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Re: County's Under World Being Mapped
« Reply #45 on: June 28, 2012, 08:27:28 AM »

Saw someone report to the admin and found the complainer and the admin in this topic.
Not sure of what the problem is.
Looks like this is post #38....but that giant administrative eraser may reduce it a bit.

You must have posted this in the wrong thread possibly?

I haven't read or seen anything remotely "complaint" worthy...

Also didn't realize anyone had access to see who complained about what - be it anonymous or not -

 
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Re: County's Under World Being Mapped
« Reply #46 on: June 28, 2012, 08:40:19 AM »

Paranoid much?
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Re: County's Under World Being Mapped
« Reply #47 on: June 28, 2012, 11:29:20 AM »

You must have posted this in the wrong thread possibly?
Possibly....I just saw family man reporting something to the mod and they were both in this thread at the same time.

I haven't read or seen anything remotely "complaint" worthy...
Nor have I...perhaps family man would be willing to reveal what his complaint was about.

Also didn't realize anyone had access to see who complained about what - be it anonymous or not -
The users online has a hyperlink to show what's being viewed...but sadly oftentimes any mention of it brings forth those that would rather maintain their ability to snitch and cause grief behind the scenes. That hyperlink is now only available to members....someone complained so it was disabled for guests.

Paranoid much?
Not really. I haven't violated the TOS...nor have I seen anything that anyone else posted that could be considered a violation...perhaps you could enlighten everyone as to what your complaint was about.
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Re: County's Under World Being Mapped
« Reply #48 on: June 28, 2012, 09:53:19 PM »

Pricey Coils Of Seismic Testing Wire Stolen

Thieves who probably thought they were stealing copper for scrap instead took coiled seismic testing wire near Albain Rd. that is worth about $15,000 but is so specialized that it can’t be sold on the streets, sheriff’s deputies said.

A company that tests gas and oil seismic activity was in the area near Albain and S. Telegraph Rds. conducting some tests Tuesday. Employees told sheriff’s deputies they left the site for about an hour; when they returned, the coiled fiber optic cables were gone.

Both coils contained about 660 feet of cable, deputies said. The workers told deputies that the cable looks like copper but has a specific purpose and contains no precious metals.
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2012/jun/28/pricey-coils-seismic-testing-wire-stolen/?police-and-fire
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Re: County's Under World Being Mapped
« Reply #49 on: June 29, 2012, 07:17:23 AM »

Pricey Coils Of Seismic Testing Wire Stolen

Thieves who probably thought they were stealing copper for scrap instead took coiled seismic testing wire near Albain Rd. that is worth about $15,000 but is so specialized that it can’t be sold on the streets, sheriff’s deputies said.

A company that tests gas and oil seismic activity was in the area near Albain and S. Telegraph Rds. conducting some tests Tuesday. Employees told sheriff’s deputies they left the site for about an hour; when they returned, the coiled fiber optic cables were gone.

Both coils contained about 660 feet of cable, deputies said. The workers told deputies that the cable looks like copper but has a specific purpose and contains no precious metals.
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2012/jun/28/pricey-coils-seismic-testing-wire-stolen/?police-and-fire

I kind of wondered how they managed to keep their stuff from being stolen from their site...  It was stretched out about 4 miles when we drove by there Wednesday night (might have a little longer if they wouldn't have lost that other cable).  Plus there were several what looked like amplifiers maybe in red canvas bags...   all just sitting on the shoulder of the road...  about 8 guys working the stretch of 4 miles.  And they left it there all night on Wednesday because when we drove by yesterday they were actually conducting the tests.

They had two trucks that looked just about like the ones in the video.  They follow one right behind the other...  move ahead 50 feet, front truck, shaker down...   shake....   shaker up....  2nd truck shaker down...   shake...   shaker up...   move ahead 50 feet and repeat!  The two trucks must create a different vibration rate somehow.

I stopped right beside the truck while it was shaking... I could feel it sitting in the car through the suspension.  It wasn't violent and probably won't hurt those roads anymore than they already are. 

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Re: County's Under World Being Mapped
« Reply #50 on: June 29, 2012, 11:57:06 AM »

Pricey Coils Of Seismic Testing Wire Stolen

Thieves who probably thought they were stealing copper for scrap instead took coiled seismic testing wire near Albain Rd. that is worth about $15,000 but is so specialized that it can’t be sold on the streets, sheriff’s deputies said.

They were laying in the ditches and yards by my house for several days - I thought it was kind of odd they stretched them for miles and didn't worry about theft?
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Re: County's Under World Being Mapped
« Reply #51 on: June 30, 2012, 07:16:57 AM »

They were laying in the ditches and yards by my house for several days - I thought it was kind of odd they stretched them for miles and didn't worry about theft?

We drove down Yargerville again last night around 6:30...   they had 3 guys out picking up the cables...   all the flags are pulled except right where they had stacked their loops of cables and whatever those pieces of equipment in the red canvas bags are...   other than the orange paint on the road you can't even tell they've been there...

Has anyone heard or seen where they're going next?
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Re: County's Under World Being Mapped
« Reply #52 on: June 30, 2012, 08:52:12 AM »

We drove down Yargerville again last night around 6:30...   they had 3 guys out picking up the cables...   all the flags are pulled except right where they had stacked their loops of cables and whatever those pieces of equipment in the red canvas bags are...   other than the orange paint on the road you can't even tell they've been there...

Has anyone heard or seen where they're going next?
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Justice Dept. probes Chesapeake over possible collusion
« Reply #54 on: July 03, 2012, 08:52:24 AM »

(Reuters) - The U.S. Justice Department is probing Chesapeake Energy Corp and Encana Corp for possible collusion after a Reuters report showed that top executives of the two rivals plotted in 2010 to avoid bidding against each other in Michigan land deals, a source close to the probe said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/02/us-chesapeake-land-deals-probe-idUSBRE86117H20120702
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Re: County's Under World Being Mapped
« Reply #55 on: July 07, 2012, 05:32:58 PM »

While searching MT for the latest discussion on fracking...I discovered a prior post:

Study ties oil, gas production to Midwest quakes
NEW YORK (AP) - Oil and gas production may explain a sharp increase in small earthquakes in the nation's midsection, a new study from the U.S. Geological Survey suggests.

The rate has jumped six-fold from the late 20th century through last year, the team reports, and the changes are "almost certainly man-made."

Outside experts were split in their opinions about the report, which is not yet published but is due to be presented at a meeting later this month.

The study said a relatively mild increase starting in 2001 comes from increased quake activity in a methane production area along the state line between Colorado and New Mexico. The increase began about the time that methane production began there, so there's a "clear possibility" of a link, says lead author William Ellsworth of the USGS.

The increase over the nation's midsection has gotten steeper since 2009, due to more quakes in a variety of oil and gas production areas, including some in Arkansas and Oklahoma, the researchers say.

It's not clear how the earthquake rates might be related to oil and gas production, the study authors said. They note that others have linked earthquakes to injecting huge amounts of leftover wastewater deep into the earth.

There has been concern about potential earthquakes from a smaller-scale injection of fluids during a process known as hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, which is used to recover gas. But Ellsworth said Friday he is confident that fracking is not responsible for the earthquake trends his study found, based on prior studies.

The study covers a swath of the United States that lies roughly west of Ohio and east of Utah. It counted earthquakes of magnitude 3 and above.

Magnitude 3 quakes are mild, and may be felt by only a few people in the upper floors of buildings, or may cause parked cars to rock slightly. The biggest counted in the study was a magnitude-5.6 quake that hit Oklahoma last Nov. 5, damaging dozens of homes. Experts said it was too strong to be linked to oil and gas production.

The researchers reported that from 1970 to 2000, the region they studied averaged about 21 quakes a year. That rose to about 29 a year for 2001 through 2008, they wrote, and the three following years produced totals of 50, 87 and 134, respectively.

The study results make sense and are likely due to man-made stress in the ground, said Rowena Lohman, a Cornell University geophysicist.

"The key thing to remember is magnitude 3s are really small," Lohman said. "We've seen this sort of behavior in the western United States for a long time."

Usually, it's with geothermal energy, dams or prospecting. With magnitude 4 quakes, a person standing on top of them would at most feel like a sharp jolt, but mostly don't last long enough to be a problem for buildings, she said.

The idea is to understand how the man-made activity triggers quakes, she said. One possibility is that the injected fluids change the friction and stickiness of minerals on fault lines. Another concept is that they change the below-surface pressure because the fluid is trapped and builds, and then "sets off something that's about ready to go anyway," Lohman said.

But another expert was not convinced of a link to oil and gas operations.

Austin Holland, the Oklahoma state seismologist, said the new work presents an "interesting hypothesis" but that the increase in earthquake rates could simply be the result of natural processes.

Holland said clusters of quakes can occur naturally, and that scientists do not yet fully understand the natural cycles of seismic activity in the central United States. Comprehensive earthquake records for the region go back only a few decades, he said, while natural cycles stretch for tens of thousands of years. So too little is known to rule out natural processes for causing the increase, he said.

Fracking Causes Rumbles in California
California is one of the largest oil and gas producing states in the U.S. As the Golden State cashes in on the boom, the oil and gas industry is increasingly using fracking. Last year about a quarter of all the oil and gas wells drilled in California were fracked and with no regulation in place, companies are rushing to dig some more. California is prone to have droughts and earthquakes, leaving residents worried about how fracking could affect their water supply, and the potential for an earth shaking disaster.

Fracking Causes Rumbles in California


Fracking goes Hollywood
The practice of hydraulic fracturing is unregulated or under regulated in the United States. Critics of fracking believe that the technique poses high health risks for people living in the surrounding areas of a fracking site.According to US energy projections, natural gas will be used to produce 29 percent of electricity which is an increase of 9 percent from 2008. Now in Los Angeles, it seems the technique is gaining momentum. Jennifer Krill, executive director for Earthworks, joins us with her take on hydraulic fracturing.

Fracking goes Hollywood
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Re: County's Under World Being Mapped
« Reply #56 on: July 12, 2012, 01:20:07 PM »

Saw the cables stretched along Stewart Rd off Bluebush - so that's the area this week
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"The coincidence of elevated salinity in shallow groundwater... suggests that these areas could be at greater risk of contamination from shale gas development because of a preexisting network of cross-formational pathways that has enhanced hydraulic connectivity to deeper geological formations," the paper states.

The study is the second in recent months to find that the geology surrounding the Marcellus Shale could allow contaminants to move more freely than expected. A paper published by the journal Ground Water in April used modeling to predict that contaminants could reach the surface within 100 years – or fewer if the ground is fracked.

Last year, some of the same Duke researchers found that methane gas was far more likely to leak into water supplies in places adjacent to drilling.

Today's research swiftly drew criticism from both the oil and gas industry and a scientist on the National Academy of Science's peer review panel. They called the science flawed, in part because the researchers do not know how long it may have taken for the brine to leak. The National Academy of Sciences should not have published the article without an accompanying rebuttal, they said.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/09/marcellus-shale-study-drinking-water_n_1660226.html

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Chesapeake launches golden parachutes
« Reply #59 on: July 19, 2012, 09:48:32 AM »

Chesapeake board changes could trigger bonus windfall for many
http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/wire-news/exclusive-chesapeake-board-changes-could-trigger-bonus-windfall-for-many_731710.html

Chesapeake is one step ahead right now. Let's take the wind out of their golden parachutes!

Sean Lennon, Yoko Ono & Jimmy Fallon's Protest Song: "Don't Frack My Mother"
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