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Re: Detroit Tigers 2012
« Reply #210 on: October 13, 2012, 11:40:34 PM »

Papa Gone-de... blew another big 9th inning lead

Sick...
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Re: Detroit Tigers 2012
« Reply #211 on: October 13, 2012, 11:48:54 PM »

I've had it with him!

Won't have to worry about those stupid theatrics next season.
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« Reply #212 on: October 14, 2012, 07:58:43 AM »

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Re: Detroit Tigers 2012
« Reply #213 on: October 14, 2012, 09:16:01 AM »

Smyly gets my vote for the closer - rest of the series run!
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Re: Detroit Tigers 2012
« Reply #214 on: October 14, 2012, 10:14:41 AM »

I agree Prof......I'd go a step further and use Dotel as the set up guy in replacement of Benoit.

Valverde and Benoit just scare the hell out of me with their performance over the last few weeks.  Unpredictable as a woman.   ;)
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Re: Detroit Tigers 2012
« Reply #215 on: October 14, 2012, 10:55:41 AM »

Did anyone else think that the home plate umpire was highly inconsistent with the strike zone last night in New York?
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Re: Detroit Tigers 2012
« Reply #216 on: October 14, 2012, 11:24:55 AM »

Did anyone else think that the home plate umpire was highly inconsistent with the strike zone last night in New York?

No doubt.....could be seen on that pitch location screen.
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Re: Detroit Tigers 2012
« Reply #217 on: October 14, 2012, 03:00:39 PM »

No doubt.....could be seen on that pitch location screen.

I thought the pitch location screen was way off, has been on every game on TBS.

THe ump I thought was "fair" both ways at least but yes very inconsistent.
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Re: Detroit Tigers 2012
« Reply #218 on: October 14, 2012, 03:10:54 PM »

Umps were consistent,

the announcers weren't...  It was like the Yankee announcers were in the booth.

I'll have to get the radio out for today's game and turn down the Volume on the TV
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Re: Detroit Tigers 2012
« Reply #219 on: October 14, 2012, 03:32:10 PM »

I thought the pitch location screen was way off, has been on every game on TBS.

THe ump I thought was "fair" both ways at least but yes very inconsistent.

OK, as usual, I call BS.

Citation needed......3 sites I pulled up after searching that say nothing.
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Re: Detroit Tigers 2012
« Reply #220 on: October 14, 2012, 03:58:33 PM »

While CK is trying to dig up information that doesn't exist, thought this may be a relief to some.

Tigers' Jim Leyland temporarily removes Jose Valverde as closer



NEW YORK -- Detroit Tigers manager Jim Leyland said today that he has temporarily taken struggling Jose Valverde out of the closer’s role.

Leyland said he still considers Valverde the closer, but he gave no timetable for his return to the role.

He acknowledged that it can be especially tough to put a struggling closer back in that role in the postseason because there is so little margin for error in a short series.

Leyland named no full-time replacement as closer. To do so would be to take another reliever out of his current role, and he doesn’t want to impose that automatic disruption on the bullpen. He said he will wait and see how the game goes.

For example, he might need Phil Coke to get a left-handed hitter out in the seventh. But if Coke is available in the ninth, he theoretically could close.

Leyland emphasized that Valverde remains a viable member of the 11-man pitching staff, expected to contribute in some way.

“We can’t go with a 10-man pitching staff,” Leyland said. “We need Jose Valverde.”

Because of that, it makes no sense to deflate Valverde’s confidence by saying he’ll never close again in this postseason.

Valverde has given up the last seven runs allowed by the Tigers -- three in his blown save on Wednesday night in Oakland, and four in his relinquishing of a four-run lead in the ninth on Saturday. Despite those performances, the Tigers won the series in Oakland and won Saturday night’s Game 1.

"In my heart, I definitely believed was a perfect time to get him right back to the mound with the little extra comfort of a four-run lead," Leyland said. "Obviously, it didn't work. I was wrong."

Leyland said Valverde’s delivery is too slow and that he will work with pitching coach Jeff Jones on that. Leyland also said Valverde “looks like he expects something bad to happen.”

But Leyland emphasized that Valverde has blown only five regular-season saves over the last two seasons. All those came this year after his perfect 49-for-49 last year.

Valverde then saved three more games in the playoffs, including the epic Game 5 at Yankee Stadium. After that game, Leyland said he wanted to kiss Valverde.

Today at Yankee Stadium, Leyland had to demote him.

Contact John Lowe: 313-223-4053 or jlowe@freepress.com. Follow him on Twitter @freeptigers.
Tigers lineup for today's Game 2

CF Austin Jackson

LF Quintin Berry

3B Miguel Cabrera

1B Prince Fielder

DH Delmon Young

RF Andy Dirks

SS Jhonny Peralta

C Alex Avila

2B Omar Infante

P Anibal Sanchez
Yankees lineup

LF Ichiro Suzuki

2B Robinson Cano

1B Mark Teixeira

DH Raul Ibanez

C Russell Martin

3B Alex Rodriguez

CF Curtis Granderson

RF Nick Swisher

SS Jayson Nix

P Hiroki Kuroda
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Re: Detroit Tigers 2012
« Reply #221 on: October 14, 2012, 07:35:05 PM »




What a novel Idea - leave a pitcher in the game who is pitching well instead of the automatic moves that managers do...
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Re: Detroit Tigers 2012
« Reply #222 on: October 14, 2012, 08:02:05 PM »

Yea, agree.  He has one of the hot hands....keep them warm.

Will be curious to see just how much trouble Leyland will let Valverde in before pulling him.
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Re: Detroit Tigers 2012
« Reply #223 on: October 14, 2012, 10:11:42 PM »

He may perform better at home - but Coke looks so much better as a closer than either of the two we have been seeing lately!
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Re: Detroit Tigers 2012
« Reply #224 on: October 15, 2012, 12:36:45 PM »

My impression... Coke was applying for the closer position.  He went out and said... that spot is open and look I got the stuff to fill it.

The admittedly bad call at second didn't matter.  That goose egg of the Yankees said it all.  Had they gotten a run THEN it might have mattered, but as it stood the original 1-0 score stood.

Sanchez did good.


Peralta showed he actually CAN play short stop well if he wants.
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