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No State Dollars - No toll on the State Side of Bridge... 
Sounds like there's not a lot many can complain about - except those who profit from the other bridge  8*


DETROIT, MI - The deal is signed.
Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder and Canadian Transport Minister Denis Lebel on Friday signed an agreement to build a bridge over the Detroit River between Canada and the United States, as hundreds of dignitaries looked on in Detroit's Cobo Center.
Cobo is about 4 miles from the site of where the New International Trade Crossing is to be constructed. The existing options to cross between the two countries are the privately owned Ambassador Bridge and the Detroit-Windsor Tunnel.
"Today represents a major step in Michigan’s reinvention," Snyder, who has made the bridge a top priority in his year-and-a-half in office, said in a news release before the signing.
Speaking on behalf of the business community, Jim Nicholson, president and CEO of Detroit-based PVS Chemicals, said during the ceremony: "We are all in on this bridge.
This will be a game changer for our state, for our city, for the people of Delray and for the people of Canada."
Lt. Gov. Brian Calley said "special interests" were overcome in crafting the agreement, a reference to Manuel "Matty" Maroun, owner of the Ambassador Bridge who opposes building a new public bridge.

http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2012/06/michigan_gov_rick_snyder_canad.html
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Re: "Visionary" Snyder gets Bridge Deal without State Tax Dollars
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2012, 12:58:30 AM »

Why is it so terrible to let the bridge be developed privately? The land is already developed and the trusses are built. Make way for more Canadian waste.
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Re: "Visionary" Snyder gets Bridge Deal without State Tax Dollars
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2012, 06:49:13 AM »

Beyond the State saying no tax dollars...  the larger issue was the Canadians wanted it in a different location.   

Have you ever crossed the Bridge and been in the traffic jam that it creates on the Windsor side?   Makes sense that since they wanted to move it - they pay for it and take control. 

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The new crossing, to be built roughly two miles downriver from the 83-year-old Ambassador Bridge, will connect the industrial neighborhoods of Delray in Detroit and Brighton Beach. Canada already has begun construction on the Windsor-Essex Parkway, a $1.4 billion highway extension that will allow bridge traffic to bypass 17 stoplights and downtown Windsor.

BUILDING THE BRIDGE
The Snyder administration released the following 15-point summary of the New International Trade Crossing agreement:

• Michigan will not be obligated to pay any of the costs of the NITC and no state appropriation will be required.

• The Crossing Agreement provides that Canada, through a Canadian entity to be created called the Crossing Authority, will be responsible for the design, construction, finance, operation and maintenance of the NITC.

• Signing the agreement on behalf of Michigan are Gov. Snyder, the MDOT director and the president of the Michigan Strategic Fund. Signing on behalf of Canada are Transport Minister Denis Lebel and a representative of the Crossing Authority.

• Actual design, construction, operation and maintenance of the NITC will be done by a private entity through a 40-50 year public-private partnership agreement (P-3 Agreement) between the Crossing Authority and the private entity as concessionaire.

• Canada will make annual “availability payments” to the concessionaire to pay for the costs of financing the design and construction of the NITC and for the on-going operation and maintenance expenses during the terms of the P-3 agreement.

• The government of Canada will also pay all costs of required land acquisition in Canada and in Michigan and will also pay for the construction of the interchange to connect the NITC to I-75.

• No tolls will be charged in Michigan for the use of the NITC. Canada will charge tolls in Canada for use of the bridge.

• Toll revenues received by Canada will be used to reimburse the Canadian government for its advances for NITC-related costs and for its annual availability payments to the concessionaire.

• Canada’s expenditure of up to $550 million will be eligible as matching funds for U.S. federal aid for Michigan highway projects.

• An International Authority will be established with three members appointed by Michigan and three members appointed by Canada.

• The International Authority will oversee the competitive procurement process to select the concessionaire. It must approve the forms of the Request for Qualification (RFQ), the Requests for Proposals (RFP), the winning proposal and the P-3 agreement.

• The International Authority will oversee compliance by the Crossing Authority with the terms of the crossing agreement and compliance by the concessionaire with the terms of the P-3 Agreement, both before and after the opening of the NITC.

• The RFP and the P-3 Agreement must contain provisions for a community benefits plan and for the involvement of the affected communities in both Michigan and Canada.

• Effectiveness of the crossing agreement is subject to approval of the U.S. Secretary of State, in accordance with the provisions of Article I, Section 10 of the U.S. Constitution and federal laws implementing those provisions.

• No state or local entity in Michigan will be obligated to make any availability payments or any other payments to the concessionaire or to any third party in connection with the design, construction, operation and maintenance of the NITC.

rest of article at:
http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2012/06/snyder_by_building_bridge_mich.html#incart_river_default
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Re: "Visionary" Snyder gets Bridge Deal without State Tax Dollars
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2012, 07:44:41 AM »

Why is it so terrible to let the bridge be developed privately? The land is already developed and the trusses are built. Make way for more Canadian waste.
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25% of ALL US-Canada trade goes through the Detroit/Windsor border.  Not just the "waste".  This is going to create 10,000 jobs and bring BILLIONS of dollars into the SE Michigan economy.

People who will oppose this will do so purely for partisan reasons.
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Re: "Visionary" Snyder gets Bridge Deal without State Tax Dollars
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2012, 08:15:26 AM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Water_Bridge

It seems to be more about Canada than the US.

They can keep their trash and toxic waste!!
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Re: "Visionary" Snyder gets Bridge Deal without State Tax Dollars
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2012, 02:59:54 PM »

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25% of ALL US-Canada trade goes through the Detroit/Windsor border.  Not just the "waste".  This is going to create 10,000 jobs and bring BILLIONS of dollars into the SE Michigan economy.

People who will oppose this will do so purely for partisan reasons.

I must admit this looks like a DAMN good deal for Michigan. I don't see any downside. There's gotta be a catch somewhere (Canada gets Michigan for cheap or something... then again that's not a bad deal either)

Snyder did a good thing here.
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« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2012, 04:26:02 PM »

[/font]http://www.freep.com/article/20120615/BUSINESS06/206150456/A-bridge-deal-today-no-guarantee-of-a-smooth-road-ahead

The Moroun referendum: Ambassador Bridge owner Manuel (Matty) Moroun and his family have begun a petition drive to put a referendum on the statewide ballot in November requiring voter approval to build a new international bridge or tunnel for motor vehicles.

Known as "The People Should Decide," the referendum would amend the state constitution to require such a vote both statewide and in the municipality where the bridge or tunnel is proposed.

Canada will put up all the money needed to buy out property owners in Detroit, and the Michigan Department of Transportation will exercise the state's eminent domain power to seize property from owners who resist selling.


I am sick of the broke *** government bowing down to foreign governments for money. Again, Frack Canada's trash and the trade imbalance!
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Re: "Visionary" Snyder gets Bridge Deal without State Tax Dollars
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2012, 04:33:57 PM »

The only person opposed to this is Maroon and that is out of personal greed.  You don't like Canadain waste coming into Michigan take it up with your representative but don't hold the rest of the State industries hostage because you have suddenly become environmentally AWAKE.

Hey look over there.... progress is coming!!!  RUN!!
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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2012, 04:39:50 PM »

The only person opposed to this is Maroon and that is out of personal greed.  You don't like Canadain waste coming into Michigan take it up with your representative but don't hold the rest of the State industries hostage because you have suddenly become environmentally AWAKE.

Hey look over there.... progress is coming!!!  RUN!!
Your so-called "progress" is killing off people and the Earth and treading on individual rights.
There is no need for a new bridge. If they want to build one they should put American interests first and finish the one started.
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Re: "Visionary" Snyder gets Bridge Deal without State Tax Dollars
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2012, 04:43:16 PM »

Your so-called "progress" is killing off people and the Earth and treading on individual rights.
There is no need for a new bridge. If they want to build one they should put American interests first and finish the one started.

Building the bridge is not needed AND killing off people?  AND ruining the earth?  AND treading on individual right?

You are WRONG on all counts.
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Re: "Visionary" Snyder gets Bridge Deal without State Tax Dollars
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2012, 04:49:11 PM »

Building the bridge is not needed AND killing off people?  AND ruining the earth?  AND treading on individual right?

You are WRONG on all counts.
I said so-called "progess" was doing that, and no I do not see the evidence the bridge is needed.
It sure as heck doesn't need to be built with Chinese steel!!!
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Re: "Visionary" Snyder gets Bridge Deal without State Tax Dollars
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2012, 04:55:56 PM »

Construction is America's most deadly occupation, especially in states that have the "right to work". There very well good be fatalities involved.
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Re: "Visionary" Snyder gets Bridge Deal without State Tax Dollars
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2012, 06:50:33 PM »

Construction is America's most deadly occupation, especially in states that have the "right to work". There very well good be fatalities involved.
Last I knew, mining and farming were the most dangerous occupations.There were fatalities when they built the Mighty Mac,too; should we tear it down? What does "right to work" have to do with safety? OSHA goes to non-union job sites, too. If you ever waited for a truckload of goods from Canada to arrive, and were told "he's been waiting for fours at the bridge", you might have a different slant on whether or not another bridge is needed!
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« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2012, 07:00:16 PM »

Last I knew, mining and farming were the most dangerous occupations.There were fatalities when they built the Mighty Mac,too; should we tear it down? What does "right to work" have to do with safety? OSHA goes to non-union job sites, too. If you ever waited for a truckload of goods from Canada to arrive, and were told "he's been waiting for fours at the bridge", you might have a different slant on whether or not another bridge is needed!
In the new millennium, Michigan has arrived at its true destiny: thralldom to one or another foreign country.
 
For most of the first decade, Canadian-born Jennifer Granholm occupied the governor's office, protected against attack by a seemingly impenetrable phalanx of unionized state employees while she installed Canadian-style government, including tax increases to pay for cuts in other taxes that silently go back up a couple years later. From this underground bunker, she was derisively called Granmole, despite publishing, with assistance from Cuba, a house organ called Granma.
 
In 2011, Rick Snyder became governor. Michigan's affluent poked their heads out from their tax shelters in the western part of the state. The ex-owner of Gateway--now a province of the People's Republic of China--had a better idea: rather than Canada, he intends to make Michigan another province of China, probably an automobile company.
 http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Michigan

http://irlee.umich.edu/Publications/Docs/RightToWorkLawsAndFatalitiesInConstruction.pdf
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