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[MonroeMonkey]

I encourage anyone here who's come out of Christianity, to post the things about the Bible they found to be strange and absurd, whether the promotion of war crimes, misogyny, or whatever.


I'll start:

1 Corinthians 11

Women are shamed for not covering their heads in prayer. Men are not to cover their heads in prayer, but women are. WHAT THE HECK!?

Where is the logic behind that? This was formed out of pure arbitrary and superstitious whims, with no ground of reality to back it. Although, a few verses later Paul appeals to *invisible* angels. Sigh...

[livewire]

Maybe women needed to keep their hair covered, because it was greasy.  This was, after all, before the invention of shampoo.  Mens hair was probably shorter, and less greasy.




You gotta lighten up a little, Xerxes.  You take life too seriously!   

[MonroeMonkey]

You gotta lighten up a little, Xerxes.  You take life too seriously!   

Not really. I enjoy discussing religion and philosophy. It's a hobby of mine. I don't lose any sleep from all this, as I know it's all a play that humans partake in. Now, I can get frustrated when people avoid the point of the topic, but whatcha gonna do? In person, I'm given to playfully humor and laugh all the time.

Once you come out of Christianity, it becomes a source of entertainment to talk about the crazy things one used to believe. For example, David is about to go to war for King Saul, in the Bible, and Saul asks him to bring him back a certain number of Philistine foreskins. David brings him back buckets of even more than he asked. "Here, My King, a bucket of Philistine penis, as you asked," said  David. "How delightful!" proclaimed King Saul. "Oh, looks like you cut a bit too much off there!" WHAT THE HECK!? It's sick, but it makes me laugh at how sick it is.

This type of discussion can be both entertaining and helps people to realize they are believing some weird things not supported by reality.

[sammy]

Sigh... Anyone who cannot find incongruities in the Bible has to be Less or marilyn. Interesting that you would capitalize Bible in this thread. Habit? Sorry for trolling!

[sammy]

Not really. I enjoy discussing religion and philosophy. It's a hobby of mine. I don't lose any sleep from all this, as I know it's all a play that humans partake in. Now, I can get frustrated when people avoid the point of the topic, but whatcha gonna do? In person, I'm given to playfully humor and laugh all the time.

Once you come out of Christianity, it becomes a source of entertainment to talk about the crazy things one used to believe. For example, David is about to go to war for King Saul, in the Bible, and Saul asks him to bring him back a certain number of Philistine foreskins. David brings him back buckets of even more than he asked. "Here, My King, a bucket of Philistine penis, as you asked," said  David. "How delightful!" proclaimed King Saul. "Oh, looks like you cut a bit too much off there!" WHAT THE HECK!? It's sick, but it makes me laugh at how sick it is.

This type of discussion can be both entertaining and helps people to realize they are believing some weird things not supported by reality.

What is reality, really? Can anyone really know what reality is, or is reality really an unknown? Is your reality the same as my reality, or is reality only in ones perception of reality? Been wondering about this since Philosophy 101 at CMU, and wondering how I got this far in life without an answer. Maybe you can help me?

[MonroeMonkey]

What is reality, really? Can anyone really know what reality is, or is reality really an unknown? Is your reality the same as my reality, or is reality only in ones perception of reality? Been wondering about this since Philosophy 101 at CMU, and wondering how I got this far in life without an answer.

For someone who has studied philosophy, you ought to know not everyone is a Kantian; some are Hegelian, etc. While I think we are limited to a certain degree by our faculties, some things we can know for sure.

You've heard of Russel's Teapot, being you've studied philosophy? You've heard of mathematical reasoning and probabilities? You've heard of the various epistemologies? I think some wish to play dumb so they can hold on to their extraordinary claims that they cannot give demonstrable evidences for.

Sammy, you'd agree that if I throw an apple up, right now, in an empty sky, it will probably fall back down without hindrance? If you say, "Yes." We can build from there on a certain method of determining what is reality in relation to probability.

[MonroeMonkey]

Numbers 5


If a man becomes jealous, thinking his wife is cheating on him. He takes his wife to the priest. He takes dust from the floor of the tabernacle and makes her drink the bitter water. If she is innocent, nothing will happen. If she is guilty, her belly will swell and her thigh rot.

WHAT THE HECK!? Sounds like some black magic!

Oh, and why doesn't the man have to drink bitter water if the woman becomes jealous, and thinks her husband is cheating on her? Oh, yeah, the bible is misogynistic.

[sammy]

For someone who has studied philosophy, you ought to know not everyone is a Kantian; some are Hegelian, etc. While I think we are limited to a certain degree by our faculties, some things we can know for sure.

You've heard of Russel's Teapot, being you've studied philosophy? You've heard of mathematical reasoning and probabilities? You've heard of the various epistemologies? I think some wish to play dumb so they can hold on to their extraordinary claims that they cannot give demonstrable evidences for.

Sammy, you'd agree that if I throw an apple up, right now, in an empty sky, it will probably fall back down without hindrance? If you say, "Yes." We can build from there on a certain method of determining what is reality in relation to probability.

I swoon!Philosophy 101 at CMU is no match for one who can make fun of my meager knowledge of philosophy. Yep, the apple will fall down. Newton 101! You build on that, if it strikes you as something that puts you above the great unwashed! This whole post says" I'm WAY smarter than you are." Gotta love those with those big cojones, at least those that are not "BLUE"!BTW, I never said I "studied" Philosophy. I took one course in college, and decided then and there that the study of philosophy was better left to those who had no skills with which to make a living.

[Flanders]

If anyone, even your own family suggests worshipping another God, kill them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)

Better be careful X..

[sammy]

He's exempt,somehow. He'll tell you why. After all, he's the one with all the answers!

[sammy]

You sleepin' X. It be only nine at night. C'mon out and play!

[MonroeMonkey]

The devil possesses Judas, and betrays Jesus, knowing he will lose his powers if Jesus is crucified. "And Satan possessing Judas, he went out from among them."

It's clear these devils know who Jesus is, as they always cry out saying he's the Christ. So, the devil knows this, but possesses Judas, so he can help defeat his own powers?

WHAT THE HECK? That's some poor fiction writing.

[sammy]

I saw it as poor fiction as well.So glad you pointed it out.

[MonroeMonkey]

I took one course in college, and decided then and there that the study of philosophy was better left to those who had no skills with which to make a living.

I study a college course worth of philosophy every few weeks. Why? Because I enjoy it, just as I enjoy studying music composition and writing in the baroque style. But I'm sure you're a better composer than me too; even though you haven't put the work into it. You know why you can't match me in a game of logic, philosophy, music, etc.? Because you're too lazy to educate yourself on these things.

It was the bible that said, "A lazy man is wiser in his own eyes than seven men who can render a reason." Ever notice, people like you who haven't read much, due to being lazy, know more than someone who has read seventy books by scholars?

It was Schopenhauer who wrote "Thirty Eight Ways to Win an Argument - The Art of Controversy." You should read it. You'll realize you have no foundation as a logical thinker. Ever hear of the fallacy called The Exception That Disproves the Rule? Read your last post and look into Wittgenstein and other great philosophers who made a much better living than we do; Wittgenstein gave away millions and still made a nice living.

I think you're jealous, so you just like to piss on the threads of those who have taken the hard work to study these matters.

[MonroeMonkey]

You amaze me with your hatred ...

Again, you're void of reason. A hypocrite.

I've admitted the reason I debate here, which partly entertainment, partly ego, partly my need to contend, partly to move people to critically question the absurd beliefs of the bible.

And I never said the bible was completely void of wisdom. As it reads, "As iron sharpens iron, so man sharpens another." Debate can be like the sparking of iron and iron, and it can also sharpen us, making us question why we believe what we believe. Debate, as iron slapping together, isn't always pretty, but it can aid in making us think.

Why do you troll and add nothing to a discussion? Partly entertainment, partly ego, partly your need to contend, etc., BUT you have nothing intelligent to offer the topics themselves, because you haven't taken the time to educate yourself. As you said, you took one course and that was it, and now you just pester those who have taken the time and hard work to study these matters.

Where the rubber meets the road, you're the man? Again, *hypocrite* comes to mind. Examine your reasoning and get a clue. Too easy.