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Re: 'Stand Your Ground'
« Reply #330 on: June 14, 2012, 10:17:51 AM »

For those who want to limit legal gun owners rights - ponder this

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« Reply #331 on: June 14, 2012, 03:06:33 PM »

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Re: 'Stand Your Ground'
« Reply #332 on: June 14, 2012, 03:38:28 PM »

"stand your ground" is poorly named. what is wrong with "self-defense"?
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« Reply #333 on: June 14, 2012, 09:03:20 PM »

"stand your ground" is poorly named. what is wrong with "self-defense"?
That's because the liberals and the media deems it so...

It arose because the self defense laws had flaws,   
Nothing is going to cover every type of incident - but making law abiding citizens retreat in there own homes was the last straw that created the legislation like "stand your ground"...

We can't legislate common sense so we have to try to create a law that provides for it in legalese.
 

Conservatives think self defense,  Eric Holder thinks it's preposterous although he seems to be standing his ground, now that he's on the wrong side of a gun issue
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Re: 'Stand Your Ground'
« Reply #334 on: June 14, 2012, 09:18:34 PM »

That's because the liberals and the media deems it so...

It arose because the self defense laws had flaws,   
Nothing is going to cover every type of incident - but making law abiding citizens retreat in there own homes was the last straw that created the legislation like "stand your ground"...

We can't legislate common sense so we have to try to create a law that provides for it in legalese.
 

Conservatives think self defense,  Eric Holder thinks it's preposterous although he seems to be standing his ground, now that he's on the wrong side of a gun issue
Wrong.
The GOP agenda that produced ‘Stand Your Ground’ laws
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/martin-bashir/46838241#46838241


NRA Offers ‘Stand Your Ground’ Insurance To Cover Legal Costs Of Shooting People In Self-Defense
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/06/13/497635/nra-stand-your-ground-insurance/

Johnson & Johnson became the nineteenth company to withdraw funding from the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) in recent weeks. The corporate funded group has come under fire for introducing controversial bills in state legislatures around the country --most notably, the 'Stand Your Ground' law linked to Trayvon Martin's Death. But just because ALEC's influence is eroding doesn't mean oligarchic lobbyists will be going away. So here we profile five lobbying groups with nationwide influence that could pick up where ALEC left off -- undermining the public interest in all fifty states.

Who's The Next ALEC?
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« Reply #335 on: June 18, 2012, 01:04:52 AM »

Texas Man Found Guilty for Killing Neighbor in Dispute

A jury has convicted a Texas man for murdering his neighbor during a confrontation over loud music two years ago, rejecting a claim that he was within his rights to fatally shoot the man under Texas' version of a "stand-your-ground" law.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-man-found-guilty-killing-neighbor-dispute/story?id=16563913#.T96WzfUkKSp
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« Reply #336 on: March 06, 2013, 11:39:08 AM »

Seems George Zimmerman may not use the "stand your ground" defense (although his attorney says he may "roll it" into the defense). 

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-zimmerman-witness-8-medical-records-20130305,0,129597.story
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« Reply #337 on: March 06, 2013, 12:28:13 PM »

I believe George Zimmerman will eventually be freed from all this racial crap.
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« Reply #338 on: March 06, 2013, 01:42:56 PM »

This development could be huge in a case built on he said/she said.

Lawyer: State's main witness in George Zimmerman murder case lied

more at:  http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-zimmerman-witness-8-medical-records-20130305,0,129597.story

SANFORD — Trayvon Martin's girlfriend, the state's most important witness in the George Zimmerman murder case, was caught in a lie, it was revealed Tuesday.

It was not the first piece of misinformation tied to her, but it was the most damaging to date and left prosecutors in a very awkward position.

They had to publicly acknowledge that their star witness had lied under oath and had to answer questions about what they intend to do about it.

Reporters asked: Will you charge the 19-year-old Miami woman with perjury?

The state's lead prosecutor, Bernie de la Rionda, gave an ambiguous answer: "You can all read the law and make your own decision."
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Re: 'Stand Your Ground'
« Reply #339 on: March 06, 2013, 01:52:42 PM »

Beat a dead horse... 8*
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« Reply #340 on: March 06, 2013, 01:58:32 PM »

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« Reply #341 on: March 13, 2013, 03:32:24 AM »

This development could be huge in a case built on he said/she said.

Lawyer: State's main witness in George Zimmerman murder case lied

more at:  http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-zimmerman-witness-8-medical-records-20130305,0,129597.story

SANFORD — Trayvon Martin's girlfriend, the state's most important witness in the George Zimmerman murder case, was caught in a lie, it was revealed Tuesday.

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They had to publicly acknowledge that their star witness had lied under oath and had to answer questions about what they intend to do about it.

Reporters asked: Will you charge the 19-year-old Miami woman with perjury?

The state's lead prosecutor, Bernie de la Rionda, gave an ambiguous answer: "You can all read the law and make your own decision."
LOL...yeah right. Just a defense attorney trying to make something out of nothing.
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« Reply #342 on: March 13, 2013, 07:04:38 AM »

LOL...yeah right. Just a defense attorney trying to make something out of nothing.

I think Pres. Clinton would disagree.  Telling a lie on a legal document is pretty serious.  In this instance I would bet this was done because she is 19 and Mr. Martin was 16. 
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