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[lordfly]

Put some solar panels on your Tempo!

vroom vroom!

[ChadB]

vroom vroom!

Tempo SVO....Solar Vehicle Operations

[Chips]

Yeah it doesn't kill any wild animals or harm any part of mother earth except maybe the millions of acres Solar Panels would cover.

Mike

Yes, the solar panels would be so much worse than the oil fields, refineries, strip coal operations and all those beatiful
coal and nuculer power plants.

[BigMike]

With all the solar panels you wouldn't have room for anything else.

Mike

[BigMike]

If solar panels were so outrageously inefficient, there wouldn't be a market for them, even with thousands of dollars worth of government subsidies.

I've heard of installations of a single panel being installed on a house cutting electric costs down by 10-15%. Not bad, for a single panel.

Solar is making huge strides, but nuke power is where it's at, to the max. Put one in every coastal community in Michigan and power the continent.

Yes there would be, because someone else is paying for it.

[lordfly]

Yes there would be, because someone else is paying for it.

And why would this "someone" else be paying for it if it didn't have SOME benefit?
Surprisingly enough, people aren't going to be convinced to literally throw money into a bottomless pit just for the hell of it. There has to be some advantage to it. Why do businesses do it, if it doesn't affect the almighty bottom line? Government subsidies don't pay for it 100%.

Solar power is not the Messiah of electrical generation yet. But it's also not a complete waste of time. If it were, the many many companies making them wouldn't be gaining funding, or researching and developing, or sending panels across the world.

[lordfly]

With all the solar panels you wouldn't have room for anything else.
Mike

Funny, I don't see solar panels blocking out the sun in the yard in homes that have them installed.

Citation... needed?

[zard0z]

If solar panels were so outrageously inefficient, there wouldn't be a market for them, even with thousands of dollars worth of government subsidies.

I've heard of installations of a single panel being installed on a house cutting electric costs down by 10-15%. Not bad, for a single panel.

Solar is making huge strides, but nuke power is where it's at, to the max. Put one in every coastal community in Michigan and power the continent.

No one is listening lordfly, they've had someone else make their minds up for them...It's pointless to even try to educate them of the realities and benefits.

[Pax]

Solar power certainly has benefits - clean electricity production being primary.  But until the cost(s) of all the necessary accoutrements comes down not many people are going to be jumping on the bandwagon - if it takes 20 or 30 years to pay for itself (if it ever does) not many people are inclined to make such an investment; and more governmental boondoggling is never the answer to any question.  "Tax incentives" are subsidies are taxpayer-funded welfare, regardless of how exemplary the intentions.

Nuclear is the way to go: the "spent fuel" can be recycled to make it useful again, it's clean, pollution-free, and relatively inexpensive - if only the NRC would just stop meddling so much as to make it, too, cost prohibitive and a decades-in-the-making boondoggle, like they did for Fermi II.

[ell]

Sadly, everything has it's price.  There is concern about large solar arrays in the desert and their impact on the ecosystem.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29837101/

[Chips]

With all the solar panels you wouldn't have room for anything else.

Mike

Whatever!

[SidecarFlip]

If solar panels were so outrageously inefficient, there wouldn't be a market for them, even with thousands of dollars worth of government subsidies.

I've heard of installations of a single panel being installed on a house cutting electric costs down by 10-15%. Not bad, for a single panel.

Solar is making huge strides, but nuke power is where it's at, to the max. Put one in every coastal community in Michigan and power the continent.

That's the most outrageously stupid post I've ever seen you make.  You obviously know littlle about solar arrays.  At least you have the foresight to understand that atomic power is the clean answer but coal will still be king way past our generation simply because of the stigma associated with reactors and the fact that coal is very plentiful in North America and it supports a large contigent of the population.

One panel might cut your usage 10-15% if you use one 15 watt light bulb in your home and nothing else.

Ever price a polycrystaline solar panel Mr. Fly?  Somehow I don't believe you ever did. 

A 50 watt panel will set you back about 400 bucks.  That's 50 watts at 14.5 VDC, not 50 watts at 110 VAC.  You have to convert the 14.5 VDC to AC by way of storage batteries and inverters and inverters are notoriously inefficient so your lone 50 watt panel probably produces 30 watts of useable 110 VAC power...and only when the sun shines.  Other times, you run on storage batteries..expensive batteries no less.

Now if you are referring to one array of say 12 panels x 50 watts nominal, it could offset your residential usage but the input cost would be close to 10K to get the physical plant set up to produce the power and that would only offset, not replace your consumption with a green alternative.

If you want to be green on a budget, heat your hot water with a passive array.  Lots cheaper and quicker payback plus it too qualifies for Obama's rebate.

[BigMike]

Funny, I don't see solar panels blocking out the sun in the yard in homes that have them installed.

Citation... needed?

On a big level, to run industry you need a lot of power. Like I said check the link I posted to the City of Portland.

[BigMike]

Whatever!

Whatever eh? The word of the intellectually beaten.

I think all the Greenies and those who believe man has destroyed everything he touched OUGHT to remember the very computer they're writing their non fact based drivel on is run by electricity anf if you're posting from near Monroe it's probably coming from Fermi or the Monroe Plant.

[Lethlweapn]

Whatever eh? The word of the intellectually beaten.

I think all the Greenies and those who believe man has destroyed everything he touched OUGHT to remember the very computer they're writing their non fact based drivel on is run by electricity anf if you're posting from near Monroe it's probably coming from Fermi or the Monroe Plant.

Whatever is also the word used by those who have given up trying to teach the ignorant that refuse to listen.