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« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2007, 06:58:18 PM »

Ja mein F├╝hrer...!

If you consider me to be Hitler-esque for wanting to exterminate anyone that exploits or harms children then yes I will accept that label...

Aren't there some trees that need hugging?
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« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2007, 02:54:37 PM »

How can God hate if he's all-loving?
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« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2007, 10:12:34 AM »


According to your philosophy isn't "loving" relative?

If you have questions search the Word...if it is for you to understand you will...if not..you won't.

So you don't know, then?
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« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2007, 10:59:22 AM »

How can God hate if he's all-loving?


When someone speaks of God being All Loving they are telling only half the story. God is all loving to mankind, however he despises the things that we do that are contrary to His Word. It is the same as any parent with their children. If our children do wrong we continue to love them and give them an opportunity to make things right. This is the same thing God does with us. Does he hate the sinfull things that we do? YES, however he provided a way for our forgiveness through His son Jesus. It is through Jesus that one is able to turn away from their sin, and be guided by the Holy Spirit to live a holy life acceptable to God.
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« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2007, 11:16:16 AM »

How can God hate if he's all-loving?

God loves every person. God hates evil.
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« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2007, 11:35:08 AM »

God loves every person. God hates evil.


What about evil people?
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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2007, 11:38:08 AM »

When someone speaks of God being All Loving they are telling only half the story. God is all loving to mankind, however he despises the things that we do that are contrary to His Word. It is the same as any parent with their children. If our children do wrong we continue to love them and give them an opportunity to make things right. This is the same thing God does with us. Does he hate the sinfull things that we do? YES, however he provided a way for our forgiveness through His son Jesus. It is through Jesus that one is able to turn away from their sin, and be guided by the Holy Spirit to live a holy life acceptable to God.

Good response, CF.  It's very difficult for some to understand this concept.  It helps after you've had children, to know the feeling of unconditional love for someone else.  You'd forgive about anything in the hopes they will eventually be guided in the right direction.
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Re: I dont Understand it but it sure feels nice!
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2007, 11:54:59 AM »

What about evil people?


As I stated before my friend, it is not the people that God hates it is the things that they do. This was the purpose of Jesus. God is a holy and perfect God who hates sin, yet Loves His creation so much that He provided us a way to turn away from our wickedness and come back into His holy presence.
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« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2007, 12:03:27 PM »

God is a holy and perfect God who hates sin...

Who or what created sin?
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« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2007, 12:26:42 PM »

Who or what created sin?

We must look at this very closely. God did not create sin. He created man and angels with the right to choose not robots. Sin was originated from the pride of an angel named Lucifer who is now reffered to as the devil. This account is commonly called the 5 I will's of Satan. You can find this in Isaiah 14:12-14 "12) How art thou fallen from heaven O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, who didst weken the nations! 13) for thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north, 14) I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the most high.

As we can see Lucifer was trying to make himself out to be God, or exalt himself Above God. This is the same thing the world is doing today by putting it's needs and desires before the will of God.
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« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2007, 12:45:37 PM »

What a crock.
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« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2007, 01:18:26 PM »

...I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north, 14) I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the most high.

Sounds like Lucifer wanted to be an astronaut, not the ruler of the nether world.
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« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2007, 05:34:10 PM »

What about evil people?

Love the person, hate the sin.
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« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2007, 05:39:22 PM »

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« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2007, 06:23:02 PM »

We must look at this very closely. God did not create sin. He created man and angels ......Sin was originated from the pride of an angel named Lucifer......

So....he created sin indirectly.  On accident, or for purpose?
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