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Wall Street protesters: We're in for the long haul
« on: October 02, 2011, 06:33:55 PM »

NEW YORK (AP) - The protesters who have been camping out in Manhattan's Financial District for more than two weeks eat donated food and keep their laptops running with a portable gas-powered generator. They have a newspaper - the Occupied Wall Street Journal - and a makeshift hospital.

They lack a clear objective, though they speak against corporate greed, social inequality, global climate change and other concerns. But they're growing in numbers, getting more organized and show no sign of quitting.

City officials "thought we were going to leave and we haven't left," 19-year-old protester Kira Moyer-Sims said. "We're going to stay as long as we can."

Saturday's arrests of more than 700 protesters who tried to cross the Brooklyn Bridge appeared to do little to dampen enthusiasm Sunday.

The Occupy Wall Street demonstration started out last month with less than a dozen college students spending days and nights in Zuccotti Park, a private plaza off Broadway. It has grown sizably, however, both in New York City and elsewhere as people across the country, from Boston to Los Angeles, display their solidarity in similar protests.

Moyer-Sims, of Portland, Ore., said the group has grown much more organized. "We have a protocol for most things," she said, including getting legal help for people who are arrested.

The protest has drawn protesters of diverse ages and occupations, including Jackie Fellner, a marketing manager from Westchester County.

"We're not here to take down Wall Street. It's not poor against rich. It's about big money dictating which politicians get elected and what programs get funded," she said.

On Sunday, a group of New York public school teachers sat in the plaza, including Denise Martinez of Brooklyn. She most students at her school live at or below the poverty level, and her classes are jammed with up to about 50 students.

"These are America's future workers, and what's trickling down to them are the problems - the unemployment, the crime," she said. She blamed Wall Street for causing the country's financial problems and said it needed to do more to solve them.

Police officers have been a regular sight at the plaza, but NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said the protest has not led the department to assign additional officers to the area. The department won't change its approach to handling the protest and will continue regular patrols and monitoring, he said.

"As always, if it is a lawful demonstration, we help facilitate and if they break the law we arrest them," Browne said.

The Fire Department said it had gone to the site several times over the past week to check for any fire safety hazards arising from people living in the plaza, but there have been no major issues.

The protesters have spent most of their time in the plaza, sleeping on air mattresses, holding assemblies to discuss their goals and listening to speakers including filmmaker Michael Moore and Princeton University professor Cornel West.

On the past two Saturdays, though, they marched to other parts of the city, which led to tense standoffs with police. On Sept. 24, about 100 people were arrested and the group put out video which showed some women being hit with pepper spray by a police official. On Oct. 1, more than 700 people were arrested as the group attempted to cross the Brooklyn Bridge.

Some of the protesters said they were lured onto the roadway by police, or they didn't hear the calls from authorities to head to the pedestrian walkway. Police said no one was tricked into being arrested, and that those in the back of the group who couldn't hear were allowed to leave.

The NYPD on Sunday released video footage to back up its stance. In one of the videos, an official uses a bullhorn to warn the crowd. Marchers can be seen chanting, "Take the bridge."

Browne said that of the most recent arrests, the vast majority had been released. Eight people were still being held Sunday, three because of outstanding warrants and five others who refused to show any identification.

Gatherings elsewhere included one in Providence, R.I., that attracted about 60 people to a public park. The participants called it a "planning meeting" and initially debated whether to allow reporters to cover it.

In Boston, protesters set up an encampment across the street from the Federal Reserve Building.

http://apnews.myway.com/image/20111002/Wall_Street_Protest.sff_NYJM102_20111002114235.html?date=20111002&docid=D9Q4E2CO2
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Re: Wall Street protesters: We're in for the long haul
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2011, 07:51:50 PM »

They are in for the long haul, and a long waste of time!
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Re: Wall Street protesters: We're in for the long haul
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2011, 08:04:53 PM »

Ya know what, I thought I was wasting time at war protests in the early 70's until I hooked up with a flower child of the time.   ;)

Ya just never know Brian.  What's the old saying about a silver lining.   ;D
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Re: Wall Street protesters: We're in for the long haul
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2011, 08:42:11 PM »

Ya know what, I thought I was wasting time at war protests in the early 70's until I hooked up with a flower child of the time.   ;)

Ya just never know Brian.  What's the old saying about a silver lining.   ;D
They have a better chance of getting laid than they do changing Wall Street. Unless the protesters are an ugly bunch that is!  ;D
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Re: Wall Street protesters: We're in for the long haul
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2011, 08:44:44 PM »

I agree....too powerful and make too many campaign contributions to elected officials to ever get touched.  Politics today!
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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2011, 08:54:19 PM »

I agree....too powerful and make too many campaign contributions to elected officials to ever get touched.  Politics today!
How big does it (the protest) need to get in order to make a difference?
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« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2011, 09:00:45 PM »

How big does it (the protest) need to get in order to make a difference?
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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2011, 09:08:39 PM »

How big does it (the protest) need to get in order to make a difference?

I think it would have to be nation wide.....like the Vietnam war movement.
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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2011, 11:24:27 PM »

How big does it (the protest) need to get in order to make a difference?

Depends, how many permanently unemployed Americans will it take for actual seismic political change?

I suspect the numbers would be similar.
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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2011, 11:50:16 PM »

Caution language and some bad grammar in the following link, but it has a point.

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« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2011, 04:33:20 AM »

I think it would have to be nation wide.....like the Vietnam war movement.
Wall-Street style demonstrations with names like Occupy Los Angeles, Occupy Chicago, and Occupy Boston were staged in front of Federal Reserve buildings in those cities. A group in Columbus, Ohio, also marched on the capital city's street. And signs of support were rearing up outside the U.S. In Canada, a Wall Street rally is planned for later this month in Toronto.
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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2011, 05:57:52 AM »

I guess we will just have to wait and see.  If the numbers grow then it may.

Doesn't appear to have the support or emotion that the war movement did......but then again I think society is much more complacent nowadays.
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Re: Wall Street protesters: We're in for the long haul
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2011, 07:41:24 AM »

......but then again I think society is much more complacent nowadays.

Complacent...  I say apathetic.  Very similar. 

But I support their right to protest, if they want, and who knows where it might lead. 
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Re: Wall Street protesters: We're in for the long haul
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2011, 09:57:43 AM »

I guess we will just have to wait and see.  If the numbers grow then it may.

Doesn't appear to have the support or emotion that the war movement did......but then again I think society is much more complacent nowadays.

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« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2011, 08:57:54 PM »

I guess we will just have to wait and see.  If the numbers grow then it may.

Doesn't appear to have the support or emotion that the war movement did......but then again I think society is much more complacent nowadays.


Sounds like it may be spreading out of NYC now...

a protest is being planned for Grand Rapids MI among several other places.

http://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/index.ssf/2011/10/occupy_wall_street_supporters.html
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