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UP Ponders Statehood
« on: May 07, 2012, 08:28:35 PM »

51st state? Yoopers are talking up secession from Michigan again

http://www.freep.com/article/20120506/NEWS06/205060541/51st-state-Yoopers-are-talking-up-secession-from-Michigan-again?odyssey=mod|mostview


"Don't you think it would be kind of nice to start from scratch?" asked Marquette County Commissioner Mike Quayle, who first raised the issue with the commission. "It would be kind of interesting to see what kind of government we could form up here. Maybe we could be a showcase for the rest of the United States."

The MI Legislature will never let them go.

There also is the growing notion among many in the U.P. that Lansing is trampling the rights of local government, stirred in part by two issues:

•The state Legislature, as some locals see it, "rammed through" in 17 days a bill allowing anyone to mine land, undermining a Michigan Supreme Court ruling that said local government could determine which areas are off-limits to mining based on residential or other concerns.
•Ore taxes
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« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2012, 08:52:01 PM »

This subject has come up before and like every time before, it will go nowhere...Piss poor idea that would destroy what's left of Michigan as it stands.

Quebec has a better chance of secession from Canada, which is hopelessly NIL!
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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2012, 09:09:28 PM »

Damn Yoopers at it again. Are there even enough people living in the UP to apply for statehood?
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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2012, 10:55:13 PM »

Damn Yoopers at it again. Are there even enough people living in the UP to apply for statehood?

The largest city is Marquette if I am not mistaken... population 20K?  (With students 26K?)
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2012, 11:09:37 PM »

I thought there was a population requirement.
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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2012, 11:20:51 PM »

As of the 2010 census, the U.P. had a population of 299,184
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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2012, 11:48:20 PM »

I actually looked into the whole population requirement. According to the Northwest Ordinance it is only 60,000. It would be interesting if the UP broke off from us but I'm not sure if part of a state has ever broken into multiple states since the formation of the United States.
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2012, 12:00:20 AM »

I still think there would be a better chance of Puerto Rico becomeing the 51st state than a break off from Michigan... 8*
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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2012, 12:06:50 AM »

I still think there would be a better chance of Puerto Rico becomeing the 51st state than a break off from Michigan... 8*

One thing to keep in mind with Puerto Rico, they enjoy almost all of the benefits of statehood right now plus they don't pay taxes. I'm not sure if they'd be willing to give that up.
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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2012, 12:12:15 AM »

Maybe they should just talk to Wisconsin about a quick annex; The west side of the U.P. are cheese heads anyhow!
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« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2012, 12:23:27 AM »

One thing to keep in mind with Puerto Rico, they enjoy almost all of the benefits of statehood right now plus they don't pay taxes. I'm not sure if they'd be willing to give that up.

Exactly...
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« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2012, 01:43:17 AM »

I actually looked into the whole population requirement. According to the Northwest Ordinance it is only 60,000. It would be interesting if the UP broke off from us but I'm not sure if part of a state has ever broken into multiple states since the formation of the United States.
Virginia and West Virginia during the civil war.
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