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Re: You people should be ashamed of yourselves.
« Reply #120 on: June 10, 2009, 10:57:24 AM »

Someone being charged SHOULD be allowed to attend. There still would not be a conviction, and without a conviction it would be unlawful to make them not attend the funeral as it is an even that can not be attended if there were to be no conviction later.
I'm so glad the rumor about you being banned was untrue.....keep up the good work CK.....I very much enjoy your posts

I only hope the admin comes to their senses and removes the banishments of those that didn't post personal information
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« Reply #121 on: June 10, 2009, 10:57:40 AM »

She is neither perfect...nor responsible.  I guess I'm at least one ahead of the game...*pats self on the back*

I'd save that patting for another time..... because if you would have read my post, then this statement wouldn't exist. Unless of course, you're just as closed minded as most people I come in contact with....

As for the children born into poverty.... I am one of them. I was born into a household with an abusive father, of whom my mother got rid of, and then us three kids, plus my mother, lived on less than $8,000 a year. Yes, we received food stamps. Yes, we were in subsidized housing. My mother couldn't work, she was disabled. Does that make her stupid, NO.

We didn't ask for that life, but I thank God everyday for it! I didn't turn out like the spoiled brats who had the world handed to them on a silver platter. I learned at an early age to be responsible when it comes to money. Yes, sometimes we had to rob Peter to pay Paul, but just about everyone nowadays understands that. My mother ALWAYS found a way to make sure that there was food on the table, clothes on our bodies, and a roof over our head. Did we get the newest and greatest things? No. But again, I'm very thankful for that.

My mother, even though we were WAY below poverty level, made sure we were taken care of. So don't go and classify and lump everyone dealing with that, together. It's not the same.

But again, if you're closed minded.... then you won't be able to see that. Thankfully, my mother brought me up right.
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Re: You people should be ashamed of yourselves.
« Reply #122 on: June 10, 2009, 10:58:58 AM »

Someone being charged SHOULD be allowed to attend. There still would not be a conviction, and without a conviction it would be unlawful to make them not attend the funeral as it is an even that can not be attended if there were to be no conviction later.
It would be unlawful to let someone attend a funeral that has not made bond (there will not be a bond set). 
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Re: You people should be ashamed of yourselves.
« Reply #123 on: June 10, 2009, 11:00:19 AM »

I'm so glad the rumor about you being banned was untrue.....keep up the good work CK.....I very much enjoy your posts

I only hope the admin comes to their senses and removes the banishments of those that didn't post personal information

Well not necessarily untrue, just premature. However if they Admins here abides by their own TOS, I shouldn't be, but then again, neither should a few others.
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« Reply #124 on: June 10, 2009, 11:00:21 AM »

But again, if you're closed minded.... then you won't be able to see that. Thankfully, my mother brought me up right.

Don't let the close minded bring you down.  You sound like a nice person.  People like that feed off of your reactions.  They are unhappy trolls, sad clowns, etc.

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« Reply #125 on: June 10, 2009, 11:00:39 AM »

Tampa, your words have such weight, but I don't think it's enough to stop this freight train jury mentality. 

I am wondering (dreading) a few things.

I believe I understood on the news that the funeral will be at Merkle and will be open to the public.

I am expecting (though many with good intentions) a mass amount of general public making an appearance.  My heart is broken over this and my intentions are good as well, but I have no place there.  It is still a very personal and UTTERLY painful event for the family to have to go through. 

My questions are: 
How can we be sure those attending are not there out of morbid curiosity?  (we can't) 

Do you think whoever feels moved to attend will keep ALL mention of their ill-feelings toward JB to themselves? 

Do you think they will be able to keep their condemning looks of disgust away from her? 

I am predicting that an answer to any or all of the above is NO.  I am predicting a terrible, horrible nightmare of an event becoming an out of control melee.

GOD!  Please make me wrong.  It's just based on MT the past few days, I can't believe anything else.

Good Post MM1......the mob mentality of this site would certainly make your fears come to fruition.  Unbelievable!
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Re: You people should be ashamed of yourselves.
« Reply #126 on: June 10, 2009, 11:01:04 AM »

(there will not be a bond set). 

Because you are both the judge and prosecutor? Otherwise you would not know that.
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« Reply #127 on: June 10, 2009, 11:02:04 AM »

Because you are both the judge and prosecutor? Otherwise you would not know that.
case study would tell you that
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Re: You people should be ashamed of yourselves.
« Reply #128 on: June 10, 2009, 11:03:12 AM »

Don't let the close minded bring you down.  You sound like a nice person.  People like that feed off of your reactions.  They are unhappy trolls, sad clowns, etc.

Thank you.

I just can't help but to react... especially when it really hits home with me. One of my faults...  :-\
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« Reply #129 on: June 10, 2009, 11:05:36 AM »

Good Post MM1......the mob mentality of this site would certainly make your fears come to fruition.  Unbelievable!
Wow....someone said you were banned as well.....I know it didn't make sense to me either but that's what was said in the ban thread.

Glad to see they were mistaken
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Re: You people should be ashamed of yourselves.
« Reply #130 on: June 10, 2009, 11:06:06 AM »

case study would tell you that

Nope. Things are different in every case. Without knowing the facts we can't know what the charges might be and can't then speculate on whether there would be a bond or not.
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Re: You people should be ashamed of yourselves.
« Reply #131 on: June 10, 2009, 11:14:37 AM »

Yes, CK, we can comment, because we live in America and because there are statistical trends that are directly tied to state and federal laws in how bond amounts are determined and when "no bond" is assigned.

"No bond" is generally assigned for CAPITAL FELONY OFFENSES, or in a state like MI, that does not heave the death penalty, what would constitute a FELONY CAPITAL OFFENSE, if we did...

First degree murder of a child is a FELONY CAPITAL OFFENSE...add kidnapping or abduction and/or sexual assualt, and the FELONY CAPITAL OFFENSE only becomes stronger.

Therefore, there is a very high statistical probability that the person who murdered Nevaeh will be charged with something EQUIVALENT to a FELONY CAPITAL OFFENSE, and therefore, there is a very high statistical probability that there will be NO BOND.

OK, OKKKKK, you can go back to watching yer "Yo Gabba, Gabba" program now...Sorry I interrupted it....but this was important...
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Re: You people should be ashamed of yourselves.
« Reply #132 on: June 10, 2009, 11:19:25 AM »

Wow....someone said you were banned as well.....I know it didn't make sense to me either but that's what was said in the ban thread.

Glad to see they were mistaken

Thanks FF.....still alive and kicking, but have to abide by rules as dictated that others obviously do not have to follow.  Let the mob mentality run rampant as allowed on this site without regard to no charges being filed. 
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Re: You people should be ashamed of yourselves.
« Reply #133 on: June 10, 2009, 11:23:11 AM »

AtypicalGirl......you go on saying that I'm still wrong in my way of thinking.  However....you're saying that your MOTHER (I'm assuming biological) brought you up right.  So are you saying that your mom was a better mother than Jenny Buchanan?  Or are you actually still putting yourself on her level? Your mother was obviously just that....a MOTHER, who loved you and cared for you enough to raise you up the right...to raise you herself at all.  So why are you still defending a woman who cared more about herself and her selfish desires to ignore her own obligations of being a responsible parent??  And if you read my other posts on what I believe "stupid people" are formed from...you'd see my point.  You're taking my statements out of context and YOU'RE making yourself out to be grouped with the "stupids", Not I.   No matter what...I still find it completely irresponsible, lack of judgement and selfish to bring a child into the world if you are not prepared...mentally, physically, emotionally, and monetarily.   Do you really think the OctoMom could take care of her brood without the help of outsiders?  NO...that is a selfish way of thinking.  And more than likely with "mother" like Jenny...her daughter would probably have grown to realize what a piece of crap her mother is and no doubt ended up hating her. No doubt in my mind.
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« Reply #134 on: June 10, 2009, 11:24:42 AM »

case study would tell you that


That's just an assumption...
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