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Letter from Freed Slave to Former Master
« on: February 02, 2012, 10:02:20 AM »

In honor of Black History Month, I thought this letter is worth sharing. I don't know whether or not it's authentic, and even Snopes hasn't said definitively. There's a discussion there with links to evidence that says it's the real deal (http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=45660). If it is, it's pretty awesome!

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Dayton, Ohio,

August 7, 1865

To My Old Master, Colonel P.H. Anderson, Big Spring, Tennessee

Sir: I got your letter, and was glad to find that you had not forgotten Jourdon, and that you wanted me to come back and live with you again, promising to do better for me than anybody else can. I have often felt uneasy about you. I thought the Yankees would have hung you long before this, for harboring Rebs they found at your house. I suppose they never heard about your going to Colonel Martin's to kill the Union soldier that was left by his company in their stable. Although you shot at me twice before I left you, I did not want to hear of your being hurt, and am glad you are still living. It would do me good to go back to the dear old home again, and see Miss Mary and Miss Martha and Allen, Esther, Green, and Lee. Give my love to them all, and tell them I hope we will meet in the better world, if not in this. I would have gone back to see you all when I was working in the Nashville Hospital, but one of the neighbors told me that Henry intended to shoot me if he ever got a chance.

I want to know particularly what the good chance is you propose to give me. I am doing tolerably well here. I get twenty-five dollars a month, with victuals and clothing; have a comfortable home for Mandy,—the folks call her Mrs. Anderson,—and the children—Milly, Jane, and Grundy—go to school and are learning well. The teacher says Grundy has a head for a preacher. They go to Sunday school, and Mandy and me attend church regularly. We are kindly treated. Sometimes we overhear others saying, "Them colored people were slaves" down in Tennessee. The children feel hurt when they hear such remarks; but I tell them it was no disgrace in Tennessee to belong to Colonel Anderson. Many darkeys would have been proud, as I used to be, to call you master. Now if you will write and say what wages you will give me, I will be better able to decide whether it would be to my advantage to move back again.

As to my freedom, which you say I can have, there is nothing to be gained on that score, as I got my free papers in 1864 from the Provost-Marshal-General of the Department of Nashville. Mandy says she would be afraid to go back without some proof that you were disposed to treat us justly and kindly; and we have concluded to test your sincerity by asking you to send us our wages for the time we served you. This will make us forget and forgive old scores, and rely on your justice and friendship in the future. I served you faithfully for thirty-two years, and Mandy twenty years. At twenty-five dollars a month for me, and two dollars a week for Mandy, our earnings would amount to eleven thousand six hundred and eighty dollars. Add to this the interest for the time our wages have been kept back, and deduct what you paid for our clothing, and three doctor's visits to me, and pulling a tooth for Mandy, and the balance will show what we are in justice entitled to. Please send the money by Adams's Express, in care of V. Winters, Esq., Dayton, Ohio. If you fail to pay us for faithful labors in the past, we can have little faith in your promises in the future. We trust the good Maker has opened your eyes to the wrongs which you and your fathers have done to me and my fathers, in making us toil for you for generations without recompense. Here I draw my wages every Saturday night; but in Tennessee there was never any pay-day for the negroes any more than for the horses and cows. Surely there will be a day of reckoning for those who defraud the laborer of his hire.

In answering this letter, please state if there would be any safety for my Milly and Jane, who are now grown up, and both good-looking girls. You know how it was with poor Matilda and Catherine. I would rather stay here and starve—and die, if it come to that—than have my girls brought to shame by the violence and wickedness of their young masters. You will also please state if there has been any schools opened for the colored children in your neighborhood. The great desire of my life now is to give my children an education, and have them form virtuous habits.

Say howdy to George Carter, and thank him for taking the pistol from you when you were shooting at me.

From your old servant,

Jourdon Anderson.
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Re: Letter from Freed Slave to Former Master
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2012, 10:23:09 AM »

I just found this...  playing it right now so not sure if it has anything "extreme" in it:

Letter from freed slave to former master draws attention
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Re: Letter from Freed Slave to Former Master
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2012, 10:27:09 AM »

It's not real... 8*

Still, I guess it's worth a giggle, being that it's Black history month...
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Re: Letter from Freed Slave to Former Master
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2012, 10:39:57 AM »

Dude in the video says if black people want reparations they "must be willing to kill for it." Yikes!!!

Fortunately, I don't think that's a mainstream belief. 

Baggins, how do you know it isn't real? I couldn't find anything to say otherwise. I do believe Mr Anderson had a co-author, but who's to say it's not authentic? Just curious.
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Re: Letter from Freed Slave to Former Master
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2012, 10:41:50 AM »

Just realized I POSTED IN THE WRONG CATEGORY!!!! GAHHHHH!!!! I meant to put it in Miscellaneous. Sorry folks!!  :-[
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Re: Letter from Freed Slave to Former Master
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2012, 11:00:26 AM »

Just realized I POSTED IN THE WRONG CATEGORY!!!! GAHHHHH!!!! I meant to put it in Miscellaneous. Sorry folks!!  :-[

I guess you were thinking it wasn't authentic either 8* 8* 8*
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Re: Letter from Freed Slave to Former Master
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2012, 11:52:46 AM »

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Baggins, how do you know it isn't real? I couldn't find anything to say otherwise. I do believe Mr Anderson had a co-author, but who's to say t's not authentic? Just curious.

Not out of any fact, just the feeling I get from reading it...It's too well written, too polite and too convenient...I'm not going to argue over it...There's just too much fantasy in it all for me to take seriously...For all I "know" it could be real, but it could be just as easily fluff for Black History month or just a good old fashion feel good story of the past.  Just as you say, who's to know if it's not authentic, who's to say it is...All I can find about this Colonel is the story of the letter, no proof there.

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Re: Letter from Freed Slave to Former Master
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2012, 08:56:22 PM »

Dude in the video says if black people want reparations they "must be willing to kill for it." Yikes!!!

Fortunately, I don't think that's a mainstream belief. 

Then you know nothing of "mainsteam black" thought processes...and should keep your errant opinions for a more receptive audience.  I've heard the insane asylums are looking for volunteers!
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Re: Letter from Freed Slave to Former Master
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2012, 10:27:06 PM »

From Snopes:

Well, it's authentic at least in the sense that it did appear in several U.S. newspapers in the last third of 1865. I've uploaded a copy of the letter as it appeared in The New York Daily Tribune (as well as a page view so that you can see the masthead) on August 22 (p. 7), which represents the earliest printing I've found. (I don't have access to The Cincinnati Commercial before 1867.) For comparison, the letter also appeared in The Agitator [Wellsboro, Pennsylvania] on October 25, 1865.

I don't really think this letter is a fabrication, but I do suspect that Anderson's letter was likely a collaborative effort between the former slave and a party seeking to give support to the post-war freedmen's movement (hence its relatively rapid appearance in The Cincinnati Commercial). Whether this help entailed simply transcribing Anderson's reply or whether this person assisted in reworking the letter (possibly with Anderson's knowledge) is unclear. (Again, I'd be interested to see the first letter, presumably sent by Col. P.H. Anderson of Big Spring, Tennessee.)

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a319/Cackalacky/Page.jpg

As further support of the authenticity of the letter and its contents, I direct the reader to the 1870, 1880, and 1900 federal censii for Dayton, Ohio which show Jordan Anderson (b Dec 1825 in Tennessee) in a household with his wife Amanda (b Oct 1829 in Tennessee). In the 1870 census, five years after the letter was published, they were listed with four of their children -- 19 year-old Jane, 12 year-old Felix (Grundy?), 5 year-old William, and 1 year-old Andrew. Over the years, Amanda had had eleven children, only six of whom were still living in 1900. Three of the children we were living with them 1900, including their 29 year-old son Valentine, a physician. In the years of the censii, Jordan lists himself as hostler, a coachman, and a butler. He cannot read or write, and Amanda can only read, but all of his children attend school in the records shown.

Patrick Henry Anderson Sr., born 1823 in Tennessee, merchant and farmer of Wilson County, Tennessee, appears in the federal censii of 1850 and 1860, with his wife Mary Ann, and his children Patrick Henry Jr., Martha, Pauldin, Timis, Edgar Poe (Allen?), and Mary. The slave schedules of 1860 show him as the owner of thirty-two slaves, including a 34 year-old male who could be Jordan. There's a three-year old boy who could be Felix and a ten year old girl who could be Jane, but Amanda doesn't seem to be in the list, unless her age has been mis-recorded. As genealogists will know, slave schedules did not include the names of the slaves, just their age, sex, and whether they were black or mulatto (of mixed ancestry). Notably, seven of the slaves, all of them minors, were listed as mulatto, however the distribution of ages of slaves (in particular the lack of female slaves of the correct age to be mothers) suggest that many of the younger slaves came from different owners originally.

According to other published and online records of his family tree, P.H. Anderson died in 1867. His son, P.H. Jr, the Henry mentioned in the letter, appears in censii in Wilson County as late as 1880.

There are multiple George Carters in Wilson County in the period in question, but the likely one is a carpenter who appears in censii in 1850, 1860, and 1870 in the same township as the Andersons. Before the war he owned two slaves, and each was mulatto.
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Re: Letter from Freed Slave to Former Master
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2012, 12:32:34 AM »

Then you know nothing of "mainsteam black" thought processes...and should keep your errant opinions for a more receptive audience.  I've heard the insane asylums are looking for volunteers!
That was more rude than entertaining.

Perhaps you'd care to share some of your intimate knowledge about the "thought processes" of mainstream blacks.

Although it's my understanding that you're a white boy so maybe Sammy could help you refine your theories....well I'm not really sure but I believe he can speak Ebonics.
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