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what to say to the family if you know them?
« on: June 13, 2009, 09:21:42 PM »

I have compiled some goos article for those of you who do know the family of Nevaeh. some of them helped my friends and family get me through my darkest days.
hope they are of help and if anyone wants to add anything positive, feel free.


 
 

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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2009, 09:22:11 PM »

The death of our children at any age from any circumstance is indeed one of the cruelest blows that life has to offer. The journey through this grief is a very long, dark, difficult and painful one for bereaved parents.

In the early minutes, days, weeks, months and even years of grief, we find ourselves in an all consuming grief and pain beyond description. We find it difficult to carry on our everyday lives or to think of little except our children’s death. Even our once wonderfully happy memories, shared with our children while they lived, now bring us pain for a time.

Bereaved parents do not “get over” the death of our children nor “snap out of it” as the outside world seems to think we can and should. The death of our children is not an illness or a disease from which we recover. It is a life altering change with which we must learn to live.

With the death of our children we are forced to do the “impossible”: build a new life and discover a “new normal” for ourselves and our families in a world that no longer includes our beloved children.

It is important for newly bereaved parents to know that they will experience a wide and often frightening variety of intense feelings after the death of our children.

It is also important for newly bereaved parents to understand and know that all of the feelings that you experience are very natural and normal under the circumstances.
Equally important for you to know and believe is that as much as you cannot possibly believe it, you will not always feel this powerful and all consuming grief.

But right now you must follow the instincts of your soul and allow your bodies and hearts to grieve. The grief resulting from your child’s death can not be skirted over, around or under. You must go through it in order to come out on the other side.

Be gentle and patient with yourself and your family. Allow yourself to cry, to grieve, and to retell your children’s story as often as needed and for as long as you need to.

Eventually, you will smile and find joy again. You will never forget your child; he or she will be with you in your heart and memories for as long as you live.

Some of the things you may experience or feel are:

Depression.
A profound longing and emptiness.
Wanting to die. This feeling usually passes in time; for eventually you will realize that you must go on for the sake of remaining family members, yourself and your child who died.
Profound sadness.
Crying all the time or at unexpected times.
Inability to concentrate on anything, frequently misplacing items.
Wondering “Why???”
Forgetfulness.
Questioning yourself over and over: IF only I had… or Why didn’t I...
Placing unnecessary guilt on yourself or others.
Anger with yourself, family members, God, the doctor and even your child for dying.
Fearing that you are going crazy! (very normal)
Great physical exhaustion. Grief is hard work and consumes much energy!
Difficulty sleeping or sleeping all the time to avoid the pain.
Physical symptoms such as heaviness in your chest or having difficulty breathing (if these feelings persist see your physician) tightness in your throat, yawning, sighing, gasping or even hyperventilating.
Lack of appetite or over eating.
Weight gain or weight loss.
Anxiety. (Often associated with overprotective behavior toward surviving children and other family members.)
Denial of your loss, thinking that your child will return. (Denial can be effectively treated by spiritual leaders as well as psychologists. Seek help if your denial phase persists beyond a month.)
Needing to tell and retell the story of your child’s death.
Inability to function in your job.
Sensing your child’s presence or an odor or touch associated with your child.
Having difficulty grocery shopping because of seeing your child’s favorite food(s) on the shelves.
Irrationally upset with yourself if you smile or laugh, thinking how can I smile, my child is dead? (Your child will want your life to be as good and as happy as possible in spite of death’s intervention.)
Feelings as if your spouse or other family members don’t understand your grief or are not grieving as you think they should. Remember everyone grieves differently.
Losing old friends who don’t seem to understand your pain and grief.
Making new friends through support groups with members who have also experienced the death of a child and therefore understand your feelings.
Feeling like you are making progress in your grief work, then slip back into the old feelings. Grief work usually is a succession of two steps forward and one step back over a long period of time.
Becoming very frustrated with others who expect you to be “over this” in a month, six months or a year and who say so. Or even being frustrated with yourself for expecting to be “over this” too soon.
Grief work from the death of your child is a slow process. Be patient with yourself.
Keep remembering that you are not the only one who has had these experiences. These experiences are all typical, natural and normal feelings for bereaved parents. You cannot ignore them: you must work through them. It will require even more time to feel better if you try to deny your feelings. There are no timetables for grief; each person must take as long as it takes for him or her to work through these feelings. Bereaved Parents of the USA believes the grieving process can be made a little easier for you by standing with you to listen to you, to share with you, to support you, to help you to understand your grief and to help you as you work through it. We have been where you are today. We have survived and are ready to help you

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Re: what to say to the family if you know them?
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2009, 09:35:42 PM »

TALKING WITH FRIENDS WHO HAVE LOST A CHILD
-By Linda Waxler

Do not worry that mentioning the name of the child will "remind" bereaved parents of their child. We remember our child every minute of every day. We want to talk about our child. Mention his name. One of our biggest fears is that he will be forgotten and one of our biggest joys is to hear his name.

Understand that we are parents without the right number of children. Because of this we experience over and over again fear, anger, guilt, sorrow, loss of future, isolation, abandonment. These are not steps that we work through but feelings that will continue to return forever with various intensity and in different forms.

Keep in mind that there really is no "closure" to the grief for the loss of a child. How can there be? Such loss is against nature and against all that we understand in the passage from one generation to the next.

What you say to bereaved parents is less important than that you say something. Ignoring bereaved parents is only adding to the burden of grief. Simply asking "How are you doing?" can be very helpful. But do it often.

When bereaved parents return to the workplace, make sure that you stop by, even if it's just to say "hello." After the loss of a child, parents often feel as if they are starting all over. This "new life" is just in the infancy stage and a friendly word makes a difference.

Call bereaved parents just to let them know you are thinking about them. Don't be insulted if they do not call you. Grieving saps energy for a long time.

Never think that grieving parents are somehow "holding onto their grief. "There is no such thing. The loss of a child causes endless grief that becomes part of the bereaved parent's inner self forever.

Remember that grief is not a process that one goes through a step at a time. Grieving is a roller coaster ride, and it is circular. The first couple of years, we are numb. When the numbness goes away, we are shocked to see that the world has gone on without our child. When we come out of this numbness, we are different people with a new sense of what it is to be "normal."

When parents lose their child, their hearts are broken. A huge hole is left. This hole will never heal - only the jagged edges around the hole may heal with time. Our grief, not always in the same form and maybe not as intense, will be with us the rest of our lives.

It does not matter how a child died or whether he was one week old or sixty years old. Nor does it matter whether there are surviving children. There is something absolute about the loss of each and every individual child.

Certain times of year will trigger intense sadness. Birthdays, anniversaries of the death, holidays, Mother's and Father's Day, weddings and funerals are just some. We can never properly prepare ourselves for these days. A simple "I am thinking of you and I know this day must be hard" goes a long way with bereaved parents.

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Re: what to say to the family if you know them?
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2009, 11:24:38 PM »

I'd say I'm sorry for you lose, and the inability of so many people to spread gossip and make unfounded accusations against you!  I'm also sorry so many people are trying to relate to your loss for one reason or the other.
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Re: what to say to the family if you know them?
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2009, 04:43:43 PM »

What this place needed was ANOTHER neveah thread.
considering the title of this board is Nevaeh Buchanan, where else would you have liked it posted?

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Re: what to say to the family if you know them?
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2009, 06:09:49 PM »

I'm also sorry so many people are trying to relate to your loss for one reason or the other.

Anything to be negative I guess. And its hard not to relate in some way to the death of child, especially a murdered child. Unless your a robot or unless your a sociopath.

Thank you MommyofanAngel. I'm sure lots of people are at a loss of words in this type of a situation. I lost a child, as many on the Nevaeh board has, and I can honestly say that it helped me alot when people expressed their sorrow for my loss. And it hurt me that some chose to act as if it never happened, probably because they didn't know how to express themselves or thought it would renew the pain I felt, now that I look back on it.

Just a few personality features of a Sociopath:

Glibness and Superficial Charm
Grandiose Sense of Self
Need for Stimulation
Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Shallow Emotions

Just saying....
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Re: what to say to the family if you know them?
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2009, 07:10:29 PM »

If he didn't I do apologize...but I had a differing take on it...ah well :)
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Re: what to say to the family if you know them?
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2009, 07:25:07 PM »

If he didn't I do apologize...but I had a differing take on it...ah well :)
Yeah that was kinda how I took it too, it is easy to be on the attack of those who were slamming the family but they are a few of us who are sincere....

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Re: what to say to the family if you know them?
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2009, 12:35:03 PM »

That was sweet and thoughtful, Mommy. Thank you for the guidance. It is useful not only in this situation, but also in the unfortunate future ones as well. When dealing with grieving family members, I have always been at a loss as to what is taboo to talk about or not. It is nice to have some rules of thumb. I appreciate it.
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Re: what to say to the family if you know them?
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2009, 01:10:28 PM »

Things that would not be appropriate to say to the family include:

1. See what happens when you let your sex offender boyfriend around your children?

2. I guess letting your daughter watch her kid wasn't such a good idea was it?

3. Check out these stories on monroetalks.com

Can anybody think of some others?
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Re: what to say to the family if you know them?
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2009, 01:52:08 AM »

 I AGREE FRED. JB IS NOT LIKE OTHER MOTHERS THAT LOST KIDS.
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Re: what to say to the family if you know them?
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2009, 02:26:38 PM »

YES SANDYFL I LIKE TO TALK IN ALL CAPS TOO. ISNT THIS NICE?
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