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[BigRedDog]

Now this is obviously an 'opinion' article...

and I certainly don't agree with all the points it contains...

but it certainly presents some great questions for both Republicans and Democrats!

http://www.mlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/02/why_is_michigan_slipping_away.html

[family man]

Because of these 4 words:

"Let Detroit go bankrupt".

[Will Sweat]

Because of these 4 words:

"Let Detroit go bankrupt".

I think you underestimate the power of people to remember that it was GOP Pres. Bush that began the Auto Bailout and his administration that structured the loans with TARP Funds.  That aside - the article is focused on the GOP and not one candidate said. 

My opinion - simple; SOCIAL ISSUES.  I do not believe that the GOP can win Michigan or anyother moderate state continuing to ride the "social issue" bandwagon.  Enough - please stay out of my bedroom, my church and allow me to enjoy the freedoms under the constitution.  Until the GOP does this - I believe - they will continue to flounder. 

[Baggins]

I think you underestimate the power of people to remember that it was GOP Pres. Bush that began the Auto Bailout and his administration that structured the loans with TARP Funds.  That aside - the article is focused on the GOP and not one candidate said. 

My opinion - simple; SOCIAL ISSUES.  I do not believe that the GOP can win Michigan or anyother moderate state continuing to ride the "social issue" bandwagon.  Enough - please stay out of my bedroom, my church and allow me to enjoy the freedoms under the constitution.  Until the GOP does this - I believe - they will continue to flounder.

It's true the bailouts were initiated by the Bush administration...BUT, Mitt Romney was dead set against doing for the auto industry what he supported for the banks, sorry but I believe that is note worthy, do to the fact Romney is going for the GOP nomination...He personally has no chance in Michigan whether or not a native!

I agree that it comes down to the social issues, which Santorum and Gingrich both are hard line followers of the personal control freaks...I won't even mention poor Ron Paul...

[ducksoup]

This Republican primary is..... well, different than any other I have seen.

I see three primary reasons for it being different.  One is that you have a field of weak candidates.  Two: One candidate has the best chance of competing against Obama, but is a moderate.  Three: the teas.

As far as one, well, sometimes that happens. 

The teas have been touted and promoted by the media and many R’s as a powerful group.  I am not saying that they are not, but the representation that they are a much bigger share of the population is the problem.  Depending of the study, it seems that the teas are maybe 4% of the voters, yet the media portrays them as a major faction of the R party.  By how much they are represented by pols or in the media one would think that they are more like 50% of the voting public.

That, I think, is the problem.  The candidates think that too.  Each seems to want to outdo the other on how far to the right they are and how radically they are that.

So, you have the mainstream R’s, that are not teas, voting for the best candidate to beat the President, and the small faction wanting a radical that cannot and would not appeal to the moderates/independents. 

Anyway, it is my opinion that the overselling of the strength and size of the teas is the reason for the problems.

One other thing.  I am not in favor of crossing over and messing with the R’s.  I remember the last Presidential election where the right wing talking heads, primarily Rush Limberger, saw Clinton as the primary winner and told his dittoheads to go vote Obama to make it harder for her.  I still wonder how the R’s that did his bidding feel about Obama winning.  So, I think it a bad and dangerous thing.

[Baggins]

People like Rush should be muzzled, freedom of speech is one thing, freedom to spew hate filled garbage rhetoric is another...The guy is a pure form of toxic trash...

[Baby Hitler]

People like Rush should be muzzled, freedom of speech is one thing, freedom to spew hate filled garbage rhetoric is another...He guy is a pure form of toxic trash...

The Republicans during the last election, stated that if Obama was elected, that the first thing he'd do is silence Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. They also promised that he'd do a lot of other things, like he'd take our guns away, (even though it is now legal to carry if you have a CCW in Federal Parks, when it wasn't before) and a bunch of other crap that THEY promised HE would do.

[Baggins]

The Republicans during the last election, stated that if Obama was elected, that the first thing he'd do is silence Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. They also promised that he'd do a lot of other things, like he'd take our guns away, (even though it is now legal to carry if you have a CCW in Federal Parks, when it wasn't before) and a bunch of other crap that THEY promised HE would do.

Oh, I know, it's all a bunch of nonsense, the problem is that some people really believe that crap he dishes, in fact they thrive off of it and thrash talk with their like minded buddies about the "truth" Rush exposes about the evil liberals...It's so f***ing childish and would be laughable if it wasn't so inherently dangerous.

The way some people think scares me at times...

[jbs49238]

I love how Limbaugh has positioned himself as a "tea".  Limbaugh has been bankrolled by mainstream Wall St. Republicans for years and years.  He backs Santorum because he is more conservative but in reality knows the nomination is Romneys.  Limbaugh will quickly fall in line as will the others.  Just as Chris Matthews and Keith Olberman fall in line for the Democrats and are also in no way afraid to tell other rabid believers what to think.

It is true that anyone who gets their "truths" from the talking heads, no matter which way those heads lean, will believe anything, and it is true that there are more people who do this on the right than the left, but there is no way that anyone should make a claim that any of them should be muzzled.  This is still America and those guys have the right to say it, and the people the right to believe it all they want.

And of course Limbaugh and Hannity said all those scary dishonest things... it is their job within the Republican party to do that, just like it is Frenchfrys job to copy and paste anything anti Republican he can find on a daily basis.  Limbaugh and Hannity are just paid much, much better than Fry... and Matthews and Olberman for that matter.

[excelsior]

This cartoon seems mirror this topic.

[Baggins]

there is no way that anyone should make a claim that any of them should be muzzled

Here's the break down for those who can't understand what I said...

You put a muzzle of a vicious dog to keep it from bitting someone, Rush takes huge chunks out of people "he" deems an "enemy" to the American way of life because they have liberal idealisms, the weak minded eat that crap up because it's easy for them to swallow, therefor I feel he needs to be muzzled for the safety of the population and in particularly common sense(which is in extream short supply these days)...I never said he should be SILENCED mind you, though I guess I can see how someone might take it that way.

  The man crosses the line of reasonable thinking on a regular basis, someone should be able to reign in his distroted twist of fascist hate filled propaganda.  He would have been a great Nazi...LOL

[foha]

Nazi's also wanted to silence people that didn't agree with their twisted way of thinking.

[lordfly]

Nazi's also wanted to silence people that didn't agree with their twisted way of thinking.

Congratulations, you've lost the thread.

[Baggins]

Nazi's also wanted to silence people that didn't agree with their twisted way of thinking.

As if Rush wouldn't like to silence a few people...

[foha]

Niether is acceptable. They would both be unemployed.