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[PXaiver]

I appreciate your answer Misty but does someone having an abortion directly effect you?  if so how? 

[Misty2000]

I appreciate your answer Misty but does someone having an abortion directly effect you?  if so how?

Well, Shaggy, thank you for understanding my position.  I personally think abortion is murder, and that is a personal opinion of mine.  BTW I am NOT a religious person.

I guess someone having an abortion doesn't affect me.  Neither does Fidel Castro and the treatment of his citizens.  Drug dealers in New York selling their coke and heroin doesn't affect me either.

What South Africa did to its citizens didn't affect me.  Hitler executing Jews did not affect me.  The idiot who tried to blow up a plane over Detroit did not affect me.  Michael Vick killing dogs did not affect me.  The people beating seals to death don't affect me.

People "hunting" for the sake of hunting and not using the kill for food does not affect me.  The radical army guy who shot people at the army base did not affect me.  Other people who abuse their kids does not affect me.  Husbands who beat their wives do not affect me.

Actually there are a lot of things that don't affect me.  But I still consider them immoral and wrong.

[PXaiver]

Misty I appreciate that answer and I understand.  I feel the same way on a lot, if not all, the issues you presented.  I have, unfortunately, been in a position where I didn't have a choice.  it really sucks and I don't want anyone to go through that.  Like I said, just because you're pro choice it doesn't mean you're pro abortion.

[Misty2000]

.................... Like I said, just because you're pro choice it doesn't mean you're pro abortion.

If more people would be honest about the abortion issue the world would be a better place.  The women's health argument is very weak.  And even those who preach it know that it is a false premise.  Most (almost all) abortions are because of convenience, not the woman's health.

[PXaiver]

I don't agree with abortion as a form of contraception.  I don't agree with abortion in general.  I just feel that its not my right to choose what a woman does with her body.  All I can say is that you never forget and you don't want to ever go through it.

[Pax]

     I've read quite a few poignant articles on the Pravda website of late, but that bastion of marxist ideology under the commies appears to have shaken off its role as the Soviet Ministry of Propaganda mouthpiece.  Surprising?  No.  Because it's owned by Russians, not globalists, and concerns itself with what is good for Russians not for what is good for internationalists.  Totally unlike our mainstream media.  The elites who own our media outlets are destroying our Americanisms, insulting them, degrading them, confusing them: and all the while continuing to deplore and demonize those few places in the western world that aren't in their iron-fisted grip.

     There are mouthpieces here on the forum and in the establishment MSM who continuously muddle the definitions of terminology to such an extent that they are useless verbiage spewn about to confuse rather than clarify.  My observations in other threads that, to too many people, anything to the right of chairman Mao is RightWingExtremism!! seems to be most apt in that regard.  A LeftWingLibertarian is as oxymoronic as a RightWingDictator in the real world: it can only follow then that those who would utilize such terminology aren't living in the real world.  The same thing goes for those who assume (incorrectly, of course) that the terms Neo-Con and Conservatives are interchangeable.  That both contain the three letters C, O & N in no way implies there are any ideological confluences, but too many humans merely ape what the talking heads have told them and that's that.  The poor dears.

     The hypocrisy of the Neo-Cons apparently evades most Americans - especially those self-described "conservatives."  The lefties rant-and-rave about Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity and all the others: but for all the wrong reasons.  Those loudmouths are typically coming to the same leftie/globalist-approved conclusions on whatever the important topics might be and merely justify them with conservative-sounding words.  But none of the above can aptly be described as "conservatives, and this (four page) Pravda article does a fine job of explaining why:
The US 'Conservative' Hypocrites <- link
     Oh, but if the TeaPartiers had such substance!

[Pax]

I think I'll pop into the conservative caucus meeting this morning at China Buffet for some green tea and conversation: no kilts allowed anymore, though, Kopke said so 

[Noki49]

I think I'll pop into the conservative caucus meeting this morning at China Buffet for some green tea and conversation: no kilts allowed anymore, though, Kopke said so 

So, I take it you didn't storm the meeting in a kilt with a little 'Johny Cope' on the bag pipes?

Shame. 

[Pax]

No storming, and no bag-pipes, Noki.  T'was a shame though - those Chinese girls got quite a kick out of the kilt last time 

    On a more serious note - I'm putting this posting here for the simple reason that, all too often, even TeaPartier types get things a little wrong.  While millions of "Americans" keep wondering How is the government getting away with this? when they see or hear of blatantly UNconstitutional rules, regulations, or even "laws," the answer is so simple it evades them: the constitutional American republic does not exist anymore. 

     Here's an article calling for the arrests of members of SCOTUS for, get this: treason.  If, and only if, the American republic was currently operational damn near every member of our state and "national" governments would, indeed, be guilty of treason against it - but it's not.  None of them, from the local donut-munchin' Po-leese all the way up to whoever the hell's occupying the WhiteHouse are not bound by that *@&$)( piece of paper! as Dubya so politely intoned.  All the handwringing and anger are being vented in all the wrong ways - calling for impeachments and spewing accusations of treason will get nobody anywhere, and will not change a single thing until the realization that we've all been lied to, consistently and persistently, for 100 years or more.
Call for Immediate Arrest of 5 Supreme Court Justices for Treason<- link

For years we complained about AIPAC, the Sierra Club, the NRA, trial lawyers, trade unions, NAM (National Association of Manufacturers) and the churches that got involved in politics.  Behind all of these were people, American citizens, and, on some occasions, Americans who fought for their country, raised kids here and were invested in the survival of America although they didn’t always act that way.  This was an American problem.  Now we aren’t even sure we have an America anymore.

     Aha!  Maybe we're getting somewhere!  We're "not sure" there's even an America anymore because there isn't!  The Matrix revisited?  It appears so. Neither Blue Pills nor Red Pills will solve this particular dilemma, however.

[Baby Hitler]

Good Article Pax.

Here's an excerpt that I think needs to be restated from it.

When faced with a real threat, no people on earth are to be feared like Americans.  When help is needed, no people on earth are to be trusted and relied on like Americans.  This is the pride we have in our country and ourselves.  We never agree on anything.  We aren’t supposed to, we are Americans.

[Pax]

Just the title of this one reminded me of several MEN forum posters: FF, LF, BunnyBrains, Chicken****, et al., and the contents of the article confirmed why.

Distracted by Stupidity <- link

. . .it is abundantly clear (except to stupid people) that a majority of voters in 2008 elected a fool to be President of the United States of America and the presumed "leader of the free world." Do not ask the presidents of France or Russia, or the Prime Minister of England for their opinions of him. For that matter, don't ask former President Bill Clinton, who's still waiting for his cup of coffee.

I about peed my pants when I saw that about 'ole Bill still waiting for Barry to bring him a cup o'joe, though.  How could one not read an article like that?!! 

One of Obama's first official acts was to dispatch Air Force One to do a low fly-by of New York City for a photo. For some reason, that scared the hell out of New Yorkers.

[Yep, there's a wet spot down there now!!   ]

Putting an idiot like Janet Napolitano in charge of Homeland Security aptly fits the description of stupid, but a close look at the monkey cage of loonies attached to the Oval Office reveals more social misfits than you could find in a Beverly Hills rehabilitation center.

Gaffes aimed at Hollyweird are highly encouraged!

It's up to the people with common sense and good judgment to take charge of this nation through participation in all manner of civic and political organizations, through a constant deluge of Congress to stop Obamacare, immigration "reform" (how I hate that word!), and the strangling of the free market economy that has enriched those willing to actually hold a job and lucky enough to have one.

"Common Sense and Good Judgement" is what the Tea Parties are all about.

[Pax]

I really like this guy: could somebody invite him to the next Monroe TeaParty, please?!!

Moral indictment filed against Columbia University in quest for Obama’s records <-link

Dr. James David Manning, founder and pastor of ATLAH World Ministries in Harlem and outspoken Obama critic, contends that Barack Hussein Obama never attended Columbia University as he claims, that Columbia “sold” Obama a degree in Political Science, and that these allegations will be proven in a court of law in New York State.

[Baby Hitler]

Just the title of this one reminded me of several MEN forum posters: FF, LF, BunnyBrains, Chicken****, et al.,

Yeah, I do feel pretty stupid for agreeing with you the post before this one here.

But even a blind squirrel such as yourself finds a nut every once in a while.

[Pax]

I do feel pretty stupid. . .

You should dear, you should. 

[Baby Hitler]

You should dear, you should. 

Enjoy your nut oh squirrelly one . LOL