Typical
Argumentum Verbosium.
I love it - I got Sammy for back up.
You can have him on your side, as his method of discussion isn't beneficial to his stance; although, he's never shown a stance, only pop comments and insults.
You're severely outnumbered in your God doesn't exist philosophy.
An
Appeal to Majority never meant anything.
I have NAILED you five ways to Sunday already ... you DO NOT believe in the God of the Bible, or Christ, or His miracles - there is NO WAY you can possibly understand one jot or tittle of that book because of your ATTITUDE.
The only thing your nailing is your religion to a cross, where it won't rise again. The typical fallacy of Christians, "
You don't believe, therefore, you cannot understand!"
Like believing gives some special ability to understand. Christianity is collectively confused, with a different denomination on every other corner. And many don't believe the others to be true Christians.
This is like playing a child at chess.
Now, simple faith doesn't mean we are morons; as you think every Pastor in Monroe is (because they run scared from you and your incredible historical knowledge, application of brilliant logic, and thorough understanding of what millions of years can do to turn a pine cone into a Koala Bear)
Irrelevant Humor fallacies, which misrepresent the opposing side never won an argument.
See, it's always tit-for-tat with you, which makes you the horrible, non-attentive debater; you say I shift the burden of proof BUT I am not asking for tax dollars to support my religion - therefore you LOSE that argument every time.
People, like yourself, are FREE to reject the Bible and Christianity - you may CHOOSE not to attend church, give money, hand out bible tracks at the county fair, or serve a meal to a homeless person on Thanksgiving Day; but my CHILDREN are not necessarily free to skip out on public school that shoves your dumb "millions of years" crap about dinosaurs down their throat in kindergarten and first grade, from books that are about 36" wide and 48" tall with BIG PICTURES of Bronchiosaurs - right up through your vestigal whale hind legs crap in high school - without the government up my butt with a microscope claiming truancy or child neglect; even though God gave the children to me and my wife, and, there is NO PROOF for millions of years!
No proof for millions of years?
When volcanic magma cools it creates igneous rock. Within this igneous rock are crystals with radioactive isotopes of potassium-40, which decay at a constant rate into argon-40. When the rocks first cool there isn't any argon-40, only potassium-40; therefore, the rocks are zeroed in. When the rock cools, the timer starts!
When they look at the ratio of potassium-40 and argon-40, in relation to the constant decay rate, they can accurately tell you how old those igneous rocks are. Some creationists say water can affect this, but that's not true, as water would not wash the isotopes out of the inside of crystals.
Get over it. It will ALWAYS be taught in schools, even after you religion is gone.
Guys like me have to WORK hard(and for FREE) to try to get these lies out of textbooks, because your side wants to interfere with our family's faith that I choose to teach, by teaching fairly tales with TAX DOLLARS.
You'll never get it out of textbooks.
Look man, you're not smarter than the pastors; and you're definitely not smarter than the creationist who invented the MRI machine if you are an atheist who thinks you can prove the non-existence of God through name-calling and ad hominem attacks; as well as back-handed slaps at Pastor John MacArthur who is a pretty straight shooter.
Actually, in this matter I am, just as you say you're more intelligent for believing in Yahweh over Allah.
John MacArthur teaches the tyrant god of Romans 9. I'll address the evils of Calvinism in another thread, if needs be, where I can thoughtfully explain this sadistic nonsense.
Do science, study science, use science for GOOD; and you can do all of that while leaving origins out of it - because - NOBODY saw it happen either 4.6 billion years ago, or, 6,000 years ago.
When volcanic magma cools it creates igneous rock. Within this igneous rock are crystals with radioactive isotopes of potassium-40, which decay at a constant rate into argon-40. When the rocks first cool there isn't any argon-40, only potassium-40; therefore, the rocks are zeroed in. When the rock cools, the timer starts!
When they look at the ratio of potassium-40 and argon-40, in relation to the constant decay rate, they can accurately tell you how old those igneous rocks are. Some creationists say water can affect this, but that's not true, as water would not wash the isotopes out of the inside of crystals.
[thinks to self] Maybe if he reads it enough times he'll get it... [/thinks to self]
Your Old Testament Bible references are a joke too. Citations of men disobeying God of their own accord, during/after a war campaign, is not evidence that the God of the Bible is the author of their personal crimes. Number 31:14-16, I think I pointed out before; the soldiers under the officers DISOBEYED the Lord by not killing "these [the women who] caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor", and there was a plague among the congregation for it(consequences) - and the lives of those women that were spared(a GOOD THING), there is no proof of violent slavery occurred that made the God of the Bible gleeful, accepting, and pleased - or any evidence that rape/adultery went unpunished when it happened...
Sick. Is it any wonder the majority of Nazi's believed they were Christians?
They did a study on a group of young Christians. They had them read the war crimes of Moses and Joshua, who did these things for god, as it reads. And after reading they were asked, "Was this acceptable behavior?" They said, "Yes, because God called for it."
They took another group of young Christians. They had them read the same war crimes but changed the name of Moses and Joshua to General so-and-so, and they changed Canaanites to Chinese. After reading they were asked, "Was this acceptable behavior?" They said "NO."
You can read more on this study in "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins.
Your lack of understanding about war(aggressive versus defensive - vengeance for previous crimes/wars etc.), as I pointed out before, is no proof for the non-existence of God. The whole world is cursed with sin; injustice, suffering of every sort happens - and - who is gleefully behind it; Satan, the one who wants everyone made in God's image killed, since he knows one day some seed of a woman is going to bruise his head.
Actually, I know quite a bit about war.
AH, yes! It's SATAN! It's the invisible angel from another dimension, who was cast to Earth!
THIS is why rational people think you're a joke.
The Bible doesn't support the things you say it does, period. The "historical method" you keep blabbering on about also, probably wouldn't hold up to Thomas Jefferson's approach to good government - even though he ripped the miracle accounts of Jesus out of his Bible, he still penned the words "...rights endowed by their Creator..." in our Declaration of Independence. I know you and Jefferson deny miracles, but, there is no way a guy like him would support your communist leanings by shoving "God doesn't exist" down the throat of innocent school children with tax dollars.
I don't care what Jefferson thought on the matter. I'm talking to YOU and others here. Address my points, on topic, or just continue to show your lack of being able to do so..
Again, reasonable answer the discrepancies I've posted in this thread, which was the purpose of this thread - to discuss
The Impossible Life of Jesus - The Historical Method. If you're able to. If not, I'll continue to point out your lack of being able to do so.
...we'll come at ya and rip on your religion too...hope you don't mind.
Being it on, it just gives me a bigger stage to offer more reasons as to why your faith is a joke. I have just begun to share the reasons why people need to give up these primitive beliefs. The more you respond the way you do, the more you play into my hand.
Sammy told me that no one takes what I say seriously, but I have caused quite a few people to lose faith in these absurd beliefs, over the past few years. I've led more out of this absurd faith and into reason than I ever won into Christianity as a Christian. I have the evidence to show I'm accomplishing something in helping people to think critically.
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