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Krell found guilty!
« on: June 28, 2007, 10:20:56 PM »

Can you believe that story that Krell told in court today??  Did he honestly think that story was going to explain his comments on the telephone to the 9-1-1 operator??

The 9-1-1 recording says it all.....I would have found him guilty due to that whopper alone!  ::)
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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2007, 10:30:26 PM »

Can you believe that story that Krell told in court today??  Did he honestly think that story was going to explain his comments on the telephone to the 9-1-1 operator??

The 9-1-1 recording says it all.....I would have found him guilty due to that whopper alone!  ::)

If he is guilty of this crime than please bring in all the others who killed someone on accident in this town! Why does he only have to pay? Hmm the guy on the boat who killed the man a couple summer's ago, the high school girl who was too tired to drive and killed the Mother of two children and their are more true stories of people who just don't have to pay. It's wrong and their is no justice in this town!
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2007, 10:58:12 PM »

Bravo Vicky, you are so right. Why do these lawyers and judges, for that matter, walk around town holding their heads so high?  I suppose that they figure that their words are golden. When they have the power to ruin lives of innocent people, then I only feel contempt for them. There have been many people that have walked away free even though they killed another person. Oh, you say it was just an accident?  This was also a perfect example of an accident.  I've heard it said before in this town, it's who you know.
    From what I've read, I'd say today's trial was the perfect example of , "an eye for an eye."
  Lets' get the whole bunch of offenders. The teenagers should have been charged with littering.
  I am SO SICK of having to pick up all these junk bottles that kids throw along the side of the road. Honor students wouldn't have been littering, right?
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2007, 11:16:36 PM »

Bravo Vicky, you are so right. Why do these lawyers and judges, for that matter, walk around town holding their heads so high?  I suppose that they figure that their words are golden. When they have the power to ruin lives of innocent people, then I only feel contempt for them. There have been many people that have walked away free even though they killed another person. Oh, you say it was just an accident?  This was also a perfect example of an accident.  I've heard it said before in this town, it's who you know.
    From what I've read, I'd say today's trial was the perfect example of , "an eye for an eye."
  Lets' get the whole bunch of offenders. The teenagers should have been charged with littering.
  I am SO SICK of having to pick up all these junk bottles that kids throw along the side of the road. Honor students wouldn't have been littering, right?
Yes your totally right Doubtfire! Honor Students should know better than to throw trash out! I thought their was a law agaist littering? I thought they fined people if they littered? If they didn't throw out the water bottle than none of this would of happened. Justice in this town is a joke, they only get who they want to and for the others they are free and clear.
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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2007, 12:11:15 AM »

I haven't been following this case very closely, so my opinion on this is pretty uninformed, however, I really have to wonder what exactly is considered reasonable doubt when I read something like this:

"...one of the teens testified that he remembers blue headlights were on the chase car. Mr. Krell's car has white headlights." (http://tinyurl.com/2pmjgm)

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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2007, 06:25:00 AM »

i havent followed it totally either...but from what i understand...the kid threw and hit his vehicle with the bottle is that correct? if so...i might have given chase also!
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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2007, 09:22:16 AM »

This is wierd  I was just warned by the Law that its against the law to do this.  A Couple of Weeks  ago right after school got out I was Traveling down a Main Road in Monroe County and a group of Teens threw something out their window and hit my vehicle and was yelling vulgarities out the window. So as a good citizen I followed after them to write down there plate number and they began to speed. Well to make a long story short I caught up with them  at  the next redlight  and as soon as the vehicle stopped two younger gentleman get out of the back doors (SUV) one with a Tire Iron coming towards my Vehicle. So I wasn't taking it Sitting down, I get out of my Vehicle and these young men were threating me until my door opened and I got out and went walking towards them. I said three words..."who wants some" They called the Cops I got in trouble ???
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2007, 09:24:54 AM »

FIRST OFF WAY TO GO MONROE COUNTY ANOTHER JOB DONE BAD! NOT SURPRISING OF COURSE THOUGH. JUST KEEP DRAGGING THIS CITY DOWN. Mr. Krell was a well rounded man who may have made a bad decision but one I think we all would have made had that kid threw something at our car! Mr. Krell would have never prusude the car at a high rate of speed if the driver of the car full of kids would have not been speeding. The whole thing is ridiculus if any one is to blame for the death of the boy and the injury of the girl it is Mr. Oberle. He should have never been driving a vehicle that fast, regardless of the situation. All in all the entire situation is Mr. Oberle's fault. Kids don't think about what can happen when they are wreckless. We all have been there. I think it is just terrible that Mr. Krell will now have to lose years of his life because of some one elses mistake. Again WAY TO GO MONROE COUNTY. LETS GET SOME MORE IDIOTS IN HERE TO RUN OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2007, 09:31:41 AM »

Oh my god!!!  Sorry, but I disagree.  Mr. Krell used very poor judgment that night and sorry but actions like that have consequences sometimes.  He didn't predict the outcome but he is an adult and should have been more responsible.  The situation and events that took place that night are unfortunate and very sad.  Someone died that would not have, someone is cripled that wouldn't be and this didn't happen because of a "empty" plastic bottle hitting a vehicle, it happened because of Krell's careless pursuit to chase these young kids down.  Sorry, but he should have known better than to take it to the extreme that he did.  No, the kids shouldn't have done what they did but an empty plastic pop bottle pretty much just skims off a car going at a rate of 45 mph and wouldn't have penetrated to do any damage.  This I know, because it happened to me.

What I'm tired of is seeing is town or city officials, board members, commissioners, etc ALWAYS skate by and typically get away with everything when they do something wrong.  It's never in the paper, always hidden and brushed under a rug.  To be honest, I was surprised at the verdict.  I was almost 100% sure he was going to be another one of those that slipped through the system with a mere slap on his hand.  He lied on the stand (under oath let me add!!!), told a ridiculous and unbelievable story and you want to give him credit for that???  NO!!  He made himself look even worse (totally uncredible) and probably would have gotten more sympathy had he owned up to it and showed nothing but the utmost remorse.  People are more forgiving when you yourself, come forward and admit you made a huge mistake and that you are truly sorry for it.  What was he thinking to come out lying like that when the 911 recordings were concrete evidence of his guilt...HELLO.  

The whole situation is a sad one.  I also realize he's not the only one to blame here, the other driver is guilty too.  I just expect more from a grown, intelligent family man that has responsibilities at home and to his family.  He made a mistake and for that, he should pay.  All he had to do was follow the car, get the license number and report it......it was that simple.  He took matters into his own hands and a huge tragedy took place.  A beautiful life was lost, another beautiful life will have to struggle for the rest of her life with a disability and his family will suffer because of his careless behavior.  Shame on you Mr. Krell.  
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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2007, 09:58:12 AM »

I THINK MANY DISAGREE!!! I think it is a natural reaction to get upset and follow someone. Mr. Oberle could have prevented all this had he just drove at a resonable speed. He is the one to be saying SHAME ON YOU to! Yes Mr. Krell is an adult but I think that plays a little role in this.
Mr. Krell should have not lied on the stand but I am sure he was scared and I am sure he was advised by his attonery to say what he said. I am sure his life was flashing in front of his face and we all do some things when we are put in the corner that maybe we shouldn't do.  In so many cases where does being that honest person get you anyways.
Everyone is looking to point and finger at some one to try to make themselves feel better about the lose of there loved one but pointing fingers don't bring loved ones back. Nor does it heal injuries. By Mr. Krell going away for an ACCIDENT isn't going to help.
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« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2007, 11:21:40 AM »

I'm glad to see all the recent posts on here today! I agree and disagree with some on here. I wondered if anyone on here has ever been at the wrong place at the wrong time? Mr. Krell was in that place. Teenagers throwing a water bottle at his car and they thought it was funny. It's not too funny now. I still think they should get a ticket for littering!
I do agree that these people that work in Monroe for the Judical system never have to pay! I don't know if any of you remember when Mr. Nichols was drinking and driving and got in an accident,before he got elected as Prosecutor. It was in the Monroe Evening News. It stated that the police took him home and nothing more was ever said if he payed for his actions. He wants to get everyone else, but he did he pay? That is unfair justice! This town is for who you know! People are getting away with murder in Monroe and not paying! It's never going to change either!
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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2007, 11:26:47 AM »

Both are to blame for the situation getting os far out of control.....who can determine who is more to blame??? I personally, probably would have followed them too, maybe not so fast, but I would have followed none the less if for no other reason than to tell their parents how out of control they where acting. On the flip side, as a kid....seeing someone that I just accosted with a bottle, following behind me would have probably scared the dickens out of me and I would have been trying to high tail it home really quick for safety too!! Its a natural intinct to run when you know you've done something bad isnt it?...at least for some it is.

With that said, we cant judge either side of the coin...they where both wrong. This is why we should call an accident what it is and work from there...no one had any intention to kill or serious injury to anyone....

Personally, I dont think Mr. Krell should be anymore punished than the young man that threw the bottle or drove the car, and I dont think either should have to go to jail at all. I feel sad for the victims, and I hope they someday come to grips with what happened and are able to move on in life, but severe punishment wont bring about that healing....only time.
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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2007, 10:28:39 PM »

I agree that the kids brought on this whole incident themselves for acting like the idiots they did....and they are just as much to blame.  They were deliberately looking for trouble and unfortuantely for them, found it.  And I think they deserved much more than "littering"....they were obviously trying to cause problems with other drivers and traffic.

However, Mr. Krell is a grown adult and should have simply gotten the license plate number and drove to the police station to make a complaint.   I understand the anger of having to deal with this stupidity but he is old enough to restrain himself from acting like these kids.

He's also old enough to understand the wisdom of telling the TRUTH and simply admitting that the whole situation got out of hand......If I was on the jury, I would have cut him a break for telling the TRUTH, not that whopper that obviously his attorney had him tell. 

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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2007, 10:47:33 PM »

This is a sad affair where there will never be a winner.The thing that sticks out in my mind in reading the story and I don't put myself in judgement of anyone is this : Two wrongs will never make a right!  On one hand we have a young man just entering adult maturity and responsibility that wants to own his mistakes and be a person of honor in accepting responsibility for his actions. On the other hand we have a mature adult that not only has more life experince but has previous leadership responsibility relating to our youth by being on the Bedford School Board denying any involvement . If anyone knows how irresonsible and downright goofy some of our youth can be it should have been Mr. Krell ( and yes I was goofy and reckless at times also .) It is not for me to say if Mr.Krell was lieing to save his hide in court for he knows what the real truth is.I do find it ironic that once again there is a question in my mind regarding the people put in leadership and authority that tell us we need to be responsible for our actions and be responsible but then have a different set of standards for themself. I believe it is wise to know the character of people put in leadership capacity and equally wise that IF they are put in the capacity of judging you as our judiciary is ,that they should be of impeccable character--- which I assure you some of our judges in Monroe County are NOT. This case illustrates  that some bad decisions we make in life follow us to the grave. At best we should be truthful to ourself,  for there is freedom in speaking and doing the right thing that even if not acknowledged by others,  allows us to go through life without guilt and gives our children a legacy of which they can be proud. J. Pat Mc Elligott  
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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2007, 08:34:01 AM »

My $.02, I think this whole case is krap. Krell didn't force the accelerator of the Pontiac, whether he was in pursuit, or not. ::) I've read of no evidence of contact between his car and the Pontiac, so I fail to see any proof of the grave danger that the kids had to run from.

I hope he appeals!
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