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Re: AMBER ALERT!!!! Monroe Mi
« Reply #255 on: May 26, 2009, 03:56:27 PM »

LOL billy and common, I never heard of either place!
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Re: AMBER ALERT!!!! Monroe Mi
« Reply #256 on: May 26, 2009, 03:57:50 PM »

No, Polliwog is a wooded area at the end of Michigan Ave. there are trails that run through there all the way to the quarry behind Holiday Inn. It is very thick in some spots. I rode my mountain bike through some of it trying to look around, it's fairly close to the apartment complex this all began. 
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Re: AMBER ALERT!!!! Monroe Mi
« Reply #257 on: May 26, 2009, 04:02:28 PM »

I appreciate what you are saying College Kid, however George Kennedy wasn't charged for peeing in the woods or looking at a 17 year old on a computer, The Facts ONLY he was sent to prison for the following charge.
THE MICHIGAN PENAL CODE (EXCERPT)
Act 328 of 1931


750.520e Criminal sexual conduct in the fourth degree; misdemeanor.
Sec. 520e.

(1) A person is guilty of criminal sexual conduct in the fourth degree if he or she engages in sexual contact with another person and if any of the following circumstances exist:

(a) That other person is at least 13 years of age but less than 16 years of age, and the actor is 5 or more years older than that other person.

(b) Force or coercion is used to accomplish the sexual contact. Force or coercion includes, but is not limited to, any of the following circumstances:

(i) When the actor overcomes the victim through the actual application of physical force or physical violence.

(ii) When the actor coerces the victim to submit by threatening to use force or violence on the victim, and the victim believes that the actor has the present ability to execute that threat.

(iii) When the actor coerces the victim to submit by threatening to retaliate in the future against the victim, or any other person, and the victim believes that the actor has the ability to execute that threat. As used in this subparagraph, "to retaliate" includes threats of physical punishment, kidnapping, or extortion.

(iv) When the actor engages in the medical treatment or examination of the victim in a manner or for purposes which are medically recognized as unethical or unacceptable.

(v) When the actor achieves the sexual contact through concealment or by the element of surprise.

(c) The actor knows or has reason to know that the victim is mentally incapable, mentally incapacitated, or physically helpless.

(d) That other person is related to the actor by blood or affinity to the third degree and the sexual contact occurs under circumstances not otherwise prohibited by this chapter. It is an affirmative defense to a prosecution under this subdivision that the other person was in a position of authority over the defendant and used this authority to coerce the defendant to violate this subdivision. The defendant has the burden of proving this defense by a preponderance of the evidence. This subdivision does not apply if both persons are lawfully married to each other at the time of the alleged violation.

(e) The actor is a mental health professional and the sexual contact occurs during or within 2 years after the period in which the victim is his or her client or patient and not his or her spouse. The consent of the victim is not a defense to a prosecution under this subdivision. A prosecution under this subsection shall not be used as evidence that the victim is mentally incompetent.

(f) That other person is at least 16 years of age but less than 18 years of age and a student at a public school or nonpublic school, and either of the following applies:

(i) The actor is a teacher, substitute teacher, or administrator of that public school, nonpublic school, school district, or intermediate school district. This subparagraph does not apply if the other person is emancipated or if both persons are lawfully married to each other at the time of the alleged violation.

(ii) The actor is an employee or a contractual service provider of the public school, nonpublic school, school district, or intermediate school district in which that other person is enrolled, or is a volunteer who is not a student in any public school or nonpublic school, or is an employee of this state or of a local unit of government of this state or of the United States assigned to provide any service to that public school, nonpublic school, school district, or intermediate school district, and the actor uses his or her employee, contractual, or volunteer status to gain access to, or to establish a relationship with, that other person.

(g) That other person is at least 16 years old but less than 26 years of age and is receiving special education services, and either of the following applies:

(i) The actor is a teacher, substitute teacher, administrator, employee, or contractual service provider of the public school, nonpublic school, school district, or intermediate school district from which that other person receives the special education services. This subparagraph does not apply if both persons are lawfully married to each other at the time of the alleged violation.

(ii) The actor is a volunteer who is not a student in any public school or nonpublic school, or is an employee of this state or of a local unit of government of this state or of the United States assigned to provide any service to that public school, nonpublic school, school district, or intermediate school district, and the actor uses his or her employee, contractual, or volunteer status to gain access to, or to establish a relationship with, that other person.

(2) Criminal sexual conduct in the fourth degree is a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than 2 years or a fine of not more than $500.00, or both.

Again, this is not about the friend, the boyfriend, the reason's for RSO to register. This is about the known facts of the case. We know that this mother allowed person's with known past crimes against children around her child. The only thing in my mind that anyone is guilty of at this point is poor judgement to say the least. We need to come together, brainstorm, and try to help find this little girl??? There will be plenty of time to convict and see what if anything the mother, or the friends had to do with any of this. I hope and pray NOTHING!
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Re: AMBER ALERT!!!! Monroe Mi
« Reply #258 on: May 26, 2009, 04:03:39 PM »

I don't think his attempted 3rd degree was due to porn as that would be either 2nd or 4th degree CSC, because 1st & 3rd degrees CSC are penitration and I'm not really sure how you would attempt to penitrate porn, so I think there may be more to it than that.  In saying that, I agree with collegekid that the man shouldn't be cruicified because of his past.

However, if someone has confirmed the porn thing then they may be talking about his CSC 4th degree conviction that is listed on the MI Dept. of Corrections website from when he did time in Prison for 2nd Home Invasion...

It is obvious that this man has some issues and regardless of all of that...as a mother of a 6y.o., I would not have had him around my child regardless if I "loved" him or not and I only pray that this little girl is found safe and sound and unharmed....
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Re: AMBER ALERT!!!! Monroe Mi
« Reply #259 on: May 26, 2009, 04:07:28 PM »

Does anyone know if the police have utilized any of the volunteers. It just seems that some of these areas would be better searched by foot.
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Re: AMBER ALERT!!!! Monroe Mi
« Reply #260 on: May 26, 2009, 04:07:49 PM »

someone just wrote on myspace that they found her....but i dont think its true!!! i havent seen anything on t.v. ..... why would someone post that?
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Re: AMBER ALERT!!!! Monroe Mi
« Reply #261 on: May 26, 2009, 04:08:29 PM »

I don't think his attempted 3rd degree was due to porn as that would be either 2nd or 4th degree CSC, because 1st & 3rd degrees CSC are penitration and I'm not really sure how you would attempt to penitrate porn, so I think there may be more to it than that.  In saying that, I agree with collegekid that the man shouldn't be cruicified because of his past.

However, if someone has confirmed the porn thing then they may be talking about his CSC 4th degree conviction that is listed on the MI Dept. of Corrections website from when he did time in Prison for 2nd Home Invasion...

It is obvious that this man has some issues and regardless of all of that...as a mother of a 6y.o., I would not have had him around my child regardless if I "loved" him or not and I only pray that this little girl is found safe and sound and unharmed....

I was not saying that it was porn per se, just that it would be my guess based on the way I read the charges. I have not done any specific research into what the charges mean. I'm sure the information is available, but to be honest, I don't care what he did in the past.
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Re: AMBER ALERT!!!! Monroe Mi
« Reply #263 on: May 26, 2009, 04:13:20 PM »

This link has info on a search party, a phone number to volunteer to search, and a reward fund that has been created...

http://www.detnews.com/article/20090526/METRO01/905260386/1361/Family--neighbors-pitch-in-to-search-for-girl--reward-offered
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Re: AMBER ALERT!!!! Monroe Mi
« Reply #264 on: May 26, 2009, 04:13:37 PM »

College Kid,

Not all of us are trained journalists as you stated that you are. Some of us are just every day people with no particular training required for that. Mistakes are just that mistakes. We don't all have the time or the desire to be veteran talkers on here. I find it very interesting with all of your professional training that you can find the time and the know how to continue to remind us all not to point out that mistakes in or past our mistakes and that you can not convict someone of their past. You appear to be somewhat defensive concerning the sex offenders, yet find it necessary to call a person a troll if they make a posting error? 

You have a new fan for posting what I have not had the time to type myself..........and the way I read the bf's past criminal record is someone who hurts kids younger than 16--very sick and by no means should this person be defended for anything.
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Re: AMBER ALERT!!!! Monroe Mi
« Reply #265 on: May 26, 2009, 04:15:32 PM »

sentenced to 15 years . . . served . .5?
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Re: AMBER ALERT!!!! Monroe Mi
« Reply #266 on: May 26, 2009, 04:21:53 PM »

I seem to recall a Monroe case a few years back (on the west side) where a man broke into someones house and while there molested a child.  Now I'm not saying that this is the same case as George Kennedys but breaking into a house is home invasion and then the molestation of a child...does anyone else recall this case??  I read about it in the MEN and it couldve been as long as 6-7 yrs ago.

I wish I could quit thinking about this little girl but I cant, I'm human and a parent. 
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Re: AMBER ALERT!!!! Monroe Mi
« Reply #267 on: May 26, 2009, 04:23:50 PM »

It is hard not to think about it especially being a parent.
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Re: AMBER ALERT!!!! Monroe Mi
« Reply #268 on: May 26, 2009, 04:26:38 PM »

sentenced to 15 years . . . served . .5?


Not quite. The home invasion charge carried a maximum sentence of 15 years, that's not what he got.

http://www.state.mi.us/mdoc/asp/otis2profile.asp?mdocNumber=396618
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Re: AMBER ALERT!!!! Monroe Mi
« Reply #269 on: May 26, 2009, 04:30:00 PM »

 Baby girl where are you. I'm not buying that NO ONE from the apt seen nothing. They are always outside, it was nice out, it was a holiday, come on people. What did the little girl see before see went in? how long did it take for the mom to go outside and look? Did she do a quick scan of the area while looking for her daughter? Did anyone notice any cars that was going a a little faster to leave the lot? You can fly that bird all day but I don't understand how they are going to see though a flush wooded area, night yes day no. If they don't have nothing they need to get going, their 48hrs is running out, the rain is coming, and garbage pick up is also started. Maybe they need to come out and tell us what they have for the public can help out.
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