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« Reply #270 on: January 03, 2012, 02:42:29 PM »

Which is real funny since the tea party "protests" were pretty much bought and paid for BY Wall Street.

Really? Wall St?  not the Koch Bros.?  Ya think Kopke/anyone in Monroe has a check stub lying around from wall st?  Koch? 

Obviously, you know as much about the TP protests as I know about ows.

Now y'all keep sayin wall st.  But no real names.  If I mention DC, I can list a hundred names.

As far as your wiki links, ows would appear to be more organized, i.e. bought and paid for.  Still doesn't indicate the size or overall following.
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« Reply #271 on: January 03, 2012, 02:52:31 PM »

Really? Wall St?  not the Koch Bros.?  Ya think Kopke/anyone in Monroe has a check stub lying around from wall st?  Koch? 

Obviously, you know as much about the TP protests as I know about ows.

Now y'all keep sayin wall st.  But no real names.  If I mention DC, I can list a hundred names.

As far as your wiki links, ows would appear to be more organized, i.e. bought and paid for.  Still doesn't indicate the size or overall following.
You stated that the Tea partys were larger, and I proved you wrong.

The Tea Party Movement (reminds me of a bowel movement, pretty accurate since most are full of ....) was organized by big business and those stupid enough to believe that big business had their best interests at heart.

The fact that you include John Kopke in the list of those being stupid enough to believe that is no surprise to me.

There are quite a few of the old "tea party" gang that feel they got shafted, and they are pretty much correct.

Also, if you think that the Koch Bros aren't part of Wall street, you're delusional.
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« Reply #272 on: January 03, 2012, 02:53:13 PM »

I don't think you understand the underlying problems.  Agree to disagree.

What is this 'system' that you speak of?  And if I did approve of pepper spray (which I don't believe I even commented on), how can you approve of crapping on cop cars, rape, drugs, theft and the costs associated with these ows camps?

And no, not every poor person is a lowlife.  According to many, these ows people are ordinary everyday citizens who aren't getting their share of the entitlements being passed out to wall st.  Wall St. is not the face of authority that is keeping the status quo. Misguided anger imho.   

The system I'm talking about is wallstreet money being stuffed into washington pockets to dictate policy...That is not misdirected!

I don't approve of any of the illegal and vulgar activity's associated with the movement(and never once did I say I did!), they should be punished, but the message shouldn't be lost because of it...
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« Reply #273 on: January 03, 2012, 03:03:48 PM »

The system I'm talking about is wallstreet money being stuffed into washington pockets to dictate policy...That is not misdirected!

I don't approve of any of the illegal and vulgar activity's associated with the movement(and never once did I say I did!), they should be punished, but the message shouldn't be lost because of it...
APPLAUSE!!!!!
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« Reply #274 on: January 03, 2012, 04:01:20 PM »

The system I'm talking about is wallstreet money being stuffed into washington pockets to dictate policy...That is not misdirected!

Yes it is misdirected.  You can't vote out a CEO.  Agree to disagree.
I don't approve of any of the illegal and vulgar activity's associated with the movement(and never once did I say I did!), they should be punished, but the message shouldn't be lost because of it...

Applause....yet nothing for the tea party, which cost the taxpayers nada.  OWS is bought and paid for and fluff is delusional to think otherwise.  And yes, the message, whatever it is, is being lost.

And fluff, you proved nothing.  MSM reporting of the size is biased and wrong, and also has little to do with the topic, so I'll drop it.

And your typical left wing comments about bowel movement, stupid, etc. is so left wing and childish, I laugh at most your and FF's posts.
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« Reply #275 on: January 03, 2012, 06:30:20 PM »

And fluff, you proved nothing.  MSM reporting of the size is biased and wrong, and also has little to do with the topic, so I'll drop it.

And your typical left wing comments about bowel movement, stupid, etc. is so left wing and childish, I laugh at most your and FF's posts.

This comment is almost 100% content free. I'm having a hard time figuring out if you're a pot, or a kettle.
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« Reply #276 on: January 03, 2012, 07:00:39 PM »

And fluff, you proved nothing.  MSM reporting of the size is biased and wrong, and also has little to do with the topic, so I'll drop it.

And your typical left wing comments about bowel movement, stupid, etc. is so left wing and childish, I laugh at most your and FF's posts.


And your comments are those of a right-wing blow hard...


You've total missed the point stating that you can't vote for CEO's...IT"S THE CORRUPTION IN WASHINGTON THAT IS THE PROBLEM...You never said the corruption doesn't exsist, so I guess you're cool with all that.
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« Reply #277 on: January 03, 2012, 07:11:17 PM »

Everybody's okay with corruption, as long as its their guy getting a slice of the pie. See: Ron Paul & hometown pork.
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« Reply #278 on: January 03, 2012, 08:30:26 PM »



IT"S THE CORRUPTION IN WASHINGTON THAT IS THE PROBLEM...


So what is ows protesting?  Wall St. or Washington?   You're confusing me, but I'm easily confused (ask anyone in the cheap seats).

I've stated many times that all the people in Washington are corrupt...D and R.  Throw them all out has been spouted by conservatives and the TP endlessly.  The animosity towards the TP is that the people they want to replace them with don't match the left's ideology.  As someone once said, I'd rather see the first 100 people from the phone book in DC. 

The TP made a difference in 2010 and may do so again in Nov.  How is the ows going about making a change, and I hope they do, because they sure cost the towns a lot of money?  You've got Ozero and his wall st cronies on your side...or are they?

But hey, I'm just a blowhard.  Name calling is becoming the norm here.  And the TP, we're just a bunch of white racist terrorists (according to the msm and homeland security).

So tell me how going after wall st. is going to fix the corruption in washington. 
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« Reply #279 on: January 03, 2012, 09:41:25 PM »

No one is on my side...

I stated my point and you disregard it, that's fine, I named the problem and you're still spitting at me because I'm not saying what you want to hear.

Rich people making the polocy must be your American dream...
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« Reply #280 on: January 03, 2012, 09:52:41 PM »

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So what is ows protesting?  Wall St. or Washington?


Both, at this point they are one in the same!   At least that's my take of it...Weed out the nuts and troublemakers and the message is clear.
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« Reply #281 on: January 03, 2012, 10:04:14 PM »

Everybody's okay with corruption, as long as its their guy getting a slice of the pie. See: Ron Paul & hometown pork.


I don't see how that's corruption. Better that Ron Paul does what his constituents ask of him by returning money to his area through earmarks. Even though he adds earmarks he always votes against them, it's called being a good Rep.
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« Reply #282 on: January 03, 2012, 10:05:43 PM »


Both, at this point they are one in the same!   At least that's my take of it...Weed out the nuts and troublemakers and the message is clear.

Agreed. There needs to be a clear separation of corporation and state, just like church and state.
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« Reply #283 on: January 03, 2012, 10:07:37 PM »

It's a shame something that should be taken seriously is scoffed at as the work of fools, and that's exactly what the establishment wants...
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« Reply #284 on: January 03, 2012, 10:30:18 PM »

No one is on my side...

I stated my point and you disregard it, that's fine, I named the problem and you're still spitting at me because I'm not saying what you want to hear.

Rich people making the polocy must be your American dream...

I didn't disregard your point, it was all in CAPS.  I'm not trying to make you say anything. 
I just don't know what or who you're mad at.  And from my post, you think "rich people making the policy is my American dream"?  Sheesh, between you and Lordfly thinking I'm ok with corruption, you guys really need to redirect your anger.

I just don't understand the purpose of ows.  Yes, walls st and washington are one and the same.....it's certainly looking like a revolving door with Odumbo's wall st. cronies.  You can vote out one, but not the other. 

Weed out the nuts and troublemakers and the message is clear?   You do that and there won't be many left.  Maybe a few paid for hire union thugs.

So what will be accomplished by these ows protests that you're so enamored with?  I understand you're not taking sides, just mad as hell and you don't want to take it anymore.  Well, I'm mad as hell too.  Like you, I've got friends with stories and my own stories. 

You can continue to think all TP people are bought and paid for, but you'd be wrong.  I guess you refuse to see my side.  Funny how some politicians fear the TP while others are willing to engage in civil discussion with them.  The other politicians were sure quick to join the ows, until it got ugly (which is why they aren't taken seriously).  Are there any politicians backing the ows anymore, because they were there at the beginning.   

ows will be just like the Greek rioters (and Spain and Italy) in a few years.  TP is trying to avert that at the voting booth (Something ows should consider).  Not looking good though.  Keep those bits cool and dry.     
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