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Re: "Obama and the Decline of White America
« Reply #30 on: November 22, 2009, 10:16:48 PM »

. . . and why do the loonie-lefties hate the fact that God made whites so much more mentally-and-culturally-privileged than the rest of the planet combined?  It drives 'em bonkers.  The stupid fools.
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Re: "Obama and the Decline of White America
« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2009, 10:31:05 PM »

. . . and why do the loonie-lefties hate the fact that God made whites so much more mentally-and-culturally-privileged than the rest of the planet combined?  It drives 'em bonkers.  The stupid fools.

China called, their 5000 years of unbroken civilization begs to differ.

Read: Guns, Germs, and Steel by Jared Diamond. It thoroughly debunks your "Aryan Uber Alles" claims.
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Re: "Obama and the Decline of White America
« Reply #32 on: November 23, 2009, 10:50:41 AM »

. . . and why do the loonie-lefties hate the fact that God made whites so much more mentally-and-culturally-privileged than the rest of the planet combined?  It drives 'em bonkers.  The stupid fools.

I read your posts and see no evidence to support your claim on either a mentality basis nor a cultural basis.
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Re: "Obama and the Decline of White America
« Reply #33 on: November 24, 2009, 08:52:08 AM »

The following was pasted from the homeland security website link that I posted earlier.(U) Key Findings
(U//LES) The DHS/Office of Intelligence and Analysis (I&A) has no specific
information that domestic rightwing* terrorists are currently planning acts of violence,
but rightwing extremists may be gaining new recruits by playing on their fears about
several emergent issues. The economic downturn and the election of the first
African American president present unique drivers for rightwing radicalization and
recruitment.
— (U//LES) Threats from white supremacist and violent antigovernment groups
during 2009 have been largely rhetorical and have not indicated plans to carry
out violent acts. Nevertheless, the consequences of a prolonged economic
downturn—including real estate foreclosures, unemployment, and an inability
to obtain credit—could create a fertile recruiting environment for rightwing
extremists and even result in confrontations between such groups and
government authorities similar to those in the past.
— (U//LES) Rightwing extremists have capitalized on the election of the first
African American president, and are focusing their efforts to recruit new
members, mobilize existing supporters, and broaden their scope and appeal
through propaganda, but they have not yet turned to attack planning.
(U//FOUO) The current economic and political climate has some similarities to the
1990s when rightwing extremism experienced a resurgence fueled largely by an
economic recession, criticism about the outsourcing of jobs, and the perceived threat to
U.S. power and sovereignty by other foreign powers.
— (U//FOUO) During the 1990s, these issues contributed to the growth in the
number of domestic rightwing terrorist and extremist groups and an increase in
violent acts targeting government facilities, law enforcement officers, banks,
and infrastructure sectors.
— (U//FOUO) Growth of these groups subsided in reaction to increased
government scrutiny as a result of the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing and
disrupted plots, improvements in the economy, and the continued U.S. standing
as the preeminent world power.
(U//FOUO) The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms and the return of
military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities
could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists
capable of carrying out violent attacks.
* (U) Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and
adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups),
and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or
rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a
single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration.  RING ANY BELLS PAX
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Re: "Obama and the Decline of White America
« Reply #34 on: November 24, 2009, 12:06:33 PM »

Study: Political Bent Affects How We View Skin Tone
November 23, 2009

A new study suggests that people's political views may affect how they perceive President Obama's skin tone, with liberals tending to "lighten" his skin and conservatives tending to "darken" it.

"Our beliefs, you know, in this case our political beliefs, can really have pretty profound effects on how we see the world," says Eugene Caruso, a researcher at the University of Chicago's Booth School of Business. "Our data suggest that people's beliefs affect how light or dark they perceive someone to be."

These are three of the 16 images researchers showed to college students when they asked them to pick which ones were most representative of the president.

Caruso has long been interested in how people's social perspectives can affect they way they view things like facts and figures. He recently decided to see how people's political beliefs might also change how they perceive the skin tone of a biracial political candidate.

Testing Perceptions

He and his colleagues took different photos of then-candidate Obama and digitally manipulated them to alter just the areas of exposed skin. "So we sort of isolated the head and the hands of Obama and altered the skin tone to make it relatively lighter in tone or relatively darker in tone," Caruso says.

The research team then showed the altered photos, plus the unaltered ones, one at a time to undergraduate students and asked them to rate the photos in terms of how representative they thought each photo was of the candidate. They researchers also questioned the students about their political views.

Liberal participants were most likely to rate a lightened photo of Obama as being most representative of him, while conservatives were most likely to say that about a photo that had been darkened, according to their findings published in a report in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

Perceived Lightness Tied To Votes

What's more, the researchers found that the degree to which someone saw a lightened photo as being representative of Obama was related to whether he voted for him a week later.

That was true even after the researchers controlled for political views and measures of bias against blacks, says Caruso. "Assuming that people had equal levels of political conservativism," he says, "the extent to which you rated the lightened photos as more representative was, over and above your ideology, also predictive of your voting intentions and your voting behavior."

The researchers also showed students digitally lightened and darkened photos of John McCain but did not find that political affiliation affected people's ratings of the photos.

The study's result "goes along with sort of these cultural ideas that we have about things that are light versus things that are dark as being either good or bad, positive or negative," says Keith Maddox, a psychology researcher at Tufts University who has studied how people perceive skin tone.

He says whether or not you agree with someone's political views apparently "can sort of change the way you perceive them, in a real physical sense."

He says it would be interesting to do a similar study with a conservative biracial candidate, to see if liberals would then "darken" the candidate and conservatives would "lighten" that same person.

Judging Unknown Candidates By Skin Color, Too

Caruso also says he recently has been looking to see if skin tone can affect people's level of support for a novel biracial candidate when people's political affiliation with that candidate is ambiguous.

In one new study, his team used altered photos of a person described in the experiment as a candidate for a position with the Department of Education. People were shown either a darkened, lightened or unaltered photo of the fake candidate and then asked a few questions about their views on various issues facing the department.

All participants were told that the candidate agreed with them on half of the issues. But when asked if that candidate would get their support, says Caruso, "lo and behold, those who saw a photo with darkened skin accompanying the candidate's biography just a few minutes earlier reported that they were less likely to vote for this candidate."
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120691088&ps=cprs
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Re: "Obama and the Decline of White America
« Reply #35 on: November 24, 2009, 07:06:30 PM »

That tree-hugging thing said white people are privileged.  I assumed he meant innately, although one can never tell from his copy/paste jobs ala FF.  If he's trying to get a rise out of the rest of us he's certainly doing an extraordinary job of insulting a whole lot of his countrymen.
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Re: "Obama and the Decline of White America
« Reply #36 on: November 24, 2009, 08:55:26 PM »

Why does our Homeland Security place a political bend on extremeists?

Does the Department of Homeland Security under a Democrat President think that there are no longer any leftwing extereists?  Not everyone who isn't lockstep with the President is an extremeist, but his DHS would have you think so!
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Re: "Obama and the Decline of White America
« Reply #37 on: November 24, 2009, 09:29:28 PM »

Why does our Homeland Security place a political bend on extremeists?

Does the Department of Homeland Security under a Democrat President think that there are no longer any leftwing extereists?  Not everyone who isn't lockstep with the President is an extremeist, but his DHS would have you think so!
Please.....99.999% of the time it's a right-winger that goes off the deep end and does something stupid.

That report was spot-on.
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Edited to add:

This is the only way to answer some of the questions posed:

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2) It's the router that's blocked but considering all the nonsense right-wing games being played by those running the site...it's just not worth it to bypass the banishment block.

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Re: "Obama and the Decline of White America
« Reply #38 on: November 25, 2009, 08:18:55 PM »

Pax, Who would you consider a fellow countryman of mine? Exactly what was the insult?
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Re: "Obama and the Decline of White America
« Reply #39 on: November 25, 2009, 08:31:27 PM »

What?!

You mean to tell me that Barack Obama is a black man?
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Re: "Obama and the Decline of White America
« Reply #40 on: November 25, 2009, 08:58:37 PM »

Barak won't get the white guilt vote he did next time. It will
be on the ultra liberal issues he masked during the campaign.
He's going down.
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Re: "Obama and the Decline of White America
« Reply #41 on: November 25, 2009, 09:05:55 PM »

Barak won't get the white guilt vote he did next time. It will
be on the ultra liberal issues he masked during the campaign.
He's going down.

Not if he's running against Palin.
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Re: "Obama and the Decline of White America
« Reply #42 on: November 25, 2009, 09:39:21 PM »

An awful lot of things would have to change between then and now if Palin was to beat Obama.  Of course the democrats probably won't have ACORN out digging up millions of votes either.  So look for the democrats to fight hard to get federal funds flowing again for ACORN.  They will be in trouble with their tactics
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Re: "Obama and the Decline of White America
« Reply #43 on: November 25, 2009, 11:16:16 PM »

     If you're a registered "voter" you're a little mini-sub-unit corporation of your corporate state, which is a sub-unit of the corporate US.  If any of those persons (the legalese-versions) think they stand a snowball's chance in hell of altering either of the two greater corporate entities they'd be incredibly surprised to find out they can't.  It doesn't matter who "runs against" the Obamessiah next go-round, the choices will still be frick v. frack.  Pick your poison. 
     Or, contrarily, we could really change things up with a little "extremism," as the propaganda news sources rant about, ad nauseum.  You see they're deathly afraid of us "little people" actually shaking up their game.  Or clueing other people into their game.  Or refusing to play their game.  So they must, as if their political lives depended on it, vilify any and all dissenting voices, like the tree-hugging-thingy attempts to do.  Well I, for one, dissent.  Vehemently.  When every major propaganda machine demonizes "white men" but gives free passes to every other possible combination of ethnicities and sexes to spew whatever hatred their wee minds can come up with there will, sooner rather than later, be a backlash.  So why continue such a losing game?  Why continue to malign those who won't, and don't have to, tolerate it?  If vituperation is your only weapon why bother?  Barry Soe...I mean Obama...is just a bigger pawn than the thousands of others bringing our world crashing down on our heads.  Still the little sheeple refuse to acknowledge it and yet there are those who would still put the blame for whatever they feel ails them where it least applies. 
« Last Edit: November 25, 2009, 11:19:19 PM by Pax Gothorum »
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Re: "Obama and the Decline of White America
« Reply #44 on: November 26, 2009, 12:33:23 AM »

An awful lot of things would have to change between then and now if Palin was to beat Obama.  Of course the democrats probably won't have ACORN out digging up millions of votes either.  So look for the democrats to fight hard to get federal funds flowing again for ACORN.  They will be in trouble with their tactics

ACORN personally stuffed the ballots in Monroe County, I done seen it with my own two eyes.
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