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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #855 on: December 24, 2015, 02:55:39 PM »

It's really a sad state that about half of our population anymore is only qualified to work fastfood joints.  So let's raise the rate of pay instead of educating kids so they have some skills
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« Reply #856 on: December 24, 2015, 03:22:57 PM »

You are such a.....  well you know what you are.

I know EXACTLY what I am.  I'm a republican patriot just like you.  Except I've wasted a few years less of my life posting on this board than you have. Merry Christmas my republican brother!
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #857 on: December 24, 2015, 06:22:15 PM »

It's really a sad state that about half of our population anymore is only qualified to work fastfood joints.  So let's raise the rate of pay instead of educating kids so they have some skills

I wouldn't really say they are qualified, but they have to take what they can get.
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« Reply #858 on: December 24, 2015, 07:47:36 PM »

I guess that folks have growth so wealthy that they no longer have to even work:



...or maybe not:



What is that first one a graph of? There is no legend.

The second one is out of date.

http://frac.org/reports-and-resources/snapfood-stamp-monthly-participation-data/

Participation has been going down, but perhaps we can turn that around by eliminating the minimum wage and pay those people what the labor market will bear.

Maybe then we can get that rate going back up again.
« Last Edit: December 26, 2015, 12:55:23 AM by Tim Heiss »
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« Reply #859 on: December 24, 2015, 10:35:42 PM »

What is that first one a graph of? There is no legend.


I know it isn't Occupy Democrats or the much cited Eclectablog (the site that TPP claims her avatar from), but these numbers are from the U.S. Department of Labor Bureau of Labor Statistics:

http://data.bls.gov/generated_files/graphics/latest_numbers_LNS11300000_2005_2015_all_period_M11_data.gif
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #860 on: December 25, 2015, 11:23:02 AM »

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« Reply #861 on: December 25, 2015, 03:49:57 PM »

I know it isn't Occupy Democrats or the much cited Eclectablog (the site that TPP claims her avatar from), but these numbers are from the U.S. Department of Labor Bureau of Labor Statistics:

http://data.bls.gov/generated_files/graphics/latest_numbers_LNS11300000_2005_2015_all_period_M11_data.gif

I see you have nothing of substance to reply to on the rest of my post.

Keeping your mouth shut is probably yout best move.
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« Reply #862 on: December 25, 2015, 09:58:40 PM »

I see you have nothing of substance to reply to on the rest of my post.

Keeping your mouth shut is probably yout best move.

LOL!

My observations.

1.  You don't think US Government data is valid - even though out of all of us you should think the US Government is competent?  Isn't that totally ironic?  I guess you decided to ignore his jab about the source of the data..... ;D

2.  You never actually made much of an argument about his post for him to answer to that I saw....  Yet you act like you won the discussion because he didn't respond to you..... Also funny!
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« Reply #863 on: December 25, 2015, 10:55:42 PM »

LOL!

My observations.

1.  You don't think US Government data is valid - even though out of all of us you should think the US Government is competent?  Isn't that totally ironic?  I guess you decided to ignore his jab about the source of the data..... ;D

2.  You never actually made much of an argument about his post for him to answer to that I saw....  Yet you act like you won the discussion because he didn't respond to you..... Also funny!
I asked him what his first graph represented because it doesn't have a legend. You know, that information that tells you what the graph lines mean?

The link I provided showed data that states the number of people recieving benefits has been trending downward. And it's also provided by the government. In fact it shows the same data as his example except for the data for the last few years.

Must be why he was using old data.

My statement was that with a little work the Republicans could get that number to go back up if they could just eliminate the minimum wage.

But I was wrong because thar would mean they actually cared about the plight of the poor.

And we all know that's just not true
« Last Edit: December 26, 2015, 12:50:05 AM by Tim Heiss »
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« Reply #864 on: December 25, 2015, 11:56:37 PM »

I really haven't been following along with what at first glance seems to sound like a rivalry. I dunno. And I'm still not going to take sides, because I wouldn't know just how far I would have to go back.

But I have generally disagreed directly when, a) data is misrepresented, b) cherry-picking of data to support an argument, c) skewing data to support the statistics desired.

That being said, I saw this the other night and bookmarked it, not realizing that it may be topical. Again, not supporting or defending one position or the other; just throwing it out there to see what sticks.

The most misleading charts of 2015, fixed

http://qz.com/580859/the-most-misleading-charts-of-2015-fixed/?google_editors_picks=true
« Last Edit: December 26, 2015, 12:10:49 AM by arpydave »
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #865 on: December 26, 2015, 07:25:15 AM »

I see where someone apparently tried to burn down Bill Clinton's birthplace...

in the city of Hope, Arkansas!!!

I wonder if Monica has an alibi ??? ??? ???


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/12/26/bill-clintons-first-home-damaged-fire/77904858/
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« Reply #866 on: December 26, 2015, 07:44:19 AM »

Probably at the dry cleaners picking up a blue dress.
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« Reply #867 on: December 26, 2015, 09:27:00 AM »

I'm thinking Jennifer Flowers.....

Or maybe just someone in Arkansas is tired of it being home of the Clintons.
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #868 on: December 26, 2015, 10:53:28 AM »


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http://www.reuters.com/article/usa-islamic-state-documents-idUSKBN0U805X20151225
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« Reply #869 on: December 26, 2015, 11:16:51 AM »

Thanks....that was an interesting post, but being the skeptic that I am, I noted "US interpretation" along with a few other things that hints of "propaganda".  All organizations and forms of government use propaganda as a tool.....and now this certainly makes me think Rueters could have been used as a tool.

Yea, I know......Fuzz, tune up that tin hat.  Everything in that story could have been fact, but I just flatass don't trust the media anymore to publish facts without persuasive dialog accompanying it to sway opinion.
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