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« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2007, 10:36:04 PM »

What the hell are you talking about?  That I am referring to black women?  Why are you bringing race into this?
Do you know what it is like living in the projects?  Are you aware that many people, black, white, men and women can get a college education with the help of federal grants?  You act as though you have been "down with the struggle".  I know the difference between poor and impoverished.  The point I was trying to make is this:  I was born and raised in Detroit, not St. Clair Shores.  My grandmother lived in a housing project called Herman Gardens.  I saw what happened in Herman Gardens.  My grandmother was beaten to a pulp by one of your so called impoverished people.  Get off your high horse.

Hey my family is from Warrendale and my cousin was the founder of the Justice Riders not far from the Gardens.

I knew some folks that lived in Herman Gardens by Tireman….But you’re closer to my cousins’ age so I doubt I knew you.

What in the world possessed you to become a Republican?
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« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2007, 10:49:46 PM »

So called impoverished people, that said all that needs to be said. My family threw me out on my *** because I would not confirm to their strict republican views. I married, had kids, divorced, and let me tell you, I was poor. I know what it is like to be poor.
Your statement proves exactly where you are coming from.
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« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2007, 11:01:13 PM »

FF:

For many years I was not a republican.  Far from it.  I was a card carrying liberal, attended many love ins, hung around Plum Street, was a Vietnam war protester, and loved Robert Kennedy.   I hung around Wayne State with the SDS (students for a democratic society)also loved JFK, hated Nixon, visited Ohio State after the shootings.  Hated cops.  Wanted to get involved with social justice issues.  I am not exactly happy with the republican party at this point in time.  In fact, for the first time in my life, I do not want to vote in 08.  It bothers me that I am getting apathetic. That is how disgusted I am with both republicans and dems. What jaded me is the destruction of my hometown. When I was a kid (before my grandfather died and my grandmother moved into Herman Gardens) I used to spend the night with grandma.  She lived off Chene Street dear the Eastern Market. She lived in fear of her neighbors.  I cannot begin to tell you how many times she was robbed, her house bombarded with beer bottles, etc.  My uncles took her away from that neighborhood and stuck her in Herman Gardens. Yikes, it was horrible. She finally came to live with my parents. Also, my brief involvement with social programs that did nothing but make people more dependent on the government, not independent, responsible, hardworking citizens.  That's it in a nutshell.  I changed a lot.

Now, were the Justice Riders a motorcyle club.  I remember the Highway Men and the Vigilantes.
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« Reply #33 on: October 25, 2007, 11:07:51 PM »

Sue Lee:

I am tired of you.  Just leave me alone.  And yes, my grandmother was beaten at the age of 80 by 3 black men while she was gathering dandelions.  She liked to fry them in olive oil.  She was an Italian.  My statement proves nothing.  You are implying I am a racist.  And, I was also poor after I got the boot from my family.  In fact, I was on ADC for a while, remember when it was called ADC?  So, you are not the only one with a sob story. 
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« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2007, 11:25:36 PM »

Yep, they were a well known MC club from the Herman Gardens area until my cousin had to visit the Marion Federal Pen
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« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2007, 11:31:07 PM »

The Vigilantes had a club house not far from where I lived, off Gratiot Ave.  They were some rough guys.  Too bad about your cousin.  Is Herman Gardens still standing?  It was the pits back in the day. 
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« Reply #36 on: October 25, 2007, 11:38:44 PM »

I haven’t returned in years and back then there were a lot of units that they razed.

I did drive around the ‘hood recently though and there’s graffiti everywhere and many houses in disrepair.

The powerlines have shoes dangling all over the place and the gangs pretty much have the run of the area.
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« Reply #37 on: October 25, 2007, 11:41:40 PM »

Sue Lee:

I am tired of you.  Just leave me alone.  And yes, my grandmother was beaten at the age of 80 by 3 black men while she was gathering dandelions.  She liked to fry them in olive oil.  She was an Italian.  My statement proves nothing.  You are implying I am a racist.  And, I was also poor after I got the boot from my family.  In fact, I was on ADC for a while, remember when it was called ADC?  So, you are not the only one with a sob story. 
Point Proven, and I will gladly leave you alone. Not all poor black people beat senior citizens.
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« Reply #38 on: October 27, 2007, 12:58:47 PM »

Communism is alive and well. Rome on the Potomac is irretrievably infested with commies who presume to dictate the conditions of your life.


Thanks AGAIN, ML!
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« Reply #39 on: October 29, 2007, 02:10:38 PM »

Liberal (socialist, communist) politicians are all about big government. Look what happened in the most recent budget crisis. Liberal Democrat politicians led by Jennifer Granholm raised taxes rather than downsizing government. Liberal politicians believe in big government uber alles.
Big government is the religion of liberal politicians and the liberal media.
In the Old Testament, God wanted his chosen people to set up a government with God as the only sovereign. The Jews kept begging God to give them a king. God finally relented and gave them a king. I believe that the founding fathers of this country gave us the kind of government that God wanted his chosen people to have. That is probably one of the reasons this country has been blessed with such great prosperity.
Judaism and Christianity fly in the face of Liberal politicians because these religions are based on freedom. To paraphrase the late Malachi Martin: God continually offers His Love but that offer is only meaningful is we are free to accept to accept or reject that Love.
As it turns out freedom works not only with regard to religion but also in economics and every other sphere of life.
Liberalism on the other hand is all about control. Liberal politicians want to control every aspect of the lives of the citizens of this country. They have learned that liberal economic policies cause poverty. Mises predicted that before any communist regimes were even in place. Many liberals have probably figured out that the only way a socialist or communist country can sustain itself without fear of being overthrown from within is if big government becomes the religion of the people. Then, the people would happily work as slaves of the government. Indoctrination is being carried out at every level of school today.
Why are liberals upset by displays of religion?
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« Reply #40 on: October 29, 2007, 04:58:50 PM »

....Judaism and Christianity fly in the face of Liberal politicians because these religions are based on freedom. To paraphrase the late Malachi Martin: God continually offers His Love but that offer is only meaningful is we are free to accept to accept or reject that Love.
As it turns out freedom works not only with regard to religion but also in economics and every other sphere of life.
Liberalism on the other hand is all about control. Liberal politicians want to control every aspect of the lives of the citizens of this country. They have learned that liberal economic policies cause poverty. Mises predicted that before any communist regimes were even in place. Many liberals have probably figured out that the only way a socialist or communist country can sustain itself without fear of being overthrown from within is if big government becomes the religion of the people. Then, the people would happily work as slaves of the government. Indoctrination is being carried out at every level of school today.
Why are liberals upset by displays of religion?

I have often wondered why Jews vote exclusively Liberal/Progressive/Democratic...or, LibProgCratic) when the Libs are for bigger Governement, Government control of almost all aspects of our lives, anti-small business, high taxes, wealth distribution et al.  The Jews have lived under governments like that for centuries and know what happens when a few control the many.  Why do they seem to long for more of the Socialist/Communist style government?

Odd ain't it?
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« Reply #41 on: October 29, 2007, 05:04:06 PM »

I have often wondered why Jews vote exclusively Liberal/Progressive/Democratic...or, LibProgCratic) when the Libs are for bigger Governement, Government control of almost all aspects of our lives, anti-small business, high taxes, wealth distribution et al.  The Jews have lived under governments like that for centuries and know what happens when a few control the many.  Why do they seem to long for more of the Socialist/Communist style government?

Odd ain't it?
how do you know who Jews vote for. I suspect they vote for indivdual's based on their merit, as I do. Democrats in America are a far cry from socialists and communists, we have those people in America and that is what they are called, socialists and communists.
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« Reply #42 on: October 29, 2007, 05:10:03 PM »

how do you know who Jews vote for. I suspect they vote for indivdual's based on their merit, as I do. Democrats in America are a far cry from socialists and communists, we have those people in America and that is what they are called, socialists and communists.


When you read the Democrat Party Platform it is hard to tell them apart.

The Republicans just plain ignore their platform. I guess hoping nobody is watching.
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« Reply #43 on: October 29, 2007, 05:11:57 PM »

how do you know who Jews vote for. I suspect they vote for indivdual's based on their merit, as I do. Democrats in America are a far cry from socialists and communists, we have those people in America and that is what they are called, socialists and communists.


The same way I know that Blacks vote Democratic.  Where have you been?  The government being proposed by Rangle/Clinton/Edwards et al is clearly Socialist/Communist. Democrat leaders in America are lenin's children
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« Reply #44 on: October 29, 2007, 05:14:35 PM »

The same way I know that Blacks vote Democratic.  Where have you been?  The government being proposed by Rangle/Clinton/Edwards et al is clearly Socialist/Communist. Democrat leaders in America are lenin's children

Must make some Republicans nieces and nephews????
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