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Re: Tear Down Fermi!
« Reply #45 on: July 10, 2012, 03:29:13 PM »

Nice reply. How long have you been a lying buffoon?

For as long as you've been sucking on the radioactive doorknob...... ;D
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« Reply #46 on: July 10, 2012, 03:36:31 PM »

I think m.m is telling us nuclear is a poor option and we should burn the S#!t out of coal and oil.

Because I don't think ANYONE will want a windfarm on the old Fermi site, I mean afterall windmills are harmful.
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Re: Tear Down Fermi!
« Reply #47 on: July 10, 2012, 03:39:35 PM »

I think m.m is telling us nuclear is a poor option and we should burn the S#!t out of coal and oil.

Because I don't think ANYONE will want a windfarm on the old Fermi site, I mean afterall windmills are harmful.

I hear they kill birds and cause 'whooooshing' sounds, 24-7, noise pollution.....
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Re: Tear Down Fermi!
« Reply #48 on: July 10, 2012, 04:57:52 PM »

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Re: Tear Down Fermi!
« Reply #49 on: July 10, 2012, 05:32:46 PM »

I hear they kill birds and cause 'whooooshing' sounds, 24-7, noise pollution.....

Not to mention how much of an eyesore they are.
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« Reply #50 on: July 10, 2012, 05:55:37 PM »

Not to mention how much of an eyesore they are.

A couple years back, the wife and I went to Iowa for a motorcycle rally and the location where the rally was, was very near a gigantic wind farm of literally hundreds of windmills.  There is nothing asthetically pleasing about them and I know they go wooooooooosh, woooooooosh, woooooooosh because we stood at the base of one.  It had to be 300 feet high, the whosh sound is actually loud right up close.  I'd find that irritating if there was one next to the farm.

One problem as I understand it, is that places where there is steady wind of a magnitude to make the windmills profitable is also far away from population centers, so the infrastructure to carry the juice, transmission lines and such is a hefty expense in itself.
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Re: Tear Down Fermi!
« Reply #51 on: July 10, 2012, 11:04:00 PM »

A couple years back, the wife and I went to Iowa for a motorcycle rally and the location where the rally was, was very near a gigantic wind farm of literally hundreds of windmills.  There is nothing asthetically pleasing about them and I know they go wooooooooosh, woooooooosh, woooooooosh because we stood at the base of one.  It had to be 300 feet high, the whosh sound is actually loud right up close.  I'd find that irritating if there was one next to the farm.

One problem as I understand it, is that places where there is steady wind of a magnitude to make the windmills profitable is also far away from population centers, so the infrastructure to carry the juice, transmission lines and such is a hefty expense in itself.
Ohio is making big strides in solar-wind power! Having population centers along the Great Lake Coast favors delivery, but the "grid" is a huge problem in itself. That is why the goal should be to create buildings that power themselves. The benefits of transition are numerous. Security is improved because we won't rely on foreign fuel, like oil and uranium. We will save a ton of money on line and grid maintenance and subsidizing big energy. The environment will be much healthier, and long-term jobs will be created. Homrich will need to hire! :P
http://www.ohiowind.org/PDFs/Offshoreonepager.pdf

More DTE news:

DTE offers conference call to discuss 2nd Quarter earnings
DETROIT, July 10, 2012 -- /PRNewswire/ -- DTE Energy (NYSE: DTE) will announce its second quarter 2012 earnings before the market opens Friday, July 27. The company will conduct a conference call to discuss earnings results at 9 a.m. EDT the same day.

Investors, the news media and the public may listen to a live internet broadcast of the call at www.dteenergy.com/investors. The telephone dial-in numbers are U.S. and Canada toll free: (800) 419-9895 or International toll: (913) 312-0643. The passcode is 4907918. The webcast will be archived on the DTE Energy website at www.dteenergy.com/investors.

DTE Energy (NYSE: DTE) is a Detroit-based diversified energy company involved in the development and management of energy-related businesses and services nationwide. Its operating units include Detroit Edison, an electric utility serving 2.1 million customers in Southeastern Michigan, MichCon, a natural gas utility serving 1.2 million customers in Michigan and other non-utility, energy businesses focused on gas storage and pipelines, unconventional gas production, power and industrial projects, and energy trading. Information about DTE Energy is available at dteenergy.com, twitter.com/dte_energy and facebook.com/dteenergy.

SOURCE DTE Energy

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/07/10/4621013/dte-energy-schedules-2q-2012-earnings.html#storylink=cpy

No mention of Nuclear or Fermi.  8*



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Re: Tear Down Fermi!
« Reply #52 on: July 10, 2012, 11:06:35 PM »

Ohio is making big strides in solar-wind power! Having population centers along the Great Lake Coast favors delivery, but the "grid" is a huge problem in itself. That is why the goal should be to create buildings that power themselves. The benefits of transition are numerous. Security is improved because we won't rely on foreign fuel, like oil and uranium. We will save a ton of money on line and grid maintainance and subsidizing big energy. The environment will be much healthier, and long-term jobs will be created. Homrich will need to hire! :P
http://www.ohiowind.org/PDFs/Offshoreonepager.pdf

More DTE news:

DTE offers conference call to discuss 2nd Quarter earnings
DETROIT, July 10, 2012 -- /PRNewswire/ -- DTE Energy (NYSE: DTE) will announce its second quarter 2012 earnings before the market opens Friday, July 27. The company will conduct a conference call to discuss earnings results at 9 a.m. EDT the same day.

Investors, the news media and the public may listen to a live internet broadcast of the call at www.dteenergy.com/investors. The telephone dial-in numbers are U.S. and Canada toll free: (800) 419-9895 or International toll: (913) 312-0643. The passcode is 4907918. The webcast will be archived on the DTE Energy website at www.dteenergy.com/investors.

DTE Energy (NYSE: DTE) is a Detroit-based diversified energy company involved in the development and management of energy-related businesses and services nationwide. Its operating units include Detroit Edison, an electric utility serving 2.1 million customers in Southeastern Michigan, MichCon, a natural gas utility serving 1.2 million customers in Michigan and other non-utility, energy businesses focused on gas storage and pipelines, unconventional gas production, power and industrial projects, and energy trading. Information about DTE Energy is available at dteenergy.com, twitter.com/dte_energy and facebook.com/dteenergy.

SOURCE DTE Energy

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/07/10/4621013/dte-energy-schedules-2q-2012-earnings.html#storylink=cpy

No mention of Nuclear or Fermi.  8*
No mention of coal or Monroe Power Plant. 8*
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Re: Tear Down Fermi!
« Reply #53 on: July 10, 2012, 11:10:10 PM »

No mention of coal or Monroe Power Plant. 8*
I thought that's what "Detroit Edison, an electric utility serving 2.1 million customers" was.
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Re: Tear Down Fermi!
« Reply #54 on: July 10, 2012, 11:22:16 PM »

I thought that's what "Detroit Edison, an electric utility serving 2.1 million customers" was.
That also includes Fermi. Their power generation operates under Detroit Edison.
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« Reply #55 on: July 11, 2012, 12:18:50 AM »

That also includes Fermi. Their power generation operates under Detroit Edison.
Well it's their only nuke.
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Re: Tear Down Fermi!
« Reply #56 on: July 11, 2012, 01:25:52 AM »

I hear they kill birds and cause 'whooooshing' sounds, 24-7, noise pollution.....

If a tree falls in a forest and.... You know the rest.
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Re: Tear Down Fermi!
« Reply #57 on: July 11, 2012, 07:41:53 AM »

If a tree falls in a forest and.... You know the rest.
If radiation leaks in the groundwater...you know the rest.
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DTE violating National Historic Preservation Act?
« Reply #58 on: July 11, 2012, 08:04:24 AM »

Monroe, MI –This Independence Day, the coalition of Fermi 3 nuclear intervenors
have filed a legal contention challenging the denial of public participation in the
official historical ‘recordation’ of the Fermi 1 Fast Breeder Reactor, which
experienced a core-melt accident on October 5, 1966. [link to intervenors’
contention][http://www.beyondnuclear.org/storage/Hist%20contn%20COMPLET.
pdf] In order to build the proposed Fermi 3 nuclear reactor, the Fermi 1
containment shell must be demolished, in order to make room for the new
construction. As Fermi 1 has been named to the National Register of Historic
Places, DTE/Detroit Edison must mitigate its destruction by establishing an
official historical ‘recordation,’ with an archive for their previous failed
experiment. But the intervenors allege the public has been denied participation in
that legally required process, a violation of the National Historic Preservation Act
(NHPA). http://www.beyondnuclear.org/storage/July%203%202012%20historical%20contention%20press%20release.pdf

I can live with a memorial to the nuclear meltdown. Those who do not remember their past are destined to repeat it.
Down with Fermi, Up with People!
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Re: Tear Down Fermi!
« Reply #59 on: July 11, 2012, 10:23:04 AM »

Those that dwell in the past have no future. 
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