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Re: Novus Ordo catholic churches
« Reply #30 on: February 04, 2009, 02:28:45 PM »

The post-concilior newchurch is at the forefront of the move to a world-religion acceptable to the New World Order, working avidly through serpentine schemes such as the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity, the World Council of Churches, and the Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples not for the return of repentant schismatics and protestants into the Catholic fold, as is the Church's duty, but for the reconstitution of the various "religions" throughout the world into one, vulgar, meaningless mish-mash of humanistic ideology - with its newpope as DiabolicalCheerleader #1.

This article asks the question Traditional Anglican Communion set to Enter Catholic Church? <- link

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Reports abound that the Congregation has recommended the creation of a personal prelature as the vehicle through which to receive the members of the Traditional Anglican Communion into full communion with the Roman Catholic Church. The Register contends that an official at the Congregation spoke with their correspondent Edward Pentin today saying,“It’s something that has appeared on the blogosphere and then been reiterated, but the truth is nothing’s been decided.” We set forth our original story below believing that the sources reporting this exciting news and the history of the dialogue support its accuracy.


and then, tripping over himself with ecstatic joy the author says:

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“The Pope is preparing to offer the Traditonal Anglican Communion, a group of half a million dissident Anglicans, its own personal prelature by Rome, according to reports this morning. History may be in the making", reports The Record. "It appears Rome is on the brink of welcoming close to half a million members of the Traditional Anglican Communion into membership of the Roman Catholic Church. Such a move would be the most historic development in Anglican-Catholic relations in the last 500 years. But it may also be a prelude to a much greater influx of Anglicans waiting on the sidelines, pushed too far by the controversy surrounding the consecration of practicing homosexual bishops, women clergy and a host of other issues."


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Some say an announcement could be made soon after Easter this year. Is it true?


Good question...
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Re: Novus Ordo catholic churches
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2009, 10:04:14 AM »

Is it just me, or does that look like the Emperor from the Star Wars Series?
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Re: Novus Ordo catholic churches
« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2009, 09:09:29 AM »

For those who know anything of the occult, Ratzinger clearly shows his affinity for it with his hands:


...and how's this one for a mockery of all things actually Catholic, clowns assisting @ the onstage celebration:

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Re: Novus Ordo catholic churches
« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2009, 02:47:33 PM »

It's not merely coincidence that NewChurch is now bold enough to ape the nonsensical iterations of the globalists' ideology - it's quite clear they are part-and-parcel of the coming New World Order.  Organized Opposition was never so obeisant.  From the IHM "sisters" website:

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"We feel compelled to participate in the shaping of a new world order consonant with gospel values of harmony and unity, peace and justice, and an equitable sharing of the world's resources."

"Compelled?"  By whom?
"Gospel values of harmony and unity?"  Which "gospel" are they referring to?
"Peace and justice?"  "Equitable Sharing?" How do they define "peace", "justice," "equitable" and "sharing?"  I'll bet their "dictionary" has more in common with Black's Law than Webster's.

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"We, as members of the planetary community, recognize and respect the sacredness and interdependence of all creation...

"Planetary community?"  What the hell is that, unless they're extraterrestrial alien life-forms...?
"All creation" is "sacred?"  Last I checked, Satan's minions are part of creation and are anything but "sacred."  Where evil exists it is to be shunned, not "recognized and respected."

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"The IHM Sisters and Associates, impelled by the gospel, stand in solidarity with the people of Haiti, the poorest in the Americas, in their struggle for dignity, life and human rights both in Haiti and in the United States."

"Impelled," yet again, by whose "gospel?" How can "human rights" coexist with man's obligations to God?  They are in opposition to each other and not "complementary."  One must either worship at the altar of man or at the Altar of God.  Where man has exalted himself as the equal of God and slaughtered the children of God without remorse, there can be no righteous solidarity.

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"We urge one another to be conscious of the poverty, hunger and injustice suffered by the great majority of the human family."

"Human family," yet again: nothing about eradicating evil, wherever it exists, only the imaginary "evil" of the Children of God having far superior civilizations than the children of Men have ever had, have now, or will ever have by their own volition.  "Racism" is a sin (against whom or a violation of which of God's Laws they don't say) to be stamped out with an iron boot, but "Feminism" must be hallowed by us all:
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Women and girls are the most affected by hunger and poverty. Traditionally, women bear the primary responsibilities in the most relevant areas - food production, nutrition, family planning, primary health and education. A central component of effective strategy must be the empowerment of women.
We mere mortals are to exalt "woman" as something other than what God created Eve for: a helpmate and companion to her husband, and rearer of his children.

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...ensuring that all people have access to safe and nutritious food...

How is anyone to expect to "ensure safe and nutritious food" globewide without a global governance?  And even with Global Governance such an assurity is absurd on its face.  Are we to "outlaw" poisonous mushrooms?  Are we to feed unrepentent evil-doers so they can continue to multiply beyond nature's allowable limits?

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...white people, who may not see themselves as racist but inherently benefit or gain privilege from a racist society. The continuation of this system harms us as individuals and deprives us of the contributions and experiences that our uniqueness and diversity provide.

"Diversity" is "good," and All Whites are Racist People To Be Destroyed, straight from the Horse's IHMAss.

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...burgeoning international inequality...

They cannot be the "Catholic religious community" they profess to be if they're more concerned with and interested in International Humanism and its self-professed creed of the so-called "equality of men" and the sanctity of HolyMotherEarthCommunitarianism:

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"Convinced that the plight of the Earth is intimately connected to global poverty, violence and oppression, we commit our personal and communal efforts and resources to build sustainable community. This commitment challenges us both to personal transformation and systemic change."

The "church" in Rome and it's multiplicity of "believers" are but willing pawns and faithful servants of their coming "messiah": Anti-Christ.
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Re: Novus Ordo catholic churches
« Reply #34 on: April 01, 2009, 10:13:52 AM »

Carleton church burglarized of artifacts <- link

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The Rev. Robert Bauer told Monroe County sheriff's deputies that the safe contained no money. However, it did hold chalices, ciboria and a monstrance, which are considered sacred vessels used for Holy Communion.
Chalices and ciboria are the containers used to hold and distribute consecrated hosts and wine. The monstrance is used to display a consecrated host during prayer services.


NewChurch makes no claims of "consecrating" anything - especially the bread/pizza/crackers or whatever the hell they're using as "host" at any given service/celebration/HoeDown...
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Re: Novus Ordo catholic churches
« Reply #35 on: April 10, 2009, 08:32:18 AM »

The w**** of Babylon
The Abomination of Desolation
The End of Days

The Truth about What Really Happened to the Catholic Church after Vatican II <- link

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Matthew 24:15 - “When therefore you shall see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place: he that readeth let
him understand.”
Matthew 24:24-25 - “For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Behold I have told it to you, beforehand.”
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Re: Novus Ordo catholic churches
« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2009, 08:35:12 AM »

I knew I'd find it somewhere, sometime: confirmation, from one of those involved, that the marxist/communist/satanic elements of the world intentionally infiltrated and gained control of the Catholic church through stealth, patience, and even outright murder - culminating in the "election" of Roncalli/the 2nd John XXIIIrd and his anti-pope successors.

The "Prophecy" of Bella Dodd <- link

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       In light of the current confusion and moral scandal in the Church, it would be well to consider a neglected bit of recent Church history: the public testimony of Bella Dodd, who served as legal counsel to the Communist Party in the United States until her conversion to Catholicism, after which she spent the rest of her life atoning for her role in the communist infiltration of the Catholic Church.


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I listened to that woman for four hours and she had my hair standing on end. Everything she said has been fulfilled to the letter. You would think she was the world's greatest prophet, but she was no prophet. She was merely exposing the step-by-step battle plan of Communist subversion of the Catholic Church. She explained that of all the world's religions, the Catholic Church was the only one feared by the Communists, for it was its only effective opponent. The whole idea was to destroy, not the institution of the Church, but rather the Faith of the people, and even use the institution of the Church, if possible, to destroy the Faith through the promotion of a pseudo-religion: something that resembled Catholicism but was not the real thing. Once the Faith was destroyed, she explained that there would be a guilt complex introduced into the Church…. to label the ‘Church of the past’ as being oppressive, authoritarian, full of prejudices, arrogant in claiming to be the sole possessor of truth, and responsible for the divisions of religious bodies throughout the centuries. This would be necessary in order to shame Church leaders into an ‘openness to the world,’ and to a more flexible attitude toward all religions and philosophies. The Communists would then exploit this openness in order to undermine the Church.


...despite Roncalli, Montini, Luciani and Wojtyła being buried with full masonic, satanic symbolism and regalia NewChurch is planning the latter's "beatification" and everything and everyone truly Catholic are its demons. 

If the upside-down cross on Wojtyla's coffin doesn't jolt your brain, what would?

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Re: Novus Ordo catholic churches
« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2009, 09:40:40 AM »


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The cross on Pope John Paul II's coffin is upside down - an inverted cross.

While an upside cross can be used as a representation for Satanism, this is not exclusive, and is not the case in this instance.

The cross of Pope John Paul II's casket is called St. Peter's cross.

St. Peter, who had the leadership role of The Apostles, was crucified upside down for his beliefs.

This was done at the request of Peter who believed he  was not worthy to  be crucified in the same way as Jesus.

As Catholics we believe that the Pope is the successor of Peter.

Therefore, the upside down cross is a fitting symbol to be placed on Pope John Paul's casket.

Continuing, the cross is  accompanied by the letter "M" which stands for Pope John Paul's  personal devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary.
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Re: Novus Ordo catholic churches
« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2009, 09:57:17 AM »


The cross on Pope John Paul II's coffin is upside down - an inverted cross.

While an upside cross can be used as a representation for Satanism, this is not exclusive, and is not the case in this instance.

As Catholics we believe that the Pope is the successor of Peter.

Therefore, the upside down cross is a fitting symbol to be placed on Pope John Paul's casket.

Continuing, the cross is  accompanied by the letter "M" which stands for Pope John Paul's  personal devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary.

Despite the Vatican's pronouncements on the subject, in Wojtyla's case the upside down cross has nothing to do with St. Peter or his death but a fitting symbol of his "spiritual father" Lucifer; the M is for his beloved communistic masonry, not any "devotion" to the Blessed Virgin.  An openly schismatic heretical man like he cannot be considered Catholic or a legitimate successor-of-Peter Pope by anyone but the blasphemous NewChurch and its adherents.
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Re: Novus Ordo catholic churches
« Reply #39 on: April 14, 2009, 10:05:28 AM »

Despite the Vatican's pronouncements on the subject, in Wojtyla's case the upside down cross has nothing to do with St. Peter or his death but a fitting symbol of his "spiritual father" Lucifer; the M is for his beloved communistic masonry, not any "devotion" to the Blessed Virgin.  An openly schismatic heretical man like he cannot be considered Catholic or a legitimate successor-of-Peter Pope by anyone but the blasphemous NewChurch and its adherents.

This statement by Pax Gothorum is an egregious falsehood and serves as an example that coincides fully in and with his professed Catholic conspiratorial propaganda assertions and theories.





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« Reply #40 on: April 14, 2009, 10:10:07 AM »

You are both wrong.  The cross is not upside down.  (FYI: The wide side of the casket is the top.) The markings on the casket are a version of John Paul II's Coat of Arms.

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« Reply #41 on: April 14, 2009, 10:14:34 AM »

You are both wrong.  The cross is not upside down.  (FYI: The wide side of the casket is the top.) The markings on the casket are a version of John Paul II's Coat of Arms.




I know of and about Pope John Paul II's Coat of Arms.

Thank you for the perspective that you have provided.
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« Reply #42 on: April 14, 2009, 10:57:32 AM »

Our Church <- link
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John Paul prayed with heretics, gave eternal salvation to heretics, make pacts with heretics, defended heretics.

He was masonic in his actions and words so even if we cannot prove he was a member, his deeds convict him of freemasonry and his associations with them and all the enemies of the Roman Catholic Church.

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So Antipope John Paul II has publicly ensured his listeners over and over again that Catholics should not try to convert non-Catholics and that the Catholic Faith is not necessary for attaining salvation.

Pope Pius IX, Nostis et Nobiscum (#10), Dec. 8, 1849: “In particular, ensure that the faithful are deeply and thoroughly convinced of the truth of the doctrine that the Catholic faith is necessary for attaining salvation.”(68)


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On February 28, 1962 the rite of holy orders was changed by John XXIII and his freemason comrade Bugnini, so it means that an ordained priest is not a true priest or it is doubtful. Compare the ritual and words of holy orders to the decree of Trent. But even if form and matter may seem proper what about the intention (substance)... They use other orders and "sacraments" according to Vatican II and the novus ordo. So that tells you if you accept their phony rites, phony bishops, phony priests and "sacraments" you will go to hell.


Ecumenism Papacy Masonry <- link

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The extra-Biblical and anti-Christian nature of this fifth column within the Church is patent. It derives its credibility almost entirely from the blind allegiance it commands from Christians duped by usurpers and traitors occupying high ecclesiastical office, and by the tremendous glamour which the media accord it.

Since the great criterion of Jesus Christ for assessing the diabolic or the divine was "by their fruits ye shall know them," we discern that the fruits of today's Protestant and Catholic leaders are mostly rotten in this regard. As such, their actions reveal that they are neither "vicars of Christ," nor His ministers or saints.


Wojtyla rewarded by Freemasonry <- link

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As the steps of the beatification process for John Paul II are being rushed forward, we thought it would be interesting to contribute to it by reminding the public of an award given to him by the Italian Freemasonry.

The text of the news report speaks for itself regarding how Pope Wojtyla helped to spread the ideals of those enemies of the Catholic Church, and the high esteem they had for him.


Freemasonry <- link
(make sure you click on the symbols page)

Horned Hand or The Mano Cornuto <- link
(no "papal" pictures there, but I already included one on this thread)

1 Kings 16,7:
And the Lord said to Samuel: Look not on his countenance, nor on the height of his stature: because I have rejected him, nor do I judge according to the look of man: for man seeth those things that appear, but the Lord beholdeth the heart.
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Re: Novus Ordo catholic churches
« Reply #43 on: April 14, 2009, 12:04:24 PM »

You are both wrong.  The cross is not upside down.  (FYI: The wide side of the casket is the top.) The markings on the casket are a version of John Paul II's Coat of Arms.




You are saying the photographer was above in a balcony taking the photo, from the head end of the casket, and the candle is on the right hand side of his casket, so the symbol is by his feet? We're sort of looking at it upside down right?
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« Reply #44 on: April 14, 2009, 12:29:18 PM »

You are saying the photographer was above in a balcony taking the photo, from the head end of the casket, and the candle is on the right hand side of his casket, so the symbol is by his feet? We're sort of looking at it upside down right?


Exactly.  Here's another view of it:

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