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Re: Holcim/Dundee Cement: More jobs lost for Monroe Co.?
« Reply #45 on: September 13, 2007, 11:09:24 AM »

This is all I see for the top link:


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« Reply #46 on: September 13, 2007, 06:22:58 PM »

You guys are a riot...you'd have government regulate us out of business.  Keep hugging that tree nice and tight because everyone who is losing their jobs in Michigan and Monroe might have to cut it down to keep warm this winter.  Guess you dont work there or your tune would be very different.  Campaign contributions don't always equal a "Yes" vote...I'm not sure the $300 Richardville got from Enron for his campaign which ran in the hundreds of thousands is going to sway him a tremendous amount.  But, I'm sure you rocket scientists will disagree.  Based on your logic the money that Kate and Kathy took from Jon Stryker should make them Pro-Gay and ready to vote for same sex marriage...can't have it both ways boys. ;)  Keep barking up the wrong tree you'll get there sooner or later.

Enron donated $1600 from a PAC. The PAC's are the only ones identified individually and are small potatoes. The big bucks came for the Republican Nat. Committee of course. But since they don't individually identify where all that money comes from, the smaller PAC's give some idea of who the contributors are. Don't minimalize. I'm not minimalizing my thoughts to one particular plant. I'm thinking on the grander scheme of things. Give Holcim amnesty and every old plant in Michigan will follow suit. They have nothing to lose. Only the workers lose. Where is Holcim's responsibility for lost jobs? No one is pointing a finger there. You obviously can't see the big picture what is the stranglehold on America by big money right now that is pushing the privatization of all in America. It is not a good thing. There is too much wealth and monopoly for the little guy to enter into any free market enterprise and hope to grow. The little guy or new businesses will be drummed out  and the wealthy will rule more so then they ever have. In which case, as a Holcim worker, you would not only be facing a future that is and has been shaky but making quite a deal less money or perhaps replaced by illegal immigrant workers. If and when the plant closed it's doors, your pension might also be in jeopardy with no recourse as trial lawyers are also being targeted. There is a reason our borders have been left open. Why no new green business is coming to states that are large polluters, and why no one fighting to keep polluters here ever show the cost in lost property values, or rising health care costs that feed into the disaster of our economy with lost tax base and a rising load on the health care system that in these blogs was said to be heading our country to bankruptcy. 
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Re: Holcim/Dundee Cement: More jobs lost for Monroe Co.?
« Reply #47 on: September 15, 2007, 06:17:10 PM »

Well the following story really isn’t about Holcim except for maybe the air pollution connection.

Black smoke from an oil refinery darkens the skies over Houston -- airspace already ranked among the most polluted in the country. For thousands of residents living right alongside the city's industrial plants, the odors and dust in the air are clear signs the plants are polluting the environment. But no one has ever bothered to tell them exactly what they are breathing...until now. EXPOSÉ details the Houston Chronicle investigation that gave a city the answers to some troubling environmental questions.

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http://www.pbs.org/wnet/expose/episode205/watch.html

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« Reply #48 on: September 15, 2007, 08:35:23 PM »

Well the following story really isn’t about Holcim except for maybe the air pollution connection.

Black smoke from an oil refinery darkens the skies over Houston -- airspace already ranked among the most polluted in the country. For thousands of residents living right alongside the city's industrial plants, the odors and dust in the air are clear signs the plants are polluting the environment. But no one has ever bothered to tell them exactly what they are breathing...until now. EXPOSÉ details the Houston Chronicle investigation that gave a city the answers to some troubling environmental questions.

Video:
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/expose/episode205/watch.html


I'd like to see a study about increase in health risks from the coalburner. It's the second largest in the country. My mom has to get her blood taken weekly and the hospital personnel want to know what's with Monroe? Too much cancer for its size. And DTE are heroes for just now installing scrubbers? They should have been there all along although they do nothing for mercury and CO2, just breathing irritants.
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Re: Holcim/Dundee Cement: More jobs lost for Monroe Co.?
« Reply #49 on: October 03, 2007, 05:55:34 PM »

 I saw this discussion going on here, so I thot I would repost my comment from another board.
Re: MDEQ Public Hearing about Holcim
« Reply #2 on: 01-10-2007, 09:52:10 »   

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I lived near Holcim in Dundee, and let me tell you that place can stink up the whole village.
It smells like putrid sewage.

Holcim Dundee is one of Michigan's worst air polluters (aren't we lucky, we have Detroit Edison Monroe on the list, too).
They are sucking vast amounts of our water from the local aquafiers and streams.
The blasting that goes on can cause a person to lose their peace of mind, and compromise their homes foundation.
The high amount of truck traffic to and from the plant causes wear and tear on the roads, which are maintained at taxpayers expense. The trucks are noisey, and pose a greater risk for a traffic incident or accident.
Holcim Dundee still uses wet processing for cement, a method which is no longer environmentally sustainable, or economically competitive.

I am sure most of the Holcim Dundee workers count on their jobs to take care of their families, and plan for retirement. They are probably the last ones who would want to breath deadly air,
have their home's foundations crack, lose their sources of water, or fight trucks driving through town. (Ask the crossing guard there on the curve into town, she warned the kids and i about the trucks, and to stay well back on the sidewalk, as sometimes they come up on the curb.)


Holcim US, Inc. is owned by Holcim Ltd:
Holcim Ltd
Zuercherstrasse 156
8845 Jona
Switzerland
Tel: 41/55/640 34 94
URL:  http://www.holderbank.com
 
Formerly known as:
Holderbank Financière Glarus AG
 
This global corporation has the technological resources and the finances available to upgrade Holcim US Inc.

They will probably relocate to a developing country, or Mexico, like Ford Motor Company did, where they can pay workers pennies on our dollar, rape and pillage the environment, and ruin the health of the locals.


keywords: American owned,American made,Zero discharge
_endit_

I am curious as to any tax breaks or deferments Holcim US and Holcim Ltd may have received over the years.

keywords: corporate welfare

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Re: Holcim/Dundee Cement: More jobs lost for Monroe Co.?
« Reply #50 on: October 08, 2007, 03:00:51 PM »

Well Ms. Monroe, we know you are a country bumpkin like myself as you live on a dirt road (by your admission) and over here in Summerfield Township we are lucky to be downwind of Holcim most of the time.  I say most because sometimes the wind is blowing from the northeast to the southwest and I too get to smell it.  It was much worse in past years, at least the stink was and I attribute the reduction in stink to some advances by Holcim in scrubbing the crap from their exhaust but I still get the residue (which looks like some red dust) on everything around here if the wind is blowing the right way.  I'm glad when we moved here years ago we didn't buy ground in London Township or up that way.  I'd probably be long dead from some aliment directly associated to breathing the crap that comes from Holcim's stack.

Far as I'm concerned they can either get in compliance or shut down.  There is little unemployment in the Dundee area anyway so I'd think any laid off employees would soon be working again.  Besides, Dundee Cement, Holcim is another foreign owned company plundering the resources of this country for monetary gain.  Besides that, they are dropping the water table around here (been doing that for years) with their gigantic quarry.  I say, send 'em packing, let the quarry fill with water and lease it to Cabela's for an all sports lake.

Granted, the VISIBLE emissions are better than 10 years ago but what about the emissions you can't see.  While the visible emissions are less, I can still use the stack and it's plume as a guiding landmark to know I'm getting close to Dundee, Hub of the Highway, excuse me, Stink of Monroe County. ;D
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Re: Holcim/Dundee Cement: More jobs lost for Monroe Co.?
« Reply #51 on: October 08, 2007, 04:08:39 PM »

You guys are a riot...you'd have government regulate us out of business.  Keep hugging that tree nice and tight because everyone who is losing their jobs in Michigan and Monroe might have to cut it down to keep warm this winter.  Guess you dont work there or your tune would be very different.  Campaign contributions don't always equal a "Yes" vote...I'm not sure the $300 Richardville got from Enron for his campaign which ran in the hundreds of thousands is going to sway him a tremendous amount.  But, I'm sure you rocket scientists will disagree.  Based on your logic the money that Kate and Kathy took from Jon Stryker should make them Pro-Gay and ready to vote for same sex marriage...can't have it both ways boys. ;)  Keep barking up the wrong tree you'll get there sooner or later.
I would have government regulate America to prosperity! We need to balance the trade deficit! That means getting tough on imports, American companies who want to take their business out of America, and foreign companies who operate here. Environmental regulations are necessary. I, for one, can remember the condition of Lake Erie when I was a child. That is what you get when you let companies regulate themselves. I am very sensitive to the Holcim worker's job security. They should be put to work updating the plant.
I think it is important to note who candidates get money from. The amount doesn't matter, it is the principle.
And as far as hugging trees go, I try to hug one daily. : P
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« Reply #52 on: October 08, 2007, 07:43:15 PM »

And as far as hugging trees go, I try to hug one daily. : P


Just don't hug an Ash tree.  You might just get an Emerald Ash Borer drilling into your cranium.....
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« Reply #53 on: October 08, 2007, 07:47:09 PM »

Just don't hug an Ash tree.  You might just get an Emerald Ash Borer drilling into your cranium.....
That just reminds me im sick of foreign imports!  >:(
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« Reply #54 on: October 08, 2007, 07:57:26 PM »

That just reminds me im sick of foreign imports!  >:(

If you are really sick of foreign imports, I mean really sick, throw the imported computer you are posting on through the window (whose frame probably came from a foreign country as a raw material) and try to hit your (I presume American automobile) whose content is a large percentage of foreign parts.  Maybe it will catch on fire and will be fueled by the gasoline that was refined from middle eastern oil fields.  You'll need to call the fire department on your phone which probably came from Taiwan ROC and when the fire department gets there, just remember all the electronics that made the call and their dispatch happen was imported.  Maybe, just maybe, their turnout gear is imported too.

People who live in glass houses should not throw stones................
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« Reply #55 on: October 08, 2007, 08:34:11 PM »

If you are really sick of foreign imports, I mean really sick, throw the imported computer you are posting on through the window (whose frame probably came from a foreign country as a raw material) and try to hit your (I presume American automobile) whose content is a large percentage of foreign parts.  Maybe it will catch on fire and will be fueled by the gasoline that was refined from middle eastern oil fields.  You'll need to call the fire department on your phone which probably came from Taiwan ROC and when the fire department gets there, just remember all the electronics that made the call and their dispatch happen was imported.  Maybe, just maybe, their turnout gear is imported too.

People who live in glass houses should not throw stones................
I hope that's not what you do to relieve stress! you a$$ume a lot about me, but I confess, I could use my purchasing power more carefully, and I intend to try. I also intend to vote...that is how I will express my disgust @ foreign imports.
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« Reply #56 on: October 09, 2007, 10:31:49 AM »

I hope that's not what you do to relieve stress! you a$$ume a lot about me, but I confess, I could use my purchasing power more carefully, and I intend to try. I also intend to vote...that is how I will express my disgust @ foreign imports.

I'm not at all stressed one way or another.  Since I retired at a young age I farm when I want to and teach part time.  Being one with the land is the best stress reliver known to me at least.

I just find it interesting that people put down imported goods when in reality, if they look around, they will find they are surrounded by them.  Look at farming equipment for example.  You think for a minute that those green tractors or red ones are made here....not.
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