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ussoccer26

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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2011, 11:16:22 PM »

Waste you say?

And what about waste?



Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide. – John Adams (1814)

Thanks to the 14th and 17th Amendments we now live in a Democracy and not the Republic our Founders died for and we crushed. The greed of the People and the rape of the Public Treasury has murdered what they created for OUR benefit. We didn't let it die from neglect, our crime is worse, we murdered it. People scream about corporate greed these days. We created it, we wanted it, we voted it for ourselves. Willingly.  :-\
In ignorance most can deny, but the Law will not allow, the fact that there is a big difference between the united States of America, and the United States of America.

Waste you say?


It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money. – P.J. O'Rourke

Waste you say?

A vote is "wasted" when someone fails to vote their conscience. – Jesse Ventura

 Democracy has proved only that the best way to gain power over people is to assure the people that they are ruling themselves. Once they believe that, they make wonderfully submissive slaves. – Joseph Sobran in The Myth of 'Limited Government'

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe





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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2011, 04:29:53 AM »

Sure.  Go ahead and waste your vote.

A vote for Obama is a wasted vote.

Ron Paul is the ONLY hope this country has to survive.
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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2011, 07:46:06 PM »

Has everyone forgot about Fort Knox and this countries hoarded gold...?

Apparently nobody cares that Ft. Knox is quite devoid of "hoarded gold," as it was all handed-over to the International Banksters a very long time ago. The "country" (sic) is as bankrupt as it's predecessor and beholden to the banksters to keep the debits & credits game going, lest it too fail, which it will, and even Ron Paul can't delay that eventuality.
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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2011, 09:55:43 PM »

A vote for Obama is a wasted vote.

Ron Paul is the ONLY hope this country has to survive.

I love political hyperbole. It's my stock and trade.

A VOTE FOR OBAMA IS A VOTE FOR KENYAN HITLER

A VOTE FOR ROMNEY/GINGRICHBOT IS THE SAME AS EATING YOUR CHILDREN.

Crazy Uncle Paul has no chance at winning. None. Zero. Zilch. He isn't a top-tier candidate. He's being out-funded, out-mediaed, and out-exposed. He's dunzo mahoney.

So count your country doomed now. I hear Canada is accepting people with vocational trades.
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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2011, 10:13:56 PM »

I love political hyperbole. It's my stock and trade.

A VOTE FOR OBAMA IS A VOTE FOR KENYAN HITLER

A VOTE FOR ROMNEY/GINGRICHBOT IS THE SAME AS EATING YOUR CHILDREN.

Crazy Uncle Paul has no chance at winning. None. Zero. Zilch. He isn't a top-tier candidate. He's being out-funded, out-mediaed, and out-exposed. He's dunzo mahoney.

So count your country doomed now. I hear Canada is accepting people with vocational trades.

Out funded by whom?

Who gets the most funds from active duty military?
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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2011, 10:52:35 PM »

Out funded by... his opponents?
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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2011, 11:07:26 PM »


So count your country doomed now.

I already have.
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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2011, 11:14:26 PM »

Out funded by whom?

Who gets the most funds from active duty military?

So the people getting shot at and dodging IED's give a few bucks from their paltry salaries to the candidate that says he'll get them the heck out of there ASAP?  

What's that prove?

Who do you think Tim McVeigh would support if he were still around?

A not-so-bright, easily impressionable, ex-military, anti-government, conspiracy-theorizing guy like him would certainly be a passionate Ron Paul supporter.  Sound familiar?
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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2011, 11:16:07 PM »

Out funded by... his opponents?

Check again.
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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2011, 11:19:29 PM »

So the people getting shot at and dodging IED's give a few bucks from their paltry salaries to the candidate that says he'll get them the heck out of there ASAP?

Yep.

What's that prove?

They know their oath and how they are gettin hosed.

Who do you think Tim McVeigh would support if he were still around?

Nope.

A not-so-bright, easily impressionable, ex-military, anti-government, conspiracy-theorizing guy like him would certainly be a passionate Ron Paul supporter.  Sound familiar?

Yep.
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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2011, 02:35:23 PM »

Fluffy,

You ask how "How does he, or you, propose to go to the "gold or silver" standard".

Very simple, reverse the legislation (TWEA) that allowed our government to SIEZE our constitutional money and replace it fiat currency.

You may want to listen to Ann, she is quite eloquent in her explanation of what is currently taking place in our financial markets.

http://www.netcastdaily.com/broadcast/fsn2011-1201-1.asx
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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2011, 02:56:32 PM »

Fluffy,

You ask how "How does he, or you, propose to go to the "gold or silver" standard".

Very simple, reverse the legislation (TWEA) that allowed our government to SIEZE our constitutional money and replace it fiat currency.
Riiiiigght. And then what? If someone has a million dollars of "fiat" currency in the bank, how does that get transformed into "constitutional" money?

That isn't "very simple".
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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2011, 03:23:38 PM »

Fluffy,

You ask how "How does he, or you, propose to go to the "gold or silver" standard".

Very simple, reverse the legislation (TWEA) that allowed our government to SIEZE our constitutional money and replace it fiat currency.

You may want to listen to Ann, she is quite eloquent in her explanation of what is currently taking place in our financial markets.

http://www.netcastdaily.com/broadcast/fsn2011-1201-1.asx

Ah yes the same old schtick.... Vote for Ron Paul and gas will be $0.25/gal again bread a nickle, and your quarters will make a lovely ting when they hit the table.

You folks live in a dream world.  You think you are just going to hand the Federal Reserve all its fiat back and print "constitutional money" based on the gold reserves at current market prices.  Then what the price of everything drops 90% automatically?  How you gonna make that happen?  How will people ever pay off their $70K mortgage when they suddenly are making $2 an hour?  WAKE UP!!!
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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2011, 04:06:12 PM »

Fluffy,

It is very simple.

When the government seized the constitutional money in 1933 an oz of gold was $20 per 1oz coin. When the government seized the gold coin and replaced it with fiat currency the person forced to turn in the gold coin was given approx $20.35 in printed money backed by the individuals promise to perform. BTW, after the government seized our constitutional money it then raised the price of gold to $35 per oz, this devalued the fiat replacement dollar by about 60%. The people lost again.

Now if a person turns in 1 million dollars of fiat currency it can be converted to U.S. gold coin with a gold price set by congress as stated in our constitution. So if congress sets the price of gold at $100 U.S. dollars per oz the person would receive 1000 1oz gold pieces. The U.S. and world markets will adjust, as long as we do not institute fractional reserve banking to a ridiculous degree our economy will soar. 

Trying to continue a broken fiat currency model is ignorant. The people always lose when we allow the bankers to regulate interest rates, this is hidden inflation that cost the people dearly. With a fixed assest based currency the people retain control of the value of it's currency, NOT THE BANKS!
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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2011, 04:16:12 PM »

JBS,

I feel sorry for you, you really need to learn the law of supply and demand. Keysian economics is giving this nation its final death bed and again you are proving to the readers that you are lost on the subject of a constitutionaly limited republic.

I wish this financial mess was a "dream". It appears you missed the class on the constitution and constitutional money, but then again I don't think they teach that at our public schools anymore, it would give up the great gig the private bankers (Fed Reserve) has.

Ron Paul will bring in an honest currency that BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE NOT THE PRIVATE BANKERS that have stolen this country right out from under it's citizens!
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