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« Reply #1125 on: October 02, 2019, 12:14:30 PM »

Sadly I wasn't under the impression that the roof decision was about saving money.

I think it was all about getting the "look" that they wanted. 

Just like the fancy doors that will be difficult to maintain was about getting a "look."  I bet you those doors get replaced with traditional overhead doors within 10 years for a "cost savings" on future repairs.

I distinctly remember one councilmember who actually lives in Petoskey mentioning that he didn't want a building that looked like it belonged in the township.

I'm not sure about the doors -  I will look at the mechanism and see how they are built...  I do know the overhead doors were always in need of repairs after a period of time as the weight and the tensioned springs used would not hold up more than a few years...   

They open quicker and are less susceptible to damage was how it was sold.
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« Reply #1126 on: October 02, 2019, 02:55:42 PM »

I'm not sure about the doors -  I will look at the mechanism and see how they are built...  I do know the overhead doors were always in need of repairs after a period of time as the weight and the tensioned springs used would not hold up more than a few years...   

They open quicker and are less susceptible to damage was how it was sold.

The doors they went with I believe fold open like a closet door?  Or they hinge from the side?

The paper said the benefit was they opened much quicker - something I can understand would be important, but they were more difficult to maintain, and reliability seemed questionable.

I seem to remember the "appearance" of them somehow being superior in someones viewpoint.
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« Reply #1127 on: October 02, 2019, 05:40:20 PM »

There is a different opener which is contained in a box at one end of the rod across the header of the door.  No springs across the header or parallel with the track
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« Reply #1128 on: October 02, 2019, 05:47:30 PM »

There is a different opener which is contained in a box at one end of the rod across the header of the door.  No springs across the header or parallel with the track

I have a few shaft drive openers on my overhead doors.  Easier to put in by far - but you still have the spring to deal with.

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« Reply #1129 on: October 02, 2019, 07:01:18 PM »

Spring is in the box isn’t it.  Adjust it by using power drill?
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« Reply #1130 on: October 02, 2019, 07:38:20 PM »

Spring is in the box isn’t it.  Adjust it by using power drill?

No - the normal coil spring on the shaft.

I still watch those guys load those - and it just doesn't seem that scary to me - as long as you take your time and think about what you are doing.

Every guy I know who does it for a living has had multiple stitches - and they say don't trust it.
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« Reply #1131 on: October 03, 2019, 09:55:31 AM »

I'll have to take another look at the door on my buddies pole barn.  There is a box at the top.  I don't recall seeing springs anywhere
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« Reply #1132 on: October 03, 2019, 10:32:15 PM »

I call that the 'duba-duba-duba spring.  That rod you stick in there, if it gets away from you, will sucker punch you more times that you can imagine in a couple seconds if you aren't real careful.

All my doors are manual lift except the big double door on the shop garage.  The 15 foot high x 10 foot wide roll up door on the hay barn is chain operated and it has a spring in it that looks like a coiled pretzel.

I hate fooling with overhead doors.  Good way to wind up in ER with no front teeth or a broken jaw.
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« Reply #1133 on: October 08, 2019, 03:02:09 PM »

I recall on several occasions when the large spring "broke free"...   the noise and the inability to open a large door to get out is a real problem in an emergency...    we used to have one spare on hand as they were special order from the size...   or they would scavange one off of a less used door...   and yes the tension on them is great and not a job I would ever want to do! 

Still haven't visited the new station -  I plan to this week
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« Reply #1134 on: October 08, 2019, 03:24:32 PM »

All of you big, strong, firemen couldn't lift it up and put a 2 by 4 under it?
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« Reply #1135 on: October 09, 2019, 03:50:43 PM »

The amish furniture place on S. Monroe Street is "going out of business" AGAIN.    8* 8* 8*
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« Reply #1136 on: October 12, 2019, 08:51:09 AM »

All of you big, strong, firemen couldn't lift it up and put a 2 by 4 under it?

We improvised on more than one occasion -   having to use pike poles to get it past that weight balance... 

Our response time wasn't very good however...     

You probably could calculate the weight of the door -  remember they are not your garage door height and they were insulated panels that often held water! 
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Marion Berry

But we have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.
Nancy Pelosi
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