MonroeTalks.com > Categories > Politics and Government > The Local Republican Agenda, what is it exactly?


Pages: [1]   Go Down

Author Topic: The Local Republican Agenda, what is it exactly?  (Read 644 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

SMASH

  • Hero Talker
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4558
The Local Republican Agenda, what is it exactly?
« on: June 18, 2012, 05:23:25 PM »

Per the normal ebb and flow of local politics and the election cycle ABATE Region 18 has been attending events and fund raisers for the local candidates that support our issues.
We have also invited some of them to come to our monthly meetings to speecify and stump for their individual races.

Some bizarre stuff has came up regarding the local Republican Party that on it's face makes no sense.

Like "Republicans" recruiting other "Republicans" to run against already elected Republicans.
Generally speeking you don't see this a lot on the local level during the Presidential cycle, the Parties tend to look for Party Unity.
Unless they have adopted the "Shoot Yourself in the Foot" Agenda?

It don't seem to make sense to drain the coffers of an established office holder in a Primary if you already have the seat. Support the incumbant, right?

This I have to believe is the on going struggle between the Establishment and the Tea Party folks here in the County.

The one I find interesting is the Probate Judge race.
Several candidates, one seat.
Yet one "Democrat" keeps showing up at Republican events.
Jill LaVoy.
She attended the Lincoln-Reagan Dinner and ponyed up 600 bucks for the Monroe County Flag that was auctioned off.
This is the biggest fund raiser for Monroe County Republicans held. To my understanding the funds raised go to support local Republicans running for office. Seems funny a Democrat would "donate" so much to that particular effort?
Then she was seen at the local Republicans Womens Committee luncheon. I can't believe a Democrat would pick up much support at a function like that?

It would be nice if Judges and Candidates for Judge just ran non-partisan.

If there is an Agenda here it sure is hard to make sense of what the local Republicans are trying to do without ripping their Party to pieces.
Logged

TLaitur

  • Hero Talker
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 427
Re: The Local Republican Agenda, what is it exactly?
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2012, 06:50:51 PM »

Smash my friend:

I am usually pretty good at reading between the lines; but your post seems to have me stumped.

I've known you to be straight to the point in all the conversations that I've had with you in person; and same with your posts here.  This post misses that mark.

For what it's worth, and I am sure that you know this, judicial races are nonpartisan.

I don't know if there is any reason why the candidate did as stated; perhaps it is nothing more than doing what a candidate is supposed to do; make contacts with members of the electorate and advocate for their vote.

Not having attended the LR Dinner; I don't know who all attended.  But in talking with several of the attorneys in the two judicial horseraces, I suspect that more than one of the judicial candidates appeared at the dinner.


Logged

Maverick

  • Hero Talker
  • ******
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 1132
Re: The Local Republican Agenda, what is it exactly?
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2012, 07:08:44 PM »

My understanding also is that judge races are non partisan as they should be.
Logged
When in danger or in doubt, Run in circles scream and shout !!

jbs49238

  • Hero Talker
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5201
Re: The Local Republican Agenda, what is it exactly?
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2012, 08:44:06 PM »

Per the normal ebb and flow of local politics and the election cycle ABATE Region 18 has been attending events and fund raisers for the local candidates that support our issues.
We have also invited some of them to come to our monthly meetings to speecify and stump for their individual races.

Some bizarre stuff has came up regarding the local Republican Party that on it's face makes no sense.

Like "Republicans" recruiting other "Republicans" to run against already elected Republicans.
Generally speeking you don't see this a lot on the local level during the Presidential cycle, the Parties tend to look for Party Unity.
Unless they have adopted the "Shoot Yourself in the Foot" Agenda?

It don't seem to make sense to drain the coffers of an established office holder in a Primary if you already have the seat. Support the incumbant, right?

This I have to believe is the on going struggle between the Establishment and the Tea Party folks here in the County.

The one I find interesting is the Probate Judge race.
Several candidates, one seat.
Yet one "Democrat" keeps showing up at Republican events.
Jill LaVoy.
She attended the Lincoln-Reagan Dinner and ponyed up 600 bucks for the Monroe County Flag that was auctioned off.
This is the biggest fund raiser for Monroe County Republicans held. To my understanding the funds raised go to support local Republicans running for office. Seems funny a Democrat would "donate" so much to that particular effort?
Then she was seen at the local Republicans Womens Committee luncheon. I can't believe a Democrat would pick up much support at a function like that?

It would be nice if Judges and Candidates for Judge just ran non-partisan.

If there is an Agenda here it sure is hard to make sense of what the local Republicans are trying to do without ripping their Party to pieces.

A lot of folks run as "something" because that is how to win in certain areas.

Heck in my US House district 2 (maybe 3) cycles ago a prominent Democrat switched parties when he faced a Democrat opponent he knew would beat him in the primary, but in a heavier than average Republican district he knew if he could win the R primary that blind partisanism might just carry him through.  Tim Walberg did a nice job of weeding him out though.  It is all about party politics and power retention SMASH.

Nice to see you are still trying to choose "your handlers" though... Isn't that what you always criticize the rest of us for?    8)

You should be pleased Ms. Lavoy forked over $600 to YOUR TEAM, no confused.

Just like with your opposition to the bridge... You seems to always be LOOKING to kick the gift horse in the nutz.
Logged

T-M-T

  • Hero Talker
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3951
Re: The Local Republican Agenda, what is it exactly?
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2012, 09:05:34 PM »


The one I find interesting is the Probate Judge race.
Several candidates, one seat.
Yet one "Democrat" keeps showing up at Republican events.
Jill LaVoy.
She attended the Lincoln-Reagan Dinner and ponyed up 600 bucks for the Monroe County Flag that was auctioned off.
This is the biggest fund raiser for Monroe County Republicans held. To my understanding the funds raised go to support local Republicans running for office. Seems funny a Democrat would "donate" so much to that particular effort?
Then she was seen at the local Republicans Womens Committee luncheon. I can't believe a Democrat would pick up much support at a function like that?

It would be nice if Judges and Candidates for Judge just ran non-partisan.

Why wouldn't she go to as many political events as possible?  All she would have to do is mention that Arnold is an incumbent appointed by Granholm and she could get the Republican/Tea Partiers foaming at the mouth and ready to support her candidacy.
Logged

Professor H

  • Hero Talker
  • ******
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 6888
Re: The Local Republican Agenda, what is it exactly?
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2012, 07:52:25 AM »

Local politics - not much in any agenda that I'm aware of because there's
not a whole lot of other issues that they can control.

The Sterotype of party is all they have.

Surprised we don't have more Independents running.

Logged
First, it was not a strip bar, it was an erotic club. And second, what can I say? I'm a night owl.
Marion Berry

But we have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.
Nancy Pelosi

marilyn.monroe

  • Hero Talker
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 9218
Re: The Local Republican Agenda, what is it exactly?
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2012, 08:00:05 AM »

I'd consider Jill LaVoy for Judge. I don't know what political party she belongs to, and I don't really care.
Logged

Maverick

  • Hero Talker
  • ******
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 1132
Re: The Local Republican Agenda, what is it exactly?
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2012, 08:21:41 AM »

We should eliminate party politics all together. From the local elections all the way to the presidency. In my opinion that's where all the trouble is.
Logged
When in danger or in doubt, Run in circles scream and shout !!

marilyn.monroe

  • Hero Talker
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 9218
Re: The Local Republican Agenda, what is it exactly?
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2012, 08:34:42 AM »

We should eliminate party politics all together. From the local elections all the way to the presidency. In my opinion that's where all the trouble is.
That's what was intended with the creation of political parties, to make trouble!
Logged

TLaitur

  • Hero Talker
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 427
Re: The Local Republican Agenda, what is it exactly?
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2012, 09:06:17 AM »

Surprised we don't have more Independents running.

I think there still is time to register and run as an independant.
Logged

SMASH

  • Hero Talker
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4558
Re: The Local Republican Agenda, what is it exactly?
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2012, 01:33:40 AM »

Smash my friend:

I am usually pretty good at reading between the lines; but your post seems to have me stumped.

I've known you to be straight to the point in all the conversations that I've had with you in person; and same with your posts here.  This post misses that mark.

To a degree, I agree with you. Maybe this did miss the mark to start. Something is not adding up and as of yet I can't get a handle on what is going on.
It makes no sense for a Party to run a candidate against an incumbant and weaken itself by draining funds from that incumbant and thereby lose the race.
If the Party in this Presidential Election year is all about Party Unity why would you challenge a sitting Republican and not put all your resources into winning the highest office?
Why challenge a sitting County Commissioner for example?


For what it's worth, and I am sure that you know this, judicial races are nonpartisan.

Yep, sort of non partisan.

I don't know if there is any reason why the candidate did as stated; perhaps it is nothing more than doing what a candidate is supposed to do; make contacts with members of the electorate and advocate for their vote.

Not having attended the LR Dinner; I don't know who all attended.  But in talking with several of the attorneys in the two judicial horseraces, I suspect that more than one of the judicial candidates appeared at the dinner.

Yep, two.
« Last Edit: June 21, 2012, 01:49:40 AM by SMASH »
Logged

SMASH

  • Hero Talker
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4558
Re: The Local Republican Agenda, what is it exactly?
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2012, 02:03:01 AM »

A lot of folks run as "something" because that is how to win in certain areas.

Heck in my US House district 2 (maybe 3) cycles ago a prominent Democrat switched parties when he faced a Democrat opponent he knew would beat him in the primary, but in a heavier than average Republican district he knew if he could win the R primary that blind partisanism might just carry him through.  Tim Walberg did a nice job of weeding him out though.  It is all about party politics and power retention SMASH.

Nice to see you are still trying to choose "your handlers" though... Isn't that what you always criticize the rest of us for?    8)

Nope. Again you miss.

You should be pleased Ms. Lavoy forked over $600 to YOUR TEAM, no confused.

I don't have a team...yet.

Just like with your opposition to the bridge... You seems to always be LOOKING to kick the gift horse in the nutz.

The government gives you no "gifts" they just take by force from one and give to another.
You think Canada has the "money" to give in the first place? They have he same banking cartel running their "system". Or, did you conviently dismiss the video I posted with the 12 year old explaining their banking scam?
Have you seen any articles, or videos, or news reports, from Canadian citizens all fired up about his new bridge they are supposedly going to pay for?
They, the government, are the ones who will break your leg, then give you a crutch and tell you; See if it wern't for us you would have to crawl!
You would say, "Thanks Boss."
OBEY.

Logged

SMASH

  • Hero Talker
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4558
Re: The Local Republican Agenda, what is it exactly?
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2012, 02:06:05 AM »

Local politics - not much in any agenda that I'm aware of because there's
not a whole lot of other issues that they can control.

The Sterotype of party is all they have.

Surprised we don't have more Independents running.

Why are you suprised?
Logged

SMASH

  • Hero Talker
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4558
Re: The Local Republican Agenda, what is it exactly?
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2012, 02:07:14 AM »

We should eliminate party politics all together. From the local elections all the way to the presidency. In my opinion that's where all the trouble is.

So did George Washington!
Logged

marilyn.monroe

  • Hero Talker
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 9218
Re: The Local Republican Agenda, what is it exactly?
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2012, 07:58:16 AM »

So did George Washington!
So he appointed Alexander Hamilton Sec Treasury.
Logged
Pages: [1]   Go Up