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Re: MEN Downsizing: Future of MT?
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2011, 12:48:25 PM »

;)

Are you winking at the Fuzz or me ??? ??? ???
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Re: MEN Downsizing: Future of MT?
« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2011, 12:49:23 PM »

I'm still watching.....just not participating near as much.  Work, travel, and finding the time to jump on just hasn't been there of late.

Still enjoy it....just not pot stirring anymore.   ;D

Humm....maybe that's why my post count is down.  ???

I've had a few streaks like that Fuzz ;) ;) ;)
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Re: MEN Downsizing: Future of MT?
« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2011, 12:53:34 PM »

Hmm. Maybe more should give that a try!  ;)
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Re: MEN Downsizing: Future of MT?
« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2011, 01:03:57 PM »

Hmm. Maybe more should give that a try!  ;)

I agree totally ;) ;) ;)

No one else has mentioned it yet so I'll stick my neck out...

do any of you think we lost some "momentum" when we had the rush of posts (many from concerned posters who have since just disappeared) when Nevaeh was murdered?

That was one great big mess for several weeks...

other than that all the partisan political crap is the other big issue I see.
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Re: MEN Downsizing: Future of MT?
« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2011, 01:45:02 PM »

Are you winking at the Fuzz or me ??? ??? ???


HAHAHAHA!   Hmmmmm.   2 birds with one wink! ! !   ;D ;D ;D
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Re: MEN Downsizing: Future of MT?
« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2011, 01:51:08 PM »

I'm just doing something I haven't done in years.......I'm bein' a good boy.

And THAT is difficult for me!
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Re: MEN Downsizing: Future of MT?
« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2011, 02:10:08 PM »

I agree totally ;) ;) ;)

No one else has mentioned it yet so I'll stick my neck out...

do any of you think we lost some "momentum" when we had the rush of posts (many from concerned posters who have since just disappeared) when Nevaeh was murdered?

That was one great big mess for several weeks...

other than that all the partisan political crap is the other big issue I see.

I don't know if the Nevaeh thread was a turning point.  Maybe.  I think her thread happened to be during a time when it was very ugly and nasty here.  Personal attacks were out of control and I think MT lost a lot of respect through it all. A lot of good people dropped off and I'll be willing to bet a lot of new good people avoided joining.   I'm not sure MT has completely regrouped after all that.  That time is like a big elephant in the room that may or may not be dead.   

But, I WILL give the political crap a huge HIGH FIVE for why people may be not be participating.  The same names chasing the same arguments round and round just doesn't invite conversation.



As for Fuzz being a good boy?  Hmmmm.  Now, THERE'S an elephant that may or may not be dead!
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Re: MEN Downsizing: Future of MT?
« Reply #37 on: November 13, 2011, 02:14:26 PM »

I don't know... I kind of think that the political bickering back and forth has contributed to the post count, rather than taking away from it, by driving others away.

Hard to say.
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Re: MEN Downsizing: Future of MT?
« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2011, 02:15:51 PM »

Wow, I guess if some folks can't get over something that happened years ago, maybe they're not cut out to chit chat with strangers online!

Not just a dead elephant, but a dead horse, too!!  ;D
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Re: MEN Downsizing: Future of MT?
« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2011, 02:36:06 PM »

The people who can't get over it have moved on.   Maybe they ARE the ones cut out for civil chit chat.   


Live, Tomato/Tomahto actually because the political crap usually turns personal.  Some people are energized by the personal attacks.  MOST are not. 

But, I still don't think Talks is going anywhere.  It's just fine.  Maybe not as exciting as some would want. FOR THE MOST PART, I think people just want civil discussions and often post harmless comments that may or may not rock the world or deserve Pulitzer Prizes. 





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Re: MEN Downsizing: Future of MT?
« Reply #40 on: November 13, 2011, 03:11:47 PM »

You can only talk about the weather for so long.
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Re: MEN Downsizing: Future of MT?
« Reply #41 on: November 13, 2011, 03:34:22 PM »

But, that's the great thing about this place.  If somebody wants to talk about the weather for days on end, they can do it. 

If they want to talk about sports, so be it.

If they want to play word games they do.

And, politics too.  The threads go on because some want them to. 


You join in with what interests you.  You don't bash anyone because it doesn't interest you, you just find something that does or you start a thread.


I can't stand the endless political fighting.  But, if it didn't interest anyone it would go away.  Unfortuntately, there are those who like it so it goes on.  (and on and on and on and on)


It's the people who comment about how bad it is here that sounds to me like they probably need to move on.  JMO
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Re: MEN Downsizing: Future of MT?
« Reply #42 on: November 13, 2011, 03:36:29 PM »

I don't know if the Nevaeh thread was a turning point.  Maybe.  I think her thread happened to be during a time when it was very ugly and nasty here.  Personal attacks were out of control and I think MT lost a lot of respect through it all. A lot of good people dropped off and I'll be willing to bet a lot of new good people avoided joining.   I'm not sure MT has completely regrouped after all that.  That time is like a big elephant in the room that may or may not be dead.   

But, I WILL give the political crap a huge HIGH FIVE for why people may be not be participating.  The same names chasing the same arguments round and round just doesn't invite conversation.



As for Fuzz being a good boy?  Hmmmm.  Now, THERE'S an elephant that may or may not be dead!
 ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D


I think the Nevaeh thread is an anomaly that really means not much in the long term.  The personal attacks in that topic were so far over the top that nothing can compare.  How many regular members were reported over and over and BANNED.  I know Fuzz and Fluffy were, and probably others.  It was gang up on someone and if they tried to respond they were reported until dead.  Frankly, it was sick.  I blocked the topic and it stayed that way.  It was an easy thing to do and anyone can.  Since every post you have made in this topic has complained of the politics topic, I suggest you just block it and only get other topics.

As far as “good people that did not join” I disagree.  The topic died down is all.  They were here for one flavor and when that flavor became stale they left for a new flavor.

Many years ago I was just a reader.  I read the topics and was discouraged that the politics topic was always of 7 or so regular posters doing personal attacks on FF (who responded in kind).  It was not “discussion” but rather always “pile on FF”.  My point is that it hasn’t gotten worse, just changed some.  However, the one thing that is certain, without the politics topic MT is very tiny. There just are not the posts to keep people coming back.  One day the past week I looked in toward evening and there were maybe 5 posts; for the entire day.  If people came here and could see 3 or 4 days of accumulated posts in “recent” they would not bother coming back.

Starting new topics is another I find interesting and have watched.  BRD starts a lot of topics and they are good reads.  He usually gets a high “read” count, and few, if any, responses.  Why is it that way?  My personal guess is that people read and agree, and therefore there is no compulsion to respond.

Politics is very far down on my personal list.  My first love is writing, closely followed by reading.  I spend a part of each day reading and learning.  It is just as much a need as is eating to me. However, that said, a great deal of my time is devoted to my family. My daughter is soon to graduate from Eastern and I have spent many hours helping her, sometimes with understanding, and sometimes just by being there.  I take care of my autistic grandson and with his mother and I spend a great deal of thought, study, and discussion working at some new problem to adapt to or find a way to correct.  So, parenting, autism, and family are always top of the list. Those topics are always going to get my first listen.  I am primary the cook (usually the only one), and sometimes the recipes are nice, but to be honest I shy from them because it is just a reminder of the burden of coming up with dinner again.

I guess my point is that all of those topics I prefer, but if there is a post, it is generally a read it one, and not something to comment on; whether that is my post, or someone else’s.

What I think would be good for MT is to post articles here instead of just a teaser at the news site, the whole article and let that generate talk.  People respond at the news site and on FB, but if it was here there might be a renewed interest in other kinds of posts as well.

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Re: MEN Downsizing: Future of MT?
« Reply #43 on: November 13, 2011, 03:39:00 PM »

But, that's the great thing about this place.  If somebody wants to talk about the weather for days on end, they can do it. 

If they want to talk about sports, so be it.

If they want to play word games they do.

And, politics too.  The threads go on because some want them to. 


You join in with what interests you.  You don't bash anyone because it doesn't interest you, you just find something that does or you start a thread.


I can't stand the endless political fighting.  But, if it didn't interest anyone it would go away.  Unfortuntately, there are those who like it so it goes on.  (and on and on and on and on)


It's the people who comment about how bad it is here that sounds to me like they probably need to move on.  JMO
If it is okay, then why has every post on this topic been critical of one topic?  Just block it already.
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Re: MEN Downsizing: Future of MT?
« Reply #44 on: November 13, 2011, 03:54:30 PM »

I just jumped onto FaceBook a year or so ago.  Very avid poster there back then, as I was here when I first joined.


In both cases, as the novelty wears off, so too does the posting.  When topics or discussions hit close to home, you post more.

I end up lurking on MT more and more, both logged in or as a Guest, since lately the topics don't compell me to post.  I try to follow 2 simple rules (I didn't always follow in the past, BTW):
a) Don't post just to hear yourself talk, or see your name in print
b) When a post strikes you too close, too emotionally..allow 24 hrs. to pass before responding.

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