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Re: Obama Asserts Executive Privilege on "Fast and Furious"
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2012, 03:05:17 PM »

So, where are all the lefties on this forum, supporting BO?


Come on!!!  I want to hear your explanation why Obama did this, and WHY is it acceptable???





{{{ crickets chirping }}}

I think FB gave an appropriate response, but as for the others and most of the media it took until yesterday to determine:

- This is no big deal.
- W did it all the time.
- This is an election year ploy.
- Anyone who demands Holder and Obama come clean is a racist doing the bidding of the GOP.

These will be the excuses we hear from the left because it is impossible to defend the indefensable.

Want to beat Obama... lets do as Fry suggests.... LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMY!!!!!
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Re: Obama Asserts Executive Privilege on "Fast and Furious"
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2012, 05:47:32 PM »

Prof. H also got it right.

I don't mean to come across as equating a human life as stealing a cookie but, to explain it in simple terms:  Bobby gets caught by Mommy sneaking a cookie.  Bobby states "But Jimmy did it, too; you're not punishing him!"  Mommy states "But I caught You!  If Jimmy told you to jump off abridge would you? Would it be OK then?"
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Re: Obama Asserts Executive Privilege on "Fast and Furious"
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2012, 10:15:53 PM »

I believe they were trying to find out where the Mexicans were getting their guns, and it went horribly wrong, and now they are trying to cover it up which is even worse, and it's not acceptable.


Your argument makes no sense. How does making weapons available to the drug gangs provide us with information as to where they're getting the guns? How about "creating" the source of where they getting the guns and then slam the door shut and take credit
for shutting it down. Then make the case about the violence in Mexico being exacerbated by automatic weapon sales coming from the United States. Then, to do our part, we must crack down on the sale of automatic weapons.
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Re: Obama Asserts Executive Privilege on "Fast and Furious"
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2012, 10:38:19 PM »


Your argument makes no sense.
It is not "MY" argument. I was just stating what the official report was, and then my feelings about it.

Make of it what you will.
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Re: Obama Asserts Executive Privilege on "Fast and Furious"
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2012, 10:54:54 PM »

I believe this scandal goes all the way to the Oval Office. Obtaining the evidence
is another story. Regardless, there isn't going to be much of anything coming out before the election. Obama's & Co. narrative is it's all hardball Republican politics.
Not all bad actually. We're talking about Executive Priv. not the economy or deficits or unemployment. After Obama wins the election he'll have more
"flexibility" to handle that "Fast & Furious" thing. Heck, if he can get away
with that little immigration edict dealy-bob a week before his speech to
Hispanic Leaders Conference (or whatever), and before the election, Lord only knows what the annoited one would think possible when he doesn't have to answer to the electorate.
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Re: Obama Asserts Executive Privilege on "Fast and Furious"
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2012, 11:29:15 PM »

It is not "MY" argument. I was just stating what the official report was, and then my feelings about it.

Make of it what you will.

FB:
You wrote:

"I believe they were trying to find out where the Mexicans were getting their guns, and it went horribly wrong, and now they are trying to cover it up which is even worse, and it's not acceptable."

You didn't write "according to an official report" blah blah blah you wrote "I believe"blah, blah, blah. You parroted a ridiculous argument and didn't ridicule the absurd argument when you expressed your "feelings".

I refer you back to my post number 17 and offer you the opportunity to take
another shot at making a credible reply.
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Re: Obama Asserts Executive Privilege on "Fast and Furious"
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2012, 07:19:02 AM »

How is the government any different from the gangsters? Bush passed the baton to Obama and he took off running with it. I wouldn't be surprised if they were arming the Sinaloa cartel intentionally.
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Re: Obama Asserts Executive Privilege on "Fast and Furious"
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2012, 07:55:06 AM »

Whatever John. The "I believe" part was the condensed version of the story the way I heard it. The rest of what I said was my feelings on the matter.

Again, whatever their intentions were, covering it up is even worse, and he's still a better pick than Romney, and I still wish it was Bill Clinton on the ballot instead of either of them.

It is my opinion that the Republicans would actually rather have Obama in office. That way they can get passed what they want, block what they don't, and blame him for everything.

It's a win win for them.
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Re: Obama Asserts Executive Privilege on "Fast and Furious"
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2012, 08:09:57 AM »

Whatever John. The "I believe" part was the condensed version of the story the way I heard it. The rest of what I said was my feelings on the matter.

Again, whatever their intentions were, covering it up is even worse, and he's still a better pick than Romney, and I still wish it was Bill Clinton on the ballot instead of either of them.

It is my opinion that the Republicans would actually rather have Obama in office. That way they can get passed what they want, block what they don't, and blame him for everything.

It's a win win for them.
The GOP sure does like to blame Obama! I think Obama has done better than Congress! Congress doesn't seem to get much done either way. They waste time and money on crap and then go back and argue about it some more. Prima effin Donnas.
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« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2012, 02:25:44 PM »

Report: GOP wants 'a scalp' in Holder investigation

According to the Daily Beast, Republicans wanted a top Justice Department official fired in exchange for dropping a contempt vote against Attorney General Eric Holder. Meanwhile, they still say Holder is not telling them the truth. Former aide to Attorney General Holder Matthew Miller joins Ed Schultz.

The ED Show - Report: GOP wants 'a scalp' in Holder investigation
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Re: Obama Asserts Executive Privilege on "Fast and Furious"
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2012, 03:44:30 PM »

Report: GOP wants 'a scalp' in Holder investigation

According to the Daily Beast, Republicans wanted a top Justice Department official fired in exchange for dropping a contempt vote against Attorney General Eric Holder. Meanwhile, they still say Holder is not telling them the truth. Former aide to Attorney General Holder Matthew Miller joins Ed Schultz.

The ED Show - Report: GOP wants 'a scalp' in Holder investigation
They want scrotum change purses!!
Good people lost their lives due to this criminal activity. Justice must be served. I think there is more to operation.
Mexico is a mess. The human situation is horrible.
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Re: Obama Asserts Executive Privilege on "Fast and Furious"
« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2012, 08:46:21 PM »

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Re: Obama Asserts Executive Privilege on "Fast and Furious"
« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2012, 09:30:26 PM »

Whatever John. The "I believe" part was the condensed version of the story the way I heard it. The rest of what I said was my feelings on the matter.

Again, whatever their intentions were, covering it up is even worse, and he's still a better pick than Romney, and I still wish it was Bill Clinton on the ballot instead of either of them.

It is my opinion that the Republicans would actually rather have Obama in office. That way they can get passed what they want, block what they don't, and blame him for everything.

It's a win win for them.

FB:
"Whatever John". What are you 16 years old?

Further, if that is the way you "heard it", and believed it, then I strongly suggest you
widen your sources of information.
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Re: Obama Asserts Executive Privilege on "Fast and Furious"
« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2012, 10:20:07 PM »

FB:
"Whatever John". What are you 16 years old?

Further, if that is the way you "heard it", and believed it, then I strongly suggest you
widen your sources of information.
But he's correct and you're wrong. So it's true what they say about Fox News viewers  ;)

Issa: no evidence of White House cover-up of 'Fast and Furious'

House oversight committee chairman Darrell Issa said on Sunday that his committee has seen no evidence of White House involvement.

Republican Issa's committee voted last week to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt, sending the matter to the full House for a vote expected this week. The vote quickly escalated the standoff with the administration over documents related to the now-defunct program in which agents allowed guns to be moved across the border with the hope of tracking them to Mexican cartels. Many weapons were lost and two were found at the scene in the killing of a U.S. border agent.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2018520900_holder25.html
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