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Is the term Michigander an insult to women?
« on: January 28, 2012, 11:23:38 PM »

What thoughts do you have about this question recently posed to Governor Snyder:

http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2012/01/is_the_term_michigander_an_ins.html
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Re: Is the term Michigander an insult to women?
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2012, 11:41:11 PM »

I think it's ridiculous... 8*

I'm sick of people making issues out of nothing...Quite frankly if you are that offended by the name, move to another state and take your pettiness with you.
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Re: Is the term Michigander an insult to women?
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2012, 12:21:15 AM »

On the origins of the term Michigander...

Michigander is considered pejorative by some due to the circumstances under which the term was coined, but others perceive no such negative connotation. Michigander is attributed to Abraham Lincoln, coining it when he was a Whig representative in Congress. On July 27, 1848, Lincoln made a speech against Lewis Cass, who had been a long-time governor of the Michigan Territory. Cass was then running for president on a " popular sovereignty" platform that would have let states that were conquered in the Mexican-American War decide whether to legalize slavery. Lincoln accused the Democrats of campaigning on the former President Andrew Jackson's coattails by exaggerating their military accomplishments.

But in my hurry I was very near closing on the subject of military tails before I was done with it. There is one entire article of the sort I have not discussed yet; I mean the military tail you Democrats are now engaged in dovetailing onto the great Michigander [i.e. Lewis Cass].

Lincoln thus combined Michigan with gander to form a nickname that made Cass sound foolish like a goose. Michiganders would go on to vote for Lincoln for President twice in 1860 and 1864.


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Re: Is the term Michigander an insult to women?
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2012, 07:04:56 AM »

Personally, I don't care what we women get called as long as it is respectful.  Political correctness is out of control. 

(Just my opinion)
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Re: Is the term Michigander an insult to women?
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2012, 09:10:55 AM »

On the origins of the term Michigander...

Michigander is considered pejorative by some due to the circumstances under which the term was coined, but others perceive no such negative connotation. Michigander is attributed to Abraham Lincoln, coining it when he was a Whig representative in Congress. On July 27, 1848, Lincoln made a speech against Lewis Cass, who had been a long-time governor of the Michigan Territory. Cass was then running for president on a " popular sovereignty" platform that would have let states that were conquered in the Mexican-American War decide whether to legalize slavery. Lincoln accused the Democrats of campaigning on the former President Andrew Jackson's coattails by exaggerating their military accomplishments.

But in my hurry I was very near closing on the subject of military tails before I was done with it. There is one entire article of the sort I have not discussed yet; I mean the military tail you Democrats are now engaged in dovetailing onto the great Michigander [i.e. Lewis Cass].

Lincoln thus combined Michigan with gander to form a nickname that made Cass sound foolish like a goose. Michiganders would go on to vote for Lincoln for President twice in 1860 and 1864.

Great info Baggins...   I've only heard part of that before.
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Re: Is the term Michigander an insult to women?
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2012, 10:46:42 AM »

Really?  Wow.  What wasted energy.


I prefer Michigander to Michiganian. 


Some alternative suggestions:

Michiganese

Michiganite

Michiganolian

Michiganiver

Michiganperson



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Re: Is the term Michigander an insult to women?
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2012, 10:49:54 AM »

LOL, I can't believe a person objected to 'Michigander' because it might refer to a male goose from Michigan!! That's just insane!  ;D  And yeah, at that point, political correctness is definitely out of control!
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Re: Is the term Michigander an insult to women?
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2012, 11:01:23 AM »

PC is so outdated now, can't believe the correct term isn't in some legal document as:

Michiganperson
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Re: Is the term Michigander an insult to women?
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2012, 12:06:46 PM »

Shouldn't be an issue of gender. Funny how someone considers it a slight.
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Re: Is the term Michigander an insult to women?
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2012, 11:11:56 AM »

Article from Mlive:

http://www.mlive.com/opinion/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2012/01/michigander_or_michiganian_wha.html

Poll results:

Michigander  72.89%
Michiganian  25.85%
Michiganite  1.26%

The people have spoken, both men and women, rock on you Michiganders...!

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Re: Is the term Michigander an insult to women?
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2012, 11:16:31 AM »

Poll results:

Michigander  72.89%
Michiganian  25.85%
Michiganite  1.26%

The people have spoken, both men and women, rock on you Michiganders...!

You can call me any of those and quite a few more...

just don't call me an SEC fan >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Is the term Michigander an insult to women?
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2012, 11:50:27 AM »

You can call me any of those and quite a few more...

just don't call me an SEC fan >:( >:( >:(


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Re: Is the term Michigander an insult to women?
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2012, 08:50:30 AM »

I'm a proud Michigander! It's one of those words that has evolved. :P
Michigooser LOL :D
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