 09:52:42 AM
My fault I looked back a couple pages and didn't see it.

The stop line from Vivian is way out into the intersection and people are conditioned to make that turn differently. I just think there could be some problems. Not to mention I just don't understand the need for it.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on December 31, 2014, 09:58:33 PM
This was mentioned some time back.
I do agree though about accidents. I almost had one. I was coming back into town going west. The light turned green and I was going to continue going straight but the truck took the curve to continue on Vivian. After I made it through the light, I looked in my side mirror and saw the other side was green too. So I think a slight adjustment or two might be needed.

Yeah the people waiting to turn on Vivian are supposed to wait for a green arrow but they don't know that and just go ahead and turn in front of oncoming traffic because they have a green light to go straight on Cole Rd. It's a real asinine set up.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 02, 2015, 11:37:01 AM
Yeah the people waiting to turn on Vivian are supposed to wait for a green arrow but they don't know that and just go ahead and turn in front of oncoming traffic because they have a green light to go straight on Cole Rd. It's a real asinine set up.

They've been going 'around the curve' for so long they don't grasp the concept of oncoming traffic (westbound from Cole). 

The curve is still there so the MCRC may have to reconfigure the corner  into more of a 'T' than the existing curve...   for the people that can't 'think' about what they're seeing!!!

Only in Monroe :o :o :o
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on January 02, 2015, 12:06:58 PM
They've been going 'around the curve' for so long they don't grasp the concept of oncoming traffic (westbound from Cole). 

The curve is still there so the MCRC may have to reconfigure the corner  into more of a 'T' than the existing curve...   for the people that can't 'think' about what they're seeing!!!

Only in Monroe :o :o :o
I noticed on the road from Vivian to turning right on Cole, they have some painted triangle lines to follow the curve. A lot of good that does for people on Cole that needs to go straight.
I thought about writhing the newspaper about it but usually it's not an issue until something happens... I'm thinking Preventative Maintenance but then I remember where I live. ;););)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on January 02, 2015, 10:09:37 PM
I've never seen enough traffic there to warrant a traffic light anyways. Too much money I guess.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Frenchfry on January 02, 2015, 10:19:58 PM
I've never seen enough traffic there to warrant a traffic light anyways. Too much money I guess.
I agree. In my opinion, a 3-way stop would've sufficed. But since it's there and I doubt it'll be removed...that green left turn arrow ought to flash red (when it's not green) to remind the Eastbound drivers making that Northbound left turn to yield to the Westbound traffic.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on January 03, 2015, 09:51:28 AM
They are probably using some of the traffic lights the City has been getting rid of...
What other odd places could they put one?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 03, 2015, 10:00:25 AM
I noticed on the road from Vivian to turning right on Cole, they have some painted triangle lines to follow the curve. A lot of good that does for people on Cole that needs to go straight.
I thought about writhing the newspaper about it but usually it's not an issue until something happens... I'm thinking Preventative Maintenance but then I remember where I live. ;););)

We drove out that way last night just to see the new lines you mentioned...  yes, they just add confusion in my opinion!

I agree. In my opinion, a 3-way stop would've sufficed. But since it's there and I doubt it'll be removed...that green left turn arrow ought to flash red (when it's not green) to remind the Eastbound drivers making that Northbound left turn to yield to the Westbound traffic.

I knew what was ahead and it switched just as we got there and it was still confusing to me.  I can see where someone not familiar with the area would be very confused and could easily turn left right across oncoming traffic  :o :o :o

I've never seen enough traffic there to warrant a traffic light anyways. Too much money I guess.

I'm guessing the worst times are weekdays when school is starting and letting out.  With the academy out there now there are lots of parents dropping off and picking up kids. 

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on January 21, 2015, 02:49:28 PM
I see they're putting up a new traffic light on Stewart Rd. for the new Lay-Z-Boy entrance.

A couple of thoughts...
1) Maybe a separate thread is needed for the new traffic lights.
2) It seems like we're getting new lights where it is 'thought where needed' but not "Where Needed."
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on January 21, 2015, 07:35:59 PM
It was probably a requirement - and will mesh up nicely with all the other traffic lights that will start popping up in Frenchtown...  Apparently they have stock options in the traffic signal device companies...   

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 21, 2015, 07:43:27 PM
Noticing that roads are not deteriorating as fast this winter as last winter and/or they are so bad they can't get any worse....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on January 21, 2015, 10:42:34 PM
It was probably a requirement - and will mesh up nicely with all the other traffic lights that will start popping up in Frenchtown...  Apparently they have stock options in the traffic signal device companies...   


Maybe the traffic signal device companies are having a buy on get one free sale.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: livewire on January 22, 2015, 10:10:10 AM
Noticing that roads are not deteriorating as fast this winter as last winter and/or they are so bad they can't get any worse....

Give them time.  Lol

This winter has been relatively mild, without the deep frost we experienced last winter.

If this winter continues the way it has been, you won't see much road deterioration until the frost leaves the ground in the spring.  Even then, I don't think it will be as bad as last year, because of the mild weather.

So much for all the predictions of this winter being a duplicate of last year!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 22, 2015, 10:27:31 AM
Mild winter = more summer bugs = more pesticide.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on January 22, 2015, 11:10:07 AM
I don't know about that SCF, we're not into February yet. It seem's like over the past couple years, the snow really kicks in, in our area in February and goes late. I remember, I think 3 or 4 years ago in April it snowed real hard and fast. I don't remember how much we got but I got a picture of our tree covered in snow.

In your Easter snow suit, with your hat, glove and boots, you'll be the warmest person in the Easter parade.

Let the Shut Up's begin.... ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on February 27, 2015, 01:13:53 PM
I see Larson's has the canopy up on the South side patio area... 

Now when the global warming starts up - they will be able to finish the door/access
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on March 04, 2015, 01:59:23 PM
Drove by the 'burlap' wall on N. Dixie last night...

it's looking pretty rough!!!

It the idea was to keep the salt spray off the shrubs then it looks like a pretty high failure rate :( :( :(
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on March 07, 2015, 03:16:29 PM
Drove by the 'burlap' wall on N. Dixie last night...

it's looking pretty rough!!!

It the idea was to keep the salt spray off the shrubs then it looks like a pretty high failure rate :( :( :(

LOL the real question is did it calm you as you passed by?   

I'm sure the burlap supplier will be happy to have them re-do it next year about mid-winter.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on March 07, 2015, 03:54:58 PM
The entrance to the town was the one thing Custer said not to change.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 07, 2015, 09:06:50 PM
Drove by the 'burlap' wall on N. Dixie last night...

it's looking pretty rough!!!

It the idea was to keep the salt spray off the shrubs then it looks like a pretty high failure rate :( :( :(

The burlap wall.....  (chuckle).  IMO, Monroe is a burlap wall.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 07, 2015, 09:08:36 PM
Give them time.  Lol

This winter has been relatively mild, without the deep frost we experienced last winter.

If this winter continues the way it has been, you won't see much road deterioration until the frost leaves the ground in the spring.  Even then, I don't think it will be as bad as last year, because of the mild weather.

So much for all the predictions of this winter being a duplicate of last year!

Far as I can tell, it's been pretty damned cold.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on March 07, 2015, 10:57:53 PM
Far as I can tell, it's been pretty damned cold.

Cold enough for us retiree's to demand one more vacation! 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on March 08, 2015, 07:01:15 AM
Cold enough for us retiree's to demand one more vacation!

I talked to my wife yesterday and she said she's bringing sunshine and warmth home with her tomorow ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on March 08, 2015, 07:03:21 AM
Humm........I've never heard "it" referred to as that, BRD.   ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on March 08, 2015, 07:04:33 AM
Humm........I've never heard "it" referred to as that, BRD.   ;)

Everyone has their own personal 'pet' phrases for it...

think about for a minute ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on March 08, 2015, 07:06:58 AM
Sunshine and warmth........gotta remember to ask for some of that.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on March 08, 2015, 07:10:39 AM
Sunshine and warmth........gotta remember to ask for some of that.


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Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: nails on March 08, 2015, 08:49:32 AM

 "Sunshine and Warmth" .... yeah, I think I remember them.
  Didn't they used to run around with Bambi and Chastity?

  They were a crazy group. 
  Just never thought I could get one of them to come to Michigan.



Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on March 08, 2015, 12:53:03 PM
"Sunshine and Warmth" .... yeah, I think I remember them.
  Didn't they used to run around with Bambi and Chastity?

  They were a crazy group. 
  Just never thought I could get one of them to come to Michigan.

I saw Bambi the last time I stopped into Alcatraz...

didn't see much of Chastity there though...

maybe she works another night ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on March 08, 2015, 01:00:52 PM
I've only seen those two work the same night once.   ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on March 08, 2015, 01:06:05 PM
I've only seen those two work the same night once.   ;)

It's a tough place to find Chastity :o :o :o
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on March 08, 2015, 01:17:48 PM
She probably changed her stage name.   ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on March 08, 2015, 11:57:45 PM
I'll be looking for sunshine and warmth as they get wild on the beach for spring break this Sunday...   

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on March 12, 2015, 10:52:57 PM
AccuWeather.com says: "Los Angeles: Sunshine and Warmth to Remain Through Week."

You heading West for Spring Break?

http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/los-angeles-sunshine-and-warmt/43625834 (http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/los-angeles-sunshine-and-warmt/43625834)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on March 12, 2015, 11:04:13 PM
AccuWeather.com says: "Los Angeles: Sunshine and Warmth to Remain Through Week."

You heading West for Spring Break?

[url]http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/los-angeles-sunshine-and-warmt/43625834[/url] ([url]http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/los-angeles-sunshine-and-warmt/43625834[/url])


Nope Florida my usual golf trip, although the last visit this winter til next December - Clearwater/Tampa area
82 83 79 80 80    the lows are all mid 60's
http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Clearwater+FL+33762:4:US (http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Clearwater+FL+33762:4:US)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on March 13, 2015, 08:26:59 AM
Lots and lots and lots of new potholes...

they're popping up faster than mushrooms in the spring ;) ;) ;)

Also stretches of road just 'deteriorating'...   heaving, collapsing and falling apart in chunks!!!

Those will be massive pothole zones in a week or two once they get some rain on them!!!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on March 13, 2015, 02:02:55 PM
151 and Rauch seemed to make it through - pothole free so far.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on March 15, 2015, 09:22:24 AM
151 and Rauch seemed to make it through - pothole free so far.


Someone told me just yesterday that there are a few stretches of the 'new' 151 that are showing some stress in less than a year...

oh well...     we got it for 'free' so I guess we should just think along the lines of:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo4OnQpwjkc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo4OnQpwjkc#)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on April 03, 2015, 09:36:51 AM
See more activities at the corner of Strasburg and M50   but still no clue if it's housing or something else
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on April 03, 2015, 09:49:31 AM
The West property is a church and the east corner where Fannings Soil used to be is just being cleared for future use. It is master planned as commercial but w no sewers it has limited potential
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on April 03, 2015, 10:35:53 AM
It appears the Churches - are doing the Urban Sprawl about 20 years late...    Shame for prime commercial property to go that way when they could have moved down the road a little and likely sold the corner lot to make $$ in the future. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: eriemermaid on April 03, 2015, 01:19:09 PM
See more activities at the corner of Strasburg and M50   but still no clue if it's housing or something else

Didn't I read in the paper that was going to be a business out of Ann Arbor that welds or ?fabricates? Something?  It was in the paper one day last week.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on April 03, 2015, 05:06:05 PM
Erie,
Thats across the road at the old Frank's Nursery property.
Mav
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: eriemermaid on April 03, 2015, 06:33:15 PM
Oh ok, I am not familiar with that area.  Thanks for the information.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Frenchfry on May 23, 2015, 12:02:24 PM
The I-75 southbound get-off ramp @ exit 18 (Nadeau Rd) has a construction land clearing company setting up what I've been told is a staging area.

The rumor is that it's to rebuild the overpass...and that somehow it has something to do with the truckstop (Loves) that's supposed to be built across from TWB.

But the clearing is on the west side of I-75 (north side of Nadeau) between the freeway and the ramp and the truckstop will be built on the east side of I-75 (also north of Nadeau)

Another thing I noticed, the house on the corner of Monroe and Nadeau has been torn down...and there's already grass growing. Nice job. Can't even tell that a house was ever there.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on May 27, 2015, 08:33:13 AM
They've finally finished cleaning up the former North Monroe Greenhouse site...   just a few piles of rubble to finish up when I noticed it a few days ago.

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 27, 2015, 09:20:49 AM
Saw (and avoided) some new, large potholes that have been born on Teal Road.  They will probably 'sun' themselves, all summer.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 27, 2015, 09:24:06 AM
151 and Rauch seemed to make it through - pothole free so far.

I missed this one....  Professor, better take a good look at Rauch just east of Lewis in the eastbound lane...  It's a bit 'stressed'.....lol
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Frenchfry on June 05, 2015, 12:50:54 AM
The I-75 southbound get-off ramp @ exit 18 (Nadeau Rd) has a construction land clearing company setting up what I've been told is a staging area.

The rumor is that it's to rebuild the overpass...and that somehow it has something to do with the truckstop (Loves) that's supposed to be built across from TWB.

But the clearing is on the west side of I-75 (north side of Nadeau) between the freeway and the ramp and the truckstop will be built on the east side of I-75 (also north of Nadeau)

Another thing I noticed, the house on the corner of Monroe and Nadeau has been torn down...and there's already grass growing. Nice job. Can't even tell that a house was ever there.
Well they cleared that N/W center of the cloverleaf...made a parking lot out of it with some sort of weedblock type fabric, crushed stone, and some real fine powdery stuff. They started clearing the S/W center of that cloverleaf as well...right next to the Pilot.

Also noticed someone was doing the same thing at the blue commercial building on Nadeau Rd. next to the RR tracks...east of I-75...around TWB.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 05, 2015, 02:45:17 PM
Well they cleared that N/W center of the cloverleaf...made a parking lot out of it with some sort of weedblock type fabric, crushed stone, and some real fine powdery stuff. They started clearing the S/W center of that cloverleaf as well...right next to the Pilot.

Also noticed someone was doing the same thing at the blue commercial building on Nadeau Rd. next to the RR tracks...east of I-75...around TWB.


I came down 75 Saturday and saw the work in the two sides of the interchange...   didn't notice the work on Nadeau though.   

They did all that at S. Otter Creek the last couple of times they rebuilt that stretch of 75...   set up their concrete re-cycling center and after they were gone they completely restored it to where you couldn't even tell they'd ever been there...

all that and they still didn't find Jimmy Hoffa :o :o :o

Article from the MonroeNews website:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jun/05/rebuild-i-75-start-monday/ (http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jun/05/rebuild-i-75-start-monday/)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: MarissaMGB on June 05, 2015, 03:07:49 PM
There is nothing left at all from the old North Monroe
Greenhouse.....its all cleared away.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Frenchfry on June 05, 2015, 08:34:32 PM
I came down 75 Saturday and saw the work in the two sides of the interchange...   didn't notice the work on Nadeau though.   

They did all that at S. Otter Creek the last couple of times they rebuilt that stretch of 75...   set up their concrete re-cycling center and after they were gone they completely restored it to where you couldn't even tell they'd ever been there...

all that and they still didn't find Jimmy Hoffa :o :o :o

Article from the MonroeNews website:

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jun/05/rebuild-i-75-start-monday/[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/jun/05/rebuild-i-75-start-monday/[/url])
Well at least the cloverleaf grading now makes sense. Thanks for the info.

They elevated a large tanker from a tanker truck at the top of the ramp on Nadeau. Looks like it's on stilts...probably about 15 FT to the bottom.

Sure catches the eye when going by.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on June 05, 2015, 10:18:10 PM
Well at least the cloverleaf grading now makes sense. Thanks for the info.

They elevated a large tanker from a tanker truck at the top of the ramp on Nadeau. Looks like it's on stilts...probably about 15 FT to the bottom.

Sure catches the eye when going by.
Saw a few when they were re-doing 96 last year...  I believe they are for refueling the equipment operating in the area - and that high up is harder for some to try and get a free tankful...
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on June 05, 2015, 10:22:59 PM
Looks like a good wind will blow it over.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on June 05, 2015, 10:26:19 PM
Saw a few when they were re-doing 96 last year...  I believe they are for refueling the equipment operating in the area - and that high up is harder for some to try and get a free tankful...
That's what I thought at first then I saw Potable Water on it.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on June 05, 2015, 10:48:56 PM
Maybe they are going to shower there after work.  8*
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 05, 2015, 10:51:48 PM
There are some newley hatched potholes on Ida Center between Summerfield and Secor.....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Frenchfry on June 05, 2015, 11:56:50 PM
Perhaps that water is intended for mixing the concrete on-site.

Construction crews created quite a back-up today around Nadeau Rd and Monroe.

Wasn't sure why westbound Nadeau had such a long lineup...and the whole time I didn't see a single vehicle move an inch so I turned around to zip down a sidestreet...and then I saw another long lineup on northbound Monroe...and the reason for the congestion...they were working on the road at the intersection.

It's just too bad they chose 4PM to do it.

Oh well...progress.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 06, 2015, 09:40:44 AM
There are some newley hatched potholes on Ida Center between Summerfield and Secor.....

Maybe it has something to do with the 'Karst' region under our roads...

They patched a few of our potholes over here last week so they popped up over on Ida Center :o :o :o
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 06, 2015, 09:53:22 AM
They're really making progress on the 'new' fuel center at the S. Monroe street Kroger store.  The little kiosk building is complete and painted. 

I wonder if they bring those in as a module...   but they're cement block construction :-\ :-\ :-\

The frame for the canopy is all up.  There's some drain pipe pieces still waiting to go in the ground and I don't see where they've put any of the fuel tanks in the ground yet either. 

Over by the store project they were there removing part of the temporary fence and replacing it with orange barrels and yellow 'Caution' tape!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 12, 2015, 09:06:35 AM
They have the bottom side of the canopy all installed on the new fuel center at the S. Monroe Kroger store.

They have a big hole dug...  must be for the tanks.  Looks like it's back where the 'street' ran behind the building.  I wonder if they'll keep that shut after they open the fuel center?  It never was really a street but just the alley for access to the back of those stores in the mall. 

It was after 7:30 and there was still a crew of brick masons working to finish the new wall where they had torn down the building to build the fuel center.   

I see they have a big hydraulic hammer on an excavator where they're digging...   I wonder if they're through the overburden and down to the 'limestone' already 8* 8* 8*
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 12, 2015, 02:26:45 PM
I notice a lot of fields of over mature hay...mine included.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on June 12, 2015, 05:10:23 PM
Tons of banners up in front of the new Duncan Donuts for their Grand opening.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 13, 2015, 09:27:03 AM
I notice a lot of fields of over mature hay...mine included.

The neighbor has a few windrows that are actually underwater this morning :o :o :o
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 13, 2015, 09:54:19 AM
The neighbor has a few windrows that are actually underwater this morning :o :o :o

Thats junk.  Hope he has a ditch to rake it into.  I think people get anxious and then do stupid things.  Better to wait.  You can even run hay in the winter, it's called 'freeze dried' hay.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 13, 2015, 10:16:46 AM
Thats junk.  Hope he has a ditch to rake it into.  I think people get anxious and then do stupid things.  Better to wait.  You can even run hay in the winter, it's called 'freeze dried' hay.

I've picked some 'freeze dried' corn in the winter...   sometimes even by hand.  My Dad had a one row New Idea picker.  It was PTO driven for part of it but the tires drove something...   maybe the elevator?  Anyway, if there was snow on the ground it wasn't too bad...  would work ok most of the time...   but if it was real low and all ice then the picker wouldn't work so we'd have to go and pick whatever was left by hand. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on June 13, 2015, 10:21:11 AM
My neighbor just started using our old Picker for his livestock...   that 40's tech still works
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 13, 2015, 10:29:25 AM
My neighbor just started using our old Picker for his livestock...   that 40's tech still works

I've seen some fairly good looking New Idea single and two row pickers around...   not sure if they're late production or were just real well taken care of over the years.  Yes, the 40's tech still works for a lot of things. 

One thing that gets me is the 'compact' tractors that have the power of the bigger tractors of days gone by but they're half the physical size.

Saw one going down the road about a week ago...   going a little too fast as it turned out!

He had a six or maybe even seven foot three point mounted brush hog or rotary mower on the back...

and he had it up 'high' too!!!

He hit one of our Snyder Holes out front and the front went up and the mower came down!!!  I wish I would have had the video camera going for that one ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 13, 2015, 10:50:56 AM
... and every flush suburbanite/wannabe farmer has to have one.

It's big business, selling CUT's (Compact Utility Tractors) with all sorts of attachments, most not revelant to what the owner has to accomplish.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 13, 2015, 10:52:02 AM
dang 'snyder holes' get ya everythime.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 13, 2015, 11:14:04 AM
... and every flush suburbanite/wannabe farmer has to have one.

It's big business, selling CUT's (Compact Utility Tractors) with all sorts of attachments, most not revelant to what the owner has to accomplish.

Are 'any' of them even built in the US ??? ??? ???

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 13, 2015, 11:50:31 AM
I found this article on a guy that rebuilds and sells the old New Idea pickers.  No one actually builds a new picker today so he has a bit of a corner on the market.  Did see in the article that New Idea quit building them in the late 70s so apparently the ones I've seen that look 'new' are just well taken care of.

https://www.farmshow.com/a_article.php?aid=22828 (https://www.farmshow.com/a_article.php?aid=22828)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 13, 2015, 12:07:13 PM
Are 'any' of them even built in the US ??? ??? ???

JD's are built on Horicon, Wisconsin and Kubotas are built in Gainesville, Georgia, well assembled on both.  both use Japanese built engines and drivelines.  The rest are rebadged something else's.  I like the Cabela's rebadged TYM's.  Probably popular with the 'suburbanite' crowd.

Wait until the final Tier 4 mandates come into effect.  Even the little ones will be DEF injection with all the emissions crap.  I suspect even lawnmowers with gas engines will have convertors then.

Obama is busy making sure your small engine burns up with his ethanol mandates.  Gotta hand it to him.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on June 13, 2015, 10:21:55 PM
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/p720x720/11207292_757263214371895_6935278183177150803_n.jpg?oh=49f8297e12a9a77a08d5b67006391faf&oe=5629BF59)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 14, 2015, 08:30:18 AM
They're going to need something to replace the 'Pure Michigan" ads...

this might work :o :o :o ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 14, 2015, 11:09:16 AM
I like it, along with the trash (litter) on the roadside (on both sides actually).  (in the picture)

Another Michigan pastime...  Whip it out the window instead of disposing of it properly.  Dump that old mattress or junk lawnmower or dead Christmas tree along side the road in a remote location instead of properly disposing it.  Stop at McDees, eat on the run and whip the empty wrappers and bag out the window while driving along (when no one is looking)....  Thats the Michigan way....

Who cares, no one saw me and no one lives near here and if they do, oh well, I don't.

I see more littler and discarded trash alongside Michigan roads, that any other state I travel in.  Says volumes about the citizens of this state.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on June 14, 2015, 11:38:10 AM
About 10 years ago I watched 2 neighbor kids throw all their McD's crap out window passing my house.  I picked up and walked down and threw it in their front yard..
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on June 14, 2015, 12:04:37 PM
I'm wondering two things...

Why I can't see Tiny's post...
 - Its an image but it won't show up on google chrome -

and -   when do you think the last time the police investigated a littering complaint and issued a ticket?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on June 14, 2015, 12:09:17 PM
I see it on IPad and Samsung phone
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 14, 2015, 03:48:49 PM
About 10 years ago I watched 2 neighbor kids throw all their McD's crap out window passing my house.  I picked up and walked down and threw it in their front yard..

Those are the kind of people I want to gift wrap a box of dog crap and set it on their porch at Christmas....

You wouldn't believe the crap that gets flung out on our road.  Everything from tires to wading pools.....  been looking for a trampoline too. ;D  An unemployed person could make a nice living scrounging beer cans and pop cans at 10 cents a piece out here.  They (the kids) drink and whip...

Adrain Township has a big issue on Academy Road north of Piotter (near Wacker Chemical).  People use it for a dumping ground because it's secluded and every year volunteer groups haul literally tons of crap out...every year.  The Raisn flows right there and half the crap is in the river.  It's disgusting.  It's a nice road and a nice drive along to get to Tecumseh except for the crap thats tossed.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 14, 2015, 03:50:16 PM
I'm wondering two things...

Why I can't see Tiny's post...
 - Its an image but it won't show up on google chrome -

and -   when do you think the last time the police investigated a littering complaint and issued a ticket?

It's a guy swinning in a pothole (and litter on both sides of the road where he's at.

Do cops give littering tickets anymore?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 14, 2015, 03:58:06 PM
I'm wondering two things...

Why I can't see Tiny's post...
 - Its an image but it won't show up on google chrome -

and -   when do you think the last time the police investigated a littering complaint and issued a ticket?

I'm using Chrome (desktop and tablet) and it's showing up ok...

maybe you have your security set to high...

maybe it's picking up the image as an ad and blocking it!

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 14, 2015, 05:15:22 PM
I have Chrome, don't use it.  Remember....'Chrome don't get ya home'.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on June 15, 2015, 12:00:57 AM
I use Chrome to put the picture on.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 15, 2015, 09:42:29 AM
Here's another one from the 'confusing signs' crew...

One sign seems to imply that the Roessler street detour is straight ahead...

the other sign says you can't go straight ahead...

but the main one says you have to stop before you decide which way you're going to proceed ;D ;D ;D

(http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac260/bigreddog1/IMG_20150614_195315836_HDR_zpstkbrtvoo.jpg) (http://s905.photobucket.com/user/bigreddog1/media/IMG_20150614_195315836_HDR_zpstkbrtvoo.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on June 15, 2015, 04:33:30 PM
What's even better is when the detour signs just "stop"...  and you're left wondering

Who said traffic engineers didn't have a sense of humor
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: eriemermaid on June 15, 2015, 06:28:45 PM
I came home down Stein Road today. It's almost as bad as Rauch Road was!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 26, 2015, 09:24:50 AM
... and every flush suburbanite/wannabe farmer has to have one.

It's big business, selling CUT's (Compact Utility Tractors) with all sorts of attachments, most not revelant to what the owner has to accomplish.


I actually have one of the very first 'Suburbanite Gentleman Farmer' utility tractors. 

It's a mid 70s IH Cub Cadet LoBoy 154.  There was also a Cub 'LoBoy' that was built from the Cub model.  The Cub Cadet LoBoy is all IH iron...  no MTD here although MTD does still manufacture the popular replacement parts.

It used the C60 power unit engine...  15 honest horsepower!!!   They revised the tractor over the years and put in a stronger crank so they could get beyond 2200 rpm.  Then higher compression pistons and ended up at 18 hp.  That was the 184 Cub Cadet LoBoy.

Mine has the wide turf tires and a 60" mower deck.  Some people have loaders on them and a three point hitch (category 0)  but in all reality this is a fantastic lawn mowing machine and not much of a tractor.  It has a really stupid clutch setup and a belt drive on a pto that runs backwards...   it was probably the very first 1000 rpm pto though.  I know of three others within  a few miles of here and I see them out and about all the time.  Just saw one yesterday at Snow's Nursery...   it was for sale and looked pretty rough.  I'll have to stop and take a look at it.  Might be a good parts tractor.

My Dad had the same C60 engine in a 1940s combine.  It was a tow behind with a 5' or 6' head on it.  I remember it not starting very good after sitting for a year so he would put the belt pulley on the 'H' and start it with the big belt.

IH built power units for the military with that same engine too.

It's been said it looks like a regular Cub Cadet on steroids...   here's an old CC sales brochure photo one surrounded by the rest of the CC line that year.  These are the skinny turf tires.

(http://www.ihcubcadet.com/forum/messages/106/59174.jpg)

I bought it from your buddy down at J&R...

actually that was the 2nd lawn tractor I bought from them.  When we first moved down here I bought a used Gilson from them too. 

Here's a youtube of a guy mowing with one.  This one has the 'real' turf tires.  You can see (or rather hear) that he's having trouble with the clutch.  It has a brake on it that has to be adjusted real close and then you have to 'step through' the clutch to engage the brake...   and if the brake isn't adjusted or engaged...   things go 'grrrrrrrrind'!!!

IH made three different mower decks for the series of tractors...   all were 60" plus Woods made a couple of decks for it too...   59"...  Go figure!!!  This is a different deck than mine has. 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4GcfvwYQy0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4GcfvwYQy0#)

If I'm mowing in the open (we have a lot of trees) or finish mowing the back fields (lately I just use the brush hog a couple of times a year) I tow a 60" Swisher offset behind it.  I can mow a lot of lawn with it set up that way!!!




Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 27, 2015, 11:19:24 AM
Is there anyone in Monroe that is not now instantly in the 'Hail Dent Repair' business ??? ??? ???

I think the money was in whoever made up all the vinyl banners that have sprung up everywhere around town :o :o :o
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 30, 2015, 09:39:23 AM
What's even better is when the detour signs just "stop"...  and you're left wondering

Who said traffic engineers didn't have a sense of humor

This one is down in Ohio...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIu-9HaUMAA69rA.jpg)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on June 30, 2015, 11:15:44 AM
This one is down in Ohio...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIu-9HaUMAA69rA.jpg)
That's funny!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 30, 2015, 12:22:53 PM
That's funny!

Somewhere in Ohio right now there is a long line of people sitting behind a vehicle that has no idea of which way to turn ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on August 27, 2015, 09:59:32 AM
Another Church being built...   Corner of Strasburg and M-50

Isn't there a few vacant churches in Monroe?   I guess it's the urban sprawl thing -    no neighborhood churches anymore just mega churches out in the country.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on September 02, 2015, 06:46:25 AM
All the new 'crosswalk' signage in the downtown area. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Frenchfry on September 02, 2015, 07:48:48 AM
The other day it looked like the parking lot of the new IHOP on Dixie is prepped to be paved.

It seems everyday there are enclosed trailers parked there and people are milling around doing things inside and outside.

I noticed the traffic lights from there headed toward 75 are poorly timed.

As soon as the light tuns green, it turns red at the freeway.

And heading west on Nadeau Rd, going past TWB toward I-75, the NB ramp was closed and they made a temporary ramp on the south side...well they also made the lane that used go straight through into a left turn only lane...and what used to be a right turn only lane into a straight through lane. It seems to confuse a lot of drivers. There's no reason they had to make that a left turn only lane. The signage could've allowed both.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on October 15, 2015, 08:11:04 AM
The other day it looked like the parking lot of the new IHOP on Dixie is prepped to be paved.

It seems everyday there are enclosed trailers parked there and people are milling around doing things inside and outside.

I noticed the traffic lights from there headed toward 75 are poorly timed.

As soon as the light tuns green, it turns red at the freeway.

And heading west on Nadeau Rd, going past TWB toward I-75, the NB ramp was closed and they made a temporary ramp on the south side...well they also made the lane that used go straight through into a left turn only lane...and what used to be a right turn only lane into a straight through lane. It seems to confuse a lot of drivers. There's no reason they had to make that a left turn only lane. The signage could've allowed both.

We were out that way Monday and they have lots of broken up concrete piled in the back of the 'new' parking lot and they haven't paved it yet.  There were a couple of workers on the roof and a couple in the front entrance that looked like maybe they were just on a smoke break.  It definitely seems to be on the typical recent Monroe 'new restaurant' schedule.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on October 15, 2015, 08:13:51 AM
Heading north on S. Dixie yesterday I saw that Homrich had an excavator working on those lots north of Allen Cadillac...   when we came back I saw that they have torn down the two little houses on those lots.  Is Allen getting ready to expand to the north? 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on October 15, 2015, 11:39:17 PM
Homrich is demolishing the old Quatros today also
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on October 16, 2015, 03:58:56 PM
I saw the upper area... Didn't appear to be much room to stand up straight. But of course what went went on back in the day... Standing wasn't really necessary. lol ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on October 19, 2015, 09:14:06 PM
Seems to be going slow - as no work was being done today -
Waiting for the scrappers to pick through the metal in the pile?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on October 28, 2015, 08:44:26 AM
A couple of very deep holes in the Dixie just north of Allen Chevy-Caddy...

They're right at the edge of the roadway but do stick out far enough to just catch your right wheels if you aren't far enough to the left.  Must be where either the water or sewer was tied in from the two homes they tore down.  It does appear that they're making the sales lot bigger for the dealership.

When I was heading back home it looked like they 'may' have added some more asphalt but I haven't been back that way to actually check yet.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 28, 2015, 02:53:13 PM
Ida West has some sizeable craters (aka:  potholes) east of Ida, I had to drive to J&R to order some bailer parts this morning....   Also the MSP is doing speed checks (and writing citations) in the 45 zone...
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: nails on October 28, 2015, 03:22:27 PM

Does anyone know what they are putting in on the S.E. corner of Secor and Summerfield.

They are doing a lot of work with the old Pizza Hut building.
Cleaned up the old landscaping and fixing up the building.

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: nails on October 28, 2015, 03:34:31 PM

Has anyone been to the new restaurant on Secor and Consear . . . Sage.

Facebook has several reviews on their page, but the first dozen or so were so totally positive, that I felt like they were friends and employees. Some were posted even before they opened.

 The last few have been kind of "not so good", so I don't know if they were just the complainers or if that's the reality of the new staff.

I read that the owner is a graduate of the Culinary Institute of America, and I know that is one of the best culinary schools in the U.S. My brother graduated from there. So I know he has the training and knowledge.  Hope it turns out to be a good restaurant. Curious about the prices. I'm not sure this area will support a high dollar place regardless of how good the food is.

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on October 28, 2015, 03:36:32 PM
Does anyone know what they are putting in on the S.E. corner of Secor and Summerfield.

They are doing a lot of work with the old Pizza Hut building.
Cleaned up the old landscaping and fixing up the building.

My oldest daughter says it's a 'nicer' Italian restaurant!

She's got a pretty good track record on knowing early on about these things ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on October 28, 2015, 04:20:39 PM
A lot of work going on where Johnny Rockets was. Still no idea what is going in.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on October 29, 2015, 10:03:30 AM
Lots of earth moved at N Monroe Stewart by Dr Ahadi across from KMart parking lot
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 29, 2015, 02:50:58 PM
A couple of very deep holes in the Dixie just north of Allen Chevy-Caddy...

They're right at the edge of the roadway but do stick out far enough to just catch your right wheels if you aren't far enough to the left.  Must be where either the water or sewer was tied in from the two homes they tore down.  It does appear that they're making the sales lot bigger for the dealership.

When I was heading back home it looked like they 'may' have added some more asphalt but I haven't been back that way to actually check yet.

Nothing like a good crater to test already clapped out suspension components....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on October 31, 2015, 07:33:55 AM
Nothing like a good crater to test already clapped out suspension components....

We've got enough of those that are 'naturally occurring'...

these are perfectly square with perfectly straight edges (obviously cut with a saw) and right at the very edge of the roadway.  Pretty sure that when they disconnect a home from sewer and water (they tore them down to develop the lot) they have to disconnect right at the mains. 

Looked to me like when they filled the holes they must have guestimated how much material they'd need and they had guessed wrong.  Considering where they were in the roadway they could have just put a couple of orange cones out but didn't even bother doing that.  Still plenty of room to get past them without getting out of the lane but you need to know ahead of time there is a problem :( :( :(
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on October 31, 2015, 06:37:06 PM
We've got enough of those that are 'naturally occurring'...

these are perfectly square with perfectly straight edges (obviously cut with a saw) and right at the very edge of the roadway.  Pretty sure that when they disconnect a home from sewer and water (they tore them down to develop the lot) they have to disconnect right at the mains. 

Looked to me like when they filled the holes they must have guestimated how much material they'd need and they had guessed wrong.  Considering where they were in the roadway they could have just put a couple of orange cones out but didn't even bother doing that.  Still plenty of room to get past them without getting out of the lane but you need to know ahead of time there is a problem :( :( :(

For the record both holes are still there.  They look like someone may have added more asphalt but I wasn't going to drive through them to check out my struts!!!

It does appear that the area they're working on will be additional display area for Allen's!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Frenchfry on November 03, 2015, 07:58:58 AM
Well not in Monroe County but I noticed the Gibraltar Trade Center on I-75 and Eureka in Taylor has been demolished.

The strip mall next to it has been torn down as well.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on November 03, 2015, 08:41:27 AM
Well not in Monroe County but I noticed the Gibraltar Trade Center on I-75 and Eureka in Taylor has been demolished.

The strip mall next to it has been torn down as well.


According to Crain's  Menard's is going in on that site.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20140430/NEWS/140439965/menards-buying-gibraltar-trade-center-in-taylor-for-new-store (http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20140430/NEWS/140439965/menards-buying-gibraltar-trade-center-in-taylor-for-new-store)

Back in the 70s we'd even see the Joshua Doore furniture store ads on TV.  They were there until they found the owner in the trunk of someone's Lincoln full of bullet holes :( :( :(

Seems like it was another furniture company before the GTC moved there...   anyone remember where they were before they moved ??? ??? ??? 

Were they actually in Gibraltar ??? ??? ???

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljb0-08HW1g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljb0-08HW1g#)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Frenchfry on November 03, 2015, 09:29:50 AM
According to Crain's  Menard's is going in on that site.

[url]http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20140430/NEWS/140439965/menards-buying-gibraltar-trade-center-in-taylor-for-new-store[/url] ([url]http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20140430/NEWS/140439965/menards-buying-gibraltar-trade-center-in-taylor-for-new-store[/url])

Back in the 70s we'd even see the Joshua Doore furniture store ads on TV.  They were there until they found the owner in the trunk of someone's Lincoln full of bullet holes :( :( :(

Seems like it was another furniture company before the GTC moved there...   anyone remember where they were before they moved ??? ??? ??? 

Were they actually in Gibraltar ??? ??? ???
I have wondered why "Gibraltar" was part of the name so it'll be interesting to see if anybody knows the answer.

It's nice to know Menards is going to be so close. A plus is the Michigan sales tax is lower...for the time being...and having the tax actually go to the state where I reside is a bonus.

Too bad their lumber is inferior to the competition.

I'm disappointed about the 5/8" pressure treated privacy fence I bought.

The pickets are mostly 1/2" and every once in a while 9/16" at the most.

Many twist and distort to resemble a potato chip.

The width varied a bit but most noticeable was the variation in length...as well as the varied cut corners at the top.

It's a good thing I ordered two extra panels...that way I could replace a few of the very worst...but not all of the pickets that were bad.

Not much I can do about the 2x3 rails causing a few fence panels to bow out...I mean short of rebuilding the panel with 2x4 rails and upsetting the consistency.

Nowhere near the quality of the 3/4" bought from Carter Lumber in the past.

Time will tell whether the Menards pressure treated fence will attract those bees that bore holes in the wood like I've experienced with the other Menards PT wood.

Oh...and I had quite a few Menards PT 4x4 posts that started to resemble bananas before I could sink 'em all into the ground...so I pinned a string on the ends and mashed down on the string at the 42" point on each end to find the straightest part to stick out of the ground...and planted the curved end in the holes that were dug either too far or too far past the string line I established. That was a mistake I made since those curved posts continued bending even after being secured in the ground. The ones planted with the bent post going laterally along the fence line were the easiest to correct by using the fence panels.

That's one of those tidbits not mentioned anywhere on the 'net.

I hope others learn from my mistakes.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on November 03, 2015, 09:41:49 AM
Now their only location is up in Mt. Clemens...

not sure I'd drive that far just to shop there unless I was already up there for something else.

More from the Crain's article:

Quote
It’s also been making plans for stores in cities including Warren and Wixom at the old Ford Wixom plant site.

I know we've had some discussion here on MT in the past on possible development of the Wixom plant site.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on November 09, 2015, 08:08:34 AM
I have wondered why "Gibraltar" was part of the name so it'll be interesting to see if anybody knows the answer.

It's nice to know Menards is going to be so close. A plus is the Michigan sales tax is lower...for the time being...and having the tax actually go to the state where I reside is a bonus.

Too bad their lumber is inferior to the competition.

I'm disappointed about the 5/8" pressure treated privacy fence I bought.

The pickets are mostly 1/2" and every once in a while 9/16" at the most.

Many twist and distort to resemble a potato chip.

The width varied a bit but most noticeable was the variation in length...as well as the varied cut corners at the top.

It's a good thing I ordered two extra panels...that way I could replace a few of the very worst...but not all of the pickets that were bad.

Not much I can do about the 2x3 rails causing a few fence panels to bow out...I mean short of rebuilding the panel with 2x4 rails and upsetting the consistency.

Nowhere near the quality of the 3/4" bought from Carter Lumber in the past.

Time will tell whether the Menards pressure treated fence will attract those bees that bore holes in the wood like I've experienced with the other Menards PT wood.

Oh...and I had quite a few Menards PT 4x4 posts that started to resemble bananas before I could sink 'em all into the ground...so I pinned a string on the ends and mashed down on the string at the 42" point on each end to find the straightest part to stick out of the ground...and planted the curved end in the holes that were dug either too far or too far past the string line I established. That was a mistake I made since those curved posts continued bending even after being secured in the ground. The ones planted with the bent post going laterally along the fence line were the easiest to correct by using the fence panels.

That's one of those tidbits not mentioned anywhere on the 'net.

I hope others learn from my mistakes.
If you want an old fashioned store that has quality lumber -
I'd suggest Fingerle in Ann Arbor off of Main St.   
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on November 09, 2015, 08:58:41 AM
Now their only location is up in Mt. Clemens...

not sure I'd drive that far just to shop there unless I was already up there for something else.

More from the Crain's article:

The Wixom store is in and done.
I was hoping for one at the old LaZBoy headquarters site. That would liven up that whole area.
Maybe even just a smaller version of the Menards that I have seen

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on November 09, 2015, 09:00:40 AM
There is an old farmer out by Woodville Ohio that still operates his sawmill.  You can get about anything you want.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: livewire on November 09, 2015, 11:33:13 AM
If you want an old fashioned store that has quality lumber -
I'd suggest Fingerle in Ann Arbor off of Main St.

I've found that Chelsea Lumber is BY FAR the best, cheapest source for quality lumber at the best price.  They sell #1 Grade PT lumber for a LOT LESS than what you'd pay at any of the big box stores, where they sell #2 Grade lumber!!!  TOP quality stuff at Chelsea!!!

Lowes or Menards is fine if you're just needing a couple boards to finish a project, but anything more than that, go to Chelsea Lumber.  I go to the one in Saline, because it's closer.  They have a location in Bridgewater (I've never been to that one), and of course their main store in Chelsea.  When I build a deck, Chelsea is where I go.  I don't bother shopping it any more.  EVERY board they send out is excellent.

I can't say enough good things about them!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on November 09, 2015, 02:05:15 PM
There is an old farmer out by Woodville Ohio that still operates his sawmill.  You can get about anything you want.

Do you know of a road or his name by any chance?

I've got a few saw logs I need to get cut.  Was going to take it to Indiana to an Amish Mill but wouldn't mind keeping it more local if I can ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on November 09, 2015, 02:51:42 PM
I've found that Chelsea Lumber is BY FAR the best, cheapest source for quality lumber at the best price.  They sell #1 Grade PT lumber for a LOT LESS than what you'd pay at any of the big box stores, where they sell #2 Grade lumber!!!  TOP quality stuff at Chelsea!!!

Lowes or Menards is fine if you're just needing a couple boards to finish a project, but anything more than that, go to Chelsea Lumber.  I go to the one in Saline, because it's closer.  They have a location in Bridgewater (I've never been to that one), and of course their main store in Chelsea.  When I build a deck, Chelsea is where I go.  I don't bother shopping it any more.  EVERY board they send out is excellent.

I can't say enough good things about them!

I've seen the Chelsea Lumber truck making deliveries clear down here in our area. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: livewire on November 09, 2015, 07:58:40 PM
I've seen the Chelsea Lumber truck making deliveries clear down here in our area.

They'll deliver anywhere.  I've seen them up near Grayling.  Monroe County is right in their backyard.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 09, 2015, 11:01:47 PM
Do you know of a road or his name by any chance?

I've got a few saw logs I need to get cut.  Was going to take it to Indiana to an Amish Mill but wouldn't mind keeping it more local if I can ;) ;) ;)

He's right across from the 100 MP service plaza on the turnpike on the north side.  If you do a Goggle Earth view of the pike and the 100 mp service plaza, I bet you can get the road name.

There is another small sawmill on Route 6, just south of Stryker, Ohio too.

Then there is Michigan Hardwoods in Clinton.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 09, 2015, 11:03:29 PM
If you want an old fashioned store that has quality lumber -
I'd suggest Fingerle in Ann Arbor off of Main St.

Is that middle fingerle or little fingerle?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on November 10, 2015, 07:26:35 AM
He's right across from the 100 MP service plaza on the turnpike on the north side.  If you do a Goggle Earth view of the pike and the 100 mp service plaza, I bet you can get the road name.

There is another small sawmill on Route 6, just south of Stryker, Ohio too.

Then there is Michigan Hardwoods in Clinton.

If it's the east-west road it's Camper Road or county road 169. 

Looks like our son will be working at TRC in Oregon for a long time so he can swing out that way some day and talk to him.

I've got to go down to Wauseon one of these days to pick up some tractor tires so maybe I can swing on over there at the same time.  Only another 20 minutes or so.

The logs are hickory so I want to be sure I can be there when they're being cut and I want every sliver of scrap... 

maybe even the sawdust!

There is a guy here in Monroe County (at least there was a few years back) that has a portable mill that uses a bandsaw.  I'd really like to find one of those that would come right out and cut them up here. 

I saw them at a demonstration at a conservation demonstration at the fairgrounds one day but have lost his info over the years.  Too much info...  not enough brain!!!

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: livewire on November 10, 2015, 08:17:16 AM
Do you know of a road or his name by any chance?

I've got a few saw logs I need to get cut.  Was going to take it to Indiana to an Amish Mill but wouldn't mind keeping it more local if I can ;) ;) ;)


Several years ago I hauled a couple of Oak and Walnut logs for a friend of mine to get cut up.  Each log was over four feet in diameter, and I had all I could do to get them on my big trailer with my backhoe.  The guy with the sawmill was located on North Monroe Street, across from the old Denniston Theater.  I don't remember the guy's name... I don't even know if he still lives there, but you might want to stop in and knock on a few doors and ask around. 

There is a guy here in Monroe County (at least there was a few years back) that has a portable mill that uses a bandsaw.  I'd really like to find one of those that would come right out and cut them up here. 


Maybe the same guy?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on November 10, 2015, 08:25:40 AM

Several years ago I hauled a couple of Oak and Walnut logs for a friend of mine to get cut up.  Each log was over four feet in diameter, and I had all I could do to get them on my big trailer with my backhoe.  The guy with the sawmill was located on North Monroe Street, across from the old Denniston Theater.  I don't remember the guy's name... I don't even know if he still lives there, but you might want to stop in and knock on a few doors and ask around. 

Maybe the same guy?

I know that stretch in there pretty good and I'm not aware of anyone. 

I've got my oldest daughter working on it too.  If they're still around she'll find them.

Years ago when we first moved here my Dad bought some rough sawn elm from a mill up in your area but I don't see anything of them anymore either.  I'd really like to find someone with a band saw setup (leaves more wood and less sawdust although it takes longer to cut too) and the idea of having them do it here would work out too. 

It's not a must do thing today...  just one of my projects I have 'in the works'! 

I want to end up with hickory 'butcher block' countertops when we re-do our kitchen. 

My logs would only be about 20-22" so I should't have too much trouble loading them on my trailer if I have to haul them somewhere.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 10, 2015, 09:03:05 AM
I don't know if they will cut them for you, but our pallet making division (Heidtman makes their own pallets/skids for slit coils laid down) has a portable, gas engine driven bandsaw (that they keep in their building on American Way (right off Benore Road).  I forgot about it.  The saw logs into dimensional lumber for pallets all the time.

It's a big one, I know it will saw logs 30" in diameter.

I forgot about it (until you mentioned bandsaw).  It's real handy for you and I can find out if they will...I get they will......  If you want to, I can, just call me or PM me.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on November 10, 2015, 09:15:48 AM
I don't know if they will cut them for you, but our pallet making division (Heidtman makes their own pallets/skids for slit coils laid down) has a portable, gas engine driven bandsaw (that they keep in their building on American Way (right off Benore Road).  I forgot about it.  The saw logs into dimensional lumber for pallets all the time.

It's a big one, I know it will saw logs 30" in diameter.

I forgot about it (until you mentioned bandsaw).  It's real handy for you and I can find out if they will...I get they will......  If you want to, I can, just call me or PM me.

Let me look around first...

there's a big difference between pallet boards and countertop lumber (I spent a couple of years around a pallet rebuild shop). 

and betweem someone with a saw and a true 'sawyer'!

With the right sawyer and the right saw I shouldn't even have to do much planing...   can't do that myself so that's what I'm trying to avoid.

It isn't something that has to get done right away.  But there's quite a bit of lead time from cutting the trees down to being ready to install the counterop so just trying to get my ducks in a row now.

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on November 10, 2015, 02:50:25 PM
Theres a guy on Stewart rd also that has a saw inside. I know he does his own and markets the boards locally. I don't know if he does private work but it would be worth the call. I'll PM you the number if you want it.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on November 10, 2015, 07:17:35 PM
Theres a guy on Stewart rd also that has a saw inside. I know he does his own and markets the boards locally. I don't know if he does private work but it would be worth the call. I'll PM you the number if you want it.

Yes, please do that.  I'm going to build up a list and see what all everyone has to offer. 

I'm finding that cutting with a blade should end up with more consistent board thicknesses overall...

the advantage of the band saw is you end up with less wood and more board...

I have plenty of logs so maybe not as critical as I first thought.

 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on November 10, 2015, 11:41:10 PM
I did a google search and came up with this place in Flat Rock. He has a portable saw mill and will come to your place and do it.

http://www.logstolumberandbeyond.com/ (http://www.logstolumberandbeyond.com/)

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on November 11, 2015, 07:35:35 AM
I did a google search and came up with this place in Flat Rock. He has a portable saw mill and will come to your place and do it.

[url]http://www.logstolumberandbeyond.com/[/url] ([url]http://www.logstolumberandbeyond.com/[/url])


Thanks for the info...

while I was google searching last night I found this link:

http://semircd.org/ash/news/SEMIRCDsawmills.pdf (http://semircd.org/ash/news/SEMIRCDsawmills.pdf)

and the guy you referenced is on there too.

I appreciate the info everyone has provided.  I think I have enough names to figure out what I need to do next and how to proceed.  It's probably a two year project from the time I cut the trees down and have them sawed, dried, planed and then actually build the countertops.  I'll post some photos when I'm done.

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on November 11, 2015, 08:46:36 AM
Anyone figure what they are doing by the Corner of Monroe/Stewart behind the old transmission shop?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on November 11, 2015, 08:52:56 AM
Anyone figure what they are doing by the Corner of Monroe/Stewart behind the old transmission shop?

I've been watching it...

whatever it is they're not doing it very fast...

must have hired the same general contractor that is doing all those 'coming soon' restaurants around the area!!!

I'm guessing it's something to do with what I think is a doctor's office just to the east of where they're working but not for sure.  They haven't made a curb cut onto Stewart yet so that's the reason I think it's an addition to something that's already there. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on November 11, 2015, 12:34:49 PM
I've been watching it...

whatever it is they're not doing it very fast...

must have hired the same general contractor that is doing all those 'coming soon' restaurants around the area!!!

I'm guessing it's something to do with what I think is a doctor's office just to the east of where they're working but not for sure.  They haven't made a curb cut onto Stewart yet so that's the reason I think it's an addition to something that's already there. 
That medical place is Dr. Ahadi and her son's... along with a Lab for the hospital - and what used to be a dentist office next door - don't know if that ever was filled again.     There is an access from the street behind (employee parking)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on November 12, 2015, 09:22:53 AM
That medical place is Dr. Ahadi and her son's... along with a Lab for the hospital - and what used to be a dentist office next door - don't know if that ever was filled again.     There is an access from the street behind (employee parking)

The plat map I have shows that parcel where they're working is all part of the property from the house on the south side of Ives...   but when I go to the tax records there are no even #s on that stretch of Ives...   two homes with odd #s and I can see both of those.  I can't imagine that it has a Cole Rd address but I've seen stranger things in Frenchtown. 

I do see where Dr. Ahadi purchased the property in 2007 from Dr. Reed but I can't see enough of the info to see just how much property is there.  I am guessing that Dr. Reed had long ago acquired that home and garage and may have even be using it for clerical over the years or maybe just a rental. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on November 13, 2015, 07:24:42 PM
Looks like they've ground down most of the parking lot at KMart and getting everything ready to re-pave it!

The project on Dixie just north of Allen Chevy-Cadillac is obviously an addition to their sales lot.  They've moved a lot of cars onto it already and haven't even started paving it yet. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on December 22, 2015, 08:37:02 PM
Is there a full moon out?

Almost got hit driving down Stewart Rd. by Meijer driveway. Some lady pulled out without looking. I was lucky had a lane to swerve over to avoid her.

Next day I stopped at the red light on Telegraph at Mall Rd. and some guy in a jeep rear ends me.

Today was waiting on Holiday Dr. to turn left on Telegraph Rd.  by Hampton shopping center waiting for a red light. There was a car in front of me and two in the right lane. Traffic had a green light on Telegraph and one person turned left onto Holiday Dr. and the second car just followed along. Well it got smacked real good by a big 4 Wheel drive pickup heading South. They both spun around and hit the two cars in front of me. I thought for sure someone was going to be hurt bad, but they said everyone was alright. I called 911 and told them cleanup on aisle 24.

It's getting scary out there. Can't wait for Christmas to be over so the crazies can stay home.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on December 22, 2015, 09:08:12 PM
I bet a snow fall will slap a sense of reality into those drivers!   ;D ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on December 22, 2015, 09:36:29 PM
I bet a snow fall will slap a sense of reality into those drivers!   ;D ;)

Or their vehicles will slap mine.  :-\
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on December 22, 2015, 09:39:23 PM
A lady went to the right Lane and passed a pickup pulling a trailer immediately pulled in front of him hit her brakes and moved over to the left turn lane on Lewis to turn onto Sterns.  She couldn't have know there wasn't a car coming in the turn lane.  She was lucky along with being ignorant and stupid.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on December 22, 2015, 09:44:07 PM
Never could understand why they have to pass you then slow down in front of you. Happens a lot though.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on December 22, 2015, 09:48:24 PM
Drivers in or around any major metropolitan area around the globe that I have driven are like that.  I'm sure statistics have a lot to do with that observation, but every large city I have ever been to plus the surrounding area seems to show the least courteous drivers ever......and gets worse by the year.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on December 22, 2015, 10:03:40 PM
I think passing on the right at high speed is dangerous.  Happens all the time in and around Detroit freeways.  I drive middle lane, try to keep up around 75-80 not knowing if my exit is to left or right.  Here comes all of Detroits uninsured finest blowing around in the right lane going faster than the 75+ I'm going.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 22, 2015, 10:44:00 PM
Been watching the MCRC out with the high buck but basically useless tar and fine gravel spraying machine, attempting to fill potholes.  Amazing, takes a crew of 6, one guy driving the truck, one guy spraying the mixture and 4 standing around with their thumbs stuck in their rears doing nothing.

It does a pizz poor job and it's labor intensive....  go figure.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on December 22, 2015, 10:49:07 PM
Just what politicians want.  More jobs for friends and relatives
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on December 23, 2015, 03:06:51 AM
Is there a full moon out?

Almost got hit driving down Stewart Rd. by Meijer driveway. Some lady pulled out without looking. I was lucky had a lane to swerve over to avoid her.

Next day I stopped at the red light on Telegraph at Mall Rd. and some guy in a jeep rear ends me.

Today was waiting on Holiday Dr. to turn left on Telegraph Rd.  by Hampton shopping center waiting for a red light. There was a car in front of me and two in the right lane. Traffic had a green light on Telegraph and one person turned left onto Holiday Dr. and the second car just followed along. Well it got smacked real good by a big 4 Wheel drive pickup heading South. They both spun around and hit the two cars in front of me. I thought for sure someone was going to be hurt bad, but they said everyone was alright. I called 911 and told them cleanup on aisle 24.

It's getting scary out there. Can't wait for Christmas to be over so the crazies can stay home.


Almost a full moon so it qualifies by my long term observations...

it will be an actual 'full moon' on Christmas Day for the first time since 1977!!!

http://ktla.com/2015/12/20/rare-full-moon-to-rise-on-christmas-first-in-nearly-40-years/ (http://ktla.com/2015/12/20/rare-full-moon-to-rise-on-christmas-first-in-nearly-40-years/)

It's already messing with my sleep pattern >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: jbs49238 on December 23, 2015, 07:33:11 AM
Those are the kind of people I want to gift wrap a box of dog crap and set it on their porch at Christmas....

You wouldn't believe the crap that gets flung out on our road.  Everything from tires to wading pools.....  been looking for a trampoline too. ;D  An unemployed person could make a nice living scrounging beer cans and pop cans at 10 cents a piece out here.  They (the kids) drink and whip...

Adrain Township has a big issue on Academy Road north of Piotter (near Wacker Chemical).  People use it for a dumping ground because it's secluded and every year volunteer groups haul literally tons of crap out...every year.  The Raisn flows right there and half the crap is in the river.  It's disgusting.  It's a nice road and a nice drive along to get to Tecumseh except for the crap thats tossed.

Your geography is astounding to me.  Academy and Piotter do not cross... (not even remotely close) and taking Academy Rd. gets you no where close to Tecumseh!  Every county has its litter bugs, and every county has it "dumping grounds"  I can think of just as many in Monroe County as I can Lenawee...

The area you reference runs the Palmyra/Raisin Twp border just east of Parr Hwy about 2 miles east of the Adrian City limits. (Adrian Twp, is almost exclusively North and West of the city, maps are your friend)  It is a beautiful area and it is no where close to Tecumseh or Piotter Hwy. which is in Deerfield.  Wacker is on Sutton,, again in Raisin Twp.  not really anywhere close to either Adrian or Tecumseh (about exactly in the middle really and again NO WHERE NEAR Piotter Hwy.)

Consider it your daily geography lesson.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on December 23, 2015, 07:38:08 AM
Hi there JB.......hope all is well, I see your sense of wit is still quite sharp.   ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on December 29, 2015, 05:34:18 AM
Actually noticed before Christmas but kept forgetting to mention...

They have the steel 'skeleton' erected for the new 'strip' plaza at the former Quatro's corner.  They've missed the opportunity to take advantage of the nice weather to get it closed in though.

And, at the Starbuck's building they have the steel mostly up for that too.  Looks like they still have a couple of pieces to put across the top of the front of the building yet.  Interesting that they didn't finish those last few pieces while they were at it.

Doesn't look like they've done any work on either building / site for at least a week though.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 29, 2015, 08:36:10 PM
There is a new sinkhole off Alcott road, near the proposed Trendwell injection well site......
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on December 30, 2015, 06:38:44 AM
There is a new sinkhole off Alcott road, near the proposed Trendwell injection well site......

Would be kind of funny (assuming no one got hurt physically) if one of those sinkholes would swallow up one of their drilling rigs 8) 8) 8)

Maybe then they'd have a better understanding of what a Karst region is!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 30, 2015, 10:08:08 AM
Would be kind of funny (assuming no one got hurt physically) if one of those sinkholes would swallow up one of their drilling rigs 8) 8) 8)

Maybe then they'd have a better understanding of what a Karst region is!

I doubt it.  Trendwell is all about making money and hell with the citizens.  They'd build a platform over a sinkhole and keep on keeping on.....

The underlying reason why it takes so long in Lansing to enact laws and ordinances pertaining to drilling in the state is.....  The oil lobby generously 'greases' the legislators... and I don't mean with crude oil either.  basically no oversight and this Karst deal is bringing that to center stage because not just this area is karst if you look at a state geology map..........

Money always talks at the citizens expense and thats bullshitte.

With the price per barrel, I don't see how they are, but they must be.....  somehow.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on January 18, 2016, 04:05:13 PM
It appears the construction I saw earlier is an addition to Dr. Ahadi's office complex on Cole by the K-mart corner.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 18, 2016, 06:20:00 PM
It appears the construction I saw earlier is an addition to Dr. Ahadi's office complex on Cole by the K-mart corner.

I was by there this afternoon and saw the addition taking shape...

I even remembered that I'd have to post about it but I see you were a step ahead of me today ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on January 18, 2016, 09:08:18 PM
I noticed that the building at Telegraph and Stewart Rds. last week had the cable TV and phone wires laying on the roof. The electric lines were up higher. Is that allowed to have the electric lines going over the building?

They were out there working on the cable TV and phone lines Saturday.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 19, 2016, 10:00:45 AM
I noticed that the building at Telegraph and Stewart Rds. last week had the cable TV and phone wires laying on the roof. The electric lines were up higher. Is that allowed to have the electric lines going over the building?

They were out there working on the cable TV and phone lines Saturday.

I'm actually not sure how that works.  I know if you look around you see it more often than you would think it would happen.  I've seen it more often in some areas than others so it may be by ordinance. 

I had a friend up north building a new commercial building right in the middle of his 3 acre lot.  There had been a residential 'drop' that ran across the lot 'diagonally' for years.  When he got ready to build he contacted Consumers Power and told them they would have to move the lines to the edge of the parcel (where they should have been in the first place).  First they wanted to charge him...  claimed they had a right of way...  he had their row on paper and it ran down the lot line and not where they had put it.  They finally agreed to move it without charging him but said their schedule wouldn't allow for the work for several months. 

He explained they were pouring footings that day and would be starting framing in a couple of weeks and that was their window.  The day he showed up to frame they hadn't done a thing so he called again and explained that he would be blocking their wires up with a 2x4 at noon!!! 

They showed up at 11:30 and moved the wires so I guess in that area they don't want wires over a building (especially a commercial one).
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: livewire on January 19, 2016, 05:50:20 PM
It's not at all uncommon to temporarily prop up a triplex or quadplex with 2x4's at a construction site.  I've done that many times to allow for trucks to pass underneath.

As far as the wires passing over buildings - I'm not aware of the exact circumstances in these posts, but generally if it conforms to the NEC, the utilities will allow it.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Frenchfry on January 19, 2016, 06:08:03 PM
It's not at all uncommon to temporarily prop up a triplex or quadplex with 2x4's at a construction site.  I've done that many times to allow for trucks to pass underneath.

As far as the wires passing over buildings - I'm not aware of the exact circumstances in these posts, but generally if it conforms to the NEC, the utilities will allow it.
I didn't know "the utilities" had any say so about what could be built beneath them.
What about the municipalities that issue the building permits?

I noticed that the building at Telegraph and Stewart Rds. last week had the cable TV and phone wires laying on the roof. The electric lines were up higher. Is that allowed to have the electric lines going over the building?

They were out there working on the cable TV and phone lines Saturday.
If that's Frenchtown...I saw the answer to your question here...but I can't recall the specifics:
http://www.frenchtowntownship.org/bui_home.php (http://www.frenchtowntownship.org/bui_home.php)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 20, 2016, 06:53:40 AM
It's not at all uncommon to temporarily prop up a triplex or quadplex with 2x4's at a construction site.  I've done that many times to allow for trucks to pass underneath.

As far as the wires passing over buildings - I'm not aware of the exact circumstances in these posts, but generally if it conforms to the NEC, the utilities will allow it.

This wasn't a temporary prop he had fashioned...

the ground had originally been kind of low (would probably be a wetland today and couldn't be built on) and he had already backfilled it a few years before with 4 or 5 feet of sand.  The wires were now only 6-7 feet above the ground.  He was adding a one story building but with probably a 10-12 pitch roof so he was probably at 24 to 26 feet high 'under' the wires. 

The bottom line on this one is the wires never should have been installed the way they were.  CP was counting heavily that no one would ever build on this lot so they just went the 'shortest' route with their original installation and went diagonally across the lot.  Worked great for years :o :o :o

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: livewire on January 22, 2016, 07:38:48 PM
I didn't know "the utilities" had any say so about what could be built beneath them.
What about the municipalities that issue the building permits?

The utilities own those lines.  If someone creates a dangerous situation underneath one of their lines (possibly through their own stupidity, or ignorance), they have every right to do something about it.

Municipalities often issue building permits without the knowledge of any existing overhead power lines.  It is the builder's responsibility to ensure the lines are indicated on a site plan included in the permit application, and they are moved to comply with the NEC regarding overhead clearances.  The builder can't just start building, getting closer and closer to overhead lines, just because he has a building permit in his hand.

The example that BRD told about his friend up north...  That was handled properly by the builder, it sounds, except he probably should have noticed the wires a little sooner, and given CP more time to move it.  The triplex was outside of CP's right of way, and it was their responsibility to get it moved ASAP, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on January 22, 2016, 09:00:55 PM
Drove by today and they took down the high voltage lines up above, Now waiting for the cable and phone lines to be moved. I wondered why construction had stopped.

(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab249/ka8ebi/DSCN0626_zpsysueuumv.jpg)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Frenchfry on January 24, 2016, 02:07:12 AM
The utilities own those lines.  If someone creates a dangerous situation underneath one of their lines (possibly through their own stupidity, or ignorance), they have every right to do something about it.
Such as??

Municipalities often issue building permits without the knowledge of any existing overhead power lines.  It is the builder's responsibility to ensure the lines are indicated on a site plan included in the permit application, and they are moved to comply with the NEC regarding overhead clearances.  The builder can't just start building, getting closer and closer to overhead lines, just because he has a building permit in his hand.

The example that BRD told about his friend up north...  That was handled properly by the builder, it sounds, except he probably should have noticed the wires a little sooner, and given CP more time to move it.  The triplex was outside of CP's right of way, and it was their responsibility to get it moved ASAP, in my opinion.
What are those clearances?
Somehow I was under the impression nothing could be built under those lines...but I have nothing to base that on and may be totally mistaken.

Drove by today and they took down the high voltage lines up above, Now waiting for the cable and phone lines to be moved. I wondered why construction had stopped.

([url]http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab249/ka8ebi/DSCN0626_zpsysueuumv.jpg[/url])

Wow. I've never seen anything like that.
Can't believe that was allowed to even go there.
Must have been a challenge for the crane operator.
I take it that pic was taken before the upper lines were removed.
I wonder if they'll take another route or if they'll go underground there.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on January 25, 2016, 11:56:59 PM
They put a transformer on that pole and ran a feed line back to the Meijer Gas station.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 26, 2016, 06:56:24 AM
They put a transformer on that pole and ran a feed line back to the Meijer Gas station.

I got on the Google aerial and tried to figure out which way that line is running (which end has the power supply on it) and I never could decide.  There are some major lines all around that area and it doesn't look like anything was planned out...  it just grew as the intersection grew over the years.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on January 26, 2016, 09:26:55 PM
Went through the Burger King a few days back and they have an extension cord plugged in to Burger King running to the site... 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on January 27, 2016, 12:13:06 AM
Looks to me like it came from Burger King side and crossed Stewart to Meijer Gas station when it ended.

Now they cut the top of that pole off and moved all the wires East of the new building.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 17, 2016, 07:29:07 AM
Some construction  going on at the HiLite store at Dunbar and Telegraph.  Looks to be in the area near the entrance but I really couldn't tell exactly what they're doing.  I was waiting for the light to change so only had a few seconds to 'study' it!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on February 17, 2016, 04:45:26 PM
Promedica is building a big addition to the East side of the old Memorial hospital Building on Stewart Rd.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: arpydave on February 17, 2016, 06:53:11 PM
Yeah, right after a new complex got installed next door on Stewart Road, whether they had their hands in the pockets then or now.

And OBTW: ProMedica to build new hospital in Monroe

http://www.monroenews.com/article/20160209/NEWS/160208941/0/SEARCH (http://www.monroenews.com/article/20160209/NEWS/160208941/0/SEARCH)

Every big business right now is keeping their profits in their pockets, but not these guys.

15 years or so ago my Boss couldn't look me in the eye in October when we talked about signing up for the annual medical insurance, because I called it my annual pay cut.

It's what they call a loss leader in retail. Take the hit today on this item, recoup down the line or whatever else is in the grocery basket.

How's that Obamacare working out for y'all? They took a loss initially, now they jack your prices.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on February 17, 2016, 09:58:18 PM
There is a huge metal culvert sitting on the north side of Deerfield Road at Dennison Road.  You could use if for a garage..... ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on February 17, 2016, 11:18:42 PM
Some construction  going on at the HiLite store at Dunbar and Telegraph.  Looks to be in the area near the entrance but I really couldn't tell exactly what they're doing.  I was waiting for the light to change so only had a few seconds to 'study' it!
They are re-doing the entrance... 

I see further North on Telegraph the medical supply company has changed names   (corner of Lorain I believe)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 18, 2016, 08:19:04 AM
They are re-doing the entrance... 

I see further North on Telegraph the medical supply company has changed names   (corner of Lorain I believe)


I remember reading on the business page that they were selling out.  Looks like it's now a part of a much larger company:

http://www.sobakshomemedical.com/ (http://www.sobakshomemedical.com/)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on February 20, 2016, 03:02:25 PM
On North Custer - west of N. Raisinville there is something going on by the River - lots of wood down for excavating equipment... 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on February 20, 2016, 05:21:30 PM
They are boring under the river for a Marathon Oil pipeline replacement project.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 20, 2016, 07:40:44 PM
On North Custer - west of N. Raisinville there is something going on by the River - lots of wood down for excavating equipment... 

They are boring under the river for a Marathon Oil pipeline replacement project.

I've been to a couple of classes on pipelines there.  The guy that works (or did at the time) for Marathon lives on the river just where the railroad overpass crosses N. Custer.  We did part of the class in his pole barn and then went down to the actual pipeline crossing.

Interesting that Marathon is upgrading those pipes under the River Raisin but Enbridge is standing pat on the lines under the straits >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on February 22, 2016, 05:18:51 PM
I found out today that there is a pipeline that is just laid on the river bed and they are boring a replacement line so it is buried under the river.

I said Marathon but it might not be their line. There are Buckeye and Panhandle lines there too.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 22, 2016, 07:44:38 PM
I found out today that there is a pipeline that is just laid on the river bed and they are boring a replacement line so it is buried under the river.

I said Marathon but it might not be their line. There are Buckeye and Panhandle lines there too.


The Marathon line is within sight of the Raisinville Rd. bridge.  Panhandle Easter is way to the west of there and I guess I don't know exactly where the Buckeye line crosses the river.  I thought I had posted a map here of the all the pipelines in the county at one time but I can't find it now.

Here's a link to Marathon's pipelines.  You'll have to zoom into Monroe area and then switch to satellite view and you can get a pretty good idea of where they're working in the river.

http://www.marathonpipeline.com/Where_We_Operate/ (http://www.marathonpipeline.com/Where_We_Operate/)

I wonder if this is related to the 'new' pipeline we discussed back in 2007 on here?  Maybe the 'new' requirements require them to 'bury' the new line rather than just lay it on the riverbed (which is mostly rock all along there).

http://monroetalks.com/forum/index.php?topic=2079.0 (http://monroetalks.com/forum/index.php?topic=2079.0)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on February 22, 2016, 09:32:24 PM
I wonder if this is related to the 'new' pipeline we discussed back in 2007 on here?  Maybe the 'new' requirements require them to 'bury' the new line rather than just lay it on the riverbed (which is mostly rock all along there).

I'd say it's rocks, old waterlogged trees, a sprinkling of tires, maybe some old appliances too.....

BTW, it's Panhandle Eastern....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on February 22, 2016, 10:52:49 PM
I'd have to go back and look but one of the pipeline utilities has a right of way going through my farm - and they haven't put it in yet - so this may be the Pipeline for that...    It was negotiated a few years back -
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on February 22, 2016, 11:32:57 PM
It's not the new pipeline. When the new pipeline comes through it will be redirected to a spot further west than Raisinville rd before it crosses the river and heads towards Samaria. There's not enough room for another easement next to the existing easement. There are 5 pipes in the ground in that easement right now. I think only 2 are active. One for sure is Buckeye.
The 24 inch Marathon line that will pump heavy crude is on hold for now.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 23, 2016, 06:25:06 AM
I've been looking for the pipeline map I know I posted (at least thought I did...) here a few years ago.

This one is a large .pdf file and it really doesn't let you get into real detail of where the lines run in the county:

http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/mpsc/gas/img/crudepipelinesmap.pdf (http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/mpsc/gas/img/crudepipelinesmap.pdf)


This one doesn't get into detail but it sure does show how 'we' have a high proportion of the lines in the entire state!

(http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/mpsc/gas/img/petroleumproductpipeline.png)

Above from:

http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/mpsc/gas/petroprodpipe.htm (http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/mpsc/gas/petroprodpipe.htm)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on February 23, 2016, 02:35:59 PM
What it don't show is Line 5 under the straits nor does it show the Refinery at Ecorse.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on February 23, 2016, 02:39:30 PM
It's not the new pipeline. When the new pipeline comes through it will be redirected to a spot further west than Raisinville rd before it crosses the river and heads towards Samaria. There's not enough room for another easement next to the existing easement. There are 5 pipes in the ground in that easement right now. I think only 2 are active. One for sure is Buckeye.
The 24 inch Marathon line that will pump heavy crude is on hold for now.

If you get a chance to go down towards Maumee on 75 and swing north on 23 towards Michigan you'll see them installing what I think is either the Rover or Nexus line beside the e-way.  I'm curious about what they do crossing the Maumee river....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on February 23, 2016, 04:31:32 PM
I saw it today and the pipe is right there at the river. I'm not sure if that riverbed is solid rock like the Raisin. If it isn't they will just bury it like the rest of the line.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on February 23, 2016, 09:28:33 PM
I saw it today and the pipe is right there at the river. I'm not sure if that riverbed is solid rock like the Raisin. If it isn't they will just bury it like the rest of the line.

I believe it is rock.  They may wait for a low water condition and drive right out with big excavators and rock drills and trench it.  They do have quite a flotilla of heavy equipment amassed.  Been watching them weld sections together and X-ray them.

No way could they directional drill under the river.  For one, the pipe diameter is too large and secondly, the span is too wide.

I also wonder what they are going to so at the US24 cloverleaf.  I think they are going to swing east toward downtown Maumee and cross by the hospital and come back to the freeway right of way....  I think.

It's interesting to watch, not only the preperations but the actual setting of the pipe.  I go by there many times during the week.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on February 24, 2016, 05:16:35 AM
I believe it is rock.  They may wait for a low water condition and drive right out with big excavators and rock drills and trench it.  They do have quite a flotilla of heavy equipment amassed.  Been watching them weld sections together and X-ray them.

No way could they directional drill under the river.  For one, the pipe diameter is too large and secondly, the span is too wide.

I also wonder what they are going to so at the US24 cloverleaf.  I think they are going to swing east toward downtown Maumee and cross by the hospital and come back to the freeway right of way....  I think.

It's interesting to watch, not only the preperations but the actual setting of the pipe.  I go by there many times during the week.

It's not as big as the Chunnel.

That was a directional drill - wasn't it?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on February 24, 2016, 09:08:35 AM
It's not as big as the Chunnel.

That was a directional drill - wasn't it?

That was a specially designed and built on site directional rotary face drill.  Probably cost more to construct and operate than the whole pipeline cost.

I suspect they will wait for low water and do a surface trench operation, kind of like was done with the RR bridge in Monroe.  The Maumee is shallow at that spot anyway.  It's only navigable to just west of the I-75 bridge.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on February 25, 2016, 07:42:41 PM
That was a specially designed and built on site directional rotary face drill.  Probably cost more to construct and operate than the whole pipeline cost.

I never said it was cheap!

 ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on February 25, 2016, 08:45:26 PM
It'snly a 3 foot diameter pipe as well.  The Chunnel diameter is around 30 feet.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 25, 2016, 08:58:09 PM
I believe it is rock.  They may wait for a low water condition and drive right out with big excavators and rock drills and trench it.  They do have quite a flotilla of heavy equipment amassed.  Been watching them weld sections together and X-ray them.

No way could they directional drill under the river.  For one, the pipe diameter is too large and secondly, the span is too wide.

I also wonder what they are going to so at the US24 cloverleaf.  I think they are going to swing east toward downtown Maumee and cross by the hospital and come back to the freeway right of way....  I think.

It's interesting to watch, not only the preperations but the actual setting of the pipe.  I go by there many times during the week.

You're getting pretty close to Hull's Crossing.  I'm sure it was a long time native American river crossing because most of the year it was shallow enough to just walk across the river.

When they did our city water they had a big carbide toothed rotary cutter that was probably 24-30" wide.  They had to cut through the limestone which is more than likely what is at the bottom of both the Maumee River and the River Raisin. 

When they were 'trenching' with that it shook everything around.  Our basement sits right down on the rock and it shook the house so bad that the water heater sprung a leak right at the top.  It wasn't a real old water heater but it wasn't ancient either.  I'm sure it would have lasted another couple of years but that will be another advantage to hooking up the city water too. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on February 25, 2016, 09:06:14 PM
Don't know if thats Nexus or Rover but at some point it will go west a ways and then north into Michigan.  Both lines will cross somewhere west of our farm and east of Blissfield Highway (the Panhandle-Eastern pig insertion facility and emergency shutdown aparatus) is just east of Blissfield Highway and south of Holloway Road.  it will be somewhere right in there.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 25, 2016, 09:18:56 PM
Here's a bird's eye view of the river in that stretch:

Hulls Crossing - 091915 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPBMaSS9frE#)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on February 26, 2016, 07:25:38 AM
It'snly a 3 foot diameter pipe as well.  The Chunnel diameter is around 30 feet.

My only point....  where there is a will, and lots of money, there is a way.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 26, 2016, 09:07:58 AM
I see there is some little shop that has gone into the building at the south end of the Macomb Street bridge...

the one that was completely rebuilt over the last couple of years.

It looks similar to the place that is (maybe was) in the building on Monroe street at the south end of the bridge!

I didn't see a name but my wife said it looked like they had pottery for sale and it seems like that is what the place on Monroe street had...   was it maybe Julie's 'something'?

Took 75 north from exit 11 over the weekend...  don't go that way often...   especially with all the construction going on 75.  Drove by the wind tower place and there are literally dozens of tower pieces sitting out in their yard.  Looks like they have them all shrink wrapped for secure storage. 

Either they're all waiting for installation this spring or they're getting way ahead on inventory!

I wonder if this was one of their towers that came down a few days ago up in the thumb?

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2016/02/25/part-wind-turbine-falls/80938832/ (http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2016/02/25/part-wind-turbine-falls/80938832/)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on February 26, 2016, 03:51:12 PM
Here's a bird's eye view of the river in that stretch:

Hulls Crossing - 091915 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPBMaSS9frE#[/url])


I like the 'dubbed' in chopper blade sound.  Looks to me like a quad copter with a Go-Pro.  Nice pictures though.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 27, 2016, 07:50:42 AM
I like the 'dubbed' in chopper blade sound.  Looks to me like a quad copter with a Go-Pro.  Nice pictures though.

I wondered about the 'sound' as soon as I started the video. 

Actually, our son started with radio controlled helicopters way before quad-copters were popular and he's got a couple that would carry his Go-Pro camera. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 27, 2016, 10:16:28 AM
I like the 'dubbed' in chopper blade sound.  Looks to me like a quad copter with a Go-Pro.  Nice pictures though.

RC Phantom uses their own line of cameras...

with them everything is proprietary unless you do a lot of work to modify something...

not worth the effort when you can build your own for less and end up with higher quality overall.

This guy is relatively new to quad copters.  He was way too jerky with the remote control on his gimbal mounted camera. 

RC Phantom is kind of in between grade stuff...

better than entry level and you can buy it and fly it in an hour which is great for some people. 

The next typical step is 'build your own'  ;) ;) ;)

but that isn't for everyone either.

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on February 27, 2016, 08:10:18 PM
I'm interested and I'm not.  Way too much money to invest IMO.  I prefer guns.  At least they have a return on investment.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 27, 2016, 08:13:32 PM
I'm interested and I'm not.  Way too much money to invest IMO.  I prefer guns.  At least they have a return on investment.

In some cases and for some people there is certainly some income potential from the UAV...

unless you're riding shotgun on an armored truck a gun isn't going to give you that. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 28, 2016, 09:21:07 AM
I found out today that there is a pipeline that is just laid on the river bed and they are boring a replacement line so it is buried under the river.

I said Marathon but it might not be their line. There are Buckeye and Panhandle lines there too.


We're hearing plenty of concerns for these older pipelines but here's where they want to start using a 98 yr old line for crude oil.  The 'good news' is there is a plastic liner inside it and also that it's only a 5 inch diameter line...  that means that when it leaks it won't dump a large volume of crude into what will eventually end up in Lake Erie...

Maybe it will kill the algae :o :o :o

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2016/02/27/crude-oil-st-clair-river-pipeline/80995416/ (http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2016/02/27/crude-oil-st-clair-river-pipeline/80995416/)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on February 28, 2016, 10:26:12 AM
We're hearing plenty of concerns for these older pipelines but here's where they want to start using a 98 yr old line for crude oil.  The 'good news' is there is a plastic liner inside it and also that it's only a 5 inch diameter line...  that means that when it leaks it won't dump a large volume of crude into what will eventually end up in Lake Erie...

Maybe it will kill the algae :o :o :o

[url]http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2016/02/27/crude-oil-st-clair-river-pipeline/80995416/[/url] ([url]http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2016/02/27/crude-oil-st-clair-river-pipeline/80995416/[/url])

Played golf with a few up and coming millionaires in Florida -   One made his in Scrap metal to China,  the other was telling us how they have a patent on a technique to re-line old pipelines of all diameters - and they are working on a fix for places like "Flint"...  and many many other areas around the world... 

Interesting to listen to them talk - and reminded me of the power of networking and it takes money to make money
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on February 28, 2016, 03:16:40 PM
In some cases and for some people there is certainly some income potential from the UAV...

unless you're riding shotgun on an armored truck a gun isn't going to give you that.

Not exactly correct but I'll leave it go for now.....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on February 28, 2016, 03:20:59 PM
We're hearing plenty of concerns for these older pipelines but here's where they want to start using a 98 yr old line for crude oil.  The 'good news' is there is a plastic liner inside it and also that it's only a 5 inch diameter line...  that means that when it leaks it won't dump a large volume of crude into what will eventually end up in Lake Erie...

Maybe it will kill the algae :o :o :o

[url]http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2016/02/27/crude-oil-st-clair-river-pipeline/80995416/[/url] ([url]http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2016/02/27/crude-oil-st-clair-river-pipeline/80995416/[/url])


It's not the diameter of the transmission line, it's the pressure exerted that determines flow rate.  Smaller diameter lines typically run at a much higher static pressure than a large diameter line.  It's physics.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on March 01, 2016, 08:19:01 PM
It's not the diameter of the transmission line, it's the pressure exerted that determines flow rate.  Smaller diameter lines typically run at a much higher static pressure than a large diameter line.  It's physics.

I had a prof whose favorite saying was Everything is Physics and Physics is Everything - and he was RIGHT.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on March 02, 2016, 07:17:47 AM
It's not the diameter of the transmission line, it's the pressure exerted that determines flow rate.  Smaller diameter lines typically run at a much higher static pressure than a large diameter line.  It's physics.

But when they're running at a higher pressure then their sensors can figure out much quicker that there has been a 'drop' in pressure and therefore most likely a 'leak'!!! 

While the 60 (or 92) yr old pipe hasn't gotten any stronger over the years the rest of the technology has grown by leaps and bounds.  Interesting that the pipeline companies 'claim' they can shut down a line with just a few gallons of leakage...

but then you see what actually happened with the Enbridge leak over by Kalamazoo...   major leakage!!!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on March 02, 2016, 10:07:14 AM
I found out today that there is a pipeline that is just laid on the river bed and they are boring a replacement line so it is buried under the river.

I said Marathon but it might not be their line. There are Buckeye and Panhandle lines there too.


Article online at the MonroeNews website today and it says Marathon for sure!!!

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160302/pipeline-work-begins-under-river-raisin (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160302/pipeline-work-begins-under-river-raisin)

We M-50 back from Dundee on Friday to the dog pound to buy our dog licenses.  Then on into Monroe and saw all the equipment 'staged' just west of Raisinville Road.

(http://www.monroenews.com/storyimage/MI/20160302/NEWS/160309813/AR/0/AR-160309813.jpg&MaxW=650)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on March 02, 2016, 01:48:35 PM
I had a prof whose favorite saying was Everything is Physics and Physics is Everything - and he was RIGHT.
Mine used to say Physics is Phun... or Holy Entropy!   and he made it fun to learn - as it finally showed me why I learned all that other stuff in all the other science and math classes...   
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on March 02, 2016, 02:20:29 PM
It was my first Physics class that made all the previous mathematic classes make sense!  Loved Physics.......still will make fluids and dynamics calculations at work even though I don't have to.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on March 02, 2016, 05:48:50 PM
Article online at the MonroeNews website today and it says Marathon for sure!!!

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160302/pipeline-work-begins-under-river-raisin[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160302/pipeline-work-begins-under-river-raisin[/url])

We M-50 back from Dundee on Friday to the dog pound to buy our dog licenses.  Then on into Monroe and saw all the equipment 'staged' just west of Raisinville Road.

([url]http://www.monroenews.com/storyimage/MI/20160302/NEWS/160309813/AR/0/AR-160309813.jpg&MaxW=650[/url])

So if you pay attention, they are going to weld a 1500 ft section of pipe together on the south side of the river. They are going to bore under the river through solid rock from the North side to a pit on the south side. When the boring machine reaches the south side they will attach the premade 1500 ft section to the boring machine and pull it back under the river where they will connect it to the existing line. I meant to get a picture of the drilling head as it was sitting in the field on Monday.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on March 02, 2016, 08:13:44 PM
It was my first Physics class that made all the previous mathematic classes make sense!  Loved Physics.......still will make fluids and dynamics calculations at work even though I don't have to.

Physics made Calculus make sense to me.

Until then I just didn't see what the heck I had to bother learning that for.

I wish they would have taught them co-jointly.  I would have paid more attention in Calc if we would have been applying it to physics problems as we learned it.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on March 03, 2016, 08:34:04 AM
So if you pay attention, they are going to weld a 1500 ft section of pipe together on the south side of the river. They are going to bore under the river through solid rock from the North side to a pit on the south side. When the boring machine reaches the south side they will attach the premade 1500 ft section to the boring machine and pull it back under the river where they will connect it to the existing line. I meant to get a picture of the drilling head as it was sitting in the field on Monday.

That would be interesting to watch them do that 'pull'. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on March 03, 2016, 02:47:30 PM
Physics made Calculus make sense to me.

Until then I just didn't see what the heck I had to bother learning that for.

I wish they would have taught them co-jointly.  I would have paid more attention in Calc if we would have been applying it to physics problems as we learned it.

Yup.....that was what I was talking about with the Mathematics classes (including Differential Equations and Calculus).  The word problems at the end of the chapters in the math classes didn't dabble enough in the physics applications.  Probably would have made more sense to me too.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 03, 2016, 07:28:28 PM
Don't take a math whiz to notice the growing number of craters in the roadway.  FYI, there is a HUGE / DEEP one on the bridge deck cpming out og P'Burg towards Deerfield.  It has to be clear through.  I didn't stop to see if I could see the river...  but I bet you can.

That bridge is on the Federal Government list for replacement.  It's real bad.  I imagine the load limit will be lowered soon and/or will be closed to traffic.  That nwill really put a crimp on Stevens Disposal for sure.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 03, 2016, 07:32:04 PM
Article online at the MonroeNews website today and it says Marathon for sure!!!

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160302/pipeline-work-begins-under-river-raisin[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160302/pipeline-work-begins-under-river-raisin[/url])

We M-50 back from Dundee on Friday to the dog pound to buy our dog licenses.  Then on into Monroe and saw all the equipment 'staged' just west of Raisinville Road.

([url]http://www.monroenews.com/storyimage/MI/20160302/NEWS/160309813/AR/0/AR-160309813.jpg&MaxW=650[/url])


Cute little side boom.  I like the ones that Hulker uses for derailments better.  About 3 times that size.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on March 04, 2016, 07:15:17 AM
Don't take a math whiz to notice the growing number of craters in the roadway.  FYI, there is a HUGE / DEEP one on the bridge deck cpming out og P'Burg towards Deerfield.  It has to be clear through.  I didn't stop to see if I could see the river...  but I bet you can.

That bridge is on the Federal Government list for replacement.  It's real bad.  I imagine the load limit will be lowered soon and/or will be closed to traffic.  That nwill really put a crimp on Stevens Disposal for sure.

No problem.

The state fixed road funding.

Great things are coming.

Just you wait.... and wait.... and wait.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on March 08, 2016, 07:09:47 AM
Don't know if thats Nexus or Rover but at some point it will go west a ways and then north into Michigan.  Both lines will cross somewhere west of our farm and east of Blissfield Highway (the Panhandle-Eastern pig insertion facility and emergency shutdown aparatus) is just east of Blissfield Highway and south of Holloway Road.  it will be somewhere right in there.


They were meeting about a compressor station down in Waterville.  I can see not wanting one in my back yard!

http://www.13abc.com/home/headlines/Community-to-learn-more-about-Nexus-Pipeline-Monday-371246341.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_13abc&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter_13abc (http://www.13abc.com/home/headlines/Community-to-learn-more-about-Nexus-Pipeline-Monday-371246341.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_13abc&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter_13abc)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on March 08, 2016, 12:10:39 PM
It looks like after they're about to demolish the old Economy Inn on N. Dixie.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: arpydave on March 08, 2016, 12:27:45 PM
Really? Do you mean the old Howard Johnsons?

If so, I have many stories that involve that place.  :-X And more than a few memories.  8*
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on March 08, 2016, 01:08:24 PM
It looks like after they're about to demolish the old Economy Inn on N. Dixie.

We commented a few days ago as we drove by that the place was looking pretty desolate!!!

Really? Do you mean the old Howard Johnsons?

If so, I have many stories that involve that place.  :-X And more than a few memories.  8*

We took the kids there on New Years exactly 26 years ago this past New Years.  We'd just had our youngest daughter so a Florida trip had to be put off for a few months. 

I don't remember if it was still HoJo's at the time or not?

Might be a good history question...

what all names has that motel existed under?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: arpydave on March 08, 2016, 05:25:43 PM
We commented a few days ago as we drove by that the place was looking pretty desolate!!!

We took the kids there on New Years exactly 26 years ago this past New Years.  We'd just had our youngest daughter so a Florida trip had to be put off for a few months. 

I don't remember if it was still HoJo's at the time or not?

Might be a good history question...

what all names has that motel existed under?


Yeah, I think at that time it was still HoJo's. Even if they had divested the restaurant portion out. Even following the Christmas Day '93 turbine failure and all the specialty out of town tech's straying there in '94 it was referred to as HoJo's, whether it was or not.

They had a nice little bar with a pool table that during Outages they opened early for the night shifters, complete with a view of the indoor pool. A couple of stories revolve around all that.  :-X

1994 was a pretty intense time in my life, both at work and after. "Work hard, play harder." The one front desk guy even offered to give me a second key to room 213, the gal registered had authorized it. I never went into work tired as I'd already been to bed during the day.  ;)

We even pooled our money and rented out the reception hall one morning for an, umm, bachelor party. Certain people that have heard of that "legend" still mention it time to time. Those of us in the know still do the Hogan's Heroes imitation of Sgt. Schultz. "I know nuzzinck!"  8)

Now that I'm divorced I can fess up to many of these things. But I won't mention by name your neighbor, your wife's BFF, the gal running the cash register or that gal on the bowling league. But you'd likely be VERY surprised. Especially at deer hunting season or local plant shutdowns, when hubby is keeping himself entertained or busy and she decides she's tired of being bored.  :D

www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NaQxUEfxt0&ebc=ANyPxKrFSZys0po1fUMyTKpzhtnQfr--uoB6kiVnH3u1HNVac2mJ_TvRsffcEUjD-lSg0xjNyL8gsYZkTV5t23ezCghkQ_bBsQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NaQxUEfxt0&ebc=ANyPxKrFSZys0po1fUMyTKpzhtnQfr--uoB6kiVnH3u1HNVac2mJ_TvRsffcEUjD-lSg0xjNyL8gsYZkTV5t23ezCghkQ_bBsQ#)


And notice the names on the blackboard behind them Note: perhaps NSFW, some language www.youtube.com/watch?v=On73aHpgdSQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On73aHpgdSQ#)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on March 08, 2016, 06:40:55 PM
My wife used to work at HoJo's in 1979 and it was quite a place. They had regulars that came every week. They would fill several rooms and spend all night switching around from room to room. They had little codes on the doors so their people knew what was going on inside. I seem to remember them called Toledo Dancers and ???? Swingers, etc. Was also a lot of gay groups there.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on March 08, 2016, 07:15:52 PM
Your comment reminded me of a time in Heath Oh where I would stayed when I visited one of our plants.  One time the desk lady called and ask if I'd switch rooms. An old guy would occasionally shack up with his lady friend from the area and they always used the room I was in. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on March 08, 2016, 07:45:57 PM
I remember and still make HoJo's. One of my favorite deep fried foods.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on March 08, 2016, 08:03:30 PM
HoJo was big around here and all of east coast. Maybe morr
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on March 09, 2016, 12:24:41 AM
When we moved here in '83 the restaurant at Alexis and Telegraph was either still a HoJo's or had just changed names because lot's of people in Toledo still referred to that way.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on March 12, 2016, 10:16:57 PM
When we moved here in '83 the restaurant at Alexis and Telegraph was either still a HoJo's or had just changed names because lot's of people in Toledo still referred to that way.

Which corner would that be?
Back in 1976 the Ground Round was on the North-East corner.
The guys from LaZBoy went there a lot.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on March 13, 2016, 04:07:21 AM
Which corner would that be?
Back in 1976 the Ground Round was on the North-East corner.
The guys from LaZBoy went there a lot.

Yes, it was the Ground Round!

I'd very often get their blue cheese covered burger called 'The Blue Blitz'!!!

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on March 13, 2016, 07:09:17 AM
I don't know What happened to the Ground Round. I think right up until they closed it was a busy place.  I loved to go there
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 13, 2016, 10:00:43 AM
When we moved here in '83 the restaurant at Alexis and Telegraph was either still a HoJo's or had just changed names because lot's of people in Toledo still referred to that way.

I fondly remember all the 'Sambo's ther were everywhere and then changed overnight to 'Denny's'.  Same bad coffee, different name.....lol.  I guess the name 'Sambo' was to ethnic....lol

'PC' was in it's infancy in the 60's but alive anyway.....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on March 13, 2016, 10:53:41 AM
I fondly remember all the 'Sambo's ther were everywhere and then changed overnight to 'Denny's'.  Same bad coffee, different name.....lol.  I guess the name 'Sambo' was to ethnic....lol

'PC' was in it's infancy in the 60's but alive anyway.....

There's been one form or another of PC since the founding fathers first got together!  It's just been moving faster as the world 'shrinks'.

The two founders always claimed their restaurant name wasn't intended to be 'racist' and that they were only using parts of their combined names.  But...

wouldn't BoSams have worked? 

Seems to be working for the haircut place (BoRics).

I recall hearing about the one in A2 changing it's name to 'The Happy Tiger'...   anyone know where that was located and if the building is still there?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on March 14, 2016, 12:03:24 AM
 2080 W. Stadium,    Now Holiday's Restaurant.

(http://www.aadl.org/files/imagecache/800_width/photos/a2signs_1480.jpg)

(https://s.yimg.com/fz/api/res/1.2/onlSnpDDlNivdC4xscynPw--/YXBwaWQ9c3JjaGRkO2g9NDUwO3E9OTU7dz02MDE-/http://imgick.mlive.com/home/mlive-media/pgmain/img/ann-arbor_photos/photo/18117210-standard.jpg)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on March 14, 2016, 12:14:51 AM
I fondly remember all the 'Sambo's ther were everywhere and then changed overnight to 'Denny's'.  Same bad coffee, different name.....lol.  I guess the name 'Sambo' was to ethnic....lol

'PC' was in it's infancy in the 60's but alive anyway.....

I remember it was where Denny's is now. My dad worked there as a cook. I remember the restaurant sold and the named changed. People said it was racist. I think my sister still has the stuffed tiger she got from the manager?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on March 14, 2016, 08:28:32 AM
2080 W. Stadium,    Now Holiday's Restaurant.

([url]http://www.aadl.org/files/imagecache/800_width/photos/a2signs_1480.jpg[/url])

([url]https://s.yimg.com/fz/api/res/1.2/onlSnpDDlNivdC4xscynPw--/YXBwaWQ9c3JjaGRkO2g9NDUwO3E9OTU7dz02MDE-/http://imgick.mlive.com/home/mlive-media/pgmain/img/ann-arbor_photos/photo/18117210-standard.jpg[/url])


Interesting.  I rarely get out on W. Stadium but have to go to A2 later this week so maybe we'll go for lunch!

Looking at the 'old' photo of the Jolly Tiger I would have almost thought it was a gentleman's club of some sort.

When I first moved down here for work one of the first places I went to do a service call was at the Jolly Roger sailing club in Point Place.

And I 'heard' about the Jolly Trolley Gentleman's Club in Toledo that was open at the time ;) ;) ;)

I guess there's Jolly for more than just Santa Claus 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on March 14, 2016, 08:35:25 AM
We were on our way to Toledo yesterday afternoon.  Needed to go to Advance Auto on Alexis so we took Telegraph.  Don't go that way real often (usually go either Lewis or the Dixie) so was very surprised to see a huge white cross on the back side of the railroad tracks across from the La Fiesta restaurant.  It's not one of those 200' tall ones but I'll bet it's pushing 20'.  It kind of surprised me plus I needed to get to the parts store before they closed so I didn't stop to take a picture. 

Must be someone is trying to get the diners at La Fiesta some religion...

maybe they should have put it down across from Alcatraz ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 14, 2016, 10:07:31 AM
The one in Dundee is closer and the sales tax is less.  I'll have to check out the cross when I go into the shop, I go that way....

Dundee is going ftom the 'Hub of the Highway' to the Hub of the Auto Parts Stores...  You have Advanced Auto Parts, O'Riely's Auto Parts, M50 Auto Parts and the NAPA store by the old fire hall.

I guess there is a big need for auto parts in Dundee.... 8*
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 14, 2016, 10:09:32 AM
Still....Rock Auto beats them all, hands down, even factoring in shipping.  If I can wait a couple days, it's Rock Auto.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on March 14, 2016, 10:30:38 AM
Bedford is as bad, duplicating everything that you find on Alexis road. 
I rarely see more than a couple of cars in any of the places. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 14, 2016, 10:41:54 AM
Considering how bad the roads are in this county and how bad people drive on them, I suspect all the parts stores sell tons of suspension parts and shops spend gobs of time fixing them as well.

Like our 2 track out front, craters the size of toilet bowls and yet idiots still go 55+.  It's amazing how much a modern suspension will take at the hands of an idiot driver and survive....sort of.

Why I bought my off lease buggy outside Monroe County.  I'd never buy anything used around here.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on March 14, 2016, 12:20:56 PM
The one in Dundee is closer and the sales tax is less.  I'll have to check out the cross when I go into the shop, I go that way....

Dundee is going ftom the 'Hub of the Highway' to the Hub of the Auto Parts Stores...  You have Advanced Auto Parts, O'Riely's Auto Parts, M50 Auto Parts and the NAPA store by the old fire hall.

I guess there is a big need for auto parts in Dundee.... 8*

We were commenting on all the auto parts stores in Dundee when we were over there.

The Advance Auto store in Dundee may be closer to you but not to us...

there is one in Monroe that is just about the same distance to the one on Alexis...

but we were already on our way to Toledo for dinner so what I would have saved on sales tax would have more than been offset by what it cost in fuel to drive it!!!

I was getting a set of front and rear brake pads.  They were squealing a little a couple of days ago.  I pulled the wheels and looked and they look better than 50% but I thought I'd take them with me and then if I need them on the way I'll have them with me.  I've spent some time in Jellico looking for parts and prefer not to do it again.

What I did find was a little rust right at the outer diameter of the left front rotor.  I knocked it off with a little crocus cloth.  When we're in FL I'll pull the fronts and take them to the brake guy I know and have him take a light cut off them. 

Premium pads front and rear for $89 including the higher sales tax... 

how far could I have driven to save that 'extra tax'?

Yes, I usually prefer getting my stuff from Rock Auto but in this case I really don't have time to wait. 

Besides...   I've got to help pay for all those smooth roads I enjoy in Ohio ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on March 25, 2016, 05:56:02 PM
There is a brand spanking new culvert and entrance pans (Installed by Dave Hoffman, thanks Dave, you are one helluva County Comissioner) on the corner of Bragg Road and Deerfield Highway, east of the River bridge.  Even has new guardrails.

Great job not orchestrated by the MCRC....lol

I'm sure they are pizzed off about it.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on March 25, 2016, 09:14:19 PM
There is a brand spanking new culvert and entrance pans (Installed by Dave Hoffman, thanks Dave, you are one helluva County Comissioner) on the corner of Bragg Road and Deerfield Highway, east of the River bridge.  Even has new guardrails.

Great job not orchestrated by the MCRC....lol

I'm sure they are pizzed off about it.

They're probably all still too busy cleaning up after the fire to have time to do any road work over there ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on April 26, 2016, 03:05:37 PM
I was really curious why they took the nice white shutoff valve down from the Oil pipeline on N. Custer...    I guess it made too much sense?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on April 26, 2016, 09:26:08 PM
Prof,
What do you meen ?
Theyre replacing it with a bigger one. The old one is back off the road a ways and looks pretty small. The new one is way bigger. They aren't done yet but getting close.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on April 27, 2016, 08:17:15 AM
Not exactly a new business but a new location!

http://www.serendipitousvintage.com/ (http://www.serendipitousvintage.com/)

I just refer to it as 'Serendipity' but the above link gives all their info...

They had been on S. Monroe street just south of Front and now they've moved down to E. Front where the game place was that moved to S. Monroe! 

Not sure if they just moved but it's the first I've seen them. 

In the same building now as Magnum Force.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 27, 2016, 10:03:24 AM
Even though the culvert has been replaced at Dennison Road and P'burg / Deerfield Road for a month now, the 'detour' signs posted by the MCRC remain in place....

Guess they are too busy to remove them...... ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on April 27, 2016, 12:19:19 PM
Not exactly a new business but a new location!

[url]http://www.serendipitousvintage.com/[/url] ([url]http://www.serendipitousvintage.com/[/url])

I just refer to it as 'Serendipity' but the above link gives all their info...

They had been on S. Monroe street just south of Front and now they've moved down to E. Front where the game place was that moved to S. Monroe! 

Not sure if they just moved but it's the first I've seen them. 

In the same building now as Magnum Force.


I think they may have made a mistake, lot less traffic down there.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on April 27, 2016, 12:22:41 PM
Prof,
What do you meen ?
Theyre replacing it with a bigger one. The old one is back off the road a ways and looks pretty small. The new one is way bigger. They aren't done yet but getting close.

It was Attached a while back - and now is sitting on the ground again...    Unless that raised spot near the road isn't the spot they are going to add it?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on April 27, 2016, 12:44:54 PM
I'm curious who monitors or runs the roadside waste pick up -  I'm seeing around the County,
and if they even know the meaning of a "RED" waste bag?   

Red bagged waste is generally reserved for Medical waste - and costs much much more to dispose of!!

========================================================
Twenty-four years after the Medical Waste Tracking Act prompted the passing of state medical waste regulations, red bags are still being filled with trash.
http://blog.sharpsinc.com/whats-going-into-that-red-bag (http://blog.sharpsinc.com/whats-going-into-that-red-bag)

You may have seen some red-colored ‘trash bags’. These bags are made not because of novelty – they are red medical waste disposal bags specially made to contain medical or biohazardous waste. Though some medical facilities use bags of other colors, red bags are universally preferred lining containers for reusable medical waste disposal bins. The red color is designed to warn health personnel and waste disposal workers that the trash bag contains medical waste.

http://www.usbioclean.com/red-medical-waste-disposal-bags/ (http://www.usbioclean.com/red-medical-waste-disposal-bags/)

Can there be substitutes for the labels?
Yes. Red bags or red containers may be substituted for the biohazard labels.
http://www.hercenter.org/rmw/osha-bps.cfm (http://www.hercenter.org/rmw/osha-bps.cfm)

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on April 27, 2016, 02:37:54 PM
I'm curious who monitors or runs the roadside waste pick up -  I'm seeing around the County,
and if they even know the meaning of a "RED" waste bag?   

Red bagged waste is generally reserved for Medical waste - and costs much much more to dispose of!!



A phone call or visit to the MCRC office may or may not get you an answer.

We (my business) do a section of state highway through the MDOT Adopt A Highway program.  Local roads are also available (we haven't done one but may look into it in the future) through the MCRC Adopt A Road program.

With the MDOT program all the paperwork and co-ordination is done through MDOT with the exception of issuing the bags and fluorescent safety vests...   that all comes from the MCRC office. 

Here's a picture (one I found online, not us!) showing the 'correct' bags for MDOT along with the sexy safety vests:

(http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/wfnt.com/files/2013/04/Adopt-A-Highway-Facebook-630x418.jpg)

I saw the red bags along Telegraph down around Sterns on Monday and kind of wondered where they came from too.


And if anyone wants to spend a few hours out picking up trash with us along the highway there are two more pickups scheduled for this year yet ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 27, 2016, 04:03:06 PM
A phone call or visit to the MCRC office may or may not get you an answer.

We (my business) do a section of state highway through the MDOT Adopt A Highway program.  Local roads are also available (we haven't done one but may look into it in the future) through the MCRC Adopt A Road program.

With the MDOT program all the paperwork and co-ordination is done through MDOT with the exception of issuing the bags and fluorescent safety vests...   that all comes from the MCRC office. 

Here's a picture (one I found online, not us!) showing the 'correct' bags for MDOT along with the sexy safety vests:

([url]http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/wfnt.com/files/2013/04/Adopt-A-Highway-Facebook-630x418.jpg[/url])

I saw the red bags along Telegraph down around Sterns on Monday and kind of wondered where they came from too.


And if anyone wants to spend a few hours out picking up trash with us along the highway there are two more pickups scheduled for this year yet ;) ;) ;)


Got to see them at work on Monday.  A Monroe County Sherriff van was overseeing the detail of prisoners picking up litter....  probably got a deal on the off color bags....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on April 27, 2016, 05:22:55 PM
It was Attached a while back - and now is sitting on the ground again...    Unless that raised spot near the road isn't the spot they are going to add it?
Its on a pallet tried to a telephone pole so it doesn't fall on someone. They are getting ready to connect the bypass pipe and new valve. I watched them air test the new section under the river the other day. Massive air compressor.
They replaced the old line under the river but didn't have room where the old one was so the put a big bend in to go west a ways before going under the river. I think the new valve will be some ways off the road again probably so a less than sober driver can't get into the field that far even if they tried.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on April 27, 2016, 09:50:48 PM
Got to see them at work on Monday.  A Monroe County Sherriff van was overseeing the detail of prisoners picking up litter....  probably got a deal on the off color bags....

Was that on Telegraph in the Sterns Road stretch that you saw them working?

We had gone to Toledo Sunday evening and I sure didn't see all those red bags along Telegraph.  Then we went again Monday afternoon and we even commented that they really had a lot of bags out compared to what we had picked up the day before.  But I also noticed the bags were red and smaller and that they didn't fill them as full as we do.

What I couldn't figure out is 'when' they had done their pickup.  The MDOT program was technically supposed to be done by Sunday evening but I suppose they waive that if it's inmate labor doing it.

I wonder if they get 'community service' hours for doing roadside litter pickup ??? ??? ???

Question for the professor...

is that the same stretch you noticed the red bags?

Maybe they are only used by the MCSD for inmate pickup :-\
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on April 27, 2016, 09:57:32 PM
Its on a pallet tried to a telephone pole so it doesn't fall on someone. They are getting ready to connect the bypass pipe and new valve. I watched them air test the new section under the river the other day. Massive air compressor.
They replaced the old line under the river but didn't have room where the old one was so the put a big bend in to go west a ways before going under the river. I think the new valve will be some ways off the road again probably so a less than sober driver can't get into the field that far even if they tried.

Seems like I recall a certain 'individual' that has hit a few 'objects' along that stretch over the years
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on April 27, 2016, 10:13:55 PM
That's probably not a short list.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on April 28, 2016, 12:50:46 PM


Question for the professor...

is that the same stretch you noticed the red bags?

Maybe they are only used by the MCSD for inmate pickup :-\

I actually saw a lot on Dunbar between Telegraph and Raisinville - which made me wonder about the use of Red Bags and what disposal company was taking the risk of accepting them! 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on April 28, 2016, 01:48:52 PM
I actually saw a lot on Dunbar between Telegraph and Raisinville - which made me wonder about the use of Red Bags and what disposal company was taking the risk of accepting them!

As far as I know the MCRC picks them up...

at least for the MDOT adoption program and I would further assume they would for their own adopt a road (which is what Dunbar would be).  Anyone know if that stretch was done with inmate participation? 

Maybe all the red trash bags were something found in a 'bust' somewhere so they were confiscated and are now being used ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 28, 2016, 07:34:08 PM
Was that on Telegraph in the Sterns Road stretch that you saw them working?

We had gone to Toledo Sunday evening and I sure didn't see all those red bags along Telegraph.  Then we went again Monday afternoon and we even commented that they really had a lot of bags out compared to what we had picked up the day before.  But I also noticed the bags were red and smaller and that they didn't fill them as full as we do.

What I couldn't figure out is 'when' they had done their pickup.  The MDOT program was technically supposed to be done by Sunday evening but I suppose they waive that if it's inmate labor doing it.

I wonder if they get 'community service' hours for doing roadside litter pickup ??? ??? ???

Question for the professor...

is that the same stretch you noticed the red bags?

Maybe they are only used by the MCSD for inmate pickup :-\

I saw them (and the van), just north of Sterns about 3/4 mile. north
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on April 29, 2016, 08:40:44 AM
So...

by deduction it appears we've been able to determine:

The red bags appeared on both county roads and at least one stretch of state highway.

Inmates were observed picking up in the stretch of state highway where the red bags were also observed.

So, the stretch of Dunbar where the red bags were observed may have been picked up by inmates too ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on April 29, 2016, 01:16:21 PM
Shame that the agencies probably have no "Clue" as to the issues with the use of Red Bags for other than medical waste...   until someone hits them with a medical waste disposal fee!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on April 29, 2016, 01:33:10 PM
Shame that the agencies probably have no "Clue" as to the issues with the use of Red Bags for other than medical waste...   until someone hits them with a medical waste disposal fee!

I 'assume' the MCRC loads all the bags along with the tires and mattresses (we even found a screen door) that are common along the roads into a dump truck and takes it to one of the landfills...  or maybe they have a dumpster back at their office...

Interesting that in the last couple of days in Toledo they've been looking for a black pickup that was caught on surveillance going into one of the cemeteries down there and dropping off 'medical waste'...

caught them because you could see the red trash bags in the back of the truck!!!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on April 30, 2016, 07:34:02 AM
Well Mav - You were right they were putting the shut off valve back on after pressure testing it seemed...   
I guess the telephone pole will discourage someone from driving directly to the valve from N. Raisinville...  and the (whatever fence) they put up will slow down those on N. Custer.    It is much closer to the road than the original.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on May 10, 2016, 07:14:05 AM
I think they may have made a mistake, lot less traffic down there.

Not as much traffic but there is parking at the door! 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on May 10, 2016, 07:15:35 AM
The new 'entrance' at Highhights is looking a lot different!!! 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 10, 2016, 12:47:22 PM
Some new potholes have 'appeared' on Ida Center between Wells and Summerfield Road, not that it's all that smooth anyway.  The are really deep in the westbound side.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on May 16, 2016, 09:50:30 AM
A big excavator ripping apart the front row of units on the old Knights Inn...

there were dumpsters sitting kind of close to the next row so I'm guessing they may be tearing down the whole complex!

Anyone know for sure?

Drove on over the 75 overpass and saw the straw covered 'field' where the former Economy Inn (among other names) had been.

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on May 16, 2016, 12:22:40 PM
A big excavator ripping apart the front row of units on the old Knights Inn...

there were dumpsters sitting kind of close to the next row so I'm guessing they may be tearing down the whole complex!

Anyone know for sure?

Drove on over the 75 overpass and saw the straw covered 'field' where the former Economy Inn (among other names) had been.

Just the first row.

A Taco Bell is going in.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on May 16, 2016, 02:05:20 PM
Just the first row.

A Taco Bell is going in.

Maybe all the heroin addicts will move to the new Taco Bell parking lot then...

I'll bet there will be a huge fence up real fast!!!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on May 16, 2016, 08:57:52 PM
Actually the City thought there should be screening between the Taco Bell and Hotel, but the Hotel and Developer disagreed, so no fence - just an open parking lot for the Heroin addicts to wander across.

They argued that the two businesses would feed off each other.

Hard to argue with that I guess.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 16, 2016, 10:15:23 PM
A big excavator ripping apart the front row of units on the old Knights Inn...

there were dumpsters sitting kind of close to the next row so I'm guessing they may be tearing down the whole complex!

Anyone know for sure?

Drove on over the 75 overpass and saw the straw covered 'field' where the former Economy Inn (among other names) had been.

Probably don't take much to demo them, aren't they all pre-fab?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 16, 2016, 10:17:45 PM
Lewis was milled and now is getting capped.  Another stretch of smooth road with crap roads on each end....

I see 151 is developing cracks.  Bet it don't last 5 years.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on May 16, 2016, 11:01:16 PM
A big excavator ripping apart the front row of units on the old Knights Inn...

there were dumpsters sitting kind of close to the next row so I'm guessing they may be tearing down the whole complex!

Anyone know for sure?

Drove on over the 75 overpass and saw the straw covered 'field' where the former Economy Inn (among other names) had been.


Maybe the last fire did enough damages they had to bring it up to code? 

Impossible to do - as they were crappy construction to begin with
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on May 23, 2016, 02:53:41 PM
Actually the City thought there should be screening between the Taco Bell and Hotel, but the Hotel and Developer disagreed, so no fence - just an open parking lot for the Heroin addicts to wander across.

They argued that the two businesses would feed off each other.

Hard to argue with that I guess.
Now marijuana - yes I could see - but I don't think Heroin Addicts use anything but the restrooms at these fast food places
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on May 23, 2016, 02:56:48 PM
Saw an interesting sign - the orange portable ones usually marking men working ahead...  but this one said Burning in proximity.    I suspect to keep people from calling the Fire Department.

It was on Plank road as I was heading back into Monroe -
Never saw any "burning" however.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on May 24, 2016, 08:01:54 AM
Saw an interesting sign - the orange portable ones usually marking men working ahead...  but this one said Burning in proximity.    I suspect to keep people from calling the Fire Department.

It was on Plank road as I was heading back into Monroe -
Never saw any "burning" however.

I've seen signs like that when the DNR is burning some of the invasive grasses down along Lake Erie in Erie Township.  I'm not aware of any big parcels the DNR would be involved in up in that area but you never know.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on May 24, 2016, 12:22:17 PM
Saw an interesting sign - the orange portable ones usually marking men working ahead...  but this one said Burning in proximity.    I suspect to keep people from calling the Fire Department.

It was on Plank road as I was heading back into Monroe -
Never saw any "burning" however.

Perhaps it was meant that County workers were "burning" a doobie ahead.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on May 24, 2016, 12:31:34 PM
Perhaps it was meant that County workers were "burning" a doobie ahead.

If they put up signs for that - they would run out of signs quickly.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on May 29, 2016, 10:03:29 AM
Had to go out on N. Dixie yesterday so we jumped on 75 and got off at the exit to avoid 'downtown' Monroe.  The sign post is still standing and advertising rooms for the motel they tore down.  There are also several piles of what looks like gravel piled at the back corner of the lot. 

Across the street the new sports bar is looking nice on the outside.  No signage out yet yet though.  The lot where the front row of rooms for the Knight's Inn was has all the excavation and underground work going in for the new Taco Bell. 

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 29, 2016, 04:37:06 PM
Another Taco Smell, how exciting.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on May 29, 2016, 04:52:42 PM
Another Taco Smell, how exciting.

That will put one at Nadeau Rd, N. Dixie and Laplaisance plus the one on Telegraph!!!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 29, 2016, 08:18:10 PM
That will put one at Nadeau Rd, N. Dixie and Laplaisance plus the one on Telegraph!!!

That is lots of bland pseudo Mexican food.  Never warmed up to Taco Smell at all.  There is one in Dumbdee too.  Never patronized the place, not going to either.

Like McDees.  Expensive food and plastic dining room.  I'll pass.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on May 29, 2016, 08:55:33 PM
The wife liked TB's Mexican pizzas once in awhile.  Something looked kind of good on the board so I ordered for myself. I've never had such rotgut food..
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on May 29, 2016, 11:00:09 PM
I used to really like hot Mex, real hot.  I would eat Habs and Jalopeno peppers straight up, no chaser, no bread, nothing.  I remember going to Chi-Chi's and ordering their hottest hot sauce and drinking it...was like sofa pop.

Can't do that anymore, my gut won't take it.  Too old I guess.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on June 01, 2016, 02:18:26 PM
While not new I often wonder why some places that appear to be a business don't put up any advertising at all...    N. Custer  west of Ida Maybee rd there are a few large metal buildings - one is Blue and white and next to it some large yellow colored metal buildings - no clue as to what they are there for - as no signage to give a name...   too fancy for just a storage barn.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 01, 2016, 02:26:55 PM
While not new I often wonder why some places that appear to be a business don't put up any advertising at all...    N. Custer  west of Ida Maybee rd there are a few large metal buildings - one is Blue and white and next to it some large yellow colored metal buildings - no clue as to what they are there for - as no signage to give a name...   too fancy for just a storage barn.

I think they do some kind of manufacturing in there but not sure.

At one time it was some kind of aerial maintenance business but I think they did all the upgrading after they left.

I'll check some sources or maybe Mav will see this and weigh in!

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on June 01, 2016, 05:36:12 PM
I don't remember the name but they did maintenance on towers and built towers too. He bought that property and built/rehabbed them then immediately outgrew it and bought the old Franks nursery on M-50. Before he could use those buildings he bought a building in Dundee ( Diamond Electric ?? )big enough for him to Hot dip galvanize his tower parts.
He is still actively spending tons of money on all three properties so galvanizing towers must be good business.
Mav
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 01, 2016, 11:09:00 PM
I don't remember the name but they did maintenance on towers and built towers too. He bought that property and built/rehabbed them then immediately outgrew it and bought the old Franks nursery on M-50. Before he could use those buildings he bought a building in Dundee ( Diamond Electric ?? )big enough for him to Hot dip galvanize his tower parts.
He is still actively spending tons of money on all three properties so galvanizing towers must be good business.
Mav

You sure it's not escalators? instead of towers?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on June 01, 2016, 11:15:51 PM
I am not sure at all what he does.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 02, 2016, 07:58:48 AM
You sure it's not escalators? instead of towers?


It's towers...  communication towers all over the US and some overseas work too.

I don't remember the name but they did maintenance on towers and built towers too. He bought that property and built/rehabbed them then immediately outgrew it and bought the old Franks nursery on M-50. Before he could use those buildings he bought a building in Dundee ( Diamond Electric ?? )big enough for him to Hot dip galvanize his tower parts.
He is still actively spending tons of money on all three properties so galvanizing towers must be good business.
Mav


Looks like it's about to be four properties and these first three have been 'small potatoes' compared to what he's proposing over in Tecumseh.

I am not sure at all what he does.


There's a nice article on him and his wife and another project he's starting over in Tecumseh:

http://www.tecumsehherald.com/content/major-development-proposed-former-tecumseh-products-site (http://www.tecumsehherald.com/content/major-development-proposed-former-tecumseh-products-site)

(http://www.tecumsehherald.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/field/image/Devel-for-Tec-Products-site.jpg?itok=F-TkQki1)

This part of the article gives some background on him...   more in the rest of the article:

Quote
ason was raised in Dundee while Kristie grew up in nearby Ida. In 2006, the family founded Great Lakes Aerial (GLA) Maintenance & Construction Company, headquartered in Dundee with two facilities in Monroe. The company constructs, erects and maintains aerial structures, such as communication towers with 55 employees and customers across the country and Puerto Rico.

While the redevelopment project in Tecumseh is not intended for GLA, the idea of transforming the property for other uses came to Jason while driving his son to Saturday morning soccer games at Zorn Park.

“I fell in love with this community and I’m a man who likes a challenge,” said Jason.

The Millers moved to the Tecumseh area, settling in Franklin Township, and have enrolled their two children in Tecumseh Public Schools, citing the local school district as one of the reasons they moved here.

In a prepared statement for city council, Jason wrote:

“Because of my connection to southeast Michigan and this community, the tough development of the Tecumseh Products site has taken on personal meaning for me.

“I bring to the table a wealth of experience and success developing commercial properties in Monroe, Michigan. With my state and national connections we were able to bring in businesses from Ann Arbor and provide new facilities for local businesses searching for a better location. With each success I have found a passion for creating opportunities and seeing businesses grow from the environment that we create.

“Selective partnerships with business owners that have a strong entrepreneurial spirit and are willing to commit long term to a community are key to our success. We believe in this community and intend to dedicate the next five years to developing this property along with others in the area. Tecumseh will have a completed development project that will not only create jobs but will be a building block for the young entrepreneurial mind.

“I look forward to your support in enriching our community.”

- See more at: [url]http://www.tecumsehherald.com/content/major-development-proposed-former-tecumseh-products-site#sthash.CSKno4Jy.dpuf[/url] ([url]http://www.tecumsehherald.com/content/major-development-proposed-former-tecumseh-products-site#sthash.CSKno4Jy.dpuf[/url])
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 02, 2016, 08:12:28 AM
Here's a couple of pictures of what the professor mentioned yesterday...

this is what the N. Custer property originally looked like:

(http://x.lnimg.com/photo/poster_1920/8579191b24e84330bfd5cb843b6d9414.jpg)

This is from an old Loopnet listing at:  http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/14450199/8710-N-Custer-Rd-Monroe-MI/ (http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/14450199/8710-N-Custer-Rd-Monroe-MI/)

And this is after the office building was added and the older buildings were updated (sorry the pictures is so big...   Loopnet uses some large pictures):

(http://x.lnimg.com/photo/poster_1920/d84cd4115ce44ef8aa0dc619080fd964.jpg)

Above photo from Loopnet listing:  http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/19330957/8710-N-Custer-Road-Monroe-MI/ (http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/19330957/8710-N-Custer-Road-Monroe-MI/)


Here's some info on the work he's doing on the old Frank's Nursery property on M-50:

http://www.monroenews.com/article/20160207/news/160208955 (http://www.monroenews.com/article/20160207/news/160208955)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on June 02, 2016, 08:16:57 AM
The wife looks very healthy!   ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 02, 2016, 08:50:23 AM
The wife looks very healthy!   ;)

Dirty old man..... ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on June 02, 2016, 08:54:13 PM
Come on Flip, like you didn't notice!  LOL

Not much danger in her drowning......or is that folklore about floaters?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on June 02, 2016, 09:28:27 PM
Sisk Campaign signs are popping up.
Better get to Turners and start putting out signs for him !!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 03, 2016, 10:14:11 AM
I'm curious who monitors or runs the roadside waste pick up -  I'm seeing around the County,
and if they even know the meaning of a "RED" waste bag?   

Red bagged waste is generally reserved for Medical waste - and costs much much more to dispose of!!

========================================================
Twenty-four years after the Medical Waste Tracking Act prompted the passing of state medical waste regulations, red bags are still being filled with trash.
[url]http://blog.sharpsinc.com/whats-going-into-that-red-bag[/url] ([url]http://blog.sharpsinc.com/whats-going-into-that-red-bag[/url])

You may have seen some red-colored ‘trash bags’. These bags are made not because of novelty – they are red medical waste disposal bags specially made to contain medical or biohazardous waste. Though some medical facilities use bags of other colors, red bags are universally preferred lining containers for reusable medical waste disposal bins. The red color is designed to warn health personnel and waste disposal workers that the trash bag contains medical waste.

[url]http://www.usbioclean.com/red-medical-waste-disposal-bags/[/url] ([url]http://www.usbioclean.com/red-medical-waste-disposal-bags/[/url])

Can there be substitutes for the labels?
Yes. Red bags or red containers may be substituted for the biohazard labels.
[url]http://www.hercenter.org/rmw/osha-bps.cfm[/url] ([url]http://www.hercenter.org/rmw/osha-bps.cfm[/url])


I knew I had picked up one of the red trash bags in question the day we were doing our pickup.  Found it yesterday and opened it up to make sure there were no logos or insignia on it...  nothing...   

just a plain red trash bag :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 25, 2016, 09:27:58 AM
I see a big excavator is ripping up all the concrete parking lot at the 'old' Shell station on the SE corner of Jones and S. Monroe/Dixie (not sure exactly where the city limits is).  I had an '84 Grand Marquis and it loved 'Shell' gas for some reason...   got way better mileage and it performed better...   never could figure out why but I always tried to buy Shell for it when I could so bought quite a bit at that station.  Got a Taurus after that and it ran just fine on anything!

I know that lot has been for sale for a long, long, long time.  I suspect maybe some old leaking fuel is present so the cleanup may get extensive.  Hope they don't have to rip up all the nice new asphalt they just put down in the parking lot at the gym next door :o :o :o
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on June 26, 2016, 09:05:13 AM
I see a big excavator is ripping up all the concrete parking lot at the 'old' Shell station on the SE corner of Jones and S. Monroe/Dixie (not sure exactly where the city limits is).  I had an '84 Grand Marquis and it loved 'Shell' gas for some reason...   got way better mileage and it performed better...   never could figure out why but I always tried to buy Shell for it when I could so bought quite a bit at that station.  Got a Taurus after that and it ran just fine on anything!

I know that lot has been for sale for a long, long, long time.  I suspect maybe some old leaking fuel is present so the cleanup may get extensive.  Hope they don't have to rip up all the nice new asphalt they just put down in the parking lot at the gym next door :o :o :o
They removed the old gas Station at the South East corner of the Winchester Street Bridge...   
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 26, 2016, 09:41:43 PM
One thing that has always baffled me and that is, why do filling stations always bury their tanks that eventually leak?  seems to me to be more prudent to have them above ground on non premeable concrete with containment dikes.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 26, 2016, 09:42:56 PM
.........and FYI, Lewis and Petersburg Road is smooth as a baby's behind (least the new parts are)..
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on June 26, 2016, 11:01:52 PM
One thing that has always baffled me and that is, why do filling stations always bury their tanks that eventually leak?  seems to me to be more prudent to have them above ground on non premeable concrete with containment dikes.
Safety reasons,   less apt to have objects puncture them... idiots crash into them, or the elements  - also a more temperate climate - as volumes change with temps...   (remember your chemistry)
Gasoline in a dike is about as safe as leaving loaded guns laying around your house with a dozen 9 yo kids... 

The issues with leaks were from poor oversight in the early years of setting them in the ground -    Heck we had one at the current fire station - wonder where it went? 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 27, 2016, 10:12:37 AM
One thing that has always baffled me and that is, why do filling stations always bury their tanks that eventually leak?  seems to me to be more prudent to have them above ground on non premeable concrete with containment dikes.

That works for the farmer that has lots of room to build such a containment.  Most anywhere you find a fuel station today you find it on 'high cost' real estate.  Even with the safety issues the professor pointed out it would be very costly to have additional land used this way.  Farmers do it but they usually have plenty of land and are using 2500 gallon tanks as opposed to the 18,000 (or larger) that many of the big fuel stations are using today.

I do recall a station we stopped at in Florida many years ago that had an above ground tank standing vertically with a concrete containment at it's base.  Always wondered what was in the ground there that called for this type of installation.  I guess I've seen a few others built that way down there.  Might be a very high water table which will literally 'float' a half empty tank right up out of the ground.  This was probably 25-30 years ago so they've probably developed better practices since then.  I don't remember seeing any like this lately down there.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on July 01, 2016, 11:47:28 PM
Farmers are starting to harvest wheat...
and I just learned my neighbor is growing barely and hops -  wonder what the beer will taste like
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 02, 2016, 01:19:48 PM
Farmers are starting to harvest wheat...
and I just learned my neighbor is growing barely and hops -  wonder what the beer will taste like

That seems to be a popular thing out this way.  A couple of commercial operations on Deerfield Road.  Easy to spot with rall wooden poles and steel cables suspending the vines....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on July 02, 2016, 03:40:33 PM
I won't get near a barley field.  Farmer I worked for a farmer that grew that. Combining it, the itch was worst then anything. And bailing that straw was as bad. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 02, 2016, 05:25:51 PM
Row crops are starting to look pretty sad and nothing is headed out yet.  That is when the lack of moisture will really show.  The wheat is ready to combine but the heads are very small.  I believe it will be a poor harvest.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 03, 2016, 08:10:18 AM
The steel skeleton for a big new building that looks like it is right behind Friendly Ford but it looks like all the construction traffic is coming in off of LaSalle road.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on July 03, 2016, 10:12:42 AM
Probably a new body shop
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 03, 2016, 10:15:45 AM
Probably a new body shop

I wondered if that might be a possibility.

When they moved into the building on Telegraph it did't seem like that was a big enough building.

They need to take a big excavator to their old building on S. Monroe street...

that is really getting rough looking!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on July 03, 2016, 10:29:54 AM
Yeah I think they are just renting the old Solomon building and not buying it. Their old building would have been a better location for the new Farm and Fleet as opposed to the old Food Town on Telegraph but they didn't ask for my advice. I'm sure the old Friendly's building is structurally sound it just needs a facelift and a purpose. A customer base would also be nice !!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on July 05, 2016, 09:46:12 AM
The steel skeleton for a big new building that looks like it is right behind Friendly Ford but it looks like all the construction traffic is coming in off of LaSalle road.

Probably a new body shop
Yeah I think they are just renting the old Solomon building and not buying it. Their old building would have been a better location for the new Farm and Fleet as opposed to the old Food Town on Telegraph but they didn't ask for my advice. I'm sure the old Friendly's building is structurally sound it just needs a facelift and a purpose. A customer base would also be nice !!


Correct -  The service manager for the body shop told me a while back they are temporarily using the former Solomon location until they build the new one on site. 

I doubt they will "sell" the former location to anyone wanting to open up a automotive sales business however....    ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 05, 2016, 10:16:36 AM
Correct -  The service manager for the body shop told me a while back they are temporarily using the former Solomon location until they build the new one on site. 

I doubt they will "sell" the former location to anyone wanting to open up a automotive sales business however....    ;)

Not being willing to sell to another auto business may definitely limit their ability (and/or price) to sell the property.  If I recall right the piece on S. Monore is a little over 5 acres so there maybe be the option to split the property and make two sites there...  but the building sits right in the middle so it would have to come down to be able to split it. 

Ford Motor company didn't hesitate to sell the former Lincoln Mercury building to a used car dealer.

Mav had the right idea for the old Ford garage...

some kind of a Farm supply business...

but most startups aren't going to want to make the major investment that would be required to go in there.

Seems like the price (at one time anyway) was over $3M! 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: rwwjr on July 05, 2016, 10:51:31 AM
I just wish someone would open a hardware store somewhere south of town  I HATE driving north to either Ace Hardware or Lowes.  Several prime buildings standing empty that could be utilized
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 05, 2016, 11:19:02 AM
I just wish someone would open a hardware store somewhere south of town  I HATE driving north to either Ace Hardware or Lowes.  Several prime buildings standing empty that could be utilized

I agree...

Even the ACO was nice for general stuff although they didn't have the nice selection of fasteners (especially stainless and chrome) that the N. Dixie Ace has.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on July 05, 2016, 06:19:54 PM
Not being willing to sell to another auto business may definitely limit their ability (and/or price) to sell the property.  If I recall right the piece on S. Monore is a little over 5 acres so there maybe be the option to split the property and make two sites there...  but the building sits right in the middle so it would have to come down to be able to split it. 

Mav had the right idea for the old Ford garage...

some kind of a Farm supply business...

but most startups aren't going to want to make the major investment that would be required to go in there.

Seems like the price (at one time anyway) was over $3M! 

Good point but I just don't see the value of selling property to competition paying any "dividends"...   eventually property sells -   (isn't it close to the quarry - maybe a Marina/boat rental)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 06, 2016, 08:43:38 AM
Good point but I just don't see the value of selling property to competition paying any "dividends"...  eventually property sells -   (isn't it close to the quarry - maybe a Marina/boat rental)

Yes, eventually any property will sell.

It's usually the objective of the seller to get the highest amount of $$$ in the shortest amount of time.  In this case that most likely means another car lot would be the most likely end user. 

The other side of the coin is that the car lot that doesn't buy that lot from Friendly Ford is still going to end up in Monroe 'somewhere' and then FF still has an empty building that they're still paying taxes and insurance on.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 06, 2016, 08:48:05 AM
They've got all the concrete stripped off the lot at Jones and S. Monroe and they're working on some of the underground.  I never did see anyone in there doing any testing for leaked fuel but I'm sure they did that at some point.

Maybe this is going to be that new 'Jack in the Box' that everyone has been hoping for.  The lot seems too small to be a hardware store.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tea Party Patriot on July 06, 2016, 08:55:17 AM
They've got all the concrete stripped off the lot at Jones and S. Monroe and they're working on some of the underground.  I never did see anyone in there doing any testing for leaked fuel but I'm sure they did that at some point.

Maybe this is going to be that new 'Jack in the Box' that everyone has been hoping for.  The lot seems too small to be a hardware store.

Its going to be a new Jimmy Johns. It will probably be open in time for Trumps inaugaration.  TRUMP 2016!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 06, 2016, 08:58:37 AM
Its going to be a new Jimmy Johns. It will probably be open in time for Trumps inaugaration.  TRUMP 2016!

I do remember something about a JJ now...   guess I had forgotten it was that corner though.

Nice and convenient to the gym...

I can go in there and work out before I drive next door to load up :o :o :o ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on July 06, 2016, 10:23:56 AM
If you decide to leave Monroe county and head south this might give you a heads up on traffic.

http://ohgo.com/index (http://ohgo.com/index)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 07, 2016, 08:30:04 AM
If you decide to leave Monroe county and head south this might give you a heads up on traffic.

[url]http://ohgo.com/index[/url] ([url]http://ohgo.com/index[/url])


I tried it out and there are lots of nice features. 

The map interface appears to just be a traffic flow overlay they're getting from Google (Waze).  Already have that on my phone and tablet.

The nicest links were to the traffic cameras.

The links to the sensors will be a nice way to pass some time in the winter!!!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 07, 2016, 09:01:46 AM
deerfield Road is now finished from the edge of P'burg to Taft Road.  Nice and smooth plus the bridge deck was resurfaced.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 18, 2016, 08:45:09 AM
On one trip into Monroe last week I saw that they were pouring the foundation at the new Jimmy John's...

also saw two pickups parked on the south side of the former Friendly Ford building and two guys up on the roof walking around... 

no signs or indication on the trucks as to what they were other than they had ladder racks on them.

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 19, 2016, 07:09:57 AM
A big 'For Sale' sign on what is left of the Knight's Inn.  The Taco Bell is all framed in and the curbs are in place out in the parking lot.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 19, 2016, 01:13:57 PM
Roadside weeds getting higher all the time....  and the dead (and decaying deer) rotting away on Telegraph on the SB side, halfway between 151 and the state line.  Glad I don't live around it, the stink must be overpowering.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on July 19, 2016, 06:23:12 PM
Been noticing all the weeds and scrub trees growing in the rightaway and ditches.  Getting hard to see at intersections.
They use to butcher all the trash growing in ditches.  Now they let grow and pays thousands for tree companies to cut.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on July 19, 2016, 09:02:24 PM
Roadside weeds getting higher all the time....  and the dead (and decaying deer) rotting away on Telegraph on the SB side, halfway between 151 and the state line.  Glad I don't live around it, the stink must be overpowering.

Sadly that deer has been there for a while - apparently pouring a bag of lime over it was the response of whoever is in charge for that area...   Erie or LaSalle?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 19, 2016, 09:44:30 PM
Sadly that deer has been there for a while - apparently pouring a bag of lime over it was the response of whoever is in charge for that area...   Erie or LaSalle?

I pass it every time I go into work.  One time MCRC was mowing and had to carefully go around it.  How 'professional' of them.....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 20, 2016, 07:12:25 AM
Sadly that deer has been there for a while - apparently pouring a bag of lime over it was the response of whoever is in charge for that area...   Erie or LaSalle?

It's closer to Bedford than La Salle...   I'll look today but seems like it's just north of where Minx intersects and that is the Erie-Bedford line.

It's a state highway so MCRC is responsible regardless of where it is.  We had one hit in the road a couple of years ago.  It was laying just onto the road and not a problem if drivers were going a reasonable speed for as rough as our road is.  I saw it when we came home one night so I used the MCRC website and their request for service link.  One of the selections is animal carcass.  I gave all the info and the next day they called me and said they couldn't find it.  Seems someone going down the road with a front loader had given it a push off into the ditch.  MCRC crew did find it after I confirmed the 'precise' location and they did the lime thing.  When I was talking to the person that called me back they explained they no longer removed the carcass but just 'limed' them in place.  I guess if one gets hit close to the house I'll just go pull it down the road a half mile before I call anyone :o :o :o
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 20, 2016, 07:19:06 AM
Had to drop off something in Monroe last night so made a couple of trips past the quarry at Hull and Dunbar.  Last week when we were leaving Kroger we saw several young people walking with towels and in swimming 'attire'...   we figured they had parked in the Kroger lot.  Then yesterday we saw them walking from every direction as we were at the Hull-Dunbar corner and turning north.  Some must have parked clear down at the Harwood Plaza and others were walking from the city.  There were already several inside the perimeter (can't really call it a fence) near the corner.  Then when we came back there were two Sheriff vehicles (car and an SUV) that had a small black sports car boxed in at the barriers in the drive.  As we were driving west on Dunbar we noticed many of these same young people walking west too...

nice to see them getting their exercise ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 20, 2016, 09:19:30 AM
I pass it every time I go into work.  One time MCRC was mowing and had to carefully go around it.  How 'professional' of them.....

I've hit a few dead critters with the brush hog and it is absolutely nasty!!!    I can see why they'd steer clear ;) ;) ;)

I took the time to really 'note' where the carcass is on my way back from T-town this morning...   just a couple of hundred yards north of the driveway to the former Erie Aerodrome (not sure what they're doing back there now).

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Erie+Township,+MI/@41.7799785,-83.5170063,16.5z/data= (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Erie+Township,+MI/@41.7799785,-83.5170063,16.5z/data=)!4m5!3m4!1s0x883b791daeb7d19d:0xe4925759fcd595a6!8m2!3d41.7946832!4d-83.4856913

I did notice that the pile is only about half as high as it was when I first saw it.  I'm guessing the lime probably also keeps the buzzards and other critters that normally feast on dead critters from even getting close to them too. 

It does seem like in the past the road commission would actually pick up the critters and dump them somewhere.  Maybe they ran out of places to dump them :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 24, 2016, 09:10:31 PM
They are laying natural gas line on Secor Road, North of Todd.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 28, 2016, 08:16:55 AM
They are laying natural gas line on Secor Road, North of Todd.

We saw that Monday.  They were actually in the process of fusing two lengths of pipe (heavy walled flexible plastic) together just as we drove by.  The sun was already out and the guy doing the work (he was squaring the ends at the time) had a nice little 8x10' sunshade over his work area.  There were several other people watching him...   

I wondered if it was 'training' day :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 28, 2016, 09:15:08 AM
I wonder where it's going and where it comes from more than anything.  Most of Secor in that stretch has no NG and the line is small diameter.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 28, 2016, 09:24:34 AM
I wonder where it's going and where it comes from more than anything.  Most of Secor in that stretch has no NG and the line is small diameter.

Looked like about 4" diameter.  Not sure how much pressure they can get on that.  I think it's just a local distribution line so they can serve homes along that stretch.  MGU has a big main that goes diagonally across that area so it probably ties into that.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 28, 2016, 09:35:16 AM
Normally, you don't lay in a line like that unless you have a volume end user in mind.  It's not financially prudent to have resident hookups only.  Not enough revenue produced.

I'm wondering if Parran inked an agreement with the utility to switch from propane to NG?  Remember, Parran is north of Ida Center on Secor.

They (some utility) did the same thing last year on Bucholtz from the Deerfield incorporation line to McMahon to service Woods' seed operation for the bin dryers.  It has to be profitable and it has to be non-residential volume to justify laying in transmission line.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: CatLady on July 28, 2016, 09:36:38 AM
Heads up!
Major construction is beginning on Ida West Road this Monday, August 1.  They are removing the roadway, and recycling the current asphalt as a base, then laying two additional blocks of asphalt over the base.  The road is being widened to meet today's roadway standards.  This is expected to take 4-6 weeks to complete.  They are repaving on Ida West from Lewis Avenue to just west of US-23  - a 4.2 mile stretch.   Traffic during this time will be local traffic only.




Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 28, 2016, 09:42:12 AM
No more bumpidy, bumpidy bump.  Probably leave the tracks rough though.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 28, 2016, 12:57:01 PM
Heads up!
Major construction is beginning on Ida West Road this Monday, August 1.  They are removing the roadway, and recycling the current asphalt as a base, then laying two additional blocks of asphalt over the base.  The road is being widened to meet today's roadway standards.  This is expected to take 4-6 weeks to complete.  They are repaving on Ida West from Lewis Avenue to just west of US-23  - a 4.2 mile stretch.   Traffic during this time will be local traffic only.

Wait until they're all finished...

perfect for:

(https://bensbarn.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/drag-racing.jpg)

 ;D ;D ;D

Someone...

not sure if it was the MCRC or a combination of the two railroads but they finally (at least 30+ years) leveled out the crossing on S. Otter Creek just west of I-75.  I have seen cars literally leave the ground going to fast there!!!

There were plenty of gouges in the road back from when cars had real frames...

not sure what happens when a uni-body bottoms out but I doubt it could leave gouges in the road as deep as the ones that were there.

I was at a party one night telling a friend about seeing a car 'launch' from one set of tracks and he started laughing...

he said he had launched a few times over those tracks himself :o :o :o

Anyway, not too bad now to cruise over them at 40-45...  probably wouldn't even be an issue going faster but I still have more respect for my struts and springs than that :) :) :)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 28, 2016, 01:09:30 PM
Normally, you don't lay in a line like that unless you have a volume end user in mind.  It's not financially prudent to have resident hookups only.  Not enough revenue produced.

I'm wondering if Parran inked an agreement with the utility to switch from propane to NG?  Remember, Parran is north of Ida Center on Secor.

They (some utility) did the same thing last year on Bucholtz from the Deerfield incorporation line to McMahon to service Woods' seed operation for the bin dryers.  It has to be profitable and it has to be non-residential volume to justify laying in transmission line.

It's the same size plastic line that is along our road and I know it's just a local line for residential distribution.

I'm not sure if the utilities get direct funding or low cost loans but I'm pretty sure they do get major tax credits for installing new infrastructure.

They don't have to make it all back from their customers if they can get it from the government instead. 

When they installed our city water tap the contractor was extra careful to hand dig the gas line right after they ripped the incorrectly marked telephone wires out of the ground!!!

Miss Dig is not always perfect.  Apparently their were two phone cables along the road...

the old abandoned one was the one they marked and the much newer (I remember when they 'plowed' that one in) is the one they didn't bother to mark.  Fortunately it only served a few houses beyond us and apparently none of them were using Ma Bell anymore...  They called ATT to report it and several hours later when no one from ATT had shown up to look at the scenario the contractor just folded them back into the hole and covered it all up...

after taking a dozen or so pictures showing the flags about 4 feet from the phone line...

from every possible angle! 

I figure someday someone down the road past us is going to want a landline and we're going to see 2 or 3 service trucks out here trying to figure out 'where' the break in the line is...

If I'm still here I can show them within a foot or so exactly where it is ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 28, 2016, 06:50:26 PM
Heads up!
Major construction is beginning on Ida West Road this Monday, August 1.  They are removing the roadway, and recycling the current asphalt as a base, then laying two additional blocks of asphalt over the base.  The road is being widened to meet today's roadway standards.  This is expected to take 4-6 weeks to complete.  They are repaving on Ida West from Lewis Avenue to just west of US-23  - a 4.2 mile stretch.   Traffic during this time will be local traffic only.

They just finished a stretch of Ida Center from Lewis east...   

I haven't driven it (let the oil settle down some) but I know it doesn't go all the way to the La Salle township line at Minx road.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 28, 2016, 07:28:30 PM
Normally, you don't lay in a line like that unless you have a volume end user in mind.  It's not financially prudent to have resident hookups only.  Not enough revenue produced.

I'm wondering if Parran inked an agreement with the utility to switch from propane to NG?  Remember, Parran is north of Ida Center on Secor.

They (some utility) did the same thing last year on Bucholtz from the Deerfield incorporation line to McMahon to service Woods' seed operation for the bin dryers.  It has to be profitable and it has to be non-residential volume to justify laying in transmission line.

MGU has an odor injection station on Secor only a little over a mile north of Parran's...  It's before you get to Albain.

Here's a map zoomed in on the station and if you zoom out you can see where the major pipeline runs from SW to NE at about a 45 degree angle.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ida+Township,+MI/@41.8902731,-83.6298625,151m/data= (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ida+Township,+MI/@41.8902731,-83.6298625,151m/data=)!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x883b7d7d9045933f:0x5556d6907aa23c45!8m2!3d41.8786731!4d-83.570964
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 29, 2016, 03:39:33 AM

Here's a map that shows the Panhandle Eastern Pipeline running on that 45 degree angle:

(http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/mpsc/gas/download/michmapp.gif)


This map is all natural gas pipelines and it shows one crossing the Straits too...

but if one of these leaks it would just bubble to the surface and dissipate...

unless it caught fire somehow and even then probably not a major problem.

I found this map at the same place as I found the crude oil line earlier:

http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/mpsc/gas/gasmaps.htm (http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/mpsc/gas/gasmaps.htm)


Also some reading on natural gas pipeline explosions and fires.

They even have a code phrase for locations with lots of people around...   HCA (high consequence area) :o :o :o

http://spectrabusters.org/2014/10/14/pilot-grove-mo-pepl-explosion-2008-08-25/ (http://spectrabusters.org/2014/10/14/pilot-grove-mo-pepl-explosion-2008-08-25/)

http://spectrabusters.org/category/hazards/corrosion-hazards/ (http://spectrabusters.org/category/hazards/corrosion-hazards/)

(http://media.techeblog.com/images/gas_explosion_san_bruno.jpg)

This map shows the 'retailers' of nat gas in Michigan...

I did't realize MGU covered so much of western Michigan!

(http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/mpsc/gas/img/gasutilityservicemap.gif)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 29, 2016, 10:56:06 AM
A few pieces of paving equipment sitting on the ground at the weigh station on Telegraph.  I can't imagine that they are going to repave any of the pavement that's already there unless they're planning on putting in new scales or something :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 29, 2016, 01:14:10 PM
The only gas at our house is what we 'generate' at night. Not sure of the heating value but it's certainly 'odorized'.... I witnessed the PHEPL explosion in Lenawee County some years back.  Turned the dirt into glass....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 31, 2016, 09:08:59 AM
Heads up!
Major construction is beginning on Ida West Road this Monday, August 1.  They are removing the roadway, and recycling the current asphalt as a base, then laying two additional blocks of asphalt over the base.  The road is being widened to meet today's roadway standards.  This is expected to take 4-6 weeks to complete.  They are repaving on Ida West from Lewis Avenue to just west of US-23  - a 4.2 mile stretch.   Traffic during this time will be local traffic only.


No more bumpidy, bumpidy bump.  Probably leave the tracks rough though.


Here's the article from the MonroeNews on the project. 

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160730/ida-west-rd-rebuilding-starts-monday#loadComment (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160730/ida-west-rd-rebuilding-starts-monday#loadComment)

Quote
As the work progresses, a crew from the Ann Arbor Railroad will remove and replace its crossing between Gloff and Haines Rds. When this happens, Ida West will be closed completely at the crossing for about one week, he said.


I've seen some crossing repairs that were worse when they finished...   hopefully this will be a co-ordinated project and will end up real smooth...   maybe even a rubber deck crossing!!!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 31, 2016, 09:10:53 AM
For the record...

I will NOT be using their suggested or posted detours...

I've been avoiding Ida West Road for the last few years anyway so I already know most of the 'detours' out there ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on August 08, 2016, 10:59:59 PM
I noticed they are putting curbs in on the South Side of 7th street  - past the Road commission down to the mobile home parks... 

Curious why  -   and I guess that means a Bike Lane may be in the works?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 09, 2016, 12:14:51 AM
For the record...

I will NOT be using their suggested or posted detours...

I've been avoiding Ida West Road for the last few years anyway so I already know most of the 'detours' out there ;D ;D ;D

For the record, the road is closed to all but local traffic from Lewis west and 23 east....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 09, 2016, 12:16:08 AM
I noted today that the deer remains on Telegraph has depleted to a fuzzy brown lump.  Probably still stinks though....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 09, 2016, 07:53:51 AM
I noted today that the deer remains on Telegraph has depleted to a fuzzy brown lump.  Probably still stinks though....

I noticed that Sunday afternoon...

I still swerved over (no oncoming traffic) just to avoid any possible smell...

For the record, the road is closed to all but local traffic from Lewis west and 23 east....

When they close it on the west side of 23 it is going to make for some long slow response times for the fire department to call on US 23 at least!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on August 09, 2016, 10:08:07 AM
I see they are still putting sidewalks in Lambertville along Sterns and Secor.  They run about a mile or more on Secor from south of Sterns to the side entrance of Krogers. As if one side of Secor wasn't a big enough joke they are now putting one in on the west side.  I suppose to ease all the foot traffic they expect...Next will be walk/dont walk lights to really slow traffic down at the intersection.
So far the politician with the bright idea hasn't taken credit.  Probably waiting until after the election so he doesn't get booted out.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 10, 2016, 01:38:14 PM
Just to the west of US 23 and on the north side of Sterns road and heading north for maybe a quarter of a mile they are either digging or hauling in sand and piling it up...   high in some areas...  but in a long straight line!

Anyone have any idea what's going on with that?

Is this maybe where the new pipeline is coming through?

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on August 13, 2016, 12:46:34 AM
Just to the west of US 23 and on the north side of Sterns road and heading north for maybe a quarter of a mile they are either digging or hauling in sand and piling it up...   high in some areas...  but in a long straight line!

Anyone have any idea what's going on with that?

Is this maybe where the new pipeline is coming through?


well that's how they started on the curb project at 7th by the trailer parks - maybe they are adding curbs there as well?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 13, 2016, 08:28:32 AM
well that's how they started on the curb project at 7th by the trailer parks - maybe they are adding curbs there as well?

If so they have a 'lot' of sand ready...

but it's just running off through the woods.  I'll have to get on the Google aerial view and see if I can figure out what is along there.  I'm still thinking pipeline. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on August 13, 2016, 09:25:16 AM
You don't suppose the quarry operation on Sterns has moved over there?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 13, 2016, 09:40:24 AM
That does look like what they could be doing.  I thought they were hauling sand in but maybe they're just pushing it off the surface to expose the limestone.  I'll be back over there in a couple of weeks and I'll look around a little closer and see if I can find some more info.

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 14, 2016, 09:39:46 AM
There are a lot of concrete blocks on the ground at the old Friendly Ford building...

they have the footings all poured at the 'Jimmy Johns' on the corner across from Kroger...

they sure don't build their buildings as fast as they deliver their sandwiches ;D ;D ;D

But, at least they haven't put up the 'Opening Soon' sign 8* 8* 8*
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on August 14, 2016, 10:39:26 AM
Isn't that a new Jimmy John's going up in Dundee next to the McDonalds also ?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 14, 2016, 11:01:27 AM
Isn't that a new Jimmy John's going up in Dundee next to the McDonalds also ?


Sounds like it must be!

Quote
One business opening soon that took advantage of the plan is Jimmy Johns, a sandwich shop opening on M-50.


Above from:

http://www.monroenews.com/article/20160327/NEWS/160329085/?Start=2 (http://www.monroenews.com/article/20160327/NEWS/160329085/?Start=2)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on August 14, 2016, 05:06:00 PM
I heard O'Reilly's and another Dollar store was going in the old Ford dealership building, just what Monroe needs. I can't believe they didn't tear that all down and start new.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on August 14, 2016, 07:06:34 PM
I heard O'Reilly's and another Dollar store was going in the old Ford dealership building, just what Monroe needs. I can't believe they didn't tear that all down and start new.

There wasn't much of it left when I drove by Saturday.....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 14, 2016, 09:43:57 PM
I can understand a proliferation of auto parts stores in Moron County.  The roads suck so cars fail quickly...
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on August 14, 2016, 10:49:40 PM
Aren't cars more and more technical and less owner fixable?   

Sounds like the proliferation of the auto parts stores are a little behind the curve...

Now a hardware store on the South side of town would seem to fill a void - but then again who knows?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 15, 2016, 09:27:02 AM
Aren't cars more and more technical and less owner fixable?   

Sounds like the proliferation of the auto parts stores are a little behind the curve...

Now a hardware store on the South side of town would seem to fill a void - but then again who knows?

To a point but there is also the side that an engine will 'self diagnose' and tell anyone (with a relatively inexpensive diagnostic tool) what is wrong.  In many cases anyone with good mechanical skills can still do the majority of their own repairs. 

The 'diagnostics' has always been the 'tough' part and now the vehicle does it for you. 

The last repair (other than body work which is not my cup of tea) I took to the shop was for an electric shift solonoid in a Focus.  I had even diagnosed it myself (properly btw) but there were 3 solenoids and all appeared (to me anyway) the same.  I scoured the internet (Google and user groups are your friend) and I could not figure out which of the 3 I had to change.  Took it to the dealer near my wife's work and discovered the tech lives about 3 miles from us!!!

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 15, 2016, 10:02:25 AM
Mechanical hard parts like suspension components (ball joints, shocks, struts, bushings) air filters, oil filters, spark plugs and etc., can still be replaced in the driveway...but then, I prefer Rock Auto anyway.  Plan ahead sna save a bundle is my motto.

No way any auto parts retail outlet can compete with Rock Auto but you have to plan ahead.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 15, 2016, 01:36:02 PM
Mechanical hard parts like suspension components (ball joints, shocks, struts, bushings) air filters, oil filters, spark plugs and etc., can still be replaced in the driveway...but then, I prefer Rock Auto anyway.  Plan ahead sna save a bundle is my motto.

No way any auto parts retail outlet can compete with Rock Auto but you have to plan ahead.

Some people just don't want to 'plan ahead'...

so they go the 'local' route and then spend 2 hours calling around to try to find the 'cheapest' price!

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 15, 2016, 01:50:36 PM
I heard O'Reilly's and another Dollar store was going in the old Ford dealership building, just what Monroe needs. I can't believe they didn't tear that all down and start new.


The MonroeNews has an article today on this project:

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160815/oreillys-dollar-general-planned-for-old-dealership/1 (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160815/oreillys-dollar-general-planned-for-old-dealership/1)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 15, 2016, 03:46:44 PM
I'll admit I'm not a big fan of Dollar stores regardless of which one it is...

in fact I just lump them all together and refer to them as 'dollar stores'.

My wife usually knows where I'm talking about based on where we are or what she may be looking for.

Sometimes we'll go there looking for something that no one else seems to have though.

Here's a short 'primer' article on the differences between the three 'big ones' from the WSJ.

http://blogs.wsj.com/corporate-intelligence/2014/08/18/a-field-guide-for-the-dollar-store-showdown/ (http://blogs.wsj.com/corporate-intelligence/2014/08/18/a-field-guide-for-the-dollar-store-showdown/)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on August 15, 2016, 05:06:59 PM
We stopped at the Dollar General in Carleton right after they built it, and found out, it is just like a regular dept. store except with higher prices. It is not everything for a dollar like the Dollar Tree which is across the street from the new building being built.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on August 16, 2016, 12:16:54 AM
Spotted walking around Monroe. Pokeman character. Now be nice.

(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13912504_1840196012868657_404955263990083994_n.jpg?oh=811f2a05ccd023648a7fb46c38e0057d&oe=581AF64D)

(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13924951_1840196066201985_2373258999795553579_n.jpg?oh=b3e0a6af996fed5899fe2118185e3921&oe=585B2671)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 16, 2016, 08:37:44 AM
cute outfit..... ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 16, 2016, 08:41:22 AM
I wouldn't give you 2 cents for any 'dollar' store..... ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 16, 2016, 10:16:09 AM
Spotted walking around Monroe. Pokeman character. Now be nice.



The first thing I thought when I saw your pictures was about this story I read about a week ago about the 'clown' walking the streets of Green Bay, WI.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/08/04/creepy-clown-black-balloons-wandering-wisconsin/88063684/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/08/04/creepy-clown-black-balloons-wandering-wisconsin/88063684/)

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on August 16, 2016, 11:31:24 AM
We stopped at the Dollar General in Carleton right after they built it, and found out, it is just like a regular dept. store except with higher prices. It is not everything for a dollar like the Dollar Tree which is across the street from the new building being built.
LOL  so they lure people in thinking it's a dollar store.   

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on August 24, 2016, 08:44:43 AM
I see the driving school at the intersection of Telegraph and Monroe Street has some advertising issues... 

They have a car in the lot with their school advertising - the rear end is smashed in...

Didn't have time to snap a picture :)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 24, 2016, 12:16:18 PM
That is funny.....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on August 24, 2016, 11:20:27 PM
I see the fancy curb job is almost done on one side of 7th street - curious why they didn't go all the way to Herr road?   

Must have been some road commission grant - as I don't recall people clamoring for curbs out in the county.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on August 25, 2016, 09:22:56 AM
I see the fancy curb job is almost done on one side of 7th street - curious why they didn't go all the way to Herr road?   

Must have been some road commission grant - as I don't recall people clamoring for curbs out in the county.

I was up North on vacation a few weeks ago.

I was amazed at the number of concrete curbs that MDOT was putting up in the middle of the country.

I guess all that additional road funding is going to good use?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on August 26, 2016, 10:03:49 AM
I guess the reason for curbs is so they can put their political signs closer to the roadway?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 26, 2016, 10:31:52 AM
I was up North on vacation a few weeks ago.

I was amazed at the number of concrete curbs that MDOT was putting up in the middle of the country.

I guess all that additional road funding is going to good use?

Like when you're way out in the country on a narrow gravel road and you come to a bridge over a drain or creek...

suddenly you have 300 feet of concrete road, concrete highway, the tall turned in aluminum or steel safety railings, drains, sidewalks...   just like you were in downtown anywhere...

Those are the 'standards' and if something has to be replaced then those are what it has to be rebuilt too :( :( :(

There are a few of those bridges on the west side of the county and elsewhere across the state.  I think they finally figured out that requiring all of that made them just end up closing the road because it was too high of a cost to put in those super bridges...

10 years from now they'll probably figure out that these curbs are too expensive too :o :o :o
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on August 26, 2016, 07:58:18 PM
My daughter complained to me today that the light on 50 at Lewis is poorly timed. She drives through every morning from Monroe and swears she timed it as 15 seconds green and 15 seconds red. She said she watched it change 2 or 3 times as she approached from Monroe.

Thats not going to be very user friendly for fully loaded semi rigs.

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on August 26, 2016, 10:07:57 PM
They obviously haven't consulted with the traffic engineer from Ann Arbor.  They have the longest cycles I've seen anywhere. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on August 26, 2016, 10:41:35 PM
Well, It should be long for the traffic on M-50 and give Lewis ave a small window every once in a while to cross.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on August 26, 2016, 10:41:49 PM
My daughter complained to me today that the light on 50 at Lewis is poorly timed. She drives through every morning from Monroe and swears she timed it as 15 seconds green and 15 seconds red. She said she watched it change 2 or 3 times as she approached from Monroe.

Thats not going to be very user friendly for fully loaded semi rigs.


I would have thought a pressure switch to enact the light would have been the "timer"....   

Silly to have it cycle through when no traffic is crossing.  - but then again them traffic engineers aren't the smartest tools in the shed
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on August 26, 2016, 11:32:51 PM
The lights you are talking about are the more expensive ones to install and that intersection obviously didn't warrant one. The other thing we noted last Sunday was that there were no warning signs about the NEW light. They put those up today. A little out of schedule but they did get them.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on August 27, 2016, 07:32:47 AM
I guess they have different classes of engineering then?   

I prefer the "if your going to do it - then do it right"

over the lets do it as cheap as we can  - forget about traffic flow.

Besides we need that extra money for curbs ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on August 27, 2016, 08:48:12 AM
And in Bedford we use the extra money for sidewalks from nowhere to nowhere.  $650,000 just spent on Secor and Sterns area where there is no foot traffic and never will be...
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 27, 2016, 08:51:58 AM
And in Bedford we use the extra money for sidewalks from nowhere to nowhere.  $650,000 just spent on Secor and Sterns area where there is no foot traffic and never will be...
I like the computerized ones with the cameras that they put up at the Dunbar / S. Dixie intersection among others.  If you're on Dunbar (the cross street) and there is a lot of traffic (like when the train had traffic backed up for 15 minutes) then it will adjust the light timing to allow for more vehicles to cross between light changes.  Then if there isn't any cross traffic it just doesn't ever go red on S. Dixie.  I'm sure they are more expensive but they have obvious benefits.


Speaking of lights...   I was at Telegraph and Stewart (highest crash intersection in the county) on Monday and had to wait a couple of light changes to get through.  I watched some young gal on the Meijer gas station corner walk up and punch the button for the cross walk...   I mean she looked like she had an attitude and she punched it.  Then she stood there and nothing happened so she punched it again...    still nothing so the third time she went up and pushed it gently (I'm sure the way it was designed to be pushed)...

About that time I was first in line for the green so I had to go.  If I had been on the outside lane I might have swung around and stopped just to see if the light worked better for her when she dropped the 'attitude'...

Who says some engineers aren't doing a great job 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 27, 2016, 08:54:38 AM
And in Bedford we use the extra money for sidewalks from nowhere to nowhere.  $650,000 just spent on Secor and Sterns area where there is no foot traffic and never will be...

"never" is a long time blue2...

I'm not so sure we're not rapidly approaching a scenario where we may all be reverting back to 'foot' traffic...   

but I guess everyone will be able to walk or ride their bikes in the street so they still won't need the sidewalks :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 27, 2016, 10:37:17 AM
Walking isn't so bad.  It's good exercise.  So is pedal biking something people need to do more of.  If people actually exercised and got off the couch or out of their automobiles, there would be less fat folks.

Watching people, it appears that pot guts and wide butts are in style today....uch.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 27, 2016, 10:39:42 AM
One of my acquaintances has a huge gut.  I remarked to him the other day it was a '20 thousand dollar shanty over a 2 dollar tool'.....  he wasn't impressed.  To much high fat fast food....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 28, 2016, 08:46:13 PM
They have part (or it's going to be a very small building) of the steel frame up on the new Jimmy Johns at Monroe Street and Jones Avenue. 

When we drove by this afternoon there was a truck there delivering two more cubes of concrete blocks at the former unfriendly Ford store site.  Looks like they took some of the back of the building off and they obviously took off all the old showroom and now they're putting an addition on the side near Mickey Dees!

Getting rid of that eyesore is going to spiff up that whole stretch along there :) :) :)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on August 28, 2016, 08:52:49 PM
Still can't believe they didn't tear it all down and start over.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 28, 2016, 09:01:48 PM
Don't Moron have enough fast food joints now?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 28, 2016, 09:05:26 PM
Still can't believe they didn't tear it all down and start over.

It may have something to do with holding the increase in property taxes down...   

the owner can maintain that it's an 'old' building and not a new one!!!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on August 29, 2016, 01:03:01 PM
It may have something to do with holding the increase in property taxes down...   

the owner can maintain that it's an 'old' building and not a new one!!!

I wonder if it is a brownfield site....  and by just building on they didn't have to remediate it.

Old dealership....  you know they weren't always so environmentally conscience about how they disposed of fluids.

Maybe this allowed them to keep the "goodness" in?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 30, 2016, 09:21:21 AM
I wonder if it is a brownfield site....  and by just building on they didn't have to remediate it.

Old dealership....  you know they weren't always so environmentally conscience about how they disposed of fluids.

Maybe this allowed them to keep the "goodness" in?


I thought that was to help keep the weeds down! 

Not only possible but highly probable right there.  MonroeTown FD had a very small fuel spill and the cleanup bill was astronomical because the limestone is so close to the surface all through there.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on August 30, 2016, 12:58:45 PM

I thought that was to help keep the weeds down! 

Not only possible but highly probable right there.  MonroeTown FD had a very small fuel spill and the cleanup bill was astronomical because the limestone is so close to the surface all through there.

For sure!

Used to keep weeds down around buildings, and dust down on back roads for years.  Also ideal for getting the brush pile going good and hot - along with those extra used tires you through in down in the bottom of the pile.

How the times have changed!

I never understood what the big deal was.  It came out of the ground - you were just putting it back?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 30, 2016, 01:18:39 PM
For sure!

Used to keep weeds down around buildings, and dust down on back roads for years.  Also ideal for getting the brush pile going good and hot - along with those extra used tires you through in down in the bottom of the pile.

How the times have changed!

I never understood what the big deal was.  It came out of the ground - you were just putting it back?

If you don't dilute the used oil too much and pour it on it really won't soak into the ground too far.  The fire will 'cook' it up out of the ground. 

I remember a little old Mom & Pop garage up north where they had just dumped the used engine oil for decades...

nice little ditch right along the railroad tracks.  Always looked nice through there with no weeds or anything growing up ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 30, 2016, 01:25:00 PM
I had to go out N. Dixie this morning to Baker Ace Hardware...

going north on Monroe street and decided to bypass the backup 'downtown' so slipped over to Washington and then to Macomb only to find the bridge closed northbound...

no problem...

I'll just slip down to Winchester Street...

That bridge is closed in both directions....

does anyone ever co-ordinate any of these projects?

Fortunately the bridge on 75 wasn't all tied up with a crash so we could slip across there and get across to Elm and back to N. Dixie!

Going that way I did get to see that the partially burned train station is GONE!!!

A railroad guy was there working on the signals and I asked him when they tore it down and he said he noticed it was gone yesterday and had been there the last time he worked down this way.  He said they were still filling the hole with dirt yesterday so they probably did it all in one day.

Anyone else see it?

I did get a picture I'll post later.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 30, 2016, 10:48:55 PM
Isn't Baker by the Dinkass bridge?  I bought my last Lincoln Tig there and my Hypertherm Plasma cutter too.  They have the best commercial pricing of any wholesaler.  The gas isn't cheap however.  AirGas in Toledo is much better price wise.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 31, 2016, 08:25:11 AM
Isn't Baker by the Dinkass bridge?  I bought my last Lincoln Tig there and my Hypertherm Plasma cutter too.  They have the best commercial pricing of any wholesaler.  The gas isn't cheap however.  AirGas in Toledo is much better price wise.


Yes, that is Baker's.  They have 7 locations around SE Michigan and NW Ohio but Monroe is the only one with an Ace Hardware.

http://www.bakersgas.com/store-locations.html (http://www.bakersgas.com/store-locations.html)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 31, 2016, 02:05:50 PM
They have a nice website too.  I find the store cluttered myself and most of the ordinary stuff the sell, is cheaper at Menards.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 31, 2016, 04:59:18 PM
They have a nice website too.  I find the store cluttered myself and most of the ordinary stuff the sell, is cheaper at Menards.

Cheaper at Menard's if I can offset the drive...

We only spent about $23 and it's over 20 miles round trip to Menard's so wouldn't have made it this time. 

Actually I was getting some stainless steel screws and washers and Baker's has a lot bigger stock than Menard's has...  plus at Baker's I can buy individual pieces and at Menard's you have to get them in a big with their pre-determined numbers and higher prices.

I also had to get a funnel with a mesh screen and the one at Baker's was made in the US of A...

I'm sure it would have been less at Menard's but I doubt I would have found one made in the USA ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 31, 2016, 09:59:15 PM
I bought a new gasoline can at Menards a few weeks ago.  Made in USA metal 'Eagle' with no stupid anti spill spout.  The new EPA mandated gas cans suck big time....

If I want stainless or allow screws or anything special fastener wise, I go to Ace in Dundee next to Kroger.  I needed some metric cup point set screws the other day.  They had them.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on September 08, 2016, 07:10:45 PM
Saw they were putting up a few trusses and the HVA equipment on the roof at the former Friendly Ford building across from Kroger this afternoon. 

And nothing new on the Jimmy John's shop!

Stopped at the mall...

they've actually built a wall with a small door to close off the entrance to Olga's...

There are still pictures on the wall and chairs upside down on tables...

looks like they just cleaned up and closed up last night and did't open back up this morning.  I didn't notice the cash register...  maybe it was behind the new wall or maybe thy took it along to the new store!

There is one 'new' 'shop' at the mall...

They've closed off what was the cell phone store and in the front 10 or so feet of it they have a TCBY Yogurt self vending machine.  There are a couple of small tables with chairs too.  It must be fairly new as there were a few teens there looking it all over...   but, like us, they weren't putting any cash in the slot!!!

It looks like this although this one is in a much, much busier mall:

Introducing the TCBY vending machine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9ANInsExMI#)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on September 09, 2016, 10:22:14 AM
When we went into town yesterday we turned east on Jones off S. Monroe...

first thing we noticed was the American flag at Navarre field was flying at half staff...

then I noticed the one at the State Police Post was also at half staff...

I guess we did't go by any more flags while we were in town but I got to wondering later who had died...

couldn't find anything online (did find a website that keeps track of flag honors by state).  Maybe they were just getting a jump on the 9-11 memorials for Sunday?

Or was this a local honor that I missed?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on September 09, 2016, 10:30:42 AM
I passed one of the short yellow buses yesterday...   didn't notice if it was an ISD bus or a Monroe Public bus (it was in the city limits)...

In my rear view mirror I saw the alternating red lights come on and the 'stop' sign swinging out!  Noticed that the red lights appeared to be multiple strobes or maybe LEDs...   not just blinking n and off but out of synch enough to make it really eye catching!

Are all yellow buses going to this type of lighting?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: rwwjr on September 09, 2016, 10:34:21 AM
I passed one of the short yellow buses yesterday...   didn't notice if it was an ISD bus or a Monroe Public bus (it was in the city limits)...

In my rear view mirror I saw the alternating red lights come on and the 'stop' sign swinging out!  Noticed that the red lights appeared to be multiple strobes or maybe LEDs...   not just blinking n and off but out of synch enough to make it really eye catching!

Our new buses (2 years old) have the regular flashing lights  I think we have 1, maybe 2 of the type with strobe type lights  These are the full size buses

Are all yellow buses going to this type of lighting?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: rwwjr on September 09, 2016, 10:35:52 AM
When we went into town yesterday we turned east on Jones off S. Monroe...

first thing we noticed was the American flag at Navarre field was flying at half staff...

then I noticed the one at the State Police Post was also at half staff...

I guess we did't go by any more flags while we were in town but I got to wondering later who had died...

couldn't find anything online (did find a website that keeps track of flag honors by state).  Maybe they were just getting a jump on the 9-11 memorials for Sunday?

Or was this a local honor that I missed?

I am signed up to receive e-mails from both the the Sate of Michigan and the federal gov't notifying me when to put flag at half staff, but have not received a thing.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on September 09, 2016, 11:12:10 AM
I did  a little more than a quick search and can't find why flags are half staff today although i did find one web site that offered a calendar for when to fly.  Today was blocked out but there was no explanation.  However Sunday 9/11 wasn't blocked.  so forget that place
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on September 09, 2016, 12:02:32 PM
I would say the 15th anniversary of 9/11 may be why.

I wonder how many fine players will sit during the anthem Sunday?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on September 09, 2016, 04:04:41 PM
If the media ignored the ignorant morons they would  stop it.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on September 12, 2016, 12:50:58 AM
I would say the 15th anniversary of 9/11 may be why.

I wonder how many fine players will sit during the anthem Sunday?

You won't find em at a Nascar race or most college football games -   
Pro Athletes aren't usually in the protest for anything other than more $$ mode
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on September 12, 2016, 10:44:30 AM
Any professional athlete who sits out the anthem should at a minimum be suspended without pay at least that game if not more for unsportsmanlike conduct.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: T-M-T on September 12, 2016, 11:02:58 AM
You won't find em at a Nascar race or most college football games -   
Pro Athletes aren't usually in the protest for anything other than more $$ mode
Any professional athlete who sits out the anthem should at a minimum be suspended without pay at least that game if not more for unsportsmanlike conduct.

Chet Lemon and Lou Whitaker never stood for the anthem.  I don't remember too many people making a fuss.  Their religion (as does every other religion that strictly follows the Bible) forbade them from idolatry of a flag or a song.  Should they have been suspended?

Kaepernick and the others are looking for attention and they are getting plenty of it.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on September 12, 2016, 11:20:23 AM
I would be more impressed if the athletes took some of their money and tried to help. 
I'm pretty sure they don't because they seem to like attention and surely would want to publicize that effort.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on September 12, 2016, 11:42:17 AM
I don't get too upset about people expressing their constitutional right of freedom of expression.  I may not support their stance and cause, but they do have that right.  Just like personal issues I may have with some people, I simply elect to ignore them and not bring attention to the cause.  Now, I don't know that I'd much care if they had to be carried off the field due to retaliation but they need to prepare themselves for it.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: eriemermaid on September 12, 2016, 10:38:53 PM
People may see me next week as I will be camping in Monroe County.  If anyone would like to get together for breakfast, lunch or dinner, let me know :) !!

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on September 13, 2016, 12:42:01 AM
People may see me next week as I will be camping in Monroe County.  If anyone would like to get together for breakfast, lunch or dinner, let me know :) !!


Will do!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on September 28, 2016, 08:15:41 PM
They've at least got the former Friendly Ford building looking a lot better.  Looks like they're ready to pave the parking lot.

They've put up several galvanized steel studs at the Jimmy John's site.   There are some more of the red primered  structural pieces laying on the ground...   none of them are very big and I'd be a little concerned that they may 'walk' off.

I went up Telegraph and across Stewart this morning.  When I turned the corner I noticed on the east corner of the former Quatro's site that they have one of those (worthless) low profile signs and it does show an 'entrance' to Burger King right on the sign.  I wanted to try to count parking places but traffic was too heavy.  I'll have to drive through I guess.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on September 28, 2016, 09:44:18 PM
They seem to work on Jimmy John's one day then leave for a week, wonder what the problem is?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on September 28, 2016, 09:47:52 PM
I've been told there is so much commercial and residential construction in southern mich and northern Ohio they can't keep up. And rather than turn down jobs they work them all in and when owners scream they do a little work then move on to the next screamer..
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on October 07, 2016, 10:32:52 AM
Saw a few small planes flying around Ida last night...   

maybe they were having some kind of a 'rally'?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 07, 2016, 02:25:51 PM
I've been told there is so much commercial and residential construction in southern mich and northern Ohio they can't keep up. And rather than turn down jobs they work them all in and when owners scream they do a little work then move on to the next screamer..

Problem is, contractors cannot get skilled help.  Cannot even get unskilled help.  Kids don't want to work today.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on October 07, 2016, 04:02:53 PM
Looks like they've got all the steel up at Jimmy John's...

there's a big bundle of some kind of sheeting laying on the ground.

Down the road at the former Friendly Ford building they still have't done the parking lot but there is a crew there putting the foam sheeting on the front of the building...   probably prepping to spray it with texture.

Problem is, contractors cannot get skilled help.  Cannot even get unskilled help.  Kids don't want to work today.

They can get the skilled help if they're willing to pay for it...

I think a lot of these places are just in a holding pattern until they see what happens with the election!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on October 11, 2016, 02:24:41 PM
Went up Telegraph and then east on 7th street earlier...

as we went around the curve by the Lake Erie Transit garage there was a man in the middle (right on the lines) of the street with a big yellow fiberglass pole he was holding up to some wires.  As we got closer I saw that he had hooked the top of the pole over a wire and he bent down and looking at something...   I figured he was reading the height of the wires.

I don't ever recall seeing that before and there was nothing I could see that indicated who he worked for. 

There are so many fire department calls for wires pulled down by a vehicle.  I've had to call one in like that myself.  They're usually just communication wires and those calls cost money and take time away from more critical calls.  And obviously most of them could be prevented with a little preventive maintenance.  Maybe that's what I saw this morning...   I hope so.

Also saw that they've got most of that sheeting up and in place on the Jimmy John's store...

it looks like it's all treated plywood!!!

Must have had to replace too much wafer board over the years when their Dry Vit (I know that's a trade name and I really mean whatever that process is) job let some water through the outer shell :( :( :(

They have the front of the new auto parts store on the south side of Mickey D's all finished and even painted red.  Looks like they're waiting on glass but they have it all framed.  They're digging a big hole at the back of the building...   I imagine it's for a grade level loading dock for semi trailers!  I wonder if they ran into limestone?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on October 11, 2016, 06:57:07 PM
It might be a detention pond for the parking lot
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on October 12, 2016, 09:43:32 AM
It might be a detention pond for the parking lot

It is literally right at the very back of the building and it slopes up toward the east.  That's a pretty big parcel there (5+ac?) so they should have room for a pond if they have to do one.  I'm just thinking there aren't any right along there...   maybe the storm sewers are big enough to handle the runoff?  Maybe with the limestone so close to there surface it makes it more difficult to put one in?  Maybe by using the old building they didn't need one? 

Seems like it is a ratio of improvement to current value that triggers some of the 'newer' guidelines...   been several years since I did anything like that in Monroe Charter so not for sure anymore.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on October 12, 2016, 05:06:54 PM
Almost any improvement anymore especially if you add parking requires you to adhere to the updated storm drainage standards. Friendly has been adding a lot of parking with the new building and the even newer body shop in back so I would say almost certainly it has to do with detention.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 12, 2016, 07:50:14 PM
The tit for tat wetlands crap in my opinion has went way too far.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on October 12, 2016, 08:39:43 PM
What do you have against man made swamps?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on October 13, 2016, 09:53:58 AM
Almost any improvement anymore especially if you add parking requires you to adhere to the updated storm drainage standards. Friendly has been adding a lot of parking with the new building and the even newer body shop in back so I would say almost certainly it has to do with detention.

When they did the makeover on the Kroger store along with a major building expansion and complete repaving of the parking lot and moving the fuel center they didn't install any additional storm water control (at least not that I saw and I watched it pretty close).  Admittedly, in the case of the Kroger store they actually lost some parking places although the square footage of 'paved over' stayed exactly the same. 

The  store is literally directly across the street from the new fuel station. 

I'm not saying they won't be doing a retention pond on the new parts store site...

only saying I don't think this is what they're doing now.  They're getting ready to do the paving and the hole they've dug is literally right against the foundation in the back of the building. 

Actually, I'm not sure that there isn't a pond back there somewhere...   it's a big parcel.  I'm thinking Plum Creek may actually border the property in the back.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on October 13, 2016, 09:56:19 AM
The tit for tat wetlands crap in my opinion has went way too far.

Actually it's more like 1.5 tits for a tat...
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on October 13, 2016, 10:00:36 AM
I understand most of Toledo was the black swamp many years ago.  Maybe they should consider recreating it again.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on October 13, 2016, 10:06:47 AM
I understand most of Toledo was the black swamp many years ago.  Maybe they should consider recreating it again.

I think the Black Swamp actually covered part of what is now southern Monroe County too.  I saw something on that recently.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on October 13, 2016, 12:58:43 PM
OMG !!
You are talking about the old Ford dealer and I was talking about the new Friendly North of town.
Now I have to drive by the old.

Maybe it is a loading dock. Maybe they are cleaning some contaminated soil.

My bad !!!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 13, 2016, 01:04:54 PM
I understand most of Toledo was the black swamp many years ago.  Maybe they should consider recreating it again.

Still is, far as I can tell.... ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on October 13, 2016, 06:18:51 PM
OMG !!
You are talking about the old Ford dealer and I was talking about the new Friendly North of town.
Now I have to drive by the old.

Maybe it is a loading dock. Maybe they are cleaning some contaminated soil.

My bad !!!

That could be a possibility too... 

come to think of it I haven't seen them doing any cleanup since they've been working...

hard to imagine over the years that there wasn't at least some contamination there!!!

I'll keep an eye on it.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on October 13, 2016, 08:45:52 PM
I went by earlier. It is a huge hole. Not really deep but the whole back lot basically and right up to the building in some places. definitely not just building a loading pit.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on October 14, 2016, 09:28:48 AM
I went by earlier. It is a huge hole. Not really deep but the whole back lot basically and right up to the building in some places. definitely not just building a loading pit.

I watched them one day from the McDonalds parking lot loading old concrete and blocks and parking lot pieces so they're not just burying stuff. 

The length it was going back from the building is what was making me wonder how long a loading ramp they were building. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tea Party Patriot on October 14, 2016, 09:46:31 AM
I watched them one day from the McDonalds parking lot loading old concrete and blocks and parking lot pieces so they're not just burying stuff. 

The length it was going back from the building is what was making me wonder how long a loading ramp they were building.
Dude do you do anything on your own or are you just be a creepy stalker all day listening to people on your scanner and driving around watching people ? You don't wear a clown outfit do you? My Mom God rest her soul would have called you a busy body.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on October 14, 2016, 09:53:17 AM
Dude do you do anything on your own or are you just be a creepy stalker all day listening to people on your scanner and driving around watching people ? You don't wear a clown outfit do you? My Mom God rest her soul would have called you a busy body.

Are you aware that there is an 'ignore' function built right into the forum software ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on October 14, 2016, 07:47:47 PM
I went by earlier. It is a huge hole. Not really deep but the whole back lot basically and right up to the building in some places. definitely not just building a loading pit.

I finally got by there about 6 this evening...

that hole is 20 times what I saw a few days ago.  I saw an empty truck just pulling in just as I was leaving.  It certainly appears they're hauling dirt off site.  I would think the only reason for that would be that there is some contamination. 

When I first noticed it they only piles of dirt were right behind that 'trench' I was talking about that was right at the north edge of the back of the building.  Now they have mountains of dirt piled back there. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: arpydave on October 15, 2016, 06:39:29 AM
Dude do you do anything on your own or are you just be a creepy stalker all day listening to people on your scanner and driving around watching people ? You don't wear a clown outfit do you? My Mom God rest her soul would have called you a busy body.

After my hiatus from this forum, it's interesting to see you're still out there trolling.

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: excelsior on October 15, 2016, 10:37:40 AM
After my hiatus from this forum, it's interesting to see you're still out there trolling.

The troll typically has the weekend off.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 15, 2016, 01:17:27 PM
MCRC put reflectors on the curve on Deerfield road heading into P'Burg (on the centerline), I presume to warn drivers where the center is....  A few have come off already....lol
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on October 15, 2016, 11:13:11 PM
I finally got by there about 6 this evening...

that hole is 20 times what I saw a few days ago.  I saw an empty truck just pulling in just as I was leaving.  It certainly appears they're hauling dirt off site.  I would think the only reason for that would be that there is some contamination. 

When I first noticed it they only piles of dirt were right behind that 'trench' I was talking about that was right at the north edge of the back of the building.  Now they have mountains of dirt piled back there. 


Hell of a swimming pool.

(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab249/ka8ebi/hole_zpsubasgoqt.jpg)

(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab249/ka8ebi/hole2_zpswz2ud6a8.jpg)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on October 16, 2016, 06:38:29 PM
After my hiatus from this forum, it's interesting to see you're still out there trolling.

TPP gets a B+ for persistence.

However - for content - FAIL.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: rwwjr on October 17, 2016, 09:47:32 AM
Actually it's more like 1.5 tits for a tat...

But how many tats on a ......  Never mind
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Mayonnaise on October 18, 2016, 06:45:53 PM
Anybody else see these trucks and think...
(http://messinaconcrete.com/_imgstore/9/2137049/page_home_ffwIQqrVllB34jGKo7tI8/DEL4ArFJfMGQAWkJFsEWgRCVgn8.png)
Where's Loggins?
;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on October 20, 2016, 12:38:29 PM
The troll typically has the weekend off.
Work release?     I think he's trying to figure out how to win back his losings by betting on other sure things like the Lions making the playoffs,  or the over under of MSU winning 2 more games this year  (I haven't looked to see if Rutgers is on the schedule)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on October 20, 2016, 12:41:22 PM
While not new - I'm still curious about the thorn between two remodeled roses...   the Chinese abandoned restaurant on S. Monroe   between   the Nissan and GMC dealers
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tea Party Patriot on October 20, 2016, 01:00:42 PM
Work release?     I think he's trying to figure out how to win back his losings by betting on other sure things like the Lions making the playoffs,  or the over under of MSU winning 2 more games this year  (I haven't looked to see if Rutgers is on the schedule)
LOL  Here's whats left
Maryland Sure win
Michigan Sure win
Illinois Sure Win
Rutgers Sure Win
Ohio State Tossup
PennState Sure win
5 or 6 wins left plus the bowl game.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 20, 2016, 04:28:05 PM
The overpass and approaches at 23 and Ida West are coming along nicely.  If heading west on the new ultra smooth pavement, just be sure to slow for the railroad tracks, they didn't do squat with them and they are rougher than heck.

Typical half done job by the infamous Road Commish...
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: excelsior on October 20, 2016, 05:03:08 PM
Work release?     I think he's trying to figure out how to win back his losings by betting on other sure things like the Lions making the playoffs,  or the over under of MSU winning 2 more games this year  (I haven't looked to see if Rutgers is on the schedule)

More likely that his Bookie has a daytime job so TPP can leave his spider hole during the week without fear.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on October 20, 2016, 06:54:03 PM
While not new - I'm still curious about the thorn between two remodeled roses...   the Chinese abandoned restaurant on S. Monroe   between   the Nissan and GMC dealers

Gerwecks bought it.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on October 20, 2016, 07:36:01 PM
Gerwecks bought it.

Yep.  Expanding their lot.  Room to expand the dealership.

Smart.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on October 21, 2016, 09:51:30 AM
Hell of a swimming pool.

([url]http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab249/ka8ebi/hole_zpsubasgoqt.jpg[/url])

([url]http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab249/ka8ebi/hole2_zpswz2ud6a8.jpg[/url])


The swimming pool is getting smaller.  They've hauled in a lot of stone and getting a grade in to lay asphalt in the front it looks like.  Still hard to tell if they're just pushing the dirt around in the back or if they're hauling some of it away. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on October 21, 2016, 11:05:20 AM
The overpass and approaches at 23 and Ida West are coming along nicely.  If heading west on the new ultra smooth pavement, just be sure to slow for the railroad tracks, they didn't do squat with them and they are rougher than heck.

Typical half done job by the infamous Road Commish...

The road commission can't touch any active railroad track crossings...

those all have to be done by the railroad themselves and they do them on 'their' schedule and that schedule seldom has anything to do with when they're too rough to be safe anymore.  They have a rotation schedule and that's what they go by...

and they typically do them by closing several crossings in succession because it's more convenient to them.

Again...

no concern for safety!  I guess they figure emergency response vehicles can just go the long way around without any consequences :o :o :o

There are many cases right here in Monroe County of railroads not being held accountable for safety issues they create...

but going back a couple of hundred years they have 'law' on their side...

they are above all laws except their own!!!

And among their lowest priority is repairing a rough crossing!

I guess you could always sue if you damage your vehicle...

but I'm pretty sure they're exempt from most civil liability too.

Congress needs to work on this...

I wonder how much the various railroad donate to campaigns per year?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on May 19, 2017, 09:26:04 AM
When we got home from Florida the Jimmy John's on S. Monroe had lots of scaffolding around it but that has now been taken down.  Never seem to see more than one or two people working around there at a time. 

Wondering if maybe they're not allowed to open until a certain date?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on May 19, 2017, 09:42:16 AM
That's interesting on the railroad crossings.  But i guess i knew the railroads were the ones to maintain the surface at the crossings. 
It just seems that road construction crews may just be better prepared to fix the crossings when they repair or redo the roadways leading up to the crossings.  That's what they do.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on May 28, 2017, 08:28:51 AM
I noticed the huge US Flag flying in the HiLite parking lot yesterday.  A nice new pole shining in the sun really set it off. 

Now the big question...   when did they install that? 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 01, 2017, 03:38:44 PM
Several new traffic lights hanging at the Dunbar / Telegraph intersection.  They're still hanging horizontal and not operating but they're ready for something soon.  I wonder if MDOT is putting in a computer controlled light similar to what has been at the Dunbar / S.Dixie intersection for a few years now? 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on June 01, 2017, 09:18:38 PM
Hi-Lite is having a ribbon cutting ceremony June 5th.

https://www.facebook.com/hilitefreshmarket/?rf=121130084603350 (https://www.facebook.com/hilitefreshmarket/?rf=121130084603350)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on June 05, 2017, 11:40:57 PM
Several new traffic lights hanging at the Dunbar / Telegraph intersection.  They're still hanging horizontal and not operating but they're ready for something soon.  I wonder if MDOT is putting in a computer controlled light similar to what has been at the Dunbar / S.Dixie intersection for a few years now? 
Did they remove the left turn lights that were covered up for a year - or are they going to include them is the question!       Traffic engineers aren't full of common sense it seems.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on June 05, 2017, 11:42:42 PM
I noticed the huge US Flag flying in the HiLite parking lot yesterday.  A nice new pole shining in the sun really set it off. 

Now the big question...   when did they install that? 
Must be what I saw - straight out from the entrance - as they had a large footer poured,  I thought it was going to be a light.   I'll have to drive that way tomorrow and check it out.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 06, 2017, 06:50:22 AM
The roads in Summerfield Township are getting appreciably smoother...  Caddilac Asphalt is pretty busy these days....

John Chandler seems to be a good supervisor far as infrastructure is concerned.  I've not seen roads being taken care of in recent times like they have been lately.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on June 06, 2017, 08:10:27 AM
Cadillac just paved a couple of sections in Raisinville and Exeter twp too and signs up make it look like even more are going to be done. They certainly do nice work. Get in, get it done and get out. What a concept !!!  And, right now their prices can't be beat.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 06, 2017, 09:14:32 AM
Must be what I saw - straight out from the entrance - as they had a large footer poured,  I thought it was going to be a light.   I'll have to drive that way tomorrow and check it out.

Drove by last night and there was a better view (not as many cars in the parking lot).  Yes, it's straight out from the entrance and where you would expect a light to be.  Not sure if they re-did the parking lot lights (brighter LEDs don't need as many poles or lights to provide better lighting) too.  It does look like they've been busier around there than I remember.  We'll have to stop by one of these days and see how the interior looks.  I was in there about a  year ago when they were working on it and like any construction project 'in progress' it was a mess!!!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 06, 2017, 09:16:34 AM
Cadillac just paved a couple of sections in Raisinville and Exeter twp too and signs up make it look like even more are going to be done. They certainly do nice work. Get in, get it done and get out. What a concept !!!  And, right now their prices can't be beat.

Is that due to the cost of the raw asphalt and related materials?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on June 06, 2017, 10:15:14 AM
Smith road in Bedford township between Lewis and telegraph was just fixed and repaved.  Didn't notice who did the work but didn't see an blue trucks...They dug out the bad sections, repaired and then repaved the whole road.  it's a superb job.  Blended in all the approaches too
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 06, 2017, 02:17:23 PM
Is that due to the cost of the raw asphalt and related materials?

Kind of a long story.  Maybe Mav will elaborate....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on June 06, 2017, 04:56:09 PM
Is that due to the cost of the raw asphalt and related materials?

I would think the low cost of oil would be a big part of it?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on June 07, 2017, 10:25:09 AM
Well. for starters, The road commission just borrowed $3,000,000 to do a bunch of projects all at once in the county. So when they took bids they had more buying power. Probably the biggest reason that Cadillac bid lowest is that their material costs can be adjusted substantially in their favor because their parent company Old Castle owns the local StoneCo quarries and a company that imports large quantities of liquid asphalt into the port of Monroe. When you have an advantage on the input side you can bid lower than your competition.
The other factor that helps a lot is that Cadillac has the machines and the manpower to get in and get the job done efficiently and get out. The less time you spend on a job the better it is for the bottom line and consequently the lower you can bid a job.
In the end I think they are doing a great job at least on all of the roads I am watching.

Not sure if thats the same perspective as Flip but there you have it !!!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 08, 2017, 12:08:33 AM
I knew you'd know Mav....

BTW, didn't the Road Commish sell all their paving equipment?

Doing (did) a bang up job on Teal road, I got to watch various stages.  Even did the approach aprons on all the residential drives.  Did it right with the semi-permiable (sic) membrane under the blacktop so it last a long time.  Smooth as a baby's butt now.  I know John Chandler was impressed.  Told me so....

I see the Road Commish is doing the rail crossing on Ida West this week.  BRD posted that only the railroad can do the crossings but the MCRC is doing that one (by Road Commish Drive).  What gives with that??

Looks like the frontage acreage on Ida West (MCRC ground) is sold....  next to Advanta.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on June 08, 2017, 10:00:42 AM
Same kind of job on Smith road Side.  Really impressed with materials and workmanship.  In and out in a few days with little disruption.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 08, 2017, 04:55:11 PM
I knew you'd know Mav....

BTW, didn't the Road Commish sell all their paving equipment?

Doing (did) a bang up job on Teal road, I got to watch various stages.  Even did the approach aprons on all the residential drives.  Did it right with the semi-permiable (sic) membrane under the blacktop so it last a long time.  Smooth as a baby's butt now.  I know John Chandler was impressed.  Told me so....

I see the Road Commish is doing the rail crossing on Ida West this week.  BRD posted that only the railroad can do the crossings but the MCRC is doing that one (by Road Commish Drive).  What gives with that??

Looks like the frontage acreage on Ida West (MCRC ground) is sold....  next to Advanta.


The only thing I can figure is that the Railroad (is that the Ann Arbor Railroad there) doesn't do their own crossing maintenance and they contract it out and the MCRC was the low bidder.  Probably lowest because they will only have to move equipment a quarter of a mile!

Quote
Maintaining Crossing Surfaces
Crossing surface conditions should be comparable to the condition of the adjacent roadway. Safety concerns regarding crossing surfaces can be addressed through the DSTR process. MDOT provides limited funding for grade-crossing surface work on state and local roadways.

Railroads are responsible for maintaining surfaces from the middle of the rails to one foot beyond the end of the ties. Road authorities are responsible for the remainder.
Most crossing surfaces should extend to the curb lines or two feet beyond each shoulder.
Crossings should not be raised more than one inch without mutual agreement between the railroad and road authority.


The above (along with a lot of other info) is directly from MDOT which apparently goes by Federal guidelines:

http://www.michigan.gov/mdot/0,4616,7-151-22444_56486-343808--,00.html (http://www.michigan.gov/mdot/0,4616,7-151-22444_56486-343808--,00.html)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 08, 2017, 05:04:49 PM
Well. for starters, The road commission just borrowed $3,000,000 to do a bunch of projects all at once in the county. So when they took bids they had more buying power. Probably the biggest reason that Cadillac bid lowest is that their material costs can be adjusted substantially in their favor because their parent company Old Castle owns the local StoneCo quarries and a company that imports large quantities of liquid asphalt into the port of Monroe. When you have an advantage on the input side you can bid lower than your competition.
The other factor that helps a lot is that Cadillac has the machines and the manpower to get in and get the job done efficiently and get out. The less time you spend on a job the better it is for the bottom line and consequently the lower you can bid a job.
In the end I think they are doing a great job at least on all of the roads I am watching.

Not sure if thats the same perspective as Flip but there you have it !!!

The MCRC needs to get back down to the bank (or wherever) and get a bigger bag of money before interest rates and / or the cost of materials goes up! 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 08, 2017, 05:08:38 PM
Same kind of job on Smith road Side.  Really impressed with materials and workmanship.  In and out in a few days with little disruption.

I've always thought these road projects should have a sign put up when the contractor is done showing the name of the company and the date and range of the work.  Two years from now a repaired stretch will be falling apart and no one will remember 'who' fixed it.  And of course even then the contractor just says "we built it to County or State or Federal standards"...   "don't blame us"!!!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 08, 2017, 05:21:19 PM
Did they remove the left turn lights that were covered up for a year - or are they going to include them is the question!       Traffic engineers aren't full of common sense it seems.

My wife and I were just having that discussion this afternoon after a FedEx truck made a 'right on red' and just pulled right out in front of us.  Probably on his phone >:( >:( >:(

As nice as the r on r law is it seems like it is getting abused more and more.  Some drivers seem like you're in their 'right of way' rather than the other way around. 

I just noticed they had several lights tied up...  maybe they're not brand new and have been hanging there longer.  You check 'em out and see what you think.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on June 08, 2017, 11:00:38 PM
I said $3,000,000 but I think it was $5,000,000. They bonded while interest rates were low so they did what you suggested and are trying to get more bang for their buck. That money also leveraged more federal grant money and cost share arrangements with local townships so the net effect of that borrowing was way greater.
I do believe they have sold all of their paving machines. They should have never bought them in the first place. Let real road builders build roads !!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 09, 2017, 09:48:35 AM
I knew you'd know Mav....

BTW, didn't the Road Commish sell all their paving equipment?

Doing (did) a bang up job on Teal road, I got to watch various stages.  Even did the approach aprons on all the residential drives.  Did it right with the semi-permiable (sic) membrane under the blacktop so it last a long time.  Smooth as a baby's butt now.  I know John Chandler was impressed.  Told me so....

I see the Road Commish is doing the rail crossing on Ida West this week.  BRD posted that only the railroad can do the crossings but the MCRC is doing that one (by Road Commish Drive).  What gives with that??

Looks like the frontage acreage on Ida West (MCRC ground) is sold....  next to Advanta.

I checked the Register of Deeds online and don't see where the Road Commission shows up in any recent sales...   checked it a couple of different ways and still didn't find anything. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 11, 2017, 10:21:43 AM
The only thing I can figure is that the Railroad (is that the Ann Arbor Railroad there) doesn't do their own crossing maintenance and they contract it out and the MCRC was the low bidder.  Probably lowest because they will only have to move equipment a quarter of a mile!

The above (along with a lot of other info) is directly from MDOT which apparently goes by Federal guidelines:

[url]http://www.michigan.gov/mdot/0,4616,7-151-22444_56486-343808--,00.html[/url] ([url]http://www.michigan.gov/mdot/0,4616,7-151-22444_56486-343808--,00.html[/url])


I got to thinking and that crossing is not the Ann Arbor Railroad.  I actually had to do a little digging to see who owns it now.  At one time we had quite a discussion about it belonging to Henry Ford but it is now owned by the Indiana and Ohio Railway.  Some references call them a 'short line' and others call them a regional railroad.  Either way, they most likely don't have their own maintenance crews so would have to contract out any rail crossing repairs.

http://www.american-rails.com/iory.html (http://www.american-rails.com/iory.html)

They only actually own the tracks in Michigan from Diann to the state line.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/1f/28/02/1f2802dcd26fd6c4244b409839bc7741.jpg)

Now I'm curious who owns the tracks from Diann on up to Flat Rock!?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 11, 2017, 09:04:46 PM
I checked the Register of Deeds online and don't see where the Road Commission shows up in any recent sales...   checked it a couple of different ways and still didn't find anything.

Maybe I should say it's pending and thats on good information.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 11, 2017, 09:06:56 PM
I said $3,000,000 but I think it was $5,000,000. They bonded while interest rates were low so they did what you suggested and are trying to get more bang for their buck. That money also leveraged more federal grant money and cost share arrangements with local townships so the net effect of that borrowing was way greater.
I do believe they have sold all of their paving machines. They should have never bought them in the first place. Let real road builders build roads !!

There are a lot of things the MCRC should not be doing like...being in the real estate business...
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 15, 2017, 06:26:24 PM
Several new traffic lights hanging at the Dunbar / Telegraph intersection.  They're still hanging horizontal and not operating but they're ready for something soon.  I wonder if MDOT is putting in a computer controlled light similar to what has been at the Dunbar / S.Dixie intersection for a few years now?

We went up Telegraph this morning and MDOT (contractor maybe) had the new lights hanging down and partially working plus they already had the old lights removed.  Nice new left turn lights for all 4 directions!!!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 15, 2017, 10:23:37 PM
Ida West crossing, no change since last week....  Talk about 'killing a job' this is it.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 16, 2017, 08:33:02 AM
Ida West crossing, no change since last week....  Talk about 'killing a job' this is it.

And if the MCRC is on their 10 hour 4 day 'work' week then you won't see anything happening today either ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 16, 2017, 08:44:49 AM
Ida West crossing, no change since last week....  Talk about 'killing a job' this is it.

I see that there are 'road closed at RxR' signs up on S. Dixie at S. Otter Creek.  We'll see how long it takes them to do that crossing or crossings. 

That is a crossing that originally built with very steep and short approaches.  I've seen a few vehicles 'jump' there and there were plenty of gouges in the road from other Dukes of Hazzard wannabes.  The road commission did go in there and raise the approaches and lengthen out quite a bit.  Now you can at least cross without having to come to a crawl. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: NewDawn on June 16, 2017, 02:29:56 PM
On my way to work yesterday morning.  :O         * 19105783_830229813807296_8128313631351289671_n.jpg                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: NewDawn on June 16, 2017, 02:36:04 PM
This is 'Lake Monroe" the old France Stone Quarry.

There are more pics on Jim's Towing Facebook.     Someone was high as a kite and decided to park by the lake.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 16, 2017, 04:29:22 PM
On my way to work yesterday morning.  :O         * 19105783_830229813807296_8128313631351289671_n.jpg                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 

Hard to tell what all happened but it looks like maybe there was a fire in the very front of the vehicle.

We saw about 8 teens walking out of the parking lot of the old Kroger mall on S. Dixie and heading toward the quarry this afternoon so apparently they're still getting in to swim...   just not parking there!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 16, 2017, 04:59:22 PM
That is the reflection of the opposite wall BRD.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: NewDawn on June 17, 2017, 12:24:53 PM
BRD, No fire involved. She and her friends were doped up bad, looking for a place to park. Well, they almost had a watery grave. If you noticed, there isn't a license plate on the car. The city police took it last week (driving on suspended license) and she still is driving it. I am totally surprised that the police don't arrest her and put her in jail again. She is nothing but trouble, has been for sometime.

Jim's towing came to the owner's house to tell the owner and to ask for payment ($100.00) for pulling it out. (per Gross, who knew who the car belonged to)

The tow truck driver added two more pics today, on their facebook page. Incredible!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on June 19, 2017, 01:21:06 PM
BRD, No fire involved. She and her friends were doped up bad, looking for a place to park. Well, they almost had a watery grave. If you noticed, there isn't a license plate on the car. The city police took it last week (driving on suspended license) and she still is driving it. I am totally surprised that the police don't arrest her and put her in jail again. She is nothing but trouble, has been for sometime.

Jim's towing came to the owner's house to tell the owner and to ask for payment ($100.00) for pulling it out. (per Gross, who knew who the car belonged to)

The tow truck driver added two more pics today, on their facebook page. Incredible!
They will likely have to get a lein title or whatever tow companies do when they take possession and aren't paid...   Usually people that high don't pay for much except their habit.     Scrap would likely get them that 100... 

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on June 19, 2017, 11:52:37 PM
Herkimer Radio moved to the small garage next to the old Monroe Diner .
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 20, 2017, 08:48:56 AM
Herkimer Radio moved to the small garage next to the old Monroe Diner .

There was a battery shop and then a tire store and finally a heating place in there the last I remember...   did I miss anything along the way?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on June 20, 2017, 11:14:22 AM
Herkimer Radio moved to the small garage next to the old Monroe Diner .

If memory serves me - that is their original location before they "expanded" to cell phones and a larger building.   
Probably retained ownership of the property and going back to their roots?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on June 20, 2017, 11:18:57 AM
I was just posting the same thing although I was questioning my memory. When I saw the signs I thought " Isn't that where they used to be located "?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 20, 2017, 11:33:09 AM
If memory serves me - that is their original location before they "expanded" to cell phones and a larger building.   
Probably retained ownership of the property and going back to their roots?

I was just posting the same thing although I was questioning my memory. When I saw the signs I thought " Isn't that where they used to be located "?

I just checked the tax info and it shows as Herkimer, Inc. on both parcels.

I wonder if maybe Friendly Ford has made them an offer they can't refuse ??? ??? ???

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on June 20, 2017, 12:43:33 PM
I just checked the tax info and it shows as Herkimer, Inc. on both parcels.

I wonder if maybe Friendly Ford has made them an offer they can't refuse ??? ??? ???


More parking/ storage and another garage...  could be
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 23, 2017, 09:04:42 AM
More parking/ storage and another garage...  could be


Looks pretty bare at the N. Telegraph 'former' location except for a couple of large LE looking SUVs...   one is MSP blue and the other is all black. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 23, 2017, 09:08:05 AM
Ida West crossing, no change since last week....  Talk about 'killing a job' this is it.

I was getting off 23 southbound yesterday and saw that the crossing was open.  Looked like a lot of fresh asphalt on either side of the tracks so maybe they did make the crossing smoother.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on June 23, 2017, 09:42:23 AM
Reading today they are going to be working on a stretch of 23 around Milan the rest of the summer.
Lane closures from 6PM to 6AM
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on June 23, 2017, 11:37:28 PM
Looks pretty bare at the N. Telegraph 'former' location except for a couple of large LE looking SUVs...   one is MSP blue and the other is all black. 
The old location by the Ford dealer is listed for sale for $595,000 I think. Must have been too costly to keep it open or the family wants to cash in.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 25, 2017, 08:47:29 AM
Article from the MonroeNews on the updated traffic lights at Dunbar and Telegraph.


http://www.monroenews.com/news/20170624/new-signals-at-dunbar-telegraph-to-boost-safety (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20170624/new-signals-at-dunbar-telegraph-to-boost-safety)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 25, 2017, 08:56:21 AM
The old location by the Ford dealer is listed for sale for $595,000 I think. Must have been too costly to keep it open or the family wants to cash in.

I would guess that like many other small 'bricks and mortar' retail businesses that probably the internet has taken some of their sales over the years.  Like most other electronics the emergency services radios have gotten more reliable, less expensive and smaller to the point of becoming 'throw away' devices as opposed to what Herkimer did for years...   good service. 

Also, local LE vehicles are staying on the road longer so less need for new installations or switching from one vehicle to another.  Maybe they just don't need as much room any more. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 25, 2017, 10:03:45 AM
The old location by the Ford dealer is listed for sale for $595,000 I think. Must have been too costly to keep it open or the family wants to cash in.


Here's the LoopNet listing on the parcel...   currently at $495K so you've already saved big ;D ;D ;D

http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/20061025/2708-N-Telegraph-Rd-Monroe-MI/ (http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/20061025/2708-N-Telegraph-Rd-Monroe-MI/)


Here's Herkimer's website...   they're still showing the N. Telegraph location.

http://herkimer.radio-dealers.com/home.cfm?did=5dd34d02-96f3-437a-81fe-b5bd17b1094e (http://herkimer.radio-dealers.com/home.cfm?did=5dd34d02-96f3-437a-81fe-b5bd17b1094e)

And now for the 'big' question of the day...

drumroll please...

What was in Herkimer's N. Telegraph building before Herkimers moved up there with the radio shop?

And, for the record, I have no idea what the answer is so I'm relying on members with a better memory than I have :o :o :o
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on June 25, 2017, 04:06:06 PM
Article from the MonroeNews on the updated traffic lights at Dunbar and Telegraph.


[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20170624/new-signals-at-dunbar-telegraph-to-boost-safety[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20170624/new-signals-at-dunbar-telegraph-to-boost-safety[/url])


The lone comment was a good one......half done.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on June 25, 2017, 04:47:46 PM
They could fix the problem on Dunbar by adding a RH turn lane to get onto Telegraph.

My informal traffic study has shown that most cars in the RH lane turn onto Telegraph - but of course one car going through and all the RH turn traffic has to wait for that car through the light, and then traffic backs on up- especially after a train goes through.

Add a RH turn lane - and that goes away......

I'm sure they have the right of way to do it.

Heck - you have TWO lanes going east on Dunbar off Telegraph where you need ONE.

Just reconfigure it.  That side just costs paint.

Done.

Traffic Engineers are DUMB DUMB DUMB.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 25, 2017, 06:01:12 PM
Here's the LoopNet listing on the parcel...   currently at $495K so you've already saved big ;D ;D ;D

[url]http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/20061025/2708-N-Telegraph-Rd-Monroe-MI/[/url] ([url]http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/20061025/2708-N-Telegraph-Rd-Monroe-MI/[/url])


Here's Herkimer's website...   they're still showing the N. Telegraph location.

[url]http://herkimer.radio-dealers.com/home.cfm?did=5dd34d02-96f3-437a-81fe-b5bd17b1094e[/url] ([url]http://herkimer.radio-dealers.com/home.cfm?did=5dd34d02-96f3-437a-81fe-b5bd17b1094e[/url])

And now for the 'big' question of the day...

drumroll please...

What was in Herkimer's N. Telegraph building before Herkimers moved up there with the radio shop?

And, for the record, I have no idea what the answer is so I'm relying on members with a better memory than I have :o :o :o


An adult bookstore?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on June 25, 2017, 06:08:22 PM
An adult bookstore?

Literacy is important, and I'm not sure Moron County is all that good at it....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 25, 2017, 06:19:44 PM
Literacy is important, and I'm not sure Moron County is all that good at it....

You don't have to read with an adult bookstore, just look at the pictures.... ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on June 25, 2017, 10:26:46 PM
My vision sucks so I prefer Braille
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 26, 2017, 08:13:25 AM
I see they're hauling sections of pipe for what I am assuming is the Rover Natural Gas Pipeline through Monroe and then west to the route.  So far I've only seen them heading south on Telegraph between M-50 and as far north as the TSC store. 

This article says they were to be stored at the Port of Monroe prior to installation. 

http://dundeeonline.com/tag/rover-pipeline/ (http://dundeeonline.com/tag/rover-pipeline/)

The pipe I'm seeing on trucks is larger than what is shown in the photo.  They appear to be maybe 80 or so feet long and they're hauling two sections at a time.  They're marked oversize load and each truck has an escort vehicle.  Looks like they must be hauling from the port and going north on 75 to 275 and then to Telegraph and then back south to M-50 and then west toward their target. 

Has anyone seen where they're going on the west end?  That will change obviously as the route progresses from SW to NE. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 26, 2017, 02:43:44 PM
Out M50 to Lenawee County somewhere.  I see them all the time heading west.  That is the oversize route (ran it before with overwidth stuff), 75 north to 275 to Telegraph to M50
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on June 26, 2017, 08:20:01 PM
My vision sucks so I prefer Braille

I'm good at finding the "A."

 ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on June 27, 2017, 09:32:44 AM
http://www.lenconnect.com/news/20170624/pipe-for-et-rover-project-arrives-in-lenawee-county (http://www.lenconnect.com/news/20170624/pipe-for-et-rover-project-arrives-in-lenawee-county)

This may be the link BRD posted the other day
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 28, 2017, 08:41:31 AM
[url]http://www.lenconnect.com/news/20170624/pipe-for-et-rover-project-arrives-in-lenawee-county[/url] ([url]http://www.lenconnect.com/news/20170624/pipe-for-et-rover-project-arrives-in-lenawee-county[/url])

This may be the link BRD posted the other day


I've looked at so many articles (and several were from the Lenawee paper) but I don't think I'd seen that one.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 28, 2017, 09:27:10 AM
Here's a link to the Rover website that explains some of how they use horizontal boring in some areas. 

http://www.roverpipelinefacts.com/ (http://www.roverpipelinefacts.com/)

We were in Monroe last night about 5:15 and saw one of the empty 'pipe trucks' heading north on Telegraph with the escort vehicle following. 

The first day I noticed them hauling south on Telegraph I saw that there were 3 trucks within a very short distance.  Seems like maybe they could spread them out a little more so that traffic could have the opportunity to merge into the right lane which they were all using.  It almost looked like they were in a 'convoy'...

C.W. McCall - Convoy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd5ZLJWQmss#)

Maybe only the first driver knew exactly where they were heading for the day :o :o :o
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 28, 2017, 09:35:03 AM
This is about the best map I've found so far.  Seems like there'd be something a little more detailed  8* 8* 8*

(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/9998a54bd957b5bba8aed63dd4fc35a3ae147225/c=0-0-886-666&r=x408&c=540x405/local/-/media/Livingston/2014/08/28/lcpnewpipeline.eps)

While we were in Florida we watched a similar installation going in for miles and miles while we were driving.  They were definitely glad to not have had much rain since they were definitely in the lowlands and had to cross lots of creeks and rivers.  At times we could see the pipeline construction in the foreground and maybe a mile or two out behind we could see smoke rising from the wildfires and fire crews parked along side the road.  One group wanted rain and the other was happy there wasn't any rain. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 28, 2017, 10:28:27 AM
There have been 2-3-4 white service vans at the 'new' Jimmy John's for the last several days.  Can't see where they're working on the outside so they must really be hitting it heavy on the inside.

I do see now that there is a small dozer sitting on the north side of the building so they must be getting ready to finish the parking lot...

talk about Freaky Fast ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 01, 2017, 08:27:51 AM
WTOL interviews a property owner in Adrian that lives adjacent to the pipe line project.

http://www.wtol.com/story/35791931/rover-pipeline-underway-in-lenawee-county-residents-react (http://www.wtol.com/story/35791931/rover-pipeline-underway-in-lenawee-county-residents-react)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 01, 2017, 05:00:09 PM
It is what it is.  Reminds me of Line 5.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 01, 2017, 07:53:12 PM
It is what it is.  Reminds me of Line 5.

What was surprising to me in the WTOL video is she as much as said that they didn't pay much attention to the pipeline project until they literally were burning trees in her back yard. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 05, 2017, 07:18:16 PM
More complaints on the Rover line up around Silver Lake.

http://www.wxyz.com/news/region/washtenaw-county/natural-gas-pipeline-could-put-metro-detroit-ymca-summer-camp-in-jeopardy (http://www.wxyz.com/news/region/washtenaw-county/natural-gas-pipeline-could-put-metro-detroit-ymca-summer-camp-in-jeopardy)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on July 05, 2017, 08:16:46 PM
I've found out there is a group of people that like to use social media just to *****.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on July 05, 2017, 08:30:00 PM
I was out in the hills on the 4th.

I must say that the Rover cuts a big swath where it goes across US12 and M50.

Impressive to see all that pipe sitting out there all lined up.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 06, 2017, 09:52:47 AM
I thought for sure I was going to see 'The Rover' claim it's first victim on Telegraph yesterday.  We were heading north in front of Lowe's and there was a single truck heading south with the escort car behind it.  The light turned yellow and the truck was going too fast and was too close to the light to stop so he (I'm assuming it was a he) just blew on through the light...

A typical semi trailer is 62' or so...   these pipes are about 80'...  The light got to red while the pipe was about halfway through and then it has the brief delay before the cross light turned green...   followed by the escort car blowing a completely red (by several seconds) light.  Fortunately the driver leading the way out of Lowe's was not texting or sexting or even drinking their coffee but instead was actually paying attention and driving like they were supposed to be.  Kudos to that driver for avoiding what could have been a very bad scenario.  Telegraph had already claimed one lift yesterday :( :( :(

A question for SCF... 

In a situation where there is an extra wide load with escorts front and back how far is the front escort supposed to be 'out in front' on a limited access highway?  In this case it was 275 just north of 94.  We were heading north and passed the wide load.  He (again, I'm assuming) was only driving about 50 but the load was literally the full width of the lane on 275.  It was one of those articulating trailers with a whole bunch of extra tires.  I was surprised at how far up and down the load was moving in a nice gentle 'bounce'.  It wasn't particularly high...  maybe 8 or 10' at the most.

Anyway, we get past safely...   everyone in the middle lane had slowed down although just as we were next to the trailer a white Dodge pickup blew by at the 'normal' 75 mph or so.  Then about a half mile down the road we see the 'front' escort car...   not sure if he didn't get the message the load had slowed down or if that is the distance they're supposed to be out front.  I've never seen one that far out front on regular streets and roads.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 13, 2017, 09:51:00 AM
We saw four more loads of gas line pipe yesterday afternoon all heading south on Telegraph between M-50 and Stewart.  Three of them right in a row and then the 4th one was about a block behind. 

I wonder how many loads of pipe it takes to build a mile of pipeline? 

I wonder at what point will they just keep going north on 275 and then west to the pipeline?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 13, 2017, 10:04:16 AM
This is more about what we may be seeing in the future from Monroe County...

City of Toledo's 'proposed' marijuana grow site will be about one block from the state line along Suder.

http://www.13abc.com/content/news/A-first-look-at-Toledos-first-proposed-medical-marijuana-grow-facility-434179283.html (http://www.13abc.com/content/news/A-first-look-at-Toledos-first-proposed-medical-marijuana-grow-facility-434179283.html)

Since ther landfill is just to the northwest of there maybe they're hoping they'll get fewer complaints about the smell of the landfill ;D ;D ;D

http://www.13abc.com/content/news/A-first-look-at-Toledos-first-proposed-medical-marijuana-grow-facility-434179283.html (http://www.13abc.com/content/news/A-first-look-at-Toledos-first-proposed-medical-marijuana-grow-facility-434179283.html)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Newport-Bill on July 13, 2017, 11:17:54 AM
Since ther landfill is just to the northwest of there maybe they're hoping they'll get fewer complaints about the smell of the landfill ;D ;D ;D

At least it will be a short drive for fertilizer. ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 13, 2017, 11:47:11 AM
I thought for sure I was going to see 'The Rover' claim it's first victim on Telegraph yesterday.  We were heading north in front of Lowe's and there was a single truck heading south with the escort car behind it.  The light turned yellow and the truck was going too fast and was too close to the light to stop so he (I'm assuming it was a he) just blew on through the light...

A typical semi trailer is 62' or so...   these pipes are about 80'...  The light got to red while the pipe was about halfway through and then it has the brief delay before the cross light turned green...   followed by the escort car blowing a completely red (by several seconds) light.  Fortunately the driver leading the way out of Lowe's was not texting or sexting or even drinking their coffee but instead was actually paying attention and driving like they were supposed to be.  Kudos to that driver for avoiding what could have been a very bad scenario.  Telegraph had already claimed one lift yesterday :( :( :(

A question for SCF... 

In a situation where there is an extra wide load with escorts front and back how far is the front escort supposed to be 'out in front' on a limited access highway?  In this case it was 275 just north of 94.  We were heading north and passed the wide load.  He (again, I'm assuming) was only driving about 50 but the load was literally the full width of the lane on 275.  It was one of those articulating trailers with a whole bunch of extra tires.  I was surprised at how far up and down the load was moving in a nice gentle 'bounce'.  It wasn't particularly high...  maybe 8 or 10' at the most.

Anyway, we get past safely...   everyone in the middle lane had slowed down although just as we were next to the trailer a white Dodge pickup blew by at the 'normal' 75 mph or so.  Then about a half mile down the road we see the 'front' escort car...   not sure if he didn't get the message the load had slowed down or if that is the distance they're supposed to be out front.  I've never seen one that far out front on regular streets and roads.

Law states the escort vehicles have to be within 'visual recognition' of the permit load at all times.  Usually the driver is communicating with the escort drives via 2 way radio (not a CB either).  usually FM transceiver.  A lot of times, the front escort will pull ahead to check for anything unusual like, crowded on ramps, or emergency vehicles on the side of the road that may interfere with the transport.  Ypu will also see them pull way ahead when checking overpass height (what the pole sticking up on the lead car is for.  It's set at the maximum object height that is being transported and the end of the pole has a sensor on it that signals the escort driver if the clearance is close.

Most times on surface streets, the escorts will be right with the load because of the proximity of other drivers and the frequency of stop lights and crossing intersections.

In the case of the pipe, the rear escort should have waited for the light to cycle and the truck driver should have anticipated the light better.  Typically you observe the 'walk, don't walk signs.  Average time to cycle on a traffic light) is 7-10 seconds from the time the sign changes from walk to don't walk.  Thats how it's done btw.

heavy loads all 'bounce' up and down.  If the trailer didn't flex with the weight, it would snap in two.  All trailers are designed that way.

Two of the tractors that they are using to haul the pipe are sitting in Freightliner of Toldeo's back lot, I presume with engine or drivetrain issues.  None of the drivers are locals.  They all came in with the trucks and trailers from Texas, i think.  Trucks (tractors) all have Texas IRP plates.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 13, 2017, 11:50:11 AM
At least it will be a short drive for fertilizer. ;D

That landfill is reaching epic height proportions.  Lot of garbage under there, probably some unaccounted for bodies as well...
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 13, 2017, 01:24:58 PM
Law states the escort vehicles have to be within 'visual recognition' of the permit load at all times.  Usually the driver is communicating with the escort drives via 2 way radio (not a CB either).  usually FM transceiver.  A lot of times, the front escort will pull ahead to check for anything unusual like, crowded on ramps, or emergency vehicles on the side of the road that may interfere with the transport.  Ypu will also see them pull way ahead when checking overpass height (what the pole sticking up on the lead car is for.  It's set at the maximum object height that is being transported and the end of the pole has a sensor on it that signals the escort driver if the clearance is close.

Most times on surface streets, the escorts will be right with the load because of the proximity of other drivers and the frequency of stop lights and crossing intersections.

In the case of the pipe, the rear escort should have waited for the light to cycle and the truck driver should have anticipated the light better.  Typically you observe the 'walk, don't walk signs.  Average time to cycle on a traffic light) is 7-10 seconds from the time the sign changes from walk to don't walk.  Thats how it's done btw.

heavy loads all 'bounce' up and down.  If the trailer didn't flex with the weight, it would snap in two.  All trailers are designed that way.

Two of the tractors that they are using to haul the pipe are sitting in Freightliner of Toldeo's back lot, I presume with engine or drivetrain issues.  None of the drivers are locals.  They all came in with the trucks and trailers from Texas, i think.  Trucks (tractors) all have Texas IRP plates.

The motion on this load was way more than 'flex' in the trailer...  I'll bet it was moving up and down a good 14-16" and in a rhythm not even related to anything on the road.  The load was completely tarped so no way to tell for sure what it was.

Slowly undulating is what I would say it was doing. 

Strange to say the least :-\ :-\ :-\

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 13, 2017, 06:25:13 PM
The gyrations or undulations are magnified by the air suspension I'm sure the trailer had.  Modern trailers are all air ride and have shocks but if the shocks aren't replaced the trailer undulates, especially with a heavy load.

It obviously made it to where it was going or we would have read about it in the paper.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 13, 2017, 06:26:29 PM
I presume it wasn't the Ajax Upsetter.....lol
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 13, 2017, 10:17:03 PM
The gyrations or undulations are magnified by the air suspension I'm sure the trailer had.  Modern trailers are all air ride and have shocks but if the shocks aren't replaced the trailer undulates, especially with a heavy load.

It obviously made it to where it was going or we would have read about it in the paper.

It was a fairly new trailer...  one of those with lots and lots of extra tires and extendable length and width so I would assume it had air suspension. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 19, 2017, 09:32:21 AM
They're working on repaving Lewis Ave. from Ida Center north to Ida.  Now when that guy wants to 'fly' with his Focus he'll have smooth road from US-23 all the way back to Toledo.  I wonder if he got his car back yet.  Used to be when a car got impounded in Toledo it was very, very expensive to get it back.

We took Strasburg up to M-50 and into town and then north on Telegraph to Stewart yesterday and only met up with one truck hauling pipe.  That was about 3:15 and we usually see them hauling later than that.  Maybe that was the last section or maybe they're just slowing down?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on July 19, 2017, 11:27:53 AM
Interesting to see where the pipes are coming from...  let alone how a Texas firm got the contract as I did note they all have texas plates...   
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on July 19, 2017, 06:29:09 PM
I assume that after the pipe passes thru an area the delivery routes change to accommodate where they need pipe. I saw them this morning on 275 and 94.
I also assume the trucks are from Texas because it is a specialty trailer and that is where they are from. If there was a cheeper closer alternative I would think you would be seeing them right now.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 19, 2017, 08:04:21 PM
I assume that after the pipe passes thru an area the delivery routes change to accommodate where they need pipe. I saw them this morning on 275 and 94.
I also assume the trucks are from Texas because it is a specialty trailer and that is where they are from. If there was a cheeper closer alternative I would think you would be seeing them right now.

So maybe what we saw was the last piece heading west? 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on July 19, 2017, 08:51:17 PM
So are they being manufactured in the area - or coming through the St. Lawrence seaway?   Find it hard to vision a cheap route that ends up at 94/275
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on July 19, 2017, 09:06:47 PM
So are they being manufactured in the area - or coming through the St. Lawrence seaway?   Find it hard to vision a cheap route that ends up at 94/275

They got delivered to the Port of Monroe - and they got stored there.

Rover Pipeline.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on July 20, 2017, 07:49:46 AM
They got delivered to the Port of Monroe - and they got stored there.

Rover Pipeline.
Even more odd then - as I see them coming down Telegraph - so did they have to take them north to get some lining?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on July 20, 2017, 10:31:31 AM
I think it is just a haul route that winds them thru town because they are so long. They won't fit everywhere and have to have a pretty generous turning radius.
Greater minds than ours worked it out!!!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on July 20, 2017, 07:44:26 PM
They have to go the route the State tells them to.

I'm sure the first route is onto I75 then onto whatever route will get them to the approved truck route.

I'm sure Flip can tell us all the main approved routes.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 20, 2017, 08:58:01 PM
Even more odd then - as I see them coming down Telegraph - so did they have to take them north to get some lining?

I drove down Front street one day and could see the trucks heading out from the drive at the west end of Gerdau.  The escort vehicles were lined up along Front street down by the Port of Monroe office and they would just pull in behind a truck as it entered Front street.  Didn't seem to be any 'order' to who was escorting what particular truck.  Then down under the freeway overpass where they have the little cut over street there were another dozen or so escort vehicles that were staging there.  Porta potties set up and water coolers and stuff like that.  Probably a good 2 hour round trip over to Lenawee and back.  I did not see where the truck drivers were taking a break so I'm guessing back where the trucks are being loaded. 

Then the truck followed by an escort gets on northbound 75 at Front street and heads north to 275 and exits north and then to Telegraph and then clear back down Telegraph to Front/M-50 and then west to their destination in Lenawee.

When we were between M-50 and Stewart this morning just after 8 am we did see one load of pipe but no where near the 4-5 we were seeing at a time a couple of weeks ago.  When we watched them down in Florida they were welding the pipe sections together at several different points along the route.  Down there the route is parallel to a main road so easy to see everything going on as you go along mile by mile.  I'm sure someone making 'big bucks' is making the call on where pipes go on any given day.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 21, 2017, 09:06:03 PM
We went from M-50 up to Hurd Road this afternoon and again saw one load of pipe.  Definitely a slowdown from the last couple of weeks.

Still nothing going on at the new Jimmy Johns on Jones...   definitely a mystery to me on that one!

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 22, 2017, 05:04:42 PM
I read Energy Transfer Partners has their tit in a wringer in Ohio for illegal discharge of drilling fluid (directional boring), destroying wetlands, illegal timber removal and destroying existing structures without permission.  The Ohio EPA has levied a one million dollar fine and is pursuring litigation.

Nice to know they are coming here with the same attitude.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on July 22, 2017, 05:46:06 PM
I read Energy Transfer Partners has their tit in a wringer in Ohio for illegal discharge of drilling fluid (directional boring), destroying wetlands, illegal timber removal and destroying existing structures without permission.  The Ohio EPA has levied a one million dollar fine and is pursuring litigation.

Nice to know they are coming here with the same attitude.

I've always heard that it is easier to get forgiveness than seek permission.

Probably doubly true in the regulatory environment we have today.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on July 22, 2017, 06:43:39 PM
I've always heard that it is easier to get forgiveness than seek permission.

Probably doubly true in the regulatory environment we have today.

I would hope they have currently certified welders joining the pipe sections and not mexicans.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on July 22, 2017, 10:46:11 PM
I would hope they have currently certified welders joining the pipe sections and not mexicans.

I don't care if they are Mexicans - if they are certified, and they are doing the proper inspections.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on July 23, 2017, 07:53:16 AM
The best welders I've seen in my company are Mexicans.  Not sure about certifications, but the Mexicans are about the best at being industrious in repairs that I have ever seen....it was by necessity to keep things going.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on July 23, 2017, 10:30:24 AM
I don't think anyone can say the Mexicans are unskilled or lazy..
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on July 23, 2017, 12:32:32 PM
I don't think anyone can say the Mexicans are unskilled or lazy..

I wont.

It simply isn't true from what I have seen.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 25, 2017, 07:39:46 PM
We had to go to Ann Arbor this morning so we took Albain Road across to Lewis to see if we could see any damage from the storm Sunday evening. 

We saw a couple of fields of corn that were leaning over at about a 45 degree angle.  I don't ever remember seeing that before.  Fortunately all the wheat was finished before the storm and the worst I saw was some very wet straw still waiting to be bailed.  Straw dries out again ok but it turns strange colors after it's been wet.

We had to wait a few minutes on Lewis just south of Ida.  A road commission crew was there cleaning up what was left of a big old tree that had been down along the road...  may have been in the road at one point.  We saw several other areas where they had already cleaned up trees and still plenty of big branches and whole trees down in yards.  That storm certainly had some punch to it.

I guess we were lucky that all we had was small limbs to pick up...   lots of them but all small.  Won't even have to start the chain saw!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 02, 2017, 09:08:47 AM
A drilling rig set up in a field at the northeast corner of Todd and Geiger road.  Drove by Sunday night and the place was lit up like the fairgrounds.  It's actually closer to Leghorn road which is a 'half section' line road that runs from Lewis east to Geiger and then dead ends. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on August 02, 2017, 09:38:03 AM
A drilling rig set up in a field at the northeast corner of Todd and Geiger road.  Drove by Sunday night and the place was lit up like the fairgrounds.  It's actually closer to Leghorn road which is a 'half section' line road that runs from Lewis east to Geiger and then dead ends. 

You mean they might start drilling in the area again...   I'm waiting to upgrade my golf trips!     and a "pipeline" is just 1/4 mile away if they find it they can actually move it
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on August 02, 2017, 09:40:39 AM
 I saw an article in the MN  about the Monroe Building department sign...   warning "customers" they will have the police called on them if they aren't nice! 

Then there's the issue of the Book Nook  and the Building Department making them jump through hoops for quite some time now...     She has a sign in her window not sure how often it's updated but its been over 200 days now. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 06, 2017, 12:40:55 PM
I haven't seen any more pipe sections being hauled through Monroe since the last time I posted about seeing one (maybe a week ago).  Drove by their storage yard on 75 last night and didn't see any sections although did see home huge sections that must be some of the wind turbine bases waiting to ship out.

We were up and down 75 clear to Downriver one day last week and didn't see any sections going north to the 275 exit either so I'm thinking they must have most of the pipe delivered to the route of the line by now.

They did have a minor incident in Lenawee last week with the shoulder of the road collapsing while they were boring underneath the road.  The pipe line is supposed to hire contractors and have it repaired by Tuesday according to the Lenawee newspaper!

http://www.lenconnect.com/news/20170804/pipeline-work-causes-m-50-collapse (http://www.lenconnect.com/news/20170804/pipeline-work-causes-m-50-collapse)

http://www.lenconnect.com/news/20170805/pipeline-firm-to-fund-m-50-repairs-in-franklin-twp (http://www.lenconnect.com/news/20170805/pipeline-firm-to-fund-m-50-repairs-in-franklin-twp)

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 06, 2017, 01:12:02 PM
A drilling rig set up in a field at the northeast corner of Todd and Geiger road.  Drove by Sunday night and the place was lit up like the fairgrounds.  It's actually closer to Leghorn road which is a 'half section' line road that runs from Lewis east to Geiger and then dead ends.

Every hole costs a million bucks to drill, dry or not...
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on August 07, 2017, 10:53:13 AM
You'd think they would have learned their lesson around this area by now. Theres no oil here !!
But go ahead and keep leasing my land.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 07, 2017, 01:13:07 PM
You'd think they would have learned their lesson around this area by now. Theres no oil here !!
But go ahead and keep leasing my land.

you are starting to sound like Tim Walberg....lol
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on August 07, 2017, 02:47:07 PM
Remember - they use the "bad" holes for brine injection......
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 07, 2017, 03:00:02 PM
Remember - they use the "bad" holes for brine injection......

Only if permitted and around here because of the Karst, it's not.  Nearest brine injection well is in Jackson County (maybe thats what is wrong with Baby Hitler...  brine poisoned. ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 07, 2017, 05:17:18 PM
Every hole costs a million bucks to drill, dry or not...

This platform looks like it's from a different company than the one that was working across from you.  It's painted all white or cream colored and has the initial cdc in an oval on the cab. 

It had been raining just before we were there and there was a rainbow (actually a double rainbow) in the sky so I moved the truck around until I got the rainbow lined up right behind the derrick. 

Maybe there will be a 'pot of gold' at the end of that rainbow someday ;) ;) ;)

Out closer to the road they have their porta john sitting.  I got a picture of the rainbow ending on top of the porta john too...

I know there's pot of gold there already ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 13, 2017, 08:40:25 AM
We drove by the drilling site on Geiger Rd. Friday night and there were no lights on...   the drilling site sits too far from the road to tell if the drilling platform was still there or not :-\ :-\ :-\  We'll have to drive by in the daylight to look closer.  There is a short blurb in the paper about it and another site in Summerfield though.

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20170811/drilling-continues-in-2-townships (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20170811/drilling-continues-in-2-townships)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on August 13, 2017, 11:40:36 AM
Only if permitted and around here because of the Karst, it's not.  Nearest brine injection well is in Jackson County (maybe thats what is wrong with Baby Hitler...  brine poisoned. ;D

I know plenty of people in that business who believe it is easier to ask forgiveness, and they never have to.

Just saying.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 13, 2017, 09:24:54 PM
We drove by the drilling site on Geiger Rd. Friday night and there were no lights on...   the drilling site sits too far from the road to tell if the drilling platform was still there or not :-\ :-\ :-\  We'll have to drive by in the daylight to look closer.  There is a short blurb in the paper about it and another site in Summerfield though.

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20170811/drilling-continues-in-2-townships[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20170811/drilling-continues-in-2-townships[/url])


Isn't that right near Dale Zorn's place?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 13, 2017, 09:35:03 PM
We drove by the drilling site on Geiger Rd. Friday night and there were no lights on...   the drilling site sits too far from the road to tell if the drilling platform was still there or not :-\ :-\ :-\  We'll have to drive by in the daylight to look closer.  There is a short blurb in the paper about it and another site in Summerfield though.

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20170811/drilling-continues-in-2-townships[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20170811/drilling-continues-in-2-townships[/url])


Article is not exactly correct.  The well that Trendwell operates on Ida Center near Alcott isn't 'drilling' anything.  It was drilled 3 years ago.  No new 'drilling' is taking place in Summerfield Township that I'm aware of.  The MN reporter is using the wrong terms.  In as much as it costs around a million bucks to punch a new hole, I don't see much chance of any new holes springing up in the near future and I don't understand the one off Geiger road.  No money in local oil now or in the near future.

Like the one across from us that is sitting.  Someone sink a million bucks in a hole that produced a couple tanker trucks of oil and petered out.  What we have left is an abandoned pump jack, an earthen berm and some junk laying out there rusting.  Pretty cool eh?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 14, 2017, 09:59:37 PM
Isn't that right near Dale Zorn's place?

I think Dale lives on Ida West road in Raisinville Township (but that might be his brother or he might not live there now) and the Geiger road well is about a mile and a quarter north of Rauch Road on the east side of the road so that would be probably 6 miles from where I think DZ lives.

When we drove by there this morning the drilling platform was long gone and there were two trucks all loaded up with some of the support gear and it was ready to go.  When we got almost to Ida on Lewis we fell in behind another piece heading north...   no idea where.  We got on 23 and went to north of Ann Arbor (Geddes Road) and we never did see any more of the equipment. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 16, 2017, 09:29:52 AM
I think Dale lives on Ida West road in Raisinville Township (but that might be his brother or he might not live there now) and the Geiger road well is about a mile and a quarter north of Rauch Road on the east side of the road so that would be probably 6 miles from where I think DZ lives.

When we drove by there this morning the drilling platform was long gone and there were two trucks all loaded up with some of the support gear and it was ready to go.  When we got almost to Ida on Lewis we fell in behind another piece heading north...   no idea where.  We got on 23 and went to north of Ann Arbor (Geddes Road) and we never did see any more of the equipment.

I checked the tax records and Dale still owns the house on Ida "East" (same road, different direction) although I have no idea if he actually lives there.  It is not uncommon for politicians to show their residence as one home and actually reside in another area miles away from 'home'!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 16, 2017, 11:42:57 AM
Is the a pump jack at the well head or not.  Sounds like another dry hole to me because they were in and out real quick.  Lots of dry holes around here...lol
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on August 18, 2017, 01:10:49 PM
I see something going in near Meijer gas Station out near Telegraph... 

Just what we need is more congestion in that area! 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Newport-Bill on August 18, 2017, 03:04:20 PM
Food place.  Saw something on it in the paper weeks ago. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on August 19, 2017, 11:27:08 PM
Drive through Chinese Food, Panda Express.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on August 20, 2017, 06:28:33 AM
It's been years since I've been to a Panda Ex but as for a drive thru the Panda has it all over the drive thru as comparing Taco Bell as a drive thru for Mexican food.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 26, 2017, 10:20:53 AM
I figured for sure that the new Jimmy Johns would be open when we got back...   very honestly it doesn't look like they've even worked on it. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on August 26, 2017, 11:22:04 AM
I thought Jimmy Johns got to be old pretty fast.  I'll make my own bologna sand if i need a sub.
Same with Subway
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on August 27, 2017, 03:50:43 PM
I figured for sure that the new Jimmy Johns would be open when we got back...   very honestly it doesn't look like they've even worked on it. 

Probably waiting for:  (pick your favorite)
deal on end of season asphalt,
the manufacturers marketplace resurgence effect,
the opening of the quarry access on Monroe Street,
the building inspector to find something wrong,

I'm sure you can add a few to this list! 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 28, 2017, 10:30:01 AM
Probably waiting for:  (pick your favorite)
deal on end of season asphalt,
the manufacturers marketplace resurgence effect,
the opening of the quarry access on Monroe Street,
the building inspector to find something wrong,

I'm sure you can add a few to this list!

Maybe they're hoping the CARITE sales lot is going to open up again ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 28, 2017, 05:32:47 PM
Looks like the Winchester Street bridge is about finished 'again'...

I didn't see them doing anything on the deck but there were still a few people working on the walkways and side railings. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 28, 2017, 10:01:45 PM
I thought Jimmy Johns got to be old pretty fast.  I'll make my own bologna sand if i need a sub.
Same with Subway

What is Jimmy Johns?  Sounds like a mens room
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on August 29, 2017, 09:45:47 AM
That's where you'll have to go after eating one of their subs
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 29, 2017, 05:04:39 PM
Good to know, I guess.  Won't be patronizing it in that case.  I'm pretty much of a Subway fan anyway.  Strange name, kind of like Quizino's.  I see they pretty much fizzled out.  I tried them once.  Very high priced sandwich on a long bun.  Was good but too much money for value received.

CL and I need to get to I-Hop one of these days before it folds too.  I really dislike driving through Monroe.  It's like Adrian, too many one way narrow streets and too many traffic lights.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 29, 2017, 05:06:28 PM
I'm really surprised an outfit (franchise) like Starbucks can stay in business.  I guess people don't know how to brew a cup of coffee anymore.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on August 29, 2017, 05:16:13 PM
Jimmy Johns maybe ok. I've had a couple of times and didn't really care for them. Probably better than the Firehouse sub place though.
The Andersons made a great sub.
When I go to Michigan games I make my own with the long loaves of French/Italian bread Foodtown makes..
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on August 29, 2017, 07:53:25 PM
Can't beat a Brat Burger at a Michigan Game......

The Scientists at Johnsonville are mad geniuses.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 29, 2017, 10:51:49 PM
Jimmy Johns maybe ok. I've had a couple of times and didn't really care for them. Probably better than the Firehouse sub place though.
The Andersons made a great sub.
When I go to Michigan games I make my own with the long loaves of French/Italian bread Foodtown makes..

I saw a few days ago that two men have purchased the former Anderson's store on Monroe street in Toledo.  They're going to put in multiple vendors to 'attempt' to create the atmosphere of the Anderson's.  Maybe a sub shop will be one of the vendors.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 30, 2017, 10:04:36 AM
Is the a pump jack at the well head or not.  Sounds like another dry hole to me because they were in and out real quick.  Lots of dry holes around here...lol

I couldn't see if there was a pump jack (oldest daughter called them 'uppy downies' when she was little) there or not.  They had pushed back all the top soil and piled it between the drilling site and the road and then they parked the dozer square on top of the pile of black dirt so hard to see anything yet.  We've been gone so I haven't been back down there to see what is going on since they moved the drilling rig out.

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on August 30, 2017, 10:39:46 AM
"I saw a few days ago that two men have purchased the former Anderson's store on Monroe street in Toledo.  They're going to put in multiple vendors to 'attempt' to create the atmosphere of the Anderson's.  Maybe a sub shop will be one of the vendors.'

When i was in Boston last month i saw a place like that.  Called the Boston Public market.   It was a really hugh building with many vendors selling about everything inside.. Each vendor had it's own littel area. But mostly food and wine products.  It was near Haymarket Sq right off the subway stop near downtown.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on August 30, 2017, 12:36:00 PM
Can't beat a Brat Burger at a Michigan Game......

The Scientists at Johnsonville are mad geniuses.

Most of the small town meat markets in Southern Illinois sell their store made brats in perfect sized patties.  Some of them are outstanding......I generally have a brat burger or two a week.  Good stuff Maynard!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on August 30, 2017, 01:37:22 PM
Saw trucks in the stone parking lot at Jimmy Johns...   

Also see they are moving "north" as they redo the rails and rail crossings on the track closest to Telegraph
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on August 30, 2017, 04:40:23 PM
Dunbar is finally open. For at least 2 days 7th and Dunbar were both closed at the tracks.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on August 30, 2017, 05:31:03 PM
I don't buy pork in the grocery stores anymore.  All or most is processing in China now.  Especially Smithfield and whoever else they package for.
I've become aware of Clemens group out of PA.  They are the ones building a huge facility in Coldwater Mi to process porik.  If find their brand such as Country view, Hatfield,Nicks or Butcher Wagon I'd buy it.
For now i get it all at the little slauter house/meat market in Elmore Ohio.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 30, 2017, 11:19:22 PM
Gook Pork, how enlightening.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 31, 2017, 07:31:58 AM
Most of the small town meat markets in Southern Illinois sell their store made brats in perfect sized patties.  Some of them are outstanding......I generally have a brat burger or two a week.  Good stuff Maynard!

We had breakfast a few mornings at Rose's Kountry Kitchen in 'downtown' Cave In Rock.  One morning we had 'hot' pork sausage patties...  obviously something locally 'grown' and very, very good. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on August 31, 2017, 10:15:18 AM
This rural region has many small little fresh cut meat markets.  There is one in a small town called Lively Grove, IL (population less than a hundred) that people come from miles around.

Occasionally, I will go there on a Sunday morning to get some fresh cuts.  Many farmers standing around and in line talking agriculture, hunting, fishing......such a breath of fresh air.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on August 31, 2017, 10:33:12 AM
Yep that's the kind of place i like to go.  To many little meat markets buy halfs and qtrs off the market, not knowing where they came from and process to cut it up.  Not what i want.  We live in a world now that you can't trust anyone
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on August 31, 2017, 12:09:41 PM
Guess when CL and I dine at Chinese Sizzling, we get Gook Pork.... ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on August 31, 2017, 03:03:58 PM
I'm betting you do   
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on September 06, 2017, 09:48:13 AM
This rural region has many small little fresh cut meat markets.  There is one in a small town called Lively Grove, IL (population less than a hundred) that people come from miles around.

Occasionally, I will go there on a Sunday morning to get some fresh cuts.  Many farmers standing around and in line talking agriculture, hunting, fishing......such a breath of fresh air.
I know Danny's and HiLite still have butchers...   what other stores do?

I always prefer fresh cut and packaged stuff over pre-packaged that comes from who knows where
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: The Fuzz on September 06, 2017, 10:29:09 AM
I know the 2 you mentioned does........but, and I could be wrong, I think Krogers has a butcher at the new meat counter they added.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on September 06, 2017, 11:00:19 AM
The major factor behind Shuanghui’s acquisition of Smithfield was to secure a supply of pork to feed rising demand in China (a country that is now the world’s biggest pork market), not to export pork products from China to the U.S.:

The Chinese company is looking to reduce supply uncertainties that come along with the scarcity of livestock feed in order to be able meet the rising demand [for pork] at home. It also aims to reduce quality concerns at the same time by selling “American” meat to consumers in China.

Pork is the most popular meat in China as it forms more than three-fourths of total meat consumption in the country. The nation produced more than half the world’s total pork in 2012, while consumers spent around $183 billion consuming it. Moreover, demand for the meat is only rising as disposable incomes of more than 1.3 billion people in China are rising.

A Chinese acquisition of a U.S. processor doesn’t mean that Americans will be eating crock Chinese cuts. The trade in pork is all the other way, and so is the technology transfer that Chinese firms crave as they seek to consolidate a fragmented, poorly run industry. Shuanghui isn’t looking to offload Chinese pork in Los Angeles. What it wants is to become the leading player in China.
Moreover, people engaged in that industry have told us that the notion of a Chinese-owned company raising hogs in the U.S., shipping them live all the way to China for slaughtering and processing, then exporting the meat back into the U.S. would be prohibitively cost-inefficient — especially since the slaughtering and processing infrastructures already exist in the U.S., and the Chinese domestic market for pork is far, far larger than the U.S. market for pork.

http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/smithfield.asp (http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/smithfield.asp)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Newport-Bill on September 06, 2017, 11:01:09 AM
Lee's Market in Newport has a butcher.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Tiny on September 06, 2017, 11:10:20 AM
 Chinese companies, at the urging of their government, have launched a global buying spree, a new phase in their unprecedented economic experiment. And they’re targeting a resource that climate scientists, economists, the U.S. government, even Wall Street, all forecast will become dangerously scarce in the coming decades: food.

Food is poised to become the oil of the 21st century, with scarcity and demand creating a situation ripe for wars, riots and uprisings.

“We have a situation in the world food economy today where the growth in demand is exceeding the supply,” said Lester Brown, a food economist and founder of the Earth Policy Institute.

Food – namely crops such as soy, wheat and corn from which most other food products, such as pasta, bread and livestock meat, are derived – is in dwindling abundance as the world’s population grows ever larger, adding 220,000 mouths to feed every day. At the same time, global warming is destroying up to 2 percent of the world’s crop production every decade, according to the United Nations.

https://www.revealnews.org/article/how-china-purchased-a-prime-cut-of-americas-pork-industry/ (https://www.revealnews.org/article/how-china-purchased-a-prime-cut-of-americas-pork-industry/)
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on September 06, 2017, 11:19:51 AM
I saw an artilce in the local Bedford rag last week about Howards Meats on Secor.  She indicated she has been buying all her meat from a guy in ypsi for the last 31 years.  She and another person cut it up..
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on September 06, 2017, 10:32:56 PM
Chinese companies, at the urging of their government, have launched a global buying spree, a new phase in their unprecedented economic experiment. And they’re targeting a resource that climate scientists, economists, the U.S. government, even Wall Street, all forecast will become dangerously scarce in the coming decades: food.

Food is poised to become the oil of the 21st century, with scarcity and demand creating a situation ripe for wars, riots and uprisings.

“We have a situation in the world food economy today where the growth in demand is exceeding the supply,” said Lester Brown, a food economist and founder of the Earth Policy Institute.

Food – namely crops such as soy, wheat and corn from which most other food products, such as pasta, bread and livestock meat, are derived – is in dwindling abundance as the world’s population grows ever larger, adding 220,000 mouths to feed every day. At the same time, global warming is destroying up to 2 percent of the world’s crop production every decade, according to the United Nations.

https://www.revealnews.org/article/how-china-purchased-a-prime-cut-of-americas-pork-industry/ (https://www.revealnews.org/article/how-china-purchased-a-prime-cut-of-americas-pork-industry/)

Wouldn't know it by the prices of those commodities...   
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on September 07, 2017, 09:51:25 AM
I believe something destroys a percentage of the worlds crop production every year but is it the result of global warming?  We've always had bad weather situations.
And i haven't looked for awhile at the number but the U.S. has millions of acres the governement is paying farmers not to plant.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on September 07, 2017, 01:58:52 PM
Hauling meat for years both locally and not locally, my comment is...  It's not where it's cut at, it's where it comes from before it's cut that counts.  If you like chicken, don't ever visit a Tyson processing plant and if you like beef, same goes for the huge MBPXL processing plant in Texas.  Been to both, many times.

The final cuts to sell and the sides and quarters are 2 different things, entirely.

From experience, the best commercially prepared chicken you can get is KFC.  They have the best QC, much stricter than the USDA.  Been there and dealt with KFC too.  When you back up to the dock and (they) cut the door seal, first thing that gets checked (By KFC) is the temperature recorder inside the load.  It has to have maintained a certain temperature or the load is rejected.  Then the USDA inspector checks a box or 2 for temp with an IR thermometer.  if it's ok, it's good with them and they leave but the KFC inspector stays and randomly checks boxes for temperature as well as moisture content and portion weight and you can offload an entire load and if the last box out of the reefer don't pass muster, the whole load is rejected.

Of course you don't take it back, KFC sell the entire load to another chicken cooker like Churches for a reduced price.

Beef is a different story.  Swinging meat (sides and quarters) on hooks hanging from the trailer rails (called rail meat), or boxed meat (half sides and quartered quarters) are only inspected at the packing plant by the USDA and the trailer sealed and when delivered, usually no inspector is present.  The meat is railed off into a meat locker or the boxed meat is offloaded onto skids and meat lockered.  No inspections other than at the packing plant.

The exception is Kosher (I used to haul Kosher beef for an outfit in New York).  Certified Kosher meat is time stamped and is inspected on both ends by a Rabbi (which is a joke).  I had mechanical issues in Youngstown on the way to NYC one time and had to get the load recertified Kosher.  This dude came out, dressed in black with his skull cap on, cut the old seal, affixed a new seal, said a few words in Hebrew and charged me 150 bucks and all was good again.

No difference between Kosher and not Kosher really (except price).

Not familiar with pork, never hauled any.  Jews don't eat pork anyway and most of the meat houses I hauled for were Jewish owned and operated.

I always went and had a good corned beef sandwich and a Kosher dill when delivering in NYC.  Cannot beat a NYC Jewish deli for corned beef.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on September 07, 2017, 03:36:56 PM
I believe you about KFC. I don't get it much anymore.. The wife loved it and I can say I never had a bad piece...of chicken!

Yeah just because a butcher shop cuts up Qtrs doesn't do it for me. It's still probably full of steroids etc.  I like the guy that buys hogs and steers from a their local farmers. 
And the same with chickens. My meat store has the whole chicken and or breasts from Roots in Fremont Ohio. Roots provides shredded chicken that a lot of grocers sell..
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on September 20, 2017, 11:20:57 AM
Lots of places needing asphalt - after the water/sewer line jobs around town.    Pushing the end of season timelines
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on September 20, 2017, 05:48:10 PM
Forgetting  about global warming?
Asphalt plants can stay open until Nov maybe
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on October 05, 2017, 02:24:43 PM
Is the a pump jack at the well head or not.  Sounds like another dry hole to me because they were in and out real quick.  Lots of dry holes around here...lol

Finally got a chance to drive by yesterday and take an 'up close' look...   no pump jack or even a pipe sticking up that I can see from the road.  You really only notice that there is room for about a half dozen vehicles to park on the fresh crushed limestone 'entrance' they had off Geiger road...   other than it just looks like a farm field again.  And the neighbor across the road has taken down their 'for sale' sign!!!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on October 14, 2017, 10:38:46 AM
Down in Bedford on the north side of Smith Road across the road from from Ella's party store.  Someone has been in there and brush hogged out maybe a 5-7 acre spot and yesterday there was some heavier equipment in there working on doing some underground work and looked like maybe digging some 'detention / retention' ponds.  No sign (at least that I saw...  more interested in watching the equipment work maybe) to indicate what it is.  The interesting feature is that they have not cleared all the way to Telegraph Road.  There is a very obvious little 'wedge' shaped parcel left on Telegraph right at the corner...   remember, Telegraph is still running on a bit of an angle there.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on October 21, 2017, 09:24:49 AM
I'm not even a big fan of Jimmy John's subs but it's getting to be a bit of an obsession for me to see that place open and go in and get at least one sandwich!  Saw another delivery style truck along with one of the big white service body trucks that has been there right along...   no one visible outside and no sign anything has changed outside.  At this rate they'll be having their spring 'Grand Opening' when we get back from Florida.

I wonder if JJ corporate keeps track of how long it takes to build their various locations?

I wonder if the operator here in Monroe is having to pay franchise fees all the time they're still building?

I wonder if our resident 'keyboard cowboy' will think these 'wonderings' are too much of someone else's business?

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on October 21, 2017, 10:52:18 AM
A couple of years ago it was mentioned a small manufacturing company now based in Monroe was going to build a facility at the Smith/Telegraph location.  They cleared the trees etc then but did nothing else for the last two years.  A few months ago they cleared the area again.  Now they look serious..
A friend surveyed the area for them and told me who it was but i forgot.  I go by there everyday on the way to the gym
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on October 21, 2017, 10:58:29 AM
A couple of years ago it was mentioned a small manufacturing company now based in Monroe was going to build a facility at the Smith/Telegraph location.  They cleared the trees etc then but did nothing else for the last two years.  A few months ago they cleared the area again.  Now they look serious..
A friend surveyed the area for them and told me who it was but i forgot.  I go by there everyday on the way to the gym

I don't really remember it being cleared before but it sure didn't look like there were any big trees so that is probably the same parcel.  Economy might not have been quite right for expansion then and is better now.

I know the 'old' mobile home park across the road sure looks a lot better (still some room for improvement) now that they have moved out some of the oldest and most dilapidated homes.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on October 21, 2017, 11:31:22 AM
Yeah they came in with big equip and cleared trees and i think burnt up everything.  Then over a couple of years more scrub stuff grew up..  When they ground down Smith this summer from Lewis to Telegraph they put all the ground asphalt on the property.  Looks like they are using that for a base for maybe a parking area or at least staging area near telegraph..
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 21, 2017, 08:13:01 PM
Try Dundee Products.  Heidtman owns the property and I think they need to capital.  Don't ask how I know.

Baffles me why someone would pay for physical exertion (health club).  I can provide all the physical exertion you need (farming)....  for free.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on October 25, 2017, 01:01:27 PM
I've seen several places on the east side of the city (on both sides of the river) where Michigan Gas is installing new distribution lines.  Looks like about 4" yellow plastic.  The prior line must be right under the curbs because it looks like they're destroying all the curbs as they dig. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on October 25, 2017, 07:43:29 PM
Had a chance to drive on several of the north-south gravel roads in both LaSalle and Ida townships today.  Saw several stretches of fresh gravel.  This is usually something I see in the spring after the gravel roads have broken up...   someone working on some 'preventive maintenance' maybe?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on November 01, 2017, 03:40:07 PM
The land at the corner of Smith and Telegraph that was cleared recently is now marked Mulch King.  They have prepped some land in front of the property and have some areas set up for brush, grass, leaves. I see a couple of pieces of euipment but no activity.  There are a couple of small piles of stuff.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on November 02, 2017, 09:12:01 AM
The land at the corner of Smith and Telegraph that was cleared recently is now marked Mulch King.  They have prepped some land in front of the property and have some areas set up for brush, grass, leaves. I see a couple of pieces of euipment but no activity.  There are a couple of small piles of stuff.

Haven't heard of Mulch King around here.  There's a tree trimming place on Samaria road just east of Lewis that has a mulching place and they have a name out there with 'mulch' in it. 

If it's like the typical place they charge you to dump your leaves and limbs and then charge you again when you buy their mulch.  Good business model if you can get the volume I guess.  I would assume they're trying to hit the Toledo business being that close to the state line.  There's a big sign on the main roads saying you can't transport firewood across the line but no mention of yard waste transportation.  I'd think the bugs could be in the waste even more than in the firewood.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on November 02, 2017, 10:09:31 AM
I do remember reading where Bedford Township was to partner with someone to collect yard waste behind the township hall but that fell thru for this year.  i wonder if this place on Smith is a result of that .  There is a phone number listed on the sign but i'm not good at remembering numbers as i pass by.
Maybe i'll pull over and take a pic of the sign.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on November 02, 2017, 12:04:16 PM
The big Mulch King signs are gone but there are piles of stuff with signs indicating what goes where.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on November 02, 2017, 01:47:11 PM
Samaria rd guy is Mulch Plus. The Smith rd property just got approval for a yard waste composting site. Hard to say what volume they will have. There is one by the ohio line that was ordered to move. That could be him. If they get municipal leaves and clippings it could turn into a big operation.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on November 02, 2017, 03:34:04 PM
There is one piece of equipment that looks like it could grind up about anything.  I didn't see anybody there and nothing to prevent someone from dropping stuff off.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on November 02, 2017, 08:52:25 PM
Samaria rd guy is Mulch Plus. The Smith rd property just got approval for a yard waste composting site. Hard to say what volume they will have. There is one by the ohio line that was ordered to move. That could be him. If they get municipal leaves and clippings it could turn into a big operation.

Mulch Plus...  yes, that's it! 

There is one in Erie at Summit and Sterns but I never see much going on around there.   

Jack's Lawn in Monroe at one time did mulching for the city out along the freeway and then one year it burned for a long time.  Hard to put out a fire like that!  Don't know if Jack's still does it or not now. 

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on November 03, 2017, 12:09:19 AM
Jack's got kicked out by the city of Monroe. They needed the property for development probably for Ventower or the steel company. I think he is composting off of Dunbar back behing the cement block place.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on November 03, 2017, 09:04:13 AM
Jack's got kicked out by the city of Monroe. They needed the property for development probably for Ventower or the steel company. I think he is composting off of Dunbar back behing the cement block place.

Off of Hull Road?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on November 03, 2017, 07:10:20 PM
my memory is questionable but I think its off of Dunbar. Theres a big piece of equipment that guards the driveway back off the road.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on November 03, 2017, 07:56:00 PM
my memory is questionable but I think its off of Dunbar. Theres a big piece of equipment that guards the driveway back off the road.

Yes, that's the same place.  I was by there today and saw the equipment setting back from the road.  The mulching operation is just to the west of that equipment and goes clear to the tracks that are along Hull Road. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on November 08, 2017, 05:29:24 PM
Mulch King.  Mystery solved.
It's addressed in the Bedford Post that arrived today.
It's a private business accepting leaves, grass and sticks for Bedford residents only.
The township stopped collecting in the bins behind Township Hall.
Mulch King will be open  7 days a week thru November and is FREE!!!!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on November 09, 2017, 08:24:12 AM
Mulch King.  Mystery solved.
It's addressed in the Bedford Post that arrived today.
It's a private business accepting leaves, grass and sticks for Bedford residents only.
The township stopped collecting in the bins behind Township Hall.
Mulch King will be open  7 days a week thru November and is FREE!!!!

Since it's limited to Bedford Township residents does that mean that Bedford Township is covering the 'dump fee' for each resident?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 09, 2017, 11:55:26 AM
When you live in an urban enviroment I can see that is a necessity.  I do like BRD does, pile it and roast it.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on November 10, 2017, 12:09:12 PM
I've never tried the compost thing...   to easy to just throw it in the field and let nature do it on its own... with certain biodegradable waste.    My leaves get chopped and burned for the most part -   
Still waiting for them to realize its fall!   
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on November 10, 2017, 05:03:15 PM
I've never tried the compost thing...   to easy to just throw it in the field and let nature do it on its own... with certain biodegradable waste.    My leaves get chopped and burned for the most part -   
Still waiting for them to realize its fall!

Fall?

Feels like winter.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on January 17, 2018, 05:51:41 PM
I see the building often called South Monroe Townsite  - has stripped off all the old facade of the various storefronts... 

Curious the plan
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 17, 2018, 06:09:23 PM
I see the building often called South Monroe Townsite  - has stripped off all the old facade of the various storefronts... 

Curious the plan

There are a few comments in either the business opening or business closings threads.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 17, 2018, 06:23:13 PM
I see the usual potholes hatching....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on January 17, 2018, 06:43:26 PM
should have checked for meteorites..
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 17, 2018, 06:54:06 PM
I see the usual potholes hatching....

Going to be around 50 by Sunday and then drop back into more typical winter weather.

It's the 'freeze-thaw' cycle that makes the potholes and makes them bigger so we may see a 'bumper' crop this year.

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on January 17, 2018, 06:58:13 PM
I see the usual potholes hatching....

Yep, the same ones keep popping up every year.  There are a bunch on Smith between Summerfield and Jackman that surface every year.  They are getting quite large and some day they might figure out they ought to cut out a small section of the road and put in a base and pave over that area.
Toledo is almost undriveable.  Stay in the left lane for sure.  Douglas Rd NB from laskey to Alexis is undriveable.  I got off and went up thru the neighborhood streets.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on January 17, 2018, 07:02:51 PM
Whatever happened to roads in Toledo being so smooth?

They must have hired someone from the MCRC to consult with them.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 17, 2018, 09:24:32 PM
I think Hicks-Hudson hired out the paving to her buddies..  Maybe the 12 letter mayor will do better but I doubt it.  He's just another Democrat.

Least in Moron County we all know the MCRC is just plain poor.

This is cold patch season, IOW, black oily sand in a hole and nothing more.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on January 18, 2018, 10:57:51 AM
Toledo just like all other big cities controlled by democrats.  Graft and corruption.
Reading now that the democrats wanted the Ex city council lady to be treasurer even though she can't manage money and nobody would bond her.
So they found a bondsman but it cost an extra $10,000 a year..
She must be a person the democrat machine knows they can dominate and get her to do everything they want and hire all their friends and relatives.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on January 18, 2018, 12:10:44 PM
Either that or she can suck a ping pong ball through 20 feet of garden hose... ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on January 18, 2018, 12:43:51 PM
Sunshine...

We have the front door open and the dog is laying there utilizing the solar gain and waiting for the mail truck.

Sometimes if the mail gal sees him in the door she'll leave a treat for him.

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 08, 2018, 09:05:43 AM
New traffic lights bagged and waiting at the corner of Lewis and Sterns. 

The current lights hang from 4 'drops' (I have no idea of the technical term).  The new system will hang from 12 and be spread out much, much wider. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on February 08, 2018, 09:35:30 AM
A few other intersections too but i don't recall where i saw them
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 09, 2018, 09:33:08 AM
A few other intersections too but i don't recall where i saw them

They look like they'll make it easier for those drivers that use a stoplight to catch up on their texting to keep an eye on the light.  The light they're watching should be directly in front of them.

I'm in the process of putting an airhorn on the pickup so I can give them a little 'heads up' when they just keep working on their phone well after the light has turned green!!!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on February 09, 2018, 09:54:28 AM
Air Horn.  that's awesome!!!
I'm one to give them a toot now when they don't move because i'm pretty sure they are on the phone.
I encounted one lady a couple of days ago coming through the intersection not looking at anything by her phone.  Couldn't be a worse place to do that..
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 20, 2018, 07:23:15 PM
There's a sign up across M-50 from TSC in Dundee for a new Elite Toyota Dealer. 

The Splash Universe in Dundee that was a Holiday Inn is now a Best Western.

They're finally working on rebuilding the condos that burned on S. Dixie in MonroeTown. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on February 20, 2018, 07:29:33 PM
Building yet another hotel / motel by Cabelas off Watersrtadt.  I never see any of the motels with many cars in their lots.  Don't know how they stay in business.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 20, 2018, 07:33:00 PM
We were riding around Cabela Drive on the north side of the store and there was still snow left up close to the tree line and the fog was just hanging off the top of it.

Later in Monroe across from Kroger the fog was rolling off the old quarry and just kind of hanging there before it dissipated.  The wind was blowing very warm air across the cold but not frozen surface of the quarry.  Kind of neat really.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on February 20, 2018, 07:37:15 PM
Building yet another hotel / motel by Cabelas off Watersrtadt.  I never see any of the motels with many cars in their lots.  Don't know how they stay in business.

They had what must be the elevator shaft built several weeks ago and then all the panels for the room were delivered and sitting out in the snow.  Now a few of the panels have been set in place but most of them are still just sitting although they're in the mud now.  When they get the rooms done and people are complaining about the mold smell they'll wish they would have worked a little faster.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on April 14, 2018, 09:18:35 AM
I can't say exactly how 'new' this is but it's the first time I'd seen it. 

We took 7th street yesterday to get from Telegraph over to Kroger.  Once we got the where 7th is a one way the wrong way we had to go over to 8th.  Within the first few blocks I saw a 'thin red line' flag flying.  They generally are used to recognize fallen firefighters.  There are also thin blue line flags for law enforcement.

Does anyone know who this flag might be honoring?

It's on the north side of the street.  I'll go that way again and try to get a more precise location.

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Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 14, 2018, 10:01:48 AM
They had what must be the elevator shaft built several weeks ago and then all the panels for the room were delivered and sitting out in the snow.  Now a few of the panels have been set in place but most of them are still just sitting although they're in the mud now.  When they get the rooms done and people are complaining about the mold smell they'll wish they would have worked a little faster.

Or covered them up.  Actually, the panels have sat there a couple months.  We go by there a couple times a week.  I still don't understand another hotel / motel.  The existing ones are mostly empty most of the time, unless it's to be condo's.  The new place behind TSC has over the top rent.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 14, 2018, 10:03:26 AM
I can't say exactly how 'new' this is but it's the first time I'd seen it. 

We took 7th street yesterday to get from Telegraph over to Kroger.  Once we got the where 7th is a one way the wrong way we had to go over to 8th.  Within the first few blocks I saw a 'thin red line' flag flying.  They generally are used to recognize fallen firefighters.  There are also thin blue line flags for law enforcement.

Does anyone know who this flag might be honoring?

It's on the north side of the street.  I'll go that way again and try to get a more precise location.

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Nice.  We rarely get to Monroe.  Roads going that way seem to be worse than roads going to Adrian.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on April 14, 2018, 10:07:42 AM
Or covered them up.  Actually, the panels have sat there a couple months.  We go by there a couple times a week.  I still don't understand another hotel / motel.  The existing ones are mostly empty most of the time, unless it's to be condo's.  The new place behind TSC has over the top rent.

It was back on February 20th I posted this.  I don't think we've been back since so apparently they're not moving real fast on the project.

All that waferboard will get nasty before they put the pieces together. 

I had asked at the doctor's office across the street and they had specifically said it was to be a hotel. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on April 14, 2018, 10:24:49 AM
The stuff has sat there through rain, snow and sleet for months.  We hit the Chinese place or the Coney frequently.  I still don't understand another hotel / motel.  Too many now.  Right now, it's a muddy mess.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on May 09, 2018, 10:57:40 AM
The stuff has sat there through rain, snow and sleet for months.  We hit the Chinese place or the Coney frequently.  I still don't understand another hotel / motel.  Too many now.  Right now, it's a muddy mess.

We were by there yesterday and they're busy working again although for the size of the project it didn't seem like a very big crew.  They've just about finished the 3rd floor and the panels for the 4th floor have been unloaded in the mud right along the street.  The waferboard covering the bottom two floors are distinctly darker than the third floor.  I think I'll be scratching this place off my list of local motels to spend the night in!   
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on May 09, 2018, 08:50:23 PM
I can't say exactly how 'new' this is but it's the first time I'd seen it. 

We took 7th street yesterday to get from Telegraph over to Kroger.  Once we got the where 7th is a one way the wrong way we had to go over to 8th.  Within the first few blocks I saw a 'thin red line' flag flying.  They generally are used to recognize fallen firefighters.  There are also thin blue line flags for law enforcement.

Does anyone know who this flag might be honoring?

It's on the north side of the street.  I'll go that way again and try to get a more precise location.

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Haven't noticed it - I'll have to check it out.   
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on May 10, 2018, 08:42:22 AM
Haven't noticed it - I'll have to check it out.   

It's on W 8th on the north side of the street between Union and Bacon.  Seems like it's a little closer to Bacon. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: rwwjr on May 10, 2018, 01:48:52 PM
Haven't noticed it - I'll have to check it out.   
There is a volunteer firefighter that lives on W 8th  It could be on his property, just as a memorial
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on June 09, 2018, 01:51:59 PM
Curious what is going on the field next to the college...   they have worked up ground and have all kinds of colored flags in the rows as if they were conducting a seed plot test...   

Is this a college thing or someone else?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on June 09, 2018, 09:12:12 PM
They planted some stuff.  Ned Birkey plowed it up.  In the paper today....
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 10, 2018, 08:42:00 AM
Curious what is going on the field next to the college...   they have worked up ground and have all kinds of colored flags in the rows as if they were conducting a seed plot test...   

Is this a college thing or someone else?


It's 'both'...    article explains it pretty well.

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20180609/college-hosting-research-community-food-test-plots (http://www.monroenews.com/news/20180609/college-hosting-research-community-food-test-plots)

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Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on June 11, 2018, 03:52:00 AM
They're tearing down the former BP Station on N. Dixie in front of Detroit Beach. 

Anyone know if something new is going in there?


I see that the tall aerial sign post at the site of the old Howard Johnson motel is pretty much the only thing left standing. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on June 11, 2018, 07:21:46 AM
It's 'both'...    article explains it pretty well.

[url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20180609/college-hosting-research-community-food-test-plots[/url] ([url]http://www.monroenews.com/news/20180609/college-hosting-research-community-food-test-plots[/url])

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I saw this right after I posted...  I guess I should have walked out and got the paper sooner  :) 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on June 11, 2018, 07:24:12 AM
They're tearing down the former BP Station on N. Dixie in front of Detroit Beach. 

Anyone know if something new is going in there?


I see that the tall aerial sign post at the site of the old Howard Johnson motel is pretty much the only thing left standing. 

I imagine its all part of the landscape changes to come when they start building the Hospital... 

Curious how long before they start wanting to widen the road - and put in more traffic lights.

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on July 11, 2018, 09:10:19 PM
The old four sided Kroger sign at the old shopping plaza on the Dixe in MonroeTown is laying on the ground the last couple of days.  It doesn't look like it fell but not sure why they'd just leave it laying there either.  They took the sign faces out when they closed the store 25 or so years ago. 

I'm surprised the scrappers haven't gotten it yet...

maybe that's what they're hoping will happen.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: BigRedDog on August 22, 2018, 09:26:05 PM
They're tearing down what was most likely originally and old gas station at the corner of M-151 and the Dixie.  The only activity I've seen there for years is they occasionally open up and sell fireworks.  Probably 15 or 20 years ago someone fixed the old building up a bit and put a steel roof on it.  Still, just fireworks for sale once in a while. 

Does anyone know any history on the building or businesses that might have been there?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 02, 2018, 08:49:19 AM
Still drilling across the road from us.  All lit up at night.  They have run down some serious drill stem in the past 2 weeks.  I'm waiting for the frack tanks to come in next.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on October 02, 2018, 09:35:00 AM
I wondered when they were going to do something with that corner.  It's not like that's a hot place for development though.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 03, 2018, 01:04:36 PM
Maybe another titty bar is going on. I suspect Luna Pier and the township are hurting now that Whiting is off the tax rolls.

I see Monroe is going to fight the DTE valuation.  Always good to be in an adverserial position with the very entities that fund your operations.  Makes no sense to me.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on October 03, 2018, 06:59:56 PM
Maybe another titty bar is going on. I suspect Luna Pier and the township are hurting now that Whiting is off the tax rolls.

I see Monroe is going to fight the DTE valuation.  Always good to be in an adverserial position with the very entities that fund your operations.  Makes no sense to me.

Monroe screwed the pooch when they didn't win the natural gas power plant that was going in.  Heck - they didn't even attempt to compete for it.

I talked to City Officials years ago that this day was coming, but they had their heads stuck in a hole and kept saying coal is the future, it will never close.

Oh well - not my problem.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on October 03, 2018, 07:36:06 PM
I see another NG plant is going in, in Oregon, south of Toledo.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on November 02, 2018, 12:47:52 AM
Someones tearing up a corner of Telegraph  North of river on the West side...  can't recall what was there -
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: eriemermaid on November 02, 2018, 06:10:05 PM
Someones tearing up a corner of Telegraph  North of river on the West side...  can't recall what was there -


Joseph's Brothers? or 1 hour heating?  That side?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on November 02, 2018, 10:06:58 PM
Next to KFC ?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on November 03, 2018, 09:20:54 AM
Its closer to KFC...  looks like they are taking out a parking area    and I don't recall it ever being a gas station
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 03, 2018, 09:21:45 AM
Saw that too.  What is going on next to KFC? 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on November 03, 2018, 09:38:30 AM
Maybe Monroe needs another drug store, like everywhere else or maybe a DG
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 03, 2018, 12:51:44 PM
What really needs to happen is the KFC needs modernized.  Looking pretty ratty lately.  I think both Monroe stores as well as the Adrian store are all owned by the same people.

I quit going to KFC.  CL and I go a bit farther down M52 and eat at Culvers.  They have the best burgers I've ever had.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on November 03, 2018, 10:06:49 PM
What really needs to happen is the KFC needs modernized.  Looking pretty ratty lately.  I think both Monroe stores as well as the Adrian store are all owned by the same people.

I quit going to KFC.  CL and I go a bit farther down M52 and eat at Culvers.  They have the best burgers I've ever had.

They have cheese curds. 

Nice!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 03, 2018, 10:30:14 PM
They have cheese curds. 

Nice!

They have consistently excellent food.  I had their Cod dinner the other day, excellent.  Frozen custard is excellent too and basically the same prices as McDees with real padded seating not plastic and they bring out your food too.

It has become our number one go to spot for lunch or dinner.  Too bad there aren't many around.

The one in Adrian always wins the 'Best Burger in Lenawee County'.

Cheese curds are good too.  So are the onion rings and the fries.  Rings are over the top, real whole Bemuda oinions battered and deep fried.

When I mention going out to eat, CL always says....  Culvers?????
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on November 04, 2018, 06:56:14 AM
Stop it Side,  it's still early in the morning and you're making me extremely hungry
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on November 04, 2018, 08:52:29 AM
What really needs to happen is the KFC needs modernized.  Looking pretty ratty lately.  I think both Monroe stores as well as the Adrian store are all owned by the same people.

I quit going to KFC.  CL and I go a bit farther down M52 and eat at Culvers.  They have the best burgers I've ever had.
I thought they just redid the KFC...  maybe just the outside
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 04, 2018, 10:39:52 AM
Used ti frequent KFC a lot.  Last time we went, I had horrible chicken.  meat was ok but the breading sucked.  It tasted like it got pressure cooked twice.  Haven't been back since, especially since Culvers is comparable in price and just down the road a bit.  We go to Adrian all the time.  CL shops at Wal Mart and Meijers and it's much easier motoring around in Adrian than congested Monroe (I hate the stretch of Telegraph where all the box stores are), terrible congestion.  That who thoroughfare needs to be re-engineered for traffic flow.  Downtown Adrian is terrible with one way streets (like Monroe has and I don't know who comes up with those crap engineering designs but they need to be never instituted), staying out of downtown Adrian eliminates that issue.

On the subject of deep fried chicken. Bob Evans has a fantastic deep fried chicken dinner.  Problem is, it sells out fast.  They start preparing it at 4:30 pm and by 6:30 it's NLA.  Very good.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on November 04, 2018, 11:32:30 AM
Oh so it just isn't me that hates going to Adrian where  I have to fight my way thru downtown and back to do what I wanted.  What a bunch of idiots that designed that mess
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on November 04, 2018, 01:41:23 PM
Oh so it just isn't me that hates going to Adrian where  I have to fight my way thru downtown and back to do what I wanted.  What a bunch of idiots that designed that mess

Pure Michigan!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 04, 2018, 08:40:46 PM
Oh so it just isn't me that hates going to Adrian where  I have to fight my way thru downtown and back to do what I wanted.  What a bunch of idiots that designed that mess

We avoid downtown Adrian at all costs, just like Monroe.  Can you imagine driving a big truck north or south on M52 and having to deal with that joke....  and it is a joke, a bad joke.

Just like downtown Monroe.  At least big trucks are barred from downtown Monroe., well almost.  I used to run Dixie to Elm and down Elm to Telb to the yard but I could because I wasn't a 'thru truck'.  The Monroe police knew who we were and where we were going.

Not that way in Adrian. M52 is a state connector and as such has a 163K load limit.

Very poor planning on the part of the Adrian city planners.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 04, 2018, 08:43:39 PM
Pure Michigan!

Pure bad roads, pure bad drivers, pure stupid insurance rates, pure screw you pension tax.  It's 'pure' allright.  Gonna be real 'pure' after Whitmer really screws things up.  I cannot wait.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on November 05, 2018, 06:07:11 PM
Pure bad roads, pure bad drivers, pure stupid insurance rates, pure screw you pension tax.  It's 'pure' allright.  Gonna be real 'pure' after Whitmer really screws things up.  I cannot wait.

4 years of gridlock on the way.

I just hope that she doesn't find a way to go the Granholm route and run up a bunch of debt to "fix the damn roads" just when we are finally paying off the Jenny from the Block debt.

Those that are too dumb to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 05, 2018, 09:57:53 PM
One of my big issue with Whitmer (other than she's a Granholm wannabe) is she's anti 2A and Michigan is a sport hunting state.  Her vision is no firearms in private hands.  Bad enough I get to hear that from liberal states like Oregon and Kalifornia but Michigan...  Give me a break.

Guess we will know on Wednesday how bad it will be.  Got a feeling between Prop 1 and Whitmer, the slides are greased for a trip down the tubes.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on November 07, 2018, 10:44:29 PM
I see the pile of concrete next to KFC on N. Telegraph is getting bigger...   Maybe they are collecting it 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 08, 2018, 12:04:32 PM
Have to look, I'm heading that way today.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on November 15, 2018, 10:25:01 PM
Well down the road south and across the road from the KFC  neighbor pile of concrete -  it appears someone is developing a strip mall as they dug out the concrete there and look to expand possibly? 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on November 16, 2018, 12:36:56 AM
Napa is moving to the building on Telegraph that just got painted NAPA blue and grey. The old NAPA will be torn down to make room for more parking at the Credit Union.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on November 17, 2018, 09:30:55 AM
Napa is moving to the building on Telegraph that just got painted NAPA blue and grey. The old NAPA will be torn down to make room for more parking at the Credit Union.

That's going to make that nicer for the CU and give NAPA a better location with parking as well.

Any Idea of the KFC neighbor?   
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 17, 2018, 06:58:41 PM
Gonna rant a bit and I hope Maverick is paying attention...  I'm also going to write to the MN as an opinion editorial letter...

I've lived out here between Petersburg and Deerfield for over 30 years now and in those thirty odd years, one thing that never changes is the deplorable condition of the unpaved road.  Not just the road in front of the farm, but all unpaved roads in Monroe County.  They all suck big time.  Without exception I might add.

The MCRC's patent answer is grading and application of stone but in reality, that is a band aid fix at best.  The underlying issue and what causes the roadbed to become unstable, generate huge potholes and get soupy is never addressed.

That underlying issue is, the berms are higher than the road bed so the water ponds on the road and causes that instability.  Added to that is the absence of drainage ditches on at least one side of the road.  When I moved out here there were shallow ditches, those have vanished due to farmers using them as dead furrows and filling them in because they are too lazy to reverse direction on the headlands and turn the dead furrow to the land side not the spoil side.

It's way past time for the MCRC to get their Gradall out of the barn and start cutting in ditches on roadsides and cutting berms down to road grade to allow the water some place to go besides the middle of the road.  We pay enough in taxes and the MCRC has enough funding to institute that and get it done.  If necessary, farmers should be assessed for the cost as it was their negligence that caused the ditches to be filled in, in the first place.

I'm really sick of crap secondary roads in this county.  Besides having substandard primary roads we have sub-sub standard unpaved roads.

I can go west a mile into Lenawee County and the horrible wet, mucky pot holed road turns into a dry, smooth freeway because the LCRC maintains the ditches and the berms are lower than the road bed.  Pretty simple really.

Time for the MCRC to get off it's arse and actually do something to benefit the residents of Monroe County instead of buying real estate and sitting around the barn drinking coffee, eating doughnuts and wasting taxpayer dollars.  Thye have not only the equipment but the manpower to do it.

Rant over but I'm not stopping there.  Nest is a letter to the editor and who know what else.  I'm really sick and tired of the inability of the NCRC to maintain the infrastructure of the county.  After all, that is their ONLY job and they fail miserably at it.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on November 17, 2018, 10:06:46 PM
But the MCRC will harass a new business at Smith and Telegraph forcing them to put in a million dollar entrance into the mulch lot.  All the while the roads they maintain are crap.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on November 18, 2018, 02:13:52 AM
There's an opening at the Road Commission for a 6 year term as a board member. The best way to influence a solution is to be a part of it.
I believe the application deadline is still open.
The county board of commissioners is not the Monroe County Road Commission. Separate entities all together.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on November 18, 2018, 06:47:45 AM
I though the MCRC appointed someone recently
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on November 18, 2018, 08:46:55 AM
There's an opening at the Road Commission for a 6 year term as a board member. The best way to influence a solution is to be a part of it.
I believe the application deadline is still open.
The county board of commissioners is not the Monroe County Road Commission. Separate entities all together.

Is this a legit - or do they have someone picked already that has political ties? 

I've applied 3 times -  each time they already had their choice but had to go through the procedure...   



in our area  they have been filling in the shoulders with stone (properly)  - another reason the roads crumble and fail on the edges...    Proper drainage has always been necessary for a road to survive. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 18, 2018, 09:25:29 AM
Over the years, I've learned that the road commish appoints who they want with total disregard for correct procedure.  Mav, I wanted you to read my missive for an another reason.  You know the movers and shakers, I don't and my chance of getting on the road board is about as good as winning the lottery.

Talk about a dysfunctional tax payer funded entity, there it is.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 18, 2018, 09:31:33 AM
But the MCRC will harass a new business at Smith and Telegraph forcing them to put in a million dollar entrance into the mulch lot.  All the while the roads they maintain are crap.

Exactly.  It's a simple, in your face thing that they cannot comprehend or don't want to.  Far sa the business on Stearns and Telegraph, it is an eyesore and really shouldn't be there.  Should be in an industrial zoned area like on Lavoy between Dixie and Telegraph.  How would you like to be the residents living west of that (hint, I know some).  Talk about devaluing property values, there it is.  In fact, should be between Toledo Steel and American handling across from the water treatment plant.

BTW, Jounior Bates owns that property. and it was supposed to be sold to Dundee Products but the deal fell through, for what reason, I have no idea.  Knowing Bates, I bet whomever is running / owns that mess is related somehow to Bates.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 18, 2018, 09:33:56 AM
Is this a legit - or do they have someone picked already that has political ties? 

I've applied 3 times -  each time they already had their choice but had to go through the procedure...   



in our area  they have been filling in the shoulders with stone (properly)  - another reason the roads crumble and fail on the edges...    Proper drainage has always been necessary for a road to survive.

Only 'drainage' considered right at the MCRC is the urinal in the men's room or the bushes out back.  Don't have a clue or should I say, don't want to have a clue.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on November 21, 2018, 11:16:29 AM
I though this place was gone for sure the other day when I had the message " account suspended"
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: eriemermaid on November 21, 2018, 01:15:11 PM
I did too blue2. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on November 21, 2018, 04:13:12 PM
MN Pm'd me as well.  I see we are back in business.  Good deal.

Hi Erie btw.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on December 04, 2018, 09:08:40 AM
well not "new" but new activity around a foundation that has been sitting for a year on N. Raisinville

Must have got a job as it seems they ran out of money on their house and live behind it in two trailers... 

Surprised the township or inspectors have allowed the hole in the ground to sit for a year -

But then again not sure what the law is on living in a trailer on your own property
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on December 04, 2018, 07:01:00 PM
I though this place was gone for sure the other day when I had the message " account suspended"

I was thinking about going on to see if I could get the domain name....

 ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 04, 2018, 09:55:56 PM
Only thing I see is a growing abundance of unfilled potholes and all the MCRC equipment sitting at the garage on Ida West Road when I drive by.....

Must be a helluva Eucher game...
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on December 06, 2018, 11:13:29 PM
Napa is going to town on their parking lot -  wonder how long before they move.

the KFC  next door lot has some large drain pipes piled up and appears to be some foundation work - still not sure what. 

Miss BRD for those land owner tidbits...   
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Maverick on December 07, 2018, 12:02:23 AM
I heard the other day that it is going to be another strip mall type of development.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on December 07, 2018, 06:13:01 PM
I heard the other day that it is going to be another strip mall type of development.

I saw a new sign today -  saying something about a possible tennant  a smoothie type place... 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on December 07, 2018, 09:47:31 PM
I notice that another building burnt to the ground in Monroe.

What an opportunity.

 8*

Is that what they call "re-framing?"
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 08, 2018, 07:42:52 AM
I notice that another building burnt to the ground in Monroe.

What an opportunity.

 8*

Is that what they call "re-framing?"

Cheap urban renewal and keeps the fire department busy.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on December 08, 2018, 11:17:21 AM
Cheap urban renewal and keeps the fire department busy.

I question the investment in fire departments if all we are going to achieve is watering embers.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on December 08, 2018, 01:21:54 PM
They do more than that. 
 The Bedford FD is the reason the church was totally destroyed.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 08, 2018, 02:30:34 PM
They do more than that. 
 The Bedford FD is the reason the church was totally destroyed.

I would agree with that 100%.  Firefighters remind me of the 'squirrel squad' when it comes to destroying things.  Chop, hack and hell with it...

Not into preservation of anything.  Never have been.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on December 08, 2018, 05:13:53 PM
They do more than that. 
 The Bedford FD is the reason the church was totally destroyed.

I guess sometimes you don't want to wait all night to watch something burn down?

You need to have it burn faster?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on December 10, 2018, 09:46:31 AM
I would agree with that 100%.  Firefighters remind me of the 'squirrel squad' when it comes to destroying things.  Chop, hack and hell with it...

Not into preservation of anything.  Never have been.

Well when the educated professionals learn a few things this may be an educational topic

Fire is a interesting study -   it grows exponentially and with time- will engulf all 

Time is the biggest enemy of firefighting -  so any small delay can cause total loss

History has taught us that - along with the many studies done by engineers and agencies dealing with such issues. 

Its why full time fire departments have much more success than their counterparts -  not because of special skills -  but because of "TIME"...     you still have the court house and many countless properties downtown because of the full time response in just the City of Monroe alone...  you don't always read about the ones that were saved - just the ones lost ;) 

When it is a total - its not worth exposing firefighters and yes they wait all night to let it burn - while still applying water to control and contain so it doesn't spread to other properties.   Embers from the initial moments of the bowling alley were found in neighborhoods.     

I have a lot more if you need it - ask away
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 10, 2018, 10:06:18 AM
I garner my opinions from what I see and not the mechanics of it.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on December 10, 2018, 11:25:43 AM
I garner my opinions from what I see and not the mechanics of it.
My point exactly - you don't see the "saves"...  ;)     

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on December 10, 2018, 01:00:47 PM
Is that why they moved the new fire station to a less central location?

To improve response time?

 8*
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on December 10, 2018, 01:02:21 PM
For some of us we have to be on all the time.

We don't get to sit back and be happy about the occasional save.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 11, 2018, 11:44:46 AM
My point exactly - you don't see the "saves"...  ;)     

It appears to me that the 'saves' are a minority while the 'totals' are the majority.  When you unleash the 'squirrel squads' on any structure fire.  It becomes a free-for-all with destruction.  Seen that play out many, many times.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on December 11, 2018, 05:11:53 PM
I don't have one minute of training for fighting a fire but the church on Lewis is a mystery..The building was huge and pretty well spread out.  The fire started in one end.  So what did the firefighters do. Start spraying water there and all they did in my opinion is push the fire throughout the rest of the structure.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 11, 2018, 07:49:19 PM
Relative term WAS huge.  Now just a huge empty space.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on December 21, 2018, 11:53:44 PM
It appears to me that the 'saves' are a minority while the 'totals' are the majority.  When you unleash the 'squirrel squads' on any structure fire.  It becomes a free-for-all with destruction.  Seen that play out many, many times.

Probably true in your neck of the woods -     

I can attest to the fact we saved more than we lost in my 30 years...

I don't have one minute of training for fighting a fire but the church on Lewis is a mystery..The building was huge and pretty well spread out.  The fire started in one end.  So what did the firefighters do. Start spraying water there and all they did in my opinion is push the fire throughout the rest of the structure.

If that is the facts -  then it's likely true -   however the time again is the issue - like Nortel,   if its been going (and you can't always see or tell from the "front" -    the usual tactic is defensive and surround and drown.       Large open span areas lend to roof collapses -   so if you really want to protect on of those structures and don't have an alarm system -  and large fire department response,  you should put in a sprinkler system to contain it until the FD arrives. 
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on December 21, 2018, 11:54:47 PM
I noticed a house torn down behind the Marathon on Telegraph and M-50   -   leaving a good sized lot open,  curious what's in store there!
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on December 22, 2018, 10:33:59 AM
Probably true in your neck of the woods -     

I can attest to the fact we saved more than we lost in my 30 years...


I think we both can agree that your old department isn't what it used to be Prof.

Seems like we were both at the meeting when your old department decided to commit suicide?

Let me ask you.....

How ashamed would you have been to be third on scene to a fire in the city?

Seems to me if I was a City Fireman I would be pretty appalled at that.

Probably why the Monroe Evening News and City releases glossed over the fact.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 22, 2018, 07:16:59 PM
Driving anything but a lifted 4x4 out here is asking to get stuck, the roads are that bad.  Cannot wait for another rain to make it worse.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on December 22, 2018, 07:44:14 PM
Driving anything but a lifted 4x4 out here is asking to get stuck, the roads are that bad.  Cannot wait for another rain to make it worse.

Roads around here are drying out. 

Well - except the areas where the road is the ditch.....

 ;D
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 22, 2018, 09:01:33 PM
Roads around here are drying out. 

Well - except the areas where the road is the ditch.....

 ;D

You just described 90% of the secondary roads in Monroe County...  a ditch.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on December 23, 2018, 06:35:44 AM
The road comm says all it's money so they can run snowplows on the 3 interstates..
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 23, 2018, 12:45:58 PM
The road comm says all it's money so they can run snowplows on the 3 interstates..

Kisonias published my letter in yesterday's MN.  I suggest you read it.  Cannot wait for a lame answer from Randy Pierce.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on December 23, 2018, 07:00:26 PM
Kisonias published my letter in yesterday's MN.  I suggest you read it.  Cannot wait for a lame answer from Randy Pierce.

My guess is you will have a long wait.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 23, 2018, 07:28:34 PM
My guess is you will have a long wait.
  Maybe not, I'm planning on sending a copy to Randy Pierce...
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on December 23, 2018, 08:28:33 PM
  Maybe not, I'm planning on sending a copy to Randy Pierce...

Care to post the highlights here?  For the reading pleasure of those of us that don't have a need for paper to line bird cages and litter boxes?
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 24, 2018, 08:23:22 AM
Care to post the highlights here?  For the reading pleasure of those of us that don't have a need for paper to line bird cages and litter boxes?

Certainly.  I believe in agitating, just ask BRD....lol  Of course it's only agitation when it hits home.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on December 24, 2018, 08:41:48 AM
I dont get the paper anymore because the carrier either didn't like going a few miles out of the way for just one paper or someone on my street would steal it.  I can't see the article you mention when I look online.  The MEN doesn't put much online unless you pay for it
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on December 24, 2018, 09:55:33 AM
I dont get the paper anymore because the carrier either didn't like going a few miles out of the way for just one paper or someone on my street would steal it.  I can't see the article you mention when I look online.  The MEN doesn't put much online unless you pay for it

It fascinates me that the MEN does that.

Seems to me like much better papers make their money online by advertising as you click on more and more links.

The fact that the News wants you to pay to even look to me is an admission that they don't have many links to click on in the first place.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 25, 2018, 10:30:32 PM
It fascinates me that the MEN does that.

Seems to me like much better papers make their money online by advertising as you click on more and more links.

The fact that the News wants you to pay to even look to me is an admission that they don't have many links to click on in the first place.

Probably not.  Look at the town they are in.  Going down the tubes.  Maybe the MN is following suit.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on December 26, 2018, 09:17:57 PM
Probably not.  Look at the town they are in.  Going down the tubes.  Maybe the MN is following suit.

Its been a long and slow decline, but I believe the deterioration of Monroe is picking up steam. 

It doesn't seem like it can support the level of businesses it did in the past.

Kind of sad that some think a National Park is the solution - but there you have it.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 26, 2018, 09:24:57 PM
It is marginally better than a defunct and rotting paper mill.  Marginally.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 26, 2018, 09:28:02 PM
It will go into passing gear when DTE slam dunks them,  Ain't nothing left.  Is Detroit Stoker still around or did they fold too.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on December 26, 2018, 09:40:26 PM
It will go into passing gear when DTE slam dunks them,  Ain't nothing left.  Is Detroit Stoker still around or did they fold too.

Maybe we should start a page documenting all the manufacturing businesses and companies that used to be around Monroe but is now long gone.

Ford.
Paper Mills.  This was Multiple Operations that covered BLOCKS of this City.  I think the only building still there is the now warehouse across from the Y that is rotting away mostly.
Monroe Auto Equipment (MFG) - Just a smoke stack left.
La Z Boy (MFG) - Turned into SR Housing.
Stoker a shell of its former past.
Monroe Castings....  Not sure if that was the name - at Front and Roessler.  The former home of the Firemans Dog.

I am sure I am missing many - but Monroe is no longer the town I grew up in.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 27, 2018, 08:23:47 AM
Once you lose your industry (and employment), you become a bedroom community and your tax base goes south.  Even Dundee has industry, actually a lot of it on Plank road and more behind the high school.  People consider Dundee a bedroom community but it really isn't.

Once the industry leaves and the community has to rely on homeowners taxes for operating expenses, taxes go up because politicians NEVER operate on less, always MORE
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: blue2 on December 27, 2018, 09:06:05 AM
example in Toledo, another crap hole worse than Monroe.  They had nearly a millions left in one of the budget funds and just had to spent it because it was there.  Some wanted to put it toward streets which are really bad but the majority prevailed and they decided to upgrade the parks and spend most of it for new signs.   I think the punks and thugs already know where the parks are.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 27, 2018, 03:02:50 PM
example in Toledo, another crap hole worse than Monroe.  They had nearly a millions left in one of the budget funds and just had to spent it because it was there.  Some wanted to put it toward streets which are really bad but the majority prevailed and they decided to upgrade the parks and spend most of it for new signs.   I think the punks and thugs already know where the parks are.
 

Toledo has had a long succession of crap mayors and corrupt city council's. and this new Pollack is no different.  He's an idiot just like the last one was. Carty Stinkfinger could do better.  Toledo City Council is nothing more that a bunch of money grubbing good old boys.  Glad I don't live there.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 27, 2018, 03:04:06 PM
I'd say from observance that Toledo and Monroe are on pretty equal footing far as being crooked.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on December 27, 2018, 06:19:07 PM
Once you lose your industry (and employment), you become a bedroom community and your tax base goes south.  Even Dundee has industry, actually a lot of it on Plank road and more behind the high school.  People consider Dundee a bedroom community but it really isn't.

Once the industry leaves and the community has to rely on homeowners taxes for operating expenses, taxes go up because politicians NEVER operate on less, always MORE

Dumbdee has done a far better job at attracting large quality employers than Monroe has.

That isn't really debatable given the data.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: SidecarFlip on December 27, 2018, 11:17:44 PM
Beyond a doubt.  Monroe is resting in the past and sinking like an old boat with a leaky hull.
Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Professor H on January 02, 2019, 12:20:58 PM
Dumbdee has done a far better job at attracting large quality employers than Monroe has.

That isn't really debatable given the data.

But the idea that you have to give tax abatement's offsets any "New" development

Monroe City is  land locked  by self decisions long ago determined the limits of their growth.   With everyone wanting an Industrial park  -   you've seen the sprawl of development in patches around the county with little coordination as each fifedom wants to control it all... 

Kind of like other duplication of services except taxpayers don't really get a say

Title: Re: Notice any thing new driving around Monroe County?
Post by: Monroe Native on January 02, 2019, 06:01:22 PM
But the idea that you have to give tax abatement's offsets any "New" development

Monroe City is  land locked  by self decisions long ago determined the limits of their growth.   With everyone wanting an Industrial park  -   you've seen the sprawl of development in patches around the county with little coordination as each fifedom wants to control it all... 

Kind of like other duplication of services except taxpayers don't really get a say

The City of Monroe has all sorts of Industrial zoned property - including direct access to a port - that hasn't been developed.

Tons of land.

Being landlocked has nothing to do with their ongoing failures.