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Right on Daryl. With Obama more jobs are created through government legislation. Appropriate money for another jobs program and then advocate that the rich pay for it. Then funnel the money through several bureaucracies and presto. Jobs!!!

Goodness. What a plan. I've worked for mid-sized to smaller companies. We concentrated on squeezing out cost to be more competive, R&D and efficiency.
Work harder, and hopefully smarter. Carve out our niche, and grow it.
As we grew we hired more people. On the whole we were quite prosperous.

Then I look at Obama job proposals. Tax the business I work for to provide the funds needed to fund the lastest Obama jobs program. So we take money from a growing business to fund yet another Obama jobs program.

Business people like me, living in the real world, look on with wonder. What on earth are these people thinking?

Not entirely sure they can John.

I believe it's more like you act and state what your advisers dictate (as evidenced by Biden's off the cuff remarks lately and the rebuttal and quick reposturing by Obama (the gay marriage issues come to mind).

The presidency (at least to me) appears to be a position where you do what you are told to do by your handlers and in Obama's case, become a world traveler...  Not a spokesman or conveyor of good will, but a vacationer at the taxpayers expense.....

What a life.

Obama has been a joke from the start and it appears the very segment that propelled him to office (the young voters) have become disenfranchised as of late.

[Baby Hitler]

I remember when bread was 25 cents a loaf.  I guess you don't.

I remember when it was about 50 cents a loaf, and that was before Reagan. I didn't do much grocery shopping before that. Although I do remember getting bread 4 loaves for $1 at the wonder bakery outlet store from time to time.

But I guess that is all Obama's fault too.

All I know for sure, is that out of all the Presidents from and including Reagan, the Republican presidents have increased spending a hell of a lot more than the democrats have, and the Democrats spent it on we the people, not on wars.

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Right on Daryl. With Obama more jobs are created through government legislation. Appropriate money for another jobs program and then advocate that the rich pay for it. Then funnel the money through several bureaucracies and presto. Jobs!!!

Goodness. What a plan. I've worked for mid-sized to smaller companies. We concentrated on squeezing out cost to be more competive, R&D and efficiency.
Work harder, and hopefully smarter. Carve out our niche, and grow it.
As we grew we hired more people. On the whole we were quite prosperous.

Then I look at Obama job proposals. Tax the business I work for to provide the funds needed to fund the lastest Obama jobs program. So we take money from a growing business to fund yet another Obama jobs program.

Business people like me, living in the real world, look on with wonder. What on earth are these people thinking?

He may not have objected, but it was still wrong to use his name.

[John Kopke]

He may not have objected, but it was still wrong to use his name.

I knew he wouldn't mind and I felt like adding a personal touch. But you are
correct, it was wrong.

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I have/had no issue with John using my name, after all, he uses his.

I very rarely use it anyway, except for official things.  I was supposed to be a girl but back then sex of the baby was conjecture until it was born so a quick name change was in order.  I was supposed to be Darla.

What could have been....

In today's society I could have been a Darla and it would have been acceptable.  Not then however.  Boys were named Joe or Larry or Al or Charles or Don, not Daryl so I just use my grandad's name, Flip.  4 letters, easy to remember and easy to spell.

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I remember when it was about 50 cents a loaf, and that was before Reagan. I didn't do much grocery shopping before that. Although I do remember getting bread 4 loaves for $1 at the wonder bakery outlet store from time to time.

But I guess that is all Obama's fault too.

All I know for sure, is that out of all the Presidents from and including Reagan, the Republican presidents have increased spending a hell of a lot more than the democrats have, and the Democrats spent it on we the people, not on wars.

Problem is, a non conflict economy is a  recessionary economy with high unemployment, sort of what we are experiencing now........  but wait, Iran will get stupid anyday now and we will be back in a conflict economy......

Obama inherited inflation but I don't see him doing anything about reducing it, in fact, he is increasing it.

When I was a kid, milk was delivered in glass bottles with cream on the top, put in an asbestos lined box on your porch to keep it cold, delivered in a little truck or ocassionally, a horse drawn wagon when the truck was broken.  The bakery up the street (I was raised on the west side of Cleveland arond West 130th street BTW) baked fresh bread every day.  Raisin bread, fresh sliced and warm was 30 cents a loaf, white was 25 cents.  I still remember the slicer machine, the loaf went in one side whole and came out the other....sliced.  It went into a waxed paper sack. 

Bread today comes in a plastic bag and when it was baked is anyone's guess or where it was baked for that matter.  Life was simpler back then.  I still remember Dwight Eisenhower BTW

I walked to school, elementary, middle and high school and only in the dead of winter, I took the bus.  Bus was Cleveland Transit System or now RTA.  There were no school busses to pick you up at your house.  We had a dress code and respected our parents and teachers.  No one respects anything  or anyone today.  people are all about themselves and thats it.

Sorry about getting off on a tangent.  Obama is still an idiot.  Actually, so it Rummy.  Rummy is just the lesser of the idiots.  You'd think that after 4 years of blundering around, people like you could see he's an oaf, but then, it's the party thing and the differentiation between being a republican and a democrat and whats right and what isn't and what time the sun will come up...........

All while we continue to go down the toilet.

[Baby Hitler]

Problem is, a non conflict economy is a  recessionary economy with high unemployment

I guess you forgot the Clinton years.

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You mean the stogy guy??  He makes Herman Cain look like a Saint.

[lordfly]

You mean the stogy guy??  He makes Herman Cain look like a Saint.

Regardless of his marital ethics, I don't recall unemployment being high or the budget not being balanced.

[SMASH]

Problem is, a non conflict economy is a  recessionary economy with high unemployment, sort of what we are experiencing now........

We have troops in how many countries? We pay for that conflict, war, or not.
We have high unemployment. We are in a depression. Problem is the folks in this country don't want to see it. Today we don't have bread lines with thousands of hungry people waiting to be feed so they are not seen. Today we have millions on F'ing Food Stamps and Bridge Cards cleverly keeping them hiden from the public eye!

  but wait, Iran will get stupid anyday now and we will be back in a conflict economy......

It's what we do! We ARE a war mongering nation willing to whack innocent civilians by the thousands.

Obama inherited inflation but I don't see him doing anything about reducing it, in fact, he is increasing it.

Reducing inflation, and the economy, and jobs, are NOT the job of the President regardless of who it is. Look back in our history when we were a Republic and you will see that quite clearly.

When I was a kid, milk was delivered in glass bottles with cream on the top, put in an asbestos lined box on your porch to keep it cold, delivered in a little truck or ocassionally, a horse drawn wagon when the truck was broken.  The bakery up the street (I was raised on the west side of Cleveland arond West 130th street BTW) baked fresh bread every day.  Raisin bread, fresh sliced and warm was 30 cents a loaf, white was 25 cents.  I still remember the slicer machine, the loaf went in one side whole and came out the other....sliced.  It went into a waxed paper sack. 

Bread today comes in a plastic bag and when it was baked is anyone's guess or where it was baked for that matter.  Life was simpler back then.  I still remember Dwight Eisenhower BTW

I walked to school, elementary, middle and high school and only in the dead of winter, I took the bus.  Bus was Cleveland Transit System or now RTA.  There were no school busses to pick you up at your house.  We had a dress code and respected our parents and teachers.  No one respects anything  or anyone today.  people are all about themselves and thats it.

Sorry about getting off on a tangent.  Obama is still an idiot.  Actually, so it Rummy.  Rummy is just the lesser of the idiots.  You'd think that after 4 years of blundering around, people like you could see he's an oaf, but then, it's the party thing and the differentiation between being a republican and a democrat and whats right and what isn't and what time the sun will come up...........

All while we continue to go down the toilet.

Because we allow it through collective greed and ignorance. But, we like it this way. We don't know any better, we just OBEY.