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[LessGovernment]

Can't argue with Xerxes logic and truthfulness; myself, all believers, and evangelists, pastors, and seminary students have been duped into serving a tyrant instead of random chance and moral anarchy....man, what happened to us?

Them apostles....that cult....oooohh, I am so mad I could just spit...to think the brain God gave me deceived me; wait...my brain came from the pre-biotic soup...I get it now...

[marilyn.monroe]

Xerxes, You sure pick easy targets.

Maybe you could tear down Mother Teresa for us.

[Forsythia]

Can't argue with Xerxes logic and truthfulness; myself, all believers, and evangelists, pastors, and seminary students have been duped into serving a tyrant instead of random chance and moral anarchy....man, what happened to us?

Them apostles....that cult....oooohh, I am so mad I could just spit...to think the brain God gave me deceived me; wait...my brain came from the pre-biotic soup...I get it now...

Ummm just because someone is an atheist doesn't mean they have moral anarchy.  Actually bad morals come more from  religion than anything secular.

[MonroeMonkey]

Xerxes, You sure pick easy targets.

Maybe you could tear down Mother Teresa for us.

Mother Teresa was always in a crisis of faith, doubting faith as just fiction.

Here's some statements of her's taken from her letters to friends and diary.


"Where is my faith?" she wrote. "Even deep down… there is nothing but emptiness and darkness... If there be God — please forgive me."

Eight years later, she was still looking to reclaim her lost faith.

"Such deep longing for God… Repulsed, empty, no faith, no love, no zeal," she said.

As her fame increased, her faith refused to return. Her smile, she said, was a mask.

"What do I labor for?" she asked in one letter. "If there be no God, there can be no soul. If there be no soul then, Jesus, You also are not true."

According to her letters, Mother Teresa died with her doubts. She had even stopped praying, she once said.

The church decided to keep her letters, even though one of her dying wishes was that they be destroyed.




A dose of the real world would put anyone in a crisis of faith, I'd think, if they're a Christian. But hey, God provides manna, which tastes like honey and wafers for the rebellious Hebrews (as God calls them) for 40 years, but now you have people praying in the NAME OF JESUS! for hungry innocent children, and God provides no manna for them, and according to the Christians he is well able.

[marilyn.monroe]

Mother Teresa was always in a crisis of faith, doubting faith as just fiction.

Here's some statements of her's taken from her letters to friends and diary.


"Where is my faith?" she wrote. "Even deep down… there is nothing but emptiness and darkness... If there be God — please forgive me."

Eight years later, she was still looking to reclaim her lost faith.

"Such deep longing for God… Repulsed, empty, no faith, no love, no zeal," she said.

As her fame increased, her faith refused to return. Her smile, she said, was a mask.

"What do I labor for?" she asked in one letter. "If there be no God, there can be no soul. If there be no soul then, Jesus, You also are not true."

According to her letters, Mother Teresa died with her doubts. She had even stopped praying, she once said.

The church decided to keep her letters, even though one of her dying wishes was that they be destroyed.




A dose of the real world would put anyone in a crisis of faith, I'd think, if they're a Christian. But hey, God provides manna, which tastes like honey and wafers for the rebellious Hebrews (as God calls them) for 40 years, but now you have people praying in the NAME OF JESUS! for hungry innocent children, and God provides no manna for them, and according to the Christians he is well able.

I admire her love for Jesus and her work with the poor, how she believed everyone needed love and dignity. Of course she had her doubts! She was only human. I will share today my faith was tested. Sometimes it is easy to doubt God or get angry, especially when in pain.
God wants us to love our neighbor like ourselves. People have to help their fellow people!

[MonroeMonkey]

Point is, anyone with a good dose of reality will question the god of the Bible, who again provides magical manna for the stiff-necked hard-hearted, as this god called them, for 40 years, but innocent children starve to death every few seconds, even though people are praying for them in the name of Jesus by the power of the Holy Spirit. There is no miraculous intervention, which would cause any thoughtful person to doubt this ancient tribal god, who was one of many.

[marilyn.monroe]

Point is, anyone with a good dose of reality will question the god of the Bible, who again provides magical manna for the stiff-necked hard-hearted, as this god called them, for 40 years, but innocent children starve to death every few seconds, even though people are praying for them in the name of Jesus by the power of the Holy Spirit. There is no miraculous intervention, which would cause any thoughtful person to doubt this ancient tribal god, who was one of many.

Before I question God, I'll question man! It is not enough to pray, although I recommend praying heartily. One must ACT and love their neighbors! We have the technology and the profit to put an end to world suffering, but we lack the heart.

[MonroeMonkey]

We have the technology and the profit to put an end to world suffering, but we lack the heart.

According to the Bible, that god has the power to end world suffering too. Maybe he lacks the heart.

[marilyn.monroe]

According to the Bible, that god has the power to end world suffering too. Maybe he lacks the heart.

lol. God gave man free will. I am thankful for it.

[MonroeMonkey]

lol. God gave man free will. I am thankful for it.

I don't accept freewill as a reality. There's nothing there that independently selects between options. Seeming free-will choices are actions that are based on myriad co-dependent factors, too complex to understand and predict. Another chaotic system, which brings a range of order.

[LessGovernment]

"According to the Bible, that god has the power to end world suffering too. Maybe he lacks the heart."

According to that same Bible, where did suffering come/start from?

Another reality you don't accept; disobedience to the Creator.

[MonroeMonkey]

According to that same Bible, where did suffering come/start from?

Well, let's see... Roughy, 6,000 years ago God created the heavens, earth, and all life in six days. Then he rested. While he was resting, he left two gullible people at the mercy of the most cunning malevolent being in all creation. They were no match for this guy's wit.

Snake: Hey, you won't die if you eat of this; rather, you'll be like god.
Woman: Oh, ok. Sure, why not. Sounds good.
Man: God told us not to eat of that magical fruit!
Woman: But it's so good! Here try some.
Man: Ok. Why not?

Now all life is cursed. This is why children starve to death and are molested and killed. This is why other animals eat the flesh of other animals.

Teeth on ancient fossilized sea creatures? Giant sea cucumbers before the fall! Fangs on rattlesnakes and venom? To poison fruit before eating. Lmao...

Another reality you don't accept; disobedience to the Creator.

Could it be those who take such stories literal, past the age of 30 are mentally ill? I can see a child or uneducated young person being deceived by their upbringing, but their comes a time to grow up and stop believing in magical talking snakes that offer magical fruit to two belly-buttonless primates.

[marilyn.monroe]

Well, let's see... Roughy, 6,000 years ago God created the heavens, earth, and all life in six days. Then he rested. While he was resting, he left two gullible people at the mercy of the most cunning malevolent being in all creation. They were no match for this guy's wit.

Snake: Hey, you won't die if you eat of this; rather, you'll be like god.
Woman: Oh, ok. Sure, why not. Sounds good.
Man: God told us not to eat of that magical fruit!
Woman: But it's so good! Here try some.
Man: Ok. Why not?

Now all life is cursed. This is why children starve to death and are molested and killed. This is why other animals eat the flesh of other animals.

Teeth on ancient fossilized sea creatures? Giant sea cucumbers before the fall! Fangs on rattlesnakes and venom? To poison fruit before eating. Lmao...


Could it be those who take such stories literal, past the age of 30 are mentally ill? I can see a child or uneducated young person being deceived by their upbringing, but their comes a time to grow up and stop believing in magical talking snakes that offer magical fruit to two belly-buttonless primates.

You really think Eve took an apple from a snake?

[MonroeMonkey]

You really think Eve took an apple from a snake?

Of course not. But *many* Christians are literalists that do believe Eve ate a literal fruit from a literal tree, offered by a literal walking and talking serpent.

Ask Less how he takes the fall of man. I wouldn't be surprised if he believes they partook of literal fruit.

[marilyn.monroe]

Of course not. But *many* Christians are literalists that do believe Eve ate a literal fruit from a literal tree, offered by a literal walking and talking serpent.

Ask Less how he takes the fall of man. I wouldn't be surprised if he believes they partook of literal fruit.

Eve was tempted by Satan. Why not a literal tree fruit? Fruit is powerful.