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Baby Hitler

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Re: Citizens United puts US on path to fascism
« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2012, 08:34:46 PM »

I see FF can't refute anything I posted.
If he's smart, he's probably got you blocked.
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Re: Citizens United puts US on path to fascism
« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2012, 09:08:22 PM »

If he's smart, he's probably got you blocked.
Either that or he just can't refute what I wrote and posted. Corporate personhood has existed long before the Citizens United ruling, this is absolutely nothing knew, and I am shocked that all you 'smart' liberals are just starting to make a big deal out of it since the ruling.
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« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2012, 10:16:13 PM »

Either that or he just can't refute what I wrote and posted. Corporate personhood has existed long before the Citizens United ruling, this is absolutely nothing knew, and I am shocked that all you 'smart' liberals are just starting to make a big deal out of it since the ruling.
We're pissed because of what has happened since the ruling. If you had an iota of intelligence you'd have figured that out by now.
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« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2012, 11:19:07 PM »

We're pissed because of what has happened since the ruling. If you had an iota of intelligence you'd have figured that out by now.

Well FB, case could be made that all stockholders are not in agreement with where a corp. decides to direct their campaign contributions. Then again, couldn't the same case made against
Unions?
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« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2012, 11:27:52 PM »

Well FB, case could be made that all stockholders are not in agreement with where a corp. decides to direct their campaign contributions. Then again, couldn't the same case made against
Unions?
It's gone far beyond that John. Super PAC's are pretty much being formed by the candidates "friends". Legally they aren't supposed to co-ordinate with them, but the law is pretty lax about that, and it's pretty much a nod nod wink wink, kinda deal.
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« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2012, 11:42:47 PM »

It's gone far beyond that John. Super PAC's are pretty much being formed by the candidates "friends". Legally they aren't supposed to co-ordinate with them, but the law is pretty lax about that, and it's pretty much a nod nod wink wink, kinda deal.

And yet we hear  about Obama raising a billion for his re-election campaign. Thank goodness he doesn't let governing get in the way of his fundraising. Same guy that blew off his "promise" to use public financing in the last election. Spare me the sanctimony.
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« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2012, 11:50:25 PM »

And yet we hear  about Obama raising a billion for his re-election campaign. Thank goodness he doesn't let governing get in the way of his fundraising. Same guy that blew off his "promise" to use public financing in the last election. Spare me the sanctimony.
Did you see where I said it was good for one side and not the other? No you didn't.

I want ALL the Super PACs GONE. Get it? NO? I didn't think so. 8*
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« Reply #37 on: January 22, 2012, 12:02:52 AM »

Well you don't have a problem with unions directing their donations to Dems while PAC's are both Republican and Dem. You also blew past Obama blowing off his public financing promise in the last election and the fact he is constantly attending $ 38K a plate fundraisers with the rich he proclaims are evil.  You are upset because these pac's might somewhat level the playing field. 
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« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2012, 12:05:10 AM »

Well you don't have a problem with unions directing their donations to Dems
Really? I don't? Better check your facts there bub. I said I don't want ANY Super PACs and I meant it.

None, zero, zilch... and I STILL don't think you get it.

Don't want Obama to have them, don't want ANYONE to have them. and I think you STILL won't get it.
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« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2012, 12:12:35 AM »

Really? I don't? Better check your facts there bub. I said I don't want ANY Super PACs and I meant it.

None, zero, zilch... and I STILL don't think you get it.

Don't want Obama to have them, don't want ANYONE to have them. and I think you STILL won't get it.

OK, and Unions can't use dues for politics?
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« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2012, 12:15:06 AM »

OK, and Unions can't use dues for politics?
I don't think they should be able to. No.

Not anymore than churches can.
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« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2012, 12:22:39 AM »

I don't think they should be able to. No.

Not anymore than churches can.

And what about our Mr. Class Warfare President attending $ 38K per plate fundraisers. Are these folks evil when they trod on the poor and the middle class, but rightgeous when they give money to his campaign?
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« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2012, 12:30:38 AM »

And what about our Mr. Class Warfare President attending $ 38K per plate fundraisers. Are these folks evil when they trod on the poor and the middle class, but rightgeous when they give money to his campaign?
First, do you have proof that the people attending these fundraisers are trodding on the poor and middle class?

Second, I think that the money in politics, where ever it is coming from, is becoming has become grossly outrageous, and I think that something should be done to reign it in.

ON BOTH SIDES!!!!
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« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2012, 12:42:29 AM »

First, do you have proof that the people attending these fundraisers are trodding on the poor and middle class?
ON BOTH SIDES!!!!

Look up sarcasm FB. It is Obama, and you, telling us the rich are evil, not me. Are some rich people virtuous, and other not so much?Is paying $ 38K a plate for Obama's campaign the dividing line?
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Re: Citizens United puts US on path to fascism
« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2012, 03:00:07 AM »

We're pissed because of what has happened since the ruling. If you had an iota of intelligence you'd have figured that out by now.
Personal attack.

I guarantee I have more knowledge about finance, accounting, and economics than you do. If you disagree, then put your money where your mouth is, and how about we make a bet about it.
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