There is a difference between proud and arrogant, and CONFIDENCE!
I am CONFIDENT that a hippo-like animal NEVER evolved into a whale over MILLIONS OF YEARS
I am CONFIDENT the (12) most famous followers of Jesus were NOT a cult that hoped to turn the world upside down so they could sit on top in wealth, pomp and circumstance; they were not interested in throwing off Roman rule, occupying government, or abolishing Jewish orthodoxy(remember the Matthew diatribe 23 which happened the very week Christ was handed over to the government to be killed(the END of His ministry) by
the religious types who he was a THREAT to); notice a PATTERN in HISTORY there Xerxes - a threat presents itself to, and then by use of government, a goal to SILENCE the exposure of HYPOCRISY by celebrity LEADERS in government and clergy who express EXTERIOR religiosity is hatched?
Most of Christ's early apostles/followers were martyred for their faith; so what was their goal in even writing the Gospels(eyewitness accounts) - to what PERSONAL benefit? Were they selling books on Amazon? And now your side comes along, after they are DEAD and of no influence(the church is named after CHRIST), and tear them down as dis-believable/untrustworthy/unthinking liars? To what end? After 2000 years, surely your side could have discredited them by now - there should be no church in existence; is every naysayer of Christianity less capable than you, or, are you the master of the cut-and-paste.
Do you have any original thoughts of your own, or, are you a student/priest of the church of Satan?
Your side is still losing and you guys are done, man - it's OVER; this NEW provocation thread of yours - that the Gospels are a JOKE(just like the idea that the circulatory, respiratory, skeletal, nervous, and digestive system of hippo-like creatures CHANGED into something that would stop walking on land and suit a WHALE through natural selection and beneficial mutations over millions of years) is STUPID - because - as I have heard the arrogant John MacArthur(ignorant servant of a tyrant God) preach...
"You see, the hope of the return of Jesus Christ means we(Christians) have an ultimate point of accountability for how we live.
Let me give you something you might not understand at first, but think it through. I believe that liberal theology is not the product of intellect, it is the product of immorality. It is the direct child of passion. It is an effort to deny spiritual accountability. Michael Greene(http://books.google.com/books?id=eQIBxWTuAS4C
) said, "Anthropocentric hedonism always mocks at the idea of ultimate standards and a final division between the saved and lost. For men who live in the world of the relative, the claim that the relative will be ended by the absolute is nothing short of ludicrous.
For men who nourish a belief in human self-determination and perfectibility, the very idea that we are accountable and dependent is a bitter pill to swallow
, no wonder they mocked," end quote.They want to ignore the inexorable law of Romans 1:18, that the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all unrighteousness. This shows up nowhere more clearly than in evolution.
Notable evolutionists and denier of divine creation, divine intervention and divine judgment was Aldous Huxley, the grandson of Thomas Huxley. He wrote Confessions of a Professed Atheist. Listen to what he said, most insightful, this is Aldous Huxley, the brother of Julian, he wrote this, "I had motives for not wanting the world to have meaning, consequently assumed it had none and was able without any difficulty to find satisfying reasons for this assumption. The philosopher who finds no meaning in the world is not concerned exclusively with a problem in pure metaphysics. He's also concerned to prove that there's no valid reason why he should personally not do just what he wants to do. For myself,...writes Huxley...as no doubt for most of contemporaries, the philosophy of meaninglessness was essentially an instrument of liberation. The liberation we desired was simultaneously a liberation from a certain political and economic system...listen to this...and a liberation from a certain system of morality. We objected to the morality because it interfered with our sexual freedom," end quote. Evolution is not the child of science, it is child of sexual liberation. It is not produced by people who have come to it purely from the intellectual, it is produced by people who wanted no meaning to culture, no meaning to behavior, no judgment, no accountability, no God so they could live any way they want to live. It's a moral issue, not an intellectual issue
You are a mocker of the Bible and Christianity, Xerxes - for purely self-centered reasons of you own(temper tantrum) ... It is not my goal to "convert" you ... just expose what you do and why you do it to Monroe-area Christians.
They have enough problems accepting the fact that REAL unemployment out there is better than 30%, despite ALL the Christian churches that "flourish" there(and the fact that ALL the Democrats and Republicans that represent them in Lansing and Washington D.C. are CHRISTIANS) - so - seriously man, your hobby here is only digging your side into a deeper hole; not mine...[and, I am certain those/all pro-government growth politicians LOVE your God-less evolution BTW]
I am only accountable for myself when it comes to meeting the Creator; same as Hovind or MacArthur - if we speak to quickly, or, make a mistake; our audience can chew on the meat and spit out the bones - that is why I differ/argue with you from a PHILOSOPHICAL point of view(that your energy/approach is a WASTED one) because you cannot overcome the human conscience that compels people(at the youngest of age) to "do right" and ask for PERMISSION to do things, as well as the vast intricacies/varieties/dependencies that exist in creation that ONLY "millions of years" or "God did it" can explain.
If I believe God did it, which I do; I likewise find it reasonable to be in AWE of His abilities whereby I also think it reasonable to seek to willingly OBEY His natural laws, and, believe He did do it in 6 literal 24-hour days(even though Christians have dropped so much reverence for Him that not only do they rationalize any and all their sins/vices away - but - they don't even blink at the theistic evolution idea; which justifies their pursuit of fleshly lusts and love of money these days).
The burden of proof is still on you because you want TAX DOLLARS to be used to change our law books to the degree that all laws that can be derived from anything remotely in line with Mosaic Law be stricken down as poppycock through purely emotion-based ridicule(which is not the test of truth); and, you want the youngest of school-children to be instructed that NO Supreme Being exists anywhere in the universe, especially one that could be appealed to when immorality, hypocrisy, murders, violations of personal and property rights and lawlessness reigns and is facilitated as permissible by governments.
Based on our nation's founding, this should NEVER happen; and if guys like you go unchecked, it just may - so - I am thankful I am still FREE to opine/philosophize as I wish here; not worried how many I anger with my adherence to the TRUTH as I see it.
Usually when you plant a seed, and you really want it to germinate; it helps if you stick a spade into the dirt(no matter how hard), rather than throw the seeds up in the air and hope some take root wherever they randomly land...I think Hovind/MacArthur take the same approach(target audience - professing Christians predominately)...and..."if some are offended, (we) mean to offend" because they need it!