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Re: FDA Says: Drinking This Natural Food is a Crime
« Reply #75 on: October 03, 2011, 03:24:42 PM »

The ‘Lemon Tree Lady’ Speaks Out About USDA Threats Over TREE

When life hands you a lemon tree, the USDA takes it away! And don’t even think of making lemonade with any more trees – they’ll take those too.
 
A special HFA interview with Bridget Donovan, aka “The Lemon Tree Lady,” USDA’s Most Wanted. Or rather, her little beloved lemon tree was. Last week, we reported the story of the USDA demanding her tree three years after a quarantine, but the real USDA mode of operation is in the details below - we can’t make this stuff up!
 
Did you know she was facing fines up to $60,000 and a federal raid if she did not comply? (Remember the USDA’s $4 million dollar bunnies?) They invaded her privacy, tracked her down through her purchases, and sternly warned they would get that tree one way or another. It appears she is on a “citrus watch list.”

http://healthfreedoms.org/2011/09/24/the-lemon-tree-lady-speaks-out-about-usda-threats-over-tree/
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« Reply #76 on: October 05, 2011, 11:43:05 PM »

If lemon trees have a disease that is anything like the Emerald Ash Borer, I can see why they want it so bad. The EAB sure wiped out the Ash trees around here in a hurry. In the 60's Dutch Elm disease wiped out all the Elm trees. A few more diseases or bugs like these and there won't be any trees left.
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« Reply #77 on: October 06, 2011, 12:05:49 AM »

If lemon trees have a disease that is anything like the Emerald Ash Borer, I can see why they want it so bad. The EAB sure wiped out the Ash trees around here in a hurry. In the 60's Dutch Elm disease wiped out all the Elm trees. A few more diseases or bugs like these and there won't be any trees left.
That is exactly the case.  Smash is really good at giving whacked out one sided conspiracy stories, but when you check it is always something much different than portrayed.

In this case the tree was taken and the nursery that sold her the tree admitted their own error of giving her a potentially diseased tree and shipped her a new one that was healthy at no cost to her.

Same with the one about the dairy recently.  If you read the actual judges order it is clear that the meaning is far different than the selected repost.  In fact they were a big production dairy farm which DID make them MORE culpable to the law of not distributing raw milk. 
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« Reply #78 on: October 14, 2011, 04:11:47 PM »

That is exactly the case.  Smash is really good at giving whacked out one sided conspiracy stories, but when you check it is always something much different than portrayed.

In this case the tree was taken and the nursery that sold her the tree admitted their own error of giving her a potentially diseased tree and shipped her a new one that was healthy at no cost to her.

Same with the one about the dairy recently.  If you read the actual judges order it is clear that the meaning is far different than the selected repost.  In fact they were a big production dairy farm which DID make them MORE culpable to the law of not distributing raw milk. 

whacked out one sided conspiracy stories, but when you check it is always something much different than portrayed.

Really, is that because Bill Maher, Colbert, or the Ministry of Propaganda didn't report them?

Let's see, doesn't conspiracy indicate or require some form of secrecy?
Yep, I think it does!

Well there is no secrecy in these two stories at all.
It's the government in action. Doing what they do every day.
Why don't we take them one at a time?

The USDA 3 years after the purchase of some stupid mail order lemon tree threatens to fine and jail the women who bought it.
Where is the conspiracy?

Did the government use intimidation, threats of force and violence, imprisonment, and threats of forfeiture and fines of up to 60 freaking thousand dollars?

Yep.

Secret?

Nope.

Have you read her statements? Here is a review.

What did your family and friends think of it? What did they say when you thought you might push harder to keep your tree?
 
My family and friends were quite shocked. I have heard from quite a number of people who read the article, and it amazes me how afraid people are – they think the government is reading our e-mails, listening to our calls, etc. It is a shame in the land of the free that people have to feel this way.
 
What would you say to those who stand by the USDA’s heavy actions in the name of environmental safety?
 
And to those who think it’s not a big deal, I ask them how they will feel when the government decides to seize something they own and value.
 
Would you do anything differently if it happened again?
 
I don’t know what what I would do it if I had to do it over again. I would like to think I would push it and demand a warrant as is my right, but I knew the tree was going one way or the other. I pushed and questioned it as best as I did, but in the end, these people, paid with our tax dollars, treated me like a common criminal.
http://healthfreedoms.org/2011/09/24/the-lemon-tree-lady-speaks-out-about-usda-threats-over-tree/

Where's the secret conspiracy?

I guess what bothers me is you seem just Okey Dokey with it.
I guess since the tree folks sent her a new tree (which I haven't heard) it makes the governments action just fine right?

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Re: FDA Says: Drinking This Natural Food is a Crime
« Reply #79 on: October 14, 2011, 05:55:56 PM »

That is exactly the case.  Smash is really good at giving whacked out one sided conspiracy stories, but when you check it is always something much different than portrayed.

In this case the tree was taken and the nursery that sold her the tree admitted their own error of giving her a potentially diseased tree and shipped her a new one that was healthy at no cost to her.

Same with the one about the dairy recently.  If you read the actual judges order it is clear that the meaning is far different than the selected repost.  In fact they were a big production dairy farm which DID make them MORE culpable to the law of not distributing raw milk. 

Now let's see if we can find a conspiracy with the cows.  :o

A farm called Grassway Organics, and a store GrassWay Organics Farm Store, allow members only to board their cows and buy their products.

http://www.grasswayorganics.com/

GrassWay Organics Farm Store, LLC
The members-only farm store is open on Monday, Wednesday - Saturday from 9:00 to 5:00. It is closed Tuesdays and Sundays.

A judge, in his ruling says they can't do that. Where does he say they were a "big production" farm?

http://www.thecompletepatient.com/storage/WIorder-clarification9-11.pdf


The secret conspiracy is what Duck?

They were not charged with conspiracy so what is your problem with the story?

The only thing "whacked out" here to me is again, the over reaching pestering of individual citizens by the government peaceably going about their private business!

Not to mention private property rights, private contract rights, and the individual right to do with their bodies as they please.

Well, I guess the private property thing was solved with the smoking bans. Just ask the bar owners?
And, contract law was thrown under the bus by Obama when he bailed out GM. Just ask the stock and bond holders?
Yep, and you can't put what ever you want in your body either. That "War on Drugs" sealed the deal on that. Unless of course it is a government approved (FDA) drug manufactured for your use by the big Pharms. Pardon the pun! ;D
Oh, and don't worry about those side affects! :o

At least for now the lovers of freedom and Liberty have a voice in Washington.
That's right, DOCTOR Ron Paul!

He took it upon himself to introduce legislation to deal with this topic.

112th Congress 2011-2012
 H.R. 1830


 INTRODUCTORY REMARKS - Rep. Ron Paul on May 11, 2011
http://www.farmtoconsumer.org/federal/112_Cong-HR1830.htm




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« Reply #80 on: October 14, 2011, 10:54:27 PM »

whacked out one sided conspiracy stories, but when you check it is always something much different than portrayed.

Really, is that because Bill Maher, Colbert, or the Ministry of Propaganda didn't report them?

Let's see, doesn't conspiracy indicate or require some form of secrecy?
Yep, I think it does!

Well there is no secrecy in these two stories at all.
It's the government in action. Doing what they do every day.
Why don't we take them one at a time?

The USDA 3 years after the purchase of some stupid mail order lemon tree threatens to fine and jail the women who bought it.
Where is the conspiracy?

Did the government use intimidation, threats of force and violence, imprisonment, and threats of forfeiture and fines of up to 60 freaking thousand dollars?

Yep.

Secret?

Nope.

Have you read her statements? Here is a review.

What did your family and friends think of it? What did they say when you thought you might push harder to keep your tree?
 
My family and friends were quite shocked. I have heard from quite a number of people who read the article, and it amazes me how afraid people are – they think the government is reading our e-mails, listening to our calls, etc. It is a shame in the land of the free that people have to feel this way.
 
What would you say to those who stand by the USDA’s heavy actions in the name of environmental safety?
 
And to those who think it’s not a big deal, I ask them how they will feel when the government decides to seize something they own and value.
 
Would you do anything differently if it happened again?
 
I don’t know what what I would do it if I had to do it over again. I would like to think I would push it and demand a warrant as is my right, but I knew the tree was going one way or the other. I pushed and questioned it as best as I did, but in the end, these people, paid with our tax dollars, treated me like a common criminal.
http://healthfreedoms.org/2011/09/24/the-lemon-tree-lady-speaks-out-about-usda-threats-over-tree/

Where's the secret conspiracy?

I guess what bothers me is you seem just Okey Dokey with it.
I guess since the tree folks sent her a new tree (which I haven't heard) it makes the governments action just fine right?


You are right.  I should go to your singular website that repeatedly distorts to make conspiracy theories seem valid.

I mean, gosh, getting both sides and seeing reality is just dumb.
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Re: FDA Says: Drinking This Natural Food is a Crime
« Reply #81 on: October 15, 2011, 12:02:41 AM »

You are right.  I should go to your singular website that repeatedly distorts to make conspiracy theories seem valid.

I mean, gosh, getting both sides and seeing reality is just dumb.
Do you have a government position statement you would like to make for the USDA on this one?

You still didn't answer if you are fine with the government tactics used over a freaking three year old lemon tree much less any type of conspiracy.

I never asked you to go to any website, you chose to. What have they distorted? Did they misquote the government? Hmmmm.

You are the one making paranoid conspiracy remarks, not me.

BTW, theory is just an idea. This woman made statements of facts, which you have yet to refute.

Not my problem to deal with.
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Re: FDA Says: Drinking This Natural Food is a Crime
« Reply #82 on: February 05, 2012, 09:40:53 PM »

Officials say raw milk sickens dozens
Sunday, February 5, 2012

Raw milk from a farm in Franklin County is believed to be the origin for an outbreak of illness that’s sickened more than three dozen people in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, West Virginia and Maryland, including two in Bucks, according to officials.

Exact locations for those who have been sickened by the Campylobacter bacteria was not available Friday night; however, the farm believed to be the source, according to the Pennsylvania Department of Health, is known to deliver to several locations in Bucks and Montgomery counties.

Susan L. Ward, a nurse and bureau director of the County’s Personal Health Services, said there are two cases of campylobacter infection in Bucks that are believed to be linked to the Franklin County farm.

Campylobacter is a bacterial infection that can cause cramping, vomiting and diarrhea, according to the state Department of Health. According to the Centers for Disease Control, campylobacter is one of the most common causes of diarrhea, though most cases go undetected. Experts estimate about 2.4 million people are sickened by campylobacter nationwide each year.

There are about 1,300 cases of campylobacter each year in Pennsylvania. The department of health said they believe they have traced these cases back to the Your Family Cow farm in Chambersburg in Franklin County. The farm suspended raw milk production last week, according to a press release from the department of health.

The Your Family Cow farm sells raw milk at its farm store in Chambersburg, but the milk is also sold through retailers in the Philadelphia area, Lehigh Valley and around Pittsburgh.

According to the Your Family Cow website, retail stores including Bunn’s Natural Foods in Upper Southampton, the Buckingham Green Shopping Center in Buckingham, the Glenside Farmers Market in Glenside, Shady Brook Farm Market in Lower Makefield and The Market by Shady Brook Farm at Delaware Valley College in Doylestown.

The farm also operates several drop points where a mini-bus delivers pre-ordered farm products including raw milk. The drop points in Bucks and Montgomery counties are the parking lot at the Walgreens on The Fairway in Abington, the Target parking lot on Knapp Road in Montgomery Township, the Bunn’s Natural Foods in Upper Southampton, the Commerce Park Shopping Center in Bristol, a soccer field parking lot off River Road near Route 202 in Solebury, and a parking lot on Woodside Road near Taylorsville Road and I-95 in Lower Makefield.

Raw milk has a 10-day shelf life, according to the state’s health department. It can last longer if frozen, though freezing the milk does not necessarily kill the campylobacter bacteria.

People infected by the bacteria will show symptoms between two and five days. Patients do not require medical treatment unless severely dehydrated or if the infection spreads beyond the intestines.
http://www.phillyburbs.com/my_town/bristol/officials-say-raw-milk-sickens-dozens/article_88677d36-ed67-53e2-b3a1-8949b6d798bf.html
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« Reply #83 on: February 07, 2012, 09:35:39 PM »

Raw Milk Debates Underway in Several States
Feb 06, 2012

The raw milk games are just getting underway in statehouses across America. Legislative sessions are annual opportunities to make changes in the crazy quilt that is raw milk regulation in this country, as the states all pursue their own unique courses when it comes to the sale of unpasteurized milk.

On one side are those who say anyone can drink raw milk - just buy a cow - while those on the other side push for full-blown, unrestricted retail sales for unpasteurized milk.

As in past years, there is no predicting when or where raw milk wars are going to break out. Indiana's General Assembly this year has seen one of those unexpected skirmishes, where surprise definitely has had the advantage.

Indiana Senate Bill 398 was drafted to be all about some changes in the duties and responsibilities of the state chemist. Then a 76-line amendment was proposed for SB 398.

With that language added to bill, a licensed milk producer with 20 or fewer cows would be allowed to sell raw milk without much additional regulation. The on-farm sales would have to be made under signs telling the public that "raw milk products are not pasteurized" and bottles will require "raw milk" labels. 

But that's about it. Indiana's current law allows raw milk only to be sold as pet food.

The amendment language was adopted and SB 398 is on the Indiana Senate's second reading calendar, which means it could be brought to the floor for a final up or down vote whenever leaders want to bring  it forward.

On-farm sales of unpasteurized milk are currently legal in 15 states. Another 10 states allow retail sales, just like pasteurized milk.

Indiana senators who want to relax restrictions on raw milk spoke fondly of their own experiences with the beverage, mostly when they were growing up.

In New Jersey, where attempts to liberalize raw milk sales have been hung up since at least 2010, advocates are trying again.

Consumers not involved with the current underworld of raw milk are getting exposed to it through some recent media reports. The Camden Courier Post, for example, paints a picture of cash being exchanged for illicit milk in a dimly lit garage. Orders are picked up in reusable bags, and driven away quickly in the night.

The garage in question is a distribution center for raw milk produced in nearby Pennsylvania, where dairy farms have long provided the product to customers who come from the New Jersey side of the border.   

New Jersey has one of the oldest bans on the sale and distribution of raw milk.  Those prohibitions were put in place after raw milk was found responsible for massive outbreaks of foodborne illness early in the century.

The New Jersey Assembly voted 71-6 last year to allow some commercial sales of raw milk.   But the Senate Economic Growth Committee sat on the bill, waiting until December  to hold a hearing before allowing the measure to die.

The measure was quickly reintroduced in the new Assembly session and assigned to the  Agriculture and Natural Resources Committee. Now A-518, the New Jersey bill was approved by the committee on Friday.

In testimony before the vote, those opposed to the bill criticized it for not requiring raw milk dairies to test for pathogens, and for potentially costing the state more to oversee the dairies and investigate outbreaks.

Sponsor of the bill, Republican John DiMaio of Hackettstown, said he wasn't worried about health concerns, and that the measure establishes the standards a licensee must maintain in order to get a permit and protect consumers.

In Wisconsin, where only a veto by former Gov. Jim Doyle prevented the commercial sale of raw milk after a liberalization bill passed the Legislature, a big date for advocates will be Feb. 22.

That's the day the newly formed Wisconsin Raw Milk Association is holding its lobbying day in Madison.

The group is supporting Senate Bill 108, which would end most state regulations for licensed producers  who opt to sell raw milk to the public. This bill hardly moved in 2011, but then again, not much moved in Madison last year that was not part of the budget and benefits battle between Wisconsin's Republican Gov. Scott Walker and Democrats in the Legislature.

Spokesmen for Walker say the governor, who is currently fighting a union-backed recall, would likely sign a raw milk bill if it lands on his desk.

While Doyle set up a task force that proposed recommendations for how raw milk might be safely produced and sold in the state, that legislative sponsors of SB 108 have largely ignored that work.

In Kentucky, a bill to legitimize cow-share arrangements has been sent to the Senate floor.

Sharing ownership of a herd of cows to gain access to unpasteurized dairy products is not expressly prohibited in Kentucky, where Department of Public Health regulations ban the retail sale of milk that hasn't been pasteurized. But the bill would clarify their legality.

The measure is opposed by the Kentucky Dairy Development Council, which fears it would be a step closer to allowing raw milk sales with no regulatory oversight.

The dairy council acknowledges that some farmers want to sell raw milk because they can sell it at a premium, but cautions that all dairies get hurt whenever there's an outbreak. It points to the recent outbreak of Campylobacter infection, linked to a Pennsylvania raw milk dairy, that has sickened at least 38 people in four states.

The bill is supported by Kentucky's Community Farm Alliance.

Indiana, New Jersey, Wisconsin and Kentucky will not be the only states that see raw milk action during legislative sessions this year.
http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2012/02/raw-milk-games-already-underway-in-3-statehouses/
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Re: FDA Says: Drinking This Natural Food is a Crime
« Reply #84 on: February 08, 2012, 05:36:23 AM »

FDA - put down the raw milk and eat toxic tacos!
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« Reply #85 on: February 08, 2012, 07:12:51 AM »

FDA - put down the raw milk and eat toxic tacos!

LOL . . . . . yep! 
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« Reply #86 on: February 12, 2012, 07:53:38 PM »

Ron Paul stands up for raw milk and Health Freedom in New Hampshire
Sunday, February 12, 2012 by: S. D. Wells

Ron Paul represents the polar opposite of nearly every politician in control of legislation today. Most politicians accept legal bribes (called lobbying) from the big pharmaceutical companies that lead the proliferation of prescription drugs in America, the third leading cause of death. Not only has Ron Paul introduced legislation to repeal the FDA's prohibition of interstate sales of raw milk, he consistently reminds everyone that Government should not have control over our food choices.


Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/034941_Ron_Paul_raw_milk_health_freedom.html#ixzz1mDd6qyG5
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« Reply #87 on: February 15, 2012, 08:20:04 PM »

Pennsylvania just crucified a local Amish guy who sold to Delaware-based buyers using the "Interstate Commerce Clause" as justification.  The poor man's "Public Defender" (sic) didn't even have the cajones to point out that the federales have no jurisdiction whatsoever over the Amish.  No surprise there...
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« Reply #88 on: February 22, 2012, 02:09:54 PM »

Raw milk causes most illnesses from dairy, study finds

Unpasteurized milk, touted as the ultimate health food by some, is 150 times more likely to cause food-borne illness outbreaks than pasteurized milk, and such outbreaks had a hospitalization rate 13 times higher than those involving pasteurized dairy products, a study from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention finds.

The survey found 121 outbreaks linked to dairy products in which it was known whether the milk was pasteurized or unpasteurized (also called "raw"). Of those, 60% were caused by raw milk and 39% by pasteurized milk.

"When you consider that no more than 1% of the milk consumed in the United States is raw, it's pretty startling to see that more of the outbreaks were caused by raw milk than pasteurized," says Barbara Mahon, senior author on the paper and deputy director of enteric diseases at CDC.

The 13-year review, published in this month's edition of the journal Emerging Infectious Diseases, is one of the largest done to date. It also found that states where the sale of raw milk is legal have twice as many outbreaks as states where it is illegal.

Pennsylvania is in the midst of a campylobacter outbreak linked to raw milk from a dairy in Chambersburg, Pa., that had sickened 77 people as of Tuesday. Of the cases, 67 are in Pennsylvania, five in Maryland, two in New Jersey and three in West Virginia, says Thomas Hostetterwith the Pennsylvania Department of Health.

Raw milk proponents say they believe it can cure a host of illnesses and protects against disease. They are engaged in an ongoing struggle with state public health agencies, many of which are concerned about increasing illnesses.

People who got sick from outbreaks tied to raw milk were also younger than those sickened in outbreaks linked to pasteurized milk. About 60% were younger than 20, whereas in pasteurized milk outbreaks, 23% were younger than 20. "It's just tragic when, for example, a parent gives a child raw milk because they're trying to do something for them and they end up making them sick," Mahon says.

The rate of outbreaks involving unpasteurized dairy products was higher in states that allow the sale of raw milk and dairy products. These included fluid milk and cheeses made from unpasteurized milk that were aged less than 60 days. In cheeses aged more than 60 days the aging process kills off bacteria, Mahon says.

Pasteurization is the process of heating milk to kill microorganisms. Typically milk is held at 161 degrees for 15 seconds, a process called flash pasteurization. Under federal law, products made from unpasteurized milk may not be sold or traded across state borders. Thirty states allow the sale of such products within their state, and 10 allow people who buy "shares" in a cow to legally get the unpasteurized milk from those cows, says Sally Fallon, president of the Weston A. Price Foundation.

A nutrition activist organization, the foundation fights for the legal sale of unpasteurized milk and a ban on soy-based formulas for infants, based on the theories of Weston Price, a 20th century Cleveland dentist. It is a major supporter of raw milk consumption. The Foundation believes that pasteurizing milk destroys vitamins and damages health-giving enzymes in milk.

Fallon believes that more Americans than just 1% consume raw dairy products, citing a 2007 survey "that showed that 3% of the population had consumed raw milk within the last seven days." She also says that the CDC study did not break down illnesses due to fluid raw milk and soft cheeses such as queso fresco "which is often made illegally."

The Price website is host to many testimonials by raw milk drinkers that unpasteurized dairy products have reversed "allergies, asthma and behavior problems in children; and digestive disorders, arthritis, osteoporosis and even cancer in adults."

Mahon disagrees. "It is very clear that raw milk is a risk to human health. I know that there are people who believe that it has health giving or curative properties, but I have never seen any studies that support that, and it's widely discredited in the public health community," Mahon says.
http://yourlife.usatoday.com/fitness-food/safety/story/2012-02-21/Raw-milk-causes-most-illnesses-from-dairy/53196680/1
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« Reply #89 on: February 22, 2012, 06:00:37 PM »

Raw milk causes most illnesses from dairy, study finds

Unpasteurized milk, touted as the ultimate health food by some, is 150 times more likely to cause food-borne illness outbreaks than pasteurized milk, and such outbreaks had a hospitalization rate 13 times higher than those involving pasteurized dairy products, a study from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention finds.

The survey found 121 outbreaks linked to dairy products in which it was known whether the milk was pasteurized or unpasteurized (also called "raw"). Of those, 60% were caused by raw milk and 39% by pasteurized milk.

"When you consider that no more than 1% of the milk consumed in the United States is raw, it's pretty startling to see that more of the outbreaks were caused by raw milk than pasteurized," says Barbara Mahon, senior author on the paper and deputy director of enteric diseases at CDC.

The 13-year review, published in this month's edition of the journal Emerging Infectious Diseases, is one of the largest done to date. It also found that states where the sale of raw milk is legal have twice as many outbreaks as states where it is illegal.

Pennsylvania is in the midst of a campylobacter outbreak linked to raw milk from a dairy in Chambersburg, Pa., that had sickened 77 people as of Tuesday. Of the cases, 67 are in Pennsylvania, five in Maryland, two in New Jersey and three in West Virginia, says Thomas Hostetterwith the Pennsylvania Department of Health.

Raw milk proponents say they believe it can cure a host of illnesses and protects against disease. They are engaged in an ongoing struggle with state public health agencies, many of which are concerned about increasing illnesses.

People who got sick from outbreaks tied to raw milk were also younger than those sickened in outbreaks linked to pasteurized milk. About 60% were younger than 20, whereas in pasteurized milk outbreaks, 23% were younger than 20. "It's just tragic when, for example, a parent gives a child raw milk because they're trying to do something for them and they end up making them sick," Mahon says.

The rate of outbreaks involving unpasteurized dairy products was higher in states that allow the sale of raw milk and dairy products. These included fluid milk and cheeses made from unpasteurized milk that were aged less than 60 days. In cheeses aged more than 60 days the aging process kills off bacteria, Mahon says.

Pasteurization is the process of heating milk to kill microorganisms. Typically milk is held at 161 degrees for 15 seconds, a process called flash pasteurization. Under federal law, products made from unpasteurized milk may not be sold or traded across state borders. Thirty states allow the sale of such products within their state, and 10 allow people who buy "shares" in a cow to legally get the unpasteurized milk from those cows, says Sally Fallon, president of the Weston A. Price Foundation.

A nutrition activist organization, the foundation fights for the legal sale of unpasteurized milk and a ban on soy-based formulas for infants, based on the theories of Weston Price, a 20th century Cleveland dentist. It is a major supporter of raw milk consumption. The Foundation believes that pasteurizing milk destroys vitamins and damages health-giving enzymes in milk.

Fallon believes that more Americans than just 1% consume raw dairy products, citing a 2007 survey "that showed that 3% of the population had consumed raw milk within the last seven days." She also says that the CDC study did not break down illnesses due to fluid raw milk and soft cheeses such as queso fresco "which is often made illegally."

The Price website is host to many testimonials by raw milk drinkers that unpasteurized dairy products have reversed "allergies, asthma and behavior problems in children; and digestive disorders, arthritis, osteoporosis and even cancer in adults."

Mahon disagrees. "It is very clear that raw milk is a risk to human health.

On this statement alone I disagree. I have been to places in this globe where raw milk is comsumed on a daily basis with no ill effects. It is a normal part if the daily diet. Wether the milk be from cows, camels, or goats. Could it be, to a degree, we are over-sensitive to some of the natural bacteria nature creates?
Just throwing that out there. We here in America live in a world of hand sanitizers and chemicals to clean everything to the max; Are we too clean fo our own good?


 I know that there are people who believe that it has health giving or curative properties, but I have never seen any studies that support that, and it's widely discredited in the public health community," Mahon says.

I guess my question to this would be which "public health community"?
Since it is common knowledge we do not have a truly free market many of the choices a free market would give are refused to the consumers prior to purchase by regulation. With that being the case we already have a skewed number of people to preform any kind of testing or data collection.
If there were really a massive problem with raw milk why is there an on going and continually rising demand for the product?


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