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« Reply #360 on: March 13, 2012, 01:51:09 PM »

Whenever I write about Occupy Wall Street, some readers ask me if the protesters really are half-naked Communists aiming to bring down the American economic system when they’re not doing drugs or having sex in public.

The answer is no. That alarmist view of the movement is a credit to the (prurient) imagination of its critics, and voyeurs of Occupy Wall Street will be disappointed. More important, while alarmists seem to think that the movement is a “mob” trying to overthrow capitalism, one can make a case that, on the contrary, it highlights the need to restore basic capitalist principles like accountability.

To put it another way, this is a chance to save capitalism from crony capitalists.

I’m as passionate a believer in capitalism as anyone. My Krzysztofowicz cousins (who didn’t shorten the family name) lived in Poland, and their experience with Communism taught me that the way to raise living standards is capitalism.

But, in recent years, some financiers have chosen to live in a government-backed featherbed. Their platform seems to be socialism for tycoons and capitalism for the rest of us. They’re not evil at all. But when the system allows you more than your fair share, it’s human to grab. That’s what explains featherbedding by both unions and tycoons, and both are impediments to a well-functioning market economy.

When I lived in Asia and covered the financial crisis there in the late 1990s, American government officials spoke scathingly about “crony capitalism” in the region. As Lawrence Summers, then a deputy Treasury secretary, put it in a speech in August 1998: “In Asia, the problems related to ‘crony capitalism’ are at the heart of this crisis, and that is why structural reforms must be a major part” of the International Monetary Fund’s solution.

The American critique of the Asian crisis was correct. The countries involved were nominally capitalist but needed major reforms to create accountability and competitive markets.

Something similar is true today of the United States.

So I’d like to invite the finance ministers of Thailand, South Korea and Indonesia — whom I and other Americans deemed emblems of crony capitalism in the 1990s — to stand up and denounce American crony capitalism today.

Capitalism is so successful an economic system partly because of an internal discipline that allows for loss and even bankruptcy. It’s the possibility of failure that creates the opportunity for triumph. Yet many of America’s major banks are too big to fail, so they can privatize profits while socializing risk.

The upshot is that financial institutions boost leverage in search of supersize profits and bonuses. Banks pretend that risk is eliminated because it’s securitized. Rating agencies accept money to issue an imprimatur that turns out to be meaningless. The system teeters, and then the taxpayer rushes in to bail bankers out. Where’s the accountability?

It’s not just rabble-rousers at Occupy Wall Street who are seeking to put America’s capitalists on a more capitalist footing.

“Structural change is necessary,” Paul Volcker, the former chairman of the Federal Reserve, said in an important speech last month that discussed many of these themes. He called for more curbs on big banks, possibly including trimming their size, and he warned that otherwise we’re on a path of “increasingly frequent, complex and dangerous financial breakdowns.”

Likewise, Mohamed El-Erian, another pillar of the financial world who is the chief executive of Pimco, one of the world’s largest money managers, is sympathetic to aspects of the Occupy movement. He told me that the economic system needs to move toward “inclusive capitalism” and embrace broad-based job creation while curbing excessive inequality.

“You cannot be a good house in a rapidly deteriorating neighborhood,” he told me. “The credibility and the fair functioning of the neighborhood matter a great deal. Without that, the integrity of the capitalist system will weaken further.”

Lawrence Katz, a Harvard economist, adds that some inequality is necessary to create incentives in a capitalist economy but that “too much inequality can harm the efficient operation of the economy.” In particular, he says, excessive inequality can have two perverse consequences: first, the very wealthy lobby for favors, contracts and bailouts that distort markets; and, second, growing inequality undermines the ability of the poorest to invest in their own education.

“These factors mean that high inequality can generate further high inequality and eventually poor economic growth,” Professor Katz said.

Does that ring a bell?

So, yes, we face a threat to our capitalist system. But it’s not coming from half-naked anarchists manning the barricades at Occupy Wall Street protests. Rather, it comes from pinstriped apologists for a financial system that glides along without enough of the discipline of failure and that produces soaring inequality, socialist bank bailouts and unaccountable executives.

It’s time to take the crony out of capitalism, right here at home.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/27/opinion/kristof-crony-capitalism-comes-homes.html
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« Reply #361 on: March 21, 2012, 12:04:54 AM »

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Via The Raw Story: "New York police arrested protesters celebrating the six-month anniversary of Occupy Wall Street by massing on a square near the stock exchange over the weekend. Chaotic scenes unfolded at Zuccotti Park in Manhattan's financial district overnight Saturday-Sunday when officers broke up the peaceful rally by about 600 people at the site where the Occupy movement started last September..."

Police Attack Occupy Wall Street Protesters On Anniversary In NYC
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« Reply #363 on: April 19, 2012, 07:31:02 AM »

Eliot Spitzer hails the decision by Citigroup shareholders to vote down the CEO's giant pay package as a sign that the people's will can make a difference. "Our dollars own and could control the companies that we want to influence," Spitzer says, which gives the public a power that he argues could be exerted more frequently. So he has come up with a new slogan: "Instead of 'Occupy Wall Street,' lets change it a bit, to 'We Own Wall Street."

Don't 'occupy Wall Street' -- 'own' it
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« Reply #364 on: April 19, 2012, 07:32:31 AM »

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) applauds Citigroup shareholders for voting against a $15 million dollar pay package for CEO Vikram Pandit, acknowledging the influence of the Dodd-Frank financial reform legislation enacted in 2010. Sanders reflects that shareholders are fed up and may continue to exercise their opposition.

Power to the shareholders: Bernie Sanders cheers Citigroup CEO salary backlash
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OCCUPY MAY DAY
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« Reply #367 on: May 01, 2012, 10:48:00 AM »

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« Reply #368 on: May 01, 2012, 11:13:24 AM »

Did you have to post this nonsense 3 times... ???
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« Reply #371 on: May 01, 2012, 05:01:58 PM »

Did you have to post this nonsense 3 times... ???

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« Reply #372 on: May 01, 2012, 05:37:19 PM »

I guess Fry didn't participate.... Copy/Paste is in full fury today.

Fry didn't you hear... you AREN'T supposed to be working today.
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« Reply #373 on: May 01, 2012, 08:50:18 PM »

I guess Fry didn't participate.... Copy/Paste is in full fury today.

Fry didn't you hear... you AREN'T supposed to be working today.

Ha, Nice.

I was actually thinking about participating, but i couldn't find anything to break or poop on.
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« Reply #374 on: May 01, 2012, 08:57:44 PM »

I guess Fry didn't participate.... Copy/Paste is in full fury today.

Fry didn't you hear... you AREN'T supposed to be working today.
Twelve of thirteen posts today in the politics thread were Fry videos. We all should be grateful that he keeps us updated on his "thoughts".
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