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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #300 on: April 15, 2012, 02:24:30 PM »

...at least the Ron Paul HATERS on this forum would gladly admit my candidate's policy positions and disgust with out-of-control government STARTED the Tea Party movement...not "Republicans" or conservative media pundits!

It's good to be included with the onus of the WINNING side that will inevitably shape our political landscape as the unsustainable will collapse under the weight of it's own perpetual snowballing deceit and malfeasance. ;)

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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #301 on: April 15, 2012, 02:37:21 PM »

...at least the Ron Paul HATERS on this forum would gladly admit my candidate's policy positions and disgust with out-of-control government STARTED the Tea Party movement...not "Republicans" or conservative media pundits!

It's good to be included with the onus of the WINNING side that will inevitably shape our political landscape as the unsustainable will collapse under the weight of it's own perpetual snowballing deceit and malfeasance. ;)
The Tea Party movement (TPM) is an American populist political movement that is generally recognized as conservative and libertarian, and has sponsored protests and supported political candidates since 2009.[6][7][8] It endorses reduced government spending, opposition to excess taxation, reduction of the national debt and federal budget deficit, and adherence to an originalist interpretation of the United States Constitution.

The Tea Party movement has been cited as an example of grassroots political activity, although it has also been described as an example of astroturfing.

The Tea Party movement is not a national political party; polls show that most Tea Partiers consider themselves to be Republicans and the movement's supporters have tended to endorse Republican candidates. Commentators, including Gallup editor-in-chief Frank Newport, have suggested that the movement is not a new political group but simply a rebranding of traditional Republican candidates and policies. An October 2010 Washington Post canvass of local Tea Party organizers found 87% saying "dissatisfaction with mainstream Republican Party leaders" was "an important factor in the support the group has received so far".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement

History of the Tea Party Movement
CNBC's Rick Santelli is widely credited with launching the grassroots movement. While standing on the floor of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange on February 19, 2009, he unleashed what can only be called a rant against the Obama Administration's proposal to help homeowners facing foreclosure refinance their mortgages.

Read more: History of the Tea Party Movement — Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/us/government/tea-party-history.html#ixzz1s8SFSNXL

Apr 15, 2012 7:00am
Tea Party Movement Looks Stalled; Half Like it Less as they Hear More
Wither the Tea Party?

A major force in the 2010 midterm elections, the movement has stalled in public popularity, its support well below a majority and decidedly lukewarm. And Americans by a broad 23-point margin say the more they hear about the Tea Party movement, the less they like it, rather than liking it more.

That negative buzz has worsened from a 9-point gap in an ABC News/Washington Post poll as the movement was gathering speed two years ago. And its avenues for resurgence may be limited: Interest in learning more about Tea Party is down 7 points from spring 2010.

This poll, produced for ABC by Langer Research Associates, finds that six in 10 Americans aren’t particularly interested in additional information about the Tea Party, and 41 percent aren’t interested “at all.” Thirty-nine percent have at least some interest, but just 9 percent are very interested. Among those with interest, moreover, more than six in 10 already support it.

See PDF with full results and charts here

All told, 41 percent of Americans identify themselves as supporters of the movement, compared with a high of 47 percent last September. Forty-five percent oppose it; 14 percent have no opinion. Support has dropped disproportionately among young adults in that period, down 20 points from 51 percent to 31 percent.

While overall support is roughly balanced with overall opposition, “strong” opponents outnumber strong supporters by 2-1. But perhaps most damaging is the buzz: Fifty percent of Americans say the more they hear about the Tea Party, the less they like it; just 27 percent say they like it more. That compares with a much closer (albeit still negative) 43-34 percent split on this question in April 2010.

These views have grown more negative particularly among young adults, seniors, women, moderates and people in the $50,000 to $100,000 income range, all with 10- to 17-point increases in “like it less” responses as they hear more about the Tea Party movement.

PRIMARIES – Tea Party supporters, of course, were far more prevalent in the Republican presidential primaries than they are in the nation’s population as a whole. In exit polls, 60 percent of Republican primary voters identified themselves as Tea Party supporters. Twenty-six percent were neutral, while just 11 percent said they were opponents of the movement.

Strong supporters of the movement looked decidedly different from its less-committed backers. Among strong Tea Party supporters in the primaries, Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum ran almost evenly, 33-31 percent. Romney, by contrast, beat Santorum by 42-27 percent among voters who support the movement only “somewhat.” In most states where Santorum won strong Tea Party supporters, he won the states overall – Louisiana, Alabama, Oklahoma, Tennessee and Iowa. In two others he came close, Ohio and Michigan.

ECONOMY – Part of the movement’s dilemma is the extent to which its support is an expression of economic discontent, given the improvement in consumer sentiment this year.

Today the movement’s support is 22 points higher among people who think the economy is not improving, 18 points higher among those who say it’s very difficult to find jobs in their area and 15 points higher among people who think the recession has not yet ended, compared with others. To the extent it represents an economic protest movement, gains in the economy overall, and the job market in particular, work to the Tea Party’s detriment.

On one basic economic attitude, additionally, the movement finds itself at a disadvantage. It wins support from just 24 percent of Americans who are chiefly concerned about unfairness in the economic system that favors the wealthy, vs. a much broader 69 percent support among those who see a bigger problem in over-regulation of the free market that interferes with growth and prosperity. The challenge is that more are concerned about fairness, by a 15-point margin.

… AND IDEOLOGY – A related problem for the movement (as with Santorum’s candidacy for the Republican presidential nomination) reflects its difficulties moving beyond its ideological and partisan base.

Within the Republican Party, Tea Party support peaks at 88 percent among conservative Republicans, with 32 percent “strongly” supportive. That declines to 69 percent of Republicans who do not describe themselves as “very” conservative – and notably, in this group, just 16 percent are strong Tea Party supporters. The movement also is backed by 64 percent of evangelical white Protestants.

Support is much lower outside the GOP and in non-conservative groups – 44 percent among independents, 40 percent among white Protestants who are not evangelical, 37 percent among moderates, 19 percent among Democrats and 18 percent among liberals.

The movement, as noted, has a decided intensity deficit: Strong opposition among critics far outstrips strong support among backers. Among all Republicans, for example, 23 percent strongly support the Tea Party, while a greater share of Democrats, 48 percent, strongly oppose it. And while it’s strongly supported by 32 percent of conservative Republicans, the movement is strongly opposed by a much larger share of liberal Democrats, 62 percent. The two groups are similar in size.

There are other gaps among groups, if not as wide. The Tea Party has a gender gap, with 13 points more support from men than from women. And it does best with 30- to 49-year-olds, tailing off with under-30s and those 50 and older alike.

METHODOLOGY – This ABC News/Washington Post poll was conducted by telephone April 5-8, 2012, among a random national sample of 1,003 adults, including landline and cell-phone-only respondents. Results have a margin of sampling error of 4 points for the full sample. The survey was produced for ABC News by Langer Research Associates of New York, N.Y., with sampling, data collection and tabulation by Abt-SRBI of New York, N.Y.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/04/tea-party-movement-looks-stalled-half-like-it-less-as-they-hear-more/
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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #302 on: April 17, 2012, 07:58:28 PM »

30 seconds.

Ron Paul flaming Romney!

Yeah man!

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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #303 on: April 20, 2012, 02:36:31 PM »

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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #304 on: April 20, 2012, 02:46:22 PM »

30 seconds, Round 2.

Mitt Romney vs. Ron Paul, Round 2: Congressional Approval For War

Hahaha, why don't we just open up the constitution and read it. Like anyone other than Ron Paul has read it.
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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #305 on: April 23, 2012, 11:51:12 AM »

This is what you have to do with the Republicans, they still don't get it.

US Marines Major Christopher Miller, Ron Paul 2012 delegate
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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #306 on: April 24, 2012, 11:42:16 AM »

Hey, funny thing about the media talking about Romney vs Obama. Why not Paul vs Obama? This race ain't over baby.

"I Think Ron Paul Just Won Iowa!" Rachel Maddow April 23, 2012
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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #307 on: April 24, 2012, 11:48:51 AM »

Hey Smash...did you miss the remarks about Democrats and Obama garbage?  Oh....yeah I guess you picked out one word (Republican) and missed all the rest.
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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #308 on: April 24, 2012, 11:54:07 AM »

Hey Smash...did you miss the remarks about Democrats and Obama garbage?  Oh....yeah I guess you picked out one word (Republican) and missed all the rest.

It was at a GOP congressional district convention first off, and second the point is there is no difference between Romney and Obama. They both run on the same platform. Sounds like you were the one that wasn't listening.
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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #309 on: April 24, 2012, 01:02:24 PM »

That about sums it up.
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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #310 on: April 24, 2012, 01:21:34 PM »

This race ain't over baby.

I admire the zeal of Ron Paul supporters and I count several as good friends.
But, honestly, it's over.
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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #311 on: April 24, 2012, 01:58:38 PM »

I admire the zeal of Ron Paul supporters and I count several as good friends.
But, honestly, it's over.
I think President Harding would disagree with you?

He went to Convention with the least amount of delegates and won the nomination on the TENTH ballot!


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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #312 on: April 24, 2012, 02:14:34 PM »

I guess the title of this topic would be best aimed directly at Republicans.

I have heard from many of them all they want to do is beat Obama.
I have heard from them the only way to do it is with Party Unity.

I guess unity behind a guy who has no chance of beating Obama?

The Democrats can't wait to sink their teeth into the soft pink meat of Romney.

I think is would be appropriate on this tenth anniversary of one of Ron Pauls speeches in Congress for Republicans to reflect on what they have done, and have helped Obama do over the past decade.

You see Ron Paul supporters will not vote for anyone else but Ron Paul, and you can not win anything without us.

Why? Because we will take the moderates, the anti-war left, and the disaffected Obama voters with us. They will not vote for Romney, and you guys know it.

So let's take a few minutes and reflect on the last four years of the Obama and Republican alliance.

Ron Paul - Predictions For A Not So Distant Future
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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #313 on: April 24, 2012, 06:05:52 PM »

I think President Harding would disagree with you?

He went to Convention with the least amount of delegates and won the nomination on the TENTH ballot!

I admire your devotion to Mr. Paul.  However; the only time I ever hear this brokered convention stuff is from Paul supporters.
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Re: Why not Ron Paul, exactly?
« Reply #314 on: April 24, 2012, 06:39:59 PM »

I guess the title of this topic would be best aimed directly at Republicans.

I have heard from many of them all they want to do is beat Obama.
I have heard from them the only way to do it is with Party Unity.

I guess unity behind a guy who has no chance of beating Obama?

The Democrats can't wait to sink their teeth into the soft pink meat of Romney.

I think is would be appropriate on this tenth anniversary of one of Ron Pauls speeches in Congress for Republicans to reflect on what they have done, and have helped Obama do over the past decade.

You see Ron Paul supporters will not vote for anyone else but Ron Paul, and you can not win anything without us.

Why? Because we will take the moderates, the anti-war left, and the disaffected Obama voters with us. They will not vote for Romney, and you guys know it.

So let's take a few minutes and reflect on the last four years of the Obama and Republican alliance.

Ron Paul - Predictions For A Not So Distant Future
Looks like you just said what a lot of us have been saying for months;Obama wins again! All you Paul supporters can be very proud of yourselves!
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