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Re: Wall Street Protestors
« Reply #390 on: May 03, 2012, 09:29:48 AM »

Work-exertion or effort directed to produce or accomplish something.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/work

Sure sounds like you were working to me. You don't have to get compensation for it to be considered working.
Well I said: "One would think even the most obtuse rightie such as yourself would get the concept."
Guess I was wrong but you're entitled to your opinion.
Personally I feel only a moron would consider posting on a forum as some sort of violation against the concept of Wall Street/Occupy/May Day protests.  8*
But again you're entitled to your opinion....no matter how wrong you are.
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« Reply #392 on: May 03, 2012, 11:20:25 AM »

Well I said: "One would think even the most obtuse rightie such as yourself would get the concept."
Guess I was wrong but you're entitled to your opinion.
Personally I feel only a moron would consider posting on a forum as some sort of violation against the concept of Wall Street/Occupy/May Day protests.  8*
But again you're entitled to your opinion....no matter how wrong you are.
Work-exertion or effort directed to produce or accomplish something.

Does posting on this forum take effort? Yes.

Are you trying to accomplish something? Yes, you are trying to inform or persuade posters.

Therefore, you meet the definition of work.

Looks like you are the person with reading comprehension problems now because posting on here is clearly work.

I find it interesting that you didn't comment at all on my question about CEO wages, I guess Cenk hasn't told you how to feel yet.
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« Reply #393 on: May 03, 2012, 12:48:40 PM »

And for the record, the people smashing stuff in Seattle was Black Bloc Anarchists, not OWS. Don't confuse the two.

Right on, right on, right on!

However, my granny used to say "show me your friends laddie and I will tell you your future."
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« Reply #394 on: May 03, 2012, 02:16:22 PM »

Right on, right on, right on!

However, my granny used to say "show me your friends laddie and I will tell you your future."
You and I both "hang out" on this forum, does that make us friends?

Just because others show up at a rally to take advantage of a situation doesn't make them friends, it makes them opportunists.
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« Reply #395 on: May 03, 2012, 07:20:38 PM »

You and I both "hang out" on this forum, does that make us friends?

Just because others show up at a rally to take advantage of a situation doesn't make them friends, it makes them opportunists.

That may be...

we shall see.
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« Reply #396 on: May 03, 2012, 07:23:34 PM »

Work-exertion or effort directed to produce or accomplish something.

Does posting on this forum take effort? Yes.

Are you trying to accomplish something? Yes, you are trying to inform or persuade posters.

Therefore, you meet the definition of work.

Looks like you are the person with reading comprehension problems now because posting on here is clearly work.

I find it interesting that you didn't comment at all on my question about CEO wages, I guess Cenk hasn't told you how to feel yet.
If you want to go more extreme you could ask why he lets his heart do work pumping blood.  Geesh, how petty... 
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« Reply #397 on: May 03, 2012, 07:26:38 PM »

Right on, right on, right on!

However, my granny used to say "show me your friends laddie and I will tell you your future."
Funny how the tea radicals always proclaim that those that are teas and also plot bombings or go on killing sprees are not really tea radicals.  Maybe those other groups believe like OWS, maybe those tea radicals that plot terrorism or do it are really teas.  Maybe neither is.  That really is not as important as making insults tho, is it?
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« Reply #398 on: May 03, 2012, 07:36:25 PM »

Funny how the tea radicals always proclaim that those that are teas and also plot bombings or go on killing sprees are not really tea radicals.  Maybe those other groups believe like OWS, maybe those tea radicals that plot terrorism or do it are really teas.  Maybe neither is.  That really is not as important as making insults tho, is it?

I am not a 'tea radical.'

However, I do clearly know and understand that we are all being 'taxed enough already.'

As to making insults, perhaps you shouldn't be so free in your ad hominem.
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« Reply #399 on: May 03, 2012, 07:47:22 PM »

I am not a 'tea radical.'

However, I do clearly know and understand that we are all being 'taxed enough already.'

As to making insults, perhaps you shouldn't be so free in your ad hominem.
which are you claiming is an ad hominem?
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« Reply #400 on: May 04, 2012, 03:40:29 AM »

If you want to go more extreme you could ask why he lets his heart do work pumping blood.  Geesh, how petty...
Petty? he called JBS out and what FF does here is obviously work. So, why is it not petty when FF says JBS is wrong, but when I prove FF is actually wrong it is petty?

Funny how you couldn't comment on the post about CEO pay either.
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« Reply #401 on: May 04, 2012, 08:09:17 AM »


Petty? he called JBS out and what FF does here is obviously work. So, why is it not petty when FF says JBS is wrong, but when I prove FF is actually wrong it is petty?

Funny how you couldn't comment on the post about CEO pay either.

LOL Wow, sorry JBS, I thought you were capable of speaking for yourself, but apparently not.  So, what appeared to be primarily a copy/paste insult you took to extremes?  Not sure of details, but it seems that OWS was not supposed to work that day, but JBS said FF was “working” by posting.  As you repeatedly pointed out, that is work.  Now, I have never heard of a “don’t do any work including your own dishes or driving or anything else day” but have often heard of “don’t go to work day” meaning place of employment.   

So, you going to extremes is indeed just petty.  Any “no work” day clearly always means “employment work” and it is understood... apparently for anyone except you.   Walking to the kitchen for coffee is work, drinking the coffee is work, digesting the coffee is work, my heart pumping so that I can do any of that is work.  Do you really think that someone saying “no work” could possibly mean... in any frikking tiny way, to not do any work by the literal scientific definition of WORK?

As far as CEO pay.  I read it, I thought about making a comment and didn’t bother.  There are two components of CEO pay.  Yes, shareholders should have a say, and technically they do.  They have the non-binding vote that does not have to be paid attention to.  Just like CITI.  The raise was voted no, CITI is being sued by the shareholders so apparently they said f-- you to the shareholders vote.  So, your lofty idea mans nothing, even if the technical point should be correct.  The second is that CEO pay is not isolated but a part of society.   I think it is immensely fair for society - non shareholder society - to have an input about what affects everyone.

Your conception that a new hire low level person is comparable to a supposed genius CEO is silly.  Look at with baseball to make it clearer.  You compare a superstar player who gets millions to the ordinary talent to a high school kid just drafted as if they are the same.  The second part is that apparently there is only superstar CEO’s and no just everyday talents.  In baseball you have those superstars, and a lot of players that are just good, but not superstars.  They are paid less.  Funny how CEO’s seem to not have the average player pay scale, just superstar.   The secondary component of society does indeed have a place.  It is appropriate to question at what level should baseball players overall be compensated.

Anyway, your whole thing was based that shareholders can control CEO pay and they can’t as has been shown with the non binding votes of many places so far.  Didn’t I read that the shareholders voted no confidence in Murdock as head of News Corp and he is still there?  Maybe not.

Anyway, even that is only there because of the Dodd-Frank bill.  And as weak as a non-binding vote is, at least it guarantees that they have to do a shareholder vote.  Odd that it took until 2010 for that much.

So, as far as your "funny how you couldn't comment" was because it was stupid.  In a perfect work, yes, shareholders would be the ones to okay CEO pay packages and it would work correctly, but it isn't a perfect world and things don't work as they should.  I have no wish to do one of your petty argument s that what I and everyone else sees as the way it is, ad what you want to argue by minutia is technically what something possibly sorta should be is pointless.

"no work" is "no job related work" and not the work of chemical change or energy consumption of anything and everything.  CEO pay determined by shareholders is a nice concept, and probably the correct controlling factor, but that ain't the real world.
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« Reply #402 on: May 04, 2012, 08:50:07 AM »

Petty? he called JBS out and what FF does here is obviously work. So, why is it not petty when FF says JBS is wrong, but when I prove FF is actually wrong it is petty?

Funny how you couldn't comment on the post about CEO pay either.
I am going to do my best to keep it civil and not become childish like I used to be. I will also not be as annoying, or nit pick the small insignificant things in the posts.

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« Reply #403 on: May 04, 2012, 09:11:53 AM »

One would think even the most obtuse rightie such as yourself would get the concept...I receive zero compensation for my contributions...so when I'm on the forum, I'm not working.

But of course you MUST make everything personal.  8*

WOW.... IT WAS A JOKE!!!!!

However watching ya'll trip and fall all over it was entertaining.

Not all "work" is compensated Fry.  Though MT is not your vocation, it is very obvious that it is in fact your advocation.
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« Reply #404 on: May 04, 2012, 10:14:09 AM »


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It is unfortunate that the thread was locked as I would prefer civilized dialog such as this rather than the petty bickering that goes back and forth with nothing being accomplished.
Don't you remember sending this?
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